TaToH vs Yo | The Open Classic Semifinal #1

ladies and gents welcome to game one in a best of five semi-final and this is a semi-final in the open classic uh tournament sponsored by the vipers communities tournament sponsored by uh microsoft and surf shark and uh all of you with your lovely views and it is tattoo vs yo big big day for these guys uh tattoo especially i think has not made it deep into a big tournament semi in quite some time uh of course there were some some things that he benefited from right maybe he would have been scared to face the viper while the yo took care of him maybe he would have been scared to face someone like hera herra didn't end up making it into the tournament based on a sign up issue either way tattoo's here and tattoo has looked really strong getting past mbl and getting past others he has already run forward to steal resources from yo uh however i think you found his sheep wow that's crazy okay so yo's in the blue and uh yoast chinese and chinese is a civilization that starts with zero food however they start with additional villagers so if you're starting with additional villagers you're going to want to make sure that those villagers are constantly working if he runs out of food it would be a problem for him so he seems to have been fortunate to get that sheep back the tattoo has a civilization that is so well-rounded and is probably one of the fusivs that can give chinese problems i still do think that chinese are the superior civilization if they do not fall behind in dark age and early feudal and you can see now what tata is trying to do petso understands all the things that i've just said he knows how important it is for him to harass chinese early and in a 1v1 battle the eagle will always win against the scout in dark age because it has four attack and extra hp but um for now yo is trying to pull this villager i mean this is idle time if tattoo wants to play this game he can do it yo just has to accept those sheep are getting going away i think yo is going to push in deer i think he's going to end up being fine these deer are really close to his tc and i'm actually looking back at tattoo space yeah he went forward without even finding his sheep he was forward really early but i'm sure he'll find this i'm sure he'll find this and he could push in here as well if you would want to a map looks pretty good for tattoo tattoo will have to wall up a bit more than chinese chinese can play into stable and make those scouts which is what you see about 60 70 percent of the time a 23 24 pop scouts if he's had behind fell behind in dark age but i think everything looks good all right um arcane welcome to the stream he says yesterday i finished watching the nine hour game and it was great nice uh glad you enjoyed that this will be a nine hour day but we'll have plenty of games today if you guys don't mind it's pretty early so i'm just gonna sip my water and and ease into the day i think it's really bad to drink only coffee with a lot of creamer in it of course because i'm not a heathen and then just like talk for five hours so let me just i make that mistake sometimes and then my throat gets all raspy it actually is pretty raspy this morning but it's just because i haven't been awake too much yet so prediction here from juicy 45 is tattoo 3-2 hmm you know i'm actually going to say yo 3-2 i went with yo 3-2 against viper um just because it felt like his form was good and his draft was slightly better i think here i prefer his draft but my i would say tattoo three two based on whoever wins arabia here because i don't see yo losing his home maps i do not see him losing lands madness and nomad with the way he he drafted um and the way he plays those maps so think remember this right uh i end up looking like a genius or an idiot but genuinely i think whoever wins arabia wins the whole series but it goes the distance and tattoo comes over here tries to stop the last deer from being pushed in not the biggest deal for yo it's important to bring up you didn't hear me say it uh that yo has four on wood so he went four on one opening as opposed to three and so he's actually going to try and achieve minute arm opening with chinese which is very rare he used to go out and find tattoo right now he doesn't know what tattoo is up to i just love joe's dark age if tattoo would have come forward with an early drush it would be a little different right because he hasn't really walled much but tanto's not doing that and he's going to scout what tattoo's doing as well here i think he's going to come forward he's looking for tattoos base but if he sees the barracks he's about to see a flag on the barracks so he should know okay this guy's going for man at arm this is me i would never find that barracks i would never see the flag and i get surprised and okay good to know life is fair because the fact that he hasn't scouted his opponent until nine minutes should be punished a little bit and so he does not see it i think you can assume it if you haven't seen militia just yet but you never really know and his scout is a little weak so he wants to make sure he's careful with that tata's economy looks really good it's pretty common for mayans to follow this up with an archer range and here comes yo and here comes tattoo now tattoo did see the barracks but they're just passing and tattoo doesn't even okay now he hits that militia and now yo knows and yo has to decide on what he does here so he can pressure tattoo or he can go home to defend yeah this is a good play i don't know why there's a wolf here in the middle of the map but tattoo's just passing it and this is a good play from yo you never want to be chasing you want to be dictating the pace of the game and he's going to do that but he also knows that he needs to defend himself from tattoo it's hard to just check the wood line the woodline's walled berries are not walled and yo what that's so good though he did have a slight misstep that one villagers decide but that's not a big deal yo saves those villagers he can stay on berries he took the deer he's now gonna make some archers and he's gonna protect the gold as well so really good quick walling from him he always leaves it to the last second which always stresses me out like tattoo did it well ahead of time which is what i would do like look you see how how early he does it i saw yo do something like that yesterday as well but i guess when you have confidence in your abilities you just you just don't stress out too much whereas i'm sweating bullets another woodline's here for yo and yo it's gonna protect that as well again leaving it till the last second but you never really know if tats is going to stick at one spot or if he's going to reposition and tattoo reposition nicely whereas here yo just decides to stick around and archer will show up for both of them and there's a couple tricks you can do here if you realize one of your units is getting attacked you can try and send that unit to the north in this case like this so if joe looks away his archer chases that and runs right into your man at arms i don't think we're gonna see players on this level make that mistake but there's a couple tricks uh that you can try and do just to clear this up a little faster of course the faster you clear it up the better because then you can send archers forward to the enemy big thing here is neither player can wall up and they're kind of going into the same thing right now i think it's crucial that the chinese player continues to make archers because archers and feudal age are a really good option against any eagles and that's what you're seeing a lot of nowadays aztecs going for eagles and pikes mayans going for eagles and pikes against chinese despite some games you might have seen in this tournament or others it is actually the correct play to continue to make archers against eagles in most cases but you need to mix in knights as well to put it simply eagles castlage eagles are a really strong unit i don't want to say broken but they're pretty close to it it's they're so cheap to mass it's it's so nice to be able to send all your villagers on gold because then you can make monks as well and anyway you kind of need unit combos to deal with eagles because of their speed and everything and here tattoo tosses away his man at arms now yo can go forward and and yo is just trying to keep his alive for now and he's then going to end up losing these at the exact same time now yo had 55 seconds of tc idol time but that mainly stems back to most of dark age because you can't create villes right away with chinese but that amounts to about 30 seconds so i i guess in efficiency since then it hasn't been as good as he would want i see tatsu is just scouting around with his eagle and tatsu is going to wall up the right side he'll probably pull his army to the left side where he's also walling and uh yo if he's not walled which he's working on but if you're not walled you do have to worry about the enemy full walling and then sneaking an army if tattoo was walls right now he would send his army if you look at my cursor on the mini map he'd go like this and try and sneak into the back of the enemy base he could try that now but he also knows that yo might be coming forward so he needs to be careful with that yeah george i know there's no aztecs here i'm just making a comparison i said mayans and aztecs right like while mines and aztecs their bonuses are a bit different with eagles and aztecs are better at masking them in mid game blah blah there's lots of things i could break down about that you don't want to go into skirmishers here if you're chinese because it makes eagle switch so much more so much stronger for tattoo on the flip side you probably don't want to go heavy into skirmishes mayans because it makes the inevitable night switch stronger for chinese and actually that's a very common thing in general if you're ever wondering why you don't see pros as yo just gets bit axe wow i didn't realize that if you don't see pros going for trash units it's because switching into units to counter those trash units is always so strong okay so the reason yo probably didn't have bid x is because going man at arms with bid x is really tough with chinese with that up time that's why you don't see chinese frequently go for that type of a build and look at this yo is going into skirmish archer mix he's trying to flood the map with with fuel aged military and tattoo's already clicked up to the next age tattoo adding a second range tattoo's going to fall back to save his military um but he even used the market for that which is a little surprising honestly i don't feel like he needed to do this but that's something that tata's been known for for years i can't tell you how many times tattoo would use saracens in a tournament back when saracen markets weren't cheap okay tata this is almost a big mistake this still could be seen as a big mistake for him yo has so much more military right now or he's the stronger force anyways and tattoo has to be creative here okay but yeah anyways tattoo was using the saracen market for years and no one else was really picking saracens and then the devs were like hmm we don't like that and so they made saracen markets cheaper oh tattoo's sneaking out tattoo's going for a sneak and i think yo is auto scouting there no way yo was auto scouting yo didn't know look at this i mean maybe he knows maybe he spotted it maybe i'm wrong i think i might be wrong actually okay yeah i'm incorrect on that he's making skirms at home i think he's gonna be good but um it won't be good if it's against crossbows and he cannot break into tattoos base joe needs to come home with this army right now but to finish my thought uh the market was then buffed for saracens and now everyone seems to do that with saracens but tattoo is like the og saracen market guy he was doing it before it was cool it's kind of like viper with commercial viper was going was playing commerce before they were cool i was making khmer farms before they had that bonus you know um there's a lot of trend setters in our game and they all deserve a lot of credit i just don't seem to get mine enough sadly okay yo has shown over the last five or six years his ability to creatively defend how does he defend from this how does he survive from this normally you'd be a little upset to have a place have to place a tower here however him placing a tower here when tattoo has already sold some of his stone means that yes his tc will be delayed but it's not like tatsu can go three tcs anyways if he wants to but tattoo did the right thing he saw that he forced the tower he'll take that as a small victory he's now going to try and break in on this side and yo is going to have to creatively defend again as he deleted the other market foundation and he's going to go market stonewall stonewall and he will not be able to complete the market but it's going to be enough so he can get his upgrades and trap that army which you can already see is moving this way yep so his army's moving this way to trap this that market there is at 400 hp and the upgrades will come in for yo now yo stone positions there's stone here the other stone not seeing it it's out here so he's not going to be able to really get that stone back and tattoo if you've watched his play when it comes to archers especially in team games he's so good at sending on one force and distracting you and then bringing in the next one at the proper time and look at this tattoo hits the gold he kills two villagers and tattoo has ballistics so he could kill more than that yo is really struggling now and for tattoo he's already on the second tc he bought the stone back to be able to get the third tc and he's immediately adding a siege workshop at home so it looks to me as tata loses his army that he's comfortable with the damage he's done offensively and he wants to just protect his economy lead now now there's a big issue in terms of uh efficiency i think because he doesn't have the farm count to support production of villagers out of three tc's that is something that's gonna hurt him and you will see his tc idol time go up yo is going to add tcs as well so it's not like he's going to be too far off and he has the food for the villes but the siege workshop is perfect decision for tattoo because he knows that he needs something more than just his crossbows i like i like the small things players do here like tattoo with a few houses because he knows if the enemy shows up this is a vulnerable area of the palisades but this isn't as big a deal because the tc's there anyways he'll run away now and he's actually buying food to keep the tcs working yo still has this freaking auto scout back here um and tattoo is gonna try and make his way out to meet up with his main force and the scout goes down i think it'd be an incorrect move for tattoo to move out without at least one magnel um you could make arguments for just sitting at home but i think that's also it's not really a mistake but it's not going to give you a further lead if you just sit back now but what you don't want to do is move out when the enemy has skirms i guess tattoo is comfortable with sneaking that's what he's doing with this army and yo was it's probably trying to find that so he's going to send this army out and now he sees it but yeah you really got to get your magnels out here tattoo he'll have three in a second oh man that's unfortunate his units automatically attack the house i think if he would have come in here close to the gold he could have snagged another ville but he does not see well he does see the villager there but he's distracted close game but the chinese player is not really pushing the mayan player this is where mayans are preferred i think because they're able to switch into that eagles they're able to get to eagles comfortably later on but tattoo has two golds he's working with he has his main goals and he has his secondary gold so utilizing that is nice but he's going to need this gold and he's going to need this stone so this is a pressure point for yo tattoo did nothing with those crossbows he's looping to the corner yo there to track it but yo very much aware that he needs to push it's still so weird to me that tattoo has three magnets and he's not even sending them out right now might be worried that there's a knight out there maybe he just doesn't feel the need to take any unnecessary risks patro's now adding a barracks what okay so i think he wants to go eagles and castle age which is fine don't get me wrong but that'll take some time what's up kenny g whoa did you hear the wolves howling we had simultaneous howls there yep eagle warrior upgrade on the way armor on the way and wheelbarrow now for tattoo all right so magano shots are going to change a lot here if you was able to get good magnel trades he'll have solid crossbow numbers to be able to trade against eagles until they're massed tattoo can't even comfortably take this gold if there's any range out here so he really needs to clamp down on this yo with the five population lead he takes a hit we'll probably pull his villager over to repair there he is tattoos still not losing these crossbows i don't know how he does it i mean he wouldn't lose them anyways against four skirmishers but it's crazy to me that he still hasn't even been found 80 villagers for 76 but it's about to get real crazy here so yo saving his resources for imp yo will think about imperial age maybe defensive or even an offensive castle castle here would be really good long term as if mines don't have gold mayans really cannot do an awful lot 18 to 13 kd now yo has three magnels because tattoo has not been confident enough to try and get any hits outside of his walls it's so weird to me but he does have this working form and he could get huge reward for this and there's actually a world where joe gets distracted by that and sends all of his skirms and crossbows home and leaves his magonellas exposed and if he does that tattoo could pounce on them with eagles about great attention to detail there from yo this is as he gets hit at home so he'll lose a ville let's see what he does with his mask he's going to send his skirms home you see a forward stable now for you as he sees eagles but these eagles do have decent upgrades now okay this is a big moment here okay tattoo could break into yo's base we know that tatsu is going to clear up some of the magnets tattooed with some really good shots to start it all off he gets one he's going to get two he's going to get three magnets the crossbows are not in high enough number there's not enough knights out here either and these these um crossbowmen were not able to break through yo is gonna chase that down tattoo needs to get out of here and in the end i guess tata will be really happy that he's gonna be able to take this gold now um selling his wood a lot of wood so he can click up the imp and yo as going to click up to impear as well oh tattle brought eagles this way that was so good the fact that he expected the skirms and brought them here already is huge and now tatsu could break in if you wanted to i don't think it's quite enough to be able to do a ton of damage but tattoo's in the ideal position i was worried for tattoo when he started to get the upgrades for the eagles that he wouldn't be an imp but the fact that he was able to figure that out and do everything else has been insane here a little sloppy there with the eagles you don't want to toss them away like that they're expensive units but so is crossbows alive over here he's on stone and he does still need to clear this but he can take this gold comfortably pretty soon you've got to think he's going to take this gold comfortably as well all right so 31 military verse 10 tattoo has the eco lead the only bad thing for tattoos he'll be later to imp but that's by two seconds that's not a big deal yo can't take this gold comfortably he is gonna drop a castle here but the problem now becomes if minds have momentum there's not an awful lot you can do if you're chinese if you try and go champion here expecting eagles there's crossbowmen out there and here comes yoda take out the siege so tattoo would just make arvales then if you try and go into uh something that would count to arvolus like skirm the eagles are out so the mayan players in a position to kind of switch into anything that they want here not to mention that i think going eagles is going to work against champions anyways because champions are so slow chinese do not have supplies so they don't have the discounted champions like other civs do and normally what you see is you see a cavalier light cav and skirmisher and arbolest tattoo clicks elite eagle now tattoo in the driver's seat to start off this series and looking at the draft joe has two home maps and he has really good sieves and i would expect him to win on those home maps so if you're expecting yo to win this is my logic anyways on those home maps tattoo would need to have a good result on arabia to be able to win the semi-final of course i'm assuming an awful lot just seeing home maps and seeing civs doesn't do much um that's not how the game is played and elite eagle kicks in way faster than armor and cavalier does for the knights i think tatsu is going to win the game right here guys yo is going to have to pull back yo needs to wait for numbers to be able to engage against these eagles he might not get those numbers he'll lose villagers tattoo's going to drop a castle here and tattoo can then trip down yo and tattoo starts off the game or the day and the game and the series with a win really well played from tattoo the big thing i come back to is yo he wasn't able to pressure tattoo and that was actually because of tattoos extraordinary pressure in early castle age forcing the tower bringing an army here and then hitting the gold that's what decided it because then tattoo was able to sit back and boom i also think the success rate for chinese going man-at-arm opening in tournaments is very low because it's very difficult to afford your eco upgrades and manage arms with chinese now we saw that for yo he didn't have his wood upgrade and i think that probably played a role in why he was also a bit later to castle age um either way there it was a very good game i think you needed to take that all-in castle i think you need to go forward like you do or like he did add the stables and get knights out there try and keep tattoo off those golds and tattoo with more food more wood more gold collected way more of those resources and yo had the stone probably for defensive castles but couldn't really place them gg all right so score now is one zero and the next game is going to be uh on one of yo's home maps so yo has nomad and lands madness maps that are very different from each other let me just change the score here and one second i've got a mute for about 10 seconds sorry i didn't want to i didn't want to blow my nose into the mic um okay so tatsu gets the first win nomad uh the sieves that come to mind for me are typically malians persians or spanish and i'll show you what civilizations they have available tattoo um tattoo has malians available i think that says nomad pick yo has spanish i think that's his nomad pick lance madness is a pure lands map where you tend to see a lot of scouts um and so i don't really know what tattoo's sieve is he could actually go aztecs i've seen it before aztecs are good in a lot of situations but we have to keep in mind there's other maps available and there's other maps that you'll have to play so tattoo one and yo lost i think we're going to see something like lands madness next it'll be magyars against do you go aztecs you just did really well with mayans i think you could consider going aztecs and i think tattoo did it in the past in this tournament on land madness yeah tattoos question marks though come on these maps i think malians can compete with spanish but yo is really good with spanish and nomad that's why i would give you the lead there and lance madness matt garcia is the number one civ pick if you ask me yeah our base the prop that's the real problem on lance madness if you try and go aztecs and you can't get gold you're in trouble and it takes a lot longer to make eagle scouts than it does to make regular scouts there's a world where it works if you get to spearman eagle but also you could just fall behind really early and die when tattoo has arena and gold rush as other maps long term i think he might save aztecs for those i think and the next one will be nomad so we won't get to answer our questions on what tattoo does in lands madness yet um i i think it would be wise to save aztecs for one of his home maps and you would assume if you pick them if you pick a map um you're probably gonna draft for it earlier than you would the others maps so i think those early picks are probably just gonna be for tata's home maps yeah preeminent i'm thinking the same i think gold rush aztecs makes a whole lot of sense especially since yo's gold rush pick is probably khmer and then probably tootin's for arena but it will be mali in spanish i'll bet my life on it and yep mali in spanish for the next game we will be into game number two remember i said based on the draft that yo looked like he was in a sweet spot for his home maps and let's see if he proves me right or wrong here um nomad is a crazy map and there's a lot of factors and i'll break it down for you here right now all right so in the blue we have yo and i actually should update the score here and yo is playing spanish now they build faster as a civilization bonus so if you place your town centers at the exact same time the spanish player is going to have their town center up about a ville faster so that's a good little lead for them and so in the north is yo he's going to want gold and stone available he can see it so i think he's fine there same with tato a present-day nomad there's very it's very rare for players not to be able to find the resources they want so while i do think by personally not a fan of having nomad in a 1v1 tournament i do think it's good at least that they made it a fair version where there's not like rng isn't influencing things too heavily here you have a doc for yo and there's going to be a doc for tattoo now the bonus with malians is that you can get a because your wood uh cost on buildings is discounted you can afford to make a town center a dock and a fishing ship and a house that's crazy so meanwhile for yo while yo is a little faster to that first villager what yo has to do is he has to chop wood before he gets that fishing ship so persians are similar because persians they start with an additional 50 food and wood so persians with that can also afford to do what malians do and any early eco bonus on nomad is so important it's like you know like it's like starting with an extra villager with mayans or starting with an extra three villagers with chinese on on lands maps um it makes a difference and it pays off for you and also what's good about malians is they're extremely flexible they have good monks they've good crossbows fast university upgrades and then also out of their stable they can make knights that are very strong and they can also make camels spanish are kind of the opposite of flexible their blacksmith upgrades don't cost gold which is an underrated bonus used to be one of my favorites uh but because they don't have an archer line you're almost always expecting knights and or conquistadors from them and on nomads since there's so much stone and the potential for people to feudalize rush is a little bit less than other maps typically you just tend to see the spanish player think about getting to stone and dropping a castle now the the thing about 1v1 nomad is it oftentimes becomes a race for water so in order to fund the camels and to fund the conquistadors you need to have fish and so that can be exciting and it also can lead to really awkward situations where one person makes it to castle alongside the other but loses their fish and they can't afford to do anything so i think while you probably want to focus on lands if you're both players you need to make sure you have the water focus and that's my main concern for yo i know tattoo is going to have that water focus he's so good with fires and demos and it's cheap for him to make the docks too with malians so i think yo is either going to have to hide his fish and hope for the best there or he'll actually have to remain competitive on water you cannot lose the six or seven or eight fishing ships you're gonna have out later and build a castle and still be okay with your situation now what players will do is they will scout with sheep or in this case cows so we're seeing cow scouting and cows actually have more vision than sheep so yo is just scouting around and if you lose a cow you know the enemy's there because there's no other way you would lose the cow and it's really important thing all nomad you'll even see look at this the cow the scouting found the dock in the south so scouting shoreline is important you can see tata is doing that as well knowing where those dock positions are gives you an idea on what strategy you need to go for credit to uh silent for for saying scouting uh i like to steal my viewers jokes okay loom now for tattoo now tata's going to need a second building here he has this dock already he's going to need a lumber camper a mill so yeah i don't think he's going to be able to go up to futile age quite as fast as he wants we should see a similar thing for yo here sometimes you'll see people just skip the lumber camp i think you want to make the lumber camp so you can get the wood upgrade though and wow yo is walling okay so i think this is a fast castle for you and let me see if tattoos callous found the dock and they're so loud the cows do not like to be clicked nope he doesn't see anything here uh mods could we just delete the bracket command please you're going to want duke canada you're going to want to use the tournament command to get all that info uh we'll just delete the bracket command thank you i think it's some old bracket and people don't uh people don't realize that it's on the toc command no it's not that okay here i'll help you out you can google the open classic if you don't want to use commands in chat or you can just use the command that's in the title of the stream toc and it'll take you to what you want to see why is tattoo over here does he know he lost the cow does he think there's a there's a ville over here from the dock he would be correct in that he could also be going over here to try and make a dock on this side okay he sees the ville he tried to wall her in and yo is like nope not today and yos villager walks away but here is the second doc now for tattoo which is actually pretty funny because joe is trying to wall there so tatsu's approach is precisely what i had said and he even scouted with the fishing ship guys so he now knows that yo has all this fish here and we'll see how this pays off but i think that tattoo is going to easily win water but have a very very long feudal age and then yo is going to get to castle age and yo is going to get to conks i just don't know how many he'll be able to afford because if you lose your fish it's not going to be an easy time for you as yo is bringing in a boar from the middle of the map he does have loom by the way wait does he yes he does okay that's a bug that we experience sometimes i don't know why we're experiencing that bug with capture age but um i'll have to tell them about it he's actually halfway to feudal right now it's just not showing that but yeah i mean that food is going to be necessary if he loses all his fishing ships currently he has seven fishing ships and you have to expect them all to go down could sometimes try and hide some in the corners for later in the game but it's probably better to just get as much food as possible with them for now and expect them to go down because tattoo's gonna have the water now what i think tata should do is fish if you still see the opponents in dark age your first three to six fire galleys are going to do a lot so then fish behind it because you see his food count isn't that great so add a fish and ship here at a fishing ship here um also stonewalling is good you kind of expect as he brings in another boar what in the world i mean it makes sense it's just crazy how many he's bringing in uh but yeah i think the big thing is is make sure you get stonewalls down if the conquistadors arrive there's the market there's the blacksmith for yo he's got he actually has enough food to be okay with losing the fish because there's a hundred and fifty food per cow and there's seven cows there on top of the boar meat he is feasting right now the tattoo's got some cows as well okay something i want to ask you guys though this cow version this is different from others in toc correct because we saw a nomad game yesterday and there were not this many cows in fact i remember only sheep so there must be different generations sometimes it's cows and sometimes it's cheap similar to like standard de versions but that actually makes a difference because on nomad there's going to be a lot more food out there then right unless there's somehow more sheep in the sheep version to to balance that out which i somehow doubt so yeah that's a big deal and and this is a big deal too tattoo he's over here taking out the fishing ships and you'll see with his fishing ships now he's on seven he's gonna be at eight nine probably he's gonna be up to castle h in no time as well yeah also scouting with cows is huge exactly yeah i'm not necessarily saying it's too many but it changes how you can play things it changes strategies and you cannot prepare for cal version versus sheep version like tattoo might be seeing the cows right now and thinking well that's not good for me because i'm killing the guy's fish he's still gonna have food personally though i really i'm a fan of the fact there's extra food other than fish because the reason i don't like 1v1 nomad is because whoever wins water tends to have a really big lead so this is cool for me i like that you're gonna see yo drop his castle here shortly has pretty good idea of where tattoo's at and i'm wondering maybe if he deletes the walls and drops it as part of his wall okay oh he's getting water upgrades interesting so he saved some fishing ships where are his docks at though okay he's got a dock here oh this is going to be quite good actually he could take out four of tattoos fishing ships also has the dock over here wow yo is so good tessa's not expecting this tattoo figured okay he's given up on water he's gonna go for conchs and then i think yo might even castle drop him oh geez tatsu thought the house walling and stone along would be enough but if there's a castle here it doesn't have to be close even a castle right here would eventually shoot down the walls so in his initial dock he's got fires here he's got fires and he's he's chasing down tattoos fish he's swinging some fishing ships back home we'll see if they make it and then he's dropping a castle which tattoo cannot see right now interesting game i mean still tattoos brought in so much more food but i think yo is going to be fine for now let's see if joe can land a demo here that would be important i think tattoo's going to spread out yeah yeah yeah spread out your fire ship so a demo doesn't hurt as much yo is going for an approach i see tattoo use all the time and instead of trying to fight their navy you just try and take out their fish it hasn't worked too well as tattoo has been able to save these this is the main area where tatum has efficient fishing right now and yo is looping around to that i think tesla will be able to get the war galley upgrade so i think he'll be good in defending his fish it's just will he be able to defend from konks first thing tatsu did in castle was research town watch for vision he now knows the castle's there and he now will know the siege workshop's coming up so tatsu's gonna have to go full monk defense here which is a great play from aliens they do get redemption so you can convert enemy siege also they get the gold mining upgrade free so you're bringing in gold a lot faster which is important here yo going for fishing ships i think he got two [Music] oh wow wow okay i think that was three in total maybe it was just two i'm not sure but overall kd eight to five and tattoo controlling water though he doesn't have too much navy as you see him get gill nets and wow this is cool okay so tattoo's gonna go for a tower next to his town center pato is the master of guard tower defense has been for years so he puts a lot of trust in those towers he even won an entire tournament with towers four or five years ago thank you to koreans and arrows early airless aeroslits for those memories i actually would like to make a video where i highlight all the obnoxious things that have happened with with age of empires tournaments uh and just civilization balances over the years because i think a lot of people miss that they type a one in chat if you've never heard of the tournament enter the sahara which was a 1v1 tournament back in 2016. yeah imagine most of you don't remember that uh it was basically using the early balance patch which would allow the hd expansion sieves on voobly when nobody wanted to play them like they they were not played the expansion tips were not played for a long time so yeah anyways arrow slits was added and towers were really strong and in the grand final of the tournament the final game between tattoo and i think it was melkor was literally just fast imp into keep i'm not kidding it was just towers you couldn't make siege against them it was just repairing towers and putting villagers inside it was the most ridiculous thing ever at tattoo kind of started that trend so i would like to make a video where it's like hey this happened it was ridiculous and it shows you guys but also maybe links where you guys could watch those things hey so the thing about a thing about guard tower is it does help against the magnet push but i think yo recognized what was happening here pretty early and he also recognized how much you need to invest to get those upgrades so he just made one manganello and he's calling it a day here he's still making conks but he's not really focusing on much else except adding his town center so i don't think that it's the biggest deal for yo that tattoos gone for guard tower because he can just reposition and force more awkward decisions from tattoo speaking of awkward i think where tattoo is on this map is awkward he's kind of pushed back into this corner and while he has the fish and he has the eco lead i think he's going to need more map control than that joe's awkward situation is he's running out of cows so he's going to need farm soon and that's probably why he's getting horse collar he's also still on stone to maybe drop another castle and i think a castle here would be good tattoo has this goal than this stone and that's it he doesn't have any other resources he can access that easily and while the fishing is strong it will eventually get worse for him yo also is out here being stubborn with that fire ship which i think he's lost all of his docks i think it's just left over so good work from him but tattoo reacts to that and here we go joe is through with the konks okay guard tower with ballistics soon to be bod canero and also there's monks out there monks have nine range and konks have six that's it did a good job defending this he knew that the konks could even run around here so he's stonewalled i don't think yo needs to be hugely worried because that's that's big investment if you see someone has all those upgrades that's university guard tower ballistics blacksmith upgrades just to keep your army out so i think tattoo has invested more into defending from the konks than yo really did to make the konks but tattoo has a lot of fishing ships he has 12 fishing ships yep here come the conquistadors now they could actually get the fishing ship so tattoo needs to be careful about that yo sees them i don't think they'll be able to get any boom nope okay there's not many areas for for yoda really hit with these conchs and tattoo in a good position to get conversions and goes in for one ends up bailing on it and look like yo doesn't care he doesn't even seem to care he takes out the deer he takes out the monk he does not seem to be bothered by the fact that tattoo has done all this stuff i think he's gonna drop another castle soon i think he should drop it here because if he can take tattoo off of gold he might not have scouting on all this but he should have a pretty strong idea if he brings the magnel over here that tattoo is stuck so i would say if you know the gold's there drop the castle there but maybe if you want to take this towards imp what you end up doing is you just drop a castle more more safely if you're worried that someone will go imperial age and trap your castle down you never want to place it forward a little weird to me that he would collect all that stone and not have an immediate use for it but i think we'll see the castle eventually and i also do think we're going to see a faster imperial age for tattoo because he has not been spending resources on conchs that cost food and gold yeah okay so you know what yo just did did you catch that when that tower attacks something of yours you see something around it right you see like a two or three tile radius around it so he sees the villagers on gold there and right after his konks got attacked by the tower he dropped his castle i don't know if that was a detail that he needed to justify dropping the castle but he's now dropping the castle so he can pressure that gold and immediately research fletching so he would have the range now tattoos counter to this is drop your own castle on this hill go imperial age and treb that down so it's not like tattoos position is really all that bad because of this tattoo is is owning because of the fish right now this is crazy foodie co in fact i'd like to check tattoo has collected uh it's not too bad i looked at the wood and freaked out for a second uh he's collected about 600 more food but he also has spent a whole lot less food but he's doing well with everything except for stone right now compared to yo um someone said seadram i always i don't think malians get cdram right i never go rams with malians it's always bombard cannons and cavalier and trips i don't think they even get cdram i think they only get capped ram but tattoos basically gotta open up with trebs here and then make a transition in the military it's not like he's in a spot where he can do a lot of other things too so i think we might see some monk upgrades as you see a monk go down and yo it's just gonna dive in oh this is so good from yo this is so good he knows tattoo doesn't have a lot back here actually wait a second is it good i'm actually not too sure on that he can kill this villager but he can't do much else except delay the farms i guess that's just making the lead skirmishers because he wants an answer to the konks i really don't love that because mali and elite skirms are not the greatest but it is he is in the correct line of thinking to worry about the conquistadors you're never in an ideal situation when the enemy is making congestive doors so i guess i should just remember that here though with enough skirms he already has ballistics he already has bodkin should be enough and he'll deal with that he'll be an imp and he's got incredible economy and yo is to have forward castles that could both be tripped down yep konks go down i think the conquistadors killed a few monks maybe a few villagers but tattoo has just been taking control the water and this is what i mean about 1v1 nomad there's always going to be someone who wins water and if the person wins what the who wins water takes advantage of it they just control the rest of the game it's absolutely insane what tats has been able to do even docking up here and now he's an imp because of it as i see barracks going down so what tata will want to do is get barracks out and with barracks go for champion i guess expecting i'm not sure why he's making barracks actually is he gonna go pikes it's a little weird right because it's common for spanish to follow this up with a cavalier switch against the skirm so maybe he wants to go pikeman but malians don't get albert here so instead you think maybe camel but he doesn't have gold right now so that could be it pikeman and skirm to open push and get your gold and then when you have gold and i i see a tc on the left side now it's a little risky but i think he'll be okay you know then maybe switch into the camels oh wow okay so i'm not sure when this got denied but it seems somewhat recently and yo must have really good vision on the map then yeah he's got an outpost over here so all the tc was going up and denied that can't do anything to stop this tc can't do anything to stop tatsu from taking this gold now tatsu could easily trap this down yo needs to make sure he's prepping houses he's very close to the pop cap he needs to make sure he has houses and he needs to make sure he's in imp which he's on the way to now yeah and he's just gonna make a castle on the back of his base expecting to lose the forward one but what else are you gonna do here yo he's just 55 on food he needs to be going cavalier i think going cavalier habit here is the way because the enemy's probably gonna go camel against you and then if you have pointy boys you'll be good i think he could get temporarily housed uh he's making some houses he's making the castle it'll be close you know just now adding his stables just now getting some upgrades this is going to be good for tattoo lots of momentum to work with could maybe drop a castle here to deny the stone from yo making some gebedos i made one and yeah he's just got pikeman here to protect the traps so pikeman was a little awkward for me as joe gets housed um hiking was a little awkward to see but it does make sense considering the situation for tattoo i think you're gonna start to see stables come down now because having just pikeman is not too good against the the cavalier switch he's killing villagers he's got a massive score lead now granted your score does boost much higher if you have water control but this economy is so efficient for him because he won the water and while spanish and conquistadors and everything is strong tatsu said well that's great congratulations on that but i took the water and there he gets a conquistador and now he's going to pressure all this eco for you so yozika was looking good but he doesn't have army to deal with this it's 50 army for tattoo it's two for yo what did i say about how good spanish was well it's not good if you don't have water i guess yo tried in this game he tried to at least take tattoos fishing ships out but tattoo's just been adding them that's always 22 fishing ships that's that's the meta on 1v1 nomad and i honestly don't even care about your sieve if you just if you win water you're going to have such a massive lead and there's normally only one victor there tc down for yo he has to abandon all these farms tc down for yo has to abandon the gold as well he needs a big engagement the only way tata loses this now is if his units are not strong enough because his units are fairly weak joe's even going for light cap he's not even gonna go for gold units so i think he'll save for hussar and maybe try and go oh hand cannons well honestly hust our skirmisher would be really good against what tattoos making so even just straight trash would be okay um you probably don't want to just do that though because then tattoo could go champions isn't it insane though how tattoo has so much red on the map look at that score look at the amount of fishing ships he has he'll probably start adding fish traps now he goes in with pikeman here to take out the treb which won't work but you can just toss away pikemen and skirmishers like it's nothing you don't need to worry about that so he'll go in for a raid gone are the times where tattoo doesn't have gold he's not really spending it too much right now but it's good to get a bank up before a tech switch and let's see if you can get a good engagement he does have final armor on the leg cav he does have a few hand cannons but we mentioned it when tattoo had won water we we knew how important that would be and then it was will you be able to do damage with konks and while tattoo invested an awful lot into into the defense of it the konks didn't do anything and and the fact that yo's eco was set back that far just to get to conquistadors was never worth it for him pikeman after a bombard cannon skirmishers after a bombard cannon tattoo is as joe's repairing that which is hilarious tattoo just doesn't seem to care about these units and it's actually hilarious the bomber cannon is staying up and the villagers are repairing the other way well they were anyways and i guess he ran out of gold he couldn't repair it anymore so that bummer cannon goes down 175 pop for tattoo still 140 for yo finally yo's military counts looking decent he does have two relics back here he does have a castle here standing he does have a castle here standing there's still gold to take there's still there's still stone to take for him tattoos food eco is pretty safe long term from hussar raids uh if he gets fish traps out but also he does have so many fishing ships here that are not on fish traps so his food eco could be a little weaker than we think now tattoo uh kind of slowed down that push as here he comes and he really wants to pressure that castle yo is okay i guess he spotted some units back here he's gonna kill that off and tattoo now getting supplies and he's gonna go into champs which is a great play in this situation because he sees a lot of skirms and he sees a lot of light calf if you can use this area to expand his farming eco it's going to be crucial for his chances there's not a lot of space here so if he needs to do that he also needs to keep this castle up what he really needs is his own bomber cannon and he has it i actually didn't see it and he's able to get that treb and he's gonna get the next treb as well hold the phone people it looks like tattoo is going to dominate this one still feel like his position is strong but he hasn't been making many gold units look at his resources he bought himself so much time with the skirmishers so much time with the pikeman but at the end of the day all the units he's fighting with are kind of weak compared to what other sips can offer you do not get full blacksmith upgrades on the pikeman you do not get held here you do not get full upgrades on the skirmishers spanish get every single blacksmith upgrade in fact their tech tree with the exception of the archer line is actually insanely strong and they don't have to spend gold in their blacksmith upgrades and so tattoos at risk now of maybe losing his whole force if you look at the value that tells you everything you need to know it's a lot more expensive to get to yo's army and with that there's a whole lot more hp in yo's army tattoo needs to click two-handed swordsman he's only on longswordsman right now he hasn't been able to get those upgrades because the barracks were built forward oh no i thought yo was dead i thought tattoo had this i i mean i don't know what to say right now beyond the fact that tata's got to get buildings down you see his upgrades coming in now he's getting farimba which i'm not sure that was meant to be clicked here because marimba gives you extra attack on your cav and he doesn't have any cav maybe he meant to get tiggly uh the other unique tech i don't know really like to see yo get hussart but he's lacking the food eco is tattoo's selling food right now funnily enough and that fight's going to be okay for yo as he drops the castle here with these bomber cannons behind tattoo could lose all of his skirms this is really bad for tattoo that's what's falling apart this is not a fight he should be taking maybe he feels he needs to take it so he can protect the middle of this area but always yo defends and takes out the bumper cannon here things are not looking good for the spaniard anymore 160 pot for yo 150 for tattoo and he's just too late with the tech switch he was doing well he had the time to tech switch and he was just too late to it guys and yo has somehow been able to hold on yo yoast farming eco will be at around 50 pretty soon he'll drop another castle he now has the military control he's had the relic control so there's some more out there to collect hal yo was able to somehow hold this position and this position is beyond me i think in some ways based on the very high standards we have for tattoo i i think that tattoo should have pushed one of those sides remember that moment where he was underneath the castle his ting ting ting with his bike man where was the siege you know but maybe he was overconfident i mean that's a real possibility he had a 3 000 score lead and so when that happens you're thinking well i've got this and i don't have to really to be as uh in as much of a rush to get the tech switch in tattoo losing a lot of trebs that does hurt and tattoo is about to complete champion malian champions have extra pierce armor so they're quite good against skirmishers or any archer fire but this is where i'd like to see yo make cavalier or at least get the hustler upgrade first i think even hustar is going to be fairly good against those champs and with a few hand cannons behind the pierce armor bonus does not apply to hand cannons and can still have a bonus against infantry seems like every time tattoo tries to get barracks up yo just wants to castle it and deny it champions are holding their own here at least for now and yo comes in here with a raiding attempt attack is doing the same that's being tracked castle dropped there on the barracks and the gold and the stone which is really important as we've been stating as the relic goes down let's see if joe makes a monk out of his monastery yup look monk's already on the way he wants to steal that relic that's so crazy i love that so he's out to steal that relic he's protecting this side i'm not seeing an easy way for tattoo the pressure and also look at these fishing ships see how many of them are not on fish traps i thought with the wood count that he would fish trap and then he would he would get barracks up and go champions a little earlier but it's so hard to get that balance it's so easy for me to pay attention to how how efficient the fish is but i guess you could say of tattoos 57 food eco the 27 fishing ships most of them are not working all that well right now i think you could go cavalier and you could win here but there's always the risk that the enemy makes camel so maybe spending your gold on hand cannons going hussar and maybe going just full trash combined with that like skirmishers and habitats is the way to go from here if you're yo he does have more land control if we combine the water tattoos got more control but a lot of that doesn't matter anymore and yo seems to be very content with just walking forward and dropping castles these spanish villagers build so quickly yo has full blacksmith upgrades is every blacksmith upgrade you would ask you would want and tattoo is trying to go for his own light calf he doesn't have the final armor yet the castle will go up a castle that has ballistics a castle that has bracer a castle that tattoo doesn't really have the siege to contest there's one treb i don't think that's enough what a turnaround if tattoo loses this series i think he's gonna look back at this game as the game where everything went wrong i don't see tattoo not winning another game i think tatch is going to be able to win another game so you don't have to freak out too much of your tattoo or if you're a tattoo fan but he had such a lead in this game i thought for sure he was going to close it out i think full credit to mr yo for holding on but also you've got to think about the possibilities for tattoo that he just didn't capitalize on he had a 50 population lead at one point and he was in imperial age significantly faster and somehow yo wins that game you know how um like i don't know what sport you guys watch or if you guys watch sports at all and i probably shouldn't be making sports comparisons too much in video game casting but you know when teams are really close and there's always that that one game where a team grinds it out one of those games that goes into overtime one of those games that shouldn't have been winnable and it's won very frequently those are the games that decide a series and even though it's 1-1 i just want you to remember that uh because that's what comes to my mind here yo giving himself a chance by tying it up here i don't think he could have ever come back if tattoo went up two nil and uh tattoo he's gonna have to try and forget that one very very quickly what a comeback that was look at this so at this point this is what i mean tattoo should be closing this game out he's got more than double the military and he is trebuchets joe didn't have anything to stop four trebuchets with pikeman and skirmisher for the first 10 or 15 minutes and i think what tattoo thought was well i'm fine i don't really need to to try and like overextend with trebs he kind of trickle trebbed it he made one or two instead of committing and then when he was thinking of the champion tech switch he didn't have the proper timing on it because yo just came out of nowhere with units spiked up joe had to relocate so much of his eco whoops um he returned to map yeah like yo lost two forward town centers all of us farming he had to relocate his eco to different areas and he somehow pulled that off now i always find malians to be problematic with tech switching and i actually have a youtube video where tattoo played malians against doubt had the lead and he failed in the tech switch when he went to go in the champion so that seems to be a theme there i don't know how many of you guys watched that it was like mallean flexibility versus mayan strength um it's a theme for tattoo but he gets leads with them he just is unable to close it out maybe it's the case of a sieve having too many options you don't know if you want to go cavalier or if you want to go for camel or if you want to go for champion maybe it's a case of maybe in that game it was the score he probably thought he was further ahead than he was yeah that was that was extraordinary there's no other words for that uh let me get to some of these names here uh who are probably lurking right now maybe some of them are in chat but thank you bear go very much for 32 he says love me 1790 appreciate you juicy j thank you sam ladd uh jorian sacred oracle breakfast taco oof i didn't have a real breakfast this morning because i had to cast so i i wish i could eat you in a in a food way yeah anyways uh morty and ulta and tears for beers and lionheart thank you guys adanjon and nancy crowe and laser ed and lara you're all wonderful just forget what i just said on stream thank you uh what's up project belgium nice to see you again project belgium showing up for all the casts belgium i don't know if you saw the draft or heard about the home maps but i would be interested in your quick twitch chat expert advice and insight okay um so the next game is going to be on one of tato's home maps tattoo has arena and gold rush and this is what the draft looks like i'm curious on your thoughts on the rest of the series and who you favor based on the sieves it is worth mentioning that the other remaining home map would be yos and that's land madness so yo wins with spanish tattoo loses with malians we have either gold rush or uh arena did i just i said these words and i can't remember yeah i don't know which tattoo we'll go for next but tootins are really good on arena i think that if we see gold rush yo will go for something like khmer anyways the way i see it is tattoo has the best arena civilization or one of the best in tooton's and you could also argue the same for aztecs malay are tricky though yo would probably go for malay there and malay always have a chance i think this series might be decided on who wins that gold rush game which can be really tricky yeah burgundians are also really good on arena i think for yo we know malay is going to be on arena um we know mag garros is going to be a lands madness i i don't think incas are going to be seen at all actually and i think khmer is going to be gold rush okay people are saying they prefer tattoo civilizations for every single one except lance madness yes possibly yeah um i think for gold rush he would probably have the superior save if he goes for aztecs there i don't know i don't think vikings would actually be utilized in the remaining games which is weird that he picked it here but maybe he just wanted to to kind of take that away from you being scared of it or something that's what i'm thinking project belgium is that if you go cameron gold rush you might have some struggles on gold rush which tattoo could choose to go for next i would always go and it is gold rush i would always go for the map that i had available that would give me the best chances to win the next game and considering the sieves the answer is gold rush and that's exactly what tata will do blue coffee man but what if you okay so if you know tata's going to go aztecs and you think khmer are worse you try incas i know yo has a lot of belief in his incas but i don't know if you can really try the problem with incas ever since okay i'm having this conversation again but the problem with incas is they are a worse mayans or a worse aztecs okay they are just they're just slightly worse i'm not saying incas are are not a good civ and in many ways incas are more flexible but they don't have an identity right now so competitively ever since they removed the feudal age villager armor and attack the sieve is just a worse incas and aztecs so if you try and pick them as a counterpick it does not work well so an identity was removed from the sieve and replaced with nothing so i kind of i love incas i actually love incas more than mines and aztecs so please don't consider me being an inca hater i just want the sieve to have an identity i wanted to have something that's all but they do have a lot of counters they have the slinger which is a very strong unit so i mean maybe you're thinking expecting eagles go slinger but i think monk eagle siege from aztecs just kills everything that incas can do cameo or elite habiteers it's worth identity yeah okay so habadir henry i love the kamayok but i also love the teutonic knight i also love the cataphract in competitive 1v1s unique units rarely play a role and that's that's part of the issue right because it takes a lot of time to text switch so we'll see we're talking an awful lot about it let's see what yo ends up doing what the what the okay it's gold rush and tattoo's gone tootins and yo has gone for incas what the crap man we we were all wrong i thought that we would see aztecs here but tattoo maybe wanted to surprise us all what in the world okay so now suddenly this is a completely different conversation all right so i just had to catch up to lifetime we're about 60 seconds behind we're in now yo is in the blue he had a tremendous comeback in the previous game that was amazing and tattoo's got to be kicking himself but still uh joe is gone for his famous inca pic we just discussed before this game that he used to pick incas largely because of the tower and villager bonus and the villager bonus was removed and feudal so now we're going to see more of what the incatectory can offer in standard play but not a sieve i really would have expected to see here on gold rush there have been a lot of gold rush games over the last year or two in tournaments uh and oh as yo take some real damage to that town center he was trying to lame that's not gonna work now that's a big deal but um but yeah i mean we've seen a lot of khmer and joe had that drafted so maybe tattoo was expecting khmer and thought tootins would do well against that who knows now i think tootins are very underrated civilization right now the only real concern for tutans is if they're up against cav archery civilizations incas can struggle big time in this matchup two and knights get extra melee armor which helps a lot against pikeman and eagle and also tootin's resist conversion which helps a lot against the monks this is like this is some big brain play from tattoo i don't know if he was expecting the surprise inca pic but i think that tootins are better against incas than any other civilization he had in the draft and i think that tootins are better against incas than they would be against khmer if you would have gone with that expected pick so basically what you're going to have to go for here i think is archers if you're yo but knight magnel is extremely strong against that so i i don't know what combination you can really go for if you're yo you're gonna obviously have to gain a lead in some way and hold it and maybe that stems back to whatever happens with the middle um i like what they did with this version of gold rush it's similar to actually honestly carzini made the maps so i'd have to ask him i don't think christine is here listening to me right now but it wouldn't surprise me if they if this is basically the hidden cup version um we spread out the gold in the middle for that and we wanted areas where players could tc the golds it looks the exact same i think the only difference is i asked that we would be only wolves instead of lions so what it means is you can actu you can both have access to the gold at the same time instead of the standard de gold rush where that's not the case wait actually didn't they make a change to standard de gold rush as well recently where they spread out the gold in the middle i think they did which is a really good change if they did but i recall seeing uh a gold rush game i i uh have not played one and i think i noticed that so yeah it's a good change it makes the map what it's about it still gives that focus on the middle but it also doesn't make it quite as snowbally yeah woodlines are always the tricky thing here because tattoo is able to wall off quite nicely because of his woodlines uh for yo it looks like he has to wall a little bit more actually a whole lot more to get full walled but it's not the end of the world because both players are going to have golds but this goal is so unfair compared to tattoos golds right just based on the woodline positioning so gold rush is always a tricky one anyways i expect fast castle from here fast castle into probably knights for tattoo and probably archers for you t90 do you think there could be a compromise inca blacksmith buff where only offensive or defensive upgrades work on villagers and feudal age well the big thing is the defense dander the big thing is the defense defense is what made it strong not necessarily the offense and i think the problem is so you have to start with why the change was made right why was the change made was it because incas were dominating with that in tournaments because the villager rush was was impossible to stop at a high level in tournaments no statistically that's not true they have won and they have lost okay is it because of a very obvious reason people complained people like oh my god i don't like it i don't like it probably yes okay probably yes so if that's the reason if if people didn't like playing against it is a reason i would like to provide the devs a list of other things people don't like playing against you see my problem they made a choice which made a civ worse competitively didn't replace it with a proper identity and that this the reasoning for it is not used in other instances right so that's that's my issue i just wanted consistency but um anyways back to your point i think if you make those villagers have attack only in feudal the the attack is not what made it strong so we're not going to see a big change in how incas are played and if you give them armor it's going to be right back where it was by the way i'm not saying that it wasn't strong and needed to buff a nerf in some way um i'm just saying i wanted it replaced with something so i think if they want to go a different direction with incas they need to change their team bonus because their team bonus currently is like farm spilled faster i think they could tweak the team bonus and give their eco boost and if they give their eco a boost we'll actually get to see all the inca options and um and yeah we'll we'll go from there but yeah again i i unfortunately with this this game being slow it's given me time to to rant a little bit you guys might want me to break down things i've already kind of discussed here but i just want consistency and if there's a reason for one change i want it to apply to other changes that's all it's not an easy job being a dev sometimes it's a thankless job but uh it's gotten a whole lot better over the years market blacksmith for tattoo what this tells me he'll open up with no military which is very uncommon typically what you do as you see yo going for a barracks and an archery range than a blacksmith typically what you do is a barracks a blacksmith and a stable is his map so good that he can boom is that his plan i okay to an economy is insanely strong and i think it would be i mean he would dominate if he can somehow get away with it but at the same time you're up against yo the master of pressure and map control do you really want to just sit back and say hey yo try and kill me i think that could be seen as a mistake for tattoo now if you're gonna play this boom approach it's probably into defense of siege and if it's into defensive siege that's the right call even before seeing it it's the right call i think you only assume archers anyways um i'd like to see tattoo maybe get a tc up in a position that protects a woodline but also protects the gold or stone so i think he's gonna tc here because it protects his wood and his gold and then if he goes for three which again is super greedy and very very rare for gold rush maybe another one here works uh and if he wants access to stone he could go over here but i don't love that position too much because it doesn't protect this area the reason he didn't make his market blacksmith against the walls is because this would be a surprise to you yo would you always assuming something is going to come forward from tattoo in terms of militaries he's probably expecting knights so the reasoning for building it behind is basically to hide that if you see this just like a caster would assume wow this is going to be different yo would do the same wow dude tattoos tc positions are so good though wow these are these are some good tc positions well thought out not easy to do in the moment right he has a house wall here so it's very difficult for crossbows to come in this way if he completes this tc it's hard for his wood line to be ranged though i'd say this area could maybe slightly be ranged he'll have to move him over here this town center protects this area there's no way yo chops the tree or anything to get through here so yo has invested a whole lot more than tattoo he's invested into two additional buildings and he's making the archers and so naturally he can only afford one town center but it's worth remembering tattoo is giving up map control for this he's not going to have the gold in the middle so he needs to eventually do that so i think what the play is tata will three tc boom into a crazy night rush um when he gets to about 50 or so bills actually usually is 55 to 65. with tutans maybe a little earlier because your farms are cheap you then make the barracks then make the stable and then you push out with knights he even got heavy plow wow so he got the wood and the farm upgrade with three town centers man tootin economy is insane we thought that tattoo would play tootin's on arena but he just turned gold rush into arena and here we are as a scout not a whole lot else and yo sees this and yo says well i know what to do when i see palisade walls and my enemy does nothing i'm gonna break through this is amazing he's probably feeling so good about his situation like what is tattoo doing why is he not making military then he probably clicks the scout and sees that the scout doesn't have upgrades and he's like what the knights had upgrades scout would have upgrades i haven't seen any knights yet what is this boardville for yo he's gonna try and get a siege workshop up and tattoo i think is scouting for that possibility okay yo did see the tc so he's now coming over here but that could be seen as wasted time the big thing here though is tattoo cannot take stone so he cannot defend himself with a castle and he cannot rush out to the middle to secure it so as that farm is getting somehow the farm got hit but the villager didn't that's weird anyways that as this pressure is here tata's going to eventually need to clear it and he's going to add a magnel which i think would be a good move just to pull behind his walls here now any other stabilization would be prone to getting monk rushed as well but since students resist conversion you can't really go for that against students sometimes you do anyways just for healing purposes but it's pretty rare this is a good game here guys great strategy from tattoo but it's also extremely risky i'm curious when he makes the barracks and okay here we go what did i say like 55 bills barracks stable he'll be at that 55 65 range that's when you have the farming and gold eco to really feel comfortable and to be clear it's not that the players look for that i i never look for that it's not oh i'm at 55. it's time to do this so don't stress yourself out if you're trying to learn the game it's more of a feel thing so you just you understand your economy based on feel and you say oh i can make stuff now let's do it and tattoo with a really poor move to lose that magno his siege workshop is over here so it takes a while for that thing to roll over to reinforce and guys you cannot repair a town center if you do not have one stone in the bank you do not use stone or spend stone to repair a tc but you need to have one stone in the bank to repair town centers with wood now what's crazy is it i actually think it's perfect balance wise it might seem stupid but i actually think it's good balance wise because what it does is it nerfs what tatsu is doing it nerfs straight 3tc booming because you then have to buy stone just to repair so that's what he's done now he's adding the stables so even though it doesn't make a whole lot of sense on paper i actually think it's a really good thing that they keep that in the game because we age of empires is already a boom fest and we should promote a little bit more pressure so yeah so i mean he could have collected one stone ahead of time to think about this but i mean he is the market he just bought it and it's fine but yeah the the thing about this is as this eagle is underneath the tc you're gonna have to take map control here tattoo so you only can work with this gold for so long he needs map control he needs the middle and joe's even going to run out here to tc the middle he's on three tc's he'll be on four then but will you be able to hold against the amount of siege and knights attack is going to send out i absolutely love the fact that yo has outposts out here is a really good idea of if siege is going to come out i love the fact that he has good crossbow numbers because his game sense will probably tell him it's not just going to be c's for tattoo overall this is a perfect game of age of empires honestly in terms of strategy and and adapting the strategy it's a perfect game of age so far this tattoo is over here uh trying to get maybe a tc on the gold oh now this is interesting because he's gonna need wood to repair his tc maybe sometimes if i try and add a tc when i'm repairing one i run out of wood to repair but i'm freaking out for nothing it doesn't look like yo really wants to pressure the tc oh yeah and maybe that's why maybe he feels like he needs to pay attention elsewhere and if he starts to attack the tc tattoo with the defenders advantage is just going to get some quick snipes there hey armor for tattoo who's taking his good old time here 80 villagers this town center is going to go up if only yo knew about that it's hard to say that that's a mistake ryo because even if he had one crossbow scouting there tata would just clear it with a knight and finish the tc that's just a really good play for tattoo it has a lot of crossbowmen and i as i think yo is just scratching his head like what more can i do against this it was the perfect strategy for tattoo and i don't think tattoo ever went into this thinking this is how you play it he just saw the map and adapted to it nicely and he's gonna go all in for map control just playing this so good adding a fourth stable now going to stone so he can castle the middle every little thing that you would want to do in tattoos position he's doing except for taking out that magnet well the crossbow was more important so he's going to take that out i think a siege workshop in the middle would make a lot of sense here uh that would also block any castle foundations this is not the numbers that tata will need to engage but now yo is going to see he's got chain barting armor so this is going to be tough because you try and go pikemen putins have extra melee armor against that if you try and go monks tootins have conversion resistance tunes is quite possibly the most op civ that people do not consider op more often than not and it purely comes down to their weakness against cav archers and their weakness on more open maps but if you play them this way this is just perfect not to mention that incas don't have any real bonuses which we talked about before like they they they have options but they're not mayans they're not aztecs they're just not able to compete at the highest level quite like twons are yeah they're it's just like sometimes you say oh god twotins suck and then other times you're like oh tootins are amazing it's it's pretty awkward it's a tough one to balance but it does give them an identity right which i think is really important you don't want sieves to be good in all situations you want them to be weak in some and strong in others i'm really happy man as a as a tootin fan for 25 years i'm very happy to see tootin's in this spot mistake here from tattoo though i think he's forgotten about this you probably heard the attack signal from the other knights and didn't realize that was a mistake for him as you see tattoo on the way to imp and here it doesn't really look like it's possible for tattoo to get through as yo is going to try and castle the middle now tattoo is probably going to send all of his knights back for that magnel and if he does that he won't have the knights in the middle the crossbows are heading towards those nights now joe will be fine with losing that mag and ellen l and yo clicks up to imp as well so yo castles the mid he can also clear out some nights here because tattoos knights are really slow oh even the castle if it completes is going to be able to take out those knights and now tattoo's got all the siege but what is he going to do with it i think he's got to pressure this yo uh his siege workshop being forward and going down now is going to be a real problem actually yo could pretty soon not have a tc on gold okay sneaky magnel from yo no way no way okay well at least he gets one can you imagine if he got both there tattoo focusing on a lot of different things right now and he's probably gonna castle as well the castle's probably going to come up over here yep that's good you want to make sure your treb is right underneath your castle good decision from yo to add the siege workshop you need your own magnets you cannot lose this tc you can but it's gonna make matters a whole lot worse for you and i would say you're behind so tattoo sees it and says that's cute all right maybe the siege workshop should have been on the other side oh no guys here's the problem cavalier and armor takes about twice as long to research as all the archer upgrades but tattoo is in the imperial age a full minute ahead of time that's problem number one problem number two and there's more but i'm gonna stop at two is that arboles cannot take out trebuchets cavalier they can dive and take trebuchets so if this becomes a matter of treb warring underneath castles only one player can take out the trips and only one player is going to win that trevor tattoo went from zero military and i remember a tattoo fan in chat was like why is tattoo doing nothing he was booming man tattoo went from zero military to 36 military and while there are other things to discuss possibly this is just exceptional play from him you read the map well remember he surprised us with the tootin pick we thought he'd go for twos on arena and for now i just say the only thing he's he should be a little bit careful about taking engagements he wants to take out the ranges but it's going to be all about the trebs it's going to be all about the middle the lack of speed on these things is a problem isn't it to run into an engagement it takes a lot longer and to run away from an engagement takes a lot longer so you've really got to make sure you're going to win the fight and paladins on the way well that helps yeah this the weird thing about tutans is you don't even get that scared if enemy tries to go arb and help against you because they commit all their upgrades to arbalest and then when they're tech switching into help even if they have the howl upgrade you normally hit them with paladin before they have all their their ups and their numbers and you have all that melee armor i still maintain by the way that tootin's i'm okay with tootin's getting plus one melee armor and castle i don't think they should get additional melee armor and imp the sieve's already nuts as it is with that um but either way for now they get all that extra melee armor so not gonna be easy this tattoo is trying to catch out yo's reinforcements he's doing that but he also might not complete this castle but yo is going to lose his and tattoo was real patient there with his trebuchets i don't think yo knew that castle was there paladin's about 50 seconds away so as i stated in dark age i just don't see what more yo could have done if you played tootin's perfectly and gold rush perfectly against incas i think you kind of get to this position it's it's crazy how saying something in dark age could lead to this you know and and have that actually be the case and i could be wrong on that but with paladin in now tattoo is not going to shy away from any engagements and while they're slow they're going to come to the hill here these paladins and this is game over look at the hp difference i'm even including 13 villagers in there paladin is paladin tunes are tunes we now have supplies i don't know why tattoo feels the need to click supplies i don't think he's gonna need champions in this game would be nice if all of his paladins attacked but uh doesn't matter supplies maybe for the memes tattoo wins and tattoo dominates with an excellent excellent strategy you know a strat is good when i cannot even think of something that could have been done against it can you guys think of something that could have been done there is there anything more yo could have done i'm i would like your ideas if you say no that's fine and we can move on if you say yes i'd like to explain why you're wrong surrender earlier hey castle drop okay castle drop is going to lead to you being even further behind in economy because you won't have three town centers pumping out bills and tattoo will just go knights and he'll go rams and push you back faster helps master hal wouldn't work there's 32 paladins here man that's 5 000 hp and he has the eco to make more andy students he could just make two tonic nights which which wreck helvedeers helveteers do one damage versus teutonic knights dive yeah maybe commit and take a big risk in the mid game like take a big risk and i'm i'm just not sure where though that's the problem tattoo defended all the little the little chokes that could have been a problem it's tough man i i don't think he'll made many mistakes there really i just think tattoo masterclassed him and with a sieve you never expected to see there which is the cool thing the tattoo one went away from making it to the final people and here's a look at the eco um tattoo dominated with the food in the gold that three tc boom here paid off okay there is one thing that comes to mind what if yo scouted a little bit better if you didn't see a barracks he could maybe go three tc boom himself and not push and then if you don't push maybe you have a better chance like maybe you open with some other unit um it's really really hard to say anyways uh here's a quick look at everything if you didn't see it already and uh if you're curious how fast they are boom it's funny every single game yo seems to be faster than the opponent in dark age i remember that in the viper series as well none of this really matters it seems pretty close but i know people like to see the effect of apm well tattoo in the driver's seat and tattoo in the driver's seat with some really good civilizations remaining as well guys remember the way that i broke this down at the start of the day was i said whoever wins arabia wins the the um wins the series and the reason i said that was because i don't see you losing on his home maps with his civilizations he was able to win on nomad after losing arabia and now his final home map is on land's madness so if you're rooting for tattoo get excited but also brace yourself because it will be magyars for yo a civilization that i think is just straight up number one on that map but aztecs i'm telling you aztecs are a tricky civilization and i think tattoo did that previously in the tournament so let's just quickly cross off incas we'll cross off um uh tootons and so with the next game being lance madness the expectation is that yogo's magyars for a lot of scouts i don't okay so you have to use process of elimination the final game if tattoo were to lose this next one would be arena so aztecs and burgundians are probably the two things that make sense maybe vikings if you want to get real crazy um but i think not on lands madness i think vikings is not one of the best gifts you can go for if you want to go for the scout approach you can go burgundians but maybe we see something different like spears and eagles i just don't think burgundians plays towards the strengths that of the civilization and i don't think it plays towards the strength of the map sorry that's what i meant to say playing as burgundian doesn't play towards the strength of the burgundians that's i got that wrong but um yeah we'll find out soon thanks to everyone who's here thanks to everyone who's watching and rooting and supporting and following and subbing thank you bourbon proof and colts um i'm i'm having a good time i'm also now awake it took one hour and 45 minutes of casting to not sound raspy and like i just rolled out of bed i hope and i'm correct on the prediction tattoo goes aztecs here and i didn't watch the set but i think that tattoo went aztecs against mbl yesterday on this map and we have seen aztecs and mayans dominate in tournaments for well since ever so i'm catching up to live time we're now caught up we have yo in the blue he needs to win this if he wants a chance at moving on to the finals today um and here's tattoo going aztecs and i'll talk about his approach in a second but first let's just talk about what is on the cards for today this is going to be a long day of games the next semi-final is after this that is between jordan and leary after that is a best of three third place match and then after that is the best of seven final um i am i'm gonna be casting most of the day solo today and i've been enjoying it i hope the fact that i've been able to really hammer home and break down strats especially that previous game for you guys is clicking in some way um which i feel i'm able to do a little bit more sometimes when i'm on my own but i will be casting the final with viper and the final with viper is the best of seven we don't know who's gonna be there yet looking forward to that and i also told my buddy old pal if he wants to hop in for any of these sets today to give me a call so we'll see now let's start with how magyars tend to perform magyars they tend to win and dominate but the reason for that is because of their very cheap scouts and the free forging upgrade and on this map you cannot wall on the rocky terrain meaning that full walling your base in a circle to keep scouts out is just not a possibility so there are gonna be scouts out for you and that is the strongest early feudal rush in the game her tattoo he's got a sieve that can counter magyars but i think it comes down to how well yo counter attacks and i'll bring it back to that in a couple minutes when it starts to happen but the key here for tattoo as he miss clicks and he's going to get housed here um you have to make sure you defend from the scouts and then you have to be patient and wait till you get a few barracks out and he's going for a barracks now what this is not what i meant just fyi drushing uh which is a dark age militia rush as he somehow misclicks again how is that villager not oh there's no food left [Laughter] dumb game what a bug no that's just tattoo making mistake um but no uh shoot what was it going to say what was it going to say what was it going to say oh yeah drushing is very rare for this map because by the time the militia arrived the enemy is already on the way to feudal so i'm surprised to see that but i could see a world where if magyars just want to make knights aztecs could have pikemen they could have eagles and they could have monks and that is a combination that very few sieves if any can stop in castle age it's just surviving to that and this is a map that's very frequently full feudal too so it's it's like does that not just invite yo to try and end this in feudal age someone saying a full wall is possible for you i mean in theory you could wall like this and then you could wall if you want to call that a full wall possibility go ahead conron but you could also fool off your tattoo watch this way this way this way this way i mean it's just not that's a lot of wallowing man that's a lot of walling i think if you had like john slow playing in this right now he'd probably make it happen but let's see what your scouting looks like he did see the barracks he spotted the barracks that's why he's pre-walling how did he scout that man uh-oh oh he's trying to get a second lumber camp up though that's good for tattoo i don't think tatsu is gonna stay in dark age that would be too ballsy what he's trying to do is he's trying to delay before he backs this up with his own feudal age and that is something he has accomplished now so i think yo if he wants a second lumber camp he has to place it here but since he was planning his build order out to have oh my god the madman's doing it again the madman is doing it again he did this against viper yesterday he's gonna go archer opening you can see what this pressure does though like this villager's idle this fluid is outside the walls tattoo's checking on that right now the drush has really done something for him here and multiple times joe has sent villagers over to a resource and he hasn't been able to actually collect that resource there's no way tattoo kills that bill he should give up on it a little too aggressive there as you see at barracks now for yo but this is yo opening up with something that is not really in his wheelhouse with his sieve the good news is and we saw this when when yo beat viper yesterday on this map is you open archers they're going to go skirms sometimes and then you can just go into scouts afterwards against the skirm so it's not the end of the world um khmer can be good here i just don't think kimura is good as magyar's and yo had both of them so uh maybe that's why yo picked it it doesn't seem like yo has plans for for khmer yo has both mag yard and malay so maybe if he meant to pick maggard maybe he meant to pick magyard for uh for arena hey man estacio goes to stone oh wait watch i can tell you what this is you ready he's gonna make a lumber camp with this i don't think that's gonna confuse you either because yo should understand what that means and if you're confused just wait a second okay come on tattoo do it for the people the people want this lumber camp oh okay fine he's just gonna drop it off so what i wanted him to do is if you make an eco building that is not necessarily associated with that resource it still drops off the res so if he collected 50 stone with five bills and dropped the lumber camp before dropping it off he would still get the stone it's like if you collect 10 gold and make a farm you get the gold but yeah he just i guess he didn't want to get a second lumber camp and what he really wanted to do was plan on getting towers up which is why he collected some extra stone and that's interesting to me because he spotted the range so he knew that this was going to be coming and he just wants to get towers down who's got a quick fix to a hangover what's up city boy i've been told that my stream is the perfect fix for that so welcome to your hangover cure i'd also recommend really greasy pizza and um depending on how hungover you are a beer [Laughter] i this is not professional health advice i'm sorry okay well you've got uh archers moving around this certainly has bought tattoo time that he would want at home he is making eagles he is making spears no i could see this working out for tattoo more and more look at how much time he's been able to buy himself with this yoziko is pretty good and yo will have archers with fletching so that's he has more potential to do damage right now than tattoo does but patto hasn't completely got destroyed yet i still think that could come though with scouts and archers we'll have to see tattoos just producing out of one barracks that's it the rest is just eco so as he's actually on these berries as well he's really going for a greedy defensive style and he's even adding a market wait a second is he gonna try to go castle age i think he will i guess if he feels like he's threatened on these berries he's just gonna pull off and go to water gold if he feels like he's threatened on these berries the same and he's gonna try and take this towards castle where he will go for all in eagles and that's exactly where aztecs shine it's just everything about this has been really really i don't want to say well thought out yet because we'll see how it works uh but it's been thought about it's been thought out and just so creatively done um he's gonna add another oh that's the blacksmith excuse me he's gonna add the blacksmith now it almost feels like tattoo has practiced this so many times so good but now it's important that he reacts as the pressure finally shows up and he is gonna lose the ville okay now here's the issue castle is exciting at all but he's gonna be pressured in multiple areas and he just tossed away another villager here's so that village is going to go down nice dodging there from yo there's two villes down now as tc is not creating any more villas because he's going to risk riskily to castle age and there's gonna be a whole lot more coming in from yo i like the house walling from yo too by the way because yo is gonna send scouts in here yo scouts and his archers can easily take out tattoos eagles so just can he also can he pick the time to take army and can he pick the time to take phil's it's real risky with the towers around with the tc around there's going to be a point where he will dive but there's also going to be a point where tattoo gets seven base attack for these eagle scouts and that's gonna be in 90 seconds when he hits castle h so i think the proper approach to this is forever futile but it almost might be too late to add the second and third stable right now so we're seeing yo happy with the damage he's done stopping the production of scouts to try and get up to the next age and i think that even though tata took lost villagers and his barracks is delayed now i think that this is going to be good for tattoo this brings me back to the archer opening it's a little slow which i don't think you want on this type of a map know if this is the proper move for you you have to at this point you've delayed scout production for so long you have to just try and go castle age by the way to the person who said yo could full wall he's working on it here if he could somehow stonewall this not only would i look like an idiot for saying my viewer rewards is exaggerating but well that's the main thing but it would actually be so clutch to get stone walls down i just don't think he's gonna have the time which was my original point by the way so i might also look like a genius so thank you i feel so smart where is he going with these villes or deer i guess tattoo will never look there here come the eagles yo is trying to keep his archers alive which makes sense eagle warrior on the way we have very creative awkward walls now for mr yo and yo zico isn't looking too hot in terms of villagers working idle here idle here idol here woodline if there's a hole he's dead and tattoo moves on to the finals there's no hole okay eagle catches out the archers there but it was just one of them and now eagles run underneath joe's tc which he was a little late to reacting to but tatsu is coming in to dive for these archers those archers are going to end up being pretty important here so i think yo he's probably gonna run all the way to that tower and hop inside of it but look how strong eagles are you needed to kill tattoo before he got here this is before it gets worse too but also one two three three went down i might have missed one or two more and now he's got well he's gonna kill a ville that's good but he's only got four eagles which isn't the best actually he'll get more ville kills i don't know why yo is out here with these villagers tata will go for the blocks nice job there he'll get two two additional bill kills because of the blocking doink and there's more eagles around and tattoos going all in here guys he's going triple barracks can tattle make it to the final there's been a lot of s-tier tournaments over the past two years but i don't think tattoo has made it to a single s-tier tournament final in the last two this would be huge for him got past mbl we'd have to get past yo who got past his teammate viper tattoo is is playing out of his mind right now and this is aztecs on lanes madness magurus is supposed to be the number one sieve hmm it seems like there's a theme every single time there's a tournament aztecs and mayans they're pretty darn good man pretty darn good this is where you'd want to be if you're tattooed because the enemy starts making nights and and there's not many archers out so you could go pikemen or you could just add monks and i say why not both you could also just make eagles because if you have 20 eagles and they only have three nights you're gonna win every single fight you take right here you go eagles are diving tattoo realizes this is the situation he knows he's got the lead and so he just decides to dive under here but it is up against tc and power fire and it's maggot knights under there i guess you've got to be a little cautious about it it is worth mentioning that tattoo doesn't have the greatest eco upgrades but also with aztecs that's not as big of a concern aztec eco is pretty stupid strong and there's the monastery at home double monastery if you go yolo and it doesn't work just go yolo some more yo needs a counter attack you'll need some type of counter attack and the way to do that is wall and send units forward so here it comes the walls were already up eventually a villager might overtop a tree so i'm keeping an eye on that but i can't okay no that's got 60 wood back there that tree the gold seems fine for now will the counter attack do enough let's see tatsu's reaction i think tattoo spotted it already or at least senses it because he's gonna run over here i think to this gold now we'll have two monks coming out of the monasteries he has to protect his woodline which i think he'll do the eagles run away here which is good and man we've got such a good game right now no there's a hole that hurts tattoo that hurts big time and also if he doesn't get the conversions oof yo is going to make it out of here because he hears the wall of lows and suddenly yo says no no no screw you aztecs i want a game five also this is so cheeky and so sneaky from yo he's somehow getting away with that yo we'll know the monks are on the move but i think it's worth it to maybe get a villager here if you see it he disagrees as he's running around and guys he quickly waltz here i don't know if there was actually an overchat but just in case he reacted there as well because he needs to protect his eco at the same time there's so much going on tata was moved off of this gold and tats is gonna get two conversions on the full hp knights nice he gets the conversions that helps an awful lot but this hurts more villagers moved away from gold and a couple more eagles going down but the eagles are also diving underneath the ostc yo doesn't have the knights at home to deal with this it is a lot easier to mask eagles than monks than it is to mass knights because all you need is a bunch of villagers on gold for eagles and monks but wasn't worth it for tattoo it's really hard for me to tell the idol time on yoast tc has been really high and the idle time on the farmers is certainly going to make an impact but he did have a lot more eagles here before this is exactly what you expect when you order land madness at your local restaurant um i would like to see a lands madness with a dessert of game five personally but land madness never disappoints all right their views are good on yelp and wherever else google you know it's going to be a treat when there's land madnesses you actually see light cav for you which is a good move against monks you would think tata would have a lot more monks but he was moved off of gold so many times it took him a bit and he also can't just have monks he needs to have eagles too also he doesn't have a second town center neither does joe but these are important things to focus on and here come the knights they're coming back home but england fans it's coming home much like the way you didn't think it would uh the nights are here to i'm sorry i'm sorry the nights are here and bad things are going to happen so it's the wrong type of time of coming home um and why do i why do i make jokes i'm seriously like even if 90 of you laugh and think it's funny and like fair play you 10 are gonna get upset oh my god oh my god yo is such a god holy crap man that was so sick how he looped in with the like cav there to take four monks while he was hitting this gold and hitting this gold the triple threat and tattoo might not be able to do much after this now similar to before the eagles are here and yos knights are out of position what a game this is but villagers should die underneath that tower pretty soon and while the eagles are underneath the tc there are gonna be more nights for yo and it might be just enough for him to be able to clear this as the villagers are getting slaughtered at tattoos base now there's still monks out there for tattoo yo still only has one tc that's the same for tattoo but man how much happened there was insane and yo was in the perfect spot in three instances also again we'll trade against the eagles underneath his tc now the crazy thing is as he engages against the monk and kills it and loses another knight two nights actually um the crazy thing is tata's military count is still in a solid spot and conversions can always swing it and i think if you're in a messy game it's always better to have aztek eco because you're just plopping villagers on gold and you don't need farms tattoo probably needs more than five farms but the fact that he's alive with only five farms and you always had 15 to 20 and it's even is it just shows you the difference what you need for the economies now yo it's going to tc this and that's a gold that he's already been taking so that's not going to last too long but i still like the town center and then the reason that's telling to me is because this school's about to run out for him and i think he'll have to run away from his wallet area tattoo now adding a town center as well and this is more than manageable for him because he's going to run forward and he's got four monks together now aztec monks get five extra hp for every monk tech that comes in he already had sanctity which actually gives you additional hp in the first place he's gonna have 55 hp monks five of them with the eagles yo has nine nights the conversions just changed the game in this type of a situation just so much more difficult to be the night player i actually hate it so much but you love to you love it when you're in tattoos position believe me okay one villager goes down yo has to be very careful and now his farms have to be abandoned as he loops back home with some of his light cav he actually converts a knight back jimmy come home and now jimmy jimmy just he just he just offs himself he doesn't want to be on their team here you've got a raid now with knights and light cap and all yo is doing with the light cap is waiting for the monks he knows the monks are going to come out he's going to pull the knights away unfortunate there to still lose his knight but really good job i just don't think he can engage here oh and he's not paying attention oh but the monk rng was not with tattoo in that situation yo is desperate to keep those villagers alive he needs maybe five or six light cab before taking this fight he did kill additional villagers back here he's got the ville lead and he's going to go in now with the light cav he hasn't taken out any monks yet pato blocking nicely and the light cavs have to pull back in theory yo should still be fine economically but the problem is he still has idols because of the pressure and now tattoo uses the light cap that he converted to kill the monk that's funny i think how do you like it as we see a tower and yo doesn't have a lot of food income he doesn't have as much gold income as he would want he's going to send villagers over here it says they're on gold but they're going to have the travel to get there he's also on stone so he has to leave with that he's also still raiding here which will get cleared after good value and there's the overall kd if this overall kd doesn't tell you that aztecs are freaking busted i don't know what will yo is a two to one kd he has had horse collar like i mean granted yo could benefit from that kd and end up winning but holy cow man it was going to tc the middle what a game this has been so someone just mentioned that tattoo needs pikes the problem is his eco is not set up for pikes he's trying to get his eco set up for pikes after going three tc's but the pikeman upgrade alone he could not afford so pikeman is not realistic for him right now not with the way this is played out and uh like if you go really gold heavy it's always eagle monk if you go partially gold heavy it's usually eagle pike but tattoo is just not doing damage with his forward force right now and that's a concern for him there's not he's not taking yo off of any crucial resources as joe's going to swoop in again with leica tattoo sees it yo even has his monks going for conversions but yeah there's just too many monks and the eagles are there so yo just does the wise thing and loops away yo has the town centers but it hasn't been producing out of them as you can see here tattoo is actually doing a better job at producing out of his tc's over the last couple minutes because he's not spending as much food so you can boom you can make eagles you can make monks the correct move for tattoo is to actually fall back and defend now i act i think that tattoo can stabilize this if he defends from these raids because his economy is looking pretty good granted i'd like to see a few more eco upgrades and there are a bunch of knights in his base right now and he could easily get cut caught out here yo knows he was here yo knows that the monks are slow so this army is not going to move away too quickly tattoo aiming for a fourth town center you can see on the minimap and tattoo going this direction that seems like an area where tata is going to get pounced on if you were to come home right now and then use his reinforcements against this this could be a nightmare for yo or tattoo excuse me alright knights are very confused they've switched sides many times in this game the like have come in again and again tattoo shuts the door no yo these are my monks the value of the monks insane but again we're getting close tattoo can't get back home now he probably thought about it he cannot get back home as you now see the food eco you now see the pikeman yo is going to take this fight which i don't think well no he was controlling that and he's not going to mind that just because it's before pikeman but still end up losing most of his units as we'll focus back over here now 65 bills versus 69 bills it's a tournament semi finally the monks will get taken care of and if the monks get taken care of the eagles will get taken care of yo just needs to do a slightly better job of getting his villagers back to work i think and and then i think he's gonna be okay with 32 farms he will clear this tattoo will be on primarily pikeman so you've weathered the monks you've weathered the eagles but you've done it with knights and light cav and now tattoo has the eco for pikeman what do you do now yo well you could maybe consider scorpions i love how joe's been healing his nights the big thing you have over pikeman is running away from them and here he goes so if you can outmaneuver them as he goes in with like again dude yo i'm not kidding when i say yo and tattoo are playing some of their best stage of empires right now i know that when this tournament concludes people are going to look and say like well uh heroic wasn't able to make it in because of the sign up thing maybe maybe dogal's issue with his internet dropping out you know there's going to be some conversations there always are after events people nitpick but my god are these guys playing high level joe's ability to use the light cav has been insane and kato's ability to to be creative with his strategy which has always been his strong suit has been nuts as well yo is very heavy on stone so he's probably hoping for defensive castles against the pike bush and the thing about going pike bush is you need to force fights by having siege you need them to fight you and if the siege isn't there there's nothing forcing yo to engage against this so he's just doing running circles right now and it's it's again perfect age of empires it makes me so happy people are like t90 how do you keep coming back how do you keep watching how do you stay motivated well the reason i i want to get the big boy tournaments in the reason i want to cast these tournaments set arrests here with all this prize pool is because the players take it so seriously and it's just beautiful to watch i love the castle for yo there it does feel like we're leaning closer and closer towards potential game five the tattoo's got a lot of pikes but it's just defensive now and you can see what the pikemen are doing nothing they're just they're looking for the the job they're they're like wheel weight orders as it says in strongholds i wonder if you text switch into cav archers do you the long swordsman what do you do to follow this up if you're yo if anything else as 27 on stone means that he will not be an imperial age anytime soon did you see that boom instant monk dead as he hits the wood line with the light cav it be fair to say that this game is the most perfect game of age of empires in 2021 i'm already thinking about the youtube title there's been a lot of good games but in terms of how the sieve should be played seriously it's been insane maybe maybe the 23 on stone is is not really uh ideal but maybe it is if you just castle everything on land's madness where there's golden stone everywhere what can pikeman do tattoo getting wheelbarrow it is very late when he's on four tc's but he prioritized his food eco in so many different ways what how does the leica get converted that fast that's supposed to be a counter oh uh oh um tattoo you're monks tattoo must feel so helpless patrolling around with his uh pikeman right now this group of pikeman has been following everything at all it's a forward castle forget about the defense joe wants the offense he knows there's not as many monks out he knows the pikemen are out of position that monk somehow doesn't get a conversion on a knight after the other one converted the light cav in a millisecond but that's monk rng for you and yo is not gonna care yo is definitely gonna take this to a game five as we see carvinian armor army and that means he can make some magyar hussar and that will not cost gold really fun tech to see it was playing with one of my favorite sieves too and he's used them wonderfully here i think tattoo did so much right in this game and i think that tata would have beaten the majority of players in this tournament with the way he played this in all honesty it's just that yo had an exceptional ability to snipe monks use mobility and stay alive when the going got rough do you remember when yo stopped making units in feudal i was thinking well well how does he defend from the eagles and he somehow did the best looking unit in the game with the hussars yeah man look at those hustlers it's a shame that the maggot hustler is weaker than a knight it really does look good let's zoom in on him are you gonna win this game are you gonna win this game come on you know when they stand there they kind of like nod their head up and down i was hoping for that but it kind of ruined it so okay well if i can find an idle unit at some point i'll give you guys what no okay i'll give you guys what you want either way yo is on the way to the imperial age he is all over this town center it's chingling down and i think tattoo might continue to play here as he feels he's pretty close to imp and he still has the pikes but i think we just have to wait until yo runs away enough times till he has a bigger mass and then has upgrades in the next age uh and then tattoo will get trapped down as well let's see can i find an idle puzzle no i can't now the final game is going to be on arena which is not yo's strong suit and if clown cup is something that you value patter was the winner of clown cup which is an arena tournament um and so that was like you know the the biggest arena tournament that happened somewhat recently i think it was a year ago so tattoos capable on arena and also we have an interesting civ arena he'll have burgundians i believe so burgundians and um burgundians against yo's malay is what i think will happen yeah category masters of arena is a thing but while masters of arena 6 is happening right now uh there has not been a master of arena in a while masters arena 5 wasn't taken seriously um there weren't a lot of big sign ups so it was really that clown tournament i mean most of the high level players don't really prioritize arena much right so i was trying to think of a tournament where they all are most signed up i don't think yo did but tattoo is on life support right now and yo is the one in charge of who pulls the plug and when and yo is going to pull that plug in just a second and tattoo is just going to have it to accept defeat you have cav archers and the cav archers are also an excellent tool against the pikes yo has insane upgrades i think tattoo calls it now because there's just no way back [Music] wow what a series uh now i did not have the pleasure of casting all of this tournament but i did cast yesterday and we saw players like doubt and leary and viper and yo and we saw jordan and nikov forget about all of it this is the best set of the tournament so far hands down the quality has been nuts the strategy's been nuts everything you'd want to see was was seen in this first semi-final and we have one more game and as i said it will be on arena but before we get there let's just sum this up a little bit look at the amount of military tattoo had how did you survive that the light cav was so clutch i wish i had a stat on how many monks were killed in this game i really do um oops uh hold on return to map is what i wanted uh return to map is what i wanted uh the little drop down showed how many units were created 65 eagles and 50 nights that's wild to me but i wish it showed the monks if i had to guess there were at least 15 to 20 monks that's 2 000 goldsworth maybe more uh and tattoo probably had more gold income because of that nope he didn't i was wrong he had more wood you know with better food eco in the end better gold eco and better stone eco but yeah i'm i'm just so pleased after watching that because you can see even though tattoo lost how people could lose against that strat i think that what hurt him was he didn't have the best food eco so he had to go only monk eagle and when a pikeman switched it was already a little too late because joe had gained a lead and the reason tattoo didn't have that food eco that stellar stellar foodico you might want is because of yo and the way he pressured tattoo and he forced tattoo to go so all in beautiful game beautiful beautiful beautiful game and also it is nice to see magyar's win against aztecs aztecs win all the time um and it's good to see like a map like that where different civilizations shine and different units can have success okay so that game just think about it probably the best game of the tournament just happened fast-paced and exciting and now we get to go to arena where nothing happens for 20 minutes i i don't know if i can handle this emotionally right now i need more action um okay i mean there will be there will be a build up that's for sure but from fast paced to very slow and chill um maybe it'll give me time to say hello to you all um you know if i can't say hello to you all there's normally a wave of people saluting you right about now welcoming you so thank you um scores 2-2 let's get a little bit of speculation in on the sieves real quick before the get next game starts and um i'm going to look through okay magyars won there and aztecs lost so while khmer are also good on arena i think malay is better on arena so i think we'll see malay for yo and then tattoo has vikings and burgundians picking vikings wouldn't be the craziest thing simply because of the civ matchup malay like to go for fast imperial age arbolest vikings can do that quite well but i think that burgundians are simply better on arena right now it will depend on tattoos preparation burgundians have had some tweaks so i don't know how much he's played them i don't know how confident he is with them in terms of strength though burgundians are just stronger than all the sieves available except for khmer i guess but arena while it is about imperial age strength uh you have to think about early imperial age strength you can't just assume with khmer you're going to get to elephants so my guess is malavers burgundians i think that's the easy guess if you're a betting man that's what you'd want to bet on here and they have started the next game it might be a minute behind but it's dark age and we'll hop in right now okay ark says whoever was that said they were studying today study the next 15 to 20 minutes you won't miss anything hey don't you discourage viewers from leaving the stream ark come on that's not cool actually that while that is true there's a lot of really important things to cover okay um i need to break down the strat that's the good thing about arena is i have time to talk about all the specifics not to pat myself in the back but i feel like with the previous game i did a fairly good job of doing so amongst the madness hey by the way it is the best of five not the best of seven so this is the final game in the semis they have not launched yet but they will soon yo was kind of underwhelming on arena yesterday against viper would you guys agree he had an okay castle age and then an imp he was there for like three minutes and resigned in fact while the whole best of five yesterday between yo and viper went to five games to me was nothing compared to this set i feel like every game that happens in the previo in the yeo and viper set the person who lost could have won and i was kind of confused there's been no confusion here today this has been sick oh god i just joined the lobby oh no i'm sorry whoops sorry guys thought you started i didn't mean to join i think they had launched and i i i ruined it for them what's up kaidos i'm going to get through some other names here bonzi uh mcgah cactus keyed ryuk alcatraz says thanks for getting me back into this game after so many years love the content hey you're welcome and thanks for being here uh dig bick thank you for the 26. uh sorry to hear that but not sorry to hear that i guess uh thanks for the continued support uh nick olius thank you marcus thank you and hello big altruist says t90 why didn't you play in this um i would have i guess i could have played in the first day i wanted to do community games odds are i probably would get through a few rounds and then lose so i i just my priorities with casting that's kind of where we're at t90 is too good for this uh yeah actually i was uh i was fourth seed and i i missed the sign up window that's what it was i missed the sign up window i missed the check-in that's what it was i was really confident i'd put in so much practice and i thought that i was going to win the whole thing and then you know i just missed the sign up window and i said okay we'll do community games seriously though 7 a.m check-in window oof that's rough i feel for hair on that one um okay so we are in the game you guys will see it here in a second and let's go game five big big moment for both of these players and we have a big old boomy campy map with two very unique arena sieves in the blue we have yo who's gone from malay a sieve that is known for going fast feudal fast into eco upgrades fast into castle age and then taking map control like you normally do in arena and then a whole lot else burgundians well they don't advance faster to the next stage to get eco upgrades they don't have to do that because they can research their eco upgrades one age earlier now there was a build and i've only seen one player doing it and it's not like the most well-known player so maybe these guys disagree with his outlook i would like to argue that they probably just didn't test it his name is cloud he's a taiwanese legend and this guy uh played doubt you guys might have seen a youtube video and he played doubt when he ended up playing doubt he um went 22 or 21 pop i forget the specifics fast feudal into castle jico upgrades ended up having a sick castle age time and going for a six or seven tc boom with burgundians now back then the flemish revolution was very cheap so the plan was to boom into 180 bills and then get that i don't think that's gonna be in the forefront of tattoo's mind but that gimmicky tech still exists so it's an option for tattoo more than anything i think he'll make use of getting eco upgrades earlier um and then maybe go into something like paladin and skirmisher which could work really well against malay but yeah watch that video i think it was defending from the revolution or doubt defending from the revolution dowd had to go fortified wall multiple defensive castles with crenellations and bomber cannons to defend from that like he really braced himself from it so i i'm not a fan of the technology i've made no secret of that but at least the devs made it more expensive i just don't know if it's worth it anymore okay so i just noticed something tattoo stone positions are really bad and i know there was an issue yesterday where they had to replay a game between yo and viper so i'm not sure if yo has some mega hacks that makes the stone positions worse for his enemies or if the map scripting's just kind of meh but tattoos stone positions could be a concern for him he can't leave this gate because of the stone um and then here his other stones are forward so this is technically a neutral but it's worth pointing out i much prefer yo's base the stone's more accessible and he has two golds in the back whereas tattoo has his gold somewhat forward and this gold here as well which is fine but guys gone are the days where high level players like the real big boys go for magnel pushes on arena um there are some arena players who are good at that with all in monks and siege but eco is king you tend to see the same thing every time on arena which i think is why it's it's moved down in the pecking order of people's favorite maps uh for watching high level play because it's usually booming and light cav so is it me or does t90 ran about any new change in aoe 2 good or bad jan chess if you think that you don't listen to me my friend if you think that you don't listen to me also the two most recent changes were burgundians and sicilians so i will admit it's been rather hard to find positive things and i i should try better but i i'll be honest with you guys on how i feel regardless of the situation that is what makes people hate me or makes people like me so but no there's lots of positives with d e man there's lots of positives and i do talk about those things but also if i don't talk about the things that need improvement i don't think we're going to get improvement on some things so there is that aspect as well is it me or does the guy whose job it is to talk a lot talk a lot yeah that's true i might talk a little too much so yo uh fast feudal as we expected 21 population and the plan here is fast uh horse collar and fast bit x something that tattoo already has so what cloud did and i encourage you guys to watch the video i don't think he's still doing it anymore so i don't think i can get a new video on the topic but if someone tries it i'll find it i'm always looking at profiles right and he went for tattoos upgrades but then he went fast feudal into the castle age upgrades but i think tattoo's way of doing it is is obviously good um we know it's strong and it's not as risky as the other way oh gosh okay doctor i'll maybe try that i stole your ratings i've been seeing you in chat again recently i wanted to say hi to you i noticed that there were quite a few clips on the stream yesterday and i wanted to give credit to you for clipping those before even checking to see if it was you who clipped it this might seem weird but i remember i was like i stole your ratings came back and we had a lot of really good clips on the stream yesterday and so i'm just assuming it was you if it was you thank you oh i only clipped one thanks well well one is awesome one is awesome i just assumed it was you i'll have to look i'll tell you who are the master clippers is the gamer legion social media team there are more clips on gamer legion's twitter of me casting games than i have ever posted anywhere they like listen i i love the fact that uh an org is involved with age of empires but also when i go to my twitter feed and there's like 25 clips i can't keep up with them but they go crazy so i appreciate that i appreciate that all right no one will complain about too much content as tattoos gonna hit feudal and i expect barracks yep i expect a stable that was satisfying how the barracks completed perfectly oh and he's gone market interesting huh well the market's not the craziest thing in the world that just tells you he's not going to get blacksmith upgrades for his units market's actually pretty common if you want to go for a boom approach which is going to happen on arena now he might be a little worried for you because tata's had the same eco upgrades and tatsu is going to end up clicking up to the next age a little faster than him but remember that yo advance is faster to the next stage but the reason that yo has a three villager lead right now is because he has spent less time with his tc not creating villes as he's advancing to the next stage so it's not just the eco upgrades but it's also you'll have more bills i think malay could still be strong on other maps but this is the map whether you're you have a given guarantee given guarantees the same thing it's a given it's a guarantee whatever that this is gonna happen um recently i lost a game to malay and i watched the wreck and i was like geez i thought i did everything okay but that bonus still really works off or works well in other maps you just don't lose a couple of villagers in feudal don't lose a couple villagers in castle and you've got a six villager lead if you have the same amount of tcs okay ray marrow says i hope we see karambits karambit warriors could actually work very well in this matchup you do have to be a little worried about making infantry when burgundians have the strong hand cannon ears but karambit warriors are insanely strong and they're so cheap and so i think that is a possibility for you i think the expectation though is something like arbalest because that's so unbelievably common if something like halberdy or arbalest makes sense if you're thinking the tattoo micropaladin can tattoo make up for the malay bonus by going 40 season castle um normally you're gonna be able to go for your town centers a little earlier than the malay player and specifically your third one anyways george so honestly it ends up somewhat evening out especially in this matchup tattoo arrives to castle age he's gonna add one town center monastery and then probably the next one joe's gonna do the same and i think that tattle will be slightly faster to the third tc but yeah there's really not much you can do about either of these bonuses on arena i think the reason arena is really good for most levels of age of empires is because you can go into a game with a set strat to execute it and nothing can ruin your plan type of one if you've like you're kind of hesitant to play online but sometimes you're like you know what i'm gonna go do this and i'm gonna try this strat and then you get scout rushed or made an arm rushed and you're like ah but but i can't follow my build order what do i do you know that's why arena is really good if you want to practice strats i can ruin my own plan no problem i i got you norik i forgot about you but everyone else doesn't do that so i'm kidding um okay well here's the tc for tattoo i think he misclicked i think he should be building that with four villagers that's a miss click so again that should be a little bit faster per my i thought on that but he made a mistake because he's fight fighting out here and now they just fight for relics and this is really important all the relics are towards the middle of the map especially against burgundians with their unique tech you do not want them to have relics as tattoo realizes that mistake what the build order says dave i don't know i followed this one guy on youtube and he he transported two stables to his own island and then resigned i've heard that's a pretty good build but i haven't tried it myself yet hmm sneaky stuff from yo so yo did have a monk over there tata was checking and the monk just kinda hid okay he's gonna grab the relic you can put stables in transports nice try dude nice try i might have misspoke but it still happened listen every other time we trash talk i lose okay but you didn't do yourself any self any favors here it's so funny to me i'm not alone yes i'm not alone okay well i'll have the rel account up now in case we missed something it's one to one for now tattoos out here trying to get another one he might go for the sneaky approach and try and work his way around this way to this gate if he can get through there um this fight seems like it would be better for you he's got a lot of spearmen out there no blacksmith upgrades for either player the thing about tattoos he's trying to catch up in spearmint number but that's awkward because one spearman can easily be taken out by a couple light calf oh look at that yo noticed it you noticed it you're not gonna sneak away from me and he kills the monk and we're gonna see a monk come out here for yo so it's actually good strategy to try and take the relics that are closest to tattoo towards your base if you're yo because even if you lose the monk it's at least closer to you now sometimes the monk will chuck it forward a tile too so yeah he'll lose this yeah see how it chucked it forward that's so weird i don't know why that happens but that helps a little bit okay so we have three relics on the map yo seems to have better vision of them better control of them and yo is having a fourth town center and yo still has maintained that vill lead though tattoo has had wheelbarrow and he's had the wood and the farm upgrade this entire time joe's been late on both of those or all three actually but wheelbarrow's not really late in a booming scenario coffee 90 says i think britain should have a relic heist bonus given england's history of sneaking foreign artifacts into their museums [Laughter] yeah i think i've talk to the devs about that i think they said that add that right after spec chat so thanks for the uh thanks for the info there well here's another tc for tattoo if you ordered booming you have booming there's actually a sauce called boom boom sauce which is freaking amazing i don't know if you guys know what that is and that's basically what you get on your arena games every single time okay oh this could actually be converts here or not okay so that's how it should work with like half but sometimes sometimes the leica get converted it's worth a shot for tattoo who now has really high hp like he's got six hp or six like have all on full hp so the healing he's been doing the patience he's had has been good but yo is gonna get three relics and tattoos gonna try and at least make it two for him what will they boom up towards is there a tc on stone for you okay there's not but he's on stone that could maybe lead towards karambits i think the best comp for malay might be karambit warrior and helba deer against burgundians when burgundians will go paladin skirmisher against arbolest yeah i really think that's the case okay monk healing up and trying to stay safe like hey i don't know you but i will heal you if you protect me they're like deal and then they get fully healed up and then they just let the monk die that's normally what happens too on arena if you think about it but like cab immediately leave okay here comes tattoo with some spearmint i think tattoo's in a good position to take the last one this is what i meant earlier about how you need to have high spearmint numbers versus the like half and yo will probably have put more focus onto his eco anyways not that they're both not doing that but i think yo is probably feeling pretty good with the three relics he doesn't want to invest too much more to get the fourth because he will have the lead so oh wait a second you know where that light cav's going he's looking now he sees the relic no he doesn't see the relic on the mini-map he should know that it has been picked up and tattoo's going the other way no this is not good tattoo don't go further from your base dude okay yo is looking and wait a second no way you're kidding me that's why he did it it was like what on earth where is he i checked everywhere and now tatsu's gonna bring it on home stealthy stealthy stuff what and like have got in ow yo doesn't have a loom so oh no he does have loom must have just researched that that's got to be dealt with now tattoo's going to be really really loving this now it's not the end of the world but he does have to make some units to deal with this now and you just know tattoo who has no other job than to just boom is probably going to uh to be annoying with this i guess one night is enough and yeah we'll be happy with that tatsu could also see what yo will do as you'll see a siege workshop in the middle for tattoo [Music] um yo doesn't need to be too worried about not being clicked up yet he's very heavy on stone so it looks like he's going to go for castles tattoo was later on stone than him and tattoo is going for cavaliers so the crazy thing about burgundians being able to research cavalier and castle age is not necessarily the fact that they can get cavalier in castle age because that takes time in crucial situations what's crazy is how you can insta-click paladin when you hit imp so in this type of a situation yes you don't get bloodlines which hurts but getting paladin at 33 minutes and a lot of them is insane because the paladin upgrade is discounted oh gosh yo this would be he could lose the series right here oh gosh man the things players do to casters man the things players do okay well castle's gonna go up that night has just been sent out here to just scout i imagine it'll probably die now yo can click this and see what upgrades are in and can see cab upgrades are coming in so he should know this will be paladin for tattoo and this combined with the eco upgrades is why people have been picking burgundians ever since the sieve came out for arena and if the enemy tries to go albedier against you you make hand cannons and you make bombard cannons with quick chemistry tattoos doing this perfectly problem i have with malay granted i think yo has not really shown at least in this tournament how to play malay too well on arena the problem i have with malay is that their units are not strong right so you have those bonuses to give you good eco but that's the that's what wins you or loses you games you it's not your units that's really that strong force levy people get excited about because it's a it's a noob's favorite thing to make a unit that is that other people have to spend gold on but you don't have to spend gold on and you're like yeah they're going to run out of gold but no you're going to run out of life if you try and play that way at a high level so tattoo's army is just going to be stronger so what yo needs to do is he needs to have more military so it's if tattoo has 60 military pop yo needs to have 90. um that's that's basically how it has to go i think it's going to be tough to achieve that but we'll see paladin will be in yo is just now getting our blessed and uh he will go for help so all this stuff seems like the proper the proper decision uh as he sits in the choke point it's just does he have the time to get there and tattoo choosing to fight before paladin is weird to me um maybe he just didn't have the timing exactly down in his mind he's also underneath the castle but he will have more where this came from so he's happy to just weaken those and lower those numbers yeah this paladin ended up being more than worth it okay halbel complete now yo's got pretty good eco but he's got eco for another castle he's got 20 on stone again he did the same in the previous game when he had the lead 20 on stone means he won't have as much food wood gold to make everything else he's got five archer ranges he's got five barracks tattoos working out of six stables and uh make it seven actually and he has bomber cannons already out as he's now adding ranges he's gonna try and take this gold and i think he's gonna try and break through here i got a text from a family member recently a couple people in my family have been starting to play age of empires and i keep getting updates and it's super cool it's really funny to relive the old days of age and someone i got a text and it was yo why do my bomber cannons not take out trees and no it was why do my bombard balls not kill trees i don't want to out which family member it was because nowadays i think i have like i've got a couple uncles and cousins watching and they like to trash talk so i'm gonna i'm not gonna out this one because he's the biggest noob of them all but i was like sorry it doesn't work that way so i'm not sure why tattoo came over here with the bumber cannons is my point and yo made a castle here in the middle and this is where it's all gonna go down this is the battlefield now keep an eye on the value paladins are very expensive the idea of playing with malay is to play so you can afford everything and they cannot so it's working out for yo in terms of gold efficiency as he took out two bomber cannons i think it was really weird how tattoo ran over here and then just allowed this castle to go up but he is pressuring it now at least oh boy joe's got villagers here and maybe that's why tattoo went there to secure the gold he will need that and yell will soon have bomber cannons out of his own yo needs to be a 200 pop he needs to have 80 military at all times and a lot of production buildings at tattoos trebuchet has gone down i was expecting more from early imperial age from tattoo honestly i thought he'd be pushing this castle instead there's two castles here and oh he's gonna put hard in damage control time what can you do yo damage control there's another petard can he hit a house foundation can he hit something to break through what you could do is you could attack the house foundation with the paladin and then hit it with the batard or you could trap yourself in game five paladins lacking bloodlines means they will go down a lot faster than other civs paladins and tattoo has tried twice now to switch the focus it's not normally what arena is about normally it's about a big old snowball both players are at 200 pop though it's just that yo is working with less eco but it'll have more military because of it and that's exactly how this should balance out because his military units are worse they're weaker in terms of population or sorry in terms of hp i really like the skirmisher paladin combo this is what i thought tata would be opening with and maybe he was just a little late to the skirms but if he loses the castle he's not going to like that and it's his bomber cannon we'll take out that trap and help matters there they don't really want to make two-handed swordsmen right now if you're yo because then you don't have as many halves and arms you're kind of stuck at 200 pop with what you've got and tata will be happy with this bomber cannons went down there treb went down and now he has his own trebs in his own bomber cannons and it's his turn to push dude i'm telling you karambit warriors and halvadir that would be so good here i think it it just cannot justify it because of this the stressful situation he's in and because he could lose his castles but karambits would absolutely own the skirmishers but oh my god tattoo suddenly doesn't have paladins here and in a moment he's not gonna have trebs either he lost his bomber cannons he's gonna lose his trebs yo three two tattoos teammate viper yesterday and yo is looking i mean after that fight like it's better and better for him to maybe win this game you are on the clock against malay if you're ever making trash units malay will go for two-handed swordsmen that do not cost gold and guess what he got forced levy people he he also is researching man at arms so he's thinking about it already onagers for tattoo uh it does make sense it's also expensive he's kept that castle up for now as i like the fact he's researched architecture also i like the fact that yo just killed his own trebuchet but i guess he was going to lose it anyways you all must have misclicked because he has cav archers out and that's not so good and um he also doesn't seem to have as much military as he did a moment ago both players having moments where they they stopped cueing units this is kind of funny uh tattoo with trebs is hitting the houses and yo is gonna stonewall now he's really worried about that i think he'll make a bomber cannon here or he might send these bomber cannons in yeah yeah there you go it's weird to me that yo didn't even get masonry he doesn't have any hp upgrades on his buildings uh and maybe if tattoo switches focus this time what he can do is come back with a greater push to the middle because yo is reacting to this no bomber cannon from there yet if there's a hole the paladins could get in the skirms have to pull back the skirms do lack the final armor upgrade oh first time yo we'll see onager bomber cannon down and arboles get pushed back still not the worst fight for yo as he only has long swordsman which again brings me back to you trying tech switch in crucial situations often times what what can happen is you throw the game i think he should have waited till he was in a better position to try and get all those technologies he doesn't have the units now guys tattoo can onager cut through the trees if he honors your cuts through the trees he can run in with anything he could raid with skirmishers and yos even made a castle back here two-handed swordsman's on the way even though it doesn't cost gold they're still two-handed swordsmen they're still not a great unit tattoo has gold income tattoos in with paladin oh man he'll instantly kill the bombard cannon that's a huge loss for yo by the way yoast cav archers do they are working working to take out those villagers now tatsu is going to pressure the middle tattoo can do this it was the side play that that brought him all the success he'll actually deny that castle tatsu can win the game right here i wish he had more trebs here also what is that technology what is that flemish revolution you're crazy he canceled that right did he can't what happened there what tell me he canceled that he he must have canceled it but that tech is really fast how do you cancel a tech that researches instantly oh my god guys blemish revolution means all your villagers turn into military he would have gone from 140 eco and 35 military to 175 military and no eco granted it can work but you also can throw a game that way but but speaking of as this whole series continues to go back and forth uh the trebs went down and he wasn't able to push the middle and joe was back in it and he did it the revolution is here i i think tattoo did it at the wrong time guys i could be wrong i have complained about this tech many times and i'm not going to use this opportunity to do it but there's just not much you can do against 170 military except cross your fingers and hold and hope that their units die to castles now the key for this strategy is that you need to have trebs behind if your tattoo because you need to push their fortifications and he decided to go for the revolution after losing two trebuchets so let's see our bless should be a counselor to this man at arms or two-handed swordsmen should be accounts for this everything yo is doing should be a counter to this now notice what tattoo's doing is he's adding more villagers afterwards so he's he's re-popping his eco 125 military verse 36 this is an s tier tournament 35 000 prize pool and a player just instantly with a click of a button in age of empires 2 skyrocketed to that type of a population now the fascinating thing about this and i will i will admit to you guys the tech is growing on me okay um the fascinating thing about the technology and what happens as a result of it is how this bar is normally the opposite on each side so the military number and the eco number seems to be flip-flopped and yo he took some big losses but he's been able to hold against this somehow and the populations are looking fairly similar but guys why did tattoo research this when he only had one bomber cannon in one trip you need to have four traps or four bomber cannons at least you need to be taking out the buildings when and spamming your military to the castles this castle was clutch from yo and tattoo now he's not gonna have resource income and i think tattoo even though he's gonna get his villagers again is really gonna struggle now also wasn't needed right there do you guys think it was needed i i'm not saying that technology is uh necessarily good or bad i think it's situational but i think it was rushed when the tech came out i said that it would be a tech you would research if you were really far ahead or really far behind i was wrong on that but i think there tata almost researched it like he thought it would just win in the game now he's like what and for the lulz maybe he's got some units over here it's kind of funny he had villagers on gold and now they're just militia um and he doesn't have you know much really working for him as far as eco and now yo should push him yo should get his bomber cannons and trebs out and he's about to do that and push the middle and i think you know the flemish revolution has been discussed a lot since it came out but they upped the cost of it and i was happy the devs did that because it at least made it not as op and it's it makes it more of a risk and a tattoo a player who doesn't really go for risky strategies he tends to have strategies that he's practiced and tested and he has really good game sense i think he made an awful mistake there and you cannot research it again not that he'd have the resources too because i think chad can tell you what the new price is but yeah you cannot research it again so it's just a one-and-done thing hopefully they don't make it cheaper the second time around or something the militia rating man but that revolution has led to very little for tattoo as the populations are evening out uh he has now lost the middle of his base there's gold here his relics are here as well this area is very important and maybe tata just felt like he was gonna run out of gold and that he had to do something because malay are so good at holding on they're not necessarily good at pushing in the early game it's just it's just holding players are very good defensively now and guys tattoo is falling apart he's at 130 population he's making some paladins out of desperation over here yo is gonna get some gold not that he's even spending all of his gold but i'm sure he'll find a way to the hand cannons are very expensive unit you see one of those go down there and tattoos paladins will take out bomber cannons that's good so i guess if you're thinking of revolting against your people you're revolting against an opposing government or your government the government would like you to think that this is exactly what's going to happen if you oppose them this just in microsoft devs were paid off by a big government so people were not encouraged to revolt i just i mean his pop looks good don't get me wrong his farm count looks good it's just his units don't look all that impressive if he can't make paladin anymore hmm kumar it it's so funny okay on a scale of one to ten how awesome do you think the flemish revolution is i need to have an answer for most of people watching right now on a scale of one to ten how awesome do you think it is okay i'm seeing some fives i'm seeing negative six i'm seeing some tense it's so divisive some people love it some people are like you old farts are too cranky you have to accept new things other people are like this is an age of empires this isn't what we know blah blah blah you know and it's just like so funny to me to see the responses from viewers in chat with that aside yo defended from the revolution and i think he's won the game i think it was poorly timed from tattoo i'm not saying it's necessarily a bad strat but man oh man was that just poor he needed trebs to back it up he needed to have more meat in front you can't just run into castle fire he's banging your head on the wall eventually you're gonna get knocked out and this is gonna be yo's game yo will move on to the final and he will face the winner between leary and jordan which will be happening next now i don't want to say i told you so but if you were to have been here all day after that nomad game game two i said there might be a time where tattoo kicks himself that he didn't win that game this is that time grant he might be frustrated as well that he wasn't able to close this one out but he was 2 000 or 3 000 score ahead in the nomad game and yo came back this one was a whole lot closer so you can maybe accept the loss but yeah man in the best of five you have to deliver in every game and that's what yo brings to the table is execution is so consistent and for the gamer legion guys tattoo and viper if you look at their performances against yo a viper lost to yo 32 yesterday i think you could argue that both viper and tattoo had greater peaks in their series against yo but they were not as consistent as yo there were some misplays some missteps every now and then and as these archer ranges go down yo has got to be loving life right now of course uh after this we'll have the other semi then a best of three third place match between the losers of the semis so tattoo we will see more from him today more opportunities to fight on um and honestly his pop is really good should i not be calling this right now his pop is really good but i just don't see how he survives yo we should just snag these relics so he has all five relics oh yo don't tell me that's a little sloppy that that's still there tata is doing whatever he can to try and get back into the game yeah i think even though tattoos pop is high he's he doesn't he cannot compete with 90 military and he's slowly just going to lose everything now tattoo needs another revolution he doesn't have a castle and you can't research it twice but wow a silkerin this is the semi-final um i don't think it's fair to say that tattoo is failing to deliver in big events tattoo has had exceptional performances in big events at times being a little unlucky with who he faces and when yo has historically had his number in big events and maybe people are expecting tattoos to win finals and if you're expecting tata to win finals then maybe it is fair to say he's underperforming but i think tattoo has played really really good getting to a semi-final if getting to a semi-final is failing to deliver then i would love to fail sign me up i would love to fail please make me a failure gg that's just the standards we have for our players right the fact that someone would even say that making it to a semi and losing is a failure is just the standards we put on these guys and tattoo does not pull it out yo moves on to the final yo played so good here guys i i was a little worried about his units right i didn't think that he would be able to compete with 60 or 7 burgundian military tattoo took a different approach it didn't seem like he ever wanted to get his ball going seemed like he wanted to play it a bit like arabia open it up and hit the sides i just don't think that worked out for him he made trebs and batards on this side multiple times he tried to run into paladins multiple times and it felt like when there were opportunities for him to push yo yo somehow came back stronger in the middle um and even that was fine it was still somewhat 50 50. remember tata was taking all this gold all this gold and also had his gold at home but then he went for the revolution and we'll see it on the timeline look how far that dropped off for him if he had trebs it's a different story if he had four trebs or or similar amount of bomber cannons he can push those castles and toss away his military but he was just running into castle fire and our blessed and two-handed swordsmen and in many ways maybe malay counter that because their units are so cheap you can make the two-handed swordsmen and orbs and survive the storm there's the kd for you 696 kills for yo uh tattoo he did have really solid eco in that game but joe had more food he had more stone and the gold was pretty similar of course yo also executing with the relics in the middle getting three in that game um datto he should be proud of his performance but i think that he will be disappointed in himself because it was so close players are always going to think they could have changed a thing or two to get a win yo moves on to the final there's other things tatsu could have done like getting burgundy and vineyards but i don't think burgundy and vineyards i don't think burgundy and vineyards would have won him the game i think that burgundy and vineyards could have been something combined with other good decisions that could have been good for tatso there um it was just the revolution was horrible the revolution was just not good

Channel: T90Official - Age Of Empires 2

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Length: 175min 56sec (10556 seconds)

Published: Mon Jul 26 2021