EXIT THE MATRIX: The Secret To Living MINDFULLY | Carrie-Anne Moss & Lewis Howes

welcome everyone to the school of greatness podcast we've got carrie anne moss in the house good to see you thank you very excited for this we got connected through eric handler who's a mutual friend of ours and a good buddy of mine so i'm very grateful for eric for connecting us and i already feel really connected to you just in the last 20 minutes hearing about everything and learning about your story so excited to dive in now a lot of people know you from the matrix right which was what 15 years ago when that came out or 1999 i think 2000 yep and uh that was kind of like it was such a huge thing it's it's amazing that you're talking about all the things that we were talking about before about really this consciousness and this awareness that that's really what you started in your career that made it big is this consciousness and awareness and now it's really what you're doing with your work working with mothers working with other women about bringing this to life right yeah i think it's not so coincidental really and i i'm in awe of the unfoldment of my own life and looking at all of those things that could appear to be coincidental and understanding that that there's a journey there that is beyond me and i'm beyond grateful for getting to play like that role and having that impact and being a part of something that had that that much of an impact on people still today yeah and it's the consciousness of it is so deep and layered and i remember at the time that i didn't at all understand the depth of of it i was you know on a spiritual journey i understood the layers of consciousness in it but i didn't understand it at all from an intellectual point of view the directors and the writers um that created it they very smart people and yeah really bright brilliant i mean it's like a script like that totally brilliant and i i remember i had a rock at my door in fact i still have it it's in my office and it said believe and i remember thinking about trinity and i understood her heart completely i'm not a very intellectual person like i i completely come from instinct and intuition and my heart and i understood her that way that was my way in and i always felt like she was the heart of the three of them murphy as neo and trinity and and um i had the greatest time playing her and bringing her to life and being a part of that and experience yeah i mean it was life just completely changed after that because before you were working and you were a consistent actor right and you were a model before that but then that really kind of like took it to a whole nother level it did i i everyone watched the movie right yeah i mean it was it was one of those moments where i remember shortly before getting it where i thought uh you know i'm gonna be turning 30 and maybe i'll never be in movies maybe i'll just have this mediocre television career and that's like better than most people most people don't get that people don't ever get that i make a living as an actor i understood how big that was uh i had a lot of friends who were actors and most of us weren't making a living as an actor so i understood i you know i bought a house as an actor i was paying my bills as an actor waiting tables yeah and it wasn't that far right you know i was making a living some months were like well maybe i need to go get a second job right absolutely absolutely in fact never certain as an actor in fact wait when i after i shot the matrix that year of shooting the matrix i wasn't sure if i was going to need to wait tables in between it coming out no i wasn't sure and i thought to myself was it not that big of a paid gig or no no i was like nobody right so they gave you so you didn't get a big like no i was it was yeah i would have done it for free and they all know that right when they're making your deals but i remember thinking you know i got offered a few things before it it came out and things for like a lot of money but they weren't great and i had to trust that the movie i didn't know if the movie was going to be big i didn't know if um if my career was going to take off or not uh and i just had to know that it i had to trust and really get into that place of trusting that wow and she turned down bigger paying jobs oh big time a potential of a could potentially be a bust totally who knows if the movie's going to do hardly right these guys weren't like uh were they known directors or producers before they had done like a a a movie that had done well but there was no who knows i had no idea it was a weird concept so many people didn't understand what the heck we were doing and and yeah i had to i had to believe and i hadn't seen like a piece of it i didn't know what it even looked like and i just i remember getting one offer in particular that was quite big i'd never seen an offer like that like a tv dealer no it was a movie thing but it was it wasn't in alignment with like what i was about so it was i couldn't i couldn't say yes to just the money yeah couldn't do it and i'm glad i i didn't do it you know i've never done that right so so it wasn't really that hard of a decision and if i had to wait tables i would have waited tables you know what i loved waiting tables i got to tell you i waited tables i was um very good at it i almost managed restaurants when i was like 17 18 years old in vancouver i was the waitress that people would bring their families and i would hold their kids while they ate dinner and their children would bring me photographs that they'd drawn and i loved being of service and i loved serving people food and i loved being in the energy of a restaurant i thought that's what i was going to do as a career was perhaps manage and you know i was i was going up the ranks in the restaurant chain that i worked at pretty fast because i was good with people and i loved what i did and i enjoyed it and then i remembered a friend of mine came in and i was i remembered that i had a dream of being an actress and i didn't know exactly how i was going to do it because i had never seen anyone do it before i didn't know anyone i mean michael j fox had gone to my elementary school really although i did canadian huh yeah and although i didn't know him he was like a light for me that someone who who walked in the same school that i went to was able to make it make that and it would just seem so far away and i just rekindled that idea that i had that dream and it lived within me and sure i could go into restaurant business and and probably do really well at it and really enjoy it but that i had this deep yearning to be an artist and to be an actress and to tell stories and to do that and i went and i studied i came here to pasadena to to go to school for a year and i you know i had a job to pay for that i you know i i mean it really was a hard thing to do i went to school full-time and and had like three jobs or something how are you at this time i think i was 18 or 19. sure i was young and then i traveled and i did some modeling and that was really an incredibly eye-opening experience for me and then i moved home to vancouver after being in i'd been in japan i'd been in spain i'd been in um in a few different places in belgium and i came home and i thought okay i'll i'll try to be an actress here in vancouver and after a few days i started to feel kind of blue and my mom was like that's not like you i normally have quite a sad you mean yeah yeah blue isn't sad you don't say that no i just didn't know if you're like is that a girl sick or whatever i felt yeah i felt kind of sad and not very turned on energetically for what was happening in my life i mean i'd literally been home like a few days you know i probably needed to ride it out a little bit but i remembered like since i was a child i saw myself living here wow driving on the pch wearing all white which is interesting cause now i'm a kundalini yoga teacher and wearing all white i wear all white all the time i live right off of that pch and i envisioned that since i was a child wow i envisioned the life that i have since i was a child when we talk about you know visualization and manifestation those were naturally within me since i was a little kid i was making vision boards when i was seven and eight years old did you know what you were doing no idea he was like here's a dream it'd be cool to do this i was meditating when i was a kid with other children and asking and going in a circle with them and and having a love for yoga which i didn't even know what yoga was and i was just very tuned in i guess to some of those things that now i have such a great love for and i can see the seeds and they weren't planted there by other people they were in me no they weren't you didn't see it on tv or movies well i could have seen a lot of what my career was in television absolutely because i grew up watching a lot of television so that's was the inspiration it came from the things you saw in hollywood or whatever right absolutely pch exactly how would i have known that yes yes or something probably i think one we're talking way pre-bay water we're talking three's company we're talking happy days we're talking you know all those shows and i remember like just as a family we would go to seattle once a year and to go like across the border into the united states of america was huge and i could get like all the candy and the chocolate that i saw in the commercials because we didn't have that stuff it was like a big deal like the fake eminem's not the real one i don't know we had different stuff but i remember like thinking like america had something that you wanted that i wanted and although i can see now that it's not necessarily true canada america i mean sure there's so many great qualities in both countries but i was definitely attracted to the vibration of the united states of america for me as an as a wanting to be an actress and stuff it's funny we were just talking before we started recording that you know you might move out of the country now at some point like depending on who is like the president based on where things go it's kind of interesting how you got what you wanted and now you may want to well who knows i think i always want to move and i i think you know one of the things that i'm exploring right now at this phase of my life is where is home and when it comes down to it home is in is within me no matter what and i know that i believe that but there's another level that i'm exploring i was just writing about it for annapurna living about home and i've written a lot about it because it's i think as the mother of three children that i think about it a lot my husband and i think about it a lot about the memories that we are creating for our children and um the where we're choosing to be and where we're laying down roots and what kind of life we want for our children and the reality is you're having the life you're having so you can live in your mind of thinking that things could be better somewhere else and yet you need to be where you are because as ramdas says you know be here now or you know wherever i am there i am and i i'm really exploring that right now you know we're in a rental house in the palisades because we sold our family home a couple of years ago thinking we were going to move out of this out of california and i love the house that we live in it's an old house but it's not mine i still have like boxes in the closet we've moved in we've it's like we're going on our second year but we didn't unpack everything and i didn't realize i was loving it at a distance i didn't realize until just a few weeks ago went away to london to work and i had this breakthrough sometimes i have those when i pull out of my life and have a moment of space mental space i think as mothers it's it's not often that we have the mental space to be um thinking of other things other than what we're what we're doing and your children yeah and all of that yeah and so i had this moment and when i came home i i just saw the house in a different way i started loving it in this way i had this dream of of living on a farm and having animals and having um green and having a garden all of these things and so i started a little one like not a big one and of course then then this is what my mind does i thought oh i need to go to like the right store and like get the right plants that well i can't do that right now so i went to gelson's and got the organic herbs that just were there i three plants 3.99 each i don't have to wait until i can get to the perfect store to get the right combination to have it done right it's not about that i put these three little potted plants in my window and a fern and it's bringing me so much joy to look at it every morning with my tea and i thought wow i've been waiting i've been waiting thinking that over there somewhere else i'll have that but i can have it here i can have it now and that's what i try to live my life exploring where am i not living my like my desire of how i want to be living like right now intimacy with people well my life is filled with people that i'm interacting with all the time how can i connect in that way without leaking all over the place or squandering my energy what do you mean by leaking well i think that i have a tendency although not as much as i used to have i used to this used to be something that i definitely dealt with and when i was younger sharing too much or leaking like having my energy leaking out of the boat basically sure and i know when i'm doing that that it's a sign that something's off so when i look at that and i noticed it recently i hadn't noticed it in a while i hadn't felt that i thought okay what is that telling me like it's a a red flag or a red light saying okay where am i not taking tender care of my soul or myself or what i have right in front of me and what i love about consciousness and awareness is that it happens in a moment and so i try to look at my life that way in everything i do yeah and when i feel off i don't beat myself up i go oh something needs my attention thank you for showing me that okay let's shift here or shift there and i call that feedback yeah you know it's not like we're failing at something in our life or our relationships or our health it's not a failure it's just like it's information for us to say what's working what's not working on our dreams or where we want to be you know so that's cool what do you think is missing the most for people right now at least in let's say in uh in america what's missing for people what do you think that they're lacking the most of well the thing that comes to mind is connection i i'm pretty passionate about that because i think that when you're connected to yourself then you know what you need and i think that we're bombarded with so much information right now and we don't need any more information what we need is wisdom to know what information works for us we don't really need another course to do to get ourselves distracted into another idea and there's so many people that are teaching so many great things which i'm all about and i i i'm so grateful but really how can you discern for yourself what you need and not just get lost in the information and feel overwhelmed and bogged down and then start to spiral into the same issues that brought you there which are not feeling like you're enough like so-and-so has a better life than you and maybe you're doing it wrong but when you're connected to yourself and that's why one of the things i teach are three-minute meditations so that people don't i think yoga teacher yeah well i've been studying kundalini yoga for a long time like over 20 years and i became a kundalini yoga teacher i took the teacher training which i highly recommend to absolutely everybody just to get it if you're not going to teach it no doubt about it really it's the single best thing i've ever done wow the tools for living a life a modern life right now are in there and i knew i needed it my husband had taken it and uh i watched him really transform and then i knew i knew all this i'm you know i i had experienced before you heard it no i've been taking yo forever i've been studying with guru singh forever i've you know i've been awake for a long time but i was starting to feel a lot of anxiety daily anxiety when was this probably after i had my kids started growing a little bit so this is a few years ago yeah you have three children i have three kids 12 almost 13. he's almost 13 and then i have a 10 year old and then i have an almost seven-year-old sure and i started just to feel the manicness of my mind just you know at night not sleeping well thinking about what schools they should go to what the world was going to be like for them and feeling just overwhelmed and leaking with looking for the best schools and looking for what i could do when really what i needed was to connect to myself finding there's no perfect school out there there's no perfect garden there's no perfect garden there's no perfect neighborhood there's no perfect anything and so i started to take the teacher training which i did over a nine month period and at that point i couldn't even imagine like leaving my life for one weekend a month i mean so much i would go home at night but up until then i hadn't i barely had a babysitter for my children so it was a huge deal huge commitment huge commitment my children play sports on the weekend i like to be there i don't like to miss stuff so what made you decide to do it well it was time i knew it was time my husband said we can do it we can we can take i can take care of it you go do this yeah this will be the best thing you do and so he was very supportive of that which always helps and i know a lot of people don't have that kind of supportive partnerships but um i was really grateful i needed that i needed that support because i don't think i would have done it quite then and then i did it and uh started you know if i could say one thing that i got out of it like i got a million things but one of the major things was having a regular meditation practice it's so powerful so powerful because when you can meditate and start taking out the garbage of your subconscious mind and you go through that period of getting there and then you get to that place where when you close your eyes and even if it's only for three minutes that you have a moment of not being in that craziness and all of that mannequin the matrix yeah and you connect to yourself and you connect to your soul even if it's for a moment when you catch a glimpse of that your life changes yeah because you you just it's it's the sweetest thing and it doesn't cost any money you don't need anybody but you and it's not always blissful or easy or any i'm not suggesting that but when you catch a glimpse of that it's for me it's heaven it's just the most euphoric like i love that and so i do that every day that's great and sometimes i don't want to do it and sometimes i don't have that euphoric moment of it but the more that i do it the more that i'm able to handle stressful situations the more that i'm able to go with the flow and what did i the other day i was taking my daughter somewhere and we were what did i say to her i said well let's go let's go to sweet rose creamery this ice cream place organic ice cream place on the corner and she was like really she was so shocked and she was like i said yeah i said let's just do it she was like and she's walking ahead of me she goes you know mom sometimes you just gotta go with the flow and i thought how many times have i said that to her when i've been able to get her in the car are you late for practice or whatever it was so cute to hear it mirrored back of course in a situation that she was just so excited yeah she's gotta go with the flow that's amazing so yeah uh yeah so meditation and um has been such a big deal for me and the kundalini yoga music that i listen to a lot raises the vibration of my of my life the sound the sound actually do you do the balls too and uh don't know what's it called uh they like put the sticker on the bowl yeah i love that you know it's a great sound yeah i i don't know sure i think it's bowls i don't know it's like crystal balls or something right yeah yeah it's not part of my practice but i sure appreciate that but my practice is real simple i'll put a sheepskin in my kitchen on the floor tune in meditate i'll do it in my kids playroom i'll do it in the bathroom while they're one of them when they were little having a bath and that's what i feel that i want to share with women and why i work with a lot of mothers on annapurna living and with my mother course and with fierce grace collective is demystifying meditation i'm really teaching to the householder kundalini yoga was brought for the householder not for the you know for the person living on you know in the cave and solitude and and all of that like we're living these modern lives you who've got a career busy career three kids full-on you know full-on full-on and you're saying that you used to say no to things like this you know in the past you say no to everything as you said you didn't have the time and so you've got a lot going on so how do you meditate and how do you develop the practice in this in the messiness right well i try to keep it super simple yeah and how long is it for a few minutes you said well like my sod now which is like some exercises it can be more like half an hour to an hour with yoga yeah mixed in but if i if i really can't do that then i'll literally it takes me five minutes to tune in and do a meditation and that'll make such a huge difference in my day if i if i do that you know it's interesting i've been talking a lot about meditation uh on this with people and what if there was no meditation what would you be doing to give yourself that inner peace if there was no meditation or yoga you couldn't do it do you think there'd be a substitute for it for people that are like you know what it's just really not for me like meditation yoga it's just not something i mean we got to think about doing but is there another solution for people who are similar to you who have busy lives i think they should try meditating because i think that when i come back around to any issue that i have in my life that if i'm meditating on a regular basis even if it's just sitting still putting your hand on your heart and inhaling and exhaling and connecting to your breath i'm not talking about doing i don't do like hardcore yoga i do like kundali you know that kind of physical downward dog i mean i do i love that but that's not the kind of yoga that i do kundalini yoga is different it's the yoga awareness it's a different kind of yoga that when i do that regularly it's not that things don't happen but i'm able to clearly move through them energetically and i'm able to sort of see how i need to to do things and when i don't do them do that then it's a lot more complicated so i say try it you know i i don't believe that any of us i can't you have to experience something and if you really don't want to like maybe ask why like what is that whose voice is that because if somebody if you if you could sit down with yourself and connect to yourself and maybe there's too much pain maybe there's too many voices in there maybe you just can't imagine it maybe you judge that or whatever that is look at that what is that because there's probably something to really learn there sure yeah and maybe it's running for some people or hiking for some people and looking at nature i mean there's so many ways in swimming or whatever yeah there's so many ways in and you have to know yourself to know what works for you yeah who was the most influential person in your life growing up my mom why is that well she loved me so much that i remember feeling incredibly loved as a child and i remember feeling like the world was a good place i think that's really important to give our children and i think that because we're exposed to so many things today it's hard to protect them yeah and you want your children to be aware but sometimes i hear like really young children worried about gmo food and worried about the environment and of course they are because they're hearing us and we're having more intimacy with our children today than perhaps the parents of my you know my generation of growing up uh i think that we are much more intimate so our children are really experiencing us in a different way which is wonderful yeah but i have to be mindful of not bringing too much to them too soon what do you mean too much to them too much protection or too much too much information let them be children let them believe that the world is a beautiful safe incredible place because you need that foundation i think to really thrive in life that's something that i believe is really worth a lot and it's hard to have that you know i have an older child now too so my younger child is getting exposed to all kinds of stuff so much younger and and there isn't any perfect way and i'm all about connection to my children and being present and meeting them where they are and all of that but my mom i look back and i felt we didn't have a lot of money we didn't have any of that material stuff and yet i felt like our house was magic i felt like i felt like there was so much possibility in the world wow and i got that from her and it's not necessarily that she is like this super positive person she created that for us how so i have a memory like my own one of my biggest memories as a child with were these placemats we had and they had that yellow happy face uh sure and we had like things that hung that had like happy faces on them and she had like sayings about parenting on the wall that were all about respect and she talked to me like i was a human being a person we had a relationship that was that way and she i remember her talking about that she wanted that that it was important to her and she put herself through college when my brother and i were little and i went to the nursery school at the college she took my brother to classes we watched our mom get her high school diploma and go to college and learn it learn how to do something i remember my mom coming home with her one day from there it was langara college and like she picked up a hitchhiker a kid and like gave him a lecture about like why it wasn't a good idea to do that and i was in the car and she wasn't like she was super uh you know reading and into into being self taught and about she wanted us to have like a better life right she wanted my parents together no they weren't wow so she was a single mom she was a single mom for a big part of it and then she got married to my stepfather for a few years in there but i think of our family unit as my brother and her and i wow and she always believed in me too and i remember when i was a kid she would come home and i would have literally called all the acting agencies in vancouver and like set up appointments and she'd come home i think i was like maybe sixth seventh eighth ninth grade i don't know somewhere in there and uh she'd be like carrie anne you're gonna have to call and cancel that and when you're old enough to drive yourself you can wow and i'm so glad that she did that and that's hilarious but she took me you know i was in dance class and i sang all over vancouver i was part of this troupe called the ormiston entertainers and there were we were like this we would go into this this woman taught us and we'd sing show tunes and we'd go and we'd perform i was a scottish dancer and i performed that way and i sang and i was in all the school plays and i wrote the school plays and i i i loved that and my mom always played music and she played the guitar and she sang and so i was around a creative you know she was a creative person i think the thing that i have that's surprising is the fierceness that i have i think that's where if i look at my mom and what she might be proud of me for and i know she's proud of me for lots of things because she shares that with me is that i'm i'm pretty hardcore i'm [Music] i'm very compassionate and have a lot of heart but i'm also really strong yeah i feel that about you thanks thanks but like i moved here knowing absolutely nobody had one person that i knew i had no money i had no green card i just had a dream and i wasn't super savvy i mean i was i have a great deal of naivety at the same time that helps in a yeah totally helps i don't know how i i lived for oprah back then because she was my three o'clock you know i knew i knew i had something that i could do at three o'clock because i didn't have auditions i didn't have friends i didn't have anything here that first year of living in l.a i lived right around the corner on melrose my man i met my i met my manager who's from vancouver she and i have been together for twenty four years she still lives there so she's so she was in vancouver she said to go to l.a i met her i was i i was walking by her office bringing a guy that i knew to meet a modeling agent and she saw me and she said you come in and i we ended up talking and she said what do you want to do i said i'm i'm going to la to be an actress and she said i'll help you i was like okay she became my manager and her ex-husband lived here and part of their you know he they had a child and i lived i rented a room and i paid her the 500 it was part of his like his support or whatever and he was he's a comedian and a talk show host and he's amazing and i he was always traveling and so i lived in this one room in his apartment and off melrose sweets are in melrose sure and i didn't have enough money to go for a coffee and i'm not exaggerating of course okay not even in the least and i just knew that did she start sending you out on auditions or what happened she connected me with an agent and i met an agent and i started auditioning and i started to work acting classes and i started to do acting classes and i got work early on little bits little things here and there extra work here no i never did extra i did extra work when i was really young but no no like like parts like yeah you know little parts here and there how old were you i was i can't move here on my on my almost my 25th birthday okay cool well so you're here for about five years before you got the matrix right yeah i did tv i did like models inc i i did um different you know some canadian stuff because i was canadian so i could go and do canadian stuff quite easily and you know being a canadian actually really helped me to support myself as an actress because i they wouldn't have to deal with that that um canadian issue sure so it actually worked out in my favor who would have known that canada would become so a lot of filming is in vancouver right yeah i actually would work more in toronto very rarely worked in vancouver yeah so that's interesting how it unfolded for me wow what's the biggest lesson that you've learned as an actor that you apply to real life hmm so many i just don't think there's any separation i i look at my self as an actress do i call it actress or actor it doesn't matter sort of whatever i'll be politically correct here no political correct with me i'm like depends on the day sometimes i call myself an actor and other times i call this i don't even know why that is i like that i can be mercurial like that i guess i um jeez louise that's a big biggest lesson you learned it's i mean every day i look at life as an ongoing exploration of my soul and of my things that are in the way what i love about acting is that so often the parts that i get are something that i'm actually working on in my own life in some way shape or form so i look at can you give me an example one let's see maybe from the past we're like oh i'm working on this right now um i mean it can be very subtle it might not even be in the material it might be just a theme an overarching theme of when i think of the character gotcha it's you know maybe i need to be exploring a certain part of myself that i'm not so it's not as literal as that i just went and spoke with some kids at our school because i like to work with the young actors so i was talking to the eighth grade about the play that they're doing they're doing fiddler on the roof and what i love to do for them and what i love about acting is where in your life are you like that and where in your life are you judging that so like one of the kids is playing a guy that could be really judged and we you know we brought in some political figures that are that could be judged and we we we looked at like what's happening in the world right now that we can look at this old old play and bring ref bring modern thinking to and you know whenever we're judging somebody it there's something in there that especially if you're playing it you can't you know if you play someone and you're judging the character you're playing with playing you're you're not getting in to the person right so one of the things that i have always applied in my acting career and i'm actually thinking a lot about it lately as a woman is i would always think when i when i get a job or something that i was part of the wheel right like you have your wheel with the spokes coming out of the wheel like on a bicycle and that my value as an actor was no more important than the craft service than the sound guy then the camera operator the producer the writer all of us it takes all of us we all have these equal pieces that create the function of this wheel and so it's always been very important to me to understand that because sometimes as an actor you get treated so well can be not always very you know probably pretty rarely for most people but i've had that experience where i've been treated so well people bring you a coffee and what do you need and oh can you get me that from my trailer and you know those kinds of things that are pretty um the sound guy doesn't get that treatment right necessarily but i want i always want to remember that that that part of the whole the sound guy isn't doing his job then you're going to suffer the wheel's going to suffer well and it's just holding that we're all creating this we're all creating part of this creative process together we're all making like if you look at the matrix it was this it was this coming together of all of these people that all had such big heart and expertise and passion and drive to create this product unbelievable and it's i love being a part of that i'm a team player i love to be on a team uh i'm not alone i don't want to do it on my own i love collaborating it turns me on to collaborate with people like i need that um i'm not an island on to myself i need that interaction with other people so as an actress i think and then you know then some basic things like with as an actress often you're unemployed so i remember feeling and i feeling like if i needed to know that i was enough regardless of whether i had a job or not so i worked hard at that yeah that was an ongoing it might be a year or two we don't have something right it can be i mean i if you were to look at i have every journal i've ever written in since i was 10 years old i have journals and journals and journals from that apartment on melrose and sweets are saying i am enough wow i am enough i am enough i deserve i deserve success i i worked through all of that really vigorously that was i would wake up in the morning and do my morning pages from the artists way julia cameron's artist way and i would write and get it out and i would apply that and go into an audition my mom was just saying the other day i saw her my brother in london and she was saying how what she was so impressed with when i was younger and auditioning a lot was that i was able to do it and let it go and move on and i remember with an audition yeah like not carrying on to it i got to get this role i always applied to auditions that if it was meant for me then i would get it that if i did the work if i did the preparation that if it was meant for me not like i gotta get it i never had that attitude it was if it was meant for me and if it was part of my journey and if someone else got it it was part of their journey and i trusted that completely and totally great way of looking at it because i think so many people whether it be acting or anything like they go after something a pitch in business they want to get the gig they want to get the client but it may not be the right client you know just like it's not the right job as an actor and it may actually take away from your life if you get that client or the acting gig right it may totally i you make that sports team or whatever it is absolutely trust it how many times did i almost get a job and feel like i wanted it and it not happened to you in the last two years something so much better happened matrix included really i would have if i'd gotten other things that i thought no no just things before that that seemed great i couldn't have imagined the matrix being in my i couldn't have seen that but it was the right time i was uh it was meant to be in that way and it doesn't mean that you don't show up and do the work of course there's work to be done you know success is when opportunity meets preparation i that was one of my founding thing as an actress my acting teacher drilled that into us you don't just show up and think it's just gonna you have to be prepared you've got to do your work you've got to do your homework you've got to be growing and looking at yourself yeah but i want to also do all of that and like have a good life yeah and not be living in insecurity and panic over all of the things i can't control so i've heard i've worked hard at that yeah and now i look back and i don't even necessarily know but i spent years doing that mm-hmm and now i'm not being aware of it but you were you know i was aware i was d i was in it but like now i don't even remember who that was that ever felt that way who who felt i feel different things now but right and sometimes they'll come up and i'll go oh yeah i remember that but really i think awareness and consciousness and having that awakening you almost don't recognize yourself you become new and you can become new in a moment by changing the way you think so i'm doing that dance all day long and i love it i love life in that way yeah when you look yourself in the mirror how often do you look in the mirror not a lot not a lot when you look yourself in the mirror what do you see um sometimes that i'm very tired i really don't i'm not a big mirror person in fact when i did the matrix i had them take all the mirrors out of the uh the part the hotel room there was just mirrors like everywhere really you had to take them out yeah it wasn't really a huge deal sure but it was like too much and i said i'm i said like um this is kind of driving me crazy i have to live here in this hotel room for a year where was it filmed in sydney yeah and i think i covered a few with like cloths and stuff like that i'm not i'm honestly i would love part of what i love about my life i guess is that i don't have to think about that too much except when i'm working and i really even when i'm working i have a friend who's a producer i worked with her a few years ago and she was like you really need to check your hair before you you know i was like i don't want to okay i do care because if it's on a show or something but like there's people that are hired to do that they're doing it for you i i have to trust they're doing their job because i don't want to care i don't want to think about it i mean i know that much energy i just i just can't i want to look healthy and i want my skin to look good i want my eyes to be vibrant i want to feel beautiful from the inside out but to fixate on it oh i can't yeah i just yeah i always even when i was younger and auditioning all the time i'd always just pull my hair back and i wouldn't wear any makeup and that was always my where i felt natural beauty i love it thanks that's where wow that's what i felt most beautiful yeah that was in that place my brother all women are the most beautiful when they have that natural my brother used to say it to me when i was really young you'd always say don't wear makeup it's the best it's the best yeah so a year so you were the filming took a year right it took a year and it was in sydney the whole time um the first one the first one what was that like when you were in the middle of it did you feel like you were onto something you guys were like you're part of something bigger than yourselves like different than other gigs you've done oh it was like this is actually going to impact people are we like who knows still yeah i didn't know really no i just knew it was an inmate i knew that i was having a personal exploration you know facing a lot of fears and dealing with a lot of expansiveness within myself a lot yes and i knew i knew that was happening what was the biggest lesson you learned during that year what didn't i learn right what didn't i learn i couldn't put it into one did you feel like you were worthy of that role in that i guess he didn't really know how big it was going to be but if you knew like this is going to be the biggest movie of the decade or whatever it is that everyone's going to see this did you feel like you were ready for it or you were worthy of it or you were enough for that i don't know if keanu was as big than he was he was pretty huge yeah you know we had this we all were very close and so we spent a lot of time together so i really three are kind of like the whole of us yeah the three of us and then hugo weaving and the directors and spent a lot of time yeah we did going over the vision going over no having dinner talking having conversations a training i mean we trained for four months here in la before we went so i really you know i had this team of the martial art team that taught us who didn't speak any english but who were but they were like masters right they were masters and they they were supporting us completely was that a couple hours a day of training it was all day every day marshall friday yeah it was like the first hour was stretching and then you know the second hour kicking and then then learning your fight and then i'd work out with my pilates trainer and then i'd do my cardio and i was there we were there from like nine to three or four every day it was fun i loved it amazing it was great like being a pro athlete just training i love that yeah i really do i love that i love training for a job it's fun wow it's uh something that i you know it's different now but i look back at that as just really enjoying that time in my life to have to have all that time to train so amazing so we got to really know each other kids then either i didn't i wasn't married i didn't know my husband even i was you're a full-time attorney i think i turned 30 on the day i on the day i screen tested i had like a quite a length lengthly lengthy screen testing process but like on one of the main days i turned 30 and we wrapped it on my 31st birthday the first matrix so it was that entry into 30. and i did feel that i felt a freedom in turning 30 and i remember yeah i laugh now because 30 seems so young but i i remember feeling like the whole world opened up to me literally on my 30th birthday and you know i i thought that way too and i had 30 yeah yeah i really felt that that that awakening that opening of possibility how long did it take when you first heard about the role or the casting happen for this how long it takes from the first time you heard about until you actually got the gig a few weeks like that long but well it was you know i like i think i auditioned for it and the casting director said i think i'm gonna bring you back and i thought really okay like i just didn't in a million years think it's hard to get in there so then i had isn't it funny that the casting director pretty much has all the power right is it that person's vision or is it was a director there she was she was her name is mali finn she's no longer alive and she was a really amazing casting director and she had a vision and she knew them and knew what they wanted gotcha so she brought you know she's bringing me to them and bringing all the other women that wanted it too and so she so i then i met with them with the directors and auditioned for them and then you wait that's the worst right it was okay i didn't every every part of it i felt so grateful that i got to do it another day i remember my agent at the time saying that i may screen test and i screamed and he said well don't get too excited and i said oh no i'm going to get really excited and i remember in that moment thinking he won't be my agent much longer wow because i didn't like that don't get too excited i was like and i and he was he was a great guy and all of that but i remember in the moment thinking uh if i don't celebrate this what the heck am i going to celebrate whether or not i get this or not this is the closest this is like the biggest audition i've ever had in my life that i'm actually possibly screen testing for a warner brothers movie and i really didn't think i would get it but i trusted that if it was meant to be that i would get it and that's what i and it then when i finished the screen testing process which was many days i had to do a fighting audition and you weren't trained at this time no martial arts you just have a fake it you're like well i'd done billy blank's corroboration so you had like some kickboxes well and and the the director said that what they loved about my audition video of my fighting was that they that there'd be like these cuts and every time that they would come back that the martial artist team that i was fighting were padding themselves up because i was actually making contact oh man that's funny and that you know i i didn't know not how not to make contact but the fact that i wasn't afraid to make contact with something that they don't know something that they noticed and so when they when that whole process was done of auditioning because then i had to audition with keanu and i had to do screen tests and all that then he was already chosen yeah and then i had to wait then i waited they had like a week to tell me and on the friday that they were going to tell me they asked for another week and from what i understood nobody wanted me except the directors really no and and i just went about my life and by the time i got the phone call the following friday i pretty much thought it probably wasn't going to happen and my team told me that i got that i can almost remember it like it was yesterday i think i like fell to my knees and cried and got instantly sick i instantly got sick like got a sore throat no like i think i was it was so i was holding so much that i didn't even know i was holding wow and you know called my mom called my best friends and and just was in it wow yeah oh my gosh it's exciting that's incredible you know it's interesting a few things i'm picking up as you said these things is that your agent told you your manager told you not to get excited and when are we supposed to get excited when the thing happens when we achieve the dream so are we not supposed to get excited along the journey along the ups and downs right so you have to it's like we we gotta you know i love this book i was just talking about this the other day the alchemist i don't know if you've read it yes but it's all about the journey you know it's very simple that we forget sometimes and sometimes i get so focused on like the launch of my book or whatever the product or the launch of their movie but the day and day like work is what we should be celebrating right yeah that's what i'm really like the little things each day absolutely your your life the way you live your life it's that we're alive today yeah it's pretty amazing and i think one of the things i've been thinking a lot about you know i create this content for my what i'm what i'm teaching here on online with the fierce grace collective is i teach these different ideas and i i sort of thought about the summer this summer and i thought okay i've got next month's done and maybe i'll do the next couple months like i'll just really get in there yeah but then i i thought no i'm i'm living my life and sharing the process and so there i actually can't apply that model of business to what i'm doing because it would put me into my in into here and what i'm really trying to share is simple ways to live your life from the inside out and so i i'm doing that in order to create it so sometimes it's hard because i have to look at my vacation schedule and my children are going to this and doing that and all of that but but i i was thinking about this today about some of the women that are part of the collector that i have and you know we have like a comment section and how sometimes that can be so distracting and how i really i think that it's i want to take the tools that i'm sharing and that i'm living and put them into my life not stay in my head with them like go out and live them yeah and be applied living it and be an example of that not just the idea of that i remember always thinking like people would be teaching something but they wouldn't necessarily you knew they weren't living their life that way and it never really i didn't ever liked that if i ever caught a glimpse of that and yet somebody told me once that you don't have to be great at something to actually teach it some of the best acting teachers might not be the best actors some of the best relationship therapy therapists might not be able to actually have great relationships i mean you know but for me i'm not doing this to be like an idea of somebody i really want to like reach my hand out and give women who may never have access to this kind of information because of where they live or their family structure these simple tools to elevate their lives because i am so darn grateful that i was led to come to this city and that because of how difficult what i do for work is that i had to dig so deep to have a rich beautiful life because the alternative was not acceptable to me the alternative of of being competitive in the face of envy or all that kind of thinking or not feeling good about myself or beating myself up or being full of anxiety and stress and all that stuff that's not an option for me so i'm so incredibly grateful and so i'm really passing it forward and wanting to give that so what's the program again where can people get it well it's called fierce grace collective is one of the things i offer it's um an annapurna living has lots of is my website and has lots of just storytelling i like to tell stories and i have other people that also write for it too that are sharing stories just about living your life from the inside out and living in a simple way that feels nourishing to yourself and i think one of the big things mythbusters and we all know this but it's like important to remember that nobody else has got it figured out nobody else has got a better life nobody else is just because they might have the nice house and the nice car and the perfect family and don't judge your insides by other people's outsides it's what i've lived by my whole life i remember being a kid we lived in an apartment in a co-op in granville island my mom and i and i went to school where everyone was very wealthy and i commuted there for the drama and the music and i never felt like ashamed of like where i came from like i always felt super proud of my apartment and my friends lived in beautiful mansions and you know i remember that but i never felt less than because of that and i so much of the world is built to make you feel less than if you don't have the things that you that you you know you can buy which is all as we know manipulating us through media to buy and want and want to be into that system that we all don't want to do anymore and i don't want my kids to do it and i don't want my kids to feel like they have to do it and it's like waking up to your life waking up to the truth of the life you have right in front of you and how can you connect better to it and deeper to it and in a way that is nourishing and isn't waiting until the new job the guy the kids because you're gonna get those things and still feel the same ache yeah i mean you're talking i mean not to be like cliche here but you're talking about the matrix you know what i mean it's like when people are like they're stuck in this way of being that they need something to feel a certain way and what do you think is the biggest challenge today for people staying stuck in this energy is it the media is it smartphones today because we didn't have that back in you know 1999 i got my first cell phone actually that's when the matrix came out but it wasn't really a thing then but now people are connected to it non-stop um what is you know what's holding us back the most how can we break free of these things it's very tricky i think technology i have a love-hate relationship with technology i do it helps you get your message out there and helps you connect with so much good women so much goodness in it and yet it's so addictive so addictive so addictive are you on snapchat no okay don't get out of it i wouldn't even know how to do it i probably need to know it though because my children are growing up in this sure they're probably on it let's not go there i think technology is tricky and i think we we have this ability to have to there's so many great things about it but yeah but really having parameters i think i think it's massive addiction that we're dealing with we're an addicted society to so many different things and i think that that what we're looking for what are we looking for on our phones when we're going through instagram checking out this person's thing and then going down the rabbit hole to there to there to there we're looking for connection we're looking for inspiration we're looking for i think connection and so again if we can be connected to ourselves in a way that's deeply meaningful to us that's personal then we might notice when we're doing that and say oh wow i must you know oh gosh i'm really feeling like i could spend hours doing this what am i not taking care of right now what do i need what's that telling me because it's a cycle of it's a slippery slope yeah and you think the best way to figure out what we need is to to meditate and to to connect to ourselves ourselves and you think meditation is a good channel for that i do i do i think that when we can spend time connecting to ourselves away from the ego because the ego's important right the ego there's there's lots of good things but when we are when we think that the ego is who we are and we start making our decisions based on our ego we're in pain we're screwed we're in pain defensive or angry we're resentful that's right so we have not enough right we have to have a glimpse of the truth of our soul that that place we have to have a glimpse of it if we don't have a glimpse of it we don't know and so and the more that i meditate the more i the easier it is for me to get into that energetic space and then i i just think that life flows in a in a way that i'm enjoying so much more i know the difference when i don't meditate versus when i do yeah me too i use headspace right now i've done different types of meditation but i don't know if you've heard of headspace it's an app on your phone the unfortunate thing is you have to have it next to your bed when you're or wherever you're at meditating but it's just ten minute meditations yeah somebody needs it lead you through it guided meditations i like that yeah keeps it keeps me on track you know i don't have to like do it myself and just kind of relax and just go in yeah um but that's cool um i feel like i could talk to you for another couple hours but i want to i want to be uh conscious of our time and i want to ask a few more questions okay that's okay um what's something you've done maybe that a lot of people don't know about that you're really proud of hmm maybe something smaller or something that you haven't really announced to the world or not a big movie or something that you've just done maybe it's a role maybe it's the way you've given back the work you're in well i'm pretty passionate about midwife midwifery and midwives because i had all my babies with midwives and i'm a pretty passionate birth advocate and at the same time i'm passionate about women not feeling like see this is interesting because there's this whole natural birth movement happening or there has been for quite a few years with ricky lake she made that great documentary but what happens is that women start to beat themselves up if they don't have the perfect birth or they don't have the perfect natural birth or they be drunk yeah there's it so we continually perpetuate the reason why we wanted to do it or why we feel this inclination it continues to be sabotaged by the same thinking that took us away from it and so i'm very passionate about families and mothering and advocating for women to know what they want and to understand their journey into becoming a mother is uniquely theirs and it's something that they can't control one of the things i talk a lot about with my friends who are having babies and you know i'm out of that now because most of my friends we've all had our kids but is that it's actually your baby's birth it's not your birth it's actually your baby's birth and even though you're i mean i i gave birth facilitating it right i gave birth three times i i could do it 10 million more times i never felt more more empowered more in tune with my soul with myself i had two of my babies at home i i believe in the power of birth i believe in a woman's body to give birth i believe in all of that and sometimes it doesn't go well and sometimes things happen and so i wish that there was more of a space of that kind of healing for women that that are disappointed with their births because it's your entry into being a mama and yeah and so i'm pretty passionate about that conversation uh what else yeah so that's something that maybe people don't know about me or and you write about this on uh how do i say it annapurna yeah we'll have it all linked up all the other stuff we've talked about i don't know if i even i don't even know if i've talked that much about that on on there where i talk about it is actually in the world meeting somebody i don't even know who within 10 minutes is crying over a c-section that they feel guilty about or feel like they failed or something and or someone who lost a baby and i i'm it's really not something that i actually that annapurna is all that much about but i move through my life in a way that i'm open to having that conversation with with women and sometimes it's a conversation that women have never had or about miscarriages and and [Music] the the sadness that a lot of women have around their birth experiences if this was a a vision board right here and you got to put a few things on it right now for what you see for the rest of your life you've already had an incredible career you've got you know great kids marriage you've done so many good things in the world so far but at the end if this was your board and you were creating it right now what would be just a few things that you'd want to put on there oh something i saw on instagram yesterday [Laughter] i was showing my daughter yesterday my daughter is very crafty she's very creative she is so divinely creative it just blows my mind and she was making this thing and it just was gorgeous okay what would it be your vision right now my vision for the rest of my life oh i wouldn't do that okay for the next five years no i wouldn't do that either no no i do it for right now okay because i i want to be so out of my mind out of the mind the construct of my mind to create my vision and that for me is about staying current to who i am which changes all the time that's true so literally that's true i could be a different person in success one of the things that i do a lot on annapurna living and one of the things people might not know about me too is that i i share a lot about the moon and the cycles of the moon and and like understanding that there's a cycle to things that wow that there's a cycle to life and so one of the things that i've been doing this year that i love is i have like simple altars i have them all over my house super simple nothing fancy no gold buddhas or anything like that sometimes they're a flower and a plant or a picture that one of my children did uh drew for me or a picture of myself at a certain time in my life or an award that i've won or whatever and i on the new moon i change them because and i change my wishes because if i'm really current with my soul then the dream the wish and the dream i had a month ago might not be the same could it still be the same it could be right but i i find that the more in tune that i am with that that it's it's a kind of a mental construct and and probably more a male way of thinking actually you know having a very kind of compartmentalized sort of sure you know for women we're very creative we're we have the potential to have 15 children and most of us most of us never do but we have that potential so whether or not whether or not a woman has had a baby or not she's infinitely creative you know we can have a baby on our hip and be making a meal and on the phone or on the phone organizing this over here tending to somebody's sore knee you know answering a business call i mean we can do that we have that infinite creativity so my board today would have wood it would have a sheepskin on it it would have white curtains and this is what i'm living right now i put my grandmother's curtains in my window her lace curtains in all my windows just the other day and it makes me so incredibly happy to see them and they've been sitting in my closet that i got handed down for my great-grandmother my grandmother but literally that's what my dream board would be it would be about this this feeling of it's not a car that i want i don't there's no car that i want um it's about a sense of feeling in the world that that feels rustic and authentic and natural and happens to have green and happens to have this energy around but there's nothing that i don't want a pair of shoes i don't want a new dress i really don't and that's not to say that i might not see something oh wow i really want that right i'm not a purist in any way but my dreams aren't about that my dreams are about feeling connected to my children truly connected to them and i'm not always at all i and i know when i'm not when i'm in my mind of how it should be and how they should be i want to i want to live a life that feels like it's living and breathing and changing and so that when my children are changing i notice and that i'm showing up in a way that i love and not a nag and not trying to control and judge i i can be controlling judgmental sure in my mind that's reality for me and i go in and out it in and out of it all day and so really my dream board would be that i i would love i could see telling a story i have a story that i want to tell and i see it in it in in some kind of you know film medium and i can see the actors that i'd want in it to be part of that so that's ruminating and then i have to actually put the leg work into making that happen and i trust that i will and it's not a grind and i'm not putting that on myself but i want to move gracefully through my life and enjoy it and enjoy it all and be present to it and when i'm not to remind to to have people around me to remind me or to check in with myself and remind myself that's cool i like it i like that vision it's great okay good um since you don't go to the mirror that much but when you are there if you had to do you have any tattoos in your body i do you do yeah if you had to put one on your forehead that was a word or a saying that was in reverse that when you looked in the mirror you only you could read it so you could see it then what would the word or saying be well i i i'm remembering when i was younger i had next to my mirror i am perfect with my imperfections that was something that as an actress coming into my career that that was my mantra in the mirror so i did have a saying next to my mirror um what would it be on my forehead keep on keeping up there's all these sayings in kundalini yoga and one of them is keep on keeping up another one is when the pressure's on start and the pressure will be off you know vibrate the cosmos and the cosmos shall clear the way like create that vibration in your life and your life will just unfold in that way um recognize the other person is you these are all kundalini yoga sutras for this age that we're living in these are these little tools these little ideas and you know recognize the other person as you like that person you want to judge where am i like that where am i like that cause i show up in my life how does that show up in my life so i definitely have a lot of tools that i have in my tool belt that i'm constantly leaning on that's cool and um so probably would be keep on keeping up because sometimes i feel weary like tired and like overwhelmed well yeah i don't like the word overwhelmed i don't use it okay i choose not to use that word we'll edit that out no it's okay but i really it's like a word that when i start to want to say it i'm not a big fan of that word uh i i have a kind of a good feeling i have a fierceness around feeling victim being a victim that's good and so i don't like as soon as i it's not that i deny that i'll feel have a moment of feeling like i believe they did that to me but nobody can make me feel anyway so i turn that around i i turn things around yeah yeah so i uh yeah keep on keeping up yes sometimes i just feel like oh so what do i do i run the bath i throw in three scoops of epsom salts now i throw in a cup of coconut oil and i get in the bath and even fits for 10 minutes and i look at a magazine that i may have gotten or a book or just something inspiring that i have and i just that 10 minutes and i i give that to myself a lot i give that to myself a lot sometimes twice a day if i have to you know yeah i do that's cool i do it's my like it's my getaway sure what are you most grateful for in your life recently oh my gosh my marriage my partnership my family my husband and i've been married for almost 18 years and i feel like i feel like we're still growing in this way that is so exciting and turns me on and like makes me so excited to be with him and be his partner and and it's imperfect and and i'm so grateful that we've gone through that all of that to be here and to continually grow and change and see in the entertainment world yeah he's a writer and an actor and an amazing guy and an amazing dad and and we disagree on tons of stuff and you know it's like i always thought like these people had these marriages that were like super perfect or that i saw and i remember thinking oh wow i really love what that person has when i was younger then you'd find out that there were all these things that were happening that they weren't showing or telling so i'm i love having like you know my husband is amazing and he's so straight and like straight up with the with the information with me he'll just look at me and go you're spinning you need to stop that's and and and be i and i hear him i'm open to hearing him and that's extraordinary to have someone on your team that can really see who you are and that when you are struggling for me that i can sometimes i'm not open at all i'm just like oh my god i hate you you know i'm not listening to that but i come but i then it's like there's a certain way he communicates with me that i i can see that and it and i do the same for him that's cool yeah so i'm pretty grateful about that right now and and definitely grateful for my career too right now having this resurgence right now of working a lot because i took a lot of time to raise my children so it's exciting to feel creative that's cool yeah that's cool a couple of final questions um before i ask the last couple questions where do you like to connect most online twitter instagram where are you where can people connect and reach out with you or i don't i mean i i have some different things that for annapurna living that we have twitter and we have facebook but i actually don't really interact with that all that much uh instagram i do personally you do i do yeah i don't often comment and get into all that just because it's it's sort of a i don't want to i don't want to leak my energy either there yeah yeah and but i definitely see things and and part of that you know we hashtag within my group of things i'm checking out people's alters that they've made or their children meditating their special space that they bring whatever to but uh yeah and then i have you know i have this fierce grace collective that is this group that i i'm putting a lot of energy into and and share and i'm part of that i do live calls with them once a month and that's for that's for mothers mostly now the mother one is called mother yeah it's different uh but both of those i'm i'm interacting in there i have to be mindful of my energy as you know because we can just give i could be up all night every night writing content and i and sometimes i do there's certain times when i feel really creative like that and i honor that and i get up and i do it but in general i'm i'm finding the balance and finding this is all new to me i created this a couple of years ago and it's been incredibly exciting for me to find this you know that i can creating all the content that i'm creating but also just not burning myself out so that i don't want to do it anymore right yeah it's cool yeah um we'll have it all linked up everything we talked about on the the show notes um okay this is a question that i asked at the end for everyone it's called the three truths okay so it's many years from now for you and uh it's gonna be your last day and you know it's your last day everyone's there you've had everything you've wanted to achieve has happened everything you wanted to create you've created but for some reason all the movies you've done all the articles you've written have been erased and so there's nothing to remember you by physically that people can watch or read and um someone in your family says can you write down here's a piece of paper in a pen can you write down your three truths three things you know to be true from everything you've experienced and learned in the world from acting motherhood marriage whatever it may be um that you think could be the three things if you were to pass three things on for us as lessons what would those things be love is everything be in your life don't look outside of yourself for validation and love and i have to say when i when my kids were little and i was at the height of my career and i would get offered something i would look at my kids and i think at the end of my life will i care that i have another movie on my resume or will i care that i help my babies and i always chose holding my babies wow that's cool well before i asked the flashlight yeah yeah it's just gummy teary there just seems like yesterday you know wow so little and now they're so big so it just goes by so quick i can imagine yeah i mean my mom had four of us wow and she still calls me a baby and i'm 33 and i'm like mom totally you know like i want to tell her like mom come on you're not a maid but at the same time it's like it probably went by so fast for her it does you know being in high school and i'm like how did the last 15 years go by you know when you're really little it goes by so slow and and then all of a sudden it just goes by so quickly and you think i i remember people would always say you better appreciate you know your kids are going to grow up people tell you that used to drive me crazy because i was well i was so present and i i was there i don't have regret in there but it has gone by real quick and i don't think anyone could prepare you i don't know if you'd do it if you knew that if you really had that your tiny little baby could be and it's so great that they're getting bigger and changes you go you know now we're going to movies and doing all that stuff that's different dynamics yeah it's great it's awesome but it's cool but those those beginning those eat those that's very quick well before i ask the final question carrie i want to acknowledge you uh i want to acknowledge you for a lot of things but i'm going to keep it short i want to acknowledge you for your fierceness in going after your dreams because i'm a big believer that our dreams are what matters the most and i think it's so inspiring to know that you went for it and not only did you go for it but you have created such incredible work and your creativity to inspire so many people i mean you are literally a catalyst for so many people especially just with the matrix alone you know what it did for people and i don't think anyone else could have done what you did so your courage to step up to the challenge you know in that situation which was probably foreign to you and really lay your heart on the table that entire time is like such a gift to the world and such a catalyst for so many people so i want to acknowledge you for really your your courage your fierceness your feminine grace as well to be able to stand in the messiness and continue doing it all with the kids with the marriage with the career and just be an example a symbol for what's possible for so many women so thank you i acknowledge you for that yeah thank you the final question is what's your definition of greatness what is my definition of greatness [Music] definition of greatness that's hard i don't really have a i know that it's a big word for you right and it's not a word that i think about greatness or that i'm really i can't even really feel it mm-hmm the word the reason i ask yeah i ask it for everyone because there's a different definition for everyone yes i'm trying to find my way into it yeah for sure because it's different than success for me you know success is a lot of people think about it as like money and achieving things so what's your definition of greatness yeah you know right now my definition is discovering and cultivating the unique talents and gifts within us to pursue our dreams and in that pursuit make the biggest impact on the people around us as possible that's awesome so there's it's not about making money no although you can make money in that process it's not about achieving things but i think it's about using what we're born with to cultivate our talents and gifts and then figure out our dream like you did and and go after that because that that dream is going to create a ripple effect on people yeah when we're in that pursuit yeah even if we never achieve the dream in the pursuit of it inspires other people around us absolutely and i think our world our life is about service you know we're the most fulfilled when we're in service and we were given so much this world was given to us you know we were born and it's like we were we have this playground to live and breathe in so i feel like it's our duty to give back to the world and to everyone else in the world who supported us whether they know it or not yeah so that's my mission yeah i love that i love that you're doing it you're doing it and you're creating it and it's inspiring and helping and healing people and it's amazing i appreciate you hear your story and i was telling you earlier listening to your story and listening to your podcast it's so great because too it's it takes women and men to vote to step up into this space of this sharing from this space of heart yes awareness and consciousness and creativity and to break that old way of thinking that has dominated so many of the things that we've done in our world so it's exciting it's an exciting time to be alive i think greatness for me there we go i'm so good at that greatness for me is the exploration of creating a life from within inside out however that might look for someone and if that means doing something huge and solving something amazing and finding a cure for whatever that's greatness if it means tending to a garden and feeding your family or if it means being a teacher or whatever it is understanding that each of us has an impact on everything that we do and everyone that we come into contact and true greatness is when you understand that and are in flow with that and it's aligned with the values of who you are as a person and your life all flows in that way whether or not you have a job that you love or not but are you can you be the person that shows up at that job and emanates who you who you are and isn't waiting for something else i think that's greatness to live your life that way in alignment with your own values and your own soul and your truth of your of yourself all right right awesome carrier thank you so much i appreciate it pleasure thank you hey guys lewis howes here and thanks so much for checking out this video and this interview i hope you loved it if you did make sure to leave a comment below and share this with your friends also i've got a huge announcement the summit of greatness is coming very soon if you love the 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Length: 82min 31sec (4951 seconds)

Published: Mon May 16 2016