LuLaRoe: The REAL Untold Story. (Anti-MLM) (Pt. 2)

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Such a good deep dive

👍︎︎ 8 👤︎︎ u/LizzyBuzy 📅︎︎ Feb 21 2020 🗫︎ replies

She has a few good videos that I’ve seen about mlms. Pretty in depth and interesting

👍︎︎ 7 👤︎︎ u/haka-mo 📅︎︎ Feb 21 2020 🗫︎ replies

I just watched this and it has a lot of additional info that I hadn’t heard of! Really recommend it.

👍︎︎ 4 👤︎︎ u/70349 📅︎︎ Feb 22 2020 🗫︎ replies

I love the song at the end!

👍︎︎ 3 👤︎︎ u/hannahmontana9011 📅︎︎ Feb 21 2020 🗫︎ replies

Sad that the mormon faith is a cult built by a thief that embraces thieves

👍︎︎ 5 👤︎︎ u/Wendyokoopa22 📅︎︎ Feb 22 2020 🗫︎ replies
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[Music] [Applause] so whilst all of these legal troubles are ongoing the students are having a way another time with their pilot Infiniti money in addition to their multi-million dollar ranch in Wyoming which they are planning on buying the next door of as well they have two horses called Moana and Misty and the young recently enjoyed a lavish 60th birthday party at an exclusive hotel the mission Ellen's bar in Riverside California which would probably cost about $10,000 in itself for a birthday party the owner at least one private jet a Gulfstream g550 Nitz estimated that they would have paid between 20 and 30 million for it also real estate title in the area are purchased in the names of Lennon hot stone land Carolina Pines 8 to three-ring doll circle LLC and 404 8z circle LLC just some of the limited companies that Mark has set up over the years and Mark mark has his own is man hobby buying exciting luxury sports cars they all have these Norse mythology names because of Sweden and you know it's Thor its Ragnarok it's you know Vader and I think mark what's the name your name it's gotta have a name I go great it's Ruthie he owns two Koenigsegg CCX and an Agora RS an estimates are that he paid over two million dollars for his Agera R s so Mark's beloved Agera R s is the fastest production car in the world and you know what that means mark probably has the tiniest penis in the world boom roasted he boasts about how his car is the holder of the world record and how do they measure the speed that it could get up to by hiring a racing driver and closing the Nevada Highway for a day because when you're a [ __ ] millionaire you can do whatever the [ __ ] you want and inconvenience as many people as you want for your little ego drive from Parata Nevada to Vegas there's a stretch of highway that has an about an 11 mile straightaway it's not flat but it's straight and the road surface is in very good condition and we'd always talked about joked about how it would be great to see how fast a Koenigsegg can go on this particular highway and Mark was generous enough to offer his car to make this world-record attempt my diet in their lawsuit accuses students of hiding assets from their creditor by using shell companies so these are all the LLC's that I mentioned earlier the kerning sakes do appear to have been purchased through the cell company's ghost squadron and inland exotic to LLC's which have been apparently linked to the students and the jet through another LLC called v 119 I am recording this over a couple of different days so I'm back recording the rest of it now okay so when Marc's beloved agera r s ruthie broke the speed record mark said the following it's like winning the Olympics you're the gold medal winner for that day and really that day alone this feels absolute it feels final is so you stole from the lunar Oh consultants and my Dyer brought a car with it paid someone else to drive that car for you to break the world record and you're so self obsessed that by doing that you feel like you've won the gold medal of all of the Olympics of all time awesome anyway so also stated in my dies lawsuit against the students mark apparently said the following look guys I'm not going to pay you guys a f--king dime unless the judge orders me to pay it Indiana and I will take our two or three hundred million dollars to the Bahamas and everything now despite all of this Deana mark or of course charitable angels [Music] once upon a time the students had a partnership with the National Down Syndrome Society and this is where we introduce Robert and tire food and bender I see poohbear I see amazing Amelia's I see amazing James and Jordans I see bicycles I see high heels this is freakin amazing they sell together on Facebook live they became top sellers by doing things like selling lunar Oh in the hospital room straight after giving birth hey Braxton say hey Lou the world pain in the world all right sure our videos comment boom number five for Braxton boom number five for Braxton things are going very well for the Buddha Mendes until one day all of a sudden this happens this understandably caused outrage after which Buddha Mandir released an apology video yes we also get terrible apology videos in the MLM world not just on YouTube I don't know if I've ever known a YouTube videos you include a literal [ __ ] prop of a person from the marginalized group that they've just offended it's like if that logan Paul's apology video features like a corpse in the background and he was saying look I do respect corpses I have corpse friends look that would explain why he has friends though they must all be brain dead so what do you think mark and Yun did in response to this you think they chose the charity over the Buddhist of course they chose to cut ties with the charity yes and here's the Facebook post that they wrote we are deeply saddened and disappointed to announce our decision to end our relationship with the National Down Syndrome Society our company and the independent fashion retailers have embraced the NDS s and it's important work and have enthusiastically supported the organization's efforts over the past year regrettably a lunar independent fashion retailer exhibited an unacceptable and insensitive behavior during a live sale which understandably offended viewers as was everyone at Luna Road we believe his apology is sincere and accepted his assurance that this type of behavior would never happen again we are also using this unfortunate incident as an opportunity to redouble our sensitivity and tolerance training effort and policies in DSS is unwilling to accept the retailer's apology and I has informed us that unless we terminate his contract with Luna ro the organisation will no longer associate with us we do not believe this is the most productive response to his actions which he has fully apologized for is to close his business and threaten his ability to provide for his family you mean provide for you the am don't you you mean provide for you and then the comments are a literal dumpster fire everyone's very a very pissed off basically as if we didn't already know by now they chose the money that the top sellers made them over their morals hilariously however this proved to be a pointless move by the students and they might as well have pretended to have morals in the end and cut ties with the food and vendors because the Buddha Mendes left Luna row only eight months after to join doTERRA another MLM based in Utah that sells essential oils which are often claimed to do things like cure cancer and lose weight with their slim & sassy line so after their break with the National Down Syndrome Society Luna row have released capsules which they say are in support of various charities like a capsule II released in June Live 2019 for breast cancer awareness one dollar from each qualifying piece in an order was donated to the charity but the pieces were in general our two dollars more expensive than normal so lularoe were just making $1 of extra profit per piece sold out of this charity capsule so that was going straight into that pockets it's a way to grow your business they call it cause branding or cause selling right now is a perfect time to kick-start your initiatives in your business with fundraiser very charitable diem thank you you've always got woman's best interests at heart look at you constantly empowering women [Music] at the 2017 new revision event they hired the one and only woman in power s Katy Perry to perform but she's a California girl she's and I love that I love when women empower themselves and she even gets her ended with pep talk he found 9 times get up 10 you just gotta keep getting up so I just keep getting up to every single day it's a wonderful feeling to wake up in the morning and go I can't decide I choose to be positive I decide I'm the one that comes change things today right but I wake up and just decide you're gonna have a great day you're gonna think positively you're gonna be kind to each individual you meet right and that's what you do I know we all want to change the world but why can't we just change ourselves do you think she even has any idea what she's saying here she was probably paid enough to not even care hey look a pyramid this [ __ ] just writes itself and here's the women who are being empowered here is woman who works over full-time hours and invested eleven thousand dollars but he marks words she's failed because she's not worked hard enough so counsel said she invested around eleven thousand dollars but despite working more than full-time hours couldn't make it work and in November said she was still over four thousand dollars in debt I feel like I failed my family I put my family into debt to do something that ended up not being what they preach know your stale your customers are stale get out and find new customers the animals who seem to have this really weird obsession with couples they have an entire series on that YouTube channel called Happy Hearts Club it involves couple's telling cute stories about how they met and how much they love being in business to get and it seems to work there's a lot of Lube sellers out there that do business as a couple it's better and all the things you love about the tuning on Facebook see what bad stuff are you [Music] also here's some actual marriage advice that was given at a leadership event but of course the whole aim is to get the entire family dependent on lularoe so that there's no way out for them in the end in this interview with former mentor Courtney Harwood she tells about how she was once uninvited to a cruise because her husband couldn't come with her it was a couples cruise Courtney this is the coaches couples retreat it is a weekend that we have put together for you and your husband to celebrate their accomplishment with Dean and mark it's time to take a break from everything picked up together as a couple um you just tell me this I was owned the penis so the other two girls ended up coming we met the next day at the resort and we got to the front of the line and they had canceled our rooms and that was when I was very very sad but I will say that they did accommodate us and that Deanne found us grooms called us down to a meeting the three of us and said I didn't want y'all to feel uncomfortable being the only you know quote single people and I was like Dee and I was like I'm not uncomfortable like my theory is the more dependent you are on the LaRoque completely the harder it is to leave so if your husband and he and you're 100% all-in it's harder to leave and so well all right there's a real market there good job I'm like no we all sit around at night in a meeting and held hands and we talked about you said your name or your from who your husband is and what your last bonus check was but if you are married there's a very much pressure to bring your spouse to everything to the bath one two three thing she said she wants ended up discussing her marriage was Deanna markcaswell and then the students apparently urged the couple to stay together she urged Courtney to tell her husband to quit his job and help her with the lularoe business instead and for her to basically focus on being subservient to her husband and then they turned it over to how is your marriage in 2015 dan I will say I in my opinion was a totally different person I call her mom indeed she was like a second mother to me and so you know I opened up the heart of it you know me and my husband had issues I didn't tell her anything specific then they said well why don't we bring in Kim and Doug were Lance for some marriage counseling they brought in Kim and Doug to talk to us about how he put his job that would be better anyway they said well Courtney clay you have two hours before we meet for dinner go back to your hotel and Courtney make sure you please clay before dinner and during the mentor trainer view they were saying Courtney you have RBF which is resting [ __ ] so she asked me to wear tunity pinned on now is five minutes every day and look in the mirror and that's how be able to walk around smile all day go frown another way in which Tien loves to empower women is to fat shame them basically into getting gastric sleeves allegedly Courtney tells the story in detail in the vice documentary on YouTube and I recommend giving that a watch for the full story but to give you the TL Dr Dee Ann and her sister Lynnae in lynnae's husband lynnae's also at lularoe consultant herself and they like to pressure their top mentors into traveling across the border to Tijuana in Mexico and get gastric sleeves because allegedly she likes her mentors to be sized small or medium small medium [Music] I've lost 72 pounds or 2 pounds so don't listen to what people are saying about Mexico Mexico is especially Tijuana is safe and it is very very very clean in the areas that you're going to and and they're going to take really good care of you so anyway she goes I'll get my sister watch with you awesome ok I mean think about it y'all what are you gonna say no yeah you don't say no just so everybody knows you don't think no but I went to bed that night crying thinking I am not good enough I am they will begin pressurizing women into this what's that group called Tijuana skinnies Courtney got the right into the group but due to other health concerns like being on certain medications she was quite rightly thinking twice about getting the surgery one day two days after I got home I started getting text from Dan sister Lynnae about we're going to Tijuana in two weeks let's get you on the schedule it's like they would not approve you in America you're taking a big risk she goes especially with the mentor on it wasn't just anxiety and depression if seizure meds - and she's like you've gotta be monitored you can't stay there for one night she eventually agrees to get a balloon put in her stomach instead which is meant to be less intrusive but it almost kills her so the week I went about that in the US and they had already added me to a group chat called the Tijuana skinny chat where everybody that had gone to Tijuana talked about it mm-hmm well when I told them I was going to get the orb era balloon in the u.s. act he brought the chat I could hardly stand up I was basically spewing acid out of my mouth because that had no food and I told my husband but you know we're hitting I was like please take me back to the dock I've got to get this tip out something not right and that start having seizures my children I thought I was dead they only thing that they could think of is that what happened was that my meds weren't being absorbed correctly they got part of you know but they were bearable hoon you're basically a balloon being placed in your stomach and then she eventually had it removed but afterwards even after that Lynnae continued to pressure Kourtney into getting the gastric bands done instead what do you know week later guess who contacts me what she says via text and she says her she went through with it were bearable own how was it I texted her back I said look it didn't work I got really sick Bob of the watch said see I told you dr. Michelle said it wouldn't work when he went from Tijuana called he eventually declines and then she gets kicked out of the Tijuana skinnies what's that group that was a la Salle's ever asked to speak at any convention or leadership or anything the only other text message I ever got was hey guys they were doing plastic surgery down there now - what would you like to get done we do breast augmentations and implants not that stuff right there no no I like my waffle yeah you way below anyways goodbye another crazy random story from Courtney is that Deanne encouraged a load of top sellers on a trip to buy themselves kaol rooks and Dee Ann said she said that she would ship them all back her house and then send them out to the owners of the kerrick's when they got back to the US but it just never happened she just took them in her private jet threw them back to her own house and kept the kerrick's for herself now she just acts like the hers it also turns out that Lynnae is allegedly getting a $1,000 kickback for every person that she refers to this Tijuana clinic which comes out of the $5,000 that the person pays she and her husband are listed his official contacts on the website as well from a quick scroll on their Facebook page you can see another lady who's recently got a surgery done by the name of Chrissy and just after a quick google of lunar Oh top sellers caught Chrissy yeah she's she's another one that's been caught Indiana lynnae's gastric band net and many of the before and after pictures on their Facebook page seems to be of women wearing lularoe esque clothing as well weirdly another example of the yarn being a great model to women is her attitude towards drops allegedly according to former consultants Diana's constantly popping pills and by the look of her Instagram stories I'm just saying she does always seem a little bit Oh nobody got tried I'm tired when to lay down I couldn't because I'm so excited so excited about life I am tired of Martin we need a new t-shirt so do she sure is an interesting character and the interesting funding life that she hails from could go some way to explain the way that she is [Music] helping back to the beginning of video the an explains the humble beginnings of her business she finds cheap kids justice she buys them she saw someone at parties then makes a maxi skirt for her daughter all of a mate's want one she makes a load of skirts sells them at parties instead and all of a sudden she's a multimillionaire what daeun seems to leave out of this story though is her relationship with her twin sister Diane yes you heard that right Diane's mother gave birth to twins and decided to call them Diane and Diane and I would say they're pretty much identical they look extremely similar but since the birth of Luna ro from what I can tell Diane has never mentioned Diane in the public so Diane lives much more of a private life and there's not so much information about her online that I could dig my nose little teeth into but from what I could find though she studied fashion design at university so she's an actual seamstress seemingly much more qualified to start up a clothing business than Diane who dropped out of uni before getting a degree apparently the twins opened the nail salon together for a brief time in 1992 before moving on to selling clothes together until about November 2012 this is when the most recent evidence of the twins working together can be found online in the lularoe the on the top story video the answer she spent 27 years selling little girls dresses but doesn't mention her sister even once some shows a nephew of the students has been involved in flu neuro since the beginning and tells a different story about the origins of new Tyrone he says that Diane is the real seamstress and Diane is the one who originally made the original maxi skirt as she had experience selling the dresses at the parties but Diane was the one who would make the dresses as she was the seamstress and together for some time they made a great team until they had a falling out I couldn't find any information anywhere as to why this fallout happened but before that Diane and Diane were very very close they even had a joint wedding where they two men who are cousins keeping it in the family the mandiant married in this ceremony was her first husband who she had four children with and adopted three more from a orphanage in Romania rumors circulate online that Diane and Mark met on a plane while they were both still married and began their relationship on the plane I'm not talking mile-high club but the plane story is what I've heard from various sources online nothing too official so you know take that with a pinch of Himalayan sea salt the an of course ended up divorcing Kenneth and marrying mark instead so when deeanne's microscope business was taking off but Diane had left she then approached Julianne Knapp who is the costume designer for Yo Gabba Gabba yes that show and then she introduced her to Jose Arabia and apparel producer who worked with her for the Yo Gabba Gabba costumes so Diane went on to make her own MLM clothing company called honey and lace which later changed its name to PIFAN II in 2017 it's a much smaller MLM but with much nicer clothes if you ask me either way though it's still an MLM so it belongs in the [ __ ] bin the sibling rivalry never ceased though and in September 2017 when Luna rose issues were thrust into the limelight and coaches and mentors started to leave tiffany began soliciting them and recruiting them into their company instead Luna row has since sued Tiffany for this so before lularoe mark worked as a concrete contractor but before that in 2000 mark was involved in a company called chino hos LLC a real estate investment company matt was listed as the organizer of the LLC with aldo bacala as their manager aldo went on to be convicted of running a ponzi scheme in which he made 20 million dollars and was sentenced to 20 years in jail for fraud he convinced close friends and family to give him their life savings and remortgage their property many of which ended up going into foreclosure but Carlos spent the money he stole on lavish lifestyle including treating himself to four home and would gamble away millions on the stock market how much mark knew about the color scheme being in the business with him is unclear so now let me introduce you to Sam Schultz an interesting character in this whole debacle in himself he was with Luna ro since the beginning and even got the gastric band treatment in Tijuana albeit for free paid for by the name he saves Luna wrote terminated his contract in 2017 leaving him with 40,000 dollars worth of inventory so he joined PIFAN II instead he says his job epiphany was to target Luna ROS most productive consultants Schultz also described Luna ROS trade secrets epiphany including the protected leadership information whatever that is he loudly announced his departure from lularoe in 2017 via a Facebook post this prompted many angry lunar row consultants opposed to their stories in the replies including Kourtney heartwood the allegations on these replies are pretty wild portly says she reckons the name must have got hundreds of people to get the Tijuana gastric band surgery or the consultants speculate about how many consultants that really are one here reckons there are about 100,000 but Kourtney harps in and says that she's heard on two separate occasions from head office employees that there are a hundred and fifty thousand but they didn't admit this due to saturation worry sam says he was acting multiple times to be a testimonial to women for the gastric sleeve surgery and it made him feel awkward he also says that he helped Luna wrote guitar from millions to billions and only ever got ten thousand raise from the stidham's he goes on to say that many new neuro mentors are pharmacists so they have direct access to whatever drugs they want and they can take them wherever they want to with their private jet apparently they don't drink as per the Mormon religion but they pop pills like a pick-and-mix Kourtney goes on to say that they went on a retreat to a pharmacy in Guatemala and oxycontin was basically just offered to everyone they would mix it with xanax and 5-hour energy drinks but she would be belittled for even having a glass of wine one night yeah I was like we've got to go to the pharmacy yeah and I was like the farmer fee yeah she was like oh my god anything you want it sounds cheaper than AmeriCorps you buy that prescription just get everything you want she's like thanks oxy god blah blah well they threw it back to me okay and so I didn't want to know I wasn't taking it so I caught it actually I'm pretty good catch things and they would under the seeds after you guys went shopping and then came back from the Guatemala trip and you had to go through customs Deanne told us to say that we were buying all this stuff our extended family don't sing your inventory back guys don't that's what they're trying to tell you they're gonna recycle it and put it in other people's boxes which none of the consultants want your old inventory and no one wants uh their their money or clothes to be held hostage for months on end and it's obvious now that they're not paying anyone back until they onboard more people Deanne call me let's chat you think you're untouchable it's ridiculous these are humans that are you you're absolutely scamming absolutely you're scamming them have you ever been cut out from a family member that you helped take their business from seventy million dollars to 1.3 billion dollars and you quit to go become a consultant and you go on vacation and you get a cease and desist letter in the email and you never hear from them again now some shorts after he parted ways and made his money from lularoe allegedly went back to his roots as a musician and decided to start managing and promoting artists here's a quote from a musician who he managed Nicole paid him $600 a month for two years before parting ways he would not pay as for shows and she said he would make all sorts of promises and not keep them he would just disappear at times and just a lot of things would go wrong but the deception didn't end there in February 2000 and nineteen he was charged with 26 felonies for getting people to invest in a pot farm which never even existed there are 13 victims that the police know about one of Schultz's Vick to set the following some shells contacted me in February 2018 and asked for $7000 he said my investment would double and I would get it back in two days he explained it was for a pot farmer owned by some kind of Polynesian gang or mafia it was located in Oregon and he was obligated to facilitate the investments for it it sounded ridiculous and I told some no at that point he said I should just give him the money and keep it a secret from my spouse since the investment would double in two days I once again told him no however the pitch didn't sound ridiculous to everyone in all Schultz recruited at least 13 investors who collectively gave him three hundred and twenty three thousand dollars including one woman who asked not to be identified due to the nature of her investment she said she gave Schultz a hundred thousand dollars moving on to a man called a Mon Becca this guy was a loner Oh IT guy he is Diane's niece's husband so in December 2015 to October 2016 noodle row Consultants noticed their money going missing and at the time Nuala Road denied it was their fault saying their payment system is more secure than PayPal they never reported any identity theft or credit card security breaches to the Corona PD in August 2016 in the middle of Luna Rose consultants money going missing that car bought a house mortgage three hundred and fifty thousand dollars then he takes out two more mortgages and it totals up to four hundred and ninety thousand dollars in November 2016 he is arrested for embezzling funds from Luna Road got to February 2017 Luna Road buys his house for some reason Becker is ordered in court to pay a whopping one hundred and fifty dollars a month to pay back money that he embezzled from lunar oh no no no sued Becker in october 2009 team for embezzling money from their company and stopping paying the restitution in April 2000 and nineteen except he has been paying it and has provided proof but lularoe owned the house which was supposedly paid for by the money that was embezzled from their company so unpack that one for me guys with remote otherwise known as work from home jobs becoming more popular the need of sslvpn s have grown tremendously with remote desktop you are opening up ports for anyone to gain access to your network while SSL VPN is encrypted and connects directly via your firewall consider how important that encryption would be when traveling or working from an unsecured Wi-Fi connection because attacks and intrusions can come through your SSL VPN - Diann has also been accused of verbally abusing her own niece in text messages when she said she couldn't come on a cruise for top-sellers because she wanted to go on a pre booked holiday with her family some shorts exposed these screenshots of these messages of Deanne telling her niece that her family doesn't cash the check Christy the niece apparently never received the bonus check that she was owed for this trip there's also been general allegations that the top sellers of lularoe are all related to Deanna mark in some way including Kim and Doug roylene's who appeared in this video I found no hard evidence to back this up but people are alleging this Deann apparently does not charge the initial onboarding fee to her relatives when they sign up as well another interesting quote from Deanne which I couldn't find proof of but I have seen alleged for multiple comments from ex consultants is that Deanna told women to get down on their knees for five minutes a day and please their husbands so that they wouldn't care about how much money they were spending on lularoe the story behind the ants childhood and in particular her parents could go a little way to explain the way that she is Dee Ann's parents were called Maureen and Albert started yes startup was their literal name they met at university in 1935 and had 11 children together the startups were entrepreneurs and were business partners from the beginning they had a catering company which the children helped out with Maureen also started a bridal shop which Deanne helps her out with during the 1960's feminism was starting to take a hold in society the women's liberation movement despises the playboy concept of women women had started pushing his ass to work more money for themselves and to be able to compete with men in the same career paths rather than be expected to give up their careers as soon as they had children rare is the girl who wants to be a doctor an engineer or a pilot the Southern Pacific Railroad had refused for the fourth time to promote her from clerk to station agent the reason was California laws said women cannot work overtime nor lift more than 25 pounds it's myth of male protection of women does not exist so it would be obviously impossible to fly a regiment halfway around the world at a moment's notice when at least half the regiment could simply never be ready on time Maureen and Albert however took issue with this and they decided to write a book the secret power of femininity the art of attracting winning and keeping the right man for you here are a couple of quotes shaking hands is an art for the feminine woman she will begin eagerly and confidingly and then suddenly seem to realize it is a man's hand she is holding and begin shyly drawing her own hand away nothing can be better designed to remind the man immediately of the contrast of her feminine shyness with his manly thoughtlessness and indifference it cries out loudly to him watch your step here is a dainty and tender woman another device is to become so interested in what you are saying or in what is happening but you put your arm ever so lightly upon the man's coat sleeve and then when you see that he has noticed it to draw your hand away with an air of confusion and self-conscious modesty this serves to bring out the confiding truthfulness of your nature and then to emphasize your timorousness the startup's believes that the Equal Rights Amendment movement would hinder women's chances of getting child custody and would cause women to be drafted into war maureen started became chairwoman of the california branch of the stop er a organization should also host sociable z' to single church members to try and hook them up they founded the American family and Institute AFF I in 1945 and would charge women $300 to take part in femininity forums which were 12 sessions of three hours each this next thing I found blew my mind a little bit someone posted on reddit the foreword to Maureen and Albert's book and it was written by a man called John our brown plastic surgeon and I thought this is a bit unusual having a plastic surgeon write the foreword to your book so I gave him a quick google expecting not to find much information about him and like move on but a Wikipedia article came up for a man called John Ronald Brown a plastic surgeon from Utah whose birth and death dates matched up with a John run or brown listed in an online family tree of the startups yes their entire family tree is online I found that this man from the wikipedia page was definitely Maureen's brother and therefore Diane's uncle and the first sentence of his Wikipedia page says this American surgeon who was convicted of second-degree murder after the death of a 79 year old patient in his care come with me down this tangential rabbit hole you will not regret this John our Brown was a GP for two decades before deciding to train as a surgeon he passed the written assessments for his qualification but failed the oral blaming his domineering father for making him fall apart in front of authority figures in the early 1970s not long after he'd written the foreword for the startups book citing himself as a plastic surgeon even though he was not qualified as one Brown had begun forming surgery anyway so due to his lack of qualifications Brown could not use properly equipped theaters so he used his GPS offices garages hotel rooms and even sometimes trains Brown would operate mainly on people who wanted gender surgery because this was the hardest surgery to qualify for at the time only 24 out of 2,000 people who applied for gender reassignment surgery were granted it most doctors at the time believed that transsexuals were freaks with mental problems when they were rejected the desperate ones and the ones who simply couldn't afford the fees to even attempt legitimate treatment turned to brown it was freely and openly advertising his services and operating on anyone who would pay him he was hailed by some as a legend in the transsexual community but sometimes when the patient couldn't even afford Browns very low fees he allowed them to pay him in labor so they would work is unqualified medical assistance at his pop-up surgeries one early patient remembers going to his office assuming he would do a checkup but to work from the anaesthetic to discover that he had operated in the office he turned his carriage into an operating theater and the more operations he did the further his standards slip sometimes browse patients would complain of their surgeries causing issues after treatment but Brown offered no aftercare sometimes leaving them to wake up after surgery in abandoned hotel rooms and in parked cars one of the surgeons who was left to pick up Browns pieces said it's hard to imagine anyone worse than John Brown he didn't care much for evaluating his patients before surgery or for post-operative care he was totally focused on the technical procedure itself and he didn't do that very well so I won't go into the gruesome details of Brown's botched surgeries here and believe me it's vile breeding but I post some links in the description eventually one patient died after a botched surgery and another opened a lawsuit against him when he failed to hospitalize them after contracting a life-threatening infection due to this in 1977 his medical license was finally revoked for gross negligence incompetence and practicing unprofessional medicine in a manner which involved moral turpitude it didn't take long for Brown to find a way around this by the 1980s he moved to San Diego ten minutes away from the Mexican border I had started operating in Tijuana instead bringing his patients over from the US sound familiar according to one of his patients at his Tijuana clinic the sewers overflowed once or twice a day there was never enough running water or enough bathrooms the operating room was just an ordinary bedroom with an upgoing chair so here Braun acquired a business partner called Pat Baxter and together they figured out that as well as cutting Willie's off there was a larger market in making them bigger brands innovative technique for this was even reported to the media at the time while some patients praised brands work others called him butcher Brown it didn't put people off though his no-questions-asked philosophy and cheap fees just kept them coming the word would go out that Brown was coming to town he'd shoots silicone anywhere you wanted it for $200 he'd do breast surgery for $500 he do cheeks breasts and hips after injections she just had to lie flat on your back for three days so the silicone wouldn't go anywhere he plugged the holes with Krazy Glue Brown appeared on an episode of Inside Edition in 1986 called the worst doctor in America I have tried so hard to find this online but alas I cannot I know would kill to see her episode but from what I've read Brown calmly tells reporters that a screaming patient who has woken up during surgery was perfectly normal this program eventually led to the FBI investigating Brown as a result Brown went to prison in 1994 19 months came out and drove a cab for a year before deciding he was bored and then he wanted to cut people up again so eventually in 1998 Brown's legacy would come to an end when he encountered a 79 year old retired satellite engineer called Philip Bondy he suffered from body integrity identity disorder and his symptoms were a burning desire to have his perfectly healthy leg amputated he visited Browne in Tijuana along with his friend dr. Greg M Firth a respected child psychologist who suffered from the same illness and also wanted his leg amputated first backed out at the last moment when he saw Brown's assistant carrying a large knife Bondi was still eager now I was a GP what do we think Brown did in this situation respect the Hippocratic oath and turn the mind away and time to get psychiatric treatment yeah he did no I'm joking he lopped his leg off the procedure was illegal in Mexico as well as the u.s. so to hide the evidence he drove the leg out to the desert in Mexico and chucked it out of the car window so that the Coyotes would eat it Bondi was left to rest just across the border in a San Diego Holiday Inn overnight with his friend dr. Firth Firth found Bondy dead in his hotel room in the morning two days later having died of gas gangrene that's the type of gangrene that gives up a foul-smelling gas when the homicide detective Gary Stovall turned up to investigate the scene firth panics Antonin Bundy had been involved in their taxi accident and needed emergency surgery but the lack of other injuries didn't match up the police in Tijuana haven't heard anything about an accident and two receipts from Brown were found in the room for surgery and hospitalization an autopsy revealed that the infection was caused by brand not leaving enough skin to wrap around the stump therefore it was stretched too far and the blood supply to the healing area was cut up Stovall the homicide detectives searched Brown's apartment he said the apartments muck like garbage and he found not only bloody shoes bloody pillows used needles anesthetic drugs surgery instruments silicone vows and two or three dozen empty tubes of Krazy Glue bloody towels in the bathtub soaking with bleach bloody swabs in a travel bag they also found tapes of Brown surgeries upon watching them Basinski an investigator in the DA's office said the following usually the scalpel slices right in but Brown scalpel was so dull he had to push hard saw back and forth I said to myself oh my god this is why this guy has to be stopped Brown went to trial and multiple victims of his botched gender reassignment surgeries testified against him in gruesome detail and he was convicted of second-degree murder many people allege there were more fatalities as a result of his surgeries but they were never proved he got 15 years to life he died in prison in 2010 at the age of 87 in a prison interview with Paul Ciotti from LA Weekly in response to the report are asking Brown why he caught off that man's leg he said in cosmetic surgery we do things all the time for which there is no need we are constantly rearranging what God gave us Gary Martel is an investigator for the California Medical Licensing Board who has followed Brown's career for nearly 25 years says Brown is one of those people who because he lives his life almost entirely in his own mind he is impervious to reality he has no social conscience he really believes in what he does that's what makes him so dangerous he is a sociopath since see a sociopath jail is a momentary hindrance to him he's been burned before he keeps putting his hand on the stove there is some kind of grander scheme that he is fulfilling I just don't know what it is so there you go guys Diane's late uncle I recommend really more about that man if you're interested in that kind of thing because that absolutely fascinated me no end I spent so much time reading about that man and like I I knew the whole video couldn't be about him but it blew my mind that like that that I found out that that was Diane's own core and he's like quite notorious in the in the transgender scene and in the surgery scene he got convicted of murder for chopping a man's perfectly healthy leg of the things you find out when you go deep down rabbit holes is insane anyway let's move on but the rest of the video but yeah go and look him up if you're interested in that Deanna's constant lectures about empowering women to start their own businesses and become financially and handin it seems it comes from a dark place her advice is constantly underlined with the values that her mother preached encouraging women to actually depend on men and to be married in always in a relationship and to bring that husband into the business with you and it's clear from the story of Dion's uncle that attitudes towards getting dodgy surgery in Mexico were pretty relaxed in the family I do wonder if the contact in Tijuana was obtained possibly through brown back in the day before he died you never know but from what I've read about the Mormon community it's extremely family driven as we've seen evidence and the story and it's a breeding ground for entrepreneurs and business startups [Music] there are multiple reasons for more months making great entrepreneurs they go on almost mandatory missions when they're teenagers so that means they go around talking to a lot of people trying to fix problems in other people's lives trying to convert people to the Mormon faith and in turn they deal with a lot of rejection while on their missions they they're expected to make 140 contacts a week meaning they have to approach people on the street on the train at home just open a dialog about Jesus Christ and they set targets to me every week so they go to foreign countries and learn even the most obscure languages in order to do this so this all translates very well to Direct Selling and to thinking of new business opportunities they're also very well educated they're taught to get a good education they strive to be self-reliant there's also some expectation in the community to be a stay-at-home mum and for the women and to have a lot of children early on in life and they encourage personal responsibility for your finances along with everything else does that remind you a little bit of the MLM mindset according to a national study by the New York Times an estimated 46 percent of primary women in provo are not working well 8% of men or not and on top of that the Mormons believe in honesty so they believe that God is watching them and will hold them accountable for everything that they say so these beliefs build a community in which people trust each other on their word unfortunately this also means that sometimes people can take advantage of this in Utah has become a bit of a hotbed for Ponzi schemes and embezzlement and general white-collar crimes that involve deception it's caused use hard to be the first day in the u.s. to actually start a public white-collar crime offender registry which can be found online but this also means that some of the biggest companies in the world have started in Utah three separate billion-dollar tech companies have started there one being ancestry.com and they sit there side by side in a Provo Business Park there have been numerous multi-million tech companies founded there too Utah has been named the number one state for economic competitiveness and the best state for business as well as Mormonism Utah enjoys low tax rates and a biz friendly government which helps new businesses along as well so the Mormon culture also gives no shame for those who get rich and believing that it is God who is rewarding them for all of their hard work it also teaches to you it abstain from alcohol tobacco and coffee but of course if your audio and popping pills is absolutely fine as a result of all of this Utah has the most amount of MLMs per capita than any other state some of the biggest MLM based in Utah and they include Nu Skin doTERRA Young Living unique MonaVie and jamboree elder Dallin H Oaks an apostle in the LDS Church wrote in his book in pure in heart about what makes Mormons susceptible to the temptations of pyramid schemes some have charged that modern Latter day Saints are particularly susceptible to the gospel of success and the theology of prosperity according to this gospel success in the world particularly entrepreneurial access is an essential ingredient of the progress toward the celestial kingdom according to this theology success and prosperity are Awards for keeping the commandments and a large home and an expensive car are marks of heavenly favour those who make this charge point to the apparent susceptibility of you tonzura dominantly latter-day saints to the speculative proposals of various get-rich-quick art they claim that many Newtons are gullible and overeager for well there have been a succession of frauds worked by predominantly Mormon entrepreneurs upon predominantly more than victims whether inherently too trusting or just naively overeager for a shortcut to the material prosperity some see as a badge of righteousness some latter-day saints are apparently too vulnerable to the lure of sudden wealth what's more all of these exceptionally wealthy entrepreneurs that the Mormon culture manufactures is feeding into the church itself you could say that all of the MLM is based in Utah are their own pyramids and then in a way they themselves are feeding even further into the LDS Church which is you can say the true 1% the RDS church has been in the news recently due to some controversy about it taking 10% of the income of all of its members some of whom struggle financially and because it's a church it's tax except the church recently built a two billion shopping mall just across the road from the temple a recent whistleblower report from December last year alleges the church is defrauding its members and violating tax law the church makes 7 billion a year of which 6 billion goes into operating costs the remaining 1 million goes to ensign Pete ensign peak Advisors an investment division of the church ensign has in total made a hundred billion dollars since it formed in 1997 the whistleblower alleges that an scientists not only used the money for religious educational or charity purposes and therefore is violating tax law in fact he says that in sign has not used the money for any of those purposes in 22 years including the shopping mall and to bail out a church run insurance company in science president Roger Clark allegedly told people that the amassed funds would be used in the event for the second coming of Christ so if Christ is coming back what are you gonna need to pay for certainly not bred of fish no are you gonna try and recruit Jesus into an MLM 2 which one do we think he would join I think all j-money would look fire in some unique mascara and a Carly dress with her with non matching leggings that was certainly showed up that old white rag is used to be wearing all the time if you're gonna come back after 2020 years you got to make a statement you know anyway back to Nuala row so where are they now bankrupt in jail no so marky-mark it seems is getting a bit desperate as he's trying to keep people who are still in the business for some reason motivated and to ignore all of the negative people like me DM is doing the same mainly on her Instagram stories I've been watching her for the past couple of months while I've been researching this video and she's constantly telling people to pay for other people's coffees who are behind them in the queue at Starbucks strike up conversations with people of course anything that might lead some to being caught up with a lularoe net just so she can squeeze a bit more money out of this situation before it tanks she calls people who criticize her trolls just block them if you see them I'm not seeing them I'm looking down looking and thinking it's crazy it's you know this is not the way we do things and to delete them tell us people to stay positive and even tells people to protect her the untouchable leggings Queen you will concentrate on what you know best then trying to look at the internet and see what's happening and don't be that on getting sidetracked in October 2000 19 they brought the unloading price down to 499 dollars this is generally further pissing off people who paid $5,000 to onboard of course what about those that have just been on board it may be like last week or or yesterday you know what what about but the struggling consultants are doing their best any award acting performances to sound excited about this exciting news you guys Lula Rose onboarding cost is only 499 dollars I am so excited to share with you about our new on 14 it's not even a package okay deal the videos generally are getting a lot of dislikes but don't worry that's just the trolls protecting safety an instance of it's quite clearly another desperation tactic to get more people to sign up but it was probably Mark's idea just like 100% refund so far back in the day they're still releasing new fun and exciting capsules but the same problems persist consultants are not getting the stars that they won and the complaints are flooding in many consultants are still leaving that an estimated 30,000 remaining from its peak of 100 to 150 thousand some leaving with very similar stories to Roberta Blevins and Courtney Harwood Blevins left in January 2018 and eventually gave up the fight to sell her adventure aid and was left with ten thousand dollars worth of unsellable items sat in a garage partly heartwood wood stuff for $40,000 worth of inventory all items that she can't sell and she says that she's owed 20,000 in bonus checks as well and her house had to go into foreclosure as a result so just a bail these two out of their misery marky-mark would have to reach into one of his many little limited company pockets and just get $70,000 out it's a it's a car that can be easily driven every day even though it has this hyper hyper performance easily driven every day what's the price tag mark price tag is well you can't get one the price tags two and a half million mark for two and a half mil I can get a three-bedroom condo a three bath and an unfettered view of Lake Michigan right here in the loop why in the world did you spend 2.5 million on a car so to pay back Courtenay in River that's 170th of the value of your cars alone mark that doesn't even take into account your private jet I don't even know if you have more than one at this point possibly or your multi-million dollar ranch you've said yourself mark that you're able to take hundreds of millions of dollars to an island and [ __ ] everything so I'm not sure exactly what you're planning to [ __ ] mark but I'm only imagining you sticking your tiny little Willy into roles with money that's all I can see now thanks for that image oh and guess who Mark's mate is in this video with the other kerning sake owners it's Dan Kane the CEO of my diet the company now suing moon arose at 33 million dollars they're not mates anymore it's it's a bit awkward now mark Andy an seem to be riding out the my dialogue super as long as possible and in late 2019 after a year they filed a cross complaint countersuing my dire for 1 billion dollars it normally only takes a few months to write a cross complaint with a lawyer but it's quite clear that lularoe were just dragging things out for as long as possible so that they have time to take as much money out of the business as possible that they can hide in llcs so people can't sue their assets away from them basically little rose cross-complaint doesn't really have any legal ground to stand on from what I can see it's basically oh no you argument basically saying that my diet actually owes them money but they don't really have any evidence of figures they might have I would like to sound on if they kept proper documentation over the years but due in part to the students hiring their own unqualified offspring to do their accounts they don't really have any proof that my diet owes the many money they are blaming my die for making detective leggings as well although they previously said in another lawsuit that there are no defective leggings so they're contradicting themselves and also my dad probably made them to Luna row specifications anyways to cut costs so it's not my dice fault from what I can see a reddit post from defectives Becker say is the following here are the numbers you know has mentioned in their claims tens of millions of dollars for products not received 5 million in storage costs that they claim my die should have paid tens of millions over pay because my die failed to negotiate the best price millions of dollars defending themselves in the defective leggings lawsuit half a million owed for the reimbursements to customers 4.3 million in defective black leggings additional 4.3 million in damages related to defective black leggings so Aluna math that adds up to three hundred and sixty million dollars annually wrote is seeking to treble damages so 1 billion and 80 million I think that number is but don't worry Luna ro is willing to prove their damages at trial also in late 2009 teen little very close one of its warehouses in Corona California they claim that they're just streamlining their processes by having all of their clothes stored in one warehouse in South Carolina but people suspect that this probably because my dad's creditors operate in California so it's a way of hiding their assets from them the workers in the warehouse lost their jobs 5 days before Christmas there is one comment I'm ready I found written by an anonymous person who claims to know the an and her family of course take it with a pinch of salt this is just a reddit comment but it seems to add up it's in response to a post on a personal finance subreddit where her husband is asking people if it's really possible to make money out of Luna row and his wife is thinking of dropping the five thousand on boarding fee and here's what the comment said I've been thinking about this for a long time and I feel like it's time I voiced my feelings out loud because I feel like a lot of people could potentially lose money on a dream that frankly isn't true the people at the head of Luna wrote I've known for more than twenty years I grew up around them I hung out with them I know them if you were to ask my advice I would tell you to run because these people don't give a underscore about you trust me on that they want your money and probably couldn't care less if you came back for a second order here's a few facts that I can see they're not very forthright about they're all related they're all brothers sisters sons daughters husbands wives aunts uncles cousins they're all related since I know them and I've seen the lunar air things spring up and take over my Social Feeds I can tell you straight away that they aren't advertising the fact that they're all related know if you were to look at their top sellers and the other individuals they're propping up as being successful you wouldn't know that it's all a lie just recently a woman who I've known for the longest time and is connected to the family finally succumbed and started selling I promise you she did not have to buy a thing yet I could see already that they're using her image and story as one of their success stories they're not interested in you succeeding I've been in and around manufacturing in sales all my life companies that care about their retailers and who view them as assets I'm very protective of them they give areas and prevent others from selling in those areas they give products on account and allowed V Telus to send back products that don't sell lularoe doesn't do any of that if you don't $6,000 like thinking that you're the only one in your area saying guess what Nero will also sell to anyone else in your neighborhood they don't care and why should they selling to you and your neighbor just make them 12 K off of your street there are literally hundreds of thousands of people just like you these people are serial con artists not only are they old family but they're all Mormons straight out of Utah Utah as you may or may not know it's basically a get-rich-quick mecca of the world it's so bad that you tar is now the first state with a white collar registry it's not that Mormons are con artists it's just that the Mormon culture provides the first I'll bed for con artists and get-rich-quick schemes to take root companies like Luna Road train there sell it's to feed off their fellow parishioners while selling the idea of if you just work hard enough the Lord will bless you and you'll become wealthy these people feed off each other until there's nothing left over the years I've seen lots and lots of these get-rich-quick pyramid schemes come and go with varying success the first thing they all jumped on it was the Jets yeah the band they're related then I remember it was Tahitian noni juice this family was peddling that then the woman who's running lularoe she started doing this con where they would hold these auctions to raise money to send people to former Eastern Bloc countries and visit orphanages sounds noble right well what they didn't tell you was that they'd spend a day at the orphanage and then a week or two touring Europe after that there was a string of crap lasers that you shot into your palm I forget what those did pest control companies catering companies sandwich shot I recently saw a story at a Provo where one of these people who runs a sandwich shop wasn't paying the college kids who worked there instead they were strong-arming them into working hours without pay then it was wedding photography companies will other offshoots eg photo editing companies then they were doing these learn how to become a wedding photographer seminars then it was the Aquabats yes connected then Yo Gabba Gabba again connected basically whenever someone in that horde of a family has a spark of success they all quit their jobs and climb aboard and then ride that success until it completely tanks which lularoe will tank as well I'm not a writer I'm not the most eloquent person I just know these people and I don't like what times it's false advertising and in many cases they're feeding on their fellow Mormons for financial gain I know that there are people who see this company on social media and think it's so wonderful and on the surface they do seem very charismatic and successful and in pictures they're living this life it seems beautiful but it's alive over the decades they've become very skilled at selling themselves in this dream and as a result people might believe enough to take out a second on their house or dip into their child's college fund or borrow from family only to lose it all so that's it most people think lularoe are on the brink of filing for bankruptcy and in all likely nurse when they do the students will just get away with everything they'll get away with all of their millions hidden in their LLC's and no one will be able to do anything about it but if you know anyone a lunar rover who's still in lunar oh it's end of this video hopefully they'll sell all of their inventory and get out as soon as possible in an ideal world everyone will be paid back and Mark and young will be sent to prison Deanna's just like so tone-deaf though that I'm not committed realized she's really done anything wrong sadly some of those people needed a sad experience and they raped art when I say that sounds terrible they took all the good prints but they should be locked away so to give you a visual aid for that fantasy I've produced a little song for you and it's called cellblock lularoe [Music] pop split prints uh-oh Tijuana lawsuits I'm now the on Brady's Stidham of the California women's Central Jail in her rendition of South lock lularoe pop split prints out here on out lawsuits pop split prints I'll Tijuana lawsuit they hadn't helped me they had it coming they only have themselves to blame you couldn't work hard I saw those leggings but now your bonus checks off his place [Music] so I met max hit him in Salt Lake City and we told each other we were single and we hit it off right away you saw we started a pyramid scheme together we thought at work we'd come home safe or the knowledge that we and our family and our immediate relatives would always be financially comfortable lost thousands of women who we told were the CEOs of their own companies filing for bankruptcy you know some women just can't handle the mortgage foreclosure you know how some people have these little lost of filing habits they get you down like bang bang bang case video huge manufacturing company he likes to make money white Myanmar but one day an earmark decided not to pay him well I come home this one day I'm really irritated I've run out of sandee's I'm looking for a little bit of sympathy from mark but it comes at me and he says Danny's filing a lawsuit against us so I said to him I said he'll counter sue that bastard he countersued him for 1 billion dollars now I'm standing in the kitchen I'm carving up a chicken beginner minding my own business because I'm a woman who knows her place and then installs my husband Marlon crazy rage about one of our top sellers Robert Portman has been involved in the scandal he said and he kept on screaming Robert Budiman has been involved in a scandal oh so wake up ties with the National Down Syndrome Society my husband Mark trouble around with it we go around showing these maxi skirts that my sister Diane had made one two three four or five one right after the year the fates set up every single time so this one night before a party three of those popping pills how many laughs oh we're gonna does a nice so I went out to get her song I come back open the door and there's Diane and Mark I'm a little conversation about how she's the one who make the first maxi skirt when I was in such a steady shot I'm really blacked out I can't even remember anything it wasn't until later when I was washing the blood off my hands that I even knew she'd started up honey and lace before it began [Music] Diane they only I love that even wrong more than I could possibly say odd clothes were of the highest quality but mark he was always trying to find the cheapest deal he'd go out every night trying to find a factory that would make clothes but even cheaper than my Dyer did well on the way he convinced my Dyer to use cheaper materials and cheaper manufacturing processes I guess you could say it was a bad idea there was one woman who was some of our leggings to Disneyland and they spread across both cheeks I guess she shedder come to Tijuana the little fatty so to play [Music] that's why [Music] no you're still your customers are still such an amazing experience for [Music] [Applause] [Music]
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Channel: münecat
Views: 252,762
Rating: 4.9323545 out of 5
Keywords: lularoe, anti-mlm, antimlm, mlm, multi-level marketing
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Length: 73min 47sec (4427 seconds)
Published: Wed Feb 19 2020
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