Motherboard Default settings could be COOKING your CPU!

I don't understand why this continues to be a problem in 2024 but we're going to talk to you today about your CPU and motherboard combination might be trying to kill itself on purpose nxt's BL is a quick and easy way to get a new gaming computer build a gaming PC on your budget using the built-in configurator which now includes Intel's 14th gen CPUs featuring faster cores with increased core counts and speeds up to 6 GHz for an overall better gaming experience don't want to build it yourself then choose from bl's preconfigured player PC systems built with performance and various budgets in mind to see the full lineup and specs of the NZXT build player series pre-built PCS follow the sponsored Link in the description below so what I'm referring to right here uh specifically is optimized defaults in motherboards the reason why I'm even making this video I've talked about it in the past but it continues to be a problem that's been ongoing since like I want to say the 7th gen 8th gen Intel era now this isn't an Intel problem it's just because Intel CPUs are like unlocked and overclocked pretty much for all the SKS unless it doesn't have a K in fact there's less non overclocking SKS or unlocked SK than there are locked SKS like the locked SKS are the rare ones these days but anyway moving on um Asus seems to be the biggest offender but pretty much every motherboard company has some sort of an optimized like algorithm they've put together through all of their testing that says these CPUs on average can overclock about this far and get away with this much additional power limit this much additional voltage limit this much additional temperature Etc what the reason why I'm making this video though is not just because of the fact that this continues to go on even though I'm I we'll get to it I've got so much more to cover in this video and I don't want to have it be a 45-minute video but I'm getting emails from people still saying I don't understand I've got a 360 mm cooler I've got a 280 mm cooler on a 13700 K and my CPU is running 100c what the hell is going on and then they'll send me a screenshot from like hardware monitor or something and I can see like one .48 volts on their CPU and every single time it's the same story they never touched anything in their motherboard heck not even enabling XMP a lot of people don't even know to enable XMP so what you're getting here are out of the box default settings that are automatically applying not just a potential overclock of 100 to 200 MHz per CP you know per EC cor and P core on its own because of optimized defaults but an extreme lift of all of the voltage and amp and turbo timer settings when it comes to Intel so this video is specifically going to be for Intel this doesn't really happen on AMD CPUs um not so much because AMD CPUs are so finicky they they actually can't push them as nearly as far as you can with Intel stuff so what I've got sitting right here is an Intel 13900 K but what here's what I'm going to show right here I'm going to hit I I have settings that have been applied for other videos we're going to ignore that what I'm going to show is F5 which is load optimized defaults there's some very important verbiage there it does not say load Intel defaults it says load optimize defaults which means the defaults of the BIOS and that motherboard for that particular CPU see what happens is the CPU and the motherboard talk to each other they identify right and then so what happens is um the mother motherboard is able to say oh based on this CPU these are the types of settings we tend to push so I've reset the optimized default Asus multicore enhancement that is above and beyond anything from Intel that is an Asus applied settings change in the Bios it says Auto let bios optimize the problem with let bios optimize is it's going to automatically go in here and start changing some settings so if we come down in here to internal CPU power management 360 amps uh 154 watt long power package limit 253 watt short duration power package limit so that's that's actually the Intel settings right there so I've just rebooted with the let bios optimize so you can tell now by the fact that our DM frequency is back down to 4.8 etc etc um I'm going to go down to our power limits once again CP power management yeah so do you see how they went up you see that right so we went from 253 Watts that's our long duration power limit but it's going to try and pull basically 495 watts is unlimited 511 amps initially it was 316 or something like that 311 somewhere around there so essentially the auto feature or the default which is the way this motherboard will boot cuz default is auto let bios optimize removes the Intel limits period my major gripe with this is the motherboard manufacturers need to load the Intel limits by default it leads people to thinking something is wrong with their thermal paste or something is wrong with their cooler when they go to load a test like cine bench CU they see us do it and they want to compare and then they see 100 C instantly and throttling so let me go ahead and boot into the BIOS real quick so that or not the BIOS but the see said I I I don't know if you saw it but I just said F10 exit and it's like no changes were made because that's the way it rebooted with those new ridiculous limits in place so what I'm going to be looking for right now is how much voltage is our CPU going to be trying to now now this is also a thing that has become a point of contention between the CPU manufacturers and the motherboard manufacturers and the reviewers is the motherboard manufacturers always say the motherboard never provides More Voltage than the CPU asks for and that's complete horseshit it always seems to if that wasn't the case how can we go in and change voltage in the settings how can we go in there and set a voltage the BIOS is optimiz iing its own voltage which is airing on the side of stability which is shove as much voltage down its throat as you can and let it slow down so it doesn't die then you're not getting the performance that you're paying for so then you have a big ass cooling system to try and keep very poorly up to my settings acceptable and then you just lose performance and you paid money for stuff that you're not getting which is the full performance of your CPU so this is cinebench R23 it's a free tool you can download if you want to follow along with this video and see what your CPU is doing this is also hardware monitor by CPU ID which gives us the visibility of all the stuff happening all the sensors in our system we can keep an eye on our frequency right here as you can see we are we do have a core running at 5.8 GHz on single core which is exactly what we expect to see with the Intel stuff 5.5 GHz all core and then our e cores are down here at 4.3 I think I said 3.7 earlier I actually mixed up the specs of like the 13700 or the 13600 the 4.3 is the EC cor um max turbo limit or ratio for the 13900 K so what we're looking for here is obviously our temperatures on our cores but more importantly this guy right here VOR is sitting at 1305 now that's not necessarily a problem Intel does the same thing AMD does which is for ultimate stability with fluctuating workloads that are not 100% put More Voltage that way as this Dynamic frequency range is changing on the CPU it doesn't run into stability problems that's normal I see people all the time that go my CPU is running 1.4 gz something's wrong just sitting at the desktop it's like that's perfect well I see people all the time messaging me saying oh my God my CPU is running at 1.4 volt sitting on the desktop doing nothing idle it's it's trying to kill itself it's like no actually it's it's not hurting it whatsoever look at our temps we're in the 20s right so everything's fine right there and it dropped all the way down to 1.19 for a second but anyway um let's just run a loop shall we let's see what our VOR goes to underload 1323 we're at 88c on the package instantly and I have a 360 aiio which in my opinion is far far too warm now sure we might be sitting here on mid 80s on the peores and upper 60s and mid 70s on the eor this room is like 62° f right now this is not this is not a warm room whatsoever so already it's getting a little bit of a help by the fact that the ambient temperature in this room is pretty it's like chilled it's chilly in here right it's it's still cold right now but our voltage is running 1.2 88 and we're still at 5.5 GHz all core now I just heard it slowed down we should end up dropping on frequency here shortly we're at 320 Watts so after a few seconds here we should see this drop down to that much lower 10 whatever watt setting or actually it should drop down to 253 Watts cuz that's what it showed but check this out 91c so far is what we've hit on the package 91c that is pretty ridiculous look we now have 90 our Max core is at 91c that's core 7 right here we got a hot core there our colder core is 81 we have a huge swing between hot and cold on certain certain cores all right so now we just slowed down to 23.5 Watts because we've hit our turbo timer look at our tempts now 7 7 mid 70s on the Pees low mid and upper 60s on the E cores and our clocks dropped from 5.5 down to 5.2 there it is right there 5.1 5.2 it's an interesting test cuz at the end of the test there's 5.1 again it stops load for us just like a second and then goes back so that load drop kind of freaks out that turbo timer for a second but our eor dropped all the way down to 4.1 what if I told you if I went into the Intel limits we would uh and then if I just manually change that second number from One whatever 100 some odd Watts on after 56 seconds to 253 Watts which is stock by having proper cooling we could keep our clock speeds and these temperatures okay so I went into my bio so I disabled the disabling of the limits or the removing of the limits so I have disabled to enable the limits yeah yeah so anyway this now is all Intel settings so I'm also going to leave internal ad adaptive boost technology share was leave that on auto that's fine AI overclock this would be for XMP but I I had it off before so I'll leave it off now and if we come down here to our internal power management you can see now 360 amps 253 Watt and 253 watt which is funny because we think it might be an I9 setting or feature where the before and after uh if the cooler gets at least decent prediction it might turn that off but uh it's it means it's just going to run 253 Watts the entire time so what that means now is if my if my calculations are correct we should see that 77 Celsius on our CPU the entire time so the first thing I'd like to point out on VOR is it's it's currently idling at 1314 is where it was but it drops all the way down to 1.012 that's just because it doesn't have some stupid crazy amp limit in there cuz amps and volts are directly Watts amps and volts they're all directly related they're they're calculation right so you can determine what one of those three numbers is by knowing the other two numbers so by having the amps be set super high it goes oh we got a lot of voltage available to us even though we don't have a lot of wattage we have a lot available voltage to us so it could start pumping the volts really high but now that it's back to the default 360 amps which is the the max amount of amperage allowed on the Intel specs the volts are going to come down but watch what happens when we start our test [Music] 71 72 look our volts 1.1 199 now the frequency came down slightly at 5.2 and then five or 4.1 on the ecores and that right there we can just go in and actually just play with the multiplier so our score though right there was a 37,6 like that's because of the fact that we had the reduced clock speed so if we get back to the 5.5 we'll be up at like 38 39,000 so let's do that real quick so looking in the AV AVX instruction uh page on here you can see it actually has a zero offset and it's showing 5.5 so realistically the the overall clock speed came down because that was how it had to control the wattage to keep the Watts at 253 where it limits itself is actually in the cork clock because of the fact that the volts were already I guess as low as it felt like it could go and this is where Vol voltage tweaking would really come in and be handy now this behavior is actually actually acting exactly as Intel is intended what happens is the motherboard manufacturers say no we want to make it you know stronger so they go in there and they adjust these these you know particular defaults if you will and every motherboard manufacturer is different you could take I could take the same CPU off this Asus board and put on a gigabyte board and get different behavior on an MSI board get different behavior and on an azrock board and get different Behavior they would be the it's just whatever the motherboard manufacturers program to their defaults I'm not going to go in here and do fullon like core clock control because I tend to actually run the um xmp1 on here and because I have decent enough cooling I tend to come in here and do the where' It Go the AI overclocker I forgot where it is it's in here somewhere and then the AI overclocking tends to actually get us like 6 GHz single core and about five 5.56 all core on there and that's going to be based on everyone's different motherboard uh configurations their CPU their cooler their environment how how hot the room the computer in matters so I wanted to make this video and put it out there if you're seeing extremely hot temperatures and you can't explain why you're like I've got good thermal paste I've got a really good cooler I've got lots of air flow in my case and every single time I run cine bench or some other stress test I'm getting 95 100 C on my Intel CPU what the hell is going on I guarantee you the problem is not your CPU or your cooler it's probably your motherboard settings so do yourself a favor go in at least find where the Intel limits are enable those limits and then see if your problems go away but this is something that needs to stop this needs to stop happening on motherboards it has been happening for like the last six or seven generations of Intel right now where motherboard manufacturers are by default enabling way too high of a limit which also increases the voltage which increases the temperature for no reason whatsoever it it is my personal belief that the settings on a motherboard out of the box without touching anything should always always follow the limits of the CPU that is installed period end of story no motherboard manufacturer will ever be able to convince me otherwise they shouldn't be able to convince you either so if you've been dealing with tons of weird temperature fluctuations in your system start here by looking at your bios all right guys thanks for watching sound off down below if you've dealt with this I'm sure you probably have or maybe you are dealing with it right now and you have no idea until this video also share this video with someone that you think might benefit from learning about these settings all right guys thanks for watching and as always we'll see you in the next one

Channel: JayzTwoCents

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Keywords: motherboard, motherboard settings, bios settings, bios auto overclock, motherboard too much votlage, motherboard over voltage, intel cpu overvolt, why is my intel cpu so hot, why is my intel cpu hot, intel cpu, intel, 12900, 12900k, 13900k, 14900k, 13700k, 12600k

Id: s43Auv8ub7w

Length: 15min 33sec (933 seconds)

Published: Thu Mar 07 2024