Healing School with Panel - August 17, 2017

not a good report for you today we've got good news for you today we serve the God who said his name is above every single name so if you know somebody who's going through a healing journey go get them have them join you wherever you are and have them join you today because we've got a good report for you you're not going to want to miss this and those of you here in the auditorium if you would stand and give somebody a hug that you didn't come with greet somebody maybe you didn't meet yet we've got people from Taylor County people from calling out of Springs who are here and introduce yourself to a new friend and then we're gonna jump into some worship as we always do and get our eyes on the Great Physician hallelujah [Music] the power of God [Music] let's do it ha [Music] who come who run and him anything [Music] what there is power in [Applause] [Music] [Music] don't I can't stand [Applause] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] woman one day [Music] [Applause] one day one day we will Jesus [Music] [Applause] in the name of Jesus [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] so grateful [Music] in the darkest of night my weakness tonight cuz heroes for in the midst of the trial storm in my confidence back no I wore back down I will stand [Applause] [Music] [Music] the phase of the fight all the me to rise up in favorito [Music] in the midst of the battle the trial in [Music] but big to refile [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] glaber's is bad [Music] for the gray [Music] Oh [Music] Oh [Music] [Music] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] thank you lord [Music] [Applause] [Music] I [Music] my picture me love [Music] brings your lovin sense me [Music] my [Music] and be [Music] through Jesus Christ [Music] [Music] [Music] my Oh [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Music] [Music] ah [Applause] [Music] [Music] [Applause] [Music] yes [Music] [Music] thank you [Music] you receive freely freely very see you did make it hard we didn't have to jump through hoops we didn't have to try to get through veils [Music] [Music] there is gone [Music] see there is no live think it possible believe and receive [Music] very [Music] [Music] [Applause] [Music] radar you know always the same name above all names radar you you gave you [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] now I will say Lord have your [Music] your word is true great are you now I can see [Music] great [Music] when God is [Music] [Music] to there's what God [Music] [Music] possible impossible [Music] now I will say Lord have your way [Music] [Music] now what have your you [Music] you [Music] would you just join someone's hand right now let's just begin to pray together and just begin to release the power of God in this place today and all over the world we're not gonna live it the Holy One of Israel and Psalm 78 talks about we're gonna lap the limitless one on the inside of us turn impossible into possible Oh God we believe Lord we received yeah there is no little minute you got your kingdoms come your will is done [Music] oh yeah this is good [Music] if God's for you who could be against you thank you Lord for joining us together we we stand together gal we band together we're gonna take our sand we're not gonna back down having done all to stand on your word God will sing we're standing you we're standing you [Music] your faithful or your word is true we standing you [Music] whatever we're going through we're going through standard you whatever we're going through going through all because of you thanks be unto God who always causes us to triumph no matter what it looks like no matter what it feels like you always cause us to triumph you always cause us to triumph faithful and true whatever or God through will go through take our stand [Music] so good just to worship together you don't worship his life [Music] I was just thinking about how culture today is so into microwave right you know we just got to have it have it now you know but worship is like marinade right you get that you know chicken and the marinade or that steak in the marinade and the flavor just starts to go all into you know every little nook and cranny and then you you know you cut that steak you cut that chicken you're like taste and see that the Lord is good that's when the David the David Prayer really comes to pass bless the Lord O my soul and all that is within me come on tell somebody next year as you give him a hug I'm gonna bless the Lord with all that is within me taste and see that the Lord is good [Music] taste see you may be seated [Music] thank you worship team we're going to break away to a video hallelujah [Music] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Music] this is their caressed Bible College healing school yes it is so awesome to see all your lovely faces out there it's really excellent so we have got a power-packed afternoon for you let me tell you not only have we got one not two not three but we have got four awesome awesome teachers of the word and they are going to be answering some of your questions that you have been filling out on those cards today so it's gonna be an awesome time and as daniel said we alive here everything most Thursdays from 1:00 till 3:00 p.m. mountain time and but we also have five years worth of healing school archives which you can find on our website at Karis Bible College dot o-r-g so please do go and look those up because as Daniel Anstis always says we challenge you to be sick after you've listened to five years worth of teaching amen and so we do have prayer ministry here and after the healing school but if you're watching online then we also have prayer ministers on our phone line right now so you can give us a call if you need some prayer and our phone number is seven one nine six three five one one one one and they would love to pray for you so please do call them now we also have extension schools that across the country and they also open their doors on a Thursday so you can check out which locations they are on our website as well so please do go along to fellowship or to receive prayer from them if you need it so I get to do a really lovely part of the service now and that is to give away some blessings I like to call them blessings anyway and these are some books I've got one here which is the true nature of God obviously it's by an and this is such a fundamental book it is so awesome it dispels any myths or wrong teachings that we the world tries to tell us about God and so if you would like a more intimate relationship with God and you want to know his true nature and his true character and what he thinks about you then please raise your hand and we will get this to you and I've got a study guide here hurry up Carly you've already got it now we want to give this to somebody who really wants to share this with their neighbors their loved ones Wow that's never happened to me before thank you sir that's very kind well it's my privilege now to bring you a testimony and this is an awesome testimony of a little boy called Andrew Mullins and he's from Ireland so I just invite you now to to watch this testimony On February 25th 2011 and bun Khurana Ireland Mike and aster Mullins were told that their baby Andrew had a very aggressive form of cancer high risk neuroblastoma he was already at stage 4 and had a tumor measuring 7 by 8 by 21 centimeters he was only 17 months old he had cancer also every bone in his body except his hands and his feet that felt like a death sentence I honestly at that point I thought I'd lost him that it could possibly be God's will for him to die and I could understand it with people saying to us well God needs another little angel in heaven or you know God is trying to teach you something through this I want to know what the Bible has to say about healing what God has to say we're here I'm all ready to let my son go I'm not ready to let my little boy go so Mike starts to Facebook page we even called it pray for the number 4 Andrew and very quickly we gathered thousands of followers people were liking this page and following post is coming in every day parcels for Andrew parcels for grace you know baby clothes and in the midst of all of that there was a letter with CDs and there were four CDs in it and they'd handwritten on the under CD cover God wants you well was from a guy called Andrew Wommack and as we listen to this message when Andrew sitting in the back seat is we're driving grace driving to Crumlin Hospital in Dublin for the next round of chemotherapy something resonated in a message he was speaking it resonated with our hearts once I started listening to that and became convinced that God wants you well because I was my question the whole time we just got our hands on there's 90 books that we could read I think I listened to every message by Andrew Wommack HS minister to so much we're listening on the website on the mp3 player and it was just feeding us as we were in the hospital with 100 and so we never did this before but we just got Andrew we put our hands in him because the Bible says you will lay hands on the sick and they will recover and said bones we've got good news for you by His stripes you were healed I was so excited we didn't see anything happen but Andrews playing I've got a phone call from console very excited she said I don't know how to tell you this but every one of Andrews bones are completely clean of cancer [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Music] [Applause] [Music] isn't that wonderful to see little Andrew start his first day of school that's also so precious and that's the promise that God has for each and every one of us and so we really want to see you up there on your own healing journey so it's for every single one of us isn't it that she'll ever live and ever walk this planet those promises are for us amen I'm not going to invite my colleague Tracy aja to the stage [Applause] amen was that not amazing that was so good to see that God wants us well right man well I'm here to give you an opportunity to give today I don't know some of you know it but this week we are right smack dab in the middle of healing is here the healing is here conference in here how many of you are excited about that to our online family if you did not know this week is our healing is here conference and we're having healing school today so we have a lot of guests joining us this afternoon at this time I would like to have our Usher's to come forward and bring the offering envelopes and if you would like to give buy cash today you can just fill out those envelopes if you're giving by cheque please fill it out to Karis Bible College or CBC if you are giving online you too can take part in this at the bottom of your screen in the left hand corner there's a blue button that says donate once you click that button it will take you to another page where it says donate to Karis Bible College once you get to that page you will see a lot of areas where you can give in Andrew Wommack ministries or Karis Bible College if you click where it says student mission fun we give you an option you can give $25 $100 $1000 if you give us a million or a couple of million trust me Andrews got a plan for that so we will take that as well if you need to know how to spell million that is mi LL Oh n thank you so trust me we've got a plan and it's really a plan that God has given Andrew for us here at Karras so we want you to partner with us as you saw this testimony today we have a lot of testimonies andrew has given us as second some second-year students we have a lot of students that are in the audience right now and how many second-year students we're gonna have in the fall raise your hand so if you look around can you put the second-year student stand all the second-year students as you look around and see all of these thank you as you look around and see all of these students that have stood Andrew has given us a requirement that before we can graduate we have to go on a missions trip so as you saw Andrew Mullins there in Ireland the students also go to Ireland they go to Uganda they go to Costa Rica they go to Brazil they go to Mexico they go to California you know I mean we saw right here in the United States there are people that need to baby Jesus we got a mission field right here in the USA so we don't have to go out of the country but all over the world our students go and they touch the lives of people that may not know that Jesus loves them so I'm just here to just share with you today that we want you to sow into this good ground here at Kerris a scripture verse that came to mind today was mark the tenth chapter verses 17 through 30 I won't read all of those but you know when we look at finances and giving to the kingdom of God it's always about trust it's not about money it's about trust and in the Bible God you know they talk a lot about money and we get so hung up about money but you know what you need money to do everything we get upset when somebody says you're in a church and skid can you give you think the preacher wants your money but you know what when you go to Walmart when you're going to Macy's when you go to the movies when you go to Starbucks you don't say they want your money now do you and I guarantee you that what we have here to give you is far more better than that so let's just look at you know Jesus in this passage of Scripture Jesus was counseling the rich young ruler in verses 21 and 22 in the New King James Version it says then Jesus looking at him loved him and said to him one thing you lack go your way so whatever you have and give to the poor and you will have treasure in heaven and come take up your cross and follow me but he was sad at this word and went away sorrowful for he had great possessions I heard somebody said he was sad at that saying why because he saw it as you know what he didn't look at he looked at obeying God was that was harder than him just holding on to his riches so I just encourage you today let's just trust God if you don't have enough to meet the need it's just a feed anyway so why not sow a seed this is good ground fertile ground maybe you can't go to Uganda maybe you can't go to Costa Rica but you know what you can plant a seed and you can help us here at Kerris to send the students and that's as if you have been there yourself and I guarantee you as Andrew always says when you get to heaven and you see you know when somebody comes by your mansion and say ah thank you so much for partnering with Karis Bible College healing school you don't know what that message meant to me so I encourage you today to please not please but sow into this good ground ax God what should you give today God just wants a cheerful Giver he's not concerned about the amount he's as concerned about the condition of your heart and sowing he loves a cheerful hilarious Giver so let's get our seed in our hand whatever it is like I said a million is mi ll io n and we're just going to thank God for this offering today let us pray I thank you Heavenly Father for your people that are trusting in you today to give that they are partnering it with us here at Karis Oh God I thank you for this seed that they have in their hand or God you said you give seed to the sower lord I thank you that this is good ground that they are sowing into may their return be a hundredfold Lord God for what they give this afternoon we thank you for it all in Jesus name Amen and as we receive the offering at this time I'll call up the director of healing school Daniel M stets Thank You Tracy I think Tracy needs to have a little more enthusiasm what do you guys think and that awesome we're so excited around here because we know what the gospel does to people and being able to see this journey of grace progress in each of our lives is such a blessing and I wanted to say publicly thank you to Andrew and Jamie for allowing us to have the healing school and today we are so blessed to have Andrew Jerry and Greg and Carly on our panel today to answer your questions so panel would you come up and let's welcome them as they come how they do you all sit in this chair over here and maybe we should put the rose in the middle between the thorns so great to have all of these wonderful wonderful friends of mine here on the panel today and one of the reasons we wanted to do this panel is because every year we have questions that arise every time we minister on healing as we were saying the other day a question that you have on your heart is probably a question that someone else has on their heart as well and you know healing is not mysterious we know from God's Word a lot about healing and yet there are things about healing in the healing process that we don't know and so what we're going to do is we're going to answer these according to the Word of God and we're not gonna let what we don't know stop us from declaring what we do know and what we do know is it's always God's will for you to be healed there's never an exception and in knowing it's always God's will to be healed we've got to look to the Word of God and find out what God's Word says so every one of these people up here have a healing testimony many many of them actually have have walked through things themselves and what a blessing to be able to see the power of God made manifest in our lives on a daily basis and you're gonna be hearing from pastor Greg more tonight and I'm really blessed that he took the time to be on the panel this afternoon especially because he's ministering tonight so again would you welcome all of our panel today and just say thank you even before we get started hallelujah what a blessing one of the questions here as we start off as I've heard we should be careful of who we lay our hands on the demonic manifestation or power can be passed on to others who lay hands on us so much of this teaching encourages us or discourages us to lay hands on people can we have some feedback about do's and don'ts of laying on of hands it's a great question in that yeah anybody else wanna know okay come back tomorrow okay no so laying out of hands you know this is one of the basic doctrines of the church isn't it who wants to address this well I think that's a lie jesus said lay hands on the sick and they'll recover he didn't say lay hands on the sick and a demon that's in them is gonna jump on you you've got authority over demons that's that's B ull it's it's not it's not the Bible when when the Bible talks about lay hands on no men suddenly it's speaking about you know ordaining people and that type of thing but uh we need to get out lay hands on people the light will cast out darkness when Jesus comes in the devil flees and he's not going to jump in you you got the Holy Ghost so I don't believe that let me add to that I agree except if you are in fear then something could jump on you but if you're in faith I agree a hundred percent we had a lady from Nigeria that came to school here I think is either two or three years ago she's she's graduated now but she came up and when she first came here she would be tormented in her sleep and she would be cut and she would wake up bleeding and I mean severe demonic activity and she came up and saying I can't sleep would you please pray for me and I said why you got the same power and authority I got and she says well I know but it's not working and in anyway she came up three times to me and finally she realized I wasn't gonna pray for I just told her she had the power and so she was just in Kenya and we were there this last year and she is so set free I mean she has been totally set free and she explained to me that in Nigeria they actually I don't want to spend all this time but it was her pastor she was the head over a thousand youth in her church and when she left Nigeria to come here her pastor cursed her and this is the way that they do it they're into witchcraft and stuff and so they cursed her and it was Christians that were cursing her and all of this stuff and she just they were afraid of the devil and here she learned that we had Authority and once you understand that you have authority what Greg is saying is 100% true the only way you can have something affect you from the person that you're praying for is if you don't understand your authority and you're in fear so if you're operating as a believer I agree 100% that nothing can affect you but fear will release the power of the devil if you are afraid of the devil amen it's good innit this is kind of an unusual question but we felt it was worthy to be asked and answered here praying for my sick granddaughter last week for fever and stomach pain as I was praying in the spirit I felt her pain come upon me this happened several years ago as I was having horrible hip pain and realized it was the pain my mother was experiencing and I was supposed to pray for her could you explain or elaborate on this is this a gift or a curse I think sometimes when you're being led to pray for somebody you might feel a sensation in the area of your body and that's just indicating you know what God's healing needs or God's healing shoulders or whatever but I don't think that if that's an excruciating pain and that's not God yeah something else is going on so I don't that answers that or not but and I think it depends I think I think feeling a sensation in your body can be an indicator that God is leading you to pray for somebody in that area I mean I've had that before where I've had a feeling somewhere a tingling or something something so just an awareness that there's something going on in my knee or a limb or something and it's a way that God is sure Holy Spirit shown me but you know he wants that there is a there's a person with a problem in that area but it's never been you know it's gone straight away after we prayed and it's been temporary and it's not being painful so if you're experiencing pain in your own body I think that's a different issue going on that you need to deal with yeah especially if it's if it tries to linger the Isaiah 53 so says that he bore our pains so I'm not going to bear what I'm not going to carry what he bore that's funny doesn't it just get to be kind of simple it's just really not complicated is it when when you realize that Jesus made the gospel easy for us to receive and aren't you grateful that he did hey ma'am can I use my own words in prayer or should I only speak the Word of God when praying for someone I believe Jerry's got a word on that I get a witness thank you Jesus Jerry speak some words but I found that you know many times just you know just keep it simple you know align yourself with the word of God's beat the Word of God and don't make it difficult you know speak life to a circumstance speak life to a situation and and many times we will speak your word says father and we'll say what the word says over the person's body and we see the effect you need to pray according to the Word of God because it says in 1st John 5:14 if we ask anything according to his will we know that he hears us and if we know that he hears us then whatsoever we ask we know that we have the petitions that we desired on it so we need to pray according to the Word of God but you don't have to pray King James English you don't have to quote the scripture you just have to pray according to the Word of God but it's got to come from your heart and unless you were born speak in King James you don't have to do that you just put it into your words and speak the truth is what sets people free I think in England they speak the King James when they pray that's more holy I learned in England nobody over there uses the King James I mean nobody does over here if you do but in England they think it's weird that you quote the King James wow this is one that we've heard before but this is this is an interesting question many foods that I've been told by my nutritionist are hurting my body I'm not able to eat now because I'm on a heavily restricted diet so how can I believe God to receive what I need and want to eat when my nutritionist is telling me it's hurting my body that is bul doctor bull uh-huh the only reason that that's true is if you believe it God didn't make a single one of us to have to live on a restricted weird diet you know this is Andy ology I don't have a verse for this but Christians today have gotten so humanistic they are trying to deal with their sicknesses in a physical natural way and one of the accepted ways is through all of the nutrition and all of the supplements and things like this and again I'm not against anything if it's done in moderation but when you take anything to an extreme it says in first Timothy chapter 4 that in the last days many will depart from the faith giving heed to seducing spirits and doctrines of devils commanding to abstain from meats and from this and it goes on to say that everything is sanctified by the Word of God in prayer and if you are saying that you cannot eat certain foods because it is somehow or another damaging the Bible says it's a doctrine of the devil now is this to say that we're supposed to eat french fries and hamburgers every day no I mean there's wisdom but when you get extreme and you have to go on any type of extreme diet I believe that that is something that Satan uses to defuse your faith instead of it being solely in the Lord your faith is in all of these other things and if you just hold on in five years they'll show you that all of the things you're believing right now are totally wrong I remember when they came out against saccharine wasn't it and and they said that it causes all of these things they found out that they were giving like the equivalent of five thousand the equivalent of five thousand sodas or something full of saccharine to a mouse per day that caused these problems and that there was absolutely nothing wrong but a lot of people you know suffered because of that and then they said you couldn't have fat that fat was bad for you and they found out your brain doesn't work if you don't have a certain amount of fat and I'm convinced that a lot of nutritionists don't have any fat in their diet so anyway it's Andy ology I believe that instead of you know our health being related to diet and exercise I think that that's 20% are 10% of our health the scripture says a merry heart does good like a medicine honoring your father and mother will prolong your life and I don't believe that's only to my father mother that's just respecting Authority and not being in rebellion rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft that the Word of God is health unto all of your flesh and laughter those that find it and on and on and on and on you could go when when we were going through the battle with our son Michael several years ago in arthritic muscular condition my wife got into this health food kick and I you know I mean I'm I'm good with eating healthy you can see [Laughter] eating period you and Wendell yeah so so we were we stopped cooking with normal food and and my children were gagging at these green noodles that she put in for spaghetti and other things and anyway we had all kinds of health food stuff we call these things we couldn't couldn't do for a while and man I was pleading with her you know I don't see that in the word and finally the Lord spoke to her he said he said when I walked the earth it was all health food there was no processed food and I still had to go about healing all who were oppressed of the devil a little bit more of an American culture than the rest of the world but America is obsessed with nutrition there I mean there is I've never seen any so many vitamins shoppies everywhere if that means vitamins which is everywhere but you know if it depends where you put in your faith is your faith in the diet or is it in Jesus you know and I think we you know we've been given one body one one suit to last us through this life and we need look after it we need to be good stewards just like we are with our finances we need to be good stewards with our body and take care of it and get good sleep and drink water and eat healthy things you know in balance in moderation it's Nate doesn't mean you can't ever have an ice cream or a nice steak right but we just need to get a little bit more balance and moderation in our life and stop going off into either one of these ruts people start to fixate themselves on something that's just a distraction if you're going to a nutritionist is because you've got a problem in another area and you're trying to control it by limiting your diet so let's get back to the source of the problem where ever is this really the issue and believe God for healing a man you know what I find kind of interesting about this is especially in today's culture is back in the old covenant the Lord led the Israelites in the land of light boy it's a good thing you didn't do that today because everybody's locked us in colorized sorry can't go Jesus is the bread of life and what was one of our big issues right now with wheat everything has to be gluten-free now right oh my goodness and I heard a doctor say that there was only like 2% of the American population that had any problem with gluten and yet 98 percent of the population is obsessed with doing something about it we need to get those 2 percent healed and everybody eat gluten there's muttons and gluten what are we having for dinner tonight honey gluten and lactose all right we've seen many unbelievers healed in Street ministries especially that kind of thing where does the unbeliever not matter and when is it a hinderance area of unbelievers and ministering to an unbeliever does that make sense no say that again even after I read it I might say what well gee Jesus the healing power of God is available available for anyone yeah so an unbeliever can receive healing I mean that's what the you know evangelist ministry is in the church we ought to go out and minister healing it unbelievers the healing is a dinner bell yes that will draw people to the Lord so many times I mean God God wants everybody well I mean they need to live longer to get saved to praise God so no I mean he God he's not he's not gonna hold healing back from unbelievers that's why some believers have a problem when you pray for somebody that just came in who was a drunk or whatever and they get healed like that and this and this religious person is jealous of that but God loves everybody and he'll heal unbelievers I don't know if that's the question but there's no problem there is no problem healing unbelievers if they'll they hear the gospel and sometimes just through the gifts of the Spirit like when Jerry was manifesting last night Jesus went around hitting unbelievers didn't he it's actually much easier to heal people that are unbelievers then believers out on the street or you know in the park anywhere you're at you know they'll receive I remember we had someone come to healing school and they were yeah they were not crippled all through their body and then and the prime minister awesome would you like to receive salvation they're like nope but you want healing they prayed for him all the pain went they were set free that week and jumping up and down then right now join Jesus yep the reason it's easier to heal an unbeliever is because Christians get to thinking oh I haven't been holy I haven't read my Bible and I'm not worthy and they don't doubt that God can heal they doubt his willingness to you but an unbeliever you come up to them and tell them God wants you illness at all not me and say oh yeah it's a gift and they just really and they'll just receive it without any looking to themselves having to earn it but Christians have been taught that you have to be worthy of healing so it's actually harder to get a Christian healed than an unbeliever because they'll receive it by grace yes yeah that's excellent there was not much explained about last night with Jerry Garcia I've never seen the scripture pill you can't explain Jerry forget it just love him and receive him but mom's so try to explain him lean oh my goodness I've never seen a scriptural reference to this happening do you have a basis in the Word of God for what happened last night well let me say this so the Jerry won't feel like he's having to defend himself but it depends what you're talking about I mean as far as people falling out under the power of God there are dozens of examples it's not necessarily explained but like Daniel twice fell on his face as if he was dead the there were 60 soldiers that came out to arrest Jesus and they he said whom do you seek and he said they said Jesus of Nazareth and he said I am he in the King James but he's italicized what he actually said was I am it was the great I am and when he said it man sixty men fell backwards all at one time to the ground and Ezekiel did the same thing Moses did the same thing in Exodus chapter 3 and on and on you can go John on the Isle of Patmos fell at his feet as if he was dead and he had to be strengthened and so if that's the portion that you're talking about people falling out it's just a reaction to the power of the Holy Spirit and it's a it's a spiritual force it's the anointing and in the same way that people can feel fear and all of a sudden it just overwhelms them and they pass out because they faint because they're freaking I was watching America's Funniest Home Videos and they showed these people on this slingshot which I was on that thing and I had nearly the same experience and they showed this girl just and then she just passed out I mean she was so afraid she passed out that's the opposite it's a different force but it's the same principle of fear hitting a person and knew and when the anointing of God hits a person it'll just literally overwhelm you you know in the Old Testament he was I am that I am he only used part of his name imagine what would have happened if you use him he was on a first-name basis with both oh we got him laughing everybody's and you know let me give some other things here that you know there's a friend of mine he's now gone on to be with the Lord but he was a pastor at Lighthouse Temple here in Colorado Springs and he was an ultra old lion Pentecostal and yet we had just a great relationship he would he even got up one time and he says men what you're saying goes against everything I believe but I feel the presence of God and he he was used to the presence of God and so he loved me even though we didn't agree doctrinally and he used to be an associate with Jack Cole and I don't know how many of you are familiar with Jack Cole but he had a tremendous meeting matter of fact I meant Jack Co jr. in France and Jack Coe told me many instances of his dad ministering healing like one time a woman had a cancer on her face that was you know just a huge growth and Jack Koch grabbed it like this and started squeezing it and what he was doing was digging his fingernails in underneath it and then he just ripped this cancer off this woman's face and blood spurted all over him and her and then he slapped her like that and instantly she was totally healed and he saw all kinds of miracles but anyway brother Dunbar was an associate with him and brother Dunbar actually quit and drove outta town because Jack Cole would have like ten thousand people in a meeting and what he would do it was brother Dunbar's job to separate the invalids into two different groups and they would put the ones at the front of the tent who could get up and go relieve them so because people that have to come five and six hours before service and so they had soil their sheets and stuff if they couldn't relieve themselves so he it was his job to put the ones that were there were peril I mean they were sick they were on stretchers wheelchairs and crutches but he would test them and they could get up and go relieve themselves and they would put those at the front of the deal but then the ones who were totally paralyzed and could not get around they put them at the back of the tent just for the smell and stuff like this and so what Jack Cole would do is get up and preach a message and he says man the power God's here and he'd jump off the stage and go down and grab somebody out of a wheelchair and pull them out and they'd a start shuffling along and he'd take a crutch away and he would get him off of their stretcher and nothing had happened they could have done that before but the people didn't know it and he would use this to get the people to Wow the presence of God is here and and so because of this brother Dunbar got mad and he says I'm leaving and he drove out of town says I'm not gonna be a part of this thing but as he was driving out of town the Lord says and what does he do after he ministers to the people in the front section and he got to thinking and he would go to the back and he would see two to three hundred people who were totally paralyzed healed in every service and what he was doing was overcoming this carnal part of us what Jerry was talking about the flesh he was overcoming the flesh and in a way he was getting them beyond their doubt and unbelief we are baptized in unbelief our culture is a culture of unbelief and we live there and he was getting there in some carnal way to get their expectancy level up this is what I was preaching on is the attitude of faith and people where they could man God's here and then the power of God would be free and I I'm not gonna take time I could preach on this but I just about didn't but rodney howard-browne did the exact same thing if any of you were ever in his services and stuff like this and people say well that's manipulation well i'm not saying that that's the way we should do it but i am saying that you have to deal with a carnal part of a person and most people are so encased in carnality that God has to reach them through these things and men when you can get a person to laugh a person that has been depressed and died and there it may start in the flesh but it releases something supernatural and anyway we could I could spend all afternoon explaining that but it is very scriptural what happened there was nothing unscriptural it may have been you know like they said we've seen strange things today but it's because you hadn't been around the supernatural power of God you get around God it's normal yeah well you can thank God the spirit of slap didn't come on me but you know I was in I was in Merida Yucatan in Mexico and this man came he'd lost his job at the at the bank and he had a he had a plastic bag with about thirty medications in it and he said I've been depressed for four years and this is all of my medications he said I can't work I can't do anything he said I have no more resources I have nothing and do you know that I just I just prayed for him and told can you laugh can you show me your teeth at least you know I mean you know just because his face was so sad and he you know he cracked his lips and I could see I said you got a smile there as it can can you go oh ho hee and do you know what by the time that we had prayed with him he was laughing his wife was crying his kids were crying because that for years they had not even seen him smile and and he was just he was just another man and so you know you'd be surprised what what would happen to you if you just laugh yeah yeah you know the Bible says in Psalm 126 we're talking about biblical foundation for what happened last night when the Lord brought back the captivity of Zion we were like those who dream then our mouth was filled with laughter and our tongue was singing and Psalm 2:4 says that that God who sits into heaven does laugh and has his enemies in derision so it's like you know it was very scriptural last night now if Jesus were here in the flesh he had a spitting ministry no I'm serious you you think it's just at one time if you read your Bible we're talking about biblical right we're about as biblical as you get he spit on the clay I mean on the dirt made clay right one time two other times one time it said he spit on the guy's eyes he spit on the guy's eyes and then when other times spit on his hand and touched his tongue with his spit how would you like how would you like to explain that if Jerry started spitting on you guys last night no I mean [Laughter] but we've seen strange things but you know people hey you can man Jesus you can spit on me all you want if my eyes are open and man my tongue speaks and I can I guarantee you last night we there there were multitude of of testimonies of people who are healed because the gifts of the Spirit and I got were in operation and what happens is this kind of ministry blasts us out of unbelief slappers and the spit is on the section on the side God delights in using things that are that take you out of your brain and get you to minister and out of your heart and you know what I'm not I'm not that I mean this is as excited as I ever get I actually went to Disney World and they take these pictures as you press at the top of the thing and then they try and sell you this picture and they have these things coming out at you and stuff and you could take a picture of me right now and that's exactly the way I looked at the top over I just never look any different and so I'm not like this I'm not like Jerry I'm normal but I love this man and I've been supporting his ministry for twenty years and God uses him 24 years God uses him and so you know what if you don't understand it just say well just don't say nothing's what you should you can't say something good don't say anything at all you know I don't think Paul and Silas were sad when you know liberal when they were in jail and been beaten and they said they sang praises to the Lord I mean you got to be at least a little happy to start singing praises you know at midnight and and they were hearing them and the power of God fell yeah and I mean set them free set them free and you know in the middle of this joy in the middle of people falling out what seems to be chaos you know what the only reason you think it's chaos is because you're not used to it and religion has you know molded us into the way I have a I didn't I do a teaching on reverence and I didn't get this from you it's reverence what they Dean didn't teach you in Sunday school and because I had teachers in Sunday school is to be reverent and you know and so as kids we grew up you got to be real quiet in church and so you grow up as an adult you got to be quiet in church and so you know church should be a happy place yeah church should be a place where you come and you came in sick you leave healed you came in sad you leave glad you came in poor and you leave blessed hallelujah you came in walkin you leave in a car cuz somebody gave you a car that happens in my church on the day of Pentecost you know I mean they thought the whole bunch of them were drunk yeah and whether you agree with it or not the joy of the Lord is our strength and we've got a stack of testimonies of people that were tangibly healed last night I can't explain that that's good and back to Jerry's point about how you got to be reverent and quiet and all this you know just think of Jesus meetings he had a crowd like this and over here were all of the scribes and the Pharisees saying you're of the devil you're Beelzebub and people were out there for three days you know that somebody had to go to the bathroom somebody had to do something so there was people moving around there were kids around and I mean Jesus meetings we're like a three-ring circus with the hecklers over here and blind people getting sins so anyway I think I think that God uses people like Jerry just to rub religion the wrong way amen you know I was in I was in Zacatecas doing a meeting this was about 15 years ago and the same things were happening and there's this guy and I call for a prayer line and he's in the prayer line so I get to him and he says you don't lay hands on me you're you're controlling everybody here you know your mind control and stuff and I said my brother David was with me and he wanted to take him out you know out back and so I said don't worry about it just I just skipped him and went on and he'd be sitting he'd point at me and he said you know he'd point at me like that next thing I know he's on the floor he's on the floor and he's just on the floor crying and I didn't touch him I didn't even go near him I you know I was okay with him not wanting me to pray for him but you know what I mean God doesn't have to use a man to touch you you walk into the presence of God in your in your shower in your bedroom I'm telling you God is he's great and I can guarantee you there were some people that fell over because that has become a charismatic tradition and it wasn't the power of God that knocked him down I've actually laid hands on a woman one time and she started to go down and she looked behind to see if there was a catcher before she yeah and so there's flesh and things like that but this friend of ours which all of us know Dave to hell he if you didn't fall down he would push you down he would not let you go until you hit the floor I bet you you hit the floor a bunch of times I did I did to know and anyway he would push you over if you didn't go over but I saw a guy come up this guy must have been 300 pounds he was huge and he stood like this he was braced and he had his fists like I dare you to knock me over so Dave just came to him and he knew you know his body language what he was doing is so Dave says all right and he stood about three or four feet away and he goes and this got flies four or five feet and knocks over a whole Road Cheers so just about the time you're ready to say this is not god you're pushing him over he blows and God flies that you know I was in Moldova and sometimes you know the boss is what you review so and I don't know you know I try not to push people over you know and there was this lady she was probably six feet tall and I prayed for her I just laid my hands on her forehead and she she didn't go backwards she came forward and hit me in my chest and she was so she was so heavy she hit me in my chest and knocked me two chairs back and I hit my head and so I got to the hotel and I got this big ol knot on my head woman not--you damage but that was the same meeting where the lady fell out of the wheelchair and got totally healed so after that he started pushing them that way so they were one of the books I want to write soon is is I'm gonna entitle it a merry heart does good like a medicine and just fill it with funny stories that have happened in ministry cuz you can't even make this stuff up I mean it's the best ever in it I mean I was with babe who al and he blew this woman and she had on a dress it had a v-neck thing in it you know she had a lot of cleavage showing and he blew on her and when he did his breath mint came out and hit this oh yeah and it stuck right there and this woman was laying down and Dave looked at this usher and he says would you please get me that breath not that's an [Laughter] [Applause] [Laughter] I'll tell you we could tell you stories until tomorrow I was I helped David well establish his first church I was his worship leader for three and a half years when they moved from a Bible study at the University of Northern Colorado to our first church and I'm telling you we saw so many miracles so many manifestations of the Spirit of God and so many funny things that happen to ministry I remember one time I promise I won't tell hundreds of story because we're here for the panel but one time he was praying for this really really really large lady and he says Oh father touch her from the top of her head all the way down to her big feet [Laughter] and then he realized what he had said he just threw his head back and laughed and went BAM one now she way big feet and all Dave is always one of the speakers at our ministers conference and he we had this couple come you were there at this and this couple came who were in the minister and they were just so sad they had been rejected and hurt and they were just cried and they came up and they were holding hands and and it was just pitiful it was it looked bad and Dave comes over to him and he says thus saith the Lord don't worry my little children if I want god I'd be discouraged too and they didn't like it but I just laughed I thought that was so but it got rid of any discourage but I had it was great it's awesome I was missing this lady in Southern California and a healing line like we've been having here and when she fell out she kind of did what Andrew was saying she kind of looked behind her a little bit you know and when she fell her hair came off and so without missing a beat she just reached right back while she was out in the spirit quote-unquote and put her hair back on you know but we a lot of times God brings it demonstrates these things to get us out of our ruts yeah okay well my group my daughter-in-law was in a she'd heard all my wonderful teaching you know how wonderful it is and Hannah but she was in a Dave dhu-l meeting she got filled with the spirit she was a Church of Christ girl yeah that's filled with the spirit and then Dave did his chopping thing oh yeah dude you know and yeah and which is weirder than Jerry and and but she went down and she couldn't get up for about 45 minutes and she had had a sonogram because she had had cancer several years before and she had a sonogram and they said she had all this scar tissue and after she got up and went back to the doctor the doctor said ma'am I don't know what happened to you but you've had an internal makeover there is no scar tissue on the end and we've had and she's given us three beautiful grandchildren since so you I'll put up with a little stuff that's a little strange for three grand for my daughter-in-law being healed and three grandchildren amen you know y'all y'all need to go to youtube and watch brother Kenneth E Hagins YouTube videos of his Holy Ghost meetings and watch 15,000 people in an auditorium being hit by the power of God it's just just powerful yeah just watch Dave do well split a pulpit - on YouTube oh my goodness so it's so great so great thank you Jesus amen hello there yeah yeah I was in a meeting one time when this minister was you know speaking of the anointing Andrew and and how Jesus would minister with crying babies and and just you know we can only kind of imagine really what it must have been like with a multitude like that and this little boy who was about nine years old had to go to the bathroom and should have gone before the service but he didn't and had to go so he got up and left his seat over here and when he stood up the minister who was very famous said young man you have just broken the anointing and appointed to this little guy nine years old and I'll never forget it because I thought you know if the anointing is that fragile we are all in big trouble amen hallelujah thank God for God amen you know we do always want to do whatever we do by the Word of God we want to make sure it's scriptural but what we have to be careful that we don't explain for instance the love of God you know we know God is love but you know we need to do we need to just let God love us it's one thing to know he's loved but now we just need to let him love us you know when when my wife and I became husband and wife and I kissed her I didn't go to the biology book and go okay now what's happening exactly to our muscles here as your lip meets my lip what's actually happening here we just enjoyed the moment amen I think we just need to enjoy the presence of God and let God love us amen and that's awesome yeah it's a great analogy amen I don't see any examples of anyone losing their healing in the Bible can you explain why some people claim to quote lose their healing were they ever really truly healed I don't believe anybody loses your healing like you lose your keys or something like that you quit believing is what it is and after your heals Satan can come and like for instance I tell a lot of people I pray for people and I see instant manifestations pain lee and it's because the devil knows that when i say something i believe it and he has to obey but the other person he doesn't know if they believe it so he'll bring a pain back and you might feel some of the things you had before it doesn't mean you weren't healed it's the devil knocking on the door saying will you open it up and will you let him back in and so you don't lose your healing you quit believing because you have some symptoms some feelings something that looks contrary to what you believe and if you're more moved by external things and you are by what you believe you don't lose your healing you quit believing that's what happens Bible says Romans 11:29 the gifts and the callings of God are without repentance if you have ever been healed for a nanosecond you have that same manifestation of God's healing in your body and it's not God who turns it off it's you that turns it off if you quit believe it in fact I think it's really important when people have received healing to be aware be expectant of a counter-attack I mean it the devil was a liar the only power that he has over us is deception and the power that we give him you know when we've we've seen this so many times that but we need to we need to grasp our authority and learn what it means to resist you know having done all to stand is what it says in Ephesians and so you can almost expect at some point if you receive healing your body you can expect to have it tested but you know what when you know the truth it does it's the truth it sets you free right we submit to God resist the devil and he'll flee from you we don't we don't have to be afraid we just need to be equipped when we were after Hannah was he like you know she went home and we're there's a couple of times there well we had to exercise this we had to use our authority and rebuke symptoms that came back and I have to tell you my first thought in that moment was oh is that the disease is it too good to be true did it already come back and this is like 24 hours later but then I had to think hang a second no let's get back to what the word says it's get back to resisting let's get back to our authority you know let's be wise about these things and just realize that the devil's gonna come back he's gonna come knocking on your door and seeing if you're gonna play or not he's kinda like The Hungry Bear you know we have bears on our property and it embeds it just lazy there fat lazy they want to roam around they want to look for an easy snack but they're not really gonna try very hard so you know you kind of roamed around he's looking for someone to play and when he realizes that you're not gonna play games with him you know he'll leave you alone but you have to be prepared for the counter-attack now Jesus Jesus said in Matthew 12:43 through 45 that well the unclean spirit goes out of a man that he's gonna come back he's gonna even come stronger he's gonna see if you if you're filled with a word or not and you just got to be prepared well with the word if the enemy comes back because he tells you here and structure here that that there is a demon that calls your body his home and I you know what that makes me mad there's no demon gonna have my my body as their home and and so if whenever I receive the manifestation of what I already have in my spirit in my body I just you know I just I just get prepared with the Word of God when em each enemy tries to come back with a symptom and he's done that with me did when I was healed of cancer he did it with my son Michael we've just we were his ready prepared my book on your healing doors got a chapter on the counter-attack and it'll it'll help you with this but I just man if the enemy comes he's gonna pay I'm gonna make him pay he's a loser he's a creature of pride and when you and I walk in our Authority and run him off he'll think twice about coming back to your house again that's awesome yeah this question is how do we stay out of condemnation we are not responsible for the outcome when we pray for others but it sounds as though we are responsible for the outcome when we're taking authority over our own bodies or when others pray for us can you help me clarify that how do we stay out of condemnation if we're not responsible for the outcome when we pray for others just don't get condemned there is no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus right I'm not sure exactly what they're saying but condemnation is not something that comes on you like a seizure or something that comes from the outside it comes from the inside mm-hmm so if you're condemned it's because you're thinking wrong and what you got to do is go back to the word and change your thinking if you don't take credit when a person gets healed why do you take the blame if they don't get healed that's unreasonable you begin to think like that and then you recognize the grace of God that man God God's never had anybody qualified working for him yet and we don't do anything perfectly you know if you came to these meetings looking for something wrong we got something for you we're gonna make mistakes and yet God still uses us and once you understand the loving God like that and how gracious he is if one of the reasons that we aren't gracious to others and to ourselves is because we've never received that grace you can't give away what you haven't received and I would say that a person who is living under con nation does not have a good revelation of the goodness and the grace of God they're living under a legalistic performance-based mentality very good can healing take place for people that don't completely embrace the Lord for instance my daughter is a heroin addict with mental health issues I believe it is only through Jesus Christ that she will be healed so can healing take place for someone like her absolutely we've already answered this let me just I'll turn the Jerry loose here in a second but yes a person that doesn't have a relationship with the Lord can be healed but what they believe is more important than what you believe and one of the biggest mistakes that people make is because they are believing in healing they are gonna make this person receive and you can't do that mark chapter 6 verse 5 says Jesus could do no mighty work because of their unbelief yes that's combined with Matthew 10 58 you put those together it's because of their unbelief and if Jesus who was operating perfectly in the power of God couldn't get every person healed well then I guarantee you you aren't so yes they have to have some degree of cooperation but to say that they have to be always strong in faith you would have to throw out 90% of the healings that Jesus performed I liken it to this if a person will put their car in neutral I can push it but you put it in park or put your foot on the brake and I'm not gonna move it so you have to at least be willing to receive the healing if I get it and release it through my faith but you don't have to be strong enough like the woman with him of his garment according to your faith be it done unto you back in 1988 we were in Rhema Bible Training Center and we were in a class called charismatic perspectives and they were reading Philip going down to Samaria and the power God fell in the room to the other place it seemed like waves I found myself on the floor is one of the very first experiences with this this joy and the some were weeping some were laughing I didn't understand it all but when I got out of there 45 minutes later I get in the car and the Holy Ghost says lay hands on your niece I'm gonna heal her well my brother to this day is not serving the Lord his wife is not serving the Lord and the little girl that not healed back in 1988 who's now a you know an adult she's not serving the Lord but she had a problem where she was gonna have to be on laxatives to the rest of her life and she had her tear glands had to be operated because they were shoved and you know I got there and whatever says if you can get him to cooperate and I asked my brother can I pray for your daughter and he said yes of course and I laid hands on that's all and nothing happened nobody fell nobody cried nobody laughed nothing I just did what the Holy Ghost said to do lay hands on your niece and I'm gonna heal her well I left for work and I came in late in the next morning I run into my sister-in-law and she says you know for the first time since Leslie was born she didn't cry all night she would cry because of the colleagues all night and she said and when she did cry this morning for her bottle for the first time she had tears running down her eyes and she's totally healed to this day totally healed but see the Holy Spirit led you to say can I pray if he would have said no you I we don't believe in this that would have stopped it but you don't have to have total faith just you know open the door a little bit there needs to be some cooperation and and this is where so many people make a mistake is that because you're so fired up and believing you're gonna make this person receive and that's setting yourself up for failure and then when they don't receive they'll say well I knew this wasn't real I think that we would be better served if we prayed less for people and instead ask them and you know Carly and Daniel have made this point yesterday and today great about how that you know you asked the people with the autistic boy what is it that you can believe and see you're you're getting that person involved and Jesus did this this is the whole reason I believe behind him spitting on the ground and making clay out of the spit and putting it on this man's eyes and making him walk 3/4 of a mile a blind man 3/4 of a mile through a busy city street he couldn't see why did he do that because this man needed to cooperate and it was different when people brought people to his meetings if you came to Jesus meetings you were kicked out of the synagogue in John chapter 9 it says that but when somebody pointed out the man like at the gate of the temple why was this man born blind this man didn't reach out he didn't reach out to Jesus and so Jesus gave him something to get him involved when a person came to his meetings already and had suffered the rejection and the you know the stereotype of being associated with Jesus he didn't have to do anything to them because they had already taken a step of faith but you always have to get some involvement from the person that you're praying for unless you have a word from God and if you got a word from God well then God knows that they've already in their heart opened up and let me also say that when you're ministering to another person you nearly need to be operating in the gifts of the Holy Spirit because there are thousands of things that can affect how a person receives and you you could talk to them for days and never figure out what the problem is you need the Holy Spirit to show you if they're receptive this is the reason that in my mean I don't do this a lot now because we have all of our students with us but when I used to travel by myself I would start operating in the gifts of the Holy Spirit and I would call out what a person was healed of and they would come forward and I'd see them heal and I knew that they were gonna be healed because the Holy Ghost told me that the person who has this was gonna be healing that's the reason I would do that is because you don't know for sure what's going on in a person's heart but if God calls out that this is being healed well then I know whatever had to happen had happened I'd start with them and once people started and others get here well then they had opened up and you'd you'd have a meeting then yes you know because because it's a heroin situation I think it's worth bringing up so you know that it's not it's actually difficult for people to receive healing but if people are gonna stay here there needs to be some renewal of their mind otherwise you know you can you can see people that are delivered from addiction supernaturally but if they haven't favorite renewed their mind they're gonna end up back in the same situation they're gonna go back to the same behavior I remember this story had out we had a lady come in and she was probably I know 80 years old and she was in a wheelchair and she could she could kind of stumble around with a walker she was crippled with arthritis and she received prayer and I tell you she ran around the room with a walker over her head and it was it was supernatural it was awesome she was delivered but then her husband comes along and he brings the wheelchair up at the end of the meeting says come on love and it was time to go home get back in his chair look go now and she gets back in her wheelchair and the next day she comes back in a wheelchair and she's got all the symptoms back again because it's not receiving is one thing but staying well is something completely different and that that can only happen that's what we need to make disciples people need to have their mind renewed in order to just hang on to what they've been given yes that's really good and ER this isn't a question that could you just do really quickly I think about this so often in the early days of your ministry when you would stay till you know my goodness two o'clock in the morning or whatever you know ministering after person after person after person some of those meetings with Dave do well you know that we did back in the day and from where you were then to what you're seeing now I often think about what must be going on in your heart I'm just thrilled I was overwhelmed today watching you and Carly and you know what it does for me I heard somebody say Lester Sumrall says the first two-thirds of your life the 60 years old you're learning and demonstrating and confirming and proving to yourself the word and then the last 30 years or the last segment of your life your disciple in others to raise it up and I'm in that stage in my life where it's all about making disciples yeah and I would rather see you and Carly and our prayer ministers see people healed than for me to pray form and be healed because you know what my days are numbered I believe I'm gonna lift a healthy old age and everything but you know what we've got to raise up other people to do this and this is the reason that we are having this conference is because we aren't wanting to just see you healed you know we could just get up here and operating the gifts of the Spirit and lay hands on you until we rub all a hair off the top of your head and we could get you healed through a gift of the Spirit and we're doing both because we need both but our focus really is to disciple you and to train you and I just am thrilled to see people that are receiving and I I think that this is gonna make a huge difference if everybody can go back to their churches and stuff and start flowing in this just think we we've had I think up to 1700 people counting the overflow and if we had 1700 people that were going out and if each one reached ten people in the next year man that'd be 17,000 people and you just keep this going out like ripples you know when you throw a rock in a stream and it's gonna make a huge difference and this is I couldn't reach that many people praying for them individually but if we could reach you and then you go out that's the only way we're gonna get stuff done yeah Libby let me just tag on to that that's what cares Bible College is about guys you know you know what you what you're seeing here and receiving here and healing is here at Karis Bible College it's it's that on steroids and you will learn and grow and I just want speaking to people to come to Karis and be that disciple that Andrews talking about it can go out and then undo these works of Jesus with confidence but you know to a degree it's for four o'clock today we've got an interest meeting yes yeah praise God you know to a degree it's discouraging and I don't know how to say this some of you may not understand what I'm saying but it's discouraging when I see people just lying up in front of me and I love praying for people and I love to see miracles but I I bet you there's probably like during all of the breaks I've been going downstairs to the people that are in the overflow room and praying for them and I bet I turned away a whole group of people today I turned away probably 50 people last night and I remember being in Orlando one time in praying until 3:00 a.m. and there was a woman in a wheelchair who about 2:30 just it had all she could take and she had to leave and I never did even get to her and pray with her and it's discouraging to think that I'm the bottleneck and God has to flow through me only and these other people don't get touched and so even though I love praying for people I hate to see people just look to me as the source and they've got to have me lay hands on it because I can only reach so many people but man the way that we're doing it here the way that Daniel and Carly have been teaching and things the word can set you free and that is limitless the word has been spoken over every person in this place and last night you know Daniel and Carly were up here and they they were ayran know it was excuse me this morning when they were praying this morning and there was a woman that came over and I know she's here I'm not criticizing or anything but I'm saying her husband had cancer and you'd call people up for cancer and you had already prayed for him and she came over and would you please pray for my husband and I said isn't he up here getting prayer yes but I want you to pray for him and you know what I I didn't do it out of meanness or anything but I said no I'm not gonna pray for him he needs to receive the word exactly what Carly was saying about you just flipped a switch and when you get the attitude that they were talking about that see you can't take me home with you but you can take the word home with you you can take the Lord home with you and so I actually am more excited when a person like Andrew Mullins that we showed I never touched him I never prayed for them they didn't call me I didn't even know about this testimony until it was over my anointing is to teach people the word I don't have a gift of healing and yet I've seen kind of miracle you can imagine just through the word and that's my morning with if you were listening to Carly today I'm the one that prayed over Hannah and they just hadn't grown to a place where they understood some things they just needed a boost and they had confidence that if I prayed and so I'm thrilled to be a part of it but if you heard Carly today Ashley and Carly were already strong as horseradish man they were believing God and when Hannah started to have some symptoms come back man they took their authority they didn't call me they didn't come running back to me and this is the kind of testimony that I delight in because that's the only way it's gonna last we've got to get our eyes off of just the super dooper 'he's one person which again god uses certain people that have giftings because if the only way you could be healed was to get the Word of God working in you we had all died before we ever grew to that point so we need both but I believe God's best is to teach you how to stand in the word and let God's Word be health to all of your flesh and that's what we're emphasizing in Karis Bible College now we bring in Jerry and we have other people that you know just flowing these gifts and great things happen because again God loves everybody you know I was thinking I think it was just last year it could have been two years ago that we had a student who was here and she had been sitting under the word I think that this was either January or February or D when do you come normally February and so anyway she'd been in school for six months and we've been teaching her the word and she was standing on everything she knew but whatever her I forget now what the problem was but whatever her problem was she was having so much problems she went into the hospital okay and she had just gotten out of the hospital the day that Jerry came and we had been ministering to her and yet Jerry just laughed got her laughing her I don't know what you did and this walnut was instantly healed after six months of sitting under the words she didn't get it but then he blows on her and I was in that classroom and I read the scripture in Luke 4 where the Spirit of the Lord is upon I didn't lay hands on her you were there too she just got it she just stood up in her desk I mean right in her before she was and she stood up and started jumping and the class went wild I didn't know what was so it was probably a combination she'd been getting taught the Word of God but you were the catalyst if you understand catalyst you know you can take two chemicals that don't do anything but bow you add a catalyst to that and it's an explosion just takes place and so God uses people like Jerry to just ignite that fire and stuff and we need both but I really believe long-term the body of Christ needs to learn the word of God and learn how to stand in the word and that's what we're after so you know I believe this is a this is a word of knowledge so I just want to share that you God's brought some of you here and youth that you thought it was to receive your healing but God's got a greater vision for you he's speaking to some of you about being about coming to Karras Bible College leaving behind what what you know and getting out of your rut and becoming this disciple a God that can be trained to go out with the Word of God and change your world and so we have a meeting today at 4 o'clock but I just I believe downstairs but I believe with all my heart there are people that that you you thought you were coming for one reason and you you are our have or will receive your healing but the bottom line is that that God's got another had another thing in mind and and he wants what he's after is you becoming that disciple and he's calling you here to care as Bible College I'm just gonna be bold about it if you if you'll just respond to him and you watch and see what he'll do with your life and let me say that the common thread among all of these testimonies Hannah's healing we got Scott forthe site where is he over here someplace right here is Scott and he's on one of our healing journeys miraculously heal and we've got what 25 or something he we got thousands and thousands of testimonies and they were all touched through my ministry but did you know that the majority of those healing testimonies I never touched them I never did a thing my anointing is to teach the Word of God and faith comes by hearing and then they received directly from the Lord and even though I may be the one that lay hands on them I laid hands on Hannah but it was actually Ashley and Carly they didn't give you the whole thing but for two weeks they had been saturating themselves I bet you fifteen hours a day or more in the word and and it was the word that produced the healing that brought the faith that allowed them to be able to do it and as a matter of fact I remember we were in Florida and Ashley and Carly were with me and there was a little girl had the exact same thing that Hannah had she was eight years old and so she had been able to eat a little bit but she was really in bad shape and she was dying and it was the exact same thing and so the parents came to me or the mother came to me and asked me to pray for her girl and since Ashley and Carly were here and had already released their faith in this area I had them come over and they prayed for this little girl and I mean for what a month she started eating anything and everything it was absolutely miraculous and yet there was a split custody over this child there was a divorce and when the husband found out that she had quit the special diet and that she was allowing her daughter to eat anything he hit the roof got mad threatened to take the child away so the mother put her back on that formula and went back to this and the child died within two or three months of that and yet she was just as totally healed as Hannah was the difference was see Ashley and Carly were standing in faith and so people I think give the person who's praying too much credit and again I'm not trying to discredit anybody God loves all of us and there's a lot that goes into walking with the Lord and learning how to renew your mind and stuff so I'm not trying to discredit anybody but Jesus is one who gets all of the credit the number one way that he desires to touch your life is directly from him he doesn't want you to have to go through somebody with their collar turned around backwards if your collars turned around backwards you're going the wrong direction that's awesome wow man we've got about five minutes left this is going so quickly and so good are you enjoying this yeah here's probably our last question but we'll see maybe we might have time for two more but have been prayed with for blindness in one eye from an accident 60 years ago healing was received how do I live in an attitude of quote I'm not leaving until healing manifests in quote when my practical mind knows the conference is going to end soon and we're all back to life's demands again well let me say the proverbs 13 12 says Hope deferred makes the heart sick you need to make sure that your goal that you set is a godly goal and they've dealt with this today we've said it a number of times but in mark chapter 11 Jesus spoke to the fig tree and Carlee did a great job talking about this today but nothing happened immediately and it was 24 hours later before the manifestation comes so I think that it's wrong to set as a goal as a hope I'm not leaving until my healing manifest I think it would be appropriate to say I'm not leaving until I know that I'm healed and you can know that you're healed and not have the full manifestation of it some things take a little bit of time so I think that they attitude of saying I'm not leaving this place until I know that I know that I know that I'm healed that's okay but you can't necessarily control the manifestation there's a lot of things involved with that and you're setting yourself up for failure and then disappointment in your heart being sick need to be careful checking once twice yep okay last one if I get prayer for healing than once am i saying I don't believe and have lack of faith because I've received prayer more than once and then is it okay to pray for someone if they've already asked for a specific area of prayer before well Jesus prayed with people more than once so I think that's a good benchmark and you know what we are all in the journey and we don't do this perfectly and sometimes we need a little bit of assistance we need someone to come alongside us and be a coach and and come and stand in agreement with us and so really you know we're route we're coming in faith and I would question if you keep going back for prep for the same thing I would start you know do some some heart search in what's my motivation what's my motivation because the truth is if we really do believe perfectly 100% in faith all the time which I don't think anyone ever does then we would only need to pray one time and then it will be done but no one's actually there you know I mean it's like we're all on the journey and we win some victories you know when when David went after Goliath the reason he had confidence to kill Goliath was because he'd fought the lion and the bear first you know sometimes we just need to get a victory in an errand it gives us some momentum and it encourages our faith and then we get stronger in an error and we along we go it's like an like an apple on it's like rolling down a hill we gather some momentum but I don't think there's a problem in and having receiving prayer more than one time you're looking for for a prayer of agreement but check your heart motivation you know because when we we need to get to the point where we believe that when we pray we release life and power in our words and those words just like with the fig tree those words are working on the inside of us so if you come for prayer again make sure that you're not digging up your seed of faith with the shovel of unbelief it depends on your heart on your attitude if you are asking for prayer because Daniel prayed for you and it didn't work Greg prayed for you and nothing happened so I asked Carly some people do the line and if that's your attitude you are hurting yourself by getting multiple prayer because you didn't believe that you received when you prayed and that's the reason nothing happened but there's different types of prayer Ephesians chapter 6 says praying with all types of Prayer all kinds of prayers what it says in the King James so if there's like a prayer of petition where you ask for something you only ask for at once if you ask for twice one of those two times you asked in unbelief because if you would have believed that you received when you prayed mark 11:24 you wouldn't have asked for it again so if you ask for it over and over and over that's unbelief and that's incorrect but there's different types of Prayer you can receive a prayer of petition where you asked for something ask for healing but then you go and say Jerry I know I'm healed I believed I received but I hadn't seen my manifestation would you agree with me and I won't your anointing to help me that's a prayer of agreement you can get that a thousand times you can pray a prayer of praise which the Bible says that prays is strength to still the enemy and the Avenger so you can have prayer and you can ask somebody just praise God with me that I've been healed and man you can pool your resources and that's powerful and there's different types of Prayer but if you're asking for something over and over because you didn't believe you got it the first time you just dug up your seed with your shovel of unbelief I thought that was really good what Greg do you want to give us a little hint on what you're gonna talk on tonight or do you want to keep it a secret well you just pray it God will show you okay there you go no I'm fine now I'm gonna talk well I'm gonna talk tonight about the enemy of the enemies of your healing and what really it's identifying some of those things that Andrew taught Andrew actually talked taught us about how to develop an attitude of faith in healing but I'm working I'm going after 40 years of walking health free and receiving healing and cancer and other things God's taught me some things of some enemies to watch out for to drive keep out of your land so that you can keep this it will help you develop this attitude that Andrew talked about the other other day so we'll talk about that tonight that's all and and then not only that those enemies will be identified you catch a thief he has to restore Sevenfold and I'm telling you enemy's gonna pay back and healings manifesting tonight all over this place amen yeah Samantha those of you who might be local if you've got some friends man bring him tell you this is gonna be an awesome night tonight you're not gonna want to miss this so again can we just say thank you to our panel today for taking the time to answering these questions what a great time together panel thank you guys so much what a blessing Thank You Carly and I'd like to ask our prime ministers if you would come up and we're gonna have a time again of ministry this afternoon we've got to be out of the auditorium here at what time Tracy by 4 o'clock so we've got about an hour here that we can invest and we are happy delighted to be able to do that and again tonight we're gonna have an amazing time together as we worship and and just celebrate God's grace in this place so again those of you joining us on the internet we just want to say thank you for being a part of this session as well and that we look forward to joining you back tonight it's gonna be an amazing time of ministry go get some friends go get some neighbors have been joining you tonight it's gonna be incredible so again those of you who would like to have hands laid on you a personal prayer personal ministry maybe a prayer of agreement as Andrew was talking about just now this is a time that we have made available for that to happen so again if you would just come just come and and let our prime ministers minister to you those of you who are not gonna be receiving prayer you are free to leave and god bless you get ready for tonight get your expectation man it's gonna be amazing we're gonna have an awesome time together those of you who are leaving just a reminder please take your things out with you whatever you leave will be removed because they have to clean the auditorium so just make sure that you take whatever it is with you out and then that way you'll have it with you you

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