Navy SEAL: Danger Brings Clarity | Joe Rogan and Andy Stumpf

I'm on his first jump off of a cliff in Italy the first time you put a wingsuit on and it's uh that one's stung a bit so it's on pause potentially forever as far as BASE jumping goes I'll still skydive but it's it's a question mark on the BASE jumping cell but you do such risky [ __ ] this guide I was like yeah skydiving that's no big just skydive I'll jump out of a [ __ ] plane that I would do with my eyes closed every day that's the night risk ratio on that one is were we're all set what is the risk ratio on skydiving like what percentage of those things go wrong it's incredibly low so that you have a main parachute and a reserve parachute I don't think there has been a true double failure meaning your main parachute malfunctions you cut it away properly and deploy your reserve parachute and have that also fail in 20-some years people die skydiving all the time well not all the time because I guess it you know the population of people that do it is not huge but I would say the vast majority of people who died skydiving they they kill themselves they make a poor decision and most people who die skydiving died under perfectly functioning equipment really so the the canopy size the main canopy that you're flying the wing over your head the smaller it is the faster it goes the faster it descends but also quite frankly the more fun it is but with fun there's consequence so there are canopies that you can initiate a turn and if you initiate the turn to low you cannot pull the canopy out of the turn you will impact the ground at a high rate of speed regardless of what you do and if you get under that canopy with not enough experience obviously your odds of making a bad decision are going to go through the roof so most injuries and fatalities at least from the stuff I have seen is from people making poor decisions under good equipment or choosing to execute an emergency procedure which would be cutting away your main parachute and deploying reserve either out of sequence or doing it too low where the reserve parachute doesn't have time to open to me that's not a failure of the parachute system that's the failure of the individual who is driving that parachute system so if you have a main parachute and you jump out and you hit the main parachute and there's a malfunction how do you cut it off to put to get the other one so there's two pillows one on each side the right hand side you literally need to do this in the correct order even though people have killed himself by going backwards so you pull to full arm extension you it's literally just a pillow with Velcro that has two cables and the cables are what's actually holding the parachute on your shoulders if you pull that out a 3-ring release system which is basically just a load reduction system unwinds itself and your parachutes gone and you're going back into freefall and you just pull the other pillow it sounds worse than it is and before I had my first cutaway it was terrifying and then after you have four or five you're like okay I got this you had four or five main parachutes fail I think I'm at about seven well I've been jumping for twenty years I started jumping in 99 statistically I'm actually I think under uh I think it's like one in every eight hundred and eighty-eight jumps you'll have a malfunction or a gear failure it's honestly like it's your first one is an emotional experience I would imagine you said what was the first one uh deploying a parachute and just sitting there looking at it as it's because they want to open and you can I can tell now and within an instant of trying to deploy my parachute whether or not it's gonna open or not just by looking at the shape by sometimes listening to it and just seeing how it opens sometimes I mean so packing a parachute people think is really difficult if you can fold a t-shirt you can pack a parachute sometimes though you you know you just get off of a jump and you only have ten minutes to make the next jump so you skip a few steps or you rush through a few steps is that what happened with you potentially I may have skipped all of the non-essential steps and a few of the essential steps to get the parachute really I was just rushing and I did have a lot of experience so I was stuffing the thing in there and when I try to deploy the parachute it just it was asymmetrical so sometimes it'll it'll open and it'll start spinning and then you're flying with your back to the it gets that would be considered an exciting moment I would say so what happened with you what exactly went wrong I just came out asymmetrically the parachute wasn't opening and were you spinning no I wasn't I actually was able to recognize just by it should come out it looks like a rectangle more than anything but if you look like a rectangle that's twisted there's no way to fix that no way so just get rid of it and that's what I did I looked up and I said okay that's not gonna work reach pull reach pull and your reserve open so fast like by the time I felt like by the time I had pulled the reserve handle because I had to handle that point by the time I had moved my arm to three-quarters of extension it had fired off Wow yep dude but the difference and you're asking the difference like why is risk skydiving lower it's because you have time thousands of feet whereas BASE jumping you might have hundreds or if you're really pushing the envelope you might have sub ten feet because you're flying close to the ground as fast you can go did your friend Alex who died did he die BASE jumping or died wingsuit BASE jumping something that I was I mean he was my main BASE jumping partner what is the difference between wingsuit BASE jumping in a regular base jump regular base jumping you just have a quick deploy parachute right so you have one parachute system when you base jump instead of two because there is not time for a reserve to open so that is just taken out of the system right so you pack your primary or only parachute very similar to a reserve it's designed to open rapidly it's designed to take a lot of load but so BASE jumping is just jumping off of a static object base stands for building antenna span or earth so four types of object the addition of the wingsuit is really the only difference which allows you to like for myself personally I'm not a huge fan of jumping off buildings in cliffs without a wingsuit because I don't like being from me to that flag when a parachute opens because if it doesn't open exactly in the direction you want it to you better be johnny-on-the-spot or you're gonna have a [ __ ] problem so it's to me if you have enough altitude you put a wingsuit on in two or three seconds the suit is mocking forward so then you're hundreds if not thousands of feet away from the object then you're perish you can open up however you wanted to have they made any improvements in the technology of this stuff since you first started jumping huge improvements I mean the first wing suits were literally just fabric that had like the little thumb loops you'll find on like cold-weather long-sleeve shirts sometimes seriously like Patrick kept it on that's how they kept it on I didn't show up any of those goddamn things but I mean I think Patrick day Garden is how you say his name he was one of the first and they would just sit there and just they would just jam their appendages and lock them out and use their entire musculature to say all this fabric as far out as they could get [ __ ] and then the suits now are unbelievable so each wing like the wing between your legs and the wing between each of your arms so there's three of them they're totally independent they have a ram air opening so the air rushes into that and makes the wing semi rigid so it reduces the stress on your body and they flight characteristics are insane you can go you can get the suit flying faster you can fly it flatter you can float everything about it is improved except for the decision-making process of the monkey who's actually jumping it that's the original one Jamie or that guy's dead for sure it says Manus Micky Morgan wearing that wingsuit is that ridiculous well who is the first [ __ ] psycho that thought that this was something that they should try it could potentially oh my god this guy's like he looks like he's living in the 1800s when did they invent these [ __ ] things I don't know I know one of these guys died going off the Eiffel Tower in an exhibition this is 1900 right here 1900 what in the [ __ ] look at that guy strong you know what man if you were living in 1900 you probably like listen I let's just get this over living in 1906 bucking whiskey's illegal I'm just jumping off look at that that is crazy so let's see that yeah I mean that's I mean honestly I'm not gonna lie I would probably jump that out of airplane T 95 oh he's the inventor Earl Stein he died in the first attempt oh Jesus Christ he died in the first attempt honored to a modern hero all right settle down but here's the thing Joe there's like 60 some people who are associated with the modern-day wingsuit and testing and evaluating to get it to this point mm-hmm they're all dead all of them are dead every one of them but that suit like I mean that suit and the difference between that and where we are now it's it's night and day but everyone involved in the creation of these wingsuits died in a wingsuit yep [ __ ] man yep that is not good there wouldn't be a whole lot of black belts and jiu-jitsu everyone who got to a certain point died you know I'm saying it's hard to justify rationalize the behavior for sure I'll be the first person to admit that what is it like what what is it about you gotta jump but it's dog that's Dean Potter we're jumping with his dog oh the poor dog so the dog the dog's fault the dog I believe is that looks like Switzerland crazy [ __ ] [ __ ] owner so Dean was insane right he's a world-class rock climber he's also dead from jumping a wingsuit he died in Yosemite it's like I said the technology advances I am NOT I was not there the day that Dean died I've talked to people who have looked at it as to the conditions that led up to it and one thing people generally don't want to do is place the responsibility on the individual making the choice but what from everything that I have seen he made a choice to jump at a time when he should not have been jumping due to visual conditions so even though the suits are amazing really the only thing that doesn't seem to be evolving is the person that's that's jumping it it most of the time just like skydiving it's just a human being making a very poor choice to include Alex what is it about people and I mean particularly people like yourself that love these thrills like what are you getting at what are you getting out of that other than this mad adrenaline rush and what is it like what motivates you to keep doing that so I look back at it objectively yeah I think when I initially started pushing hard down that path I was trying to replicate a headspace or a feeling or a sensation that I had in my old job so if you want to talk about clarity of thought and I think you know we might have talked about this the very first time that we sat down stripping away all ancillary [ __ ] that has absolutely no meaning but for me at least spend I spend 99% of my time worrying about things that have no impact whatsoever right so you sit on a helicopter picked the battlespace that you're in you get a five-minute warning and you really stop worrying about whether or not you have enough money in your checking account to cover your mortgage and then you get a three minute warning and then you kind of stop worrying about whether or not you just had an argument with your wife or you just sent off some snarky email then you get a one-minute warning in a 30-second warning and the closer and closer and closer you get everything is gone and it is still to this day the sensation and state that I have been in that is by far I had no question about my purpose and I had the utmost clarity that I've ever experienced in my life and you get you get used to operating in that headspace of just being in the moment the first 1 2 3 seconds in front of you nothing else matters I'm gonna solve this problem and move on to the next one this problem move on to the next one well then I lost that ability to do that and it sucked because I liked operating in that headspace because it it helped me deal with all the other [ __ ] in my life because it reset for me my what matters and what doesn't matter ratio I was able to get rid of like I've described it it's just the white noise in my head or another way I'll describe it is like Jamie's got a bunch of levers that he can push up I think in this I'm included in this I think most people are pegged out at a 10 almost all the time they're [ __ ] white knuckling through life but if you can get into that state where you have that clarity of purpose clarity of focus I felt like it pulled everything back to a3 and so that state helped me in things had nothing to do with that activity and it lasted for a long time so when you're BASE jumping and you're standing on a cliff and you're scared out of your mind and you can't talk as your mouth is so dry and you have the pea ring on your suit which is why you always get dark suit so people can't see your pea ring and every alarm bell in your body is telling you don't jump and it had the same experience I wasn't worried about checking account I wasn't worried about what was going on in life I was just living in that moment and it helped me be a better dad it helped me be a better husband it helped me be better at any business decision that I need to make cuz it allowed me to pull all of those stereo levers back down so it's less for me and I can only speak for me it's less about thrill-seeking cuz I get that all the time like you're an adrenalin junkie like huh I enjoy I'm gonna adrenaline enthusiast I certainly enjoy that but I actually like what I get from the activity more than the activity itself what do you think is going on where people are pegged at 10 all the time with nonsense and that's something that's life-threatening can bring it back to a three and offer clarity I mean there has to be something that you've discussed or thought about in depth I just think it helps you Control Alt Delete your hard drive a little bit it helps by not having like when I'm standing on a cliff right before I get ready to jump there is absolutely nothing that I am thinking about other than where I want to be in the next 3 seconds and by being able to focus on something so singular and maybe I don't meditate but I've heard people talking about by Vail to clear your mind it helps them deal with everything else I think there might be some connection there but I just I just think that the removal of the noise that bombards everybody all day long even for a little bit helps you it's uh you know you you have iPod or not I Poe iPhone and head so headphones for sure right mm-hmm you ever notice like when you're listening to it you listen at the same volume level but then it just doesn't seem to be as loud so what do you do you click it up a notch right and then you get used to that volume level and then you click it up a notch and then use that volume of a receptor downgrade phenomenom your body gets used to it so it adapts to it but if you pull that stimulus out and leave it at that high volume but listen to it like two weeks later it's gonna blow your ears out mmm it'll seem loud it's not gonna blow your ears out but it's gonna seem much louder than it would if you slowly just incrementally started adding that volume so it's there's something in there that is allowing me and I'm not recommending that anybody pursue therapy via the directions that I do but there's something in there that's allowing me to instead of add an add and add an add that activity allows me to detach and then when I come back to it I realize you know it just it just feels different for me that's and I don't know if that's a good description of the mechanism but that's the best that I can probably describe it

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Length: 15min 50sec (950 seconds)

Published: Mon Feb 18 2019