Real Navy SEAL on What War Movies Get Wrong | Joe Rogan and Andy Stumpf

what is it about war movie that driving the most crazy the fact that almost everything in them isn't accurate almost everything biggest thing that drives me [ __ ] crazy is when grenades create a fireball really well yeah cuz it happens in like every movie they throw a grenade and a 55-gallon drum of gasoline explodes right and people go flying backwards and cars flip over if you throw a grenade it goes pop and it puts some dust up in the air and if you're waiting for the fireball you're gonna be there for the rest of your natural life it's just not good and they're not that effective they're fun don't get me wrong but they're not that effective I did not know that they don't like create a fireball no I've never seen a grenade go off obviously I'm sure Jamie can pull one up but just because it's dust it's all I've seen one in the video I'm sure for a moment like the momentary explosion there's a flash but other than that it's literally just dust flying up in the air what what is the best military movie that's the most accurate or the least offensive Navy SEALs starring Charlie Sheen really no not at all oh Christ that [ __ ] guy probably thought more people into coming to the SEAL Teams than anybody else really oh my god really yeah I mean he's falling through skylights with mp5s and handlebar mustaches you know there's snipers calling himself god I can't see anything I'm switching to starlight blasting people through a concrete wall they're doing freefall jumps are in submarines like that's an entire 30-year career to do all that [ __ ] in 60 minutes you take that expectation you come to the team's like I'm kind of bored right now so was that the war areas bang bang I'm gonna run boys yep I'm gonna make it and he's got the the the requisite scarf around the neck and first I'll have one of those so what kind of [ __ ] wears a red scarf in an environment where there's no red yeah it's got green utility is on from Vietnam wearing a red the Shamal yeah this is so hilarious so another one especially when you know Charlie now like such a [ __ ] psychotic partier and so apparently apparently so they came to the buds compound and did a little bit of training with the guys and I guess there was some bathroom breaks and they just like alright you guys ready for some more PT oh really that makes sense I've obviously hearing that eighteenth hand but I want to believe it's true well you know who I hear trains diligently and really hard and it like takes it super seriously and it's like one of the most humble guys you ever be he's Keanu Reeves that doesn't surprise me yeah it doesn't surprise me either but I heard some people that have had interacted with him when he was training for John wick yeah including my jujitsu instructor John Jacques Machado my friend he gave Machado's John Jack's brother and a bunch of other he worked out with a bunch of their Machado's in fact I think Carlos as well but you know he really wanted to learn actual jujitsu so he trained with them yeah he did real tactical courses and and so his his tactical proficiency shows in that movie and so to get back to stuff that bothers me it's the 72 round pistol magazine County I'm like that's 15 25 30 or the shotgun that has 48 rounds it's so that I can't do it I'm like throwing stuff at the TV my wife just points she says get out like like so Sicario I love Sicario there's a scene at the border that has one of the most blatant just errors in the movie there's a guy pointing a gun he's supposedly a CIA agent he's pointing a gun out the windshield and you can see that the bolt to the rifle is locked to the rear oh no which means the armored onset handed it to him you know clear and safe and he just went and they filmed it and nobody caught it and I saw that movie I'm like turn that [ __ ] off I can't watch it of course yeah it ruins it for me now why don't they fix stuff like that you would think that you're making a movie about military or about guns like yeah gun nuts are gonna notice that they but they probably didn't catch it in the editing process it's probably up there for three seconds but if you know I mean I you look at a gun and like you just if it was your primary tool for years you're gonna you're looking for certain things all the time yes here we go look first someone who doesn't know though it looks super serious well that's why they're still watching the movie and I yep bolt to the rear ah yeah up to the rear yeah go ahead and pull the trigger there go ahead son obviously an empty magazine yeah hey silly yeah so nobody caught that in the editing process is what it is not see that no don't you think they digitally could have moved that forward a 100% could move because he didn't fire in that scene anyway yeah I just pushed that [ __ ] up just Photoshop that way less significant thing I get crazy when I watch people play pool in movies that obviously can't play oh I tried nuts yes drives me nuts like if I see someone like it's supposed to be some pool hustler and I see so they of a [ __ ] bridge in their hand they're gripping like you can see things in movies like my friends who smoke cigarettes say they can tell when someone doesn't smoke oh for sure yeah because like when you smoke there's just like a casual relaxed way that you're holding the cigarette and the way you're drawn it but when someone's like never smoked before look yeah they've got this weird thing they're doing like how that guy doesn't really smoke like how the [ __ ] can you tell it because I smoke it's like another thing that bugs me as you watch and any tactical scene where they're like moving down a hallway and it's like why is your gun pointed at your buddy's face like that's not cool why are you aiming a strike and then the way that they make entry into rooms it's like awesome I like to play Russian roulette with my life as well like it drives me absolutely what about zero dark thirty that movie [ __ ] sucks what sucks about it you know what drove me crazy that that time do we have that redhead lady wood is yelling at all those trained killers I was like I don't think they'd listen to her there are some creative liberties that are taken in that movie from soup to nuts I mean like was that person the lady who yelled at those guys the one that the woman who's in charge was that a real human in real life it was based off of a real human for sure like a lot of the things in that movie were based on real events however if you're trying to get tickets to get people's seats you know their butts and seats mm-hmm you get a glamorized stuff right so a lot of people because in that movie you know the the source drives up in the vehicle and detonates himself that actually happened that killed a bunch of people and cows if as long as you look at it as entertainment that movies okay if you look at it with a refined I like are they doing this correctly no mmm they're all gonna die yeah I mean it's uh it just I we would need another four hours to literally go down the list of things but it's just things are compressed things that would never happen happen for the sake of creating an intoxicating or a emotional scene on camera and it's tough to watch because I'm sitting I'm like you know the door get out the door get out the door I'm getting anxiety watching these damn movies oh because you don't hang out in front of open doors unless you want to get shot now how many different things were [ __ ] up about that movie only the things that were after the opening scene yeah it's just dumb ass like myself that's a good [ __ ] movie seems pretty realistic well think about it from entertainment it's a great entertaining movie right it asks the same question about the movie American sniper or lone survivor they're all based around certain things that have been enhanced to make it more entertaining yes and I get it they're there to make money they're not there to tell historically accurate do you know Marcus I do not know Marcus well but I do know Marcus I know him I don't know how he felt I don't know if you'd ever say he was making a movie yeah but I mean I'm sure they only listened to him so much you know yeah given how I can again having not been there and I can only imagine how horrific that incident must be for him to deal with on a daily level I would bet he wasn't very involved I would almost rather them if that was me I think I would almost rather say you know what just make the movie that you want to make because I don't want to sit here and explain exactly what happened and recreate these scenes and talk about how this person died over here like I would just go you know go to is there any movie that you've ever seen about war where you go that that makes sense first ten minutes of Saving Private Ryan is unbelievable Wow not for accuracy for capturing the essence of what it feels like and the switch between utter fear to excitement to joy to anger in the matter of a second another movie that does a good aspect or a good job of capturing capturing some of those aspects I would say is also Black Hawk Down not for accuracy but to capture the chaos that have how a plan can come unraveled and how just how chaotic it can be and hence how sometimes you can feel so helpless but your only solution is to drive into the problem instead of moving away from it so those those capture the essence of it well from a technical perspective I honestly cannot think of a single movie that does it justice Wow it would have to be like a 50 hour movie though because of course I mean Black Hawk Down I think was a multiple day incident in that movies 90 minutes right so they get rid of all the the boring BS stuff that is actually what you do the vast majority of your job if I look at my career probably greater than 95 percent of my career I spent training and 5% I spent in combat really yep and that is that's average I would say there are people who are maybe a little bit higher and people who are a little bit lower but you're not gonna spend more than at most maybe 10% of your career in combat even if your job is directly tied to combat because you had a train you got to plan the missions I mean on our normal planning cycle was 24 to 72 hours sitting in front of power point considering whether or not I should hang myself or blow my brains out because we're arguing over the font that we're using to submit for mission approval really oh you're studying the weather you're studying the terrain I've had slides and mission briefs sent back not be approved because I didn't orient the helicopter the correct direction on the slide they're like hey you need to fix this and then resubmit it like if you wanted to shut down the average day military it wouldn't be through a kinetic act you would need to put some type of code into Microsoft Office and we're done because we operate on Microsoft PowerPoint Microsoft Word and Microsoft Office we'd sit there and we'd plan and we would brief and we'd submit for approval that's three days then you'd go do an objective that would last for 10 hours repeat the cycle on to 8dd for that it's what will you break up the tasks so each look usually the last thing you would want is one person creating the entire plan so somebody's doing the communication plan the medevac plan the insertion plan the route planning you we don't ever really brief what we're gonna do inside of the objective because that's kind of the soup and nuts that you train for at all times like that's everything is to get there and then okay that's actually our job but we focus on all those other things then primary secondary tertiary plan for each one of those things phase lines for each one of those things none of that has ever shown up in any movie what doesn't show up in any movies is vast majority of time the intelligence is bad and you hit what's called a dry hole you go to a building you approach the structure you breach the door and it's just the intelligence is wrong it's either empty or it's the wrong person that happens all the time that doesn't it's not exciting though so we pay the people money they fix their door and we go back and we try to find a person again none of that shows up in any of the mediums because it's too they're too compressed

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Length: 12min 20sec (740 seconds)

Published: Mon Feb 18 2019

Reddit Comments

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I think you can get someone from any profession to tell what movies do wrong.

Get a programmer to cringe about Hollywood's depiction of computer hacking.
Get a relationship therapist cringe at a guy being persistent after being told "no" multiple times by his crush. Get an MI5 spy to cringe at James Bond.

And so on and so forth.

It's almost like movies aren't reality but just a projection.

[u/cantCommitToAHobby]

Regarding the infinite rounds magazine, this guy recommends changing magazines during dialogue, so that it doesn't get edited out: https://www.forces.net/military-life/ex-para-adding-authenticity-military-movies