[BACKGROUND SOUNDS]. [BACKGROUND SOUNDS]. [BACKGROUND SOUNDS]. [BACKGROUND SOUNDS]. [BACKGROUND SOUNDS]. [BACKGROUND SOUNDS]. [BACKGROUND SOUNDS]. [BACKGROUND SOUNDS]. >> GOOD EVENING LADIES AND GENTLEMEN. I COULD ASK EVERYONE TO TAKE THEIR SEATS PLEASE. MY NAME IS JANET BROWN. JENNIFER BROWN: I WOULD LIKE TO WELCOME YOU TO THE FIRST PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE OF 2020. THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE MADE EXTRAORDINARY CONTRIBUTIONS TO MAKING THIS EVENING POSSIBLE. IN A FEW MOMENTS YOU WILL HEAR FROM TWO OF OUR COCHAIRS TO START THE APPRECIATION TO THOSE WHO HAVE HELPED. ARTHUR COCHAIR, IS IN LOUISVILLE KENTUCKY TONIGHT. HER LEADERSHIP IN THE DEBATES GOES BACK TO 1976 AND INCLUDES THE PRESIDENCY OF THE WOMEN VOTERS. THE CPD IS THE BENEFICIARY OF 33 YEARS OF WHERE THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN WILLING TO PUT THE NAME AND HARD WORK. TO ALL OF THOSE FORMER PRESIDENTS AND CHANCELLORS OF DEBATE SITES TO FORMER MODERATORS MEMBERS OF OUR DEBATE INTERNATIONAL NETWORK. THE SET THE CLOCK TO 3:00 A.M. TOMORROW MORNING TO TUNE IN LIFE. WE THANK YOU WITH ALL OUR HEARTS. IN 19827 . THE COFOUNDERS OF THE CBD. I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE THE COCHAIR, FRANK AND IS CALLING ARE ALSO OUR COCHAIRS JIM WALLIS TO START THIS PART OF THE PROGRAM. [APPLAUSE]. >> THANK YOU LADIES AND GENTLEMEN AND THANK YOU JANET . AND WELCOME TO THE HEALTH AND EDUCATION CAMPUS. IF YOU HAVE NOT HAD THE OPPORTUNITY YET, TO GO AROUND AND SEE THIS FANTASTIC FACILITY. YOU REALLY SHOULD. IT JUST A GREAT TRIBUTE TO EVERYONE WHO'S BEEN INVOLVED WITH IT . AND IS SO IMPORTANT TO OUR NATION. JUST AS JANET MENTIONED, THAT THIS IS THE MOST CHALLENGING TIME FOR THIS COMMISSION AND IS 33 YEARS OF DISTANCE DUE TO THE CORONAVIRUS. SO ANY PEOPLE AS JANET SAID, ARE RESPONSIBLE. WE NORMALLY DON'T COME OUT, COCHAIRMAN AND I COME OUT OF THINK PEOPLE BUT WE WOULD NOT BE HERE TODAY IF IT HAD NOT BEEN FOR THEM. AS WE SERVICE BOTH THE SPONSOR AND THE PRODUCERS OF THE DEBATES. WE HAVE A CREW OF 65 PEOPLE. MOST HAVE BEEN WITH US FOR YEARS. SOME OF THEM GO BACK TO THE FIRST DEBATES IN 1988. AND THANKS SO MUCH TO UNITED AIRLINES WHO STEPPED UP TO THE PLATE AND GRACIOUSLY PROVIDED TO FLIGHT ARE WHOLE CREW FROM ONE SITE TO ANOTHER. THROUGHOUT THE REST OF THE TERM OF THESE DEBATES. SO WE HAVE A GREAT SHOUT OUT TO UNITED AIRLINES . AND WITH US FOR 28 YEARS AND CONFIRM IN WASHINGTON DC. ALSO SPECIAL THANKS TO SOME PEOPLE IN THE NETWORK BUSINESS. THE JOURNALISM BUSINESS. CBS NEWS RADIO AND COMMUNICATIONS. IN THE HOTEL, BEHIND US, INTERCONTINENTAL IS A TREMENDOUSLY LARGE ROOM WHICH IS CALLED THE MEDIA FILING CENTER. THIS ONLY, I GUESS ABOUT 700 PEOPLE IN THERE TODAY. WE USUALLY HAVE THREE TO 5000 PEOPLE IN THE MEDIA FILING CENTER. SO THEY GOT DOWN THAT WE HAVE HAD. YOU CAN LOOK AROUND THIS AUDIENCE . WE NORMALLY HAVE 900 PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE. YOU PEOPLE ARE VERY FORTUNATE TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE TONIGHT. THE NATIONAL PRESS CLUB IN WASHINGTON DC TONIGHT, SO STAY ANY IT FILING CENTER TO THOSE JOURNALISTS IN WASHINGTON WHO CANNOT BE HERE TONIGHT. SO WERE VERY THANKFUL FOR THAT . ANY OF YOU AS HE FACES HERE GOOD KNOWN AND BEEN IN THE AUDIENCE BEFORE. THERE WILL BE AN ESTIMATE OF MOST EXPERTS, CLOSE TO 1,120,000,000 PEOPLE WATCHING THIS DEBATE THIS EVENING. THE BE IN THE TBC SETS, THE ON THE COMPUTERS. IT WILL BE IN THE IPADS. IT WILL BE ON THEIR IPHONES. THERE ARE LISTENING ON THE RADIO. THOSE 120 MILLION, WORKS OUT TO BE PRESERVED TO BE ABLE TO LISTEN AND OBSERVE ON THE STATION I COME THESE TWO MEN BEFORE THE REASONS WHY THE SHOULD BE ELECTED PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. AND THAT IS WHY IN OUR HISTORY AND THE GENERAL ELECTION DEBATES, THE MERE JAR AUDIENCES, NOT TO CLAP, NOT TO YELP. SIT SILENTLY. DO NOT INTERFERE WITH THESE PEOPLE WHO ARE TRYING TO ASCERTAIN WHO THEY ARE GOING TO VOTE FOR. NOW EXACTLY AT 9:00 O'CLOCK, YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR A LOT OF NOISE BEHIND YOU. IF YOU TURN AROUND NOW YOU CAN TAKE A QUICK LOOK AT THAT THREE IN THE SIDE AND THREE IN THE SITE. THESE ARE THE MAJOR NETS. AND I CHART YOU WILL HAVE THEM ALL GO ON AIR. AND SO MAKES A LITTLE NOISE. DO NOT BE AFRAID BY IT. AND AT THE END, I THINK THE PEOPLE THAT YOU SAW UNDERWAY HERE TONIGHT. AND YOU SEE AROUND HERE. THE FEDERAL BUREAU INVESTIGATION, THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY AND THE UNIVERSITY MEDIA FRANTIC IS WORKING WITH US AND MONITORING THE WEB AND SOCIAL MEDIA. SO THERE ARE SO ANY PEOPLE TO THINK IN THESE MEN AND WOMEN IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT THAT YOU SAW OUTSIDE. LOCAL POLICE DEPARTMENT WHO WORK SO HARD TO KEEP US SAFE AND KEEP HER NATIONSTATE. THANK YOU AND I WOULD LIKE TO USE OUR NEWEST MEMBER OF THE LEADERSHIP TEAM . TEN WALLACE AND FOR TENDING AND TREND 25 YEARS, RUN THE NATIONAL DEMOCRATIC INSTITUTE AT THAT DI AND WHERE REALLY EXCITED TO HAVE HIM JOIN US AS COCHAIR. >> JOINED FRANK AND JANET AND SEVERAL BOARD MEMBERS INCLUDING YVONNE AND ANOTHER WHO ARE WITH US TONIGHT AND WELCOME YOU TO THE 23rd PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE SPONSORED AND ORGANIZED BY THE COMMISSION ON PRESIDENTIAL DEBATES. AS FRANK SAID, AND THE COMMISSION'S NEWEST COCHAIR. AND AS THE NEW KID ON THE BLOCK, I AM PROUD TO WORK ALONGSIDE THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN ENGAGED IN THIS INITIATIVE FOR THE PAST 33 YEARS. THESE DEBATES HAVE NOW BECOME AN INTEGRAL PART OF OUR POLITICAL PROCESS. IN VIEW SHARED THE MOST IMPORTANT JUDGE, THE AMERICAN ELECTORATE . BUT SIGNIFICANT AS DEBATES HAVE BECOME HERE, THEY CAN BE EVEN MORE CONSEQUENTIAL OVERSEAS. FOR THE COMMISSION IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE NATIONAL DEMOCRATIC INSTITUTE IS ORGANIZED MORE THAN 400 DEBATES IN 45 NATIONS. AND IN NEW EMERGING DEMOCRACIES, LEVELING THE FIELD WHERE ONLY ONE PARTY IS REAL. THEY DISCUSS ON POLICY ISSUES AND NOT PERSONALITIES AND YET THEY HAVE PROMOTED AMONG POLITICAL COMPETITORS. THAT IS COMEDY WITH A T. IN THIS EFFORTS IN THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A GLOBAL NETWORK A SIMILAR DEBATE ORGANIZATION FOR NEARLY 40 COUNTRIES. IN THE DEBATES INTERNATIONAL. NOW I WOULD CALL YOUR ATTENTION TO THE COMMISSIONS SPONSORED DEBATE WATCH 2020. IN THE PARTICIPATION BY WATCH GROUPS IN ALL 50 STATES. FROM A HAIR SALON OWNERS IN CLEVELAND HEIGHTS HOSTING TEN EMPLOYEES TO THE ATLANTIC COUNCIL HOSTING A GLOBAL AUDIENCE FOR MORE THAN 80000. IT THE GOAL OF THE DEBATE WATCH IS NOT TO SAY WHO ONE OR WHO LOST. KENNETH WOLLACK: BUT TO SHARE VIEWS WITH THOSE WHO AGREE AND THOSE WHO DO NOT. SOME LISTEN RESPECTFULLY TO KEEP EACH OTHER'S OPINIONS. WE ARE PLEASED THAT THE COMMISSIONS LONGEST STANDING SUPPORTERS, JUDY AND PETER ARE IN THE AUDIENCE TONIGHT. [APPLAUSE]. FOR 32 YEARS, FOR JUDY AND PETER THE FOUNDATION HAS GIVEN ITS TRUST TO THE NONPARTISAN MISSION OF THE COMMISSION. WE ARE DEEPLY GRATEFUL FOR THE BELIEF IN OUR WORK AND THEIR EXTRAORDINARY CONTRIBUTIONS IN THE 2020 DEBATE. IT IS NOW MY DISTINCT HONOR TO INTRODUCE DOCTOR PRESIDENT OF THE CLEVELAND CLINIC AND BARBARA SNYDER, PRESIDENT OF CASE WESTERN RESERVE UNIVERSITY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. [APPLAUSE]. GOOD EVENING. ON BEHALF OF THE CLINIC IT IS MY PLEASURE TO WELCOME YOU TO THE CITY OF CLEVELAND. TONIGHT, YOU JOIN US IN THE BEAUTIFUL PAVILION OF THE HEALTH EDUCATION CAMPUS AT THE CLEVELAND CLINIC. ASSURANCE CAMPUS WITH HER PARTNERS FROM CASE WESTERN RESERVE UNIVERSITY. THIS BUILDING IS VERY SPECIAL TO US. IT WAS OPENED JUST A YEAR AGO IS A PLACE FOR STUDENTS MEDICAL NURSING AND DENTAL TO BEGIN THEIR PROFESSIONAL JOURNEYS BY LEARNING TOGETHER AS TEAMS. AND AT THAT TIME AS WE WERE OPENING THIS CAMPUS, NONE OF US COULD HAVE DEMANDED AND IMAGINED THAT WE WOULD SOON FACE A WORLDWIDE PANDEMIC. WHEN IT HAPPENED, WE CONVERTED THIS BUILDING INTO A COVID-19 SEARCH HOSPITAL. THE SPACE IN WHICH YOU ARE SITTING RIGHT NOW, HAD 1000 HOSPITAL BEDS. WE CALL IT THE HOPE HOSPITAL. THANKFULLY THE SURGE DID NOT COME. BUT TONIGHT, THIS BUILDING SERVES ANOTHER PURPOSE. IN SUPPORT OF OUR DEMOCRACY, IT'S OF COURSE DIRECT LOCATION FOR US IN OUR CITY. WE ARE PROUD TO SUPPORT THE COMMISSION ON PRESIDENTIAL DEBATES. IN HER HEALTH SECURITY ADVISORS. WITH THE CLEVELAND CLINIC AND ARE 70000 CAREGIVERS HAVE BEEN SERVING THE HEALTH NEEDS IN CLEVELAND SINCE 1921. NEARLY 100 YEARS. YET OUR ORGANIZATION AND OUR CAREGIVERS HAVE NEVER SHONE BRIGHTER AND DURING THIS PANDEMIC. THE PANDEMIC HAS BROUGHT OUT THE BEST OF OUR ORGANIZATION AND OUR CAREGIVERS IN OUR CITY AND OUR STATE . WERE IN COLLABORATION, WE SEE HOW MUCH WE CAN ACCOMPLISH WHEN WE WORK TOGETHER. AND IN PARTICULARLY, PROUD OF OUR WESTERN RESERVE UNIVERSITY SPRAYED WITH THAT I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE MY COLLEAGUE AND FRIEND, PRESIDENT OF THE UNIVERSITY, BARBARA SNYDER. [APPLAUSE]. >> THANK YOU. CASE WESTERN RESERVE IS HONORED TO COMPOST THIS PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE WITH HER PARTNERS AT CLEVELAND CLINIC AND DELIGHTED TO SHOW YOU THIS SPECTACULAR SPACE THAT WE CREATED TOGETHER. RESEARCH HAS LONG SHOWN THE TEAM -BASED HEALTHCARE SEEMS TO BETTER OUTCOMES FOR THE PATIENTS . IN NEARLY EVERY ACADEMIC INSTITUTION CONTINUES TO PREPARE STUDENTS IN SEPARATE BUILDINGS . LITERALLY IN SILOS. YET AFTER SPENDING YEARS LEARNING ONLY WITH STUDENTS FROM THE SAME PROFESSION, THE DOCTORS OR DOCTORS AND NURSES WITH NURSES AND SO ON. THEY'RE SUDDENLY EXPECTED TO KNOW HOW TO WORK IN TEAMS ONCE THEY GET THEIR DIPLOMAS. WE KNEW THERE HAD TO BE A BETTER WAY. IN TOGETHER WE BUILT IT. WERE NOT FILLED WITH THE STAGE AND SEATS, THIS ATRIUM GIVES HUNDREDS OF STUDENTS A HUGE OPEN SPACE TO STUDY, TALK, AND SIMPLY BE TOGETHER. THE ENTIRE BUILDING PROVIDES MULTIPLE SPACES FOR THEM TO COME TOGETHER SUPPORTED BY AN ECONOMIC MODEL THAT EMPHASIZES OPPORTUNITIES TO LEARN WITH AND FROM ONE ANOTHER. AS STATE-OF-THE-ART TECHNOLOGY, AND WE KNOW OUR GRADUATES WILL BE UNIQUELY PREPARED TO EXCEL IN TEAM -BASED CARE AND ULTIMATELY TO LEAD IT. ALONG THE WAY CLEVELAND CLINIC ALSO LEARN FROM ONE ANOTHER. AMONG THE MOST VALUABLE LESSONS WAS THAT TRUE COLLABORATION WE ACHIEVED FAR MORE THAN EITHER OF US COULD ACHIEVE ALONE. THANK YOU TOM FOR BEING SUCH A WONDERFUL COLLEAGUE AND FRIEND. THANK YOU TO THE COMMISSION FOR GIVING BOTH OF OUR ORGANIZATIONS THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE PART OF THIS HISTORIC EVENT. IT IS A TRUE PRIVILEGE TO CONTRIBUTE TO OUR NATIONS DEMOCRATIC PROCESS. THANK YOU ALL FOR WATCHING. [APPLAUSE]. >> THANK YOU TOM AND BARBARA VERY MUCH. MOST VALUABLE PLAYER AWARD FOR THIS EVENING GOES TO CALL KOBE COSGROVE, WE CANNOT HAVE DONE IT WITHOUT YOU. THANK YOU. WHEN HOUSEKEEPING BIT FOR THE AUDIENCE, AS SOON AS THIS DEBATE IS OVER, CAN PLEASE REMAIN SEATED, TO BE WHICH WAY TO EXIT. AND PLEASE STAY WHERE YOU ARE UNTIL THAT HAPPENS. I WOULD LIKE TO NOW INTRODUCE CHRIS WALLACE, THE MODERATOR THIS EVENING'S DEBATE. [SILENCE]. [SILENCE]. [SILENCE] [SILENCE] [SILENCE] [SILENCE] [SILENCE] WALLACE: GOOD EVENING FROM THE HEALTH EDUCATION CAMPUS FROM CASE WESTERN UNIVERSITY AND CLINIC. I AM CHRIS WALLACE OF FOX NEWS AND I WELCOME YOU TO THE FIRST OF THE 2020 PRESIDENTIAL DEBATES BETWEEN PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP AND FORMER PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN. THE COMMISSION HAS DESIGNED THE FORMAT SIX ROUGHLY 15 MINUTE SEGMENTS FOR THE FIRST CANDIDATE TO OPEN AND OPEN DISCUSSIONS FOR THE REST OF EACH SEGMENT. BOTH CAMPAIGNS HAVE AGREED TO THESE RULES. FOR THE RECORD, I DECIDED TO THE TOPICS AND QUESTIONS IN EACH TOPIC. I CAN ASSURE YOU NONE OF THE QUESTIONS HAVE BEEN SHARED WITH THE COMMISSION OR THE TWO CANDIDATES. THIS DEBATE IS BEING CONDUCTED UNDER HEALTH AND SAFETY PROTOCOLS DESIGNED BY THE CLEVELAND CLINIC'S SERVING AS THE HEALTH SECURITY ADVISOR TO THE COMMISSION FOR ALL DEBATES. AS A PRECAUTION BOTH CAMPAIGNS HAVE AGREED THAT THE CANDIDATES WILL NOT SHAKE HANDS AT THE BEGINNING OF TONIGHT'S DEBATE. THE AUDIENCE HERE HAVE PROMISED TO REMAIN SILENT, NO CHEERS OR OTHER ENTERED OPTIONS, AND WE AND MORE IMPORTANTLY YOU CAN FOCUS ON WHAT THE CANDIDATES HAVE TO SAY. NO NOISE EXCEPT RIGHT NOW AS WE WELCOME THE REPUBLICAN NOMINEE, PRESENT DONALD TRUMP AND THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE VICE PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN. [APPLAUSE] GENTLEMEN, A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS NIGHT SO LET'S GET GOING. THE FIRST SUBJECT IS THE SUPREME COURT. SUPREME COURT. PRESIDENT TRUMP, YOU NOMINATED AMY KONY BARRETT AND SAY THE CONSTITUTION IS CLEAR ABOUT YOUR OBLIGATION AND THE SENATE TO CONSIDER A NOMINEE TO THE COURT. VICE PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN YOU SAY THIS IS AN EFFORT BY THE PRESIDENT AND REPUBLICANS TO JAM THROUGH AN APPOINTMENT AND WHAT YOU CALL AN ABUSE OF POWER. MY FIRST QUESTION TO BOTH OF YOU, WHY ARE YOU RIGHT IN THE ARGUMENT YOU MAKE AND YOUR OPPONENT WRONG, AND WHERE DO YOU THINK A JUSTICE BARRETT WOULD TAKE THE COURT. YOU GO FIRST. TRUMP: I WILL TELL YOU VERY SIMPLY, WE WON THE ELECTION. WE HAVE THE SENATE, WE HAVE THE WHITE HOUSE, AND WE HAVE A PHENOMENAL NOMINEE RESPECTED BY ALL TOP ACADEMIC, GOOD IN EVERY WAY IN FACT AS SOME OF HER BIGGEST ENDORSERS ARE VERY LIBERAL PEOPLE FROM NOTRE DAME AND OTHER PLACES, SO I THINK SHE'S GOING TO BE FANTASTIC. WE HAVE PLENTY OF TIME, EVEN IF WE DID IT AFTER THE ELECTION ITSELF. I HAVE TIME AFTER. SO I THINK SHE WILL BE OUTSTANDING AND SHE IS GOING TO BE AS GOOD AS ANYBODY THAT HAS SERVED ON THAT COURT. I REALLY FEEL THAT. WE HAVE A PROFESSOR AT NOTRE DAME, HIGHLY RESPECTED BY ALL, THAT IS AS SHE IS THE SINGLE GREATEST STUDENT HE'S EVER HAD. HE'S BEEN A PROFESSOR FOR A LONG TIME. WE WON THE ELECTION AND THEREFORE HAVE THE RIGHT TO CHOOSE HER INTO VERY FEW PEOPLE WOULD SAY OTHERWISE. BY THE WAY, THE DEMOCRATS WOULDN'T THINK ABOUT NOT DOING IT. THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS TO TRY TO DO IT FASTER. THERE IS NO WAY THEY WOULD GIVE IT UP. THEY HAD MERRIT GARLAND BUT IT WAS STOPPED AND THAT WOULD HAVE AN IN REVERSE ALSO. SO, WE WON THE ELECTION AND WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO DO IT. WALLACE: THANK YOU. SAME QUESTION TO YOU, VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN. BIDEN: FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR DOING THIS. THE AMERICAN PEOPLE HAVE THE RIGHT TO HAVE A SAY IN WHO THE SUPREME COURT NOMINEE IS AND THAT OCCURS WHEN THEY VOTE FOR A UNITED STATES SENATOR AND WHEN THEY VOTE FOR THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. THEY ARE NOT GOING TO GET THAT CHANCE NOW BECAUSE WE ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF AN ELECTION ALREADY. IT'S ALREADY STARTED. THE TENS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE HAVE ALREADY VOTED AND SO THE THING THAT SHOULD HAPPEN IS WE SHOULD WAIT. WE SHOULD WAIT AND SEE WHAT THE OUTCOME IS, BECAUSE THAT IS THE ONLY WAY THE AMERICAN PEOPLE GET TO EXPRESS THEIR VIEW IS BY WHO THEY ELECT AS PRESIDENT AND WHO THEY ELECT AS VICE PRESIDENT. WHAT'S AT STAKE THE PRESIDENT HAS MADE IT CLEAR HE WANTS TO GET RID OF THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT. HE'S BEEN RUNNING ON THAT AND HE'S BEEN GOVERNING ON THAT. HE IS IN THE SUPREME COURT RIGHT NOW TRYING TO GET RID OF THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT WHICH WILL STRIP 20 MILLION PEOPLE FROM HAVING INSURANCE, HEALTH INSURANCE NOW, IF IT GOES INTO COURT. AND THE JUSTICE -- AND I'M NOT OPPOSED TO THE JUSTICE. SHE SEEMS LIKE A FINE PERSON, BUT SHE'S WRITTEN BEFORE SHE WENT ON THE BENCH -- WHICH IS HER RIGHT -- SHE THINGS THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT IS NOT CONSTITUTIONAL. THE OTHER THING ON THE COURT IS IT IS STRUCK DOWN WHAT HAPPENS. WOMEN'S RIGHTS ARE FUNDAMENTALLY CHANGED. ONCE AGAIN, A WOMAN COULD BE HANDED MONEY BECAUSE SHE HAS A PRE-EXISTING CONDITION OF PREGNANCY. THEY CHARGE A WOMAN MORE FOR THE PROCEDURE A MAN WOULD GET, AND THAT ENDED WHEN WE IN FACT PAST OF THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT. AND IF THERE IS 100 MILLION PEOPLE WITH PRE-EXISTING CONDITIONS AND THEY WILL BE TAKEN AWAY AS WELL. THOSE PRE-EXISTING CONDITIONS, INSURANCE COMPANIES ARE GOING TO LOVE THIS. SO IT'S NOT APPROPRIATE TO DO THIS BEFORE THIS ELECTION. IF HE WINS AND OF THE SENATE IS DEMOCRAT OR REPUBLICAN, THEN HE GOES FORWARD. IF NOT, WE SHOULD WAIT UNTIL FEBRUARY. TRUMP: THERE AREN'T 100 MILLION WITH PRE-EXISTING CONDITIONS. PEOPLE ALREADY HAVE THEIR SAY. OKAY. JUSTICE GINSBURG SAID VERY POWERFULLY AND VERY STRONGLY AT SOME .10 YEARS AGO OR SO, SHE SAID A PRESIDENT IN THE SENATE IS ELECTED FOR A PERIOD OF TIME, BUT THE PRESIDENT IS ELECTED FOR FOUR YEARS. I AM NOT ELECTED FOR THREE YEARS, SO WE HAVE THE SENATE, WE HAVE A PRESIDENT, DURING THE PERIOD OF TIME, DURING WITHOUT A PERIOD OF TIME WE HAVING AN OPENING. I'M NOT ELECTED FOR THREE YEARS. I AM ELECTED FOR FOUR YEARS. JOE, 100 MILLION PEOPLE I DON'T KNOW WHERE YOU GOT THAT NUMBER. AT THE BIGGER PROBLEM THAT YOU HAVE IS YOU ARE GOING TO EXTINGUISH 180 MILLION PEOPLE WITH THEIR PRIVATE HEALTHCARE. BIDEN: THAT IS NOT TRUE. WALLACE: GENTLEMEN, WE ARE NOW INTO OPEN DISCUSSION. GO AHEAD, VICE PRESIDENT. BIDEN: NUMBER ONE, HE KNOWS WHAT I PROPOSED. WHAT I PROPOSED. WHAT I PROPOSE DAYS THAT WE EXPAND OBAMACARE AND INCREASE IT. WE DO NOT WIPE ANY -- ONE OF THE DEBATES WE HAD WITH 23 OF MY COLLEAGUES TRYING TO WIN THE NOMINATION WERE SAYING BIDEN WANTED TO ALLOW PEOPLE TO HAVE PRIVATE INSURANCE STILL. IF THEY CAN. THEY DO AND THEY WILL UNDER MY PROPOSAL. THAT IS SIMPLY -- TRUMP: YOUR PARTY WANTS TO GO SOCIALIST AND THEY ARE GOING TO DOMINATE YOU, JOE. BIDEN: I'M THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY RIGHT NOW. THE PLATFORM OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY IS WHAT I COME IN FACT, APPROVED OF. NOW HERE'S THE DEAL, IT'S GOING TO WIPE OUT PRE-EXISTING -- BY THE WAY, THE 200,000 PEOPLE THAT HAVE DIED ON HIS WATCH, HOW MANY OF THOSE HAVE SURVIVED? OVER 7 MILLION PEOPLE HAVE CONTRACTED A COVID. WHAT DOES IT MEAN GOING FORWARD IF YOU STRIKE DOWN THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT? TRUMP: 308,000 MILITARY PEOPLE DIED BECAUSE YOU COULDN'T PROVIDE PROPER HEALTHCARE IN THE MILITARY, SO DON'T TELL ME -- AND IF YOU WERE HERE IT WOULD BE 2 MILLION PEOPLE BECAUSE WE WERE VERY LATE ON THE DRAW. CHINA WAS HEAVILY INFECTED -- WALLACE: GENTLEMEN -- BIDEN: YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT 2 MILLION PEOPLE. WE WILL TALK ABOUT THIS IN THE NEXT SEGMENT. TRUMP: THE PRESIDENT ALSO IS OPPOSED TO ROE V WADE. THAT IS ON THE BALLOT AS WELL AND SO THAT'S ALSO AT STAKE RIGHT NOW. BIDEN: WHY ISN'T IT IN THE BALLOT? TRUMP: YOU DON'T KNOW THE VIEW ON ROBY -- ROE V WADE. MODERATOR: WE HAVE A LOT OF TIME HERE. SO, ON HEALTHCARE AND THEN WE WILL COME BACK TO ROE V WADE. MR. PRESIDENT, WE WILL HEAR A CASE A WEEK AFTER THE ELECTION AND WHICH THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION, ALONG WITH 18 STATE ATTORNEYS GENERAL ARE THINKING TO OVERTURN OBAMACARE, TO END OBAMACARE. IF I MAY ASK THE QUESTION, SIR, OVER THE LAST FOUR YEARS YOU PROMISED TO REPEAL AND REPLACE OBAMACARE, BUT NEVER IN THE FOUR YEARS HAVE COME UP WITH A PLAN, A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO REPLACE OBAMACARE -- TRUMP: OF COURSE I HAVE. I'D GET RID OF THE INDIVIDUAL MANDATE -- THAT WAS THE WORST PART OF OBAMACARE -- MODERATOR: LET ME ASK MY QUESTION. TRUMP: IT WAS THE MOST POPULAR ASPECT OF OBAMACARE -- MODERATOR: I AM THE MODERATOR OF THIS DEBATE, AND I'D LIKE YOU TO LET ME ASK MY QUESTION. IN THE COURSE OF FOUR YEARS YOU'VE NEVER COME UP WITH A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO REPLACE OBAMACARE, AND JUST THIS LAST THURSDAY, YOU SIGNED A LARGELY SYMBOLIC EXECUTIVE ORDER TO PROTECT PEOPLE WITH PRE-EXISTING CONDITIONS FIVE DAYS BEFORE THIS DEBATE. SO, MY QUESTION IS WHAT IS THE TRUMP HEALTH CARE PLAN? TRUMP: FIRST OF ALL I GUESS I'M DEBATING YOU AND NOT HIM, BUT I'M NOT SURPRISED. THERE IS NOTHING SYMBOLIC. I'M CUTTING DRUG PRICES INTO GOING WITH NATIONS WHICH NO PRESIDENT HAS ENCOURAGED TO DO BECAUSE YOU ARE GOING AGAINST BIG PHARMA. AT THE PRICES WILL BE COMING DOWN 80 TO 90%. YOU COULD HAVE DONE IT DURING YOUR 47 YEAR PERIOD IN GOVERNMENT, BUT YOU DIDN'T DO IT. NOBODY HAS DONE IT. SO WE ARE CUTTING HEALTHCARE. ALL THE THINGS WE'VE DONE -- I GIVE AN EXAMPLE. INSULIN. IT WAS DESTROYING PEOPLE, DESTROYING FAMILIES. I'M GETTING IT FOR SO CHEAP IT'S LIKE WATER IF YOU WANT TO KNOW THE TRUTH. SO CHEAP. LOOK AT THE DRUGS, PRESCRIPTION DRUG PRICES. WE ARE GOING TO ALLOW GOVERNORS TO GO OTHER COUNTRIES TO BUY DRUGS BECAUSE THEY PAY JUST A TINY FRACTION -- MODERATOR: SIR, YOU WILL BE HAPPY I'M ABOUT TO PICK UP ON ONE OF YOUR POINTS TO ASK THE VICE PRESIDENT, WHICH IS HE POINTS OUT THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADD A PUBLIC OPTION TO OBAMACARE, AND THE ARGUMENT THAT HE MAKES AND OTHER REPUBLICANS MAKE IS THAT THAT IS GOING TO END PRIVATE INSURANCE -- IT WILL END PRIVATE INSURANCE AND CREATE A GOVERNMENT TAKEOVER OF HEALTHCARE. BIDEN: IT DOES NOT. IT'S ONLY FOR THOSE PEOPLE THAT ARE SO POOR THEY QUALIFY FOR MEDICAID. THEY CAN GET THAT FOR FREE IN MOST STATES EXCEPT GOVERNORS THAT WANT TO DENY PEOPLE THAT ARE POOR MEDICATED. MEDICAID. ANYONE WHO QUALIFIES FOR MEDICAID WOULD AUTOMATICALLY BE ENROLLED IN THE PUBLIC OPTION. THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WOULD STILL NOT BE IN THAT OPTION, NUMBER ONE. TRUMP: ON THE FAR LEFT ON THE MANIFESTO, THE SOCIALIZED MEDICINE AND YOU ARE SAYING YOU DON'T AGREE? BIDEN: THE FACT IS I BEAT BERNIE SANDERS. BY LOT. TRUMP: YOU HAVE LOST A LOT -- BIDEN: I GOT VERY LUCKY AND I MAY GET LUCKY TONIGHT AS WELL. BECAUSE HERE'S THE DEAL, HERE'S THE DEAL. THE FACT IS, EVERYTHING HE'S SAYING SO FAR IS SIMPLY A LIE. I'M NOT HERE TO CALL OUT HIS LIES. EVERYBODY KNOWS HE IS A LIAR. I WANT TO MAKE SURE -- MODERATOR: MR. PRESIDENT, CAN YOU LET HIM FINISH, SIR FAX. BIDEN: HE DOESN'T KNOW HOW TO DO THAT. [INAUDIBLE] BIDEN: THERE IS NO MANIFESTO. MODERATOR: LET HIM ANSWER, PLEASE. BIDEN: NUMBER TWO -- TRUMP: YOU AGREED WITH BERNIE SANDERS ON A PLAN. [INAUDIBLE] MODERATOR: MR. PRESIDENT -- TRUMP: HE IS NOT FOR ANY HELP FOR PEOPLE NEEDING HEALTHCARE, BECAUSE HE, IN FACT, ALREADY HAS COST 10 MILLION PEOPLE THEIR HEALTH CARE THAT THEY HAD FROM EMPLOYERS BECAUSE OF HIS RECESSION. NUMBER TWO, THERE ARE 20 MILLION PEOPLE GETTING HEALTHCARE THROUGH OBAMACARE AND HE WANTS TO TAKE IT AWAY. HE WON'T LOOK EVEN THE EYE AND SAY THAT'S WHAT HE WANTS TO DO. NUMBER THREE -- TRUMP: BETTER HEALTHCARE FOR BETTER PRICES. BIDEN: HE HAS NEVER OFFERED -- MODERATOR: IF YOU ARE BOTH SPEAKING AT THE SAME TIME -- TRUMP: OBAMACARE IS NOT GOOD. WE MADE IT BETTER. WE TOOK AWAY THE INDIVIDUAL MANDATE. WE GUARANTEED PRE-EXISTING CONDITIONS BUT TOOK AWAY THE INDIVIDUAL MANDATE. LISTEN, THIS IS THE WAY IT IS, AND THAT IT DESTROYED -- THEY SHOULDN'T EVEN CALL IT OBAMACARE. THEY HAD A CHOICE TO MAKE. DO I LET MY PEOPLE RUNNING REALLY WELL OR BADLY. THEY WILL PROBABLY BLAME HIM, BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY I WANT TO HELP PEOPLE. IF YOU HAVE TO RUN IT SO WELL AND I JUST HAD A MEETING WITH THEM. THEY SAID THE PROBLEM IS NO MATTER HOW WELL YOU RUN OBAMACARE, IT'S A DISASTER. IT'S TOO EXPENSIVE, THE PREMIUMS ARE TOO HIGH -- MODERATOR: I UNDERSTAND, SIR, BUT I HAVE TO GIVE YOU ROUGHLY EQUAL TIME. PLEASE LET THE VICE PRESIDENT TO TALK. BIDEN: HE HAS NO PLAN FOR HEALTHCARE. HE SENDS OUT WISHFUL THINKING. HE HAS EXECUTIVE ORDERS THAT HAVE NO POWER. HE HASN'T LOWERED DRUG COSTS FOR ANYBODY. HE HAS BEEN PROMISING THE PLAN SINCE HE GOT ELECTED. HE HAS NONE, ALMOST LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE HE TALKS ABOUT. HE DOES NOT HAVE A PLAN. HE DOESN'T HAVE A PLAN. THE FACT IS, THIS MAN DOESN'T KNOW WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT. MODERATOR: I HAVE ONE FINAL QUESTION FOR YOU, MR. VICE PRESIDENT. IF SENATE REPUBLICANS -- WE WERE TALKING ORIGINALLY ABOUT THE SUPREME COURT -- IF THE REPUBLICANS CONFIRM JUSTICE BARRETT, THERE'S BEEN TALK ABOUT ENDING THE FILIBUSTER OR EVEN PACKING THE COURT, ADDING TO THE NINE JUSTICES THERE. YOU CALL THIS A DISTRACTION BY THE PRESIDENT, BUT IN FACT IT WASN'T BROUGHT UP BY THE PRESIDENT. IT WAS BROUGHT UP BY SOME OF YOUR DEMOCRATIC COLLEAGUES. SO, MY QUESTION IS YOU HAVE REFUSED IN THE PAST TO TALK ABOUT IT. ARE YOU WILLING TO TELL THE AMERICAN PEOPLE TONIGHT WHETHER OR NOT YOU WILL SUPPORT EITHER ENDING THE FILIBUSTER OR PACKING THE COURT LACKS. BIDEN: WHATEVER POSITION I TAKE WILL BE THE ISSUE. THE AMERICAN PEOPLE SHOULD SPEAK. YOU SHOULD GO OUT AND VOTE. VOTE AND LET YOUR SENATORS KNOW HOW STRONGLY YOU FEEL. NOW. MAKE SURE YOU LET PEOPLE KNOW. I'M NOT GOING TO ANSWER THE QUESTION -- TRUMP: WHY WON'T YOU ANSWER THE QUESTION? WHO IS ON YOUR LIST? MODERATOR: GENTLEMEN, WE'VE ENDED THIS SEGMENT. WE ARE GOING TO MOVE ONTO THE NEXT. BIDEN: THAT WAS A VERY PRODUCTIVE SEGMENT. A. TRUMP: WITH THE PEOPLE UNDERSTAND. FORTY-SEVEN YEARS, YOU'VE DONE NOTHING. THEY UNDERSTAND. MODERATOR: THIS PUBLIC SECOND SUBJECT IS COVID-19. LET'S TRY TO BE SERIOUS ABOUT THIS. MORE THAN 7 MILLION CASES OF CORONAVIRUS IN THE UNITED STATES, AND MORE THAN 200,000 PEOPLE HAVE DIED. EVEN AFTER WE PRODUCE A VACCINE, EXPERTS SAY THAT IT COULD BE MONTHS OR EVEN YEARS BEFORE WE COME BACK TO ANYTHING APPROACHING NORMAL. MY QUESTION FOR BOTH OF YOU IS BASED ON WHAT YOU HAVE SAID AND DONE SO FAR AND WHAT YOU HAVE SAID YOU WOULD DO STARTING IN 2021, WHY SHOULD THE AMERICAN PEOPLE TRUST YOU MORE THAN YOUR OPPONENT TO DEAL WITH THIS PUBLIC HEALTH CRISIS GOING FORWARD IN THIS CASE THE QUESTION GOES TO YOU FIRST, SIR. TWO MINUTES, UNINTERRUPTED. BIDEN: GOOD LUCK. 200,000 DATA, 7 MILLION INFECTED IN THE UNITED STATES. WE HAVE 5%, 4% OF THE WORLD'S POPULATION. 20% OF THE DEATHS. 40,000 PEOPLE A DAY ARE CONTRACTING COVID. IN ADDITION TO THAT, ABOUT BETWEEN 752,000 PEOPLE ARE DYING. WHEN HE WAS PRESENTED THAT NUMBER, HE SAID IT IS WHAT IT IS BECAUSE YOU ARE WHO YOU ARE. THAT'S WHY IT IS. THE PRESIDENT HAS NO PLAN. HE HASN'T LAID OUT ANYTHING. HE KNEW ALL THE WAY BACK IN FEBRUARY HOW SERIOUS THIS CRISIS WAS. HE KNEW IT WAS A DEADLY DISEASE. WHAT DID HE DO? HE IS ON TAPE ACKNOWLEDGING HE KNEW IT. HE SAYS HE DIDN'T TELL PEOPLE OR GIVE A WARNING BECAUSE HE DIDN'T WANT TO PANIC THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. YOU DON'T PANIC, HE PANICKED. WHAT DID HE DO, HE WENT IN AND WE WERE INSISTING THAT THE PEOPLE WE HAD ON THE GROUND IN CHINA SHOULD BE ABLE TO GO INTO DETERMINE FOR THEMSELVES HOW DANGEROUS THIS WAS. HE DID NOT EVEN ASKED TO DO THAT. HE TOLD US WHAT A GREAT JOB HE WAS DOING AND DECIDED THAT WE OWE THEM A DEBT OF GRATITUDE FOR BEING SO TRANSPARENT WITH US. AND WHAT DID HE DO THEN? HE WAITED AND WAITED AND STILL DOESN'T HAVE A PLAN. BACK IN MARCH I KNEW EXACTLY WHAT WE SHOULD BE DOING AND I LAID OUT AGAIN IN JULY WHAT WE SHOULD BE DOING. WE SHOULD BE PROVIDING ALL OF THE PROTECTIVE GEAR. WE SHOULD BE PROVIDING THE MONEY OF THE HOUSE HAS PASSED IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO GO OUT AND GET PEOPLE THE HELP THEY NEED TO KEEP THEIR BUSINESS IS OPEN, OPENING SCHOOLS COST A LOT OF MONEY. YOU SHOULD GET OUT OF YOUR BUNKER AND A SAND TRAP AND YOUR GOLF COURSE AND GO TO THE OVAL OFFICE AND BRING TOGETHER THE DEMOCRACY INTO REPUBLICANS AND FUND WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE NOW TO SAVE LIVES. MODERATOR: YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES, SIR. TRUMP: IF WE WOULD HAVE LISTENED TO YOU, THE COUNTRY WOULD HAVE LEFT OPEN, MILLIONS WOULD HAVE DIED, NOT A 200,000, AND ONE PERSON IS TOO MUCH. IT'S CHINA'S FAULT. THEY STOPPED IT FROM GOING BUT IT WAS THEIR FAULT. BY THE WAY WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT NUMBERS, YOU DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE DIED IN CHINA OR RUSSIA. YOU DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE DIED IN INDIA. THEY DON'T GIVE A STRAIGHT COUNT, JUST SO YOU UNDERSTAND. IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT I'VE DONE, I CLOSED IT AND YOU SAY HE'S XENOPHOBIC ANTIRACIST BECAUSE YOU DON'T AGREE -- YOU DON'T THINK WE SHOULD HAVE CLOSED THE COUNTRY BECAUSE YOU THOUGHT THAT IT WAS TERRIBLE, YOU WOULDN'T HAVE CLOSED IT FOR ANOTHER TWO MONTHS. BY MY DOING IT EARLIER, IN FACT, FAUCI SAID I SAVED THOUSANDS OF LIVES. WE WORKED WITH THE GOVERNOR. GO TAKE A LOOK. IF THE GOVERNORS THAT I DID A PHENOMENAL JOB. MOST OF THEM SAID THAT. IN FACT, PEOPLE THAT WOULDN'T BE NECESSARILY ON MY SIDE DECIDED THAT. PRESIDENT TRUMPETED A PHENOMENAL JOB. WE DID. WE GOT THE GALLONS INTO VENTILATORS AND MASKS AND NOW WE ARE WEEKS AWAY FROM A VACCINE AND WE ARE DOING THERAPEUTICS. FEWER PEOPLE ARE DYING WHEN THEY GET SICK GIVING IT FAR FEWER PEOPLE ARE DYING. WE'VE DONE A GREAT JOB. THE ONLY THING I HAVEN'T DONE A GREAT JOB BECAUSE OF THE FAKE NEWS, NO MATTER WHAT YOU SAY THEY GIVE YOU BAD PRESS. THEY GIVE YOU A GOOD PRESS AND ME BAD PRESS BECAUSE THAT'S THE WAY IT IS UNFORTUNATELY. BUT I WILL TELL YOU YOU NEVER COULD HAVE DONE THE JOB THAT WE DID. YOU DON'T HAVE IT IN YOUR BLOOD. YOU NEVER COULD HAVE DONE THE JOB. BIDEN: I KNOW HOW TO DO THE JOB. TRUMP: YOU DIDN'T DO VERY WELL WITH H1N1. YOU WERE A DISASTER. BIDEN: 14,000 PEOPLE DIED, MOUTH 200,000. MODERATOR: YOU MADE A POINT -- BIDEN: WAITED IN THE SHUTDOWN THE ECONOMY. THIS IS HIS ECONOMY THAT HE HAS A SHUTDOWN. THE REASON IT IS A SHUTDOWN'S LOOK, AT HOME HOW MANY OF YOU GOT UP THIS MORNING AND HAD AN EMPTY CHAIR AT THE KITCHEN TABLE BECAUSE SOMEONE DIED OF COVID? HOW MANY WERE IN A SITUATION WHERE YOU LOST YOUR MOM OR DAD OR COULDN'T EVEN SPEAK TO THEM AND HAD A NURSE HOLDING THE PHONE SO YOU COULD IN FACT TO SAY GOODBYE? BY THE WAY, HIS OWN CDC DIRECTOR SAYS WE COULD LOSE AS MANY AS ANOTHER 200,000 PEOPLE BETWEEN NOW AND THE END-OF-THE-YEAR AND HE SAID IF WE JUST WEAR A MASK, WE CAN SAVE HALF THOSE NUMBERS. JUST THE MASKS. BY THE WAY, IN TERMS OF THE WHOLE NOTION OF THE VACCINE, WE ARE FOR THE VACCINE BUT I DON'T TRUST HIM AT ALL, NOR DO YOU. WHAT WE TRUST IS THE SCIENTISTS. MODERATOR: GENTLEMEN, LET ME MOVE ON TO QUESTIONS ABOUT THE FUTURE. BECAUSE YOU BOTH HAVE TOUCHED ON TWO OF THE QUESTIONS I'M GOING TO ASK. FOCUSING ON THE FUTURE, FOR PRESIDENT TRUMP, YOU HAVE REPEATEDLY EITHER CONTRADICTED OR BEEN AT ODDS WITH SOME OF YOUR GOVERNMENT'S OWN TOP SCIENTISTS. THE WEEK BEFORE LAST, THE HEAD OF THE CENTER FOR DISEASE CONTROL DOCTOR REDFIELD SAID IT WOULD BE SUMMER BEFORE THE VACCINE WOULD BECOME GENERALLY AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC. YOU SAID THAT HE WAS CONFUSED AND MISTAKEN. OF THOSE WERE YOUR TWO WORDS. BUT, THE HEAD OF YOUR OBSERVATION WARP SPEED SAID EXACTLY THE SAME THING. ARE THEY BOTH WRONG? TRUMP: I'VE SPOKEN TO THE COMPANIES AND WE COULD HAVE IT A LOT SOONER. PEOPLE LIKE THIS WOULD RATHER MAKE IT POLITICAL VAN SAVE LIVES. IT'S A VERY POLITICAL THING. I'VE SPOKEN TO PFIZER AND ALL OF THE PEOPLE THAT YOU HAVE TO SPEAK TO. WE HAVE JOHNSON & JOHNSON AND OTHERS. IF THEY CAN GO FASTER THAN THAT BY A LOT. BECOME VERY POLITICAL, BECAUSE THE LEFT, OR I DON'T KNOW IF I WOULD CALL THEM LEFT -- MODERATOR: THE HEAD OF YOUR OBSERVATION WARP SPEED -- TRUMP: HE SAID IT COULD BE THAT BUT IT COULD BE SOONER. I HAD HIM IN THE OFFICE -- MODERATOR: HE TALKED ABOUT THE SUMMER BEFORE IT IS GENERALLY AVAILABLE. TRUMP: THE POSSIBILITY THAT WE WOULD HAVE THE ANSWER BEFORE NOVEMBER 1ST. WE ARE GOING TO DELIVER IT RIGHT AWAY. WE HAVE THE MILITARY SET UP. LOGISTICALLY THEY ARE SET UP. THE MILITARY DELIVERS SOLDIERS AND THEY CAN DO 200,000 A DAY. BIDEN: THIS IS THE SAME MAN THAT SAID BY EASTER THIS WOULD BE GONE AWAY. BY THE WARM WEATHER IT WOULD BE GONE LIKE A MIRACLE. MAYBE YOU CAN INJECT BLEACH INTO YOUR ARM AND THAT WOULD TAKE CARE OF IT. TRUMP: THAT WAS SAID SARCASTICALLY. BIDEN: THIS MAN IS TALKING ABOUT A VACCINE. EVERY SERIOUS COMPANY IS TALKING ABOUT MAYBE HAVING A VACCINE DONE BY THE END-OF-THE-YEAR COME UP WITH THE DISTRIBUTION OF THE VACCINE WILL NOT OCCUR UNTIL SOMETIME BEGINNING IN THE MIDDLE OF NEXT YEAR TO GET IT OUT. IF WE GET THE VACCINE. AND PRAY GOD WE WILL. MODERATOR: MR. VICE PRESIDENT, I WENT TO PICK UP ON THAT QUESTION THOUGH. YOU SAID THE PUBLIC INTEREST FOR SCIENTISTS BUT THEY CAN'T TRUST PRESIDENT TRUMP. IN FACT YOU SAID THAT AGAIN TONIGHT. YOUR RUNNING MATE SENATOR HARRIS SAYS THE EXPERTS, QUOTE, WILL BE MUZZLED AND SUPPRESSED GIVEN THE FACT THE POLLS ALREADY SHOW PEOPLE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE VACCINE AND RELUCTANT TO TAKE IT. ARE YOU AND YOUR RUNNING MATE, SENATOR HARRIS, CONTRIBUTING TO THAT FEAR COLLECTS. BIDEN: NO MORE THAN THE QUESTION YOU ASKED. YOU POINTED OUT HE PUTS PRESSURE INTO DISAGREES WITH HIS OWN SCIENTISTS. MODERATOR: BUT SENATOR HARRIS IS SAYING YOU CAN'T TRUST THE SCIENTISTS. BIDEN: SHE DIDN'T SAY THAT. MODERATOR: SHE SAID, QUOTE, THEY WILL BE MUZZLED -- BIDEN: THAT'S WHAT HE IS GOING TO TRY TO DO. BUT THERE ARE THOUSANDS OF SCIENTISTS OUT THERE LIKE THIS GREAT HOSPITAL THAT DON'T WORK FOR HIM. THEIR JOB DOESN'T DEPEND ON HIM. THEY ARE THE PEOPLE, BY THE WAY -- TRUMP: SPOKE TO THE SCIENTISTS IN CHARGE. THEY WILL HAVE THE VACCINE VERY SOON. BIDEN: IF YOU BELIEVE FOR A MOMENT WHAT HE IS TELLING YOU AND ALL OF THE LIES THAT HE HAS TOLD YOU ABOUT THE ISSUE RELATING TO COVID, HE STILL HASN'T EVEN ACKNOWLEDGED THAT HE KNEW THIS WAS HAPPENING. HE KNEW HOW DANGEROUS IT WAS GOING TO BE BACK IN FEBRUARY, AND HE DIDN'T EVEN TELL YOU. HE'S ON RECORD AS SAYING IT. HE PANICKED OR HE JUST LOOKED AT THE STOCK MARKET, ONE OF THE TWO. BECAUSE GUESS WHAT, A LOT OF PEOPLE DIED, AND A LOT MORE ARE GOING TO UNLESS HE GETS SMARTER QUICKER. MODERATOR: MR. PRESIDENT -- TRUMP: YOU SAID YOU WENT TO DELAWARE STATE BUT YOU FORGOT THE NAME OF YOUR COLLEGE. YOU GRADUATED EVEN THE LOWEST OR ALMOST TO THE LOWEST IN YOUR CLASS. DON'T USE THE WORD SMART WITH ME. BIDEN: GIVE ME A BREAK. TRUMP: THERE'S NOTHING SMART ABOUT YOU. FORTY-SEVEN YEARS, YOU HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING. LET ME SAY SOMETHING, IF YOU WOULD HAVE HAD THE CHARGE OF WHAT I WAS PUT THROUGH. I HAD TO CLOSE THE GREATEST ECONOMY IN THE HISTORY OF THE COUNTRY AND BY THE WAY NOW IT IS BEING BUILT AGAIN -- MODERATOR: WE WILL TALK ABOUT THE ECONOMY IN THE NEXT SEGMENT. WHEN IT COMES TO HOW THE VIRUS HAS BEEN HANDLED SO FAR, THE TWO OF YOU HAVE TAKEN VERY DIFFERENT APPROACHES AND THIS IS GOING TO AFFECT HOW THE VIRUS IS HANDLED GOING FORWARD BY WHICHEVER TO VIEW ENDS UP BECOMING THE NEXT PRESIDENT. I WANT TO QUICKLY GO THROUGH SEVERAL OF THOSE. THREE OPENINGS. VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN, YOU'VE BEEN MORE RELUCTANT FAN PRESIDENT TRUMP ABOUT REOPENING OF THE ECONOMY IN SCHOOLS. WHY COLLECTS. BIDEN: HE DOESN'T HAVE A PLAN. IF I WERE RUNNING I WOULD'VE KNOW THE PLAN. YOU'VE GOT TO PROVIDE BUSINESSES THE ABILITY TO HAVE THE MONEY TO REOPEN WITH THE PPE AS WELL AS THE SANITATION. YOU HAVE TO PROVIDE THAT -- WILL YOU JUST SHUSH FOR A MINUTE. NANCY PELOSI AND CHUCK SCHUMER, THEY HAVE A PLAN. HE WON'T EVEN MEET WITH THEM. THE REPUBLICANS WON'T MEET WITH THE SENATE, AND HE SITS AT HIS GOLF COURSE. LITERALLY, THINK ABOUT IT -- MODERATOR: WHAT ABOUT THE QUESTION OF REOPENING? TRUMP: HE WANTS TO SHUTDOWN THE SHUT DOWN THECOUNTRY AND I WANTT OPEN. LET ME SHUT YOU DOWN FOR A SECOND, FOR JUST ONE SECOND. HE WANTS TO SHUT DOWN THE COUNTRY. WE JUST WENT THROUGH IT. WE HAD TO BECAUSE WE DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE DISEASE. NOW WE FIND THAT ELDERLY PEOPLE WITH HEART PROBLEMS AND DIABETES INTO DIFFERENT PROBLEMS ARE VERY VULNERABLE. WE LEARNED A LOT. YOUNGER CHILDREN ARE NOT. EVEN YOUNGER PEOPLE AREN'T. BUT HE WANTS TO SHUT IT DOWN. MORE PEOPLE WILL BE HURT BY CONTINUING. IF YOU LOOK AT PENNSYLVANIA AND A LOOK AT CERTAIN STATES THAT HAVE BEEN SHUT DOWN, THEY HAVE DEMOCRAT GOVERNORS. ONE OF THE REASONS THEY SHUT DOWN IS BECAUSE THEY WANT TO WAIT UNTIL AFTER THE ELECTION -- MODERATOR: I WANT TO MOVE ON TO ANOTHER SUBJECT. MODERATOR: YOU'VE BEGUN TO INCREASINGLY QUESTION THE MASKS AND THE DISEASE PREVENTER. YOU CITED THE ISSUE OF WAITRESSES AND WAITERS TOUCHING THEIR MASKS INTO TOUCHING PLATES. ARE YOU QUESTIONING -- TRUMP: I HAVE A MASK RIGHT HERE. I WILL PUT IT ON WHEN I THINK I NEED IT. AS AN EXAMPLE TONIGHT EVERYBODY HAS HAD A TEST AND SOCIAL DISTANCING AND ALL THE THINGS YOU HAVE TO. BUT I WEAR THEM WHEN NEEDED. I DON'T WEAR ONE LIKE HIM. EVERY SIGN YOU SEE HIM HE IS WEARING ONE HE COULD BE SPEAKING 200 FEET AWAY AND IT SHOWS UP SH THE BIGGEST MASK I'VE EVER SEEN. MODERATOR: VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN, GO AHEAD, SIR. BIDEN: THE WAY TO OPEN BUSINESSES IS TO GIVE THEM THE WHEREWITHAL TO OPEN. WE'VE PROVIDED MONEY -- MODERATOR: I WAS ASKING ABOUT MASKS. BIDEN: HIS OWN HEAD OF THE CDC IS THAT IF WE WERE ONE BETWEEN NOW, IF EVERY ONE OF MORE MONEY AT A SOCIAL DISTANCE BETWEEN NOW INTO JANUARY WE WOULD SAVE UP TO 100,000 LIVES. IT MATTERS. TRUMP: AND THEY'VE ALSO SAID THAT THE OPPOSITE. BIDEN: NO SERIOUS PERSON SAID THE OPPOSITE. TRUMP: DOCTOR FAUCI. THEN HE CHANGED HIS MIND. MODERATOR: I WANT TO ASK ABOUT ALASKA SUBJECT BECAUSE YOUR DIFFERENT APPROACH AFFECTED THE WAY THAT YOU HAVE CAMPAIGNED. PRESIDENT TRUMP, YOU ARE HOLDING LARGE RALLIES WITH THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE -- TRUMP: OUTSIDE. MODERATOR: VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN, YOU ARE HOLDING MUCH SMALLER EVENTS -- TRUMP: NOBODY WILL SHOW UP. NOBODY SHOWS UP TO HIS RALLIES. MODERATOR: IN ANY CASE, WHY ARE YOU HOLDING THE BIGGER RALLIES AND YOU ARE NOT. YOU GO AHEAD, SIR. TRUMP: BECAUSE PEOPLE WANT TO HEAR WHAT I HAVE TO SAY. TWENTY-FIVE, 30,000 PEOPLE SHOW UP AT AIRPORTS -- SO FAR WE HAVE HAD NO PROBLEM WHATSOEVER. IT'S OUTSIDE OF THAT'S THE BIG G DIFFERENCE ACCORDING TO THE EXPERTS. WE DO THEM OUTSIDE AND WE HAVE TREMENDOUS CROWDS. LITERALLY IN 24 HOURS NOTICE AND SHOW DOES THE CIRCLE AND HAS CIRCLES SOME PLACES. BIDEN: A REPORTER CAME UP TO HIM TO ASK A QUESTION AND SAID NO, NO, PUT ON YOUR MASK. HAVE YOU BEEN TESTED? HE IS NOT WORRIED ABOUT THE PEOPLE OUT THERE. MODERATOR: I WANT TO MOVE ONTO THE NEXT -- TRUMP: BIDEN: HE'S BEEN TOTALLY IRRESPONSIBLE THE WAY THAT HE HAS HANDLED THE SOCIAL DISTANCING AND PEOPLE WEARING MASKS. BASICALLY ENCOURAGING THEM NOT TO. AND HE IS A FOOL ON THAT. MODERATOR: TRUMP: IF YOU COULD HAVE GOTTEN THE PRESS YOU WOULD HAVE DONE THE SAME -- MODERATOR: COULD WE MOVE ONTO THE ECONOMY. IF THE ECONOMY IS I THINK IT IS FAIR TO SAY RECOVERING FASTER THAN EXPECTED FROM THE SHUTDOWN IN THE SECOND QUARTER. THE UNEMPLOYMENT RATE FELL TO 8.4% LAST MONTH. THE FEDERAL RESERVE SAYS THE HIT TO GROW WHICH IS GOING TO BE THERE ISN'T GOING TO BE NEARLY AS BIG AS THEY HAD EXPECTED. PRESIDENT TRUMP, YOU SAY THAT WE ARE IN A V-SHAPED RECOVERY AND VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN, YOU SAY THAT IT'S MORE OF A K-SHAPE. WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES THAT MEAN TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE IN TERMS OF THE ECONOMY? PRESIDENT TRUMP, YOU GO FIRST. TRUMP: WHEEDLED THE GREATEST ECONOMY AND CLOSED IT DOWN WHEN THE PLAGUE CAME AND WE CLOSED IT DOWN WHICH WAS VERY HARD PSYCHOLOGICALLY TO DO. HE DIDN'T THINK WE SHOULD CLOSE IT DOWN AND HE WAS WRONG. 2 MILLION PEOPLE WOULD BE DEAD NOW INSTEAD OF, STILL, 204,000. ONE PERSON IS TOO MUCH. IT SHOULD HAVE NEVER HAPPENED FROM CHINA. WHAT HAPPENED AS WE CLOSED IT DOWN AND NOW WE ARE REOPENING AND WE ARE DOING RECORD BUSINESS. WE HAD A 10.4 MILLION PEOPLE IN A FOUR-MONTH PERIOD THAT WE PUT BACK INTO THE WORKFORCE. THAT IS A RECORD OF THE LIKES OF WHICH NOBODY HAS SEEN BEFORE AND HE WANTS TO CLOSE DOWN. HE WILL SHUT IT DOWN AGAIN. HE WILL DESTROY THIS COUNTRY. A LOT OF PEOPLE BETWEEN DRUGS AND ALCOHOL AND DEPRESSION -- WHEN YOU START SHUTTING IT DOWN, YOU TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT IS HAPPENING WITH SOME OF YOUR DEMOCRATIC RUN STATES WITH THESE TOUGH SHUTDOWNS AND I'M TELLING YOU IT'S BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO OPEN. ONE OF THEM CAME OUT LAST WEEK -- YOU SOLVE OUT. WE ARE GOING TO OPEN NOVEMBER 9TH. BECAUSE IT IS AFTER THE ELECTION. THEY THINK THEY ARE HURTING US BY KEEPING THEM CLOSED. IF THEY ARE HURTING PEOPLE. THEY KNOW WHAT TO DO, THEY CAN SOCIAL DISTANCE, WASH THEIR HANDS, WEAR A MASK, DO WHATEVER THEY WANT BUT THEY'VE GOT TO OPEN THEIR STATES UP. WHEN YOU LOOK AT NORTH CAROLINA AND THESE GOVERNORS UNDER SIEGE. PENNSYLVANIA, MICHIGAN AND A COUPLE OF OTHERS, OPEN THESE STATES UP. IT'S NOT FAIR. YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT ALMOST LIKE BEING IN PRISON. AND YOU LOOK AT WHAT IS GOING ON WITH DIVORCE AND ALCOHOLISM AND DRUGS. IT'S A VERY SAD THING. AND HE WILL CLOSE DOWN THE WHOLE COUNTRY. AND DESTROY OUR COUNTRY. OUR COUNTRY IS COMING BACK INCREDIBLY WELL, SETTING RECORDS AS IT DOES. WE DON'T NEED SOMEBODY TO COME IN AND SAY LET'S SHUT IT DOWN. MODERATOR: ALL RIGHT. WE WILL NOW MOVE TO YOU. AS I SAID, POSING THE QUESTION THE PRESIDENT SAYS THAT IT IS A V-SHAPED RECOVERY AND YOU SAY THAT IT'S A K-SHAPE RECOVERY. BIDEN: THE DIFFERENCE IS MILLIONAIRES AND BILLIONAIRES LIKE HIM IN THE MIDDLE OF A COVID CRISIS THEY'VE DONE VERY WELL. REALLY ENTERS HAVE MADE ANOTHER $300 BILLION BECAUSE OF HIS TAX PROPOSAL AND FOCUSING ON THE MARKET. BUT YOU FOLKS AT HOME LIVING IN SCRANTON AND ALL THESE SMALL TOWNS AND WORKING CLASS TOWNS, HOW ARE YOU DOING? HE PAID A TOTAL OF $750 -- TRUMP: YOU HAVE AGREED TO THE TWO MINUTES -- BIDEN: THE FACT IS HE'S WORKED ON THIS IN A WAY THAT HE WILL BE THE FIRST PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES TO LEAVE OFFICE HAVING FEWER JOBS IN HIS ADMINISTRATION THEN WHEN HE BECAME PRESIDENT. FEWER JOBS THAN WHEN HE BECAME. FIRST IN AMERICAN HISTORY. SECONDLY, THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE LOST THEIR JOBS ARE THOSE PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN ON THE FRONT LINES. THOSE PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN SAVING OUR LIVES. THOSE PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN OUT THERE DYING. PEOPLE WHO'VE BEEN PUTTING THEMSELVES IN THE WAY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE COULD ALL TRY TO MAKE IT. THE IDEA THAT HE IS INSISTING THAT WE GO FORWARD AND OPEN WHEN YOU HAVE ALMOST HALF THE STATES IN AMERICA WITH A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN COVID DEATHS AND CASES IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND HE WANTS TO OPEN IT MORE. WHY DOESN'T HE TAKE CARE OF THE AMERICA -- YOU CAN'T FIX THE ECONOMY UNTIL YOU FIX THE COVID CRISIS. AND HE HAS NO INTENTION OF DOING ANYTHING ABOUT MAKING IT BETTER FOR YOU ALL AT HOME IN TERMS OF YOUR HEALTH AND SAFETY. SCHOOLS, WHY ARE SCHOOLS OPEN? BECAUSE IT COSTS A LOT OF MONEY TO OPEN THEM SAFELY. THEY WERE GOING TO GIVE, HIS ADMINISTRATION GIVE THE SCHOOLS AND TEACHERS MASKS AND THEN THEY DECIDED THEY COULDN'T DO THAT BECAUSE IT ISN'T A NATIONAL EMERGENCY. NOT A NATIONAL EMERGENCY. THEY'VE NOTHING TO HELP THE BUSINESSES. THEY ARE CLOSING, ONE SIXTH IS NOW GONE. HE OUGHT TO GET ON THE JOB AND TAKE CARE OVER THE NEEDS OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE SO WE CAN OPEN SAFELY. MODERATOR: YOUR TIME IS UP, SIR. TRUMP: I WOULD LIKE TO RESPOND. MODERATOR: YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES, SIR. TRUMP: PEOPLE WANT THEIR SCHOOLS OPEN. THEY DON'T WANT TO BE SHUT DOWN. THEY DON'T WANT THEIR STATES SHUTDOWN. I LOOK AT THE NEW YORK AND IT'S SO SAD WHAT'S HAPPENING IN NEW YORK. IT'S ALMOST LIKE A GHOST TOWN AND I'M NOT SURE THAT IT CAN RECOVER. PEOPLE WANT TO THEIR PLACES OPEN. THEY WANT TO GET BACK TO THEIR LIVES. THEY WILL BE CAREFUL, BUT THEY WANT THEIR SCHOOLS OPEN B6. BIDEN: I -- TRUMP: IT WAS ME AND I'M HAPPY TO DO IT. PEOPLE OF OHIO ARE HAPPY -- MODERATOR: WE WILL GET TO THE ECONOMIC PLANS GOING FORWARD ABOUT FIRST, MR. PRESIDENT, AS YOU KNOW THERE'S A NEW REPORT THAT IN 2016, THE YEAR THAT YOU WERE ELECTED AND IN 2017, YOUR FIRST YEAR, THAT YOU PAID $750 A YEAR IN FEDERAL INCOME TAX EACH OF THOSE YEARS. I KNOW THAT YOU PAY A LOT OF OTHER TAXES, BUT I'M ASKING THE SPECIFIC QUESTION IS IT TRUE THAT YOU PAID $750 IN FEDERAL INCOME TAXES IN EACH OF THOSE TWO YEARS? TRUMP: I PAID MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN TAXES. MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN INCOME TAX AND LET ME TELL YOU THERE WAS A STORY IN ONE OF THE PAPERS, I HIT $38,000,000.1 YEAR. I PAID 27 -- BIDEN: SHOW US YOUR TAX RETURNS. TRUMP: YOU WILL SEE IT AS SOON AS IT IS FINISHED. GO TO THE BOARD OF ELECTIONS. IT SHOWS EVERY BANK THAT I HAVE, I AM TOTALLY UNDER LEVERAGED BECAUSE THE ASSETS ARE EXTREMELY GOOD AND WE HAVE -- MODERATOR: I'M ASKING A SPECIFIC QUESTION. I UNDERSTAND ALL THAT, BUT I'M ASKING -- KNOW, MR. PRESIDENT, I'M ASKING THE QUESTION WILL YOU TELL US HOW MUCH YOU PAID IN FEDERAL INCOME TAXES IN 2016 AND 2017? TRUMP: MILLIONS OF DOLLARS. MODERATOR: SONATA 750? TRUMP: AND YOU WILL GET TO SEE IT. LET ME JUST TELL YOU SOMETHING. IT WAS THE TAX LAWS. I DON'T WANT -- BEFORE I CAME HERE, I WAS A PRIVATE DEVELOPER. LIKE EVERY OTHER PRIVATE PERSON, UNLESS THEY ARE STUPID, THEY GO THROUGH THE LAWS AND THAT'S WHAT IT IS. HE PASSED A TAX BILL THAT GAVE US ALL THESE PRIVILEGES FOR DEPRECIATION AND FOR TAX CREDITS. WE BUILD A BUILDING AND GET TAX CREDITS LIKE THE HOTEL ON PENNSYLVANIA AVENUE, WHICH BY THE WAY, IT WAS GIVEN TO ME BY THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION IF YOU CAN BELIEVE THAT. MODERATOR: VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN, DO YOU WANT TO RESPOND. BIDEN: THE TAX CODE THAT MADE HIM, PUT HIM IN THE POSITION HE PAYS LESS TAX THAN A SCHOOLTEACHER, ON THE MONEY A SCHOOLTEACHER MAKES IS BECAUSE HE SAID HE'S SMART BECAUSE HE CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE TAX CODE, AND HE DOES TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE TAX CODE. THAT'S WHY I'M GOING TO ELIMINATE THE TRUMP TAX CUTS AND MAKE SURE THAT WE INVEST IN THE PEOPLE WHO IN FACT NEED THE HELP. PEOPLE OUT THERE NEED HELP. [INAUDIBLE] TRUMP: YOU WERE A SENATOR -- LET ME JUST TELL YOU, JOE, I'VE DONE MORE IN 47 MONTHS THEN YOU HAVE DONE IN 47 YEARS, JOE. WE'VE DONE THINGS YOU'VE NEVER EVEN THOUGHT OF INCLUDING FIXING THE BROKEN MILITARY THAT YOU GAVE ME AND TAKING CARE OF THAT FOR -- MODERATOR: WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE ECONOMY. I'D LIKE TO ASK ABOUT YOUR PLANS GOING FORWARD, BECAUSE MR. VICE PRESIDENT, YOUR ECONOMIC PLAN IF YOU WERE TO BE ELECTED, FOCUSES A LOT ON BIG GOVERNMENT, BIG TAXES AND BIG SPENDING. I WANT TO FOCUS FIRST ON THE TAXES. YOU PROPOSED MORE THAN $4 TRILLION OVER A DECADE IN NEW TAXES ON INDIVIDUALS MAKING MORE THAN $400,000 A YEAR AND ON CORPORATIONS. PRESIDENT TRUMP SAYS THAT KIND OF INCREASE IN TAXES IS GOING TO HURT THE ECONOMY AS IT IS JUST COMING OUT OF A RECESSION. BIDEN: TAKE A LOOK AT THE ANALYSIS BY THE WALL STREET FIRMS. IT POINTS OUT THAT MY ECONOMIC PLAN WOULD CREATE 7 MILLION MORE JOBS THAN HIS, NUMBER ONE. AND NUMBER TWO, IT WOULD CREATE AN ADDITIONAL $1 TRILLION OF ECONOMIC GROWTH BECAUSE IT WOULD BE ABOUT BUYING AMERICANS, THAT WE ARE GOING TO MAKE THIS -- WE SPENT 600 BILLION EVERY YEAR ON THINGS FROM SHIPS TO STEAL TWO BUILDINGS AND THE LIKE. UNDER MY PROPOSAL, WE ARE GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERY PENNY OF THAT HAS TO BE MADE BY A COMPANY -- MODERATOR: I'M TALKING ABOUT TAXES, NOT SPENDING. BIDEN: I WILL ELIMINATE A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF TAXES. AT THE CORPORATE TAX WILL BE 28%, IT SHOULDN'T BE 21%. YOU HAVE 91 COMPANIES IN THE FORTUNE 500 WHO DON'T PAY A SINGLE PENNY IN TAXES MAKING BILLIONS -- TRUMP: YOU IN FACT PAST THAT. [INAUDIBLE] MODERATOR: MR. PRESIDENT, LET ME PICK UP ON THAT. YOU WOULD CONTINUE YOUR FREE MARKET APPROACH, LOWER TAXES, MORE OF THE REGULATIONS B6. BIDEN: NOT ON THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. MODERATOR: BUT YOU TALK ABOUT THE ECONOMY BOOMING. IT TURNS OUT THAT IN OBAMA'S FINAL THREE YEARS OF PRESIDENT, MORE JOBS WERE CREATED. 1.5 MILLION JOBS THAN IN THE FIRST THREE YEARS OF YOUR PRESIDENCY. TRUMP: THEY HAD AT THE SLOWEST RECOVERY SINCE THE ECONOMIC RECOVERY SINCE 1929. IT WAS THE SLOWEST RECOVERY. ALSO, THEY TOOK OVER SOMETHING THAT WAS DOWN. ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS TURN ON THE LIGHTS. BUT THEY HAD THE SLOWEST ECONOMIC RECOVERY SINCE 1929. LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT THE STOCK MARKET. WHEN IT GOES UP, IT ALSO MEANS JOBS AND 401(K). IF YOU WANT TO TERMINATE MY TAXES I TELL YOU WHAT, YOU WILL LOSE HALF OF THE COMPANIES THAT ARE POURED IN HERE THEY WILL LEAVE AND COMPANIES ALREADY HERE WILL LEAVE FOR OTHER PLACES. THEY WILL LEAVE AND YOU WILL HAVE A DEPRESSION THE LIKES OF WHICH YOU'VE NEVER SEEN. BIDEN: THE WORST RECESSION SHORT OF A DEPRESSION AND HISTORY. I WAS ASKED TO BRING IT BACK. WE HAD AN ECONOMIC RECOVERY THAT CREATED THE JOBS YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. WE HANDED HIM A BOOMING ECONOMY AND HE BLEW IT. TRUMP: IT WASN'T BOOMING. IT WAS THE WEAKEST RECOVERY -- MODERATOR: IS IT FAIR TO SAY HE BLEW IT WHEN THERE WAS RECORD LOW UNEMPLOYMENT BEFORE COVID? BIDEN: WHAT HE DID EVEN BEFORE COVID, MANUFACTURING WENT IN THE WHOLE. NUMBER TWO, NUMBER THREE -- TRUMP: NO, YOU WERE ON NUMBER TWO. BIDEN: THEY SAID THAT IT WOULD TAKE A MIRACLE TO BRING BACK MANUFACTURING. I BROUGHT BACK. TRUMP: THEY GAVE UP ON MANUFACTURING. BIDEN: I WAS ASKED TO BRING BACK CHRYSLER AND GENERAL MOTORS. RIGHT HERE IN OHIO AND MICHIGAN. HE BLEW IT. THEY ARE GONE. TRUMP: OHIO HAD THE BEST YEAR IT'S EVER HAD. MICHIGAN HAD THE BEST YEAR THEY'VE EVER HAD. BIDEN: THAT ISN'T TRUE. TRUMP: THEY WENT TO MICHIGAN AND OHIO. MODERATOR: MR. VICE PRESIDENT. BIDEN: TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT HE'S ACTUALLY DONE. HE'S DONE VERY LITTLE. HIS TRADE DEALS ARE THE SAME WAY. HE TALKS ABOUT THESE TRADE DEALS AND HE TALKS ABOUT THE ART OF THE DEAL. CHINA PERFECTED THE ART OF THE DEAL. WE HAVE A HIGHER DEFICIT THE FAMILY DID BEFORE. WE ARE THE HIGHEST TRADE DEFICIT -- TRUMP: AND CHINA AID YOUR LUNCH. YOUR SON TAKES OUT BILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO MANAGE, MAKES MIX MI, AND ALSO WHILE YOU'RE AT IT, JUST OUT OF CURIOSITY, THE MAYOR OF MOSCOW'S WIFE GAVE YOUR SON $3.5 MILLION. WHAT DID HE DO TO DESERVE THAT? WHAT DID HE DO WITH -- BIDEN: NONE OF THAT IS TRUE. TOTALLY DISCREDITED. MODERATOR: IT'S AN OPEN DISCUSSION. [INAUDIBLE] TRUMP: WITH NO EXPERIENCE IN ENERGY. BIDEN: MY SON DID NOTHING WRONG AT BURISMA. MODERATOR: MR. PRESIDENT, LET HIM ANSWER. BIDEN: HE DOESN'T WANT TO LET ME ANSWER BECAUSE HE KNOWS I HAVE THE TRUTH. THE POSITION HAS BEEN TOTALLY, THOROUGHLY DISCREDITED. BY THE MEDIA, BY OUR ALLIES, THE WORLD BANK, BY EVERYONE. IT'S DISCREDITED. MATTER OF FACT -- TRUMP: $3.5 MILLION FROM MOSCOW. BIDEN: HE TESTIFIED UNDER OATH AND SAID I DID MY JOB AND I DID IT VERY WELL. TRUMP: I WILL GIVE YOU THE LIST OF PEOPLE -- BIDEN: YOU'VE ALREADY FIRED MOST OF THEM BECAUSE THEY DID THEIR JOBS. MODERATOR: YOU GET THE FINAL WORD. BIDEN: IT'S HARD TO GET ANY WORD IN WITH THIS CLOWN. TRUMP: WHY DID HE DESERVE 3.5 MILLION FROM MOSCOW? BIDEN: HERE'S THE DEAL, WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT FAMILIES AND ETHICS. HIS FAMILY WE GO TO TALK ABOUT ALL NIGHT. [INAUDIBLE] MODERATOR: MR. PRESIDENT -- BIDEN: IT'S NOT ABOUT FAMILY. HE DOESN'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT WHAT YOU NEED, THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. IT'S ABOUT YOU, THAT'S WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT HERE. MODERATOR: THAT IS THE END OF THIS SEGMENT. WE ARE MOVING ON. TRUMP: CAN I BE HONEST -- MODERATOR: NO, SIR [INAUDIBLE] MODERATOR: GENTLEMEN, I HATE TO RAISE MY VOICE BUT WHY SHOULD I BE DIFFERENT THAN THE TWO OF YOU. SO, WE HAVE SIX SEGMENTS. WE ARE GOING TO GO TO THE NEXT. IN THAT SEGMENT YOU WILL EACH HAVE TWO MINUTES UNINTERRUPTED AND IN THOSE TWO MINUTES, MR. PRESIDENT, YOU CAN SAY ANYTHING YOU WANT. I'M GOING TO ASK A QUESTION, BUT IF YOU WANT TO ANSWER ABOUT SOMETHING ELSE, GO AHEAD. BUT I THINK THAT THE COUNTRY WOULD BE BETTER SERVED IF WE ALLOW BOTH PEOPLE TO SPEAK WITH FEWER INTERRUPTIONS. I AM APPEALING TO YOU TO DO THAT. TRUMP: AND HIM ALSO. MODERATOR: FRANKLY YOU'VE BEEN DOING MORE INTERRUPTING. TRUMP: HE DOES PLENTY. MODERATOR: LESS THAN YOU HAVE. LET'S CONTINUE ON. THE ISSUE OF RACE, VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN, YOU SAY THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP'S RESPONSE TO THE VIOLENCE IN CHARLOTTESVILLE THREE YEARS AGO, WHEN HE TALKED ABOUT VERY FINE PEOPLE ON BOTH SIDES WAS WHAT DIRECTLY LED YOU TO LAUNCH THIS RUN FOR PRESIDENT. PRESIDENT TRUMP, YOU'VE OFTEN CITED THAT YOU BELIEVE YOU HAVE DONE MORE FOR BLACK AMERICANS THAN ANY PRESIDENT WITH THE POSSIBLE EXCEPTION OF ABRAHAM LINCOLN. MY QUESTION FOR THE TWO OF YOU IS WHY SHOULD VOTERS TRUST YOU RATHER THAN YOUR OPPONENT TO DEAL WITH THE RACE ISSUES FACING THIS COUNTRY OVER THE NEXT FOUR YEARS? VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN, YOU WILL GO FIRST. BIDEN: EQUITY, EQUALITY. IT'S ABOUT OF DECENCY, THE CONSTITUTION. WE HAVE NEVER WALKED AWAY FROM TRYING TO ACQUIRE EQUITY FOR EVERYONE AND ALL OF AMERICA. BUT WE HAVE NEVER ACCOMPLISHED. WE'VE NEVER WALKED AWAY FROM IT LIKE HE'S DONE. THE REASON I GOT IN THE RACE, CLOSED HER EYES. REMEMBER WHAT THOSE PEOPLE LOOK LIKE COMING OUT WITH THEIR VEINS BULGING AND JUST SPEWING ANTI-SOMATIC BILE ACCOMPANIED BY THE KU KLUX KLAN. A YOUNG WOMAN GOT KILLED AND THE PRESIDENT SAID THEY ARE VERY FINE PEOPLE ON BOTH SIDES. NO PRESIDENT HAS EVER SAID ANYTHING LIKE THAT. THE SECOND POINT I WOULD MAKE IS THAT WHEN GEORGE FLOYD WAS KILLED, THERE WAS A PEACEFUL PROTEST IN FRONT OF THE WHITE HOUSE. WHAT DID HE DO? HE CAME OUT OF HIS BUNKER AND HEAD OF THE MILITARY USED TEARGAS ON THEM SO HE COULD GO TO A CHURCH AND HOLD UP THE BIBLE AND THEN WHAT HAPPENED? THE BISHOP OF THAT VERY CHURCH SAID THAT IT WAS A DISGRACE. THE GENERAL THAT WAS WITH HIM SAID ALL HE EVER WANTS TO DO IS DIVIDE PEOPLE, NOT UNITED PEOPLE AT ALL. THIS IS A PRESIDENT THAT HAS USED EVERYTHING AS A DOG WHISTLE TO TRY TO GENERATE RACIST HATRED, RACIST DIVISION. THIS IS A MAN WHO WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT HELPING AFRICAN-AMERICANS, ONE IN 1,000 AFRICAN-AMERICANS HAS BEEN KILLED BECAUSE OF THE CORONAVIRUS. AND IF HE DOESN'T DO SOMETHING QUICKLY BY THE END-OF-THE-YEAR, ONE IN 500 WILL HAVE BEEN KILLED. ONE IN 500 AFRICAN-AMERICANS. THIS MAN IS THE SAVIOR OF AFRICAN-AMERICANS? THIS MAN CARES AT ALL? THIS MAN HAS DONE VIRTUALLY NOTHING. YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT WHAT HE TALKS ABOUT. YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT WHAT HE DID AND WHAT HE DID HAS BEEN DISASTROUS FOR THE COMMUNITIES. MODERATOR: WHY SHOULD AMERICANS TRUST YOU OVER YOUR OPPONENT? TRUMP: WITH A CRIME BILL, 1994 WHERE YOU CALLED AT THE SUPER PREDATORS, AFRICAN-AMERICANS SUPER PREDATORS, AND THEY'VE NEVER FORGOTTEN IT, JOE. MODERATOR: IT IS HIS TWO MINUTES. TRUMP: SO YOU CALL THEM SUPER PREDATOR AND I'M LETTING PEOPLE OUT OF JAIL. YOU'VE TREATED OF THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN POPULATION COMMUNITY, YOU'VE TREATED THE BLACK COMMUNITY ABOUT AS BAD AS ANYBODY IN THIS COUNTRY. AND THAT'S WHY IF YOU LOOK AT THE POLLS, I AM DOING BETTER THAN ANY REPUBLICAN HAS DONE IN A LONG TIME, BECAUSE THEY SAW WHAT YOU DID. YOU CALL THEM SUPER PREDATORS AND YOU'VE CALLED THEM WORSE THAN THAT BECAUSE YOU LOOK BACK AT YOUR TESTIMONY OVER THE YEARS, YOU'VE CALLED THEM WORSE THAN THAT. AS FAR AS THE CHURCH IS CONCERNED AND OF THE GENERALS ARE CONCERNED, WE GOT THE SUPPORT OF 250 MILITARY LEADERS AND GENITALS, TOTAL SUPPORT. LAW ENFORCEMENT, ALMOST EVERY LAW ENFORCEMENT GROUP IN THE UNITED STATES. I HAVE FLORIDA, I HAVE TEXAS, I HAVE OHIO, I HAVE EVERYBODY. EXCUSE ME, PORTLAND, THE SHERIFF JUST CAME OUT TODAY, AND HE SAID I SUPPORT PRESIDENT TRUMP. I DON'T THINK THAT YOU HAVE ANY LAW ENFORCEMENT. YOU CAN'T EVEN SAY THE WORD LAW ENFORCEMENT BECAUSE IF YOU SAY THOSE WORDS YOU WILL LOSE ALL OF YOUR RADICAL LEFT SUPPORTERS. WE WOULD PUT OUT THAT FIRE IN TN HALF-AN-HOUR BUT THEY WON'T DO IT. IF YOU LOOK AT CHICAGO. THEY HEARD WE WERE COMING IN THE FOLLOWING DAY IN SEATTLE AND THEY PUT UP THEIR HANDS AND WE GOT BACK SEATTLE. MINNEAPOLIS WE GOT IT BACK BECAUSE WE BELIEVE IN LAW AND ORDER BUT YOU DON'T. AT THE TOP TEN CITIES IN JUST ABOUT THE TOP 40 CITIES RUN BY DEMOCRATS AND MANY CASES RADICAL LEFT AND THEY'VE GOT YOU WRAPPED AROUND THEIR FINGER TO THE POINT YOU DON'T WANT TO SAY ANYTHING ABOUT LAW & ORDER. AND I TELL YOU WHAT, THE PEOPLE OF THIS COUNTRY WANT AND DEMAND LAW & ORDER AND YOU ARE AFRAID TO EVEN SAY IT. MODERATOR: I WANT TO RETURN TO THE QUESTION OF RACE. VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN, AFTER THE GRAND JURY IN THE BREONNA TAYLOR CASE DECIDED NOT TO CHARGE WITH HOMICIDE, YOU SAID RACE IS THE QUESTION, QUOTE, WHETHER JUSTICE COULD BE EQUALLY APPLIED IN AMERICA. DO YOU BELIEVE THAT THERE IS A SEPARATE BUT UNEQUAL SYSTEM OF JUSTICE FOR BLACKS IN THIS COUNTRY? BIDEN: THERE IS A SYSTEMIC INJUSTICE IN EDUCATION AND WORK AND LAW ENFORCEMENT. AND THE WAY THAT IT IS ENFORCED. BUT THE VAST MAJORITY OF POLICE OFFICERS ARE GOOD, DECENT HONORABLE MEN AND WOMEN. THEY RISK THEIR LIVES EVERY DAY TO TAKE CARE OF US BUT THERE ARE BAD APPLES. WHEN THEY OCCUR AND FIND THEM THEY HAVE TO BE SORTED OUT AND HELD ACCOUNTABLE. THEY HAVE TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE. AND WHAT I'M GOING TO DO AS PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES IS CALLED TOGETHER AN ENTIRE GROUP OF PEOPLE AT THE WHITE HOUSE, EVERYTHING FROM THE CIVIL RIGHTS GROUPS AND POLICE OFFICERS, THE POLICE CHIEFS AND WE ARE GOING TO WORK THIS OUT. SO, WE CHANGED THE WAY IN WHICH WE HAVE MORE TRANSPARENCY. AND WHEN THESE THINGS HAPPEN. THESE COPS ARE NOT HAPPY TO SEE WHAT HAPPENED TO GEORGE FLOYD ACTIVITIES COPS ARE NOT HAPPY TO SEE WHAT HAPPENED TO BREONNA TAYLOR. MOST DON'T LIKE IT, BUT WE HAVE TO HAVE A SYSTEM WHERE PEOPLE ARE HELD ACCOUNTABLE. AND BY THE WAY, VIOLINS AND RESPONSE IS NEVER APPROPRIATE. PEACEFUL PROTEST IS. VIOLENCE IS NEVER. TRUMP: WHEN THEY RUN THROUGH TOWN, THAT IS NOT PEACEFUL PROTEST -- MODERATOR: I WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE WITH THE ISSUE OF RACE. WE WILL GET TO THE ISSUE OF LAW & ORDER. THIS MONTH, YOUR ADMINISTRATION DIRECTED FEDERAL AGENCIES TO END RACIAL SENSITIVITY TRAINING THAT ADDRESSES WHITE PRIVILEGE OR CRITICAL RACE THEORY. WHY DID YOU DECIDE TO DO THAT, TO END RACIAL SENSITIVITY TRAINING, AND DO YOU BELIEVE THAT THERE IS SYSTEMIC RACISM IN THIS COUNTRY, SIR? .. >>. >>BIDEN: HE IS DOING THAT. HERE IS THE DEAL. >> THE FACT IS THAT THERE IS RACIAL INSENSITIVITY AND PEOPLE HAVE TO BE MADE AWARE OF WHAT OTHER PEOPLE FEEL LIKE AND WHAT INSULTS THEM AND WHAT IS DEMEANING TO THEM. IT IS IMPORTANT THAT PEOPLE KNOW. MANY PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO HURT OTHER PEOPLE'S FEELINGS BUT IT MAKES A GOOD DIFFERENCE IN A GIGANTIC DIFFERENCE FOR A CHILD TO HAVE SELF-ESTEEM LIKE HOW THIS GUY AND HIS VISIT TO SO MANY PEOPLE MOVED OUT THERE KNOWS THAT IRISH CATHOLICS LIKE ME GROWING UP IN SCRANTON LOOKING DOWN ON PEOPLE WHO DON'T HAVE MONEY OR DIFFERENT FAITH OR DIFFERENT COLOR. WE ALL AMERICANS. THE ONLY WAY TO BRING US TOGETHER IS TO BRING EVERYBODY. THERE'S NOTHING WE CANNOT DO IF WE DO IT TOGETHER. WE CAN TAKE IT ON AND THE RACISM. TRUMP: DURING THE OBAMA BIDEN ADMINISTRATION THERE'S TREMENDOUS DIVISION. LOOK AT HATRED FERGUSON, MANY PLACES. LOOK AT OAKLAND. LOOK AT WHAT HAPPENED IN BALTIMORE. FRANKLY IT'S MORE VIOLENT THAN WHAT I AM SEEING NOW. BUT THE REASON THEY DON'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT LAW AND ORDER. BIDEN: I AM IN FAVOR OF LAW. TRUMP: GO AHEAD HOST: LET HIM FINISH. BIDEN: LAW AND ORDER WITH JUSTICE PEOPLE ARE TREATED FAIRLY 1715 PERCENT I WERE DOWN IN OUR ADMINISTRATION HOST: MR. PRESIDENT NOW YOU WILL BE HAPPY BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT WATER IN ORDER. >> WE HAD TROUBLE WITH DEMOCRATIC TWIN CITIES HOST: HOMICIDES AMERICA THIS SUMMER IN PARTICULAR YOU WANT TO BLAME THAT ON DEMOCRATIC MAYORS AND GOVERNORS. BUT THERE HAVE BEEN EQUIVALENT SPIKES OF REPUBLICAN-LED CITIES LIKE TULSA AND FOR WORTH IT WAS AS A PARTY ISSUE? TRUMP: I THINK IT IS A PARTY ISSUE GO TO CHICAGO TO SHOT AND EIGHT DIED. LOOK AT NEW YORK IT IS GOING UP LIKE NOBODY HAS EVER SEEN. 150, 200 PERCENT IT IS CRAZY. HE DOESN'T WANT TO SAY LAW AND ORDER HE CAN'T BECAUSE HE WILL LOSE THE RADICAL LEFT SUPPORTERS THEN IT'S OVER WITH. YOU FORGOT TO IN THE COUNTRY THAT HE WOULD WANT TO RUN IT BY THE WAY THE SUBURBS WOULD BE GONE. BIDEN: YOU KNOW SOME UNLESS YOU TOOK A WRONG TURN SUBURBS OR BY A LARGE INTEGRATED. PEOPLE DRIVING THE KIDS TO SOCCER PRACTICE BLACK AND WHITE AND HISPANIC IN THE SAME CAR AT ANY OTHER TIME IN THE PAST. WHAT IS OEF THAT IS DEALING WITH COVID THEY ARE DYING IN THE SUBURBS THEY ARE BEING FLOODED AND BURNED OUT THAT IS BY THE SUBURBS ARE IN TROUBLE. TRUMP: I DO HOST: I DO WANT TO TALK ABOUT LAW AND ORDER WITH THAT DRIVE RECOMMENDATION COMING FROM THE BIDEN AND 31 - - BERNIE SANDERS TASK FORCE YOU TALK ABOUT IMAGINING PLACING AND WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? AND IF I MIGHT FINISH, DO YOU SUPPORT THE BLACK LIVES MATTER CALL FOR COMMUNITY CONTROL OF POLICING? BIDEN: I SUPPORT THE PLACE HAVING THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO WITH THE PROBLEMS THEY FACE. I'M NOT TOTALLY OPPOSED TO DEFUNDING POLICE OFFICERS. LOCAL POLICE. WE WENT IN HIS BUDGET IS A 400 MILLION-DOLLAR CUT LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT ASSISTANCE. THEY NEED MORE ASSISTANCE WHEN THEY SHOW UP AS 9/11 THEY NEED A PSYCHIATRIST TO KEEP THEM FROM USING FORCE TO TALKING PEOPLE DOWN. WE NEED COMMUNITY POLICING OFFICERS GET TO KNOW PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITIES SO THAT'S WHEN CRIME WENT DOWN. NOT UP, DOWN. TRUMP: IS NOT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, CHRIS HE HAS NO LAW. HE HAS NO LAW ENFORCEMENT. BIDEN: THAT'S NOT TRUE. TRUMP: WHO DO YOU HAVE? NAME ONE GROUP THAT CAME OUT AND SUPPORTED YOU. GO AHEAD. WE HAVE TIME. BIDEN: WE DON'T HAVE TIME TO DO ANYTHING. TRUMP: A ONE LAW-ENFORCEMENT GROUP HOST: I WILL TAKE BACK GOING TO ANOTHER SUBJECT WHICH IS THE ISSUE OF PROTEST IN MANY CITIES TURNING VIOLENT INFO AND OREGON ESPECIALLY WE HAD MORE THAN 103 DAYS A PROTEST WHICH I THANK YOU WOULD AGREE MANY OF THOSE TURNED INTO RIOTS. BUT MR. YOU SAY THOSE WHO COMMIT CRIMES SHOULD BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE. BUT AS THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE, YOU SAID YOU ARE THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY RIGHT NOW HAVE YOU CALL THE DEMOCRATIC MAYOR OF BERLIN TO THE GOVERNOR OF OREGON TO SAY YOU HAVE TO STOP THIS? BRING IN THE NATIONAL GUARD AND DO WHATEVER IT TAKES TO STOP THE DAYS AND MONTHS OF VIOLENCE. BIDEN: I HOLD PUBLIC OFFICE NOW. I'M A FORMER VICE PRESIDENT. I HAVE MADE IT CLEAR MY PUBLIC STATEMENTS THE VIOLENCE SHOULD BE PROSECUTED. HOST: EXCUSE ME SIR BUT YOU HAVE NEVER CALLED FOR THE LEADERS IN GOVERNMENT AND IN OREGON TO CALL OUT THE NATIONAL GUARD'S. TRUMP: THEY ROTATE. BIDEN: THEY WOULD TAKE CARE OF IT IF THEY STAY OUT OF THE WAY. TRUMP: REALLY CRACKS? BIDEN: HIS OWN FORMER SPOKESPERSON SAID RIOTS AND CHAOS AND VIOLENCE HELP HIS CAUSE. TRUMP: WHO SAID THAT? KELLYANNE CONWAY. >> I DON'T THINK SHE SAID THAT. BIDEN: BUT TO SAY LET'S GET EVERYBODY TOGETHER AND FIGURE OUT HOW TO DO WITH THIS WHAT DOES HE DO? HE WAS GASOLINE ON THE FIRE CONSTANTLY. HOST: I WILL GIVE YOU ONE MINUTE TO ANSWER. TRUMP: I MADE A STATEMENT. HOST: IF YOU WANT TO SWITCH SEATS WE CAN DO THAT. TRUMP: THE NATIONAL GUARD THERE ARE NO PROBLEM. HOST: YOU REPEATEDLY CRITICIZE THE VICE PRESIDENT FOR NOT SPECIFICALLY CALLING OUT WEST BEING GROUPS INCLUDING ANTIFA WILL YOU CAN TELL MY SUPREMACIST AND MILITIA GROUPS AND TO SAY THAT THEY NEED TO STAND DOWN AND NOT ADD TO THE VIOLENCE IN A NUMBER OF THE CITIES AS WE SAW IN KENOSHA? TRUMP: I WOULD SAY ALMOST EVERYTHING I SEE IS FROM THE LEFT WING NOT THE RIGHT. I AM WILLING TO DO ANYTHING. HOST: THEN SAY IT. BIDEN: DO IT. TRUMP: GIVE ME A NAME. STANBACK IN STANDBY. BUT I WILL TELL YOU WHAT BECAUSE SOMEBODY HAS TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT ANTIFA AND THE LEFT IS NOT A RIGHT THING THE PROBLEM. BIDEN: ANTIFA IS AN IDEA NOT TO AN ORGANIZATION. HOST: WE ARE DONE. BIDEN: EVERYBODY THAT TELLS YOU THE TRUTH YOU SAY IT IS A BAD IDEA. YOU HAVE NO IDEA. TRUMP: ANTIFA IS A DANGEROUS RADICAL GROUP. HOST: I AM GOING TO ASK A QUESTION. WHEN THE PRESIDENT SEEKS A SECOND TERM, IT GENERALLY REFERENDUM ON HIS RECORD BUT VICE PRESIDENT YOU SAID DON'T COMPARE ME TO THE ALMIGHTY BUT COMPARE ME TO THE ALTERNATIVE AND IN THIS CASE YOU ARE THE ALTERNATIVE. LOOKING AT BOTH OF YOUR RECORDS, WHY SHOULD VOTERS ELECT YOU PRESIDENT FOR YOUR OPPONENT AND PRESENT YOU GO FIRST. TRUMP: BECAUSE THERE HAS NEVER BEEN AND ADMINISTRATION OR PRESIDENT WHO WAS DONE MORE THAN I HAVE DONE IN A HALF YEARS. DISPLAYED THE IMPEACHMENT HOAX, YOU SAW WHAT HAPPENED TODAY WITH HILLARY CLINTON AND A BIG CON JOB. FIGHTING THE FLANKS ON BOTH SIDES AND ABOVE NEVER AND ADMINISTRATION HAS DONE WHAT I HAVE DONE. BE. NINETEEN GREATEST ECONOMY, LOWEST EMPLOYMENT NUMBERS. EVERYTHING WAS GOOD GO BY THE WAY THERE WAS UNITY. PEOPLE CALLING ME FOR THE FIRST TIME IN YEARS TO SAY IT IS TIME MAYBE GO NOW WE ARE BUILDING A BACK UP AGAIN. REBUILDING THE MILITARY INCLUDING SPACE BAR'S. FIXING THE VETERANS ADMINISTRATION A MESS UNDER HIM. 308,000 PEOPLE DIED BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T HAVE PROPER HEALTHCARE NOW WE HAVE 91 PERCENT OF ALL READING FROM A VETERANS. WE TAKE CARE OF THEM. WE HAVE REBUILT THE MILITARY SOME PEOPLE SAY THE MOST IMPORTANT GO BY THE END OF THE FIRST TERM I WILL HAVE 300 FEDERAL JUDGES IN APPEALS JUDGES. 300 AND HOPE WITH THE GRACE OF A JUSTICES. ON THE SUPREME COURT. WHY SO MANY JUDGES? BECAUSE HIM AND PERSONAL, LEFT ME 128 JUDGES TO GO. WHEN YOU LEAVE OFFICE YOU DON'T LEAVE JUDGES. THEY LEFT 128 OPENINGS. IF I WAS A MEMBER OF HIS PARTY BECAUSE THEY OF A DIFFERENT PHILOSOPHY I WOULD SAY IF YOU LEFT US 128 OPENINGS YOU CANNOT BE A GOOD PRESIDENT OR VICE PRESIDENT. THANK YOU BECAUSE IT GIVES US NOW IT WILL BE A PART OF THAT NUMBER BY THE END OF THIS TERM 300 JUDGES IT IS A RECORD. HOST: WHY SHOULD VOTERS ELECT YOU PRESIDENT AS OPPOSED TO PRESIDENT TRUMP? BIDEN: AND THIS PRESIDENT WE HAVE BECOME WEAKER, SICKER, POOR, MORE DIVIDED, AND MORE VIOLENT. WAS VICE PRESIDENT WE INHERITED A RECESSION, HAS ASKED TO FIX IT, I DID, WE LEFT HIM A BOOMING ECONOMY AND HE CAUSED THE RECESSION. REGARD TO BEING WEAKER, I HAVE GONE HAD YOU HAD WRITTEN TO MAKE IT CLEAR WE WILL NOT TAKE ANY OF THIS STUFF. HE IS PUTIN'S PUPPY HE USES TO SAY ANYTHING ABOUT PARKING ON THE HEAD OF AMERICAN SOLDIERS. HOST: MR. PRESIDENT YOUR CAMPAIGN AGREED BOTH SIDES WOULD GET TO MINUTE ANSWERS UNINTERRUPTED YOUR SIDE AGREED. PLEASE OBSERVE YOUR CAMPAIGN AGREED TO AS A GROUND RULE. TRUMP: HE NEVER KEEPS HIS WORD. HOST: IT WAS A RHETORICAL QUESTION. BIDEN: THE BILLIONAIRES HAVE GOTTEN MUCH MORE WEALTHY BETWEEN THREE AND $400 MILLION MORE SENSE COVID-19. YOU ARE IN MORE TROUBLE THAN BEFORE. IN TERMS OF BEING MORE VIOLENT, WHEN AN OFFICE WAS 15 PERCENT LESS VIOLENCE IN AMERICA THAN TODAY. HE IS PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. IT IS ON HIS WATCH FOR MORE DIVIDED? WE CANNOT BE THIS WAY. SPEAKING OF MY SON, THE WAY YOU TALK ABOUT THE MILITARY AND THEM BEING LOSERS AND SUCKERS, MY SON WAS IN IRAQ AND SPENT A YEAR THERE. HE GOT THE ONSTAR, HE WAS NOT A LOSER HE WAS A PATRIOT IN THE LEFT BEHIND ARE HEROES. I AM TALKING ABOUT MY SON BEAU BIDEN. TRUMP: HUNTER BIDEN WAS THROWN OUT BECAUSE OF COCAINE USE WITH A DISHONORABLE DISCHARGE. HE MADE A FORTUNE IN UKRAINE AND CHINA. BIDEN: THAT IS NOT TRUE. BIDEN: MY SON. MY SON. MY SON HAD A DRUG PROBLEM HE IS OVERTAKEN IT HE HAS FIXED IT. HE IS WORKED ON IT. I AM PROUD OF IT. HOST: WE AS I THINK THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WILL HEAR ABOUT SOMETHING MORE SUBSTANTIAL. AS A MODERATOR I WILL MAKE A CALL. BIDEN: MITT ROMNEY SAID THAT MONEY IT WAS FOR POLITICAL REASONS. TRUMP: I WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT CLIMATE CHANGE. TRUMP: SO WHAT I. TRUMP: THE WILDFIRES RAGING BULL - - PUTTING MILLIONS OF ACRES, DISPLACED HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE. STATE OFFICIALS BLAME ON CLIMATE CHANGE YOU SAID I DON'T THINK THE SCIENCE KNOWS. AFTER THE FOUR YEARS US OUT OF THE PARIS CLIMATE ACCORD AND HAVE HER BACK OBAMA ENVIRONMENTAL RECORDS. WHAT DO BELIEVE ABOUT THE SCIENCE OF CLIMATE CHANGE AND WHAT WILL YOU DO IN THE NEXT FOUR YEARS TO CONFRONT IT? TRUMP: CRYSTAL CLEAN AIR AND WATER RIGHT NOW THE LOWEST CARBON. THE NUMBERS RIGHT NOW WE ARE DOING PHENOMENALLY. I HAVE NOT DESTROYED WHERE BUSINESSES. THEY HAVEN'T BEEN OUT OF COMMISSION. LOOK AT THE PARIS ACCORD IT WAS A DISASTER AND PAPER VERY HAPPY WHAT IS GOING ON. THE BUSINESSES ARE DOING WELL. YOU NEED FORCE MANAGEMENT WITH FIRES THEY ARE LOADED UP WITH THE DEAD TREES THAT ARE YEARS OLD THAT ARE LIKE TENDER AND LEAVES IT UP A CIGARETTE )-RIGHT-PARENTHESIS DOWN. HOST: WHAT ABOUT THE SCIENCE OF CLIMATE CHANGE? TRUMP: WE HAVE TO DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO HAVE IMMACULATE AIR AND IMMACULATE WATER YOU ARE PLANTING MORE ENTRIES. THE 1 BILLION TREE PROJECT. HOST: DO BELIEVE GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS CONTRIBUTE. TRUMP: A LOT OF THINGS TO. TO AN EXTENT, YES. WE HAVE TO DO BETTER MANAGEMENT OF OUR FOREST. YOU GET THE CALL CALIFORNIA'S MORNING. CALIFORNIA IS BURNING. WITH THAT WAS CLEANED, IF YOU FORCE MANAGEMENT, IN EUROPE THEY ARE CALLED FOREST CITIES AND THEY MAINTAIN THEIR FOREST. I WAS THE HEAD OF A MAJOR COUNTRY THAT IS A FOREST CITY. WE HAVE TREES THAT ARE ABLE TO IGNITE MUCH EASIER AND CALIFORNIA. THERE SHOULD BE THE PROBLEM. GETTING ALONG VERY WELL WITH THE GOVERNOR. AT SOME POINT EVERY YEAR YOU CANNOT HAVE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF LAND ONTO THE GREYHOUND. HOST: DO BELIEVE IN THE SCIENCE OF CLIMATE CHANGE THEN WHY HAVE YOU BACK THE CLEAN POWER PLAN FROM THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION. TRUMP: IT WAS DRIVING ENERGY PRICES THROUGH THE SKY. HOST: YOU ASKED ECONOMY STANDARDS CREATING MORE POLLUTION. TRUMP: NOT REALLY BECAUSE THE CAR IS MUCH LESS EXPENSIVE AND IT IS MUCH SAFER. IS A TINY DIFFERENCE BECAUSE OF THE COST OF THE CAR HE WOULD HAVE DOUBLE AND TRIPLE THE NUMBER OF CARS PURCHASED WHERE THOSE CARS ARE OUT THERE TEN OR 12 YEARS OLD THE CAR WILL BE SAFER AND MUCH CHEAPER. THAN THAT TAKES CARS OFF THE MARKET BECAUSE PEOPLE CAN'T AFFORD A CAR. PROBABLY WILL SEE HOW THAT TURNS OUT. MANY PEOPLE AGREE WITH ME. THE CAR HAS GOTTEN SO EXPENSIVE BECAUSE THEY HAVE COMPUTERS JUST A LITTLE BIT OF GASOLINE. I AM OKAY WITH ELECTRIC CARS. I HAVE GIVEN BIG ACHES - - INCENTIVES FOR ELECTRIC CARS BUT WHAT THEY HAVE DONE IN CALIFORNIA IS CRAZY. HOST: IS PRESIDENT RESPOND TO THE CLIMATE CHANGE RECORD OF THE PRESIDENT. YOU PROPOSED $2 TRILLION OF GREEN JOBS AND NEW LIMITS ON FRACKING AND NEW MISSION STATEMENT. [INAUDIBLE CONVERSATIONS] AND NO NEW NET EMISSIONS BY 2050. THE PRESIDENT SAYS IT WOULD TAKE THE ECONOMY COSTING MILLIONS OF JOBS. BIDEN: HE IS WRONG NUMBER ONE. NUMBER TWO I WAS ABLE TO BRING DOWN THE COST OF RENEWABLE ENERGY TO KEEP AND THEN OR AS CHEAP AS COAL AND GAS AND OIL. NOBODY WILL BUILD ANOTHER CLARIFIER PLANT IN AMERICA WILL FIRE THEY WILL GO TO RENEWABLE ENERGY. WE HAVE TO TAKE A FEDERAL FLEET THAT RUNS ON THE ELECTRIC VEHICLES. THE 500,000 IN CHARGER STATIONS WITH ALL THE HIGHWAYS WE'RE PULLING IN THE FUTURE WITH THE ECONOMY TO PROVIDE FOR THE ABILITY TO TAKE 4 MILLION THINGS TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE WEATHERIZED IN A WAY TO EMIT SIGNIFICANTLY LET ONE - - LESS GAS AND OIL THERE ARE THINGS WE CAN DO NOW WE CAN GET TO NANCY WILL IN TERMS OF ENERGY PRODUCTION BY 2035. NOT ONLY COSTING JOBS BY CREATING JOBS AND MILLIONS OF GOOD PAYING JOBS NOT $15 AN HOUR THE PREVAILING WAGE BY HAVING A NEW INFRASTRUCTURE THAT IS GREEN. AND I WILL BE JOINED THE PARIS ACCORD BECAUSE WITH US OUT WITH WHAT HAPPENS IT IS ALL FALLING APART AND SOMEONE WITH NO RELATIONSHIP TO FOREIGN-POLICY THE RAIN FOREST OF BRAZIL IS TORN DOWN. AND EVERY BIT OF CARBON IN THE UNITED STATES I WILL BE GATHERING UP THE COUNTRIES OF THE WORLD TO SAY HERE IS $20 BILLION. STOP TEARING DOWN THE FOREST AND THEN TO A SIGNIFICANT ECONOMIC CONSEQUENCES. HOST: THE PRESIDENT SAYS BALANCING ECONOMIC INTEREST AND ENVIRONMENTAL INTEREST HE HAS DRAWN HIS LINE. BIDEN: HE HASN'T DRAWN A LINE. HE WANTS TO MAKE SURE METHANE IS NOT A PROBLEM. YOU CAN EMIT MORE. YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE STANDARDS FOR THOSE AUTOMOBILES THAT EXIST NOW. TRUMP: IS NOT 2 BILLION OR 20 BILLION IT IS 111 ━-DASH $100 TRILLION TO PEOPLE OF THE BUILDINGS TO CORE SYSTEMS ARE OUT THERE WANT TO TAKE OUT THE COWS. THAT IS MORE MONEY THAN THE COUNTRY COULD MAKE IN 100 YEARS. HOST: ACTUALLY I HAVE STUDIED YOUR PLAN AND IT INCLUDES UPGRADING BUILDINGS WITH RISING 2 MILLION HOMES, ONE.5 MILLION ENERGY EFFICIENT HOMES BUILT, THE QUESTION THAT COMES THAT THE PRESIDENT IS SAYING AND THOSE THAT SUPPORT THE PRESIDENT SAYS IT SOUNDS LIKE IT WILL COST A LOT OF MONEY AND HURT THE ECONOMY. BIDEN: WILL CREATE THOUSANDS AND MILLIONS OF JOBS. TRUMP: HE DOESN'T KNOW HOW TO DO THAT. BIDEN: WILL CREATE MILLIONS OF GOOD PAYING JOBS IN THE TAX INCENTIVES FOR PEOPLE TO AUTHORIZE THAT HE WANTS TO GET RID OF. HE SAID MAYBE SHOULD DROP THE NUCLEAR WEAPON. TRUMP: I NEVER SAID THAT THEY MADE THAT UP. YOU MAKE UP A LOT. >> WE ARE IN A POSITION WHERE WE CAN CREATE HARD GOOD JOBS TO MAKE SURE THE ENVIRONMENT IS CLEAN AND WE ARE ALL IN BETTER SHAPE. ON FLOODS AND RISING SEAS WE ARE IN TROUBLE LOOK AT THE MIDWEST WITH THE STORMS THAT COME FROM WIPING OUT THOSE COUNTIES IN IOWA BECAUSE OF GLOBAL WARMING. MEDIA 15 PERCENT OF THE WORLDS PROBLEMS AND IN FACT THE REST OF THE WORLD THEY HAVE TO COME ALONG THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO GET BACK INTO THE PARIS ACCORD. TRUMP: WHY DIDN'T YOU DO THAT 47 YEARS RUSSIA DOES INDIA DOES BY THE WAY YOU MADE A COUPLE STATEMENTS. THE GREEN NEW DEAL IS $100 TRILLION. BIDEN: THAT IS NOT MY PLAN THAT IS NOT MY PLAN. TRUMP: HE AND HIS FRIENDS WENT WITH THAT I NEVER SAID. TRUMP: PLAY IT. IN ANSWERING THE FINAL QUESTION TO I CANNOT REMEMBER WITH ALL THE RANTING. HOST: ABOUT THE ECONOMY AND THE GREEN NEW DEAL. >> IT WILL PAY FOR ITSELF AS WE MOVE FORWARD. WE, BUILD PLANTS. BIDEN: I SUPPORT THE GREEN NEW DEAL. TRUMP: YOU DON'T? THAT IS THE RADICAL LEFT. >> I SUPPORT THE BIDEN PLAN THAT I PUT FORWARD WHICH IS DIFFERENT THAN WHAT HE CALLS THE RADICAL GREEN NEW DEAL. HOST: MILLIONS OF AMERICANS ARE RECEIVING MAIL AND BALANCE VOTING EARLY HOW CONFIDENT SHOULD WE BE THIS WOULD BE A FAIR ELECTION AND WHAT ARE YOU PREPARED TO DO OVER THE NEXT FIVE WEEKS NOT ONLY FROM ELECTION DAY BUT COUNTING MAIL AND BALLOTS? PREPARED TO DO TO REASSURE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE THE NEXT PRESIDENT IS A LEGITIMATE WINTER? BIDEN: I WILL VOTE.COM DECIDE HOW AND WHEN AND THE MEANS BY WHICH THEY WILL VOTE HIS OWN HOMELAND SECURITY DIRECTOR SAID THERE WAS NO EVIDENCE AT ALL MAIL-IN BALLOTS ARE A SOURCE TO BE MANIPULATED AND CHEATING BUT THE FACT IS THERE ARE MILLIONS OF PEOPLE BECAUSE OF COVID VOTING BY MAIL AND BALLOTS LIKE HE DOES. HE SAYS BEHIND THE DESK SENDING HIS BALLOT TO FLORIDA. WE WILL MAKE SURE THOSE WHO WANT TO VOTE IN PERSON BECAUSE OF THE WATCHERS ARE THERE TO MAKE SURE THEY CAN SOCIALLY DISTANCE THEY ARE OPEN ON TIME AND UNTIL THEY ARE COUNTED IT'S ABOUT TRYING TO DISSUADE PEOPLE FROM VOTING BECAUSE HE'S TRYING TO SCARE PEOPLE TO THINK IT IS A LEGITIMATE. SHOP AND YOU WILL DETERMINE THE OUTCOME OF THE SELECTION GO VOTE IF YOU CAN TOTALLY, TOTALLY YOU CAN IN PERSON, VOTE IN PERSON. HE CANNOT STOP YOU FROM BEING ABLE TO DETERMINE THE OUTCOME OF THE ELECTION. IN TERMS OF WHEN THE VOTES ARE COUNTED THEN THEY WILL BE ACCEPTED. IF I WIN OR IF I LOSE THAT IS EXCEPTED. BUT HE SAYS HE IS NOT SURE WHAT HE WILL ACCEPT, IT DOESN'T MATTER. IF WE GET THE VOTES IT IS ALL OVER. HE WILL GO. HE CANNOT STAY IN POWER. IT WON'T HAPPEN. IT WON'T HAPPEN. VOTE. MAKE SURE YOU UNDERSTAND YOU HAVE IN YOUR CONTROL FOR THE COUNTRY WILL LOOK LIKE THE NEXT FOUR YEARS. WILL A CHANGE OR FOUR MORE YEARS OF THESE LIES? HOST: MR. PRESIDENT TWO MINUTES. TRUMP: LISTENING TO JOE TALK ABOUT A TRANSITION. I WON THE ELECTION AND THERE WAS NO TRANSITION LOOK AT CROOKED HILLARY AND ALL THE DIFFERENT PEOPLE THERE WAS NO TRANSITION. THEY CAME AFTER ME TRYING TO DO A CLUE AND SPYING ON MY CAMPAIGN FROM THE DAY I WANTED EVEN BEFORE THE DAY I CAME DOWN THE ESCALATOR WITH OUR FIRST LADY. DISASTER IN A DISGRACE TO OUR COUNTRY HAVE CAUGHT THEM ALL. IT'S ALL ON TAPE GO BY THE WAY YOU GAVE THE IDEA FOR THE LOGAN ACT AGAINST GENERAL FLYNN. BECAUSE WE CAUGHT YOU IN ANY SENSE. PRESIDENT OBAMA IN THE OFFICE KNEW ABOUT IT. DON'T TALK ABOUT A TRANSITION. TALK ABOUT A DISASTER A SOLICITED BALLOT IS OKAY YOU ARE ASKING AND THEY SEND IT AND YOU SEND IT BACK. I DID THAT. THEY ARE SENDING MILLIONS OF BALLOTS ALL OVER THE COUNTRY. THEY HAVE FOUND THEM IN CREEKS THEY FOUND SOME THAT HAD THE NAME TRUMP AND THE WASTEPAPER BASKET. THEY SENT TO INTO A DEMOCRATIC AREA EVERYBODY GOT TO BALLOTS. THIS WILL BE A GOD LIKE NEVER SEEN. ON NOVEMBER 3rd YOU ARE WATCHING AND YOU SEE IN THE ELECTION AND I THINK WE WOULD DO WELL BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE HAPPY WITH THE JOB YOU HAVE DONE. WE MIGHT NOT KNOW THAT FOR MONTHS. LOOK AT MANHATTAN. LOOK AT NEW JERSEY. LOOK AT VIRGINIA AND OTHER PLACES TO PERCENT OR 1 PERCENT 30 AND 40 PERCENT IT IS A FRAUD. IT IS A SHAME BECAUSE THEY SEE YOU HAVE TO HAVE YOUR PALADIN BY NOVEMBER 10th. THAT MEANS THAT IS SEVEN DAYS AFTER THE ELECTION. THOSE DATES ARE RUN BY DEMOCRATS. HOST: YOUR BEEN CHARGING FOR MONTHS THAT MAIL-IN BALLOTS WOULD BE A DISASTER AND IT IS RIGGED BUT IN 2018 THE LAST MIDTERM ELECTION 41 MILLION PEOPLE VOTED TO CAST THEIR BALLOTS BY MAIL AND ARE YOU COUNTING ON THE SUPREME COURT INCLUDING JUDGE TEETHREE. TRUMP: I THINK WE WILL NEED THEM BUT I THINK SO BECAUSE WHAT IS HAPPENING IS AT LEAST 1 PERCENT OF THE BALANCE OF 2016 WERE INVALIDATED. HOST: THERE ARE MILLIONS OF BALLOTS GOING OUT RIGHT NOW. TRUMP: YOU DO A SOLICITED BALLOT. HOST: MILLIONS OF PEOPLE. TRUMP: THEN YOU GO AND VOTE. YOU REALLY DO A SOLICITED BALLOT SEND IN AND SEND IT BACK TO LOOK AT WEST VIRGINIA MAILMAN IS SELLING THE BALLOTS. THEY ARE BEING SOLD AND IT DUMPED IN RIVERS. THIS IS A NOBLE THING. THIS IS NOT GOING TO END WELL. IT IS A TERRIBLE THING. BIDEN: WILL BEEN DOING REPUBLICAN BALLOTS YOU HAVE TO SOLICITED IT IS SENT TO YOU. THEY SAID IT HAS TO BE POSTMARKED BY ELECTION DAVE DOESN'T GET IN UNTIL THE SEVENTH OR EIGHTH IT STILL SHOULD BE COUNTED HE IS AFRAID OF COUNTING THE VOTES. TRUMP: YOU ARE WRONG. HE IS SO WRONG. HOST: VICE PRESIDENT THE BIGGEST PROBLEM WITH MAIL-IN VOTING IS NOT FRAUD HISTORICALLY, BUT THAT SIZABLE NUMBERS ARE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS ARE THROWN OUT THEY WERE NOT PROPERLY FILLED OUT OR OTHER IRREGULARITIES WHERE THE DEADLINE. ARE YOU CONCERNED OF THE SUPREME COURT JUSTICE. WILL SETTLE THIS? BIDEN: I AM CONCERNED OF ANY COURT BECAUSE IF YOU GET A BALLOT AND FILL IT OUT YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO HAVE THE AFFIDAVIT AND SOMEONE TO SAY THIS IS ME. IF YOU CAN VERIFY BEFORE IT IS THROWN OUT THAT IS SUFFICIENT TO SOMEBODY MADE THE MISTAKE. WHO THEY VOTED FOR, TESTIFY, SAY WHO THEY VOTED FOR THAT IS LEGITIMATE. HOST: I HAVE A FINAL QUESTION GENTLEMAN. TRUMP: YOU KNOW THAT IT CANNOT BE DONE. HOST: FINAL QUESTION. IN EIGHT STATES ELECTION WORKERS ARE PROHIBITED CURRENTLY BY LAW TO EVEN BEGIN TO PROCESS BALLOTS OR TAKE THEM OUT OF THE ENVELOPES AND TOLD ELECTION DAY. THAT MEANS IT'S LIKELY WITH A HUGE INCREASE THAT WE WILL NOT KNOW ON ELECTION NIGHT WINNER IS. IT COULD BE DAYS OR WEEKS UNTIL WE FIND OUT THE NEW PRESIDENT. I HOPE NEW REVIEW INTERRUPTED THE OTHER BUT WILL YOU URGE YOUR SUPPORTERS TO STAY CALM DURING THIS EXTENDED PERIOD NOT TO ENGAGE IN ANY CIVIL UNREST. WE PLEDGE TONIGHT NOT TO DECLARE VICTORY UNTIL THE ELECTION HAS BEEN INDEPENDENTLY CERTIFIED? TRUMP: TELLING MY SUPPORTERS TO GO INTO THE POLLS AND WATCH VERY CAREFULLY. THAT IS WHAT HAS TO HAPPEN. URGING THEM TO DO IT. IN PHILADELPHIA THEY WENT TO WATCH THEY ARE CALLED POLL WATCHERS THEY WERE THROWN OUT. THEY WERE NOT ALLOWED TO WATCH BECAUSE BAD THINGS HAPPEN IN PHILADELPHIA. BAD THINGS. I HOPE IT IS A FAIR ELECTION I AM 100 PERCENT ON BOARD. BUT IF I SEE TENS OF THOUSANDS OF PALLETS BEING MANIPULATED I CANNOT GO ALONG WITH THAT. IT MEANS WE HAVE A FRAUDULENT ELECTION. THEY ARE NOT EQUIPPED THOSE PEOPLE ARE NOT EQUIPPED TO HANDLE THAT. NUMBER TWO THEY CHEAT. THEY CHEAT. THEY FOUND PALLETS IN THE WASTEPAPER BASKET THREE DAYS AGO AND THEY ALL HAD THE NAME TRUMP ON THEM AND THEY WERE MILITARY BALLOTS. HOST: VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN WOULD YOU WORD YOUR SUPPORTERS TO STAY CALM WHILE THE VOTE IS COUNTED AND WE PLEDGE NOT TO DECLARE VICTORY AND TELL INDEPENDENTLY CERTIFIED? BIDEN: YES. HERE IS THE DEAL WE COUNT THE BALLOTS SOME CANNOT EVEN BE OPENED UNTIL ELECTION DAY. THERE ARE THOUSANDS OF BALLOTS I WILL TAKE TIME. BY THE WAY, OUR MILITARY HAD BEEN SEEN BY A BALANCES THE END OF THE CIVIL WAR IN EFFECT. WHY IS IT FOR THEM NOT FRAUDULENT? IS THE SAME PROCESS NOBODY HAS ESTABLISHED AT ALL THERE IS FRAUD RELATED TO THE MAIL AND BALLOT THAT SOMEHOW IT IS OUR FRAUDULENT PROCESS. TRUMP: IT HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED WILL GET MAIL AND THEY HAVE NO IDEA. BIDEN: HE DOESN'T KNOW WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT GLOBAL EXCEPT AND HE WILL TO. DO YOU KNOW WHY? BECAUSE ONCE A WINNER IS DECLARED AND ALL THE VOTES ARE COUNTED THAT IS THE END OF IT. IF IT IS ME, FINE. IF IT IS NOT ME I WILL SUPPORT THE OUTCOME. I WILL BE A PRESIDENT NOT JUST FOR THE DEMOCRATS BUT DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS. HOST: GENTLEMAN THAT IS THE END OF THE DEBATE. WE BELIEVE THAT THERE. TO BE CONTINUED IN MORE DEBATES AS WE GO ON. PRESIDENT TRUMP, VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN AND HAS BEEN AN INTERESTING HOUR AND A HALF. THANK YOU FOR PARTICIPATING IN THE FIRST OF THREE DEBATES. THANK YOU TO THE CLEVELAND CLINIC FOR HOSTING THIS EVENT. THE NEXT TO MAKE THE COMMISSION OF PRESIDENTIAL DEBATES IS ONE WEEK FROM TOMORRh AT THE UNIVERSITY OF UTAH IN SALT LAKE CITY. THE TWO VICE PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEES KAMALA HARRIS AND MIKE PENCE WILL DEBATE AT 9:00 P.M. EASTERN WE HOPE YOU WATCH UNTIL THEN THANK YOU AND GOOD NIGHT. [APPLAUSE] TRUMP: THANK YOU. TRUMP: THANK YOU. TRUMP: THANK YOU . [APPLAUSE] [CHEERS AND APPLAUSE] [INAUDIBLE CONVERSATIONS] [INAUDIBLE CONVERSATIONS]
What I love is how Trump advocated for masks and social distancing and whatnot more in the first 30 or so minutes of the debate than he has in the last 5 months.
"Proud boys - stand back and standby" ...what the actual fuck does he mean by that?
I can't believe this is the state of politics in America right now. What an embarrassment.
I mean, seriously? This is the best we got?
Trump was given the easiest most slam dunk question of his life and he couldn't do it. He couldn't denounce white supremacy.
It's pretty frustrating to see people act like Biden was being equally childish. How the fuck are you supposed to address a debate opponent who's screaming over you every 10 seconds without losing your cool? He called him a clown, a liar, told him to "keep yapping" and somehow people think this makes Biden level with Trump? Are you fucking kidding me? Trump got into a shouting match with the god damn Fox News moderator, Trump started attacking Biden's kid's drug use, Trump called Biden "a number 2," Trump was constantly murmuring dumb shit in the microphone at every single comment as though the debate rules didn't apply to him.
The cringe here is like 90% on Trump. It's fucking incredible that we Americans watch the President behave like some cocaine-riddled toddler and still have nearly half the electorate think there's nothing wrong with it. This is an embarrassment to our country, Trump makes every one of us look like fucking idiots to the rest of the world and rightly so if our people think he makes a good leader.
Lol. No time stamp needed, just everything
Just trump doing what he does best, spew shit until someone cuts his mic, then whines like a bitch that everyone’s against him. Jesus Christ
Watching this as an outsider is fascinating and in a way terrifying. I remember seeing clips from the Obama - Romney clips, it looked like the ideal form of democracy, which for someone from a post-communist country was just the coolest thing. Discussing real issues, with serious and complete answers from both candidates about their approach to it. You could feel the pride and solemnity.
This "debate", on the other hand, is like a perfect image of America's reputation in the world for the past few years. Ridiculous, petty, old.
I don't think Biden is a very good candidate either, by the way. I'm not familiar with his policies but the way he speaks shows that he is way past his prime, and I don't think that's the sort of leader the US needs right now.
Overall, for me it's less cringe and more sad, to be honest.
The cringe was not evenly spread. There was one somewhat cringy man trying to have a debate and there was a schoolyard bully having a tantrum and repeating fox buzz words that scare your grandfather.