Madara Uchiha VS Sosuke Aizen | Naruto Shippuden VS Bleach

all right so we're finally doing this it's Christmas and here's my present to all of you Madara vs. Aizen so you guys would not leave me alone about this for the past few months since I even like hinted at its existence you wouldn't leave me alone on Xbox Playstation twitch Twitter discord YouTube everything I did you guys would always bring it up so with me today I got my good pal Clyde yeah I'm here so yeah like we would tweet we would tweet basically anything we can be sitting there like hey you know sorry guys I can't upload this week my family just died in a car accident and you guys would be like modder of us his eyes and when question mark essentially we took a long time because there were a few delays so I had to debunk Ichigo vs. narshall on the death battle and we wanted to do as much research as possible we want to make this video like a solid chatty Mass you know we wanted it to be we want this to be the the end of video because the benefit with the Akatsuki in a spot of video is that that video essentially puts that entire debate to rest and almost every person that's watched it pretty much agrees that is the end all for the debate yeah and moderate and Ison are basically the two big old chaps of their universe they are the two household names almost everyone knows who modder is almost everyone knows who Aizen is so this death battle is gonna be really insane so without further ado we're gonna go over eyes and speed and I hope you all enjoy all right guys I'm gonna be starting off with the speed of eyes and as SEF just said and I just want to say very quickly that bleach is a series doesn't actually have any official guides or statements by the author himself Kubo or even from characters to confirm just how fast characters actually are in the series which is quite annoying because if you look at series like Torico and naruto there are actually guides for both series and even parts in the manga for both of those series which just actually state very straightforward hey this guy is this fast I mean if you look at Naruto we have confirmation that certain characters are light speed of lightning speed and even sound whereas in bleed [ __ ] borderline doesn't even exist so Seth and I had to do a ton of research to find out just how fast Aizen should roughly be and after going through many ambiguous and contentious statements by characters throughout the manga we did come up with three ways to pinpoint just how fast Aizen should be with the math and the methods that we have used now the first one we have is the ash Whelan light this is used by the Quincy's and more specifically you Harbor it is regarded as a ray of light multiple times throughout the series that's actually just what it is entirely and you how uses it - pretty much he snaps his fingers he goes like this and it steals the abilities of Quincy's that he deems unfit to continue fighting and he can either give them to other Quincy's or he can just keep them for himself yeah we have seen characters dodge this light on multiple occasions especially the Quincy's and even some of the high ranked Quincy's - and one of the most key moments that happened in the manga which is why we're talking about the Australian light is actually the fact that Uehara has used this from the top of the Seoul Palace and he used it all the way so it hit the quincies at the bottom of the soul society and if you're new to bleach it's actually a ridiculously long distance and we have a way to scale this because ichigo flew from the seoul palace to the soul society and let's do it like this sorry if we lowball Ichigo and we comfortably say that ok he's only the speed of lightning which travels at 220,000 miles per hour because it did actually take him 9 hours at what was quoted full speed to fly from the soul palace to the soul society by using basic math it would come down to being 1 million nine hundred and eighty thousand miles that he actually flew if it took him nine hours to do so at lightning speed but by low-boiling him this way it's actually blatantly wrong because you're essentially saying that the Ichigo with his true powers at that point in the series is only as fast as he was again to be akhiya which is actually stated in the official data books to be the speed of lightning it actually says that each go against byakuya was the speed of lightning in bankai when he first attains it at like the very start of the series and honestly if you're saying that Ichigo is only that fast you're saying that I doesn't even scale to vaster Lord a form which fought against yuuki aura and you know if you know anything about bleach it should be common sense what I'm implying here so we have an actual way to scale how fast ichigo should be just doing it it's pretty rough but it works so if he is base bankai is you know like lightning you can times that by 10 with the Halla fication mask just by the fact that he was able to be Grimmjow and the deal with Grimmjow is that Grimmjow actually [ __ ] on his bankai in just his base form and then h ago with his mask was able to compete with grim Diaz resurrection which is actually comparable to a in multiplication because when he transforms and fights ichigo he you seriously absolutely [ __ ] slaps him to the point where the strength is insane but ichigo as the fight progresses does beat him with the mask on so it can be scaled two times ten this then puts ichigo at 2,200,000 miles per hour if you do that times ten multiplication and then by throwing earth you're into the equation scene as he is comparable to the Ichigo from the war arc I think that's a pretty comfortable way to scale them because you know ochio is still in his second release a very impressive character even in the war arc and here's someone that can even be compared to the vast Oh Lord a form because yes he did get [ __ ] on by the vaster Lord but he did fight pretty well against it to some extent okay your first release times 10 because it is his first release like seriously Cooke slapped ichigo's hollow mask and that you know if just times up by ten twenty two million miles per hour and then you do the ten times multiplication once again for his second release and that is two hundred and twenty million miles per hour and once again if you're to say that Ichigo from the war arc is actually stronger than second release or Kiara this would make complete sense and then by doing that we can use the speed two hundred and twenty million miles per hour basically based on Ichigo use the nine hours that it took him to get there and then the distance should end up being 1 billion nine hundred million miles that he actually traveled because let's be honest Ichigo is not just the speed of lightning in that part of the series and the benefit with doing this is that Aizen is easily scalable towards Ichigo and to some extent actually a lot more impressive than Ichigo so it's it's not that far-fetched to say so and you see by having the actual distance between the Soul Palace and the soul Society being roughly two billion miles which is what I said before this proves that the osh waylynn light is actually faster than light or relativistic two light speeds because there are panels in the manga where it clearly shows that the light is hitting someone within a couple of seconds distance and it would make no sense for it to be a minute or two minutes or even five minutes because characters in the war arc are not fodder at all they would literally be standing there like oh man let me just check my watch this ah Suellen light that i have to dodge is taking quite a long time no it proves that the australian light is light speed and it is relativistic to light speed if you want a low bullet so there you go that's that the way and the second thing we have is actually Lily borrow or x-axis for those of you who know him as that and he is a Quincy that has a vole standing which basically it entirely revolves around the light based attacks he's intangible and both Nannerl slash should sway highlight that he is attacking with light and the third one actually touches a bit on the first method that we used and it's pretty much that Ichigo and the data books is stated to be lightning speed against pyaar kiya during the soul Society arc and it is incredibly easy for us to say that the god T is in that verse of three thousand times stronger than Ichigo in that fight which does automatically put them around life speed because light is roughly three thousand times the speed of lightning I mean if you actually just compare Ichigo from the soul Society arc that fought against byakuya to someone like you you're a second release which is scaled to be able to destroy California with a single Lanza relámpago or destroying the Melbourne 7.8 times and then you even have good old Yamamoto who was said to be able to destroy the entire soul society which is scaled to the size of earth I think that puts into perspective just how different the strength difference between characters in the soul society and the current arcs actually are so when talking about moderate hei speed especially in the six paths state there's a few feet so you generally have to go over so the first one is sort of a misconception where he fights Mike guy now Mike guy runs so fast that his body mass increases to the point where he starts warping gravity now this doesn't necessarily mean anything like for example a black hole if it reaches you know the event horizon or significant enough mass you can't even see inside of it that's why it's black because light cannot escape however obviously Mike guy was still visible he was just incredibly fast there's no reason to say that he would be as powerful to black hole I kinda just wanted to debunk that misconception wrath about for actually getting to a speed now unlike bleach which is very ambiguous and controversial and weird and debatable moderate does have data books written by the literal author of the story that just says blatantly how fast as a techniques are so moderate has a technique called send you to stage arch storm release light bang a ninja to used by those who gain the six paths power they emit a beam of light to bisect the enemy like a sharp and pointed Fang it cuts all things with the speed of lights may impossible for the enemy to evade even one swing this is moderate with one Rena GaN so this is the same moderate that was blitzed dodged you know fondled by six pays Naruto and then he gets blitzed and chopped in half by socks K he then gets another Rena gone and is able to sort of toy with Naruto and Sasuke is able to basically quadruple aslim bows and is able to launch the infinite tsukuyomi and unlocked the char rena gan yoke agnia Sharingan that increases his power even more exponentially now moderate is not as fast as Kaguya however he does it receive many many upgrades beyond just the Sage art light Fang which was so weak that Sasuke Naruto could casually finesse and chop them in half where he had to calmly away for his life so moderate by this point is easily faster than the speed of light he's faster than this light Fang yeah even if you look at part one of Naruto earlier on characters like Akashi even as a kid with no chakra cut lightning bolts in half this is referenced in all the data books even the anime the manga he's generally above lightning even as a fatigued child with the lightning blade and then you have characters such as Haku with his ice mirrors is capable of reflecting himself around the battlefield at literally the speed of light fast enough to blitz Kakashi who's faster than lightning and most people kind of get the misconception that Sasuke and Naruto are faster than light because they were able to tag Haku however there are a few things to consider for one Haku was not trying whatsoever versus Naruto and Sasuke he was actually putting on a ruse he actually wanted to lose intentionally and this was brought up by Zabuza and the data book says it's possible for Hawkwood to move at the speed of light meaning he can but it doesn't mean he's always doing such and when Naruto fought Haku is more like Naruto is using omnidirectional defense in offense and was just blatantly overpowering everything Haku did regardless of his speed so Haku kind of keep him at bay so there you get the idea that even characters earlier on in the series where at least you know the speed of light and it's just really impossible to say that moderate stage art light Fang cannot be the speed of light especially when the data book itself is backing it up and course there's even power scaling to back this up as well so essentially all you need to do to prove that the gods tears are the speed of light is proof they are three thousand times faster or stronger than Kakashi which is very easy to do so in Naruto the more chakra you have the more power and speed you have this is shown whatever NARR so it gets a little qbf his power and speed increase like vs. Neji stuff like that right so one thing that Naruto does is he goes to throughout the entire shinobi alliance tapped all of their shoulders and increases all of their chakras by over three times the amount of chakra Kakashi has normally and this is stated when Kakashi is planning with shukaku how to deal with the ten tails and Kakashi states his calmly should at least be over three times more powerful with how much chakra Naruto gave him so how many ninja did Naruto power up by three times the level of Kakashi now in the in the beginning of the war there were 80,000 shinobi in the war and there's 100,000 zetsu and there were five divisions of shinobi so I think it's important to go over all the divisions and kind of gauge a general gist of how many shinobi are still alive so you have Kakashi's unit or platoon in which he was generally unfazed he basically soloed all this swordsmen by himself with guy and when he returned to the battlefield and fought the tailed beast he was generally not fatigued spamming calmly lightning blades all kinds of stuff he wasn't tired at all even after fighting that whole time his Hisle platoon was generally fun that's at least like fifteen to twenty thousand shinobi right there daughterly squad was the one on the beach he generally had no troubles with kinkaku and ginkaku he sold them basically by himself with keep SUCI and of course you have Choji and his father Choza solo the ghetto Mazo and they generally did not suffer that many casualties either and then yeah he hoon a squad or the commando units they also did not suffer many squads really the only squad that suffered major major damage would be Gaara squad which was ironically one shotted by moderate meteors so it's very clear that there are still at least over 10,000 shinobi all being amplified by over three times the speed of lightning so even power scaling itself you could call it calc stacking if you want but it's more like supporting evidence that these characters could easily be scaled to at least light speeds and of course moderate himself surpasses this numerous times over and there's no reason to doubt that he's capable of those levels of speeds when even the Reika gay has synapses that fire at the speed of light all right so moving on to the strength of eyes and I just want to clear up some misconceptions very fast so the actual isin that is seated in his chair in the war Ark he is actually stronger than he was against Ichigo in ichigo's Donga form and this is very important because not only is it highlighted by multiple characters but it's actually stated that just by sitting in his chair he managed to get stronger over time like he wasn't actually doing anything he was sealed the entire time in his chair and he managed to get stronger he flexed his eraser and he stopped that mini Hoggy like eyeball things he was able to whack out a Kido without even saying the can't Asian and it was even said to be stronger than the one he used against Ichigo and in this point in the series he's actually retained at the immortality ability from the hogyoku whether or not it's still inside of his body on that point of the series it's not necessarily shown but he does keep the immortality ability because the soul society couldn't execute him this is the reason why he is still in the chair and not executed as they would have just you know normally done and if you don't know how executions work in the soul society they actually have this Phoenix blade sort of execution stand where it has the power of 1 million zanpakuto so whether or not they've actually tried that on Aizen that's kind of headcanon but let's say for the the fact of common sense that they did try it on Aizen it definitely didn't work and it is said by central 46 that he's lucky he's actually immortal otherwise he would have been quite executed and the really important thing is that not only is he stronger than he was when he was like transcendent or whatever he's also still sealed for the most part while he's fighting and while sealed he's stronger than he was versus Ichigo and another really important thing this is actually very interesting a lot of people are like you know where's the aizen's bankai and stuff why does he activate his bankai now the thing about Aizen is that his zanpakuto is actually two levels above a bankai do you have [ __ ] kai bankai and then you have transcended where your zanpakuto fuses with your hand and this is shown with Don guy and trance Eisen and then there's the fourth level which is shown by the final getsugatensho and Aizen after Ichigo in which er zanpakuto fuses with your very being and this is shown how Aizen can put people under kyoka or his illusions without even whipping out his sword and he's also able to manifest his sword out of seemingly nowhere so he was able to whip this out versus you ha with absolutely no effort he's came out of nowhere he shouldn't even had a sword on him when he's in the chair right however he still pulls it out if you through this very being having low spiritual pressure doesn't call it cause your zanpakuto to just sit to great like it was at the end of Ichigo versus Aizen it was in fact actually fusing with Aizen at the end of the fight now that we kind of got that out of the way and people are like whoa bankai would look flies power by ten times because he's already two levels above bankai that's why he's so much more powerful than all the other characters and that's why he transcends Shinigami and Hollow now to get into his DC a very important thing to go over when talking about the destructive capacity of bleach are the heavy hitting gods here so the main big one is you ha so you heart was going to destroy earth the soul society and hueco mundo with just his sheer energy so basically his energy was going to engulf all three of them and this is actually showing his physical energies pouring out of the planet and also it should be noted that yes uhaah himself was going to destroy it because a lot of people like oh well just the balance of the planets are just gonna be destroyed however this isn't true because this same act of his energy pouring out of the planet was going to kill ichigo as well and obviously ichigo has nothing to do with the balance of the planets or anything of the sort he's not some sort of natural balance he's just a character that's going to be engulfed in this tsunami of Yuhas energy and to further prove that US energy was engulfing all these different planets and realms in the very last chapter I believe it was like 10 to 15 years later you can quote me on that or don't quote me on that by this round it's a good time skip his energy is still protruding from random parts of the soul society and the earth and Aizen even you know suggests while the last vestiges of Yuhas power have finally disappeared after all this time because his energy was truly on every single realm in the bleach versicle at least in the normal ones not like in every galaxy or all the universe but least in this new normal planets we are aware of and of course Aizen does scale to you huh now he's not as powerful as you are however he's still relative he's still capable of dealing damage he's still capable of casting illusions over him he's not crushed by a spiritual pressure he's still a relevant threat to you ha even if he's multi-planet level or large planet level and to add to what SEF just said if you actually scale Aizen - yamamoto which he is scaled to a GMO motor because he's fought yamamoto before when yamamoto actually activated his bankai and the war art while suppressed he dried up every single bit of water in the soul society all of the water in the atmosphere and all water / ice zanpakuto users could not even activate their swords it was also confirmed that Yamamoto has bankai is the heat of the core of the Sun which comes in at around 15 million degrees Celsius or 27 million Fahrenheit yoha also said specifically to hash wolf to get out of the way of the sword which clearly implies that they can be not only damaged but also potentially killed by said sword and while suppressed - just by having yamamoto activate the sword itself he said that he would end up destroying the soul society if he continued to stay in that form suppressing himself so just put that into perspective he was suppressing himself and he had to clearly state that if I don't you know and this flight in a couple of minutes or seconds I'm gonna end up destroying the soul society which is scaled to the size of Earth and considering the fact that the soul society is the afterlife that it's kind of self-explanatory and many of their captain's back this up they're like if you don't hurry you're gonna destroy everything so please make this quick that's what they were all saying and everything on the planet was being dried and affected we know it has planetary range of its drying every bit of moisture in the entire planet so yes it does have planetary range and everyone agrees he's going to destroy the soul Society by existing now a very interesting thing about yamamoto is this is not he tax is bankai is not some kind of extract is not some kind of exaggerated fire it's not even fired it's just quite literally his spiritual energy it's quite literally his just the energy within himself is so power that it releases a kinetic energy capable of destroying the entire planet and evaporating all water on a planet just his existence because if you recall heat isn't itself kinetic energy so the bit the mere fact that his energy is causing this means that it's actually just his destructive power in essence and not only is he doing this just by existing he's trying to avoid this consequence he's purposely suppressing all the power and kinetic energy into his blade as much as he can he's not trying to let it flow out and destroy everything he's trying to suppress it and even then it's going to destroy this entire world now the question is how does Aizen scale to yamamoto exactly we know how he scales to kind of you ha because obviously he fought you at the very end he was capable of finessing him casting illusions over him and Aizen at one point even stated I now have the means to destroy you so who knows what Aizen is truly capable of if he was actually pushed into a full battle with you ha and Ichigo didn't show up and if you're still not comfortable with the fact that Aizen can be scaled towards yamamoto who is one of the strongest characters just in the series in general when Aizen is actually first introduced into the series in the soul society arc there are actually guides that state that the Aizen right there in that arc is scalable towards yamamoto with statistics that show off their strength their speed their intelligence etc and then he later says to ichigo when he attains his transcended form that he has actually surpassed both hollow and soul reaper in terms of just raw strength so that kind of implies that he is saying he's stronger than any sorry but at that point in time and to some extent it's not actually that far-fetched because while he was in one of his first transformations the silver surfer mode he was actually able to take on his Shane or ahora Yolo a chi and Ichigo all at once so it wouldn't surprise me that the actual form that was fighting dong guy Ichigo could take majority of the captains at once if not every single one of them solo which includes yamamoto yeah he even considers himself a dimensional tier above Shinigami in a hollow he thinks he's a completely different league now obviously dimensional tier is sort of out there because he's basically just saying oh they shouldn't even be able to sense my power so and by that logic ichigo would be like sixth or seventh dimensional just because Aizen couldn't sense him which is a little bit out there by that logic like Shinigami we'd be like dimensional tiers higher than normal people and it's just not very likely but regardless of that he's basically stating that he should be on an entirely different level he was to challenge the royal palace who by law are stronger than Yamamoto he also knows that Yamamoto he has a bankai and stuff like that he said he's aware of these abilities that's why he did try taking him on in his base for me made wonder why I use in Folie surpasses this as a transcendent zanpakuto he's very capable of fighting a little even just in though each go fight probably not even in his final evolution there's more scaling to that so Ichigo in the hell verse movie now the hell verse movie on the box set is actually confirmed q have been oversaw and written by HUBO himself and it should be noted that Kubo didn't really state he didn't like the outcome of the story until after the movie and writing was all done I heard rumors that is about the shipping thing well let's not get too far into that the movie itself is very credible source in the movie itself it stated that Vasto Lorde a destroys the chains of hell and blasts open the gates of hell after destroying almost every single layer of hell now we don't know the exact size of hell albert is stated by basically a few people that if Ichigo unlocks his vassal or deform again or he lets it go the entire world might be destroyed he might destroy the entire world if his vast Deloria powers appear and this is also backed up because yamamoto says i thought that the chains of hell were uncuttable I thought those were indestructible and here's Vasto Lorde a who can just destroy the world with lore cuts those same chains and more than likely surpasses yamamoto who himself in destroyed the world and of course don guy is basically Vasto Lorde a hollow or Weitz whatever you want to call it mixed with his Quincy powers and sort of a transcendent state if that Don guy transcended level versus Aizen is what surpasses Yamamoto as aizen's applying there would be no inconsistency there would be no even a radio lankey there'd be no reason to refute what I'm saying because I do not contradict anything with that form of scaling and this makes complete sense because there are actually two situations where Yamamoto is scared of both Aizen and the faster lord a form the first being the fact that he was shocked that the vast Earl or they could cut the chains of hell and the second situation is when yamamoto finds out that you heart tried to recruit Aizen to his side and he is visibly not too happy about the situation yeah and on top of that shunts way goes out of his way to recruit Eisen in this war against fighters that are basically [ __ ] on all of them so anyways at the end of the day Aizen and just raw destructive power it's just easily on these planetary tiers possibly multiple times over with scaling there's no real exact number to give without too much head Canon just know that it's beyond basically planet level by merely existing if you use Yamamoto and look guys we've given you multiple alternatives to prove that Aizen does scale towards these characters and I know that most people want to see some visual evidence of like a big beam key blast attack blowing up a planet but just by actually scaling Aizen to the bastard Lord a that can apparently destroy how yamamoto who can destroy the world and yaku can destroy multiple worlds that's basically all we need to say look at this from the point of the author how does the author prove someone strong without messing up the entire plot how do I make you ha Planet level without him actually destroying the entire planet and plot the way you do that is repeated statement and backed up statements this is essentially how it's done so wouldn't you ha has like eight statements say he's gonna store the planet and it's sort of physically hinted at the end of the story it's more than likely what's gonna happen an author cannot always destroy a planet or go to an alien world to destroy it like a Dragon Ball character or something like that a lot of things take place in the in that same planet so they can't just destroy the world or whatever else the entire plot be hindered and we do know that Kubo as the writer bleach was definitely on a time crunch so you definitely could not have a distraction just because he needed to prove that to his fanboys that you has a planet buster so moderate destructive capacity requires a lot less effort as well than it is to prove Aizen like I said before Naruto is more straight up with what they think characters are capable of they also have a lot of guides that back them up as well I want to start things off by saying it's a bit anachronistic to say that these and Ototo characters are only mountain level a lot of people think that for whatever reason because the tailed beast destroyed mountains now that's all they are capable of even after they are surpassed numerous times over by the seemingly limitless our of the ten tails who was compared to the size of a small planet in just reserves of chakra by the shinobi sensory unit or how the nine tails in the original data book was stated to be able to turn the world into ash whether that means life wiper or etc it kind of is backed up by the fact that Kaguya up sook see herself was stated to be able to destroy the planet with their expansive true city norm so this is what data book four states about cognitive jutsu the expansive true stigma is listed as a keck a [ __ ] in jutsu it says that she uses the divine tree to absorb chakra from all the shinobi and create a maximized truth egg or the equivalent black orbs that appear behind our toes back when using six paths sage mode and can't be compared to its dimension comprised of all five elements in yin yang had the power to obliterate the world and return it to nothing and in fact she was stated that she was gonna create an entirely new time-space and it should be noted as well is that each little true seeking or behind Naruto's back is stronger than a bijuu dama each one it's actually stated that is there each one is stronger than a bijuu dama and here's kaga with the true signor of so big it's going to engulf an entire dimension and she's gonna recreate on an entire time-space that is beyond planet plus size and dimensions hits omnidirectional can held a moon gravitating around the planet and a lot of people are as well are like well the shinobi alliance or what gave cogging that power however as we kind of discussed earlier Naruto power the shinobi alliance twice one time he did it with uh with mini toe and the other size of the know nine tails however he also did it by himself completely way earlier before Sasuke even appeared and like I said before he powered every single member of the shinobi alliance by three times the chakra of Kakashi the shinobi alliance is absolutely nothing compared to Konya and while you could say well the experience of truth in York takes time to reach planetary levels that's true however does say something about her overall chakra and that the sheer essence or mass of her chakra is so great that she has the potential destroy planet Plus Size Dimensions and some people even go and say that there was a star in that dimension however we're not gonna go too far here we're not gonna get a little too crazy alright she was capable of destroying the entire world at least has stated by the data book itself and of course moderate himself obviously scales if double Rena GaN Madara is stronger than Naruto and Sasuke individually and they are K bula fighting Kaguya then moderate with three eyes should be pretty relative to cocky and sheer chakra now obviously cocky is more powerful however madhuri is not like infinitely weak or anything he's still on the same tier level a few more things that back this up as well is that to an ad in the last casually chops the moon in half which is above continental level in power with just a swing of his sword I don't even think he does on purpose he just does it to try to kill Naruto he then absorbs solar radiation at the end of the movie states with just a little bit of solar radiation absorbed he's going to destroy all earth with a single attack and Naruto even says I'm not gonna let you destroy the earth implying that Naruto is cat is confident that toneri actually does have the power to destroy the planet it's all should be noted that the shinobi in that same movie just a few hundred of them from the cloud village mostly cloud will just wiped out as well since their entire nation was obliterated just a few shinobi from the cloud village had the power to destroy the moon and these guys didn't even know the moon was Hollow they thought it was a full moon they're gonna teleport away and destroy the moon as stated just a few hundred of them and as we know the tailed beasts are capable of powering these guys I looked in the tens of thousands so it's very very very clear that on a consistent level the god tears in Naruto or above planet level and it should also be noted that weaker characters like King cheeky who fought a heavily fatigued half power Sasuke is stated in his own Bo Toto data book with forbidden power that can split worlds and obliterate all things kimchee ki hopes to the otsuki's clan toward suits ki clans prosperity and that means kimchi ki can split a world beyond its gravitational pole so that it does not come back together meaning he can inflict over planetary levels of force and he is basically fodder compared to a three-eyed Madara at least using scaly so by this logic moderate with his abilities is easily over planet levels of power at least in terms of attack potency and this is also kind of backed up by Naruto and Sasuke just by clamping their skills together casually make a moon to Co Kaguya without even losing any energy they actually have a whole battle after this like nothing even happened they got stronger if anything so yes it's very clearly he's above planet level and he does in fact seem to have a relative power to sosuke aizen alright so I think that we've covered just about everything in terms of just how raw strength these guys truly are like how much they can destroy how powerful they are when you scale them to other characters and with all of that being said we're gonna jump into just who would win the fight and talk about a little bit more of their techniques all right so one thing we need to go over is that the powers of these characters are very relative if you've got to notice both both vaguely above planet level and both vaguely fast and light you know you might be able you know blinking your own calculations about why so and so is 7.89 x fashion light the other ones like seven point six three but for the most part it should just be noted they are generally in the same tier of powers however it is easier and more logical in this case to say that moderate has more power so for example you have you ha who's going to destroy you know the three worlds with is just a sheer energy and then clogged he is gonna destroy a planet plus size realm that possibly has a star although we're not gonna use the star because obviously that's a little bit higher balled out there and it doesn't it's a little bit out there even for Naruto it's not even the data book somebody backed it up regardless she is going to throw a planets Plus Size dimension and Madara actually just directly scales this ability this is way way beyond planet level whereas aizen scales to Yamamoto who is going to destroy the planet by basically existing or his power is going to Albert's very hard to argue how rate or above planets Hillary you know Ison really is and what comes to faster-than-light me and Clyde we really really had to stretch and even at one point resort to a bit of calc stacking at one point we used a consistent for Michalak stacking like we use kalak stacking I was backed by the lore of the series but we really had to stretch just you know kind of get to this point of isin being you know faster than light I mean he definitely it's fast in light however when it goes to just mere consistency and how blatant a power is moderates just blatantly bastard like possibly on multiple times by scale yeah that's the issue to with a lot of this research we had Naruto which had like facts and stats and statements which were just really blatant and straightforward actually told us how fast or how strong certain characters were but when it came to eyes and we had to do a lot of [ __ ] around to find out the answer to make sure this video would be correct and as far as the benefit with this matchup is that these characters in terms of general abilities and speed that pretty well comparable and I think that's what makes this so interesting but just to say it once again compared to Madara there was a lot of messing around that went into finding out just how fast eyes and actually is yeah without a doubt so I think when you bring it down to it Madara is more than likely more powerful than sosuke aizen however before your heart stops there is still techniques in half and there is still intelligence in this battle moderate is not godly levels ahead of Aizen now as I said before Mara and Aizen are very comparable I mean it's pretty clear that they are considering all the stuff that Webb said in this very video but the example that I like to use when I think of these guys fighting is actually the hypothetical fight of how Madara would have fought against Pacquiao now acog ear to me is a glass cannon she is strong she has plenty of chakra she has lots of destructive capabilities but she doesn't have a strong foundation in terms of intelligence and just everything else like Madara has I believe that Madara could be cocky because he is a slippery banana whereas Koga is basically a [ __ ] with a handgun and the reason why this is relevant in this subject is because Aizen is the same deal when it comes to him matching up against Madara now they're both very intelligent so I'm not gonna take that away from murderer at all but Aizen isn't someone who just fires big explosive attacks bring down medias and you know controls tailed beasts and stuff like that he's a lot more precise and potent with the way that he fights if you take for example this so a lot of people don't know this but Aizen is actually considered a Kido master which means that he can use every Kido and jato technique in the entire series now there are actually listed as over a hundred different techniques that you can use so you have anything from teleportation there are multiple teleportation Kito's which he can also use without any can't a ssin which means that you can basically use them instantaneously just like go through it uses Instant Transmission by focusing where he's gonna move Aizen also has stuff that can nullify a tax he has an attack or the black coffin which can bend time and space and he also has a cater which can stop time itself within a certain vicinity which considering that like I said he doesn't have to do the can't Asians because of the level that he is at he can literally just whip those techniques out with the snap of a he also has a far superior hypnosis so if you were putting moderate in character versus Aizen in character Aizen would more than likely instantly put this guy under hypnosis and we know that his hypnosis works on people far stronger than himself like with you ha and with moderate moderate is more like oh I will put you under again jutsu if this situation requires four or maybe I'll put like a subtle illusion you could argue he might use the infinite tsukuyomi but I would also argue that Aizen would hit it with his illusion far before moderate even thought of using infinite tsukiyomi I guess one opponent especially with moderate moderate sort of arrogant he has this very strong complex that he's the most powerful being in that he probably would not need to resort to that the fight one yeah he definitely has a vegeta type personality which which is what I like about him personally like he is the type of person if we were to put these rising character he would actually want to see what Isaac do that's something people need to keep in mind if this is gonna be a real fight between these two I'm pretty confident to say that Madara would want to see what Aizen could do either that or he's gonna dick around and because there will be a distance between them Aizen can easily activate his ability because for him to activate his hypnosis all he has to do his unsheathed his sword that is it and actually in his chair state he doesn't even need to do that his entire body is technically his sword at this point so all moderate has to do is just look at his general direction yeah it's like said like that's actually a good point because a lot of people are gonna think oh well you know moderate can just jump up grab his sword and cancel it out but here's the deal though Aizen in the war ah doesn't even have a sword because he whips it out like the rena gun poles like it can just appear like wherever he wants because it's a part of his body right that is how he got you hot under the hypnosis from the start because literally all that happened was you ha visits him in jail he's like hey man how you doing and then when he's fighting later on in the war he's like wait my sense of time and everything's being distorted what's going on and that's because Aizen just casually put him under his hypnosis without even doing anything if you think moderate has too good of intuition to fall for that you ha has the almighty which could literally see every future possibility and timeline simultaneously and he still got hit by he still did not know if he got hit by it even though he could see a free future timeline at the same time he still did not see it and that's the thing I love Madara but for you guys to wank him in the sense that oh he wouldn't know you know he'd definitely have a plan for that situation like this is you heart we're talking about like this is the guy who can see just like Steph said basically any possible reality that can happen there's no way that murder is gonna think like this dude just activated an ability I'm definitely under a hypnosis right now ah and another thing is he actually fights people that are like masters of hypnosis and tough like that and they still just are never aware that they are under it because Aizen actually commits it like hypnosis that makes his opponent seem like they're winning so that they don't actually suspect anything and that's how you finesses them and there are multiple situations of this in the series like if you look at shinji who had a sword which is very it's very comparable to Aizen sword but what it actually does is it just distorts your visual sort of perception of what's happening not actually like all five senses like aizen's and basically shinji was fighting him the whole time thinking yeah I've got Aizen on the he's on the back foot you know he's under my hypnosis but the whole time Aizen had had him under his right and another thing with Aizen especially with like this vague small power gap is he still actually does have hogyoku abilities and it's very likely that if moderate even did mess with him or get even a slight upper hand regardless of this massive hypnosis which even worked on new-ha who could see all futures then Aizen might actually eventually adapt in surpass Madara white lately he has you know he has regeneration that he cannot be executed no matter how many times they try and he adapts this is actually how he most likely got more powerful while in a chair is that the hogyoku was just adapting and making him more powerful it's very apparent so this vague power gap might actually be surpassed even if moderate somehow tagged Aizen now I think the biggest thing that moderate has is the limbo clones how do you think Aizen would deal with moderate limbo well when it comes to the limbo clones a lot of people have this association with the limbo as being tied heavily to the shadow clones which when you picture a shadow clone you could prick it with a pin and it just explodes like a balloon you know they don't really strike you were something powerful but the limbo clones can actually one-shot tailed beasts just with a [ __ ] punch like just think about that just a punch can knock out a tailed beast and you see the thing with Aizen is that he doesn't have any visual prowess that helps his vision but what he actually does have is a range of kiddos like I briefly mentioned before and one of those kiddos is a key to that Shinji used in the past to rip open an invisible barrier that Aizen had around himself when he was only a lieutenant so at the time he was fodder but the technique itself is purely used to stop illusions and can even rip open something that is actually invisible and if you were to say that the actual Limbo clones are on an astral plane or they're actually made of complete truck rather then I have no doubt in my mind that if I hadn't ripped open where they were he could make them visible with that Kido technique and if that's not enough the actual fact of the matter is that if Aizen has Madara under the hypnosis from the very start of the battle which most likely is the case the Limbo clones and Madara would have absolutely no idea where Aizen is at every moment because his hypnosis would have affected murderer and he would be completely messing with his mind and if you doubt just how strong aizen's hypnosis actually is he used it on the visoreds 100 years ago and when they appeared in the color coded town arc they were still under his hypnosis yeah and for the most part Aizen wouldn't even be visible to moderate either so we're actually being very generous with what is visible or not and it all should be noted that the second madra is under illusion his Limbo's are also going to be construed they're not gonna work to their full efficiency and it's just very unlikely that moderate could actually do anything further from there obviously Aizen has the power to hurt moderate even Sakura and zetsu could hurt six paths characters if they're not on guard right so it's very clear that Aizen with his slippery banana tactics does actually have the intelligence he has the intelligence to fight people that are eons years old have eons of experience geniuses that can create you know devices that can hamper all of reality and he's outsmarting all of these guys whereas moderates just fighting you know some warring basically almost borderline barbaric race of ninja so I mean they're they have their own intelligent beats more intelligent than most people in our planet however they are just do not compare to eons of study or you know meditation like a lot of these you know bleach characters have done so it's very clear that in all honesty isin were more than like we be more intelligent than moderate with his illusions in relative power there's just no real reason to say that moderate wins so you could say that you know moderate might be able to use like a soul-stealing technique however should be noted that all of bleach battles are seoul-based and if you want to go Seoul versus Seoul Aizen zanpakuto itself attacks the Seoul it attacks your soul itself so if moderate has no astral defense which he more than likely doesn't really have any then Aizen would 1-shot if we're talking about soul battles and even eyes and spiritual pressure attacks the soul in your existence itself and I'd also like to argue that due to his spiritual reiatsu kind of covering a massive area Aizen might actually hamper the limbo clones even if they did exist so in all honesty if we're talking about an in character battle where moderate just is he likes to attest his opponents even versus Naruto and Sasuke he was testing them he demon goat attempt to go all out until you tamed the third eye in that case Aizen just absolutely finesses and flexes on moderate however it in a blood lusted battle Madara might take it because moderate would obviously be blood lusted and one obviously probably blitz and overpower him and probably seal him however in an in character battle a normal one Aizen would take the day and another argument that people are gonna make straightaway is oh the battle would be over from the start because as soon as they lock eyes Aizen would be on began jutsu but here's the deal where we're talking in the sense of personality in this fight because if we were to just jerk them off like there's so many different outcomes that could happen and that's just not how we want to do this that's boring but essentially what's gonna happen is because moderate isn't someone who flexes can use you all the time he likes to last out fights like Vegeta does is why I compare him to Paquita before have had very similar personalities he did this to my guy like this is the guy who used BR that eight gates the gate of death like one of the most powerful techniques in the series and all modern I wanted to do was sit there and jerk off and watch him throw hands like he was loving it so I don't see why he wouldn't want to do that with Aizen especially because when they face off straight away Aizen doesn't even have to unsheathed his sword like I mentioned before like just existing just standing there he would already have murderer under his hypnosis and and that's the thing like we've seen plenty of times in the series of bleach that's how Aizen fights he's incredibly snaky and that's just what he would do tomorrow to be honest yeah and if we're talking about aizen's character basically every single fight except versus Ichigo he puts his opponent under illusion especially if they're stronger than him like a you ha he instantly pushed him under illusion he every single character in the bleep verse he meets he tries to put them in an illusion so yes it is an aizen's character to put a character under illusion and Ichigo is just like a plot outlier so that ichigo's to the chance and just to add to the way that Aizen actually fights if we compare Aizen to the Ichigo in just his old bankai that fought in the cutta cutta town arc when Ichigo trained with his dad he actually trained for three months non-stop just three straight months of training with his zanpakuto in the dango and this is also proven by the fact that Ichigo was taking physical damage while he was sitting there meditating the entire time so it was definitely straining him that entire time and base form Aizen during that part of the series this is before he went through any of the hogyoku transformations and this is even before the actual time-skip when he's way stronger in the chair he said to Ichigo that he could kill him in an instant if he actually wanted to and flashed over to him and scared the [ __ ] out of each girl so I have no doubt in my mind that aizen's endurance could last way longer than three months of non-stop fighting now another thing is obviously the true sticking orb now the true seeking orbs for the most part they're only stated to negating ninjutsu however you could argue that they are stronger than B's u bombs by a good portion however like I like I said they're only really ninjutsu based like for example the Second Hokage tobirama was capable of actually grabbing one and giving it back to Obito and we do know that Minato was capable of having the truth even or touch his jacket and he teleported away and his jacket didn't even have any holes in it afterwards so the the idea that the truth in orbs obliterate absolutely everything when no-limits is a bit out there I mean you could wank could say that happens however even if one did hit Aizen I said could still regenerate he's obviously not been due to he's not a reanimation he's not chakra based he's more biological or spiritual based and we've never seen the truth seeing orbs hinder on a spiritual level or on a basically a physical level we only seen it really on a reanimation chakra level so Aizen would still adapt and if anything if he adapts to a true Seymore that could destroy anything that would make it even worse for moderate and another thing that I want to add is that a lot of the bleach fans are gonna say hey well murderer would die at the instance that he gets even too close to Eisenhower strong eyes and the spiritual pressure is at that point in the series and that is not true okay that is definitely not true and it matters because people like Renji Ichigo and Newhart both were all able to withstand eyes and spiritual pressure and very specifically Renji because he was within that fight at the time and Aizen has said that if he does flex his spiritual pressure he can choose what he can destroy him what he can and it really just comes down to if the opponent is weak enough they will vanish or if they're strong enough they can withstand it because even like shouldn't sway for example if he's too close to eyes and when he was taking off the seals going by the logic of the bleach fans he should have banished or lost an arm or something so like I said it comes down to how strong the actual opponent is that it's fighting Aizen so I'm just gonna say straight away that is not how Aizen could beat Madara it just it doesn't work that way that's just blatant fanboy and even if we take that away from eyes and it's honestly not that big of a deal because let's say we want to milk Aizen as best we can we want to just wake that dude right off rip his dick right off we can give him the hogyoku and all of its abilities so he has immortality he can adapt to just about any situation so for example if we're to say that murderer whips out his perfect Susa nose that is also buffed by the rigor no form and he literally just slays Aizen right there because that's not very far-fetched to say so considering that it would get a buff from the ricca demo'd and all of the sage chakra if he just absolutely blitzed him with that and chopped him up like sushi the hogyoku because it has a mind of its own would actually transform Aizen into a being that's stronger than the perfect Susanoo and murderer himself he would continually throughout the fight adapt and get stronger and then progressively get stronger than Madara to the point where he's too strong for murderer to deal with and also the benefit with the hogyoku is that it can snap him out of the genjutsu so let's say that in a hypothetical situation that Madara is the one who you know pulls off the the hypnosis before Aizen the whole yo crew can actually snap him out of it for two reasons one it can literally Bend reality and do basically whatever at once and the second thing is that we know for a fact that genjutsu in the series of Naruto it can be distorted by the power of someone else so for this fight we can we can't say that Aizen has charged and then the hogyoku also has chakra but if we're gonna you know work the abilities in the same way we can just say that the hogyoku can either distort your spiritual pressure or we can just say that the hogyoku can blatantly just snap him out of it I also think another thing that's very much worth mentioning is the fact that a lot of Naruto fans are gonna say well what about Jabbar through ten say what about almighty push what about all the pubs of the.you know the rent a gun that you can use now we've highlighted basically most of them but I also think it's worth mentioning okay that look when Mara is in his Rickard own mode all he has to do is slap his hands together and he can make twenty meteors appear in the sky just with absolute ease I'm sure Seth and I both agree that yeah if he really wanted to he could probably make something the size of a moon if not the size of a planet and it probably wouldn't even be that big of a deal for him to do but the issue is that it's not really relevant in this fight because aizen's flying abilities are incredibly useful he is fast as [ __ ] and those meteors are not moving at light speed or even double the speed of light or even relativistic speed so the media's themselves very useless chibok who tends say could be useful but the problem is he's either gonna be one under the hypnosis and the other thing is that Aizen could most likely destroy the debris and the meteors and the rock that's gonna cover him with not only his spiritual pressure but and look even if murderer did get him into a position where he's getting covered by 22 Bakri 10 says he's on the backfoot he can't do anything even though he's immortal he's literally just stuck there like a magnet to a rock and that's where the hogyoku comes into play because if he was stuck in the chibok ooh ten days he would be transformed into a beam that could break out of it as we seen last time that he got transformed by the hogyoku he could do this [Music] and to prove the hogyoku kinda has its own sentient is that it shoes it's a master and then it will like faithfully serve that master even from the distance it will it will understand its masters feelings what it wants and it will kind of give you what you desire which is why Aizen kept getting stronger got the ball being regenerating became one with the zanpakuto because the hogyoku felt that's what Aizen wanted and in fact at the end of the day the only reason Aizen really sort of lost this is dated by Ichigo is because Aizen wanted to lose deep down he actually didn't even want to win and deep down he felt alone because how strong he was at this point so the only time we've ever seen Aizen take a fat out is when deep inside he really wanted to lose and obviously he does not want to lose against Madara these he's way past that in the chair state anyways guys I think that's all we need to talk about hope you enjoyed the video I think I think we did a pretty good job with this like I just want to say I'm from you know Seth and I we both apologize for the wait but the deal with this is this is a huge [ __ ] video and we had to make sure that we did it correctly so to all you guys that waited and watched it all the way through to this part of the video thank you guys so much for watching thanks for me on the channel Seth I appreciate it a lot this has been a really good video I hope this answers the question of Aizen versus moderate moderate stronger aizen's a better fighter anyways till next time we're cut off [Music] but the Scottie [Music] that's really good I like that I like that I like that a lot I like it

Channel: SethTheProgrammer

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Length: 52min 13sec (3133 seconds)

Published: Tue Dec 26 2017

Reddit Comments

[u/RUMAXIS]

Yeah, Aizen stomps, no contest whatsoever. This is a smooth sailing for him. He has much superior hax, speed, sealing techniques, strenght, teleportation, durability, superior immortality, regeneration, nigh-omnipotent illusion, reality warping abilities etc etc, and he can keep evolving further and beyond

According to them, Aizen wins as well.

[u/Reiashi]

Aizen would blow away most if not all of the Narutoverse just by making his Reiatsu able to be percieved by regular people.

[u/[deleted]]

keikaku beats kunais

[u/TodenEngel]

the only thing Madara wins in is being a much better developed character