How to Remove Paint Scratches: Old vs New Method of Polishing ATA 206

hey guys for episode 206 we're talking about paint polishing procedure and specifically the one pad one polish technique now I will say that I've letting the video go long this is a longer episode with Kevin because the things he's saying are not only eye-opening but they really help the paint or keep your paint safe meaning you don't jeopardize the integrity of the clear coat with this technique so with that being said we also use the one pad one polish in an upcoming episode with Matt Farah on his Countach so it's not just like classroom oh let's write stuff on the board it's real-world and when that video comes out I'll post a link up here so let me just summarize a little bit of what's going on because I think it's so important after all these episodes to kind of sort of bring it home so to speak so when you think of paint polishing it it's kind of I'm using this word a little bit weird it's like black magic it so there's always this weird challenge of figuring out how to make the paint perfect we're saying in this sort of series here okay there's ways to make the paint perfect but not necessarily bang and destroy it and hit it with a bazooka kind of thing we're focusing more on this preservation meaning what's the visual impact I want the car to look great but at the same time we want to do the least amount of damage to it possible so that's sort of thought process number one number two is what is the what are the techniques are the approach when you literally you're just walking up to the car for the first time okay what am I gonna do this car in that process is sort of fascinating of figuring out whether it's going to work or not and always this liquid working oh no throw that is that pad all that pad didn't do exactly what I wanted immediately throw that away is this machine working in that process of figuring it out you are grinding down the paint to figure out to make the paint perfect it's sort of like it's a it doesn't make any sense so because of all that we were sitting and I was talking to Kevin saying what how do we how do we get around this what's the best approach because it's sort of like holding water in your hand it's very hard to hold it there's no like do it this stuff and do it that step with all that in mind we created or we came up with this process of the one pad one polish and in essence it's what I'm also saying one pass it's not really but it just helps for you know to remember by doing this one pad one polish and one Pass you really have five variables to deal with instead of hundreds of variables so pick your favorite path whatever it is pick your favorite Polish fine when you're doing you and later in the episode you see Kevin he puts the d-pad down and on a particular speed and we'll talk about that a minute and then he goes one pass when he's done with that pass I wipe it off and he goes back and he looks at it says what it what's happening in the paint what it's it's telling me a story what what's going on here and we do four different panels meaning some have deep scratches meaning lots of stuffs coming off or some have you know soft paint or hard painter or swirls or rotary mark there's all so we tried to show you a plethora of different examples that you may see in the real world but what's the point we're trying to add very the very best we can to minimize the amount of variables so that you can get a result that you want but within this preservation mindset so that's what's really going on in this episode and the five variables are the Machine rpm the pressure and tilt quantity of liquid residue control and wetting agent now the first one and to hear you sort of do by default because you have your comfortable way of usually you working between two and three and this much pressure okay but you can you can change those based on if the the backing pad is plate is rotating so you may have to boost it up or lower it down that kind of thing and of course the pressure until it the quantity of liquid hmm you know what after that one pass we didn't do a whole lot so I think we need to do a modown method in this example a modown technique and just kind of just grind everything away before we can get in and kind of take that top layer surface off great increase the quantity of liquid again residue control everything's coming in and compass in your pad then we have to you'll see in the video that Cameron turns around and blows the pad out after each pass I'm not we're not suggesting doing one pass each time blowing out one I mean sometimes you may have to one tricky paint the concept is do one pass sit back look at and say did this do something to the paint or not and if it didn't do what you wanted meaning you probably have to do more passes most likely no one is ever really it but if you do get it and it's perfect after one pass back away that's the preservation if it's not go in and say what can I change of these five variables that will get me where I want to go and you can slowly go through it without digit event a chipping away at the paint and throwing away the bottles in the in the pads or whatever I hope that concept comes through because after all these episodes that is a huge massive loneliness a concept or technique it's just so much bigger than that but basically even I on camera of having like aha moments when I was sitting with Kevin so I'm gonna let him talk because it's a privilege to hear all this and if it lasts 20 minutes it is what it is but as always guys thank you so much for watching and I hope you enjoy this episode it's really maybe take some notes or concentrate and go back and watch or whatever or test it and you'll be like oh my gosh I'm not gonna be I'm not gonna have this and they fear when I walk up to a car like man what am I gonna do to make this thing look perfect you sort of have a little bit of a roadmap for you to go through without going completely nuts and you know you know pulling your hair out kind of thing just stick to these five variables in this sort of technique and I think you'll have a much better approach and keep the paint safe so thanks for watching and I'll see you guys soon [Music] episode 206 is finally here how to remove scratches the old way of polishing versus the new way of polishing so talk a little bit about the differences between the two meaning the way you've done it in the past and sort of this new what not more modern but more efficient or effective way of doing we're very strategic in what we do so we're simplifying our options we're using one pad one liquid one machine right and we're we're really diagnosing as we work we're doing tests one way passes everything's one one one right and so in the past what were you doing we would get some of the bucket loaded compound and zap some on there and start to buff and work it and you could see through it and it would be dusty and there'd be wool everywhere but you would work and work and maybe we just shoot around and find your defects really not not saying that it wasn't the right way but we've become more advanced now so we have to be for cutting rapidly right we do too much of that stuff the paints are thinner we can get into a lot of trouble if we're pointing and shooting and just kind of guessing and not being very specific right so with the technology advances with the product advances with the pad and the tool advances we've sort of narrowed it down so our thing that we're gonna keep fixed right is the procedure one pad one polish right corrects not going to change the only variables that we will manipulate based on you know these panels that we have here which was from the episode 202 where we have the da Hays rotary squirrels pigtails and scratches basically all the things that you're going to encounter so to speak on you're sure we're really going for varying depths of scratch or quantity right and we can replicate that through these systems right here right so if we keep the one pad one polished mentality that we have five variables that we can change and we do them pretty quick even though they're by them so we have machine rpm or arm speed meaning you're gonna do your test panel and as you can see the the if the pad isn't rotating if it's chattering chatting or if you need to change your speed sure a little bit here a little bit faster a little bit slow or whatever the pad or the paint is telling you and that's rotary or da right so either one they're gonna chatter hop bounce or not go smoothly so you bump up until you get the same idea with the arm speed yeah so if you if you see some clumping and you say well I've got plenty of polish and I know it's clean but it's clumping I'm smooth you can increase your arms free to help spread that out right number two will be tilt or pressure of the Machine you can lean down give it a little more yeah mainly if you're on curved panels and such and you want to plant that pad or get it to conform better it's rather than just pressing down in just brute force sometimes you can just add a little bit of tilt and that causes the pad to remove part of the pad and the rest of it fits much better in this case I don't anticipate having to do that too much around flat panels we're we can do such a small amount of motion with this large stroke machine it really digs every time it you know it orbits right so the quantity of liquid we can you know shock and all do you know a massive quantity that does a couple of things it increases the quantity of abrasive that we're using and the fluidity so as we're removing the paint and the paint residue and it encompasses the pad and the liquid it keeps it more suspended and and and doesn't stop the bead of cut yeah exactly and then if you want to refine you lessen or you sure move a little bit of that we're going to take that same exact pad and we're gonna blow it out early and that's gonna fluff up the strings take away the clumps and the residue and and basically make that as refined as we can get it to do our final pass again all with one pad in one polish this is the kind of exciting part the thing that I really wanted to the culmination of all the other episodes yeah was that was for me was this so again the one pad one polish okay we did machine speed tilt quanti of liquid residue control we've talked about that at length but basically as the paint is coming off as the sawdust as we said a bunch of times is coming off and embedding in the pad you're gonna have to regulate that variable meaning if it's let's say hoarder paint and it's not coming off as much maybe you don't have to blow it out as much if you have really soft paint or it's coming off a lot you may have to blow it out even more and if you don't have the ability to thoroughly clean it out that way then have your pads ready right instead of switch one pad have another pattern another pen it doesn't it's not a problem have a few pads ready to go absolutely and the last one is the supplemental wetting agent yeah supplemental wetting agent is simply a product we have spray onto the surface and it creates a drag so if you have a lot of buffing liquid in the pad but it's all connected the pad and absorbed into the pad spray go right over it it pulls it back out right so again these five things and I think three or four of them get done in two seconds here and the rest of it is kind of sort of manipulating yeah - or just almost just you just do it automatically right feel it this by feel and then you look at it okay it looks good go so I think in other words you know as we were doing this whole thing in over the years we sort of whittled it down to kind of one of the one of the episodes is too many or one of the subsections of one of the episodes was too many products too many things everybody's looking around if this doesn't work throw that one out it I mean even I'm like I lose my breath and I say this is like way too much it's way to be very good at you know whittling it down yeah well yeah we talked about these five things but they all fit into this category get into let's get out a little bit okay um here we go and get my light this thing needs a little bit more light so I'm using a pen here this one is the scratch scratches varying depth look at that bright white thick one that's very deep we would probably anticipate we're not going to get that one out but we'll try to minimize the visual impact and that's what we're really trying to do is we're not necessarily trying to eliminate all of the scratches but if we can't see them that's what we want right and then notice the jagged edges so like when we do that scratch what can I do a scratch on the yeah right there yeah it's bouncy it's chattering hop in it literally just took pieces out right so smooth when I do that when I do the example of the scratch like this it's hard because I have to we're actually right here and we're taking it and say no it looks like a V now right but because I only have two hands but it's actually jagged its jack in between that like an icepick big tear yo and that's what I was trying to prove with with this if you like really closely so our goal on that scratch is not to eliminate it because we might go through the clear coat is to get rid of that jagged look so that light reflects back more accurately if we can't see it to for all intents and purposes not therefore what we're going for with visual impact of it or minimizing the visual impact and and saving the paint exactly doing the right thing by the car right all right so the pigtails these are kind of fun let's find some pigtail is a common thing you'll see especially if you had repainted on a panel or something like that it's common that you use a sanding disc to sand the the imperfections are smooth out the paint and sometimes you'll see a consistent pattern of that mimics the machine motion in this case it's a dual action or random orbital so lots of little tiny circular scratches ran there for the most part fairly close to the same depth there is a couple of them that are exceptionally deep that would have been where a piece of the paint residue stuck to the disc and then it got drug around for a moment and broken apart and pulverize so that one because there's so much scratching even though they're not that deep I anticipate this panel taking quite a bit of time to to get that out of there got it now we have rotary squirrels or Holograms over here right good one which is caused by either a wool pad or a foam pad and it just again mimics the motion of the machine with a rotary if you're sitting flat if we said this was a rotary you're sitting flat you can anticipate that the circle the circle is going to be nice and big but if you tilt which we do a lot with a rotary you're now going to have longer string marks or scratches so and you say in terms of depth where are we here where we're still not as bad as is the the random scratches but I think that one's gonna take a little time too because there's a large quantity look at that yeah there that's kind of neat to see how they actually are in in a circular or a rotating pattern but when you just look at it in one point it looks like they're just straight right alright then we have over here da haze that is caused by and it's very common you know you get your random orbital polisher you you do your your cut you do your finish and sometimes you say well it all that heavy defects are gone but it just looks kind of milky that's because those scratches are in abundance and they're very shallow so it it kind of masks in this case the metallic particulate and doesn't give you the depth of gloss or color and I don't think that one's gonna take too long to get out okay all right so now that we've got our little nerd session going out here let's talk about the scratches how are you gonna prepare you have tell me about a machine you have a twenty one large stroke machine I do you have a microfiber pad on there that's right and I'm one I wish that was engineered to remove paint slowly so microfiber we're going to prime it because the strings really have a bility to hold the polish in place so we're just gonna spread it ahead of time and that's that so we've got that primed or seasoned right and now we're gonna add a couple of drops like we we have in past episodes and then if I need more I'll add more if I feel that I've still got good working time with that but it's stuck to the pad I'll use my supplemental wetting a tips and just keep working it I show me the one pass again you're thinking right now as you're putting down hey is the pad rotating him do I have the right speed on the machine right and do I have the right arm speed you're doing that as a detailer within momentarily yeah two seconds so you're you're knocking two or three of the variables out sure in under a second so I see you're getting rotation for sure plenty of occasions you actually not fit down in they need that higher speed so you can go up or you can go down that space you went down you did one pass let's get a nice clean you can see the pattern is pretty consistent but you know I stayed in place and as I moved it caused this kind of thing that happens so you can you can judge that by looking at the pattern right interesting I see the pattern really skinny up I know that hey it maybe I better back away and get a different you know holder the machine alright so what is this one pass telling you well what it's telling us is gonna tell us how quickly it has removed the defects and then I could I can then look at this engage well that got quite a bit out I'll do another pass and I'll do maybe one more and if it looks satisfactory I'm done then I know in general I can do you know one back and forth pass or two and get the 99% of what I want done and at that point if I want to go around each panel of the car and strategically look for deeper defects and work those I can do that but we're leaving the maximum amount of paint using a minimum amount of time right so we're under the premise of like hey we're trying to save as much paint on the car is humanly possible we're trying to preserve it and we're trying to make it look better but I think ultimately a lot of people that's kind of shocking to say on camera we're not always trying to go out and just hammer all the scratches and do it you kind of like 9lives you only get a few lives of the paint and if you get scratches all the time let's say and then you take them out all the time eventually it's gone we truly are we do not our goal is not to remove the defect it's to minimize the visual impact of the defect right the mindset yeah yeah that's that's massive so this this this episode was my favorite one to write with you because we really did one pad one polish and the mindset I think a lot of people at home after the fifth or sixth episode they're going okay I see what the strategy is that they're trying to go for so what you want to do another what was the plan we're gonna do all we're gonna just see how much time each one takes - all right so the pigtail is why you're getting prepped here I'm gonna do a brief blowout yep that paint residue so that I'm not affecting the rate of crack so again he's blowing out the pad residue control that's the variable that we were talking about but again these two are here I took my still here thank you these to get done really fast then we have the quantity of liquid depending on how bad it is and of course residue control which is blowing out the pad we have a clean pad now we're going on pigtails pigtails as you mentioned before a little bit deeper potentially harder to get out and keep in mind that if you have a heavily oxidized we're not going after oxidation but if you're if your paint is heavily oxidized right it's gonna affect the we couldn't replicate that here because I sure know we these are painted panels we're doing the best we can we put a strip down the middle because were gonna show you before and afters of course you may have to bump the speed up a little bit in that case we can go very low speed and get the rotation we need alright so with one-pass yeah there's definitely more work that needs to get done sure I am I anticipated that but the one pass does look better than then the sides over here same pad prime again still plenty of moisture on that pad let me see what that did what we did I don't think we added a couple drops last time but there's enough in here I don't need to 1 microfiber holds and grabs sure hang on to it next rotary swirls ok again the pad is rotating so I would say there's a significant difference in terms of like how bad it was before the after there's a you know we probably got 50% of it out on this one we're on the pigtails because it's a deeper scratch you got like 20 we've got a lot of scratches or valleys and we're gonna be knocking off the tops of those rapidly so you can mount all that paints installing into our liquid and onto our pad when this one this one there's nearly as many scratches so you won't have that same quantity loading the pad and liquid haze Wow now with da haze you did the same exact thing to me I don't know if you can catch that on camera but it's almost I would say it's 80% gone so this is gonna be very easy to get off so the reason why we did test panels on or all four of these because these basically I don't know 80 90 % encompass what you'll normally gonna see on the varying depth of scratches are crazy yeah I'm trying to make the people at home say oh oh yeah to be fair we do have a Polish so it is doing a little bit of hiding of the defect you know we expect that and we into will check all that right but the moral of the story is you have different test spots and they all told the detail or something different mm-hmm and then with those things that they've told one two three four different you changed these variables sure and then you can attack it in a certain way right and just to add this in there if you happen to have an entire hood or panel with pigtails then you're gonna do the modown technique you're gonna put a abundance of liquid you're going to increase the quantity of a liquid you the smart move is to say hey I'm gonna take a section and just mow that down for 30 or 60 seconds I know that I need to do some more passes wipe that off blow your pad out and just get all of that damp that damage in that general area out of there right and then start doing your work progressively like we've talked about right so I'm gonna pick up my pet in my machine I'm gonna use that five inch you're gonna use the six inch okay we're gonna each attack both of these mm-hmm and once we finish we'll come back on ok we'll chat on camera okay so we completed our four panels that basically represent everything you would find on a normal car on the street right depths the quantity all over the map on these so and we did it all again one pad one lately that's right all right so let's take a look at the before of the scratches patches random scratches different depths different quantities all the scratches and then afterwards you're not gonna see much because we've managed to get rid of the majority of the defects right that's a little dust right there those little dots are dust all right so if we go to pigtails you're gonna have a lot more scratches but not that deep kind of consistent right then we go over here and again that's dust in little rock chips or whatever but you're not gonna see anything cuz that's the point and then we have rotary swirls yeah if you move that light around we can see how they actually do change direction there you go then afterwards vastly improved again you're not gonna see anything that's the idea and we have da haze very common very fine scratch it just kind of makes it look milky yeah not not a lot of clarity on the metallic watch the metallic how it's gonna go here you see that there you go so the metallic comes out I see looking much much better than well I see a little random probably a towel mark yeah I like that so again the bottom line is we were doing all these things and keeping something constant meaning the pattern the polish everything we change is on this sheet from speed quantities and the mission was to preserve the paint and not necessarily like we've said in other episodes drop your bags and just go out of impound it's again changing the mindset so quick recap with these things staying constant we have the option to change the variables we were doing over here our arms being changed our machine we've turned up the the RPMs just to make sure that it was slipping that's right it wasn't slipping we're like oh maybe we can kick it up or in some cases we kicked it down at the same time that's right we have the tilt and the pressure as we were going on the edge put a little bit more pressure there make sure that we're squeezed everything on the edge quantity of liquid absolutely did in this particular case on the picture lots of liquid yeah and then progressively back it down by blowing it out or if you don't have a compressor just change the pad absolutely it goes without saying residue control tenuously right so when you walk up to a car part of me is thinking aside from the topography of the car which is a you know something I really want to focus on is how much residue is coming off the car at the same time how much pad how much is your pad absorbing that or retaining painting it controlling it right loading or unloading right and that percentage means you got to spray it out more or clean it out more you know you have you don't need to that's so keep that in mind and of course the last one you know your tuner your supplemental weighting agent you can increase the cut decrease the cut you can kind of play around that's a fibers down you know spread product right so I think this is a really good example to show a 50/50 shot get an idea of you know how to remove scratches but more importantly I think the concept overall for this episode was the old way of polishing which isn't necessarily wrong it's just a different way of polishing long cycling that kind of thing versus the new way of polishing where you're minimizing your variables keeping things constant and then the variables that you are changing are the things that you sort of do anyways yeah and you're not chasing your tail and trying to figure out what's the best thing the entire time removing paint that you don't need to write remember preserve the paint that's the goal here so for our next episode we are doing everything from 201 all the way through this episode 206 combining them into one chapter one series it's gonna be a long one a lot of you have asked me hey Larry can you shoot an episode with Kevin then just detail the paint on the car and that's essentially what we're gonna be doing having conversations figuring out hey why is this panel we have to you know if there's a sloper sure how to get how to get things to fit in there right like real light like an this is flat we're doing a demonstration as if you guys were sitting right there in a classroom kind of thing now we're saying okay come over here let's let's do it on an actual car that measure different shapes changes blad yeah complicated to get the pad things like that yeah so I'm super excited as always guys have any questions shoot me an email Larry and Mo NYC comm if you want to watch the entire series visit mo NYC comm click on the training and there should be beginner and advanced all that stuff is gonna be there it's very exciting ready for the next episode I'm ready alright let's see yeah I'll see you guys on next month thanks [Music] hey guys for your free downloadable PDF visit mo NYC com click on training and PDF for your step-by-step guides each chapter [Music] [Music]

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Length: 26min 38sec (1598 seconds)

Published: Wed Apr 10 2019