Joe Rogan Experience #2145 - Colin Quinn

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Joe Rogan podcast check it out The Joe Rogan Experience Train by day Joe Rogan podcast by night all day hello hello Joe Joe that was fun last night let me just St by saying what a fun time at the club um The Green Room and everything else and here's what I was I was talking to you head of security about the club here's what I love about the club I worked the club I had a great weekend a couple couple months ago is they keep the audience in line nobody's heckling without getting booted is that not the most important thing in comedy that nobody talks about it's very important it's unbelievable and unfortunately there's so many crowd work uh clips that get put out on Instagram and like people are now thinking that they want to be a part of the show and so I see people much more often chiming in and yelling things out and they think they're going to be a part of things yeah and even when you go when you try to be nice on the first line you go that was okay sir then they try again you're like listen you P oh my God but that's what I love about your Club everybody there just has the energy like we're going to tell you right now another word you're out that's how it should be yeah because as you know there's no nobody heckles once right nobody's ever heckled once nobody heckles sober either and nobody heckles sober and they just like to saw trouble and the green wom was fun and even though I didn't go on it was I also didn't go on because you have to understand the language where I was like you like you want to go on I go I don't really want to go you go that's cool but really then you're supposed to say the crowd really want you to go and I'm like Joe I don't want to bump anybody no you wouldn't be bumping anybody well just cut Tony's time down Joe I don't want to be that guy like don't be ridiculous oh I have to dance with you go I didn't know you wanted to dance if you you want to dance tonight no I got to leave I'm going to Seattle toight what the [ __ ] I got to go I would love to yeah are you are you performing tonight in Seattle no no maybe I can change my flight well let's see maybe I can change it move it around there's plenty of flights out of Austin It's a Wonderful Hub it is it's great it keeps booming every time I was here last time I was it was Co yeah I don't think it's going to get too much bigger I think we reached Peak you think so yeah yeah I think it's you think Shane Gillis was the last citizen they allowed in no there's a few more coming Joe D Roa just got a place here he did yeah and Joey Diaz is getting a place here I can't believe the two Joe D's are going to be here um let's go that's great Joe Diaz and Joe D Roa is a fierce combination I know but I spoke to Joe do Roa yesterday I deliberately didn't go to the chicken place because of Joe doosa really why because when he recommended it it just bugged me his his confidence when he goes he got to try this chicken place and I was like it's Gus's Fried Chicken and it's phenomenal I just don't like that Joe's positioning himself as the new uh gastronomic expert in ComEd cuz he owns a sub shop yeah by the way it's a good sub shop though I heard it's aming [ __ ] greated it's [ __ ] great he brought some over when they were doing mooner he was in town he brought some some subs over they were [ __ ] tremendous he's he's got a great place yeah I always look at the Instagram photos I'm like oh my God they look so good they said the bread's amazing everything's amazing the food's amaz he makes a great sub he's obviously it's a labor of love you know he's a professional comic it's a side thing yeah he's like I like sandwiches let's make a sandwich shop and he he knocked it out of the park everybody who goes are big Subs yeah not expensive the name Joey roses is good yes it's great it's great it's angry producing in some ways but a lot of ways for you you have a thing with him I think with Joe yeah I try to have a thing with everybody that's my thing Joe I'd like to have a thing if you had studied just if you had just studied straight karate and weren't into MMA maybe I could have a thing with you but let's face it you don't play games I do play games you're not to be taken lightly um no I don't but what about uh yeah the um yeah before he came down here I was because in New York it's so funny in the green room last night all I want to do is bust balls with everybody yeah like that's the that's what I live for it's fun you know and uh when you see Shane Gillis in there Shane Gillis is just that guy he's so big I just want you to I want you to make I want you to lock him in a in a basement and just feed him like red meat and make train MMA for like 2 years and just eat masculine and red meat and just become a stone cold killer wow that's my dream I've got him working out for [ __ ] yeah I know yeah he looked sore yesterday he said he we did two two hard days this we well look how big he is he a big [ __ ] yeah big old football player kid if I was as big as him I wouldn't be a comic no I'd be a I'd be an animal I'd be working security at the club telling people shut up Tony's trying to do something of that is like it's got an anger to it don't you think a little bit yeah it's got to well there's just so much resistance it's so difficult to get through yeah there a lot of [ __ ] Running Up That River yeah what about uh yeah even the way even the way we talk to each other like I'm at the cellar the other night so here's what happened so I'm just sitting there Keith is there Norton's there so I just give the waitress first of all I I'm I'm like the Sinatra of tipping I didn't want to bring this up but now I'm bringing it up cuz is part of the story so I tip them but I always put it there cuz I'm trying not to flash how much I tip right so I'm trying to do it like that so Norton goes g you're tipping you're not part of the Rat Pack they just are trashing me for 10 minutes meanwhile what I should was I'm only doing that so you cheap bastards don't look bad you know I understand yeah this is a daily thing I enjoy tipping myself yeah I I could see you're a high roller a little love bomb give love bom yes an extra few dollars and it makes their whole day you don't even feel it makes people happy I always try to tell my cheap friends like you got to get over that yeah [ __ ] that 15% what are you doing I agree there's a lot of chislers yeah don't be a chisler and they think of excuses yeah like oh you see that attitude she gave me no yeah I give people big tips and they they give me shitty service I just want everybody to be happy yeah yeah you can give them a little happiness and maybe they'll be nicer to the next people and use the butterfly effect well it's certainly not working for the planet right now let's face it h we're all right I think the problem is we're inundated with bad news constantly yeah that's the real problem and then you know there's also like the problems in cities yeah well everywhere I mean um you know I just did a special by the way about uh um it's releasing tomorrow it's about uh I did it in front of a psychiatrist convention did you really yeah yeah wow I just did it and um so I found I sought out a psychiatrist convention and went there and said hey would you guys let me go on and just do my shoot my special in front of you and they said sure So I did a whole thing then they analyzed me afterwards you know it was funny what what room was it at it was a ballroom like one of those con you know it was like a Washington DC some hotel off the beaten path where they were just having a convention and they did not plan on you being there no and so you knew they were going to be there at that time and you coordinated with them set up cameras the whole deal did you inform them before like the psychiatrist beforehand they were going to be a part of a comedy special well they were they were welcome to come to the show or not but yeah we told them before you know if you come you might be on film but yeah they didn't have to show up obviously half of them probably showed up but it was uh it was great idea interesting yeah I thought it was uh because it's about the world how we're having a psychotic break we talk about the planet so it was kind of a f for me because you know it was interesting for that angle you know the whole Specials built around it it's so much more disgust the bad news is so much more discusted people's problems are so much more disgusted having problems is so much more a thing that people love to talk about now it makes you more interesting it gives you something to talk about and it's just so pervasive and I think social media has just broken people's brains social media started as a fun ant kitchen where everybody was being positive and saying like hey you know dance Between The Raindrops and and then suddenly somebody was like shut up [ __ ] you fat [ __ ] [ __ ] you in the raindrops and it just Unleashed all of us that's that's what I say it's like it Unleashed that part of people and here's the other thing which I think you'll be interested in it's the first time in history you can threaten people and curse them out and not have to run or have a physical confrontation so fight or flight instinct is going to be eliminated from genetics in two generations yeah not just that but also you don't feel bad like if you say something shitty to someone you see the look in their face even if you feel like you should have done it when you're alone at night you might be like I didn't have to do that right why did I do that what a [ __ ] [ __ ] I am now that I I got to apologize and then you'll see him the next day like I was out of line I'm sorry I I was dealing with a lot of [ __ ] you know my mom my sister my this my that sorry I'm sorry but none of that no you don't even know these people too you don't have to say you get just say the most evil mean [ __ ] vicious [ __ ] look through their pictures look at you you fat [ __ ] and your [ __ ] toothless smile and and they used to have they used to have gossip magazines like if celebrities in the 1950s that's when they started to realize people love to read bad scandalous stuff but now you get to respond you're like the writer and the reader of the gossip magazine you know what I do enjoy though when people don't understand how it works and they'll post something and just get smashed in the comments and then they'll start going back and forth with people in the comments like what are you doing yeah what are you doing oh yeah oh yeah or what about uh well one of the biggest problems is people this is one of many of them trying to be funny that they they've never had to they they've always thought they were kind of funny and then they go in and try to be funny and they get away with a couple because they have two people that go hey that was good and they start to think I'm funny and then they get in there and people just start destroying them for trying to be funny cuz they're not used to the heckling that we're used to we got trained out of all our hack habits MH yeah comedy trains you the audience trains you MH and being around comics and being around other comments what the [ __ ] was that joke it regulates you yeah it does it does yeah you get feedback yeah feedback is important positive and negative it's a whole other level yeah who gets more feedback than com we get like real live feedback from hundreds of people every night every night you got feedback last night just last night you can't live in a theoretical world of like I think this is funny I think this is good you're getting feedback yeah you know it's fun though don't you still enjoy it it's the best it's the only honest uh reaction you could get in today there's nothing virtual about it the most honest form of entertainment because you write it you perform it you you produce it you edit it like I was saying like how easy doing sitcoms was when I first started doing sitcoms like I go they're great writers they write you great jokes you don't even have to work hard and I was talking about how bad my ACT suffered during those days cuz when I was uh first on a sitcom in '94 we were working like 12 hours a day on newo it was long long long days so by the end of the day I'm exhausted so if I did go up it was just the same old material just rehab I wasn't connected to it anymore more I was like flat you know and because when they're writing for you it's so much easier like the jokes are already there all you have to do is like add your little sauce to them flare them up a little bit I know I get so jealous of the idea of like the old days comedians would just have writers oh yeah like what do you got for me we got to go out and think of this stuff a few people still do that right few guys do like I I know obviously the guys who host talk shows do you know you can't write a new monologue every day You' be out of your mind or you'd be I did on tough crowd you did wrote that every day now I'm not saying most of them didn't bomb but I did write them all myself no [ __ ] yeah the when I went to see you on tough crowd the best part of it was you warming up the crowd I was like why don't they show this this is funnier than the rest of the whole show it was so good thanks it's so good it was fun and that crowd was crazy they would come like a l well I was living in California at the time and I I just like sometimes I forget sometimes you know sometimes haven't seen a guy in a while you're like God damn I forgot how funny col is right right you know you just you need to see it you need to see them live you do you need to go out and see it yeah just get in your head it's the best thing I mean I I've been doing it for so long but I still love it I love it I love crowds I love watching it I love doing it I love it it's so much fun and and what's fun about it too is you can't if you if you don't it's like working out if you don't do it you just get flabby and out of shape yeah no no ifans are about about it when I take a like time off I go on vacation for like 10 days I'll have one really good set when I come back cuz I'm enthusiastic and the second set is like a little [ __ ] shaky I'm like what's going on that's great that's a horror but that's the best part about it it's just reality everybody that steps away from it too long this they talk in this ter where it's like oh you got to do the reality I'm mediocre when I get on stage I'm going to be mediocre tonight even though I don't want to be and I'm like hey I really figured this out and guess what I did figure it out and the crowd just let you know that's the beauty how much time did you take off during Co I I did a few shows I mean I did some shows that were like on I did remote shows which I loved remote comedy really I loved it like Zoom comedy Zoom comedy you loved it I love you're the only guy I've talked to everybody else said it was hell because I just read they think I'm looking at them I'm reading my act so any new material was memorized immediately oh was cra every new joke maybe she get a teleprompter what's that maybe she get a teleprompter I've tried teleprompters yeah yeah I wish I could bring them all the time yeah you tried on stage I love teleprompters no [ __ ] yeah yeah it's a good way to make sure you remember your [ __ ] yes teleprompt is the greatest cuz the worst feeling is when you get back to the Green Room you're like [ __ ] that tagline I forgot the tagline yeah or even the intro line so you like of course it bombed I didn't even explain what I was going to talk about yeah I love it yeah tele Brom is great I'm but I've used teleprompters on shows when I did like one man shows in New York and uh and you can't memorize of the teleprompter you get lazy mentally lazy you can't then you go on the road you're like uh you think you'd say it every night you memorize it you can't it's an interesting psychological uh thing I know some guys who uh lay out sheets of paper on the floor on the stage with like bullet points I've tried that yeah yeah it doesn't really work that well it's weird the lights are weird yeah but you can't even see them do you go on stage with glasses on no this is that would help this is one of the first times I've been glasses in public so really I hope the crowd well I wanted people to take me seriously during the interview and it's kind of a Vibe it's a Vibe it's hot on chicks I don't know why I agree a girl who doesn't see that good for whatever reason for whatever reason they just seem smarter hey for whatever reason yeah there's something intense that only became in the 70s that became like a thing suddenly girls of glasses yeah girls with glasses are hotter yeah they had the whole with the whole new glasses I'll tell you certain people just look great in sunglasses the first person I noticed as a kid your one of your Idols Bruce Lee I go that guy looks badass in sunglasses and he had like they weren't completely dark they were like mixed I was like that looks cool yeah he was a cool [ __ ] he was a cool [ __ ] yeah that dude changed the world unbelievable nobody thought about doing karate before Bruce Lee nobody cared well even when he was on the Green Hornet I'm old enough I was there for the Green Hornet days and you like okay that's kind of cool but you didn't think about it but the minute those movies came out we all saw them when they first came out I saw Chinese connection it was called Fist of Fury they changed the titles now but was Chinese connection was the first one then Fist of Fury and then Enter the Dragon yeah those are the three big ones and uh and it was the first time we ever saw somebody with abs yes they're like w how cool that look yes how cool does it look to be ripped yeah look at that look at that come on I mean I hate to say it but my profile pick when I was 19 I basically have the same physique I don't care what anyone says he kind of looks like a twink today though yeah he compare well because nobody lifted weights in those days you know but he was he was the king look at the ABS on that [ __ ] Jesus Christ today he'd be accused of having fake abs yeah yeah he's a badass Bruce Lee gold metal sunglasses oh you can buy them oh yeah but I don't think those are the ones I'm thinking about no that one in that photo looks pretty [ __ ] cool no it wasn't these it was some other look where he just was casually wearing sung what cool dude yeah he was a badass he was a real super he just was a star yeah yeah transcended yeah and and it also was happening during that weird time the weird time in life in the 70s after Vietnam was really winding down it was almost done now we're back to 1968 yeah we're right there right now we're in 19 we're waiting for Kent State to jump off you seen these [ __ ] protests that are happening in colleges yeah first of all these kids are all wearing masks they're outside they're protesting and they're all wearing masks I I say that it's like the democrat's magah Hat that's what the mask is isn't it nice you're letting everybody know you're letting everybody know that you're a part of the clan that you're on the good side yeah I'm masking I'm masking for your safety yeah they just bizarre human beings coming out of colleges today well I fully brainwashed yeah well it's I say it this this way it's it's 20 let's say 20% of them are just 20% of them are are kids that were raised to hate the West everything in the west is bad they're brainwashed if which is really the whole curriculum is 20% of that then I'd say 20% are kids that are they're ba they're the kids that feel like they want to be like like when I was in college like when I was in college remember this is happening during finals week so 20% of finals protesters where somebody came up if somebody came up to me when I was in college and said listen next week is finals you know you're going to fail how about this we're going to give you some money from this George Soros Fender is aent Mo thing just we're going to give you money you stand outside and you block the other not only do you not have to take your finals you're going to block the kids that are going to make you look bad and pass their finals you're going to block them from coming to class I would have said Give me the give me the give me the scarf I'll put it on right now then you got 20% kids are going to be they're like the ones that are peer pressured by their roommates because if your roommates with people in college they know your schedule so they go hey we're going to go protest genocide you can't say I'm going I was going to go to the bar so I half these kids are like God damn it now I got to go out to the protest or I look bad in front of all my roommates have you ever seen when they get interviewed Constantine kissen from uh trigonometry he went to the protest and he was just asking them like what the river to the Sea what does that mean to you like asking questions what what do you think should happen like uh what is what do you think the history of Palestine is like yeah and now they're literally they're literally praying they're praying to Mecca now did you see all the footage of them oh wonderful they're bowing it's like I am objectively like going to put a fat on my mother if she I just want to come out publicly and say it China Russia you guys won you won you got our kids you got the kids you got a lot of them you got more of them than you didn't get no they don't want them listen China China they're teaching kids computer engineering all schools are teaching like you know uh State sanctioned violence in Shakespeare sonnets and you know guys with fake eyelashes reading the toddlers yeah yeah that's what it is that's what Tik Tok is our Tik tok's a disaster yeah yeah they're smart I mean they got us they got us they won they won the ideological battle they've destroyed our universities they've destroyed our fa system they we did yeah but they did they infiltrated the universities it happened way before that in my opinion when did it happen they just went like that all they had to do was go like this you ever see Yuri bof talk about it he's a dor from the KGB he talked about it in a famous interview from 1984 we talk about it way too much so I'm sorry if you're hearing this again folks but he basically laid out exactly what was going to happen to America in 1964 and he was saying yep or excuse me 1984 he was saying that Marxism and uh leninist ideas have been they've infiltrated all the universities with these ideas they're teaching the children's and you have like two generations from now you're going to be [ __ ] well yeah that's what I'm I'm saying it started long before any of this China he he said Russia did it he said Russia was doing it so they're actively subverting our our education system but I feel like the idea of this kind of thing started long before you know before I mean it's been around a long time because people like hey it sounds fair like equality sounds fair right so then they slowly started bringing it in and people the general narrative is if you say if I say to you right now if you say anywhere I think America is a great country people go oh my God you hear this psychopath what an idiot he's the dumbest person I've ever met so I'm saying if you start from the premise that America is evil which is basically the premise today and everything we do is you know based on oppression and violence then anybody that goes against that there's something evil about them yes so I don't think that was Russia and China doing that I think that was us doing it I Russia and China influenced it particularly Russia I think they just agreed they well useful idiots and all that stuff they used to talk about yeah but I think they didn't I didn't think they had F too I don't think you could do it unless people wanted to go along with that well it's also a situation where your universities are almost entirely dedicated towards one ideology that's right you don't have any look there's clearly over history regardless of what you think about right-wing people clearly over history there have been brilliant conservative people and to not address that and to not have those people talk and to only allow liberal people to talk or Progressive people to talk you're going to get a distorted world view and that's what these kids are getting that's well I mean even just the fact that Russia and China didn't force them to stop people from speaking at these places you know what I mean like that's that's what's been going on for whatever amount of years yeah you're like me you know some right-wing guy or you know I mean you're not but but you've been pushed into a category that people are saying you're this kind of guy because they're so far to the left and so stringent ideologically that if you fluctuate you're you're out of the loop and that's that's a cult it is a cult but isn't it it mean it's one of the Beauties one of the beautiful things about America is the amount of Freedom we have of expression and when you have that and you have 330 million people you're going to have a certain percentage of people that are just off the rails insane and if those people are r about it and excited about it a lot of people find that attractive just like a lot of people find Islam attractive and they don't just find it attractive because of the discipline and the tenants and all the different things that seem to resonate with some people they find it attractive CU those people are all in and you want to be in a group that's all in like if I leave they'll kill me they'll kill you if you leave but you can join you can join they'll take you in as a brother oh I want to join and then people just it becomes attractive to them because moderates are considered [ __ ] I talk about this all the time moderates are considered all you can see is a bland guy in Dockers with his goddamn you know with his dad bod and nobody's interested in moderates fence sitters fence sitters I say even in even in Superman you've got Lois Lane she sees Clark Kent Nice Guy's like hey Lois want to have dinner She's Like H just dinner Clark no all right I'm sorry and then Superman who shows up two hours a week who's an extremist just break [ __ ] and she's like so I'm saying we our whole culture is built around extremists right like the the hero in the movie walks away after blowing up a hydroelectric he's never the guy that troubleshoots the hydroelectric Dam that should be the hero in every movie imagine being Clark Kent and you got to deal with this lady just constantly talking up Superman and talking down to you and you're like [ __ ] you don't know [ __ ] yes and you just got to sit there and take it cuz you just can't spill the beans you want to say hey [ __ ] dummy you want just take the glass off were you stupid I'm the same guy but just wearing glasses I tricked you with glasses I catfish you you notice I built like a [ __ ] linebacker you didn't notice that I look like a giant super person yeah oh I just have glasses on so now I'm a loser well because she never slept with them that's why she didn't notice right cuz she was like clar lay off do you think clar would like show off like every now and then like pick something up he shouldn't be able to pick up yeah but I didn't know clock's an incel yeah he is an Insel angry inso a handsome angry football quarterback looking inso yeah yeah he's an inso just to the glasses isn't it funny like that was the only disguise he had was glasses it's the dumbest [ __ ] disguise in all of comic books at least Batman like maybe you had a weird face like if you had like a cleft palet you're like hey buddy I [ __ ] I know who you are but no you know you just just see the little the little face part and the rest of the face is covered like okay hides his voice I'm Batman okay okay maybe it's [ __ ] stupid it is stupid but the um but speaking of uh Bruce Lee The Green Hornet had a mask but then KO was Bruce Lee we didn't realize by the way his a stupid sitcom I'm watching as a little kid we didn't realize there's a lifetime Legend playing the sidekick yeah how many times does that happened never in life and but even then but he wore this little chauff fur's outfit if I remember correctly yep Bruce Lee were like a he was like this sidekick yeah but he was but even then you could see a stalk like even as the sidekick the two scenes you're like this guy's a badass I was like 5 years old six years old I'm like look at this you know he was supposed to be in that TV show kung fu really yeah it was supposed to be about him wasn't supposed to be David Ked and why did he say no they didn't want to have a Chinese guy on TV that's insane and they pck David K yeah but it worked the crazy thing with David K it worked ited that show worked I loved that show I used to love that show yeah it was a great show cuz every episode every episode there was although let's face it that was when you really look at it it was kind of a woke show um a little bit every week it was intolerance and then David car would come and save the day you know what I mean kick some ass he always had to use violence though but he wasn't that great of a martial arts guy oh it was terrible it was nonsense it totally unbelievable but the way he was doing it was like if you didn't know any better you're like oh yeah he's got magic but if Bruce Lee had done that he would have broke not the internet but he would have broke TV wide open oh yeah that would have been the best show of all time whe kicking people and like jumping sidekicking people in the face he like whoa it would have changed everything but the movies changed everything I mean he he broke through just because he was undeniable but oh yeah we That was supposed to be him I'll tell you all the karate Studios Jerome Mackey these were all the karate these were big karate guys back when I was a kid like karate teachers all he opened thousands of karate studios around the country Bruce Lee alone absolutely you yeah it became a thing Bruce Lee and then Chuck Norris was how I got into martial arts yeah Chuck Norris fighting him jeanclaude vanam watching those movies so how about this name Bill Wallace you ever hear him superfoot great yeah he was a great kickboxer and it was a guy name Joe Lewis yeah Joe Lewis heavyweight champion not in boxing but in kickboxing right yeah white guy yeah yeah there was a bunch of Jim Kelly was a great he movies too did you ever do karate or did you just follow it I I mean I I did a couple of classes but I was uh you know it's crazy that you know about all those guys like Joe Lewis how about Benny orz you know about him Benny the jet of course yeah well because um when I I always tell this but when I was a kid the trains were so dangerous in New York like I mean it was this is nothing now compared to when I was going up but what I would do is instead of taking karate I used to buy karate magazine and I'd stand on the train with my legs sped like this and stand and read my karate magazine good move who's going to read a karate magazine unless he's a karate then I ran into ow do you know Owen Smith is a comedian yes from Baltimore I I somehow mentioned that story one night to him and he goes he goes I took you one better he goes I bought a karate Trophy and I used to walk around the streets holding my karate ch that's hilarious so while you were studying martial arts seriously just remember there's a whole bunch of lazy Pricks that bought magazines and trophies just so we were like Stolen Valor people find to work around there a lot of dudes walked around with the Kung Fu outfits on yes yes with the slippers the whole Black Kung Fu outfit with the white collar absolutely to this day they still do and to this day I'm still like oh I don't want to [ __ ] with that guy yeah I I used to go watch them practice in the park and they were faking martial arts they like it was madeup stuff they were doing madeup things what do you mean they the moves are nonsense it was made up and you knew they were made up 100% yeah 100% they were doing stuff that just there's no history of this like I don't study Kung Fu but I understand it I know it I know what it looks like I've watched it thousands of videos on it I've seen classes I know I know what kung fu is you're not doing Kung Fu you're you're [ __ ] you're doing some [ __ ] you think looks like Kung Fu and you're telling people that you're a master and you're practicing in the park and you got a bunch of other dumb people that have fallen you and there's a lot of that out there yeah there was a lot before the UFC came around there was a lot of fake martial arts guys who pretended they had like some touch of death yes and their students were like hypnotized they were like in a cult they would touch their students their students would fall to the ground they're still out there there there's a there's a video absolutely there's a uh Instagram page MC Dojo life MCD Dojo life just highlights all these fake martial artists cuz MC Dojo is like those strip mall places that open up price which some of them are really good you know just just loation depends on the teacher yeah but this this idea of uh like a death touch that people had like some secret powers it's the dream yeah yeah I told you I took six Judo lessons when I was a little kid I should say before the martial arts craze I took and I really wish I would have stuck with Judo but but in those days like there was no like padding so you walk out a class with the worst headache oh yeah of all time oh you're getting brain damage yeah you're getting brain damage 100 you're getting brain damage in regular Judo 100% 100% jud's bad you get brain damage it's amazing it's amazing martial art but you you get brain damage from Ry n jety you do yeah my friend Mark Gordon he he specializes in traumatic brain injuries he's a doctor and he works with a lot of veterans football players Fighters and stuff he's like everything that hits your head is bad like soccer guys get CTE chronic traumatic and seop the things that boxers get and football players get and MMA fighters get soccer players get it from hitting it with their head but how do you get it from a jety The Bouncing just the bouncing then how come they tell you you're supposed to go on those uh gymnastic uh whatever that's called they said it's Health trampolines yeah trampoline yeah I don't think it's jolting cuz that's kind of like catching you and lifting you up and catching you and lifting you up that's a different thing than boom boom boom it's the heavy dudy shaking headbanging like Angus from ACDC got to have brain damage yes there's no way he doesn't there's no way he doesn't that dude has to be gone I mean but who the hell goes on a jet ski more than like once a year let's think about that um some jety people that really love them jet skis are fun yeah I have a jet ski I love it it's fun but if you bounce around on waves you're getting brain damage that's how delicate the brain is man the brain is not meant to be jostled around and guys get concussions from getting hit in the chest if you get hit in the chest your head snaps back and you get a concussion it happens all the time you don't have to get hit in the head to get a concussion well yeah yeah but that's that's why I it's a good thing I stopped Judo because every day you have a horrible headache I was a little kid you also these guys crash oh my god well that's different that's Ski Jumping I but this is what the article on skiing was bringing up oh my God that's insane that dude hit hard how hard they hit oh must be nuts they're going third it's like a so this is a water skiing tournament is that what that is that's what that was yeah but this is like an article about water skiers getting CTE oh yeah have to No Doubt no doubt they have it no doubt bet I bet dolphins have CTE I bet they don't I bet they Glide right into that water everybody always says how smart they are I'm like yeah they seem really intelligent sometimes you're dismissing the intelligence of dolphins yeah when anybody bounces a beach ball on their nose and that's there they're the valid Victorian of the animal kingdom that's enough for me I think you have to do that if you're trapped in that swimming pool if you want to get fed I think you'd put that beach ball on your nose too that's the problem the problem is we're so evil we'll take intelligent things and lock them in a swimming pool if we can't understand their language like what what I don't know what you're saying do you want a fish or not here's the ball [ __ ] that's what it is out in the wild though they're awesome they play with you they come hang out they go by your boat they they jump and they they literally want you to see them they they play with people you can swim with them they'll save you from sharks if sharks are coming they'll fight the Sharks off they save people from sharks all the time they have a cerebral cortex that's 40% larger than a human beings what yeah 40% they have dialects they have different dialects like you talk like you're from New York yeah you know I I have like a little bit of Boston a little bit of California like all [ __ ] up if you they can tell from Dolphins listening to their their vocal patterns where they're from now wait a minute but they can't decipher it yet but they're hoping they can do that through AI first of all if you don't have a routine about dolphins accents you're crazy I'll steal it if you don't do I had a bit about dolphins about take a true story is a true story I I got on very high Edibles with my daughter and we went fishing and uh these Dolphins came by the the boats and they were jumping up in the air and then I I had this crazy thought that what if the the concept of me like we think when you think of yourself as I you know when you refer to yourself me you're thinking of yourself living in this world with these genes and this city and this street but the thought of me like what if me to me is the same as me to a dolphin and then I thought like what if that's the same with all human beings everybody's just experiencing life through different biological circumstances different life experiences but what if me is the same in every single human being just diff dealing with different problems no what does that mean I don't even understand what you're saying what I'm saying is that when you think of yourself you think col Quinn like when you think like oh I'm looking at the world this is me right that energy of what me is this is how high I was I was on like 200 Mig of uh pot edible on a boat in the middle of the ocean in Hawaii just amazing experience but I was thinking the like when the Dolphins would jump up they would look at you they look you in the eye and you see that they're intelligent right and I was thinking like what if I lived his life I would be him and what if he lived my life he would be me and then what I think of as me is just me stumbling into a bunch of experiences with very particular genetics and very particular like life lessons that I'm carrying around and I think that's me but if the energy of me the very core of it is exactly the same in everybody we're just experiencing life through different circumstances but it's the same thing that's God yeah what about um the uh you know I was thinking about when I was thinking about the whole martial arts thing too was uh when you think about dolphins fighting sharks or saving people from sharks that's almost a martial art too oh yeah well you ever see what killer whales do to sharks noo there's this video of This Mother killer whale oh yeah they [ __ ] everybody up there's this video of this by the way they save people too and the only time they've ever killed people is in swimming pools they save people all the time killer whales save people that fall in the water save them they eat everything they kill dolphins they kill whales they kill everybody but they don't kill people we we kill them but they don't kill us it's the only time they've ever killed people on record I mean there's probably been a few circumstances where people were [ __ ] kill com got was coming some [ __ ] tried to Harpoon their sister or something you know I'm sure that happened but the the point is like killer whales don't actively Target people and it' be really [ __ ] easy to do so check this this killer whale [ __ ] this shark up so she's out there with her look at this boom wow she's out there with her Cubs and she just puts the [ __ ] clamp down on this great white it's pretty wild but that's it also makes you realize how big killer sharks are or killer whales rather killer whales killer look at that boom yeah I mean I just saw some the other day of a killer whale around a boat some little boat and it was just you could tell the guy's like oh God it's over for me and then the well didn't bother him like said yeah they generally Che them out don't [ __ ] with you and I think you can kind of talk to them I think if you I think they understand if you're like hey you're cool like you know if you're polishing up a big metal spear with a a rope on the end of it then they might get a little angry they probably [ __ ] you up I bet that if I bet if there have been people dying because is this the guy look at that little boat deeper oh he got bumped oh my God what oh it's right under wow waa you guys getting this yes let's get out let's get out of here by the way but that was a gentle bump that was nothing no this was something else but how about that is that not the battlecry of today you guys getting this yes it is that's the most one thing anyone could say the gram we got to get it on the gram you guys getting this do you even have Instagram yeah you do sure do you make reals do you ever make like positive hey guys you can really do it push through it you ever well I kind of ironically as you know I've been doing that for years I'm kind of a soccer mom on soci made it just to infuriate people that's my whole game but I do uh you know I've been doing this series called blocked by block on YouTube which is um with this guy homeless pimp you know him Mike Lavin but we do I didn't know you were doing this yeah I know I have a bunch of episodes where I interview it's it's my little you know like the thing I care the most about about doing which is I interview people from different neighborhoods that in New York that I know over the years and then just get them to tell stories about the neighborhood so I was my friend from Hell's Kitchen M BL so this is it here I didn't even know this was out there yeah yeah one of the problem with really great comics and I include you in there is that you guys are terrible at promoting things yeah I know you know what I'm saying yeah but it's also why the stuff you put out is so great because you're only thinking about the stuff you're not thinking about promoting the stuff which is a totally different animal and we wouldn't know where we would only come here where else would we go we don't know well doing it yourself like doing your own promotion or like letting people you know like getting but I this so I interviewed this one guy Mike's Blain from Hell's Kitchen and and their famous family over there he's telling all stories of the but one of the stories which you would like was him and my friend Robert who died and his cousin they're in a bar it's like 1980s and and Midtown so Hell's Kitchen is connected to the theater and all the Madison Square going so in the bar some guy starts with Mike's Spain he hits him the guy's friend grabs on his neck it's Andre the Giant oh my God they're in a fight with Andre the Giant oh my God and he picks him up and flings him and it's like a whole famous story of them fighting getting their ass kicked by Andre the Giant oh my God and then the cops come and grab them outside and arrest them and the cop walks in finds out what happens sees Andre and just walks out and laughs goes let him go don't worry about it so like just finding different stories of different neighborhoods that's my little thing for you know back the day before Instagram where people wen't snitches that exactly right so that's all I'm just talking to these people and finding out all the great stories from that happened today Andre would be all over the news people be angry at him oh my God everybody have an opinion on all of it oh yeah and when this guy was telling the story I go so people must have been buying you drinks for months he goes at Hell's Kitchen that time two weeks and and then there was some new story happening he goes that wasn't even the story of the month what a great name for a neighborhood Hell's Kitchen yeah what a great name oh yeah I mean you kind of have have to act crazy if you're there they did yeah they they if you're going to move to Hell's Kitchen that's a very specific mindset it well now of course it's different but it was the most just imagine a neighborhood in the middle of Time Square when Time Square was taxi driver so they had to deal with all of that the theaters so that all the stage hands were there M all the teamsters were there that was a combination of everything all the music studio linkoln Center on one side all these and the in the middle is all these crazy irish guys in Puerto Ricans yeah just so and so much music and so much stuff came out of that area it's crazy it really is when you really think it's really wild wild the center of the universe they used to call it and for how long like 20 years uh like 50 60 50 60 really it was that high hot for that many years well hot in what way I mean like the interesting aspect of it the interesting aspect I bet was 4 40 to 50 years I would say from 1950 to 2000 2000 what killed it Giuliani no it just became well it became Time Square you turn Time Square Time Square became gentrifi jul yeah gentrified and um and people started to cortiz word yeah it's like it became Applebees but it did it's disappointing but at the the same time it was Sodom and gamore it was very bad it was very bad when I first went there when I I was living in Boston I came to New York for a karate tournament Ironically in like uh 82 83 I think so I was in high school so probably 83 and I was like this is nuts like this place is [ __ ] nuts it was nuts it was nuts it's like all peep shows and pimps and hookers yes and just it looked black and white like like this like even though was like in color like everything looked black and white it looked dirty and seedy and there was just junkies on the street and people with like long coats and people yelling at people and you're like yo this place is nuts Times Square was a place that everybody avoided that's right somehow or Another Time Square became a tourist trap well because of Giuliani juliani cleaned up the peep show there was a law I guess where you couldn't have you had to have like 30% legitimate in your peep showell there was some law that happened where they got rid all the legitimate what do that mean 30% like a a regular store like you couldn't just have all porn some obscure Lord I don't know what it was Joey D Roa sandwiches but that's basically what they did do they had to have a legitimate thing and then the porn in the back or something oh God and that was in the mid90s and then it got cleaned well they used to have the trip xx movie theaters that's right where you know you want to talk about the lowest class of human being that you could possibly encounter in public guys going to jerk off in a room with other guys jerking off watching a movie yeah of course just the most degenerate humans available was in Times Square too it was all over the No No the whole country had those oh yeah every city had Times Square just had 50 of them well the craziest story is the craziest story is deep throat Because deep throat they were trying to turn it into so the the country was so naive back then yep and porn you didn't have VCRs so you didn't you the idea of a porn addiction seemed ridiculous to people so what they did with deep throat is they made a cinematic movie that was a porn film and all these Stars went to go see it like Johnny Carson was there in line they were interviewing them were they're going to see a porn film yeah yeah and that's only like 1970 something 72 or something like that and couples would go all over the country and go to these sleazy theaters and watch deep throat wild is that they weren't even sleazy theaters these were regular theaters that showed deep throat yeah isn't that crazy people are so that's like that's so interesting like you think about how much porn like right now porn is what percentage of the internet Jamie is it 30 something percent yeah it's like 30 something per of all internet traffic all of it all of the world is porn that's crazy it didn't even exist before deep throat no like you had stag films that you would hear about yeah my brother-in-law was getting married went to to stag party and they showed a movie this like grainy movie of this like sad heroin addict [ __ ] these guys like that's right yeah they're gross who you ever thought that would be on your phone the mafia yeah I know exactly but but it's so funny because I remember deep throat was the big breakthrough first it was the devil and Miss Jones I was like 11 to 12 and I remember we laugh about we didn't know what we were laughing at and then next you know we're like 19 181 19 we're going up Time Square porn and um you know we're right there you just take the train you're right there and um but it was so psychotic that and I actually knew I knew a girl that ended up going into like working in those Times Square booths and I'm sure a lot of people did but it was really crazy to me that she was doing that you know wow that is crazy that's a commitment yeah I mean the boots and out of that lifestyle wof there's a judge a judge in New York made it a $3 million fine for showing deep throat in a theater it still exists it's never been overturned apparently wow whenever this article was written oh this is 93 but wow movies and television have completely changed our outlook on the human form so he was 71 um at the time when he was talking about this and uh so this is on the eve of his retirement in ' 91 so he was probably in his 50s when that happened so he had grown his whole life been a grown adult and never had any interaction with porn and then he sees people going to see it in a theater he's probably like what the [ __ ] is going on yeah like this is crazy like you guys are watching people suck dicks with your friends yeah like this is weird yeah yeah it was totally legitimate for a couple of years I don't know when it turned but I remember when I went to when I went to college they showed deep Thro on one of these Debbie dubs Dallas one of these porn movies in like the Student Union what and guys and girls all went to see it no way yeah it was totally you know what I mean and there were a couple that crazy and there were a couple of girls that like this is anti-women we're like oh relax why are you making a big deal like we have like oh are you crazy isn't that crazy it's crazy and people just go they had like they showed it like a whole week I'll tell you another one what a week yeah like every night cuz so many people want to go see I'll tell you another one one of the guest speakers talk about college gigs Harry Reams was one of the guest speakers porn star famous like 1980s porn stars yeah he the big mustache 7s mustache did you grow to be like a giant real estate guy maybe but it in real estate I'd like to talk to him someday because this girl I knew I still remember her name but I'll leave it out and she drove him she goes yeah I drove him back to the train station and I was like you don't need to drive him to the train station you could walk there she drove and I want to know what happened I want the full story after she's not going to give it to you she lied to me she goes nothing happened she she got turned on she got turned on by seeing that guy's dick she got turned on by and so I'd like to speak also it didn't it wasn't like forbidden back then this is so hard for people to imagine cuz like today if you're watching porn on your phone and someone catches you you have a deep shame yes oh you call me watching porn porn is a thing that people are ashamed that they consume but back then that was not the case it was innocent in the weirdest sense where people just didn't get it they didn't get it no like when I was a kid VCRs were invented and one of the first things when they invented VCRs is they start making dirty movies and putting them on VCRs and the porn industry just explodes right it's all from people watching at home and you'd have to go through these [ __ ] saloon doors remember or you'd push the beads aside there was always something you had to do you couldn't just go to the porn section you had to let everybody know hey you [ __ ] pervert Make Some Noise rattle those beads right and then you walk in there and no one was looking at anybody everybody's likeing everyone's embarrassed that they're in there with other people maybe your neighbors that's right see Bob's over there looking at the [ __ ] hardcore section yeah right that's what it was people were like I'll be in the porn but that section is for perverts that was the thing yeah and it became a thing where people weren't embarrassed by it it was weird and then slowly over time it became embarrassing I think when it became an addiction thing I think clearly when the internet came around and people had instantaneous access to it well it's funny because as more as as as much as sex became more like like I remember in comedy we all had bits on jerking off to porn when I in the 80s right we all had which is hard to imagine nobody gave a damn I mean isn't that weird we all just talk about hey you ever SE porn cuz it was new like you said and then suddenly people stopped talking about that because it was shameful I don't know what they I guess it was when it's the addiction when you're when you're ashamed of something you shouldn't be doing that something almost always if you have to lie about the thing you're right you know like I I had a friend and he was always trying to lose weight and uh one time we said hey uh M us at this bar it's Ralphie May I'll just say it yeah cuz he's not with us anymore love Ralphie great guy he was awesome and Ralphie was like it was like an hour and a half later like where the [ __ ] is Ralph like he hasn't when's he coming here and then finally he pulls up and the back of his car was just filled with fast food stuff yeah yeah and he had like some story about why he couldn't make it he went to a drive-thru he had to he went through drive-thru and he bought bags of food and he just stuffed himself yeah and he probably felt shitty about it and didn't want to talk about it sure that's addiction that's addiction the same thing if you're watching porn on your phone all the time people like do you watch porn pH like no I don't watch that it's cuz you're addicted you're ashamed sure you're ashamed but like you said 30% is crazy crazy is it is that what the number is do we find out what the amount of traffic 30% I'm looking to like the Golden Age of pornet at an 84 it says which the golden age that's what that's what this I'll tell you why AIDS well this VCR is also so so it's sto being you didn't have to go to the movie theater to see it you could watch it at home great that was that oh 84 is when the VCR came out wow around around then that's like the same sense cuz that was I was in high school but you there was a great scene in Boogie Nights when Bert Reynolds is so disgusted that he has to do like amateur porn remember like he used to be a filmmaker oh right and then suddenly they're in the limo and he's going okay do that and then they remember he was like so horrified by it all I forgot I forgot that movie that was a great movie great movie and uh they said Bert Reynolds you know the director all these people said Bert Reynolds was so horrible he was so brilliant in it he didn't want to be in it from day one he hated everything about it really and to his dying day he hated he wanted want he wanted he fired his agent he hated it and he was so brilliant in it well Bert Reynolds I'm a huge Bert Reynolds fan the greatest I love that guy he was so fun he made me believe that like a handsome man could be funny yeah I never thought handsome people were funny like the handsome guy was never cool the handsome guy was like cool but silent like maybe wins a street fight is like always smiling it's like I want to hang out with that guy he he was a party he'd go on The Tonight Show with that big laugh had that giant laugh he was the first guy that I ever really saw that was like a really handsome man that was hilarious and he was best friends with deloise yes and they'd be incredible yeah well how about when he did Jackie gleon Jackie gleon and him with Smoky the Bandon what a combination Jackie Gleason and Bert Reynolds wait the Jackie in that movie and I'll tell you who else cuz I remember when I saw catty Shack for the first time and I was like a young kid and I'm like oh catty Shack my heroes are in it Bill Murray Chevy Chase all these cool guys even Rodney and I go and then they got this guy from a sitcom Ted night and then he steals the movie and the same thing happened with Jackie gleon smoking the Bandit yeah these guys stole they were so good it's unbelievable Jack gleon was the [ __ ] man yeah Jackie Lea was the man it was UN he did Serious acting too he was in the Hustler oh yeah he was amazing he was great in the hostler did you hear they said some review some famous back when reviewers were famous goes I just it was Lawrence Olivier and him did a movie together he goes I just watched the movie with the greatest living actor and Lawrence Olivier Jackie is so good oh he was awesome best pool player to ever be a movie star by far yeah he was like a real good pool player like a professional level pool player oh yeah yeah you could see even the way he played yeah in the Hustler he the he was making his own shots when Paul new would make his shots he'd be like this is not real this is nonsense but when Jackie gleon did this a smoo a fluidity to the way he moves around but now why would you remake the hust look we all love monst made Itor money color money color money was a separate book well it was a sequel but even so but it's the same it was the same author it left a bad taste in my mouth really yeah oh it was a great movie too it's a great movie too very accurate too he did the uh remember he did the uh flipping the pool que mhm that's a little nonsense people don't do that but especially not with a balab bushka but what he was doing in the movie like portraying how people hustle and move around that was all real and it's by the same guy who also wrote uh the Queen's Gambit do you ever see that show on Netflix amazing show amazing show about that girl who's a wizard chess player yeah yeah well that's the same guy Walter Tevis right is that his name yeah he wrote The Hustler how like compelling is her face and her oh yeah you buy it all in whatever you just buy it yeah you buy all of it yeah you're really there with her she was awesome she's really good yeah what is her name Anna Joy what is her name I'll never know Anor but the Anna Taylor Joy fact at least he bothered that's one thing about Tom Cruz he doesn't play games he's in the color money he learns to do like Nunchucks by the way nunchucks were big when I was a kid n Chucks just came out oh yeah when I was a kid and people have nunchucks everybody walking around with black ey cuz nobody know how to use them you just saw it in the movie there was no YouTube tutorials and even the these teachers the martial arts teachers didn't know what they were yeah so the guys walk everybody had a black eye for like a long time yeah I banged myself in the back of the head multiple times you did back of my head crack now when you did this karate tournament in the year 80s in New York is it are you guys striking each other yeah wow and it's full contact like they well the karate tournament that I went to in New York was was called a point tournament Point tournaments were different than Tao tournaments in that um there wasn't continuous action you'd hit the person and they would stop and call a point so it's almost like this really highlevel game of tag right which wasn't really the thing that I did I did Taekwondo tournaments primarily which were like continuous action and you would win by knockout a lot of times and so you're basically just trying to kick this other dude in the face or in the chest as hard as possible and and stop his body from working right that's that was my objective it was like the Kum yeah it was like that a little bit but in ta tournaments you couldn't punch to the face you could only kick to the face and kick to the body and then I transitioned from that into kickboxing but it was it was like when I went to New York City we were trying to do anything we would try anything we would there wasn't wasn't that many tournaments so if there was no Taekwondo tournaments we would enter into karate tournaments we would go I fought like probably I probably fought a 100 times wow yeah and was there if I imagine if I counted all the tournaments cuz often times you'd fight three or four times in a day no kidding yeah in my my last kickboxing fight was the third fight of the day I had three fights in one day I won the first two fights and I lost the last one wow in a day that's crazy you imagine it's good to be a kid huh it was going to be stupid if I had a kid today I'd say hey you're not fighting again you just get hit in the head over bruises all the time and stuff you care yeah well I always came home from training and bruises yeah and from fighting yeah yeah you get [ __ ] up yeah you get black I always had black eyes I broke my nose I don't know I probably 20 times W I had to get it fixed wow I had to get the inside of it all cleaned up and it all calcified like a wrestler's ear wow you know wrestlers get Cal calcium you get smashed in the nose enough what happens is the inside of your nose all that tissue swells up and bleeds and then it gets broken and your septum gets twisted and blocks off and then you get like calcium deposits inside your nose just like you get in your ears like a cave like a little like rock yeah well it was horrible I couldn't breathe at all I had very nasle voice for a long time until I got it fixed and it was like 40 when I got it fixed wow yeah cuz I kept breaking it cuz I was like I'm just going to keep breaking it it's like what am I going to do like I I broke it like three times when I was on news radio you did yeah I was always breaking it sparring or just rolling you accidentally get a knee to your face and then your nose is bleeding like well I broke it again I you working out with like Benny the jet and those guys in the valley I actually started at the Jet Center when I first moved to Hollywood that was the first place I went to that's great it was like there's two places I wanted to go to when I went to Hollywood I wanted to go to The Comedy Store and I wanted to go to the Jet Center in Van I found out about it I was like it's the Jet Center isra and uh when I was there uh Blinky Rodriguez who is uh Benny's brother-in-law amazing fighter too like a great great kickboxer he had lost I believe a family member to gang violence I don't want to say exactly who it was cuz I'm not sure if I remember but I want to say a son to gang violence and then if if it's not that I apologize and then so he offered free classes to gang members so he wanted to teach these gang members like discipline give them a sense of like community and and and give them structure give them something they could so I was taking kickboxing classes with gang bangers like I move from New York and I came to La I didn't have any friends and here I am in my Volkswagen Cado pulling up to uh the Jet Center and Van eyes and I'm taking kickboxing classes with gang bangers like this guy had this [ __ ] tattoo on his back this homemade tattoo of the name of his gang it was like Platos and then underneath it it said [ __ ] the rest I was like oh boy like this is you understand this is 1994 this dude's back has his gang and then [ __ ] the ass I was like yo what am I doing so I had a spar with these guys so I was sparring with these gang bangers and you could I like they didn't know what they were doing like a lot of them right but you couldn't I wouldn't hurt them I'm like I'm not going to hurt this guy you know I'm just going to like touch him a little bit you I'm just going to like just give a put a foot in his face I'm not going to hurt him I do not want to get shot in the parking lot I do not want to get stabed you cannot humiliate one of these guys so you just move around be defensive with they swing punches just work on blocks work on moving footwork touch them a little bit but there's no like going after him that's great it was scary it was [ __ ] scary these guys were murderers yeah Ben Ben I was a rough area by the 90s super rough it was super rough and um but a lot of great kickboxers were there too it was also like Pete Sugarfoot Cunningham was there and you know Blinky was there teaching classes which was to me was like as a kid who grew up watching him on TV to be in their gym I was like holy [ __ ] this is crazy but then unfortunately the earthquake [ __ ] up the roof and uh when it rained when the rainy season came the whole building got destroyed the the roof was all [ __ ] up you the earthquake I was there right after the earthquake and then the rain came after that and their their building was [ __ ] So eventually opened up a place in North Hollywood and I went there for a while but it was just Benny it was a smaller place I went to uh I was at in La during the earthquake during that 94 earthquake and I was staying in this like temporary housing place on uh on it was across from Northridge but it was in on like in Westwood district and I wake up and I go oh my God I'm dreaming that my bed is flying across this entire room oh my God my bed flew across the room and it was it was scary man oh my God I mean my bed was F but buildings were collapsed all around me people were in the street at 5:00 a.m. in their underwear the whole city oh oh my God the whole neighborhood I mean I was only in a small earthquake I was in a 5.5 and I was in my apartment in North Hollywood and it was like I was in a washing machine box or refrigerator box where it just had no stability like the I was like what I thought an earthquake would be like everything's shaking no everything moved everything moved it just moved side to side and I remember thinking oh [ __ ] it's like having vertigo but it was it was I was just thinking this is a baby one this is like a a five yeah so a seven is how many times greater than this holy [ __ ] yeah it [ __ ] up uh North Ridge and Van n got [ __ ] more than any place another reason why I was glad I got out of La in time I'm like it's coming well if you guys think you got it bad now all the [ __ ] in the streets and all the tents and wait till a earthquake hits that mess well about two weeks ago I was in New York and I go oh what the hell was that oh yeah and it was an earthquake yeah earthquake in New York crazy was crazy that's so unusual yeah I never even heard I never even heard of about so this earthquake in Van eyes it I guess it [ __ ] up the the roof of that building and it condemned a lot of buildings it destroyed a lot destroy that whole area North Bridge is right next to vanise yeah they just it just the place flooded there's a photo of me Jamie there it is there's a photo of me like a black and white photo of me a long from a long time ago throwing punches and it was Tak taken at the Jet Center the original Jet Center yeah it was like 1994 there's like this photo of me I look ripped I was young and healthy back then great right yeah back in the old days kid had most of my hair yeah it's crazy right yeah that's it whoa that's me at the Jet Center in 1994 [ __ ] you like Sean Conor I I don't know what's going on with my lips but great I was in the middle of throwing punches and you used to go there all the time huh yeah yeah and they had a photographer there one day and did you when did you pass at The Comedy Store 94 you did you passed right away no like 6 months mity yeah mity gave me six months she didn't like that I was already on a TV show oh you were already on the show yeah I was already on news radio she didn't like that oh that's why you went out to LA yeah I went out to the LA just for news radio I never I had no uh interest in acting right right it was I was pure being a prostitute I was just willing to go on but one great uh first thing to be on yeah all I cared about was stand up I just wanted to stand up right and then I was like okay maybe this is my career now okay maybe I'm acting now you know and then I'm all a sudden I'm doing this stuff and I was like this is weird I had no acting classes before I was on TV no nothing I took they when I got a development deal with Disney they made me uh get an acting coach yeah so I did a couple of one-on ones with this lady and I didn't like it is it was there was a lot of like weird ego stuff going on and she also wanted to be my mom in the show like there was a lot of weird stuff oh yeah of course but it's just like that world was not I'm was not interested in that world and I was like this is not I just I'm just going to do my best I'm just going to do it the way I would do it was just pretend pretend this is actually happening pretend I'm this dumb guy Pretend This is actually happening but I I didn't know what I was doing like I didn't know where upstage was I was on television like Joe could you move like 6 in upstage like which way is that like which way is upstage like it's flat I didn't know that old stages used to be slanted and upstage meant you move backwards which is kind of crazy instead of saying would you step back move upstage like everybody's using these old timeing terms for a slanted stage so that the whole audience who's seated there could see everything because they did it in front of a live crowd but that must have been fun doing in front of a live crowd it was fun it was fun when you got good lines but you didn't really get to control like the first show that I did was terrible it was called Hardball that's what I came out to LA for I think I remember it was a baseball show so that got cancelled and then uh then I got lucky that uh I uh had a development deal with NBC right after that and I was going to do my own show but they said hey we got a A Part on this show that we're already going to do and we're going to recast it and so it was originally Ray Romano I know yeah so Ray got fired yes and then they replaced it with a the guy and that guy got fired and they which made me feel better cuz at least I didn't take the job from Ray I took a job from some guy even if you did Ray but obviously stunk and he just got what he deserved well it was the best thing that happened to him because then he went you know uh and but I love Ray and so it was weird it was weird but it was okay because the other guy got the job first and then then all a sudden I'm on this [ __ ] show with Phil Hartman and Andy Dick and and Dave Foley I'm like this is crazy like I've been acting for all of like four months ever you know I did one terrible TV show yeah you know two acting classes here you are and how long were you doing stand up at that time six years so that was good you in the game I was in the game but I wasn't that good yet I was said you work with Philman I mean Phil harman's one of the legends of all time he was a sweetheart too what a great guy he was a great guy like a genuinely interesting weird guy like I don't know anybody like him I mean he did the uh for My J he did the Crosby Stills n album art M we have one of his albums we have one of his albums out here isn't it crazy that he was an artist yeah he's a brilliant artist he was also a pilot when I bought my house in in um in the valley he took me to these areas with his plane took me over to show me like areas where he could move to he was living in Ino and I think I was still in Ino at the time too and I was like I had had a stalker and so I really I'm like I got to get a little further out you know this like this is too this people knowing where you live things just too weird I got to go to a place that's more secure and so then when I moved out to the valley Phil took me out there on his plane to show me areas when you're flying over these places you see all these trees and the hills and the mountains I was like oh this is beautiful I'm going to live here and just drive in that's way better it's great yeah and you guys went Burbank we did it in a bunch of different places we did it at CVS Radford for a while Sunset Gower we did it for the most I think I love it there yeah radford's great great lot Jerry's Deli and everything's right nearby tell's gone it is I think it is all of them are gone huh I think it is I know the one in the valley uh in Woodland Hills is gone that was a bummer man that was fun oh that place was so good in the '90s I was just talking about La in the 90s how you could drive around to Jeff and there was traffic was nothing now it's you can't move yeah it's uh overpopulation in cities makes it way more tense yeah like people are way more tense now than they were in the 90s it it was like a way more relaxed City that's hard to believe cuz everybody in their head is like La is like beep beep [ __ ] you everybody everybody's doing coke and on their way to a business meeting right back then it was like you could get to work in a half an hour wasn't that big a deal now it's a [ __ ] if you where I used to live in the valley if I wanted to go to The Comedy Store Comedy Store is 22 mil mil from my house it would take me 22 is I'm guessing but it would take me hour 10 minutes hour and 10 minutes at you know at 7:00 now if I try to leave at 5 it's 2 hours I need two hours if I have a meeting in Hollywood at 5: I have to leave my house by 3: or I'm [ __ ] oh it's that's crazy it's ridiculous that's 2 hours to go 22 miles and that's normal and that ain't even Long Island how about people making it into the city in the daytime yeah you ever you ever get stuck in that mess coming from the island and try going going across the [ __ ] Bridge oh Jesus Christ it's crazy you just want to jump off the bridge yeah and guys do it every day just they could have a lawn every day every day just they could have a lawn yeah just exhausted well also taxes lower I'm sure taxes but also you want a backyard I want a backyard and when Saturday comes along I want to sit with a cup of coffee on my [ __ ] porch and see a deer maybe that's right you know let me [ __ ] relax a little bit do I really have to be a part of that [ __ ] concrete horeshit cuz there's something about living in the concrete horeshit that some people love I love it they love it I love it yeah you love the energy right just all people around you everything happening I like to yeah I'm just so used to it it's my you know I mean but I liked La when I lived in La I loved LA but I lived all over LA but you know and I like driving but that's the thing in La you just have to be in love with your car if you love your car you love La if you don't love your car you don't love La that's a good point that's a good point and in La the problem that if you you're [ __ ] around with like a Tesla with 30% power yeah you got 30% battery left and it's 300 p.m. like oh buddy you might be [ __ ] you might be like really [ __ ] like you might be your car might die on this road you're [ __ ] scary yeah you're [ __ ] you got to drive 2 hours you got to drive to San Diego what yeah you can't try to S no you're not going to make it it's going to be 5 hours they say all the people that commute to La now like they call they don't just car pool they apartment pool so they don't go home they go to work Monday they stay till Friday and then they go home that is so insane that's so insane they have to rent an apartment together I have to stop saying nice things about Austin stop saying nice things about it yeah there's too many construction cranes there too many know everybody knows just me the day but uh there's so many companies moved here just there's so much [ __ ] going on here so I don't want this to become like that yeah I think there's something about Texas though that Rebels that will always Rebel and they realize how bad people [ __ ] it up in California and hopefully the people that moved here realize how bad well they' always been yeah they've always been they've always had one foot out of the country Texas let's face it they came in came in real late reluctantly yeah and they they they've been here reluctantly they got one foot out yeah like we don't need we we'll leave well when you know about the history of this country this this land this area I mean this is a brutal brutal Place yeah like you ever read the Empire of the summer moon no oh my God I'll get it to you you got to read it it's incredible it's a history of this place it's the kamanche Indians and the history of the Texas Rangers here yeah I like that the the C the the madness yeah I mean I clearly what what the colon did what the people moved here what they did was horrible no one has ever denyed that but if you don't know what the commes were doing other Indians if you don't know these raiding parties would do of course they they did some of the wildest [ __ ] they would start a bonfire and right before they threw the guy on the bonfire they would hold him out by his arms and legs hack off his arms and his legs while he's still alive and throw him on the fire to watch him squirm like a worm unbelievable they would feed people their friends they would cut people to pieces in front of you they to No One surrendered ever you always fought to the death because if you were captured you are 100% going to get tortured and killed tortured and killed for no just cuz that's what they do for fun there was no prisoners of War there was no honor there was n this European [ __ ] they were doing it old school old school and that was the entire country except for the agriculture there's a lot of people had accepted agriculture in the Southeast and they were like calmer and not not war bearing they weren't even riding horses a lot the commanches were the horse bearing ones they were the best with horses and they were the most fierce and they only ate meat so they could go for days without food unlike like some of the the settlers some of the people that were trying to make it across and some of the people that they fought what about um yeah I've been reading this book speaking of Cruelty Jerusalem it's about the history of Jerusalem so the early sieges and the oh the same torture techniques but you know who gave it to me this guy do you know Kevin Fitzgerald yes comedian but he's a bodyguard for the Rolling Stones yeah I just worked with him last week and he was just you know he was telling me the stone stories he was bodyguard for 20 years for the stones he tells the greatest cuz he's very intelligent guy but he was a boxer that became a bodyguard for the stones and then moved on and started doing stand up and he's also got like doctorates and veterinary medicine but he started tell me do did you ever hear this one about MC Jagger about uh the people in wheelchairs because you know you just feel like oh Keith was a cool guy Mick was a Mick Jagger every day every show for 20 years would take this guy Kevin put on a hoodie so nobody could recognize him go up because in those days they put the wheelchairs in it if you were in a wheelchair they wouldn't let you be with your friends they'd put you in a separate wheelchair section in the balcony everybody in the wheelchair had to go mcj would go up with eight TRS t-shirts hand them out never told the Press never made sure nobody knew about it except this bodyguard and talk to all the people in wheelchairs and give them t-shirts and give them a tracks for 20 years wow Isn't that cool that's wild but this guy tells a million stories you know he's been body go for 20 years wow he's got great stories that's cool how do we get to him what were we just talking about uh Jerusalem and thees and the torture techniques so this book on Jerusalem like what I've thought about what is the name of it Jerusalem a uh a history or something I've thought about reading about it and I get anxiety I'm like the book The the just not not that particular book but about Israel and Palestine the but this book goes back to the be yeah this book is really I mean I just saw I've only read like the first couple of that it's amazing is it this book that's the one it's crazy and crazy place it's wild and it starts out you're like oh my God it started on the most bloody but somehow everybody knew it was significant even then like it was never this place that people weren't like they were always like no this is the place what do you think about that do you think does that make any sense what is there is there a place that's more holy than other places um you mean like Sedona yeah like Sedona is a good one that's the good one for hippies right for hippies believe Sedona is like a sacred Place yeah well I always feel like there well even when I was just at the gig I was at the gig with um Kevin Fitzgerald it was in uh the where the shiny is in Colorado where they shot The Shining that hotel yeah and so they go it's haunted and I'm talking to the kid that works there and he goes listen he goes I didn't believe any of this [ __ ] he goes I've worked here for two years it's real he goes Lucy they knew the names of the ghost Lucy she's a redhead he goes I open the mirror when I'm here alone at 1: in the morning cuz it's kind of a really out of the way place you know yeah he goes this these he starts describing all these things that happened you're like oh God so I do believe this place is sure yeah I think there's there's something to some of it there has to be yeah what is why are they willing to kill each other over one place CU they think God's coming to this one place like what do they know what it's it's so it's so important to them like how about you're going to love this book cuz this is exactly the point how about Mecca how about how many Muslims travel to Mecca and you're you're you're absolved of your sins yeah you go to Mecca you make the pilgrimage and they all go around and they're they're essentially walking around a meteor yeah it's a meteorite right is it yeah I think that's the center isn't that what it's the center of that box in Mecca I think that's what it is look at that wow I mean when you also like how beautiful is that if you go there you probably really believe even I mean it probably even if it wasn't true would have that effect on you just psychologically going to this incredible location all these people and everybody's peaceful and nobody's talking about Medina nobody's talking about anything Mecca and Medina and they always talk about Mecca it's like Springsteen and John C Medina uh that's the other one the other one um so is it say there's a stone there building but isn't there Google meteor or meteorite it's where the uh yeah it's where uh Muhammad first saw the uh thing right I think there's there's something to the um okay there it is oh there it is yes yeah the embedded Blackstone was a further symbol of this as a meteorite that had fallen from the sky and linked Heaven and Earth yeah it's crazy that they got one spot like they'll fight over that spot you can't have that spot they do that's oh yeah imagine if like the United States wanted to put a military base on that spot like no you got to take away your religious spot it's not real take away your spot that would be a real deal breaker that could be a deal breaker where's Medina oh there's Medina right next to it they just spelled it different I keep thinking about Tyler Perry's character Meda that's Mecca that's Medina and Medina was cool too oh yeah they always say Mecca and Medina oh really yeah I only heard Mecca I know because people pray to Mecca they don't Medina but how come I think you have to go to both so is it like uh it's a major Islamic they're really downgrading Medina I don't like this yeah the tombs are there the Tomb of the Prophet Muhammad and other leaders are at Medina is it like Simon and gar funcle that's that like one of them they just who for everybody gar fungle he was great gar Fun's great what happened he was great oh what happened yeah some those gar fugle those things happen although I'm sure they wouldn't of all the people to be compared to him don't think s and gar fugle what they' want to be compared to if you know what I mean I know what you mean I do know what you mean they say can you name somebody else please but I wonder what it's so specific about that area you know yeah no I think mohamed's from there or something mhm yeah and then just and and also the areas in Israel the those these areas that are you know oh yeah the wall it's well that's this Jerusalem book is really getting into and I'm like oh my God just the early stuff that's happening there it is okay it's known as the site where the Prophet Muhammad received the command to change the direction of prayer to Mecca oh so that's where he learned it oh yeah yeah it's a it's a weird time for religion for sure it's also a weird time for the Jews like I've never seen more anti-Semitism like openly yeah public and openly yeah than now yeah like just regular anti-Semitism not not even towards these particular Israelis that are bombing Gaza right just across the board yes as if some 24-year-old kid in New York is responsible for what's happening in Palestine right just cuz he has a star David on yeah it's crazy it's crazy it's there the internet is also got a group it's got a group hysteria like a mob hysteria to it and then people are just like yeah yeah yeah and get out all your things on that 100% that's exactly what it is and uh it's also a bunch of people that have been bullied and they've been marginalized and now they're a part of a team and then they bully other people absolutely it's that old hurt people hurt people thing it's absolutely there's suddenly you know what it feels like to be in a gang only you don't have to worry about physical repercussions exactly and that's a good feeling yeah Power destroy people you got power yeah yeah yeah it's wild wild it's changed our psychology completely or our is a little bit but the people are grew up on it have a whole different psychology they have a whole different mind than we do yeah they do yeah and there's also a lot of like really mentally ill people that are addicted to it well that's yeah of course of course that's a big part of it right and you watch you watch them get more and more obsessed each day you watch them become uh more and more compulsive and more and more as you see it I've been over the years I've seen it people I've know yeah they go they fall apart I know quite a few people that have like really falling apart because of it yeah yeah have you ever thought about going to the flip phone a flip phone yeah I don't even know if I had a flip phone back when they came out disconnect like Dave David tell he's all flip phone he is flip phone when he texts he had a text when he was making a text in here it's like it takes forever it takes him forever to write a letter I like when that guy Christopher Nolan did you see his wife gave that speech at when he went the Academy Award this year no and she gave the speech she goes uh she was the producer I guess of the movie and she goes and my husband who doesn't have a phone never had a phone never had a computer this guy does all these Hightech thing he doesn't own a computer or a phone wow isn't that weird it is weird Tucker Carlson doesn't have a computer either wow doesn't have a television I remember hearing in the 990s Quinton Tarantino wrote his scripts by hand like he never used even a typewriter or computer and you think a guy like him would be into it well a lot of people like writing things by hand in fact I'm pretty sure JK Rowling wrote Harry Potter by hand wow yeah pretty sure she wrote it by hand see if that's true I think she wrote it by hand first and then uh typed it out later um I mean that's that's a that's so amazing I also think that's how Bill Clinton wrote his autobiography my life yeah he wrote it 99% sure he wrote it wrong it's crazy to me yeah I wrote first two Potters by hand wow type them on a 10-year-old typewriter all the writer needs is talent and ink that's insane that is amazing that's amazing handdrawn plot map for Inception wow that's nuts thoughts out you know that is nuts wow what a psycho no computer that's CRA and this guys does like the most advanced screen his movies are always like maybe that's why maybe he realizes like he has more band with for concentrating on something that's really important to him and less less room for nonsense but the but those things You' think they would give you more time for that kind of thought but no he yeah I think but I think they also distract you there's so much distraction online it's so difficult to do work and I guess if you just choose to not engage in it at all then you're only concentrating on work cuz you're not checking your favorite sites you're not seeing what's on YouTube you're not see and him and JK ring both go in the magic realm they go into another realm so maybe that's how they get there well especially JK like she created a whole world she really did a whole world of wizards and lost kids and you know magic spells and great [ __ ] amazing yeah and now she's in trouble oh God she thinks men are men and women are women I mean it's just insane that she she can actually have that kind of insane opinion how dare how dare she how dare it's psychotic because she's in real trouble everybody's like oh she's not cancelled yeah I mean she's making her money because of her books but don't act like she's not canceled you know well people are there she gets death threats I mean it's like she's sick SI it's weird it's a weird time it's weird the weirdest that that's a big part of it like people like that can all get together people that think that's okay can get together and act as a gang and everyone's so terrified of them they just kind of let them do it yeah and nobody nobody like stands up and says what the [ __ ] are you doing yeah everybody just kind of quiet even even people that are on the left they'll they will support the people that are cancelling her so that they don't get cancelled yeah you see it happen all the time yep instead of saying hey you know she's a wonderful person and she has a a right to her opinion and you know it's very reasonable opinion in fact yeah what are you saying crazy what are you saying it's terrible yeah and they that's why they're so adamant about getting you to comply there can't be any debate on it because they know it's ridiculous so they have to like fight you with tooth and nail trans women are women yeah you're like okay all of them are you sure are you sure all of them maybe you got a few psychos in there that are pretending yeah no no okay it's crazy yeah and those are the ones that go after JK ring the psychos yeah yeah and you know at least she stands up that lady's got courage she's got a lot of Courage yeah she's won't stop talking about it I think she probably probably took her forever to realize like this isn't going away so this is just what it is [ __ ] you TR try [ __ ] you truth of the truth [ __ ] off [ __ ] off they I had Riley gains on the podcast do you know who she is oh yeah the swimmer yeah that's that's a crazy case yeah you just let a guy starts swimming with girls cuz he says he's a girl and when he wins you go well I guess she's the best you're like excuse me I got to clean my goggles for a second I think I saw something you imagine when we were kids this ever being a legitimate issue that's like National it but it's just everybody in the sidelines is watching the pool gone yeah they should all be able to vote like everyone should vote like at every one of these things like how many of you think that a biological male should be and if you say yes and if it wins then the biological males can comp that's absolutely right if everybody says no no you can't do it but that's the thing instead of just saying look we all understand trans people deserve rights they get abused we all agree but you can't be on the swim you can't be with girls you can't fight girls you can't you just can't all the other stuff rug girls you can't no you can't even play basketball against girls you're too big stop but saying that is really considered hate speech I that's what's nuts despite but that's where it's anti-science because if you just want to look at it objectively if you didn't think of it as a man and a woman just to took it took it like an equation if you just looked at the numbers that are on one side of this equation if you're trying to pretend that these two numbers are equivalent and you look at one of them and it has uh much greater lung capacity much stronger heart denser bones different hip structure less susceptibility to ACL tears different reaction times if you just looked at this just the the system just a system of what it means to be a male human being and compared it to like the elite of female human beings you'd go oh this is not an equal it's not equal it's just not equal yeah and I guarantee his his sad part also is I guarantee most trans people feel the same way and they can't say it right because they're not trying to they'll be considered sellouts if they say it in their Community they'll be considered sellouts and they're not allowed to say their opinion what I think there's a rift now between a lot of gay people and trans people lot of gay people are like look I'm not a girl I just like guys they're like you don't don't say I'm CH and you're encouraging young boys to change their gender yeah and they're not going to be able to come anymore like if you're encouraging them to get the operation which is crazy cuz they're doing thousands of them you'll never have an orgasm again you they remove your penis it's gone they create a vagina you have to keep it dilated with a thingy stuff up there are you sure are you sure you know yeah wait till you you know 35 at make those decisions yeah if you want if you're a 35y old guy and you want to become a girl God bless you God bless you but that's the thing I think a lot of trans people agree with all of this I do I think they do too and they just they know that they're not allowed because they don't want to throw the baby out with the bath water and it's like there's a lot of exactly things going on with it like why would I sacrifice against my community when I'm just going to get screwed by both sides on it that's that's the other thing goes on with the internet hysteria is that suddenly if you deviate at all you're out in bed sanding with everybody yeah well that's a problem with d transitioners the people that transition and have deep regret they get attacked they get attacked it's crazy yeah and then gay people who say that they wanted to be trans when they were younger but then they realize they're just gay when they're older and thank God I didn't do anything those people get attacked yeah but that is that's a large number there's there was a study about that about how a lot of the people that thought that they were trans when they were younger if in time they're just gay yeah but when there's a thing that you're told like Oh no you're this then they give you hormones which adjusts everything literally changes the way you feel sure and for uh girls to boys it alleviates anxiety which is a a problem because then you think this is what I've always been now cuz you're you're taking testosterone like of course you're going to feel different and now you're saying oh this is how I always was if it is how you always always were you wouldn't have to take this exogenous hormone that's not it wouldn't be necessary if you think you're a boy just be a boy you know you might just be a gay girl and if you think you're a boy and you're you're a girl just live your life the way you want to live your life absolutely but if you start injecting things into your body when you're 14 or 15 years old you'll never be the same again it's just you don't have a chance at normaly it's gone if you change your mind and one day you decide to have children you might not be able to you you might have ruined your voice you might have changed and masculinized your features permanently forever and you might not have really wanted that you might have just had anxiety I mean I started smoking cigarettes when I was 14 even though it's a different thing but it's the same they say if you start smoking before you're 18 you have the the chance of dying young of lung cancer a thousand different oh yeah it's a years thing right how many years you smoke yeah I mean but it's what year you start too the crazy thing is like when we were kids people hadn't really got it in their head that smoking was killing people yeah which hard they fought that so long they did such a great job bullshitting people they did such a great job of saying it's probably not that bad for you because smoking looks cool does look cool it still looks cool I see those old French Italian movies I'm like oh man they're living they're [ __ ] sitting there smoking badass it's also the idea when you know it's bad for you that this person doesn't care that it's bad for them they're living for now yeah well that's true too that's a person in the moment just living for now [ __ ] the future I remember when I was 11 I had to go down to I wanted to buy a 45 record I'm from the days there were 45 records and I asked my aunt could I have a cigarette because you had to walk two Avenues and each block three blocks and two Avenues and every block there was a group of kids also 11 years old that were up at that hour hey you that's what you didn't want to hear he kid like oh oh [ __ ] so I said if I have a cigarette I'll just it wasn't lit and she gave me a cigarette a terton and I walked down the block with my cigarette nobody was out anyway but you know that was my move that and the karate mags yeah that's those are two good moves and the six Judo glasses young kid with a cigarette look at this dangerous little [ __ ] probably got a knife but the the kwate magg you had to really commit I literally had to stand on the train like this and a horse dance yeah and stand like this with the magazine open the Train's moving like this middle of Subway M who's going to do that a karate guy yeah yeah smart it's definitely better than putting in all that work you don't want to do that sadly that's really my motive was out of a lazy person yeah you don't want to get hit in the head a bunch of times you know how many guys I know can't breathe out of their nose [ __ ] large percentage of them but how about Owen Smith he went and got the trophy that's even better that's a smart move so funny he's a funny dude man oh funny just trophy that's so hilarious such a funny thing to do I knew a story about a dude who is a a fake black belt uh he actually wind up killing a guy um later on in life wow he wasn't that fake no it's it's it's a crazy story but um the guy was just an just a compulsive liar pathological liar and uh he claimed he was a black Bel in some martial art and a lot of people started getting real suspicious of him um what he did was he made his friend drop him off in the woods and he brought a duffel bag with him and he said he was entering into a Kum like a no rules Kum karate fight in the woods and come back and pick me up here tomorrow so the guy shows up the next day and now he doesn't have the duffel bag but now he has a trophy that's the same size as the duffel bag and he said he won the tournament and so he gets in the guy's car and the guy drives him back he's like what what wow so he's telling he just made up a karate tournament in the woods and had his friend drop him off and then had a bag that he brought with him he was so not clutch like brought a duffel bag what's in the duffel bag oh you know whatever A F karate tournament whatever my gay there's a karate tournament um well trophy in there guess you you tell them I'm the kind of got it's like yeah I like that kid you call a compulsive liar I call him a creative thinker who want credit for his uh martial arts he he was uh apparently allegedly banging this guy's wife and um uh found the guy got the guy like in his karate studio and strangled the guy to death and then was seen driving around in the guy's car and uh eventually got arrested for it now wait a minute he was he had karate studio yeah yeah he was a fake black belt that had a martial arts studio oh my God yeah and he actually had some uh people that trained with him that were legit martial artist that he just didn't know and he was like kind of just proficient enough in the [ __ ] and and got some guys who actually knew a little bit and yes yeah right he's just like hey do F to push-ups for 20 minutes I could teach you how to choke a person pretty quickly it's not hard to teach someone how to do this with your arm and that with your arm right it's just being able to do it to a person is very difficult but I could show you very quickly how to squeeze it off and you would be really effective at it and so that's what he did to this guy like like he strangled him to death he he got behind him and he just choked him to death and then he stole his car just driving around I don't know what they did with the body I don't remember exactly what happened but I remember like cuz we had already confronted that guy on being a fake my friend Eddie actually had a very uncomfortable phone conversation with him while I was with him where he's like you're full of [ __ ] man like you're not black belt there's no [ __ ] way you're a black belt it's like cuz he was he was telling him he did another thing while we were together like he went to uh Thailand to uh compete in some uh mixed martial arts fight and he had just learned this move called The Twister very difficult move to pull off and he came back and he told Eddie that he he won his fight by the Twister and Eddie was like what what the [ __ ] are you talking about like how did you do that you don't know how to do that like you you don't you're not good like he knew he had rolled with the guy he knew the guy was terrible and he was saying that oh I'm a a black belt in Japanese Jiu-Jitsu it's different like okay but he was like no he's he was incompetent he was like a white belt on the ground and so he knew when he said he won this match like he didn't really go to Thailand like this is fake this guy's a nut and so Eddie had separated from him and then after that we hear this story that he killed this guy and was driving the guy's [ __ ] Jack Jaguar around town like holy [ __ ] wow yeah don't you think that compulsive liars like I feel like there's not enough research on what it is because sometimes you'll be like that's not true and they look at you and they you're not embarrassing them they part of them believes it's true or they just they're broken I think they're bro they're broken they don't care if you uh if you feel good or bad they just want you to buy their story yeah yeah they're not really there they not really connecting to you that's their only mission in life is it's not even sometimes it doesn't even uh you know benefit them and they still that's the most important thing to them have you read about guys who have like pretended to be doctors and set up practices and operated on people and I went to one the guy I went to one in um yeah this is in the 90s and I'll tell you the it's all over the paper Dean I forget his last name but he's in prison right now for Life Dean I I'll look it up later but anyway somebody tells me I had like a a a cyst on my arm so they go oh I know a guy that'll take it off you know he's a good dermatologist Dean something anyway so he sets up an appointment and it's on a Saturday at a doctor's Park Avenue it's but it's Saturday and I was like oh cool I'm off Saturday I go over to his office I walk in when I think back now it was like nobody no reception is just him he goes he I'm just working Saturday on myself he goes I let the receptionist off I was like oh cool I go in the office it's kind of dark you know but it's doctor's office and I don't know I guess he worked for the doctor when he had the keys or something was in and he slices the thing off it kind of hurt it it it healed very badly but it healed but it was not a great job I remember thinking I'll never go back to that guy he overdid it you know yeah you it wasn't the Novae was weird whatever anyway like four years later Dean pello fa fi I was waiting to make sure it was the right guy that's the guy sheds light on botch procedure that left New York woman dead nearly 20 years ago oh my God he buried her he buried her under con under a concrete slab in his garage it's a good thing I left my own opin holy [ __ ] A Psycho guy yeah and he was like really like he looked like uh you know he like well quaffed hair and his crazy eyebrows the guy yeah but I knew him 20 years ago he looked much better he buried I don't know exactly how they were talking to him I was I he got out no when he was young that's that picture doesn't do him Justice creepy looking what's that was he creepy yeah you got to see the young when he's young the picture of when he's young he looks like not creepy but he just looks like he would do it yeah there he is on the left that's Dean yeah that's when they caught him yeah wow fake doctor Dean fiello feared something would go wrong yeah I went to him do you think did he have any medical history I I he must have worked for an office because he had the case to the doctor's office he must have been like a re a crazy person he was receptionist or something yeah and what year was this where he was doing all this stuff he from Madison New Jersey um most likely succeed by his classmates wow wow conr construction before beinged at despa became skilled at hair removal yeah 1996 he began his own practice this skin Ovations from an office on Park Avenue wow the blood vessel removal tattoo removal and this he's he's selling himself short he also removed [Laughter] moles wow that must have been the office Park Avenue in 73rd so how did she die how did this lady die let's see he had completed the same procedure on cruise over a dozen times before without her experiencing an allergic reaction to Lian oh he was not licensed to perform this procedure admitted doing at least 14 times on cruise alone he went on to claim that after some time Cruz had bubbles coming out of her mouth and her body went limp by his own account he delayed calling for help allegedly attempting CPR but could not get her to start breathing again he adds that despite being previously certified in electrolysis for hair removal he didn't have the proper training for what to do when a patient goes into shock Jesus Christ what a crazy person an unv verified claim made by felo uh who is not licensed or trained to make medical diagnosises and claims that he didn't know how to check for a pulse he admitted walking away while she while he believed she was dying of shock fiello later called a doctor he knew personally to explain his version of what happened to Cruz according to Vanity Fair reporter Brian burrow the doctor told him to either call 911 or Rush Cruz to a hospital emergency room instead of helping Cruz fiello shove Cruz's body into a black suitcase which had been stolen days earlier from his housemate Mark Mark Richie fiello claims he put the suitcase containing Maria Cruz in his car and drove straight home then he left her in the trunk for two days before finally removing her body into his garage which was just undergoing Renovations it's unclear whether Aunt Maria Cruz was still alive when Fel be began to try to cover up his actions Cruz's wallet and purse were discovered by foo's housemate inside a black gym bag placed under a rafter in the unfinished ceiling of the garage in August 20 2003 just one month after fiell was kicked out he later admitted in June 20 2003 nearly 3 months after Cruz was killed that he had buried Cruz's body underneath the garage before pouring cement right before a sale of the house was closed boy boy and see what I said the numbing agent didn't work that doctor just kept his [ __ ] mouth shut huh the doctor he called yeah yeah that doctor never told nobody yeah that's kind of creepy that's really creepy like the doctor never go hey man what ever happened to that lady yeah he didn't even ask so like nobody even knew and all of a sudden she was if that [ __ ] didn't leave that gym bag behind he might have gotten away with it he probably would have I'd be going to him today I mean in 2003 how good were they at catching people yeah not as good right no but isn't that funny when I just said the numbing agent didn't work and that's he obviously tried to oh God okay in the aftermath of the call between mutual friend oh the mutual friend of Fel oh he did rout him out they both realized felo lied when he stated he got the woman to medical help and that she was fine boach searched the house now Fel wasn't there and while looking in the garage recall fiello using concrete just before moving out batch remembered how uncharacteristically secretive he was about the project and his over reaction when Bach walked in on him pouring concrete according to New York State detective Lieutenant TJ [ __ ] uh box information gave us the break in the investigation we were hoping for uhhuh was his ex-boyfriend oh Brian Ford received a tip from fiel's ex-boyfriend Greg Bach okay so that's who Bach is Maria Cruz's body was recovered from the property now occupied by new homeowners boy can they get their money back I want to [ __ ] live in that house this lady was underneath the garage you're parking your Honda over a dead lady yeah for months well think of how many people don't know that that's happening in their whole life yeah a lot yeah yeah anyway so that was my guy yeah he was a compulsive liar Jed murder machine sure yeah yeah those guys were something huh yeah that was uh Joey Diaz turned me onto that that book scared the [ __ ] out of me about Roy de Mayo Meanwhile my uh friends that grew up around there they when they were little kids they were telling me they used to throw snowballs at the old man's bar that bar they're like a they throw Snowball the old men drinking there meanwhile they were just slaughtering people in that yeah they're throwing little 12-year-old kids are like the old bass you know throwing Mafia snowballs is the mafia still a thing I mean I don't think it's I mean it's still a thing but I don't think it's nothing I mean when you think about how important the mafia was in the 50s and 60s and 70s it's in and even the 80s but it's insane how much power they had Vegas I mean they probably killed Kennedy I mean or had something to do with it but they even if they didn't they had so much power over so many Industries it was insane well we got to you got to remember Kennedy [ __ ] them over yeah because they got him in they help get him in they helped him win they say that but how much did so they got him Chicago you know what I mean it's a lot yeah I guess so but I mean uh yeah and then he turned on him well he let Robert turn on him yeah yeah Robert turn on him not good but here's the weird thing didn't Robert turn on them in the 50 was that the I feel like that was before Kennedy was president but maybe he promised to lay off and then he didn't really but I guess that's why I I would love to that's the one thing I'd like to see before I die I'm sure everybody would I want those Kennedy I want those papers did you hear what uh Trump had said about them what that you don't want to see them or something yeah he said if if they showed you what they showed me you wouldn't release it either but what does that mean he said he's going to release him if they that means they that means they threatened him probably means they threatened him what else could it mean well I me because you wouldn't want to release it either it's like what what's going to happen it's 60 years later what could it be could be it could destroy the CIA yeah yeah that's what I mean that's why yeah that's why you should release it that if you were the president and they told you that what would you do you go well you know what the public deserves to know let's destroy the CIA or do you say you know what we're going to hide this and you're going to give the CIA even more power but I'm saying here's the thing if you're killed the president whatever this was 2019 right yeah what you would do is you would say this CIA was nothing like today's CIA that was back in 1963 you know what I mean that's all you would say you would say that was the Terrible time in our history and thank God there's been several changes you know what I mean I just don't know if people would accept that except that the CIA hasn't has changed yeah I don't think they would I I think it would open up scrutiny that would be almost impossible for them to do their job the way they do it right now oh they just changed the name of the organ they changed IM immigration ins became ice became ASI became you know what I mean change the name of the CIA how dare you yeah what are you a communist change it to uh the uh Cal intelligence agency I know I never like that name anyway it's stupid you know what I mean there got to be a better name what do you what do you uh what do you propose the uh United States uh over the over well let's think of something has be something like you know like the overlords how about the that's what they are information overlords let's just cut to the chase the information overlords we decide what gets out we find out what's happening how about the American Shadow boys oo I like it Shadow boys sounds like a cool band yeah yeah that was like like a cool bluegrass band The Shadow boys six Street like some dude with a banjo they play six Street yeah that's actually sounds like a good band The Shadow boys I like that I'm good at band names are you give me another one I tried to make my nephew back 20 years ago he was trying to be B I said call yourselves do you know what cuz that was one of my favorite jokes you hear that parot joke you you hear that parrot joke about the guy buys the parrot he goes you don't want to buy this parrot he's got a filthy mouth and he goes ah I can handle it parot comes home the par goes hey mister mister he goes what he goes go [ __ ] yourself the guy goes don't talk to me like that smacks the cage par beats up the parot he goes don't ever he goes I'm not the guy to play with like that next day he comes home p goes I missed Miss he goes what he goes go [ __ ] yourself he goes you piece start smashing almost drowns the P he goes next time you tell me to go [ __ ] myself I'm gonna kill you I promise you I'm gonna kill you next day he shows up from after work par goes hey M Misty goes what par goes you know [Laughter] what I forgot that joke that's a good one that's a good one that's what they used to do in the old days cat skill guys they just go up there and tell jokes um there's still guys that do that [ __ ] yeah I hate to say it and I always get jealous because I'm always like God damn it they work every time right they're great jokes yeah all those old jokes people like oh that's an old joke it's like yeah and they're great jokes but you know we would never do it if we would never lower ourselves you know the weird thing about great jokes is who wrote them where do they come from get I tried to get I I used to live in the same same building with Jackie Martling The Joke Man Jackie The Joke Man so one time I go Jackie he well this like 15 years ago I go we're going to do a documentary we're going to find out all the jokes where they come from who wrote them I said because you must know a lot of this because he knows every joke ever written you know so I go you you must know some of this he goes no I don't I go what he goes I don't know any of those I go you you know all these jokes your whole life is built on it you didn't bother to try to find he goes I have no idea where they came from so even he doesn't know that's what ibody knows isn't that crazy isn't that weird that nobody some of these jokes are amazing and nobody knows nobody knows where any of them came from it's weird it's weird and some of them are great where did they come from and that's also we we have that with memes now and some memes you know who did it because they put like a watermark on it and they post it on their site some memes you get in a text message chain someone just sends you something you're like and then you send it to your friends and they're like and nobody knows where it came from and some of them are some of the funniest [ __ ] things I've ever seen online fun really funny really funny yeah where does it all come from well you're getting now especially especially with memes you're getting the input of millions of people and there's so many people out there that could have been comics and just chose not to be they they either they didn't try it and they have a mind for it or but they're funny and so they get their funny out on sneak tip they get their funny out when no one's looking they take a picture of Taylor Swift and they do something to it and they write something underneath it and they post it up there and they was like and that's how they're doing comedy yeah they're they're getting that out in this way and when you're sourcing from millions and millions and millions of people like we're doing currently probably more probably billions of in English-speaking people that are contributing to the meme pool of the world right cuz you have all these other countries with millions of people it's probably a billion plus people that are doing that yeah and they're all online and out of those you're going to get a few thousand hilarious people that have never done standup and could be a d AEL they just never did it right that's right yeah I mean those Minds exist oh I used to have a few friends that were really F we had this friend Al our friend Al would worked in an ambulance he would come home every night and remember he would have an experience every cuz he's an ambulance right he would come back and tell us stories and people would be the next day and we'd be crying because every night the way he told he was a funny guy yeah and he would just talk about all the abuse he took as this driver so I pull up and and he he was that kind of guy like you said he could have been a great comic yeah there's a lot of guys like that the funniest guy I ever um knew who wasn't a comic was uh a guy I work for he was a private investigator his name was Dave Dolan he used to call himself Dynamite dickas Dave Dolan they like leave messages on my voicemail I still have a phone number that I haven't gotten rid of I have this phone because it has a voicemail on it from him before he died and he was uh a private investigator he lost his uh license drunk driving and so he needed someone to be his uh driver so he put an ad in the newspaper for uh private investigators Apprentice I was like oh I'll try that I needed some other kind of a job to just sustain myself I was trying to make a living doing standup and so I drove the guy around for 6 months until he got his license back and we did a lot of private investigative work oh my God he was hilarious he was so funny he was so funny about everything he was always funny he was just on he was everybody he talked to they just start smiling the moment they started talking to this guy he was a Charming dude he was smart as [ __ ] he was just very very funny and he was I would be crying and I I remember telling my girlfriend at the time I came back we went out to dinner that night and we were eating I was like I'm not anywhere near as funny as this guy and he doesn't even want to be a comedian no like it's so cuz I was an open micer at the time I was just starting they're just funny he was just funny I mean just the [ __ ] guy had a funny take on everything and he was a drunk but he's quit drinking like that never went back to it never never fell off the wagon was getting hammered every night and then went to nothing and was still had the sensibility of a hilarious guy at the bar he still act like a drunk he was Stone Cold Sober he had no filter dick Dolan yeah yeah Dynamite D Dolan Al caner same thing yeah there's funest just would come out and just roll 20 new minutes a day it always makes me think about that Billy Joel song you know I'm sure that I could be a movie star if I could get out of this place right sing us a song The Piano Man I mean there's there's a lot of people out there that just never just never tried it never went for it never tried do something and there's a million things is he getting away you know have you ever heard of Foresters syndrome no I was looking up the origin of knock do jokes and this popped up dur in this article that said in Europe incessant word play became treated as a psychological condition oh my God Jamie's got to go to a hospital manic punning people that were compulsively punning that's that's Tony hinchcliff right Tony hinchcliff would 100% get locked up compulsive punning in inappropriate jokes was known as Forester syndrome in the 19 I guess that's back when people you need to go to work there was only work joking joking hold that up again s joking just got in the way of things well especially in 1929 a Austrian psychoanalyst AA Brill was exploring a malady termed witel how do you say that yeah that sounds wh shooked wh sh an addiction to Wise Cracks according to psychology today German neurologist Arrid Forster identified manic puning in what eventually became known as Forester syndrome wow and then I guess people got tired of it and they lumped knock knock jokes in there like there was like in the radio in the 30s people were like knock knock jokes were everywhere had clubs of by the way would this not be a great movie yeah it would be a great movie like okay so we all agree basically that the first real standup in terms of like the way we do it was Lenny right Lenny Bruce yes he was the first so he was the first guy to just talk about stuff Game Change yeah just talk about stuff and make it funny instead of just have like a series of jokes that anybody could tell well not anybody but right yeah yeah but you know like Catskill guys they could all so many of them were just joke tellers yeah no he was a game changer yeah who who have you seen live who did you get a chance to see live did you see prior live no never I had Carlin on um on uh tough crowd oh really that was fun oh wow wow that must have been awesome that was really awesome my whole all my family my family never really you know come to show I'm from New York so my cousins everybody they've been in my shows over the years but you know this is already a hundred years they're not going to come I I forget how I knew but I told them the whole STS there was 40 or 50 of my family my cousins my uncles my aunt because calling for Irish people of a certain the that Cath that routine he did was like it's the first time I saw comedy have that power to he like they would just listen to it and just laugh over the Catholic School experience that traumatized that and this guy did 13 minutes explaining it that 13 that's all that bit was 13 minutes and it changed their whole lives and so they all showed up and it was just a really power and he was said hi to you know like he understood like he went out there and was like hey how you doing to them who was really interesting look at little skinny Jim yep little young baby face Colin Quinn Jim demanded to be on that show by the way yeah he loves call oh yeah look at Nick depalo Young and handsome Greg Geraldo wow that was a great show do you think you'd ever redo that show would you ever want to no we talked about this last time I feel like it was what it was at the time and it's just but you were so good as a host thanks thanks have you thought about doing something like that where you host something with Comics well when I did when I did I did this cop show on YouTube it was a basically like a Law and Order show and I started having comedians on and I was planning on making it like like I would have Jim on but it would the plot would involve insulting him and like attacking him and then Bobby Kelly came on and he's dressed as sister P Like a Villain and he's like complaining about me putting him in this you know women's outfit and Keith Robinson so it became sort of like that's what I would do but I mean it it uh I ran out of money but I mean but that's I did a bunch of those cop show type things I think T crowd in a lot of ways was the beginning of podcasting yeah I think a combination of the Opie and Anthony show and tough crowd yeah because those are the first places where Comics got together and just talk [ __ ] and be themselves and talk [ __ ] to each other and were riffing and and and laughing at each other and having a good time together yeah and you saw the caderie which that's you didn't really see that with comedians you saw them on stage by themselves telling the routine you never saw them sitting down together like that no no yeah it was definitely uh it was definitely an interesting thing but I thought I would do it in that form the cop sh thing because that was more you could still do it and you could make fun of the culture at the same time it was another way of doing it but anyway I did that for a while but but uh you know but that show was groundbreaking cuz like you you guys would dis you would cover like cultural issues current news events things that were happening you get all these Comics have a take on things and then and then trash somebody's personal life too in the middle of it and there's uh there's Clips on on Instagram like there's a there's one channel that has all tough crowd clips and you go and watch it you go oh my God these guys are be in so much trouble today oh we'd be gone even back then we got in trouble I know but it's it's just crazy I mean we're talking like tough crowd ended 20 what 2004 2004 20 years wow 20 years ago is that crazy crazy that's 20 years ago oh God boy it makes no sense time is just a [ __ ] isn't it it's ridiculous it's so quick it's terrible it's so long and yet so quick yeah so much experience and yet it just all happened just a little while ago Jesus but so long ago 20 years is a long it's really long time it's insane to me it's it feels like it it was yesterday it feels like it never happened it feels like both it feels like it was just and like it was never it never occurred like it's a movie I watched right right like if you watch it you won't even remember what you said and you think about Geraldo and Patrice these guys had long gone you know want to hear a crazy Geraldo story this is really weird I went to a movie recently and uh I'm leaving the movie theater and uh I went into the bathroom and uh as I'm leaving the bathroom this guy walks in and he recognizes me and he said hey what's up and I go what's up and I thought it was Greg Geraldo for like one second cuz he was like he was taller but he looked exactly like a young Geraldo and my brain I didn't expect to see him and so I opened the door and this guy's there and he says what's up to me and I think he recognized me cuz it's like no Greg's dead it's crazy and this isn't Greg like this is crazy and I'm like hey what's up man how you doing nice to meet you and but so I recover and I walk out and then I'm like oh my God I tell my wife I said I just thought I saw a dead friend of mine yeah I for one second I thought it was him I know it sounds crazy but it I was so happy to see him for that one second before I realized it's like a dream yeah it was horrible but it was great it was like for that one second it was great cuz I was like Greg yeah but it wasn't him and they're going forever he was uh on the same set as me uh when I was doing um uh news radio so we were doing News Radio at one one of the build and his building was right next door when he was doing his sitcom that's right so we would always hang out together in the parking lot and talk [ __ ] and watch Joey Lawrence get into his car I mean that's when you see of course yeah he had a sitcom there too yeah they had a big Scandal recently some charmal thing right didn't they what who lawren Brothers really I thought I thought I saw something for real I didn't hear about that yeah I think they were involved in that maybe what is it I don't know because there's also a lawsuit about one of the things I don't know sorry there's a lwuit about one of those now I don't know Google that I I haven't heard that story at all but he was uh he would play his own music in his car oh Joe like at Mercedes yeah plays all music rocking out must been fun be a beautiful handsome 19-year-old with a sitcom he's probably like 19 20 years old probably that older than that just playing his own music in his car I was like look at this guy I love it when you run into another comedian on when you when you're involved with non-comedy things yes Matthew Lawrence that's what it was my agency fired me after I refused to take my clothes off for an award-winning director right whoa whoa so they were involved in the victim side of it yes he was supposed to be like a a superhero movie or one of these things oh Jesus Christ o it's creepy when you find out how much of that stuff is real yeah it is you know the more they unveil the more stories come out unbelievable kids and Nickelodeon like the Nickelodeon guy Nickelodeon was watching that doesn't it make sense though like if you were a [ __ ] creep you'd want to work with kids there's been many times in my life where I've been propositioned to get a huge role Lawrence says in the podcast I lost my agency because I went to the hotel room where the actor alleges a prominent director showed up in his robe asked me to take my clothes off said he needed to take Polaroids of me and said if I did X Y and Z I would be the next Marvel character holy [ __ ] yo if he's telling the truth yo yeah you know who else was on the set Lenny Clark oh he was yeah Lenny Clark was on that uh show with um um uh what the [ __ ] was his name he had he played a judge he used to be on the Harry Harry something Anderson God damn it he had a show it was a show was his name John larette yes the John larette show so pull up the cast of the John larette show did you ever hear that survey at lety Clark that when he when he first got sitcom in the 80s I I saw him out there in 91 whatever it was there it is look at Lenny so I knew Lenny because I the second time I ever got paid to do standup I opened for Lenny and uh Lenny's like kid you're hilarious he gave me all this great advice I was like holy [ __ ] Lenny Clark from HBO he said I'm funny he laughed at me like this was amazing and so uh years later you was like five six years later Lany and I are working on sitcoms on the same lot just right next to each other but the story is what you know he got his own sitcom Lenny mhm back in like 91 and uh he went to the bank and he says I went to the bank I think you told me the story maybe I heard it on a show but he goes and they go uh well Mr Clark you can't buy this house we need this collateral he goes here's my collateral he showed him a TV Guide he was on the cover on cover of TV Guide back when that was like a thing he got robbed he did yeah his agent he had he was a part of uh I think it was AG agent I know crazy but I think this one person got like Jerry Seinfeld got got I knew those guys of know that story Spotlight yes that's it yeah not star Spotlight Spotlight yes they [ __ ] everybody oh yeah they were they stole millions of dollars right whatever happened with all that they were in uh I don't know but I think they were very connected in certain areas what I heard yeah so nothing happened not good nothing happened damn yeah got robbed yeah a lot of people lost money it like a Bernie made off type deal almost that's right for for comedy yeah yeah I mean of it's It's we'll handle your money Colin don't worry about it Colin we'll handle your money I mean and we were so stupid and I remember Brett Butler telling me look at these [ __ ] T about spala these guys come in here to here to Rob us and I go that's I was thinking like what do you have to those they're our friends we see them every night at the club why would you think they hit a Rob they're doing business they take that percentage that's what I was thinking yeah meanwhile six months later I'm like oh [ __ ] they came right in they come to the because that's what's so great when people are robbing you is they're not they're coming in like friendly they B they're hanging out with you as friends yeah they're going to the diner they act they're bringing all that human being [ __ ] and then they [ __ ] rob you the whole time sociopaths yes yes sociopaths are amongst us they're sociopaths they are they they do exist they do and they many of them are successful in business well we talked about them last night like joke Thief sociopaths there's a bunch of them too yes that's right sociopaths that's what it is that's how they can do that well they they they disassociate themselves from what they're doing the same thing with those pathological liar like that guy Dean he didn't think he was going to kill her he's like helping her like they're not thinking I mean they know they have to cover it up same with joke thi they think they're they don't think they're joke thieves they're like no no I'm just I'm inspired but or they think everybody does it or they think everybody's influenced what was the story with the spotlight can you find that what did they do how money I don't even think they I don't even think it became a thing I think it was just we knew about it I bet it's not even an article so they were connected is that what the deal is that was that was the word and it seemed like when I look back I'm like oh yeah that makes sense Shady like they were just you know so much Shady entainment business I see them all the time yeah and they were just Shady [ __ ] yeah hanging out with you and I remember the leader I don't remember his name but he looked just like remember that movie Angel Hart when dairo plays lisis Cipher Lucifer he looked like him yeah you ever read you ever hear that Zack Bryan song damn cold vampires no it's a great [ __ ] song it's about that it's a great song it's about the industry it's cold damn vampires is the name but he says he's damn C old vampires is the song trying to build an Empire off the things that they can take yeah yeah yeah it's all it is is they're building an empire off of other people's work all they're doing is just and comedians are the I guess other people are but comedians are really the easiest because we're not business people we don't have a business mind right right so it's like they look around they go and they probably think to themselves like hey if they want like like any Thief thinks if it was that important to them they would wouldn't leave it out there so just take it they didn't ask about the check take it right cuz we get sidetracked and we all have like some kind of well if you're in a corrupt business and everybody else is corrupt too and in Show Business in the early days it was all corrupt it was all mob run and everybody was everybody was in cahoot everybody was robbing yeah oh my god there I mean yeah it's crazy wild business yeah but yeah so um we were on that so the the Greg Geraldo thing was like Greg and I would just hang out in the parking lot all the time I I got I knew him in New York but I really got to know him on the set great guy some guys when they die you just go no just no no no no not that one yeah no I know I know and he was yeah I mean he was I'd see him every night for years and it was great guy great yeah did you know Brody yeah Brody Stevens I knew Brody when he work at the cell he used to be the The Barker at the cellar when you when we had to drag people in the cellar he was the that he'd be great at that he was great at it yeah yeah he was a good dude too he was another one when he went I was like No just no I know just what did he die of suicide oh no yeah exactly oh my God that's one where you just go maybe if you saw him the night before and gave him a hug and told him a funny was you love him maybe he would have helped a little you know you always think things after the fact yeah you know he had gone through some episodes where he would go off his medication he' get a little crazy and then he get back on and then and then every now and then he'd just catch that Groove and he'd be on stage and he would be on fire I remember one time I was at the Improv and it was a Late Late Show it was like a 10 p.m. show and I think my spot was like 11:30 so I do my spot and the F the show's over there [ __ ] 80 people in the crowd it's one of them deals and then Brody is going to close the show and they introduce Brody Brody takes his shirt off and he's swinging it around overhead with music like they they're playing music he's swinging around and walking through the crowd he's like energy positive energy swinging his shirt around and he goes on stage and he starts playing drums on the stool and everybody's going crazy and then he goes into his material 818 till I die and everybody's dying I mean he just took over the room and I remember saying like he does so many of these late night sets that he just comes on with his big energy and he just recharges the whole room everybody loved Brody that's the kind of yeah that's like well let that t Chris falling thing where they would just come in and change the energy right change the energy of the room the whole energy was just like whoa and it's like you can't pull it off unless you them like if you say I'm going to be that guy and you try it after like 30 seconds you just just fade yes they just it brought more out in that they just organically that way you know exactly yeah like you said about da uh dickas Dave yeah same thing it comes in people start smiling yeah totally could have been a comic yeah yeah it's it's interesting how few people go down the path you know it's such a such a weird if you're going to really if you want to be successful in life it's not a good it's not a good road no it's it's so there's so many weird obstacles to it that it's crazy and you really have to get hardened it it's like every other business I'm sure you're successful you a little bit of your innocence about humor has to die too because you have to really it's a business for you too and as much as we love it and I love watching Comedians and being a comedian and I love watching comedians doing their bits and working it out it's still you you have to really be tough you have to be tough to be a comedian something in you has to be able to tolerate a lot of [ __ ] yes that's for sure yeah you got to be able to tolerate bombing tolerate bad nights boming everything if you can tolerate bombing that's people's biggest fear yeah you can tolerate a lot in life if you canate that's your people's biggest fear and we've literally had to stare in the face of a bomb more times than anybody can imag I mean it's literally been over a hundred times in my my life where I've had people hating my guts over a hundred times whole group of people everyone's worst fear yeah what year did you start 84 wow so you were in the boom boom I came in 88 which is like a little after the boom yes the boom was kind of like dying off where I started that's right but that boom in ' 84 must have been bananas well for me I was new so we didn't even think of it we just thought oh this is how life is you know right and suddenly like two years in you're making money not a lot of money it wasn't like Boston I always say we J about last time how my clar paid real money and our guys were getting robbing us and um but yeah but it was such an exciting I mean just imagine I I tell people yeah I'm a commun they go what you're a comedian what like it would just blow people's minds that you were in comedy and then you know a few years later people like oh my cousins are comedian so so yeah but at the time it was blowing people's minds did they have open mic when you started oh yeah that's the only way we get on yeah how many uh where'd you go where was the first place the Paper Moon there's a place called The Paper Moon Eddie bril was running this place called yeah so Paper Moon we started working out there I started working out there you know and uh weasel my way into it and started working out and I would bring crowds where was the paper I was a good I was a good bringer yeah I bring all my friends because I grew up in New York right so my friends would show up you know where was the paper Mo on West it's where the Bing Comedy Club became oh wow wow down oh downstairs downstairs oh it was really cool Boston comic Club was a great spot we were so innocent yeah we just thought you know we had a a sound guy and we're like Hey we're going to do film we try to do films and uh we're just so in everybody's so innocent you start you know yeah I'd never want to do it again but I'm glad I did it yeah like starting something like that from scratch imagine at your age trying a new thing like that yeah people do do that it's crazy like how do you have the energy I guess it's their dream yeah you can't you can't you what you said is exactly right the energy to sustain yeah all those drives to bomb for bad money and then like you said you had a day job and also I had a day job too you had to make it because you didn't have any options yeah there's only the only way you going to make it is if you had options my friends that all kept a fulltime job and didn't give up on that job never made it as a comic I know I don't know one who kept full-time job and then got to a certain point in time where they could retire from the job and then maintain the same level of Comedy as their peers yeah no one did but a lot of people didn't make it and they were funny yeah but they just they it's it's so many there's so many layers I guess every job is like this but we just know it from Comedy but well it's just interesting talking to someone like you that I've known for so many years I mean I think I first met you 30 years ago so it's like we've known each other for so long you to think about how Wild this ride we're on is yeah yeah you know I mean it's crazy it's crazy it really is and what's crazy with you're doing that I think is really interesting is like you're still doing standup but you've also decided to do these oneman shows right and they're [ __ ] amazing thanks and are you are do you plan these like how do you how when you decide to make one like the most recent one like how do you do do you set do you have a theme in mind when you sit down do well what happened with this thing I just did was I had a theme in mind and it just wasn't going the way I wanted so then I said I saw these psychiatrists and I go oh that's my theme I want to do it in front of psychiatrists so then the theme I the show was built around psychology and how we've cracked up as a society based on social media and everything else two psychiatrists so I'm performing to them but they set the theme they became they made the theme Exist by me thinking about performing for them so when you first set out to write this set right you decided you were going to do it in front of psychiatrists no I tried to do something else and it wasn't working and then I was going the theme was going to be I don't know what the theme was going to be like small talk at one point then social media and then I happen to accidentally do a show with four psychiatrists who were in the audience together so I go ah I kept referencing back to them ah yeah and then suddenly I was like that's what I want to do a show in Fr of psychiatrists so how far into the creation of the set were you you I mean probably 50% wow but it all connects to Psychiatry because it's all psychological that's amazing yeah that's amazing and the ones you've done before yeah those with theme yeah and do you like how do you do it do you sit down and just write it all out on a computer do you no I go out like the Constitution show is a perfect example I went every night to the creek and cave in Long Island City and Rebecca directed it so every night I go because I was like I want to do a show about the Constitution because I was everybody loves the constitution on every side of every issue everybody's like Constitution is a great document so I just want to do a whole show on the Constitution like yeah why is it great and so I just would work it out of Creek and Cave all the time just in front of four people seven people Rebecca will tell you 10 people there was never I never did it in front of more than 12 people probably wow and if eventually became the show you know so you just didn't announce that you were doing it you just kind of show up and do it I announced it people just didn't show up for it but really no way I've never been a giant drawer I'm really a Comics comic if the whole world was comedians I'd be the biggest I'd be S at stadi that's what I'm saying dude you're one of the best Comics alive you really are but I'm only for comedians I'm trying to talk to you in staying tonight I didn't really know that I needed to coax you last night I just didn't want to bother you no I was just being like I was I would have coed you now I know I'm going to COA you from now on I was being the guy that's now you're in trouble I don't care if you're tired if you just ate you're going on stage now now I know the game I didn't know the game I thought you just wanted to hang out some I do that I didn't want to bump people when I come to clubs a lot of times I just want to hang out I just didn't want to bump people I don't know you do there was no bumping I know but I thought Ron White was coming I thought he was coming in I didn't want to be like the guy to jump tonight come tonight maybe if I can change my flight change that [ __ ] let's see if I can change we'll change it we'll got a guy may be tough what where you going again Seattle everybody's going to Seattle yeah that's true you get free needles it's a good spot and if you get at the right time they might take over the whole CD block you get to be a part of that they did again in Portland did they do it recently another one Portland just did another one they took over some thing it's all over the news today a didn't get the love that uh that one place did what they call it again Jamie The Zone The Chop Chop no yeah something like that something Zone chaff chaff Chad Chad no Chaz Chaz yeah Chazz yeah like Chaz Bono yeah that's what it was it was like the Chaz yeah yeah Hill occupied protest that's probably where the club is automous z aut autonomous Zone autonomous Z remember the [ __ ] mayor got on TV and said maybe it's a Summer of Love Like okay baby what and then they boot him was he the one they boot girl was a lady and then the guy from Portland was trying to join in and they boot him off they lit his house on fire they [ __ ] they said you have to resign everybody comedy yeah cuz he tried to go along with them and then he's like you know what this is [ __ ] we need cops like yeah oh now you know yeah you didn't know before you needed cops and you're the [ __ ] mayor holy [ __ ] holy [ __ ] not good kids well we'll see if I can change my flight I'll come back change your [ __ ] flight godamn it Colin Quinn what's up Boston I got to practice well there it is 2024 c yeah this is amazing yeah it was amazing I love the set too it's [ __ ] perfect yeah that's just that's the you know those gigs they have the bands yes oh man you know what is this on is this on Netflix YouTube YouTube beautiful and it's out right now yeah it says uh what is it called Colin Quinn our time is up our time is up you therapist always go our time is up bam beautiful that's hilar a good name or should I have called it I was going to call it 50 minute hour they say that about therapy too that's not bad this guy's a therapist do you believe it yeah is that guy a therapist these guys are old therapists really yeah I don't know I have to blow out my sneakers what ises why they blur out your sneakers CU a brand for real I don't know who blurred it out you saw that too right yeah who blurred it out that's ridiculous it looks like something's blurred out as noted sneakers it's something at that part of the stage oh maybe it's the lighting or something that's weird makes it more weird to blur it out that's weird ah maybe it'll be good Colin Quinn you're the [ __ ] man oh it's actually not that's yeah it is the it it's the way the light is shining on like the the speaker it's blur oh it looks like it's blur it's just the box it's just the monitor all right thanks well I'll probably see you tonight hopefully yeah please come if you guys can do it I'll do it we'll we'll make it happen we'll make it happen maybe um tell everybody where they can find uh everything Colin quinn.com you find me on YouTube that's it Colin quinn.com or YouTube and what is your Instagram um I am Colin Quinn okay beautiful thank you brother appreciate you thank you thank you fun great fun always bye thanks [Music]
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