Andy Stumpf was Involved in the Rescue of Jessica Lynch | Joe Rogan

the Joe Rogan experience dude I didn't know I was listening to your podcast I didn't know that you were involved in the rescue of Jessica Lynch that was the second target that we hit and the first invasion of my rack that's crazy it was an odd series of events the you know we went over there I had just finished the selection process for the East Coast command and they actually there are will be the best way to describe it there are multiple squadrons inside of that command all tasked with they're all have the same skill set but you need multiple so one can be unemployed while another one is training and the other one is resting you want to get into a you know a rotation cycle so at the end of selection an X number of people get partitioned off to each one of those and it takes time to get up to speed because the selection tactics and the way that you train or they're good but you get better as you were working with the guys with more experience specifically the real-world experience and so they pulled us out of selection about a month early and sent us over to augment the karzai detail in Afghanistan at the very tail end I mean nothing happened we basically you know you're a deterrent at that point and it's one of the worst missions because you can't it's very reactive security detail stuff you can't really do anything until somebody else does something so you're already behind the power curve it's my least favorite mission set I think but we came back from that and then the Intel started kicking off for Iraq and they sent us over to Saudi Arabia and we were there for probably somewhere between 7 to 10 days that's where I watched Bush give the speech know psalm Hussein has I think it was 24 hours to comply or turn himself in whatever it was and we had already taken a look at we knew before going over there that there were two or three objectives that we were going to look at so we had already basically planned missions that we were gonna do while we were in Virginia Beach we were planning for stuff in Iraq so we continued the planning in Saudi Arabia and the number one the first target we hit was the number one chembio target in Iraq so to do that you have to get all your [ __ ] on this it's called MOPP gear mission oriented protective posture it's like a chemical chem bio suit gas mask which compounds a lot of stuff you have all your normal anyway like those guys carrying quickie saws in a hazmat suit with a gas mask on breathing through a blower on their back overworking the blower and it's amazing how close to suffocation I've actually come inside of those gas masks it's the worst feeling ever like that you're sucking so hard for air that the mask is like stick because you're not supposed to be physically exerting yourself while you're wearing that thing there's a it's just it's harder it's be like putting them because there's a canister on the side how much weight are you carrying around in those days it was probably body weight plus 80 200 pounds Jesus Christ that was about average and it trimmed down after that because the actual amount of real world experience at that time was low and it drastically increased so you'd be like you know I think I need this pocket and then you wouldn't need it for a month like I need to get rid of this goddamn pocket because it carries sweat and my backpack hunters same kind of thing oh yeah the gear that I wore towards the end was substantially different than the gear that I ward towards the beginning I trimmed I mean I think I probably had 10 magazines on me like that first target I think the last appointment I did I would carry for four and one in the gun and no pistol so things changed over time but this just for weight just for weight and for ability to move because then I would need less food and I would need less water and I'd actually be mobile but on this target so is a four hour helicopter right in we're sitting there we have all of our MOPP gear on but not our masks and we're doing a mid-air refuel on a c-130 so you had a forty seven double you know the big double my propeller said the rotor blades on top of helicopter they're hooked up next to a c-130 in-flight refueling missile goes underneath the c-130 was like see you boys later comes out and it like the c-130 bailed when the missile flew [ __ ] yeah I don't blame him for that either they're literally a flying fuel tank but I think they had gotten enough gas and we had to hit the tanker on the way back as well but so you're just sitting there waiting for three-and-a-half you know three and three-quarter hours and about 10 minutes out you start getting your gas masks and stuff on cuz you gotta stuff that drape and you know night-vision goggles have you ever looks repair yeah your field of view sucks it's terrible it's weird which is why you notice when people who are actually using them they will all constantly have movement in their head because they're increasing their field of view and up and down and that's when you can orient them to a good offset to your eye now imagine putting a gas mask in between your eye and the lens of the night vision goggle oh Jesus so you're taking already a limited field of view and putting it into a soda straw so in mind you this is the first combat target I've ever been on so and you're 18 oh no this one need to know I went through how old are you me 42 I was in well at the time this was in 2003 I was 25 okay 25 but you you enlisted when you were really young as 17 junior in high school I signed the paperwork when I was in junior in high school East I didn't you still got to graduate and then you know continue on but uh and I was in like a third or fourth forty-seven that went in so you finally get all your stuff on you know and you have a blower on your back so there's ways that you can help the canister if you just have the canister on your mask it's a lot like breathing through a few straws shoved in your mouth if you maintain a low enough heart rate and you're totally chill you're fine but as your heart rate goes up and your demand you know for oxygen goes up you're really limited so they have you know you can put them on your back it's a blower it's a battery-powered blower that will basically push air into the mask and it gives you I would say more buffer space it's like almost like a positive pressure and if you're not doing much it's actually really nice it's just GM and air didn't face and it works well unless you put your weapon sling over the top of that tube which is exactly what I did Oh awesome oh is great it's great first experience I lost mine odds on my first target ever I went back and got him but it was a [ __ ] [ __ ] show oh it's nods night-vision goggles Oh things that you need to see at night and we'll get in trouble for if you lose that's terrible so we come in number one chem bio target in Iraq and we had looked at it from the perspective of like air conditioning specialists in wind you know from architects to what we could encounter on the ground potential threats satellite imagery of historical stuff and we get there and by the time I even got on the ground there was already a firefight going on the helicopter that I was in had 27 rounds come through the helicopter not a single person was hurt like guys are like reaching up to like scratch their ass and like around would come through and dismiss everybody Jesus Christ I take that back the door gunner standing next to me got shot right in the head and about a minute out that was my first exposure to combat just over in helicopter lands and you go and by the time I got to the front door of that structure I was probably as close to be an unconscious due to asphyxiation as I often M doing gettin choked out like the world it's just coming down and it instantaneously we could tell that it was a agricultural school like the intelligence was so horribly and incredibly off when it came to that so I just ripped my mask off at some point because I would have rather died from whatever horrendous disease could have been in there then suffocated and then you know we cleared through it and I knocked my night-vision goggles off with a sledgehammer I had to go back it was a [ __ ] show so we get back from that the next morning we wake up and I remember having a cup of coffee with a buddy of mine I was like hey man I don't think we're gonna get out of this if things keep going like they did last night and shortly after that a few days after that we got word that Jessica had been captured so we forward staged and went up to Nigeria and the information that we had going into the hospital is that it was a Fed I mean hotbed like 50 to 500 people was the expected amount of resistance that we could have and we can fit 27 people in helicopter so that's what we launched with in the back of our head and fortunately we didn't meet any resistance inside of the structure and it actually was kind of business as usual looking back like there was nothing exciting about that target whatsoever people in the modern day if they were to action that target now with the experience that they have that you wouldn't even register on the radar scope the amount the little or the little amount of resistance that was encountered outside it just would be another day at the office but there was a public story of that and then there was a lot of dispute about whether or not that was accurate there was a like I remember she actually she's cleared up a lot of it she well she was not responsible for a lot of the things that were said because she was deep into the repatriation process into I mean her she's [ __ ] up to this day when I met sat down I probably get to sit across the table she had never sat down and talked to somebody who was there it was when did you meet her I went out again yeah I have yes yeah it was one of the earlier episodes I don't know where she didn't even know you had her on so she told her side of the story I told my side of the story and we were able to like my gaps and we set the table just like this and she still wears a brace she came and gave me a huge hug I mean I didn't know what to expect what happened to her physically um man I don't have the exact details but from my understanding the vast majority of her injuries came from when her Humvee wrecked I do not believe she was buckled or strapped in so she got just pounded and she was not treated well you know it's guys are gonna get the same I mean bottom line you're gonna get raped if you're a male or a female really oh yeah for sure and you captured oh yeah you're going to for sure if you're a male or a female if you're a male or a female you're you're you're not gonna have a good go of it for sure and again I'm not an exact expert on what happened specifically with her but from my understanding she experienced that as well as all the other medical issues but when we she was in bad shape when we pulled her out of the hospital for sure but then so and I remember there were two people with us that were carrying video cameras and there was a little bit of footage that was taken from that like when she was in the hospital bed in the hospital and a lot the rest of it was from the cameras on the helicopters and some you know the sensors overhead but the narrative from that not a word was said by anybody that was there executing that objective or from her and I think my hypothesis is you know we were a month into that war a lot of that war was based on we need to go rid this country in this dictator of their WMDs we hadn't found any from PR perspective wise it wasn't probably going as well as they wanted it to do and they wanted to have a PR victory but the stuff that was said the stuff that made the news all this stuff that got blown out of proportion none of that came from the people that were actually there it came from all those layers on top what was blown up because I'm trying to remember I remember some of the first reports they were saying that she was going to be first female Medal of Honor recipient that she had fought until she had her you know she expended her last round and then was finally overtaken and he talked to her and she or she never even loaded her weapon or weapons and she never said that she fought you know I mean I remember people talking about she never said any of that what do you think was doing that was that the government's PR I think people are often in a rush to talk in an educated manner about things they know nothing about hmm I mean it takes time to to understand the details of what happened she was not in a headspace to give a debrief you know she was literally being flown probably to Germany for her first round of countless surgeries and she's gonna need to spend time with a therapist and a counselor I would assume she would obviously can't speak for but they're gonna you know they're gonna want to do it robust medical treatment and that's really not the time to dive into the details of her exact actions and we left the next morning and flew into Baghdad like three days later like it was just another day on the job and you were off and running you just had it was cool because it was the first rescue of US POWs since World War two and so the rescue of her was she was rescued from the hospital correct and so they had abused her and then taken her to a hospital I get a little granny on the details of what happened in between the wreck and when we picked her up because there are conflicting narratives there are there are I don't know what the correct word would be stories or there are reports that they attempted to put her into an ambulance and bring her back to US forces but at that same time the Fedayeen were using ambulances as basically military fighting vehicles so they said that when they tried to do that the ambulance was shot at which makes sense if there was a trend of people using an ambulance as a military vehicle that would make sense and they would get turned around so they might have tried to bring her back you know that hospital was being used as a fitting staging point because they're I mean they're not dumb people they understand we're not gonna likely bomb hospitals or religious structures so use them to their military advantage Wow Wow and this is your second your second real yep Wow crazy it's great that mean that story was a giant store yep in in the media about the war and people trying to sort out what was true versus what was the you know the publicity narrative I would say on average take 90% of what you hear off the top 90% [Applause]

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