Ryzen 7 5800X or 5800X3D? 41 Game Benchmark 1080p, 1440p & 4K

[Music] welcome back to how are unboxed so recently i compared the new amd ryzen 7 5800x 3d and intel core iron 1200k head to head in 40 games and i found that overall they did offer a very similar gaming experience of course they tried to blows but overall much of a muchness still there were plenty of really interesting data points and this motivated me to include the original 5800x and that allows us to see where that massive l3 cache is helping out so that's what we'll be doing today but before we do today's sponsor spot is brought to you by msi and their nvidia geforce rtx 30 series of graphics cards now for budget conscious gamers the ventus series offers loads of value with a no fast performance focus design packing large triple fan coolers then for the next tier in performance and aesthetics the gaming series offers low noise operation and eye-catching led lighting or for those of you after the best of the best the supreme series delivers uncompromising performance through state-of-the-art thermal designs and of course those chiseled good looks and then all models support ray tracing and dlss so for more information please check the link in the video description okay so on the menu today is another 40 game benchmark actually this time it'll be 41 because i have been able to include a microsoft flight simulator and i'll talk a bit more about that when i get to that section anyway this time i will be comparing the 500x 3d to the 5800x and we're doing so head-to-head at three resolutions using the rtx 3090ti now at this point in time i am yet to discover just how many of these things amd has to sell because they get to go on sale they should be going on sale roughly the time this video is released and they should be made available at 450 us i'm hearing there isn't that many of them so if you do want one probably best to get in as early as you can you have seen reviews and a lot so you know what you're buying so at least there is that but i've heard that supply is rather limited at least for this initial wave so we'll have to see how they go but at that point it still costs more than the 500 x 3d and it's now slower so when it comes to the ultimate gaming performance intel and amd are tied the 5800x3d is cheaper it's more power efficient and easier to cool making it the more practical ultimate gaming solution but what about those of you who want high-end gaming performance but aren't interested in paying a premium for the ultimate in gaming performance from intel you have the core i7 12700k which i'll be adding to this data set next and then from amd there's the 5800x which now costs just 340. and the new 5700x which is 290 for this test i'm only going to include the 5800x but with a mere 2 frequency advantage over the 5700x you can safely assume this performance is also achievable with the cheaper ryzen 7 part so not only are we going to take a really in-depth look at where the 3dv cache helps to improve performance but we're also going to see if it's worth spending the extra 32 to 55 percent more on the 5800 x 3d both cpus have been tested using ddr4 3800 cell 16 memory with the msi x570s carbon max wi-fi this is the highest clock memory we can use the ryzen 7 processor while running at a one to one ratio with the fclk then the other test system notes to be aware of is the fact that resizable bar is enabled using the geforce rtx 3090 ti okay let's get into the data starting with valorent we find a solid performance uplift for the 5800x 3d and 18 increase with average frame rate at 1080p and a 24 boost of the 1 lows and similar figures were also seen at 1440p and even 4k as the game is entirely cpu limited frankly i feel the 5800x is more than fast enough here but if for whatever reason you require more performance than the 5800x 3d will probably appeal to you we're looking at even bigger performance gains in fortnight here the 5800x 3d was up to 27 faster seen at 1080p and 1440p again the 5800x was certainly very fast but the 3d version meant that one percent lows were kept above 250 fps even at 4k the 5800x 3d was up to 19 faster which is quite remarkable and although most competitive players target 1080p or maybe 1440p i certainly appreciate the boost at 4k as this is the resolution i play fortnite at call of duty warzone players rocking a zen 3 processor will see quite a substantial performance uplift for the 5800x3d when cpu bound here the new 3dv cache model was up to 26 faster so that's in line with what we saw in fortnite and this margin was seen at 1080p and 1440p when looking at one percent lows though this time the game became entirely gpu limited at 4k now many of you are very excited to see acc included in the previous benchmark and yes i will be including it moving forward the gains here for the 5800x 3d are incredible as we're looking at an improvement in one percent lows of up to 53 with a 43 boost to the average frame rate and we're seeing a massive 30 improvement to one percent lows even at 4k so the 500x3d is much faster across the board than the original 5800x in this title suggesting that this is a very cache sensitive game as noted in the previous benchmark city skylines is basically a single core game which is why we're seeing such an extreme cpu bottleneck at a relatively low frame rate the 3d v cache does help here boosting performance by almost 20 across the board and you'll certainly notice this improvement starcraft 2 is yet another single core game and this one runs very poorly late game unless you have a very modern processor that is here we're seeing a massive 52 percent improvement at one percent low to the 5800x3d and a 32 increase for the average frame rate although the 5800x was still quite good you will notice that huge improvement with the 3d model and this massive margin was also seen at 1440p and even at 4k so big improvements here with the 3dv cache interestingly very little improvement was seen in apex legends at most a 9 increase to 1 percent lows was seen at 1080p with a 3 boost to the average frame rate so for those of you primarily playing apex legends the 5800x 3d isn't going to be worth the investment the same is also true for dying light too particularly if you're playing at 1440p or higher and especially so if you're gaming with a gpu that's slower than rtx 3090 ti so while the massive 3d v cache can be of great benefit for some titles that won't always be the case as we've seen here the performance uplift for rainbow six siege is also quite tame here we're looking at just a nine percent boost at 1080p followed by nothing at the gpu limited 1440p and 4k resolutions battlefield 5 runs significantly faster with the 5800x 3d boosting one percent lows by 33 at 1080p and the average frame rate by a whopping 41 percent even at 40 and 40p we're looking at a 30 improvement at one percent lows and a 21 increase for the average frame rate then even at 4k we're still looking at up to a 14 boost for the 3dv cache so quite an impressive set of results here f1 2021 is another game that saw strong performance gains for the 5800x3d this time one percent lows were improved by 40 at 1080p and then a more mild but still very impressive 17 increase for the average frame rate then at 1440p the 1 lows were boosted by 22 with just a five percent increase for the average frame rate and then no performance gains were seen at 4k moving on to halo infinite here we're looking at a 35 improvement for the one percent lows at 1080p and a 23 increase to the average frame rate those margins were reduced to 22 percent for the one percent lows and then just six percent for the average frame rate before seeing performance basically neutralized at 4k still the boost from the 5800x38 1080p and 1440p is quite significant as it meant one percent lows were now above 100 fps even with slightly dialed down quality settings red dead redemption 2 is still mostly gpu bound as seen at 1440p and 4k there are some gains to be had at 1080p where the 5800x 3d was up to 16 faster so a good uplift there though i suspect under most gaming conditions there will be little to no difference between these two cpus for this title for whatever reason the one percent low performance of the 5800x is quite weak in the outer worlds this unreal engine 4 title has never played well with amd hardware but the 5800x 3d does go a long way towards changing that at 1080p the 1 lows were improved by an incredible 57 margin and although the uplift to the average framework was a lot less extreme a 22 boost is still very impressive the margins do shrink at 1440p and are almost entirely eliminated at 4k the second last game we're going to look at is death stranding and again it's the one percent lows that are improved the most with the 5800x 3d boosting performance at 1080p by 31 with a 14 increase to the average frame rate the 500x3d remained up to 20 faster at 1440p before hitting a gpu limited brick wall at 4k now for the 1200k versus 5800x 3d comparison i didn't include microsoft flight simulator because well i couldn't get it to work and let me explain on our amd test system the simulator worked just fine but on the intel system i ran into what's known as the infinite login loop a bug that has been widely reported on by users and this isn't anything to do with intel is not a problem with intel or the intel system it's just well microsoft kind of suck at making games or well a lot of things i've tried every suggestion i could come across to fix the issue but no joy i simply cannot log into my account on our intel test system i even took to twitter hoping someone there could help me and paul alcorn from tom's hardware said they'd had a similar issue for months now and have been unable to find a solution so for now i won't be able to provide any intel results but here is how the 5800x 3d and 5800x compare we're looking at a 21 to 23 performance increase at 1080p with up to an 18 boost seen at 1440p before running into a gpu bottleneck at 4k so good gains here for the 3dv cache okay so we've looked at a little over a dozen games now but with 41 of them in total there is a lot more data to go over so let's take a look at the breakdown graphs which are covering the 1080p 1440p and 4k resolutions the ryzen 5 5800x 3d delivered on average a 15 performance bump over the original 5800x which is quite impressive and in line with amd's own claims so for 41 titles just 10 saw performance gains of 5 or less which we deem insignificant there were 25 examples where the performance margin was 10 or greater and then 13 where gains exceeded 20 that means for 32 percent of the titles tested the gains were what i'd call very significant moving up to 1440p did reduce the margin to nine percent in favor of the 1500 x 3d as the testing became more gpu bound so unless you play at low quality settings or have an extremely fast gpu performance for the most part is going to be very similar with almost 70 of the titles tested seeing single digit gains then at 4k we're almost always entirely gpu limited with the exception of just a few titles starcraft 2 which is now a 12 year old game that only utilizes a single course even at 4k we're still heavily cpu bound and the same is also true of city skylines valorant on the other hand isn't a cpu bound it just doesn't push the graphics card very hard shifting the limitation more towards the cpu then for the rest of the games we're mostly looking at gpu limited performance now before wrapping up the graphs here's a look at the 1080p one percent low data which shows a more significant improvement for the 1500x 3d when compared to the average frame rate data that we just went over on average the 1 lows were improved by 22 and we're seeing some extreme examples of 50 or greater gains in starcraft 2 and acc moreover there are now 22 examples where the gains exceed 20 percent with just a handful of titles showing a single digit gains so the 50 x 3d isn't just enabling higher frame rates but also smoother performance when compared to the 5800x certainly some very impressive gains we're seeing with the ryzen 758 rx 3d over the original 5800x it's clearly a much better gaming cpu but is it worth paying more than a 30 premium for or a little over 50 when compared to the new 5700x as usual that depends it depends on the games you're playing how you're playing them and then what kind of performance you're after if the goal is to simply obtain the best gaming performance possible then yeah the 5800x3d will be what you're after either that or the core i9 1200k though you'll have to spend quite a lot more money to obtain this level of performance with intel alternatively if you're playing games such as starcraft 2 watchdogs legion acc f1 2021 battlefield 5 and a handful of other titles that we tested the performance gains were very significant and if you're after more performance than the 5800x can deliver then yeah the 580x3d will be the obvious choice but if you don't have the gpu power to take advantage of the headroom offered by the 5800x3d or you won't be playing games at lower quality settings then for the most part the 5800x3d won't be much or possibly any faster than the 5800x or for that matter the newer and cheaper 5700x in short if your goal is to acquire maximum bang for your buck in a wide range of games the 5800x 3d isn't really going to be the way to go for that the ryzen 7 5700x or core i7 12700f will probably offer more value and typically i've been recommending the core i7 part but we'll take a good look at the 5700x soon so while not an amazing value part the 5800x 3d is still incredibly impressive and demonstrates just how many options amd now has available to make their cpus a lot faster for particular tasks opposed to intel who is still largely relying on brute force the 12 900 ks being a good example of this intel's only move here was to overclock the 1200k by six percent resulting in overall gains of a few percent while charging around 30 percent more in the process meanwhile for a similar premium amd's delivering up to 50 more performance with 15 to 22 more on average depending on the metric you look at so again a very impressive achievement there but how impressive it really ends up being will depend entirely on pricing and availability and as i mentioned at the start of the video that's something that looks a little bit sketchy at this point in time but we will have a good handle on it in the coming weeks but now though that is going to do it for this comparison coming up next i'll compare the 12700 kf against the 5800x3d and 5800x and then we'll see which brand offers the best value high-end cpu for gamers until then though make sure that you are subscribed and if you'd like to become a hardware box community member then you can subscribe to either floatplane or patreon accounts either of those will give you access to our exclusive discord server for members only we do 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Length: 16min 19sec (979 seconds)

Published: Wed Apr 20 2022