Andy Stumpf Gets Honest About Navy Seal Training | Joe Rogan

the Joe Rogan experience unless you're a sociopath you know and then you know there's issues with that as well they're out there they are out there man I know a few they I went to I went through buds with a sociopath the water man of my buds class is still in jail for chopping people up and then disposing of their bodies with his wife really yeah who are they chopping up I don't know the people but they would bring people back from I know it happened at least once it might have happened multiple times but they would go to bars find a couple continue the after-party afterwards elicit and argument some type of exchange they killed I believe was a man and a woman chopped him up he used to work at a grocery store chain so he knew that they the very cyclically removing of the garbage cans there they got you know just ten cent to the landfill more often so he disposed of the body bodies in multiple grocery store garbage dumpsters and then they eventually got caught because in the middle of the night they broke into a Hooters distill t-shirts and cut copy the cops and I believe it was in her purse they found a spider code a knife with like hair and like basically tissue still on the knife and I think the woman's ID whoa you know high-level criminal they really thought this one through and that's the only way they got caught that's how they got caught and I imagine if they didn't break into Hooters yeah of course well first off why the [ __ ] are you breaking into Hooters Reacher knife you dirty [ __ ] but again so this is you know sociopaths out there and this is another thing that I try to tell people often the best people that I ever was around in my entire life was in the seal community and my mortal enemies and the worst people I've ever seen on the face of the earth was in the seal community as well he was the honor man in my buds class which if I look back it's they he had he had passed more evolutions from a statistical perspective than anybody else in the class they weren't actually viewing him through the lens of is this person honorable or does he you know they weren't grading him by his integrity but it just goes to show you that no selection process is perfect and if you can't separate an individual from an occupation or a uniform or a black belt right if you think that because you have a black belt that you're gonna be an awesome person or because somebody is a seal they're gonna be a great person stand the [ __ ] by mmm and it's not the norm right I'm not I'm not I don't want him as the anomaly to paint the norm but it's important for people to remember that those people are out there and again they can leverage from my background they can leverage the fascination the curiosity people wanting to give back I mean one of those common questions that I get from people is you know how can I thank people for their service and well hey just say thank you and then on my answer them is be is you know provide them an opportunity if you feel it's necessary but don't allow them don't do anything for them and don't give them any special treatment make them earn it hmm because then you can get a true look at the individual as opposed to perhaps just a shiny object that you were focusing on before interesting so treat them as an individual thank them but treat them as an individual and judge them based on the merits of their behavior and their worth 100% not over merits of their background if you have a job you know you like hey I want to provide opportunities for veterans no problem provide the opportunities for veterans but treat them exactly like the person who is in the cubicle next to them if it's in that environment obviously and if you hold the person that was a non vet turn to a certain standard you better hold the veterans at the same standard don't let them get away with anything because it it doesn't help them either right you know it it helps everybody in the organization if you set the standard and make sure everybody holds it it's insidious to an organization to set a standard and well why is this guy getting special treatment like sh wad dude he was a seal gives a [ __ ] it's just a job title and if that person is sociopathic or they are you know there's a bell-curve there's a top 10% and and the the the top and the bottom 10% if he's in that bottom 10% by holding them to that standard you're gonna get an objective viewpoint of that as opposed to just being blinded by whatever it may be it's interesting but only you can say that or someone in your position can say that it's very difficult for someone who's a non veteran to say anything remotely close to that well I hope they listen then because they don't need to say that they just need to if they need to just live that they need to structure their organization with that framework so its objective not subjective there's it's like people look at being a seal it's not a Harry Potter wand I have probably a familiarity and comfort with weapons and tactics more than your average person but if I'm being completely honest about my old job I could teach a monkey to do most of the things that I do I'm serious I could teach a monkey to do the things that we did it's not we're not out there doing nuclear physics you're out there doing you know we find an individual how are we gonna get there okay let's figure out how we're gonna get there we train to those standards we get on target everything is based on tactics and standard operating procedures or TTP's tactics techniques and procedures and everybody is trained to those standards so you know what to expect from somebody whether they're from an East Coast team or a West Coast team you can meet in the middle and we all are taught to clear rooms the same way and it's just it's it's not complicated actually the blade of make us less effective and efficient would be to make it complicated the simpler that you can make it the better you're gonna be mmm that makes sense I mean it makes but it's also the mind of a seal like the type of person that can get through buds that's that's complicated that's complicated in just being able to control your mind you know one of the things that you said and one of the one of times you talked about it was someone who's able to keep their world small we're in Utah yeah I'm I toss an interesting way of looking at it keep your world small like people that applies to what's happening right now - mmm so what you're talking about you know buds is a physical test you're actually I would say having gone back as an instructor which I learned much more about the process applying the curriculum as opposed to going through it because as a student you're just like ah I want this day to be over as an instructor you can kind of and you also don't really know what you're going to do the next day as a student as an instructor I can look at the entire curriculum in the story arc of where you start on day one and the product you're gonna get at the end it's a physical test but we're using the body to test the mind we're stressing the body we're gonna make you tired hungry hypothermic we're gonna get you so exhaust to the point that you're gonna hallucinate and we're gonna take a look at how you behave do you value we over me you know one of the first things they do in buds you're explain the concept of this one buddy and you don't get to go anywhere farther than six feet away from another human being for that six-month time period that is the opposite of most people's mentality and you can test it early on you yell at them and you'll say hey you've got 30 seconds to go run up to the ocean and get wet and in the first few days they just take off and they start running because they forgot about their swim buddy their me centric and so you bring them back and you punish them the individual that made that choice and then also this one buddy you know to reinforce that people there are consequences to other people from your behaviors and after about two weeks you really can't separate people from their swim buddies so it's a lesson and it's at a beginning point where you can instill this philosophy of we as greater than me and it's one of the most beautiful things I think from the seal community if you talk to people or my experience has been as is in talking to people in their most dire moments where things are getting the worst they're often more concerned about the people to their left and right than they are about himself my biggest fear probably I know what it was in the seal community but to this day is that I am NOT gonna be there when somebody needs me I was my biggest fear in the seal community that I wasn't gonna live up to this standard at the people to the left and right held at me and then they were gonna suffer for it I was more concerned about letting them down than myself getting hurt or killed and that starts with that ethos from SEAL training but it's not a complicated course we're stressing the body to stress the mind and if you look at the people who make it through so when I went back as an instructor as a student when you're going through training if somebody next to you quits you never see them again like there's no hey dude what the [ __ ] are you doing like they're just gone and you continue on with your day because you just want to graduate the program as an instructor you can talk to those people and you can ask really important questions my favorite question is why you said you this was your lifelong goal this is all you've ever wanted to do you left a d1 scholarship to come here because you saw no yourself no value in the higher education and he wanted to come to the seal community and you quit why time and time and time again the answer I would get from the students as they got overwhelmed so they were doing the opposite of keeping their world small because there's two ways you can look at Budds it's a hundred eighty days long I think plus or minus one or two or you could look at it as a sunrise and a sunset one hundred eighty times so you could look at a pie and go oh my god I have to eat this whole thing or you can look at a slice and eat the slice and not worry about the rest of the slices and keep doing that in doing that until the training process is complete hell week is another good example it starts Sunday in the evening and ends Friday in the afternoon and you get about two hours of sleep on Wednesday that's it it's horrendous to go through and it's pretty entertaining as an instructor because you can just totally [ __ ] with the students because they're off their rocker by Tuesday afternoon but almost all of the attrition occurs from Sunday night until I'd say Tuesday morning and beyond that you're probably gonna make it through because you've invested so much but the advice that I was given when I went through was don't look at how weak as a five-day pipeline just make it to your next meal they have to feed you every six hours so if I can stack six hours on six hours and six hours and just focus on getting to the next meal it doesn't matter how much I'm in pain doesn't matter how cold I am if I can just get to the next meal get a reprieve a mental reset and I can continue on that's that in combination with some you know the mental toughness is how you approach and set your goals and then resilience and my definition of resilience would be the ability to get bent and come back stronger than you were before the way you do that is by bending yourself as often as possible which you do all the time by running sprints or you know I mean you're doing that stuff you're mentally tough because of that and if you can apply that resilience to approaching setting and approaching your goals from digestible perspectives you can accomplish in the same amount so that's really what I mean it's a physical test but we're just testing the mind can the individual ignore the big and focus on the small can you do the step that you need to do and not get overwhelmed regardless if you're tired exhausted hungry cold I mean that's really all it is it's not a complex training program there's the ocean there's the beach there's some telephone poles there's some boats and then later on we introduce scuba gear and towards the tail end of it you know some demolition and pistol and rifle how many days can you stay awake for where it becomes vision your health yeah I don't know it's dangerous for their health inhale weak what the students probably don't realize is there is a huge safety network for them you don't see it as a student because you're so just tasks saturated there are MDS walking around all over the place there's people constantly you know we're checking the temperature of the water will take core body temperatures on the students we're keeping a very good eye and we're buffering them because by about Wednesday they're brain-dead I don't know how well you can stay awake without suffering some severe physical consequence so they literally get 2 hours of sleep in the whole week you might get a little bit at break time you know there's a it's actually on the wall at the buds compound it pays to be a winner and the inverse of that is incredibly true it does not pay to be a loser in the SEAL community and for clarity loser is anything other than first place and the community that I came from the podium has one platform not three so if you win you might get 15 minutes off while we're hammering the [ __ ] out of the rest of the class so if you win a task if you win a task I can hell week you'll ask such as about beaucoup race is a perfect one I'm Jamie can pull up the picture its buds hell week boat crew race and there'll be students running with boats on their heads and people get bald spots from it and we'll do races like hey take that boat that's supposed to be in the ocean and you're gonna run with it on your head as a crew of seven people three people on each side and the leader in the back and at the end of four miles we'll be done with this the winning boat crew will will get a little break and then losing boat crews will get remediated four miles vote on your head yeah you know why because it's fun to paddle it in the water and you can surf it so [ __ ] you yep yeah that look at that neck on that front right guy just but don't do short races they'll do long ones and how much that boat way well that's a good question um it looks inflatable it is it's an IBS inflatable boat but still probably 150 200 pounds and then you gotta imagine sometimes there's water sloshing around in there sometimes it's sand there because we do let him paddle they'll do races where they have to run go out past the surf zone flip the boat over for no reason other than it's difficult and it forces them to get wet right the boat come back in continue the race but so if you win that you might get you know 15 minutes while we're mediating the class and we know what's gonna happen in that 15 minutes you see people sleeping standing up you see people face down in a high lick track in the sand sleeping they're sitting there sleeping and it's kind of just a reward and you just Lee Malone see what I'm sleep for 15 minutes give you a little bit yeah wake up [ __ ] pretty much talk to work get right back on that ocean Wow five days of that yeah hmm and it's earned about people in that you learn a lot and you see people push to the point where do you care about me over week and we get rid of the people who cannot prioritize we over me mmm damn arrogance comes out you see it a lot in the the leadership as well you know the students are largely the same like from a physiological perspective there's ones that are faster runners and from a contractile potential like more stamina or cardio respiratory endurance but most of them are the same it's like probably like a 3% difference between the students but these little pods of seven people some of them can work together and they're just crushing it and other ones you'll see you know there's oars in the boat so when they run they're stuffed on the top and you'll see they'll be out paddling and then you'll just see a sword fights start with people just knocking each other's heads off with oars oh [ __ ] yeah because look I mean imagine how exhausted you are you are so exposed in raw so suppressed as a human being like from all the physical tools that we have that the real person comes out and sometimes boat crews will just eject a person able hate that person so much because they're they might be selfish or arrogant or and they're not pulling their weight and they will just harp on that person or beat the [ __ ] out of a person eventually they'll end up quitting now when they do get in a sword fight what do you do do you kick them out if they get in sword fights would you let them sort it out I'm a little sore tit out plus they're out of the water and I'm not going one out there 100 times you're watching it through by nose [Applause]

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Published: Sat Mar 21 2020

Reddit Comments

[u/froggy184]

This is great advice regarding the manipulation of time. Adjusting your time horizons based on circumstances is a very useful ability.

[u/Sirloin_Tips]

Not really into this type of stuff but I love listening to this dude.

Rogan is OK sometimes too.

[u/Cockster55]

I can imagine the instructors laughing m just watching two students beating each other with oars out in the water

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Thats fucking awesome

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