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I have to admit I told a bit of a porky pie earlier I never actually beat Donkey Kong 64 as a kid so to finally put this little [ __ ] to rest I'm going to stream it I'm gonna start the game again I'm gonna get absolutely everything in that game including the rainbow point is to bring everything full circle I don't get absolutely everything all the bananas not the minimum required for 101 percent completion and I'm not gonna stop until it's done all the donations will go to charity so finally some good can come out of Donkey Kong 64 because certainly no fun has come out of it I'd like to say thank you to everyone who donated while I was getting ready because you've basically proven me obsolete what an unexpected amount of people are donating and watching the stream and leaving comments and it's quite hard to keep track of than I thought so I'm just gonna I'm just gonna start there's no stop I just when we get 12 hours in there won't be as many donates so how do I hit start on this and Oakland splits control okay oh can you do it we did it our first collectable we're well on our way there's only about 29 million more to go I hope that like whoever's watching this like after the fact like on a channel somewhere I wonder what context it'll be in like the last 24 hours of h-bombs life and not what I assumed it would be which would be like you know a Streamy did who knows what it will be oh I think I remember this character design oh no someone really wanted to [ __ ] that monkey you know my conservative estimate for like the most I would make this entire 24 hours was about $3,000 and this is obscene and thank you so much on behalf of mermaids who have not made me their official spokesperson yet but they'll come around okay thank you I think I speak on behalf of all trans people when I set out this is an incredible slow walking animation oh my goodness this character [ __ ] kicks ass look at that people say the n64 is bad how could how could it possibly be bad how is that even possible have you have you seen have you seen lanky Kong okay what do we are now 11 wait 11,000 what the [ __ ] shoutout to one of my favorite sub reddits try oh yeah the one we just encountered the weirdest problem ever there weren't enough zeros in a donation goal for it to count that's that is an obscenely wonderful thing you people are being incredibly helpful to this charity and I hope a lot of I hope a lot of British trans kids and non-binary kids get help with it I'm totally fine with the story where a character being gay doesn't come up very often or at all because it's not a big deal but you can't just go in retrospect that happened points points please like you've got to have it be a part of your story world but it's a thing that's normal or something I mean I'm a big fan of aspirational stories where you write the world there's better than ours and why it's better and how it got there because I think that's that's such a really useful way of looking at it but it's it sucks that a lot of people think that the way you do that is you is the same way - oh they were really progressive this is a great episode of insight number 9 that characters voting on who should win who should who should win a like an acting award and everyone's voting on who gets to win and the series of twists and turns of that and one of them is a writer who's trying to convince the director of the thing who's also on the panel to like direct his work and he's like you know you know we there could be all kinds of representation and this I could rewrite any character to be to be gay and stuff like that and it's like [ __ ] is that is that the future of progressive India it's like no one no one votes for that no one wants that yeah not people I guess what people want is people who actually understand the experience being talked about to have a chance to talk about it and express it but yeah yeah you have you have raised almost thirty thousand dollars for like a Kids charity how do you feel about that it's it's not gonna hit me until after I wake up and the day the moment I wake up it'll but I can tell it's gonna be good right now I'm I just want to get that [ __ ] pedestal the last question I think hmmm how the Mumsnet forum the feminism board has like slowly been taken over by turf stuff I'm Graham Linehan and how weird that is that it was like a mom was asking I don't know a whole lot about that but oh yea Mumsnet is just a oh this is the hive of turpitude yeah mums that is just a website for mums that has slowly become a [ __ ] [ __ ] pile of just just like turfs and weirdos like to be fair any like as with something awful any internet for like all forms of online media prioritize a certain kind of discourse and then eventually a certain kind of politics just by Fiat so Mumsnet was doomed to become a regressive reactionary thing where instead of being you know how do I become how do I be a good mother how do i you know let's discuss this incredibly important topic it was doomed to immediately become how do I protect my child from whatever the bad things are and the bad things are inevitably something I perceive to be different or new and it was just it was doomed to become what it was even though like it's the noblest goal possible how do I be a good parent you know I assumed that there was an attempt at a dad's in it and it immediately became you know MRA exactly just Jordan Jordan Pederson endlessly yeah this thing is like dad's rights is a thing like yeah like my parents get the short end of the stick in so many things and that's I've regard that as a feminist issue there's some people like no we bring this up purely to shout down feminists and then you know we go back in I got onto her to chapter 5 of 12 rules for life last night I was reading on the tube with the spine typed up so nobody could see it obviously yes it's the chapter but don't let your children do anything that'll make you dislike them don't make you yelling order your children are are don't let your children do anything that will make you dislike them cause like dad's dark [ __ ] chapter six why is the teenager like that's all of your teenage years yeah that's why in as reward psychology and you can make people do what you want and that's a good basis for social interaction not the achievement of any kind of mutual emotion has any Jordan Peterson stands in the chair I'm aware that I'm oversimplifying it's like Oh banana growls Donkey Kong as we pick up banana rewards this is back in the day when review started with little anecdotes that's kind of an old old-fashioned thing now but open Anna Brown stock as we pick up their fiftieth the banana rewards in the game rich colors shimmering water and hypnotic lighting effects we've been playing for 20 hours and it's it they played it longer than you have so far seems like we've hardly made a dent maybe our nineteen it's amazing we look at our inventory screens and can see that the quest is hardly over according to res calculations we're only 29 percent complete [Music] [Laughter] you got nice to go yet so this this was from 2017 and did discusses a yeah it's I've posts about this on Twitter before but the article itself is about how how they're planning to break up what they call the the LGBTQ alphabet soup oh yes yeah is more you know once once you've got once you've got them all out of the way like individually they're easier to to divide and conquer it's exactly ancient strategy yeah Britain has been very had a lot of fun transphobic stuff going on and it's always kind of it's always been there but like in the last year over the last year so a lot of these new groups have started popping up and and it's all kind of linking back to the the the conservative Christians the hope the movement in the u.s. it's weird yeah it's um it's definitely an old strategy it's it's a thing that's been done before but they always think it's unique like the thing you said like what is in a way we're protecting women by making sure they can't work because that way that means yes that means you know nothing bad happens in the bathrooms of their work is like what are you what are you saying this people on shouldn't have the same rights as other people because it puts them in slightly more danger like the danger doesn't like no one no one is safe it's the bathroom thing doesn't make any sense for your own good yes again ancient what if someone commits a crime like the crime is already illegal like it's not it doesn't make any sense it's it's the part where it's just the the arguments they made about about gay people again is the thing is like the the bathroom thing is the same exactly it just makes it so so blatant I just they are past that fault you came up Oh kind of amusing is this is completely out of nowhere oftentimes Jim will talk about pre-order culture mostly have a go hmm but this what's what's amusing to me is that you know if somebody says rape culture you get it very angry men's rights activist going we don't live in a rape culture you never see anybody angrily tweeting at Jim sterling we don't live in a pre-order cut let's try like it's like you can kind guess the disingenuous nature of the I never said pre-order culture is our take on that by the way no but it's like people can people are obviously taking in the context what you mean it but when people say rape culture they mean they take it deliberately misconstrue none of people be honest none of these people are people whose owner can go you can make an argument they go oh oh I see I had the whole toxic masculinity argument with people in my audience before where it's the you know cuz they think you're saying all masculinity is bad rather than talking about that brand of its that happens to be toxic and yeah at this point make Sani but an honest agreement Jim and Casey what do you make of Catherine full body I don't know oh yeah Catherine is a very complex issue that I'd love someone smarter than these take on go Casey yeah that came out in 2011 I remember hearing about us and the was a trans character and which I believe the issue was that was the game's manual outed her and dead named her which in case means it's like the original name a trans person was given so it's kind of its kind of like it's it's it's that's something that people take issue with and but the game interested me cut my eye initially because that because holy to me at the time was just around the time and I kind of first came out was like they're like as bad as stuff is now there is there was scarcely any trans representation in video games at all and it's kind of like holy crap here's a game that has an actual overtly trans character I want to see this I want to check this out so it's kind of like yeah a lot of a lot of trans people do have issues with the game for understandable reasons but for me in the back of my mind there it's kind of like for so long so I've jumped all over them so even even that's the kind of weird thing for trans people even some very problematic and representation is still representation that that's on people will kind of look kind of grab I think this is it's time to move skeleton crew he's got the skeleton i said get this guy's McGarrett and he was like no I think it's beans I tried to die I went to the edge of the abyss and the Sun Bank finish the work Harris is that mermaid oh hello hi Susie hi Susie nice to meet you my name is Harry hi nice to meet you sorry I'm croaking I'm a pepper I decided because I just woke up and there was this very rude of me I Susie yeah you probably only just found out who I am and I'm really sure what is happening or why and the same is true of me I'm not really certain I did not predict this to happen I woke up because I I had some friends over last night and I was like okay I'm gonna take some time off being CEO of mermaids I'm just gonna get drunk and then woke up to see all these messages about this amazing online gaming that was going on in this donation stream that was coming in them like what the actual really yeah very very pleased and I have now been addicted all day well we have you hear about mermaids like what mission statement yeah okay okay so um we're a support group for children essentially with sort of here to try and make the lives of kids who are struggling with gender dysphoria less hard and that's really a variety of different things that we do in terms we've got a helpline and an email service we've got online forums for young people between 12 and and up to 20 and then we've also got a parent's online forum and a lot of the work that we do is with parents to help parents to support their kids better but we also do a lot of work directly sort of supporting young people so they'll come to us do you know what's going on regarding with regards to the national lottery and we are talking to the lottery they've asked us loads of questions they basically Graham Linehan on Mumsnet obviously kicked off a campaign that meant that lots and lots of emails were sent to their CEO a big loss for Dawn yeah just yeah absolute deluge they just I don't know how many she got but obviously that kicked off a serious think they have to based on a certain level of Correspondence they don't have to review so we were like okay whatever you want to know will tell you so we've been talking to them and answering questions and we are hoping so by the end of the month that we'll have a resolution to this this is probably one of the most incredible things I've seen and to be fair I think from the 17th of December onwards has been a really really difficult time and this has absolutely made my January this absolutely has it's so good and all of my staff who were so sad when this was put under review are just are just buzzing with this you have just absolutely made everybody's everybody's January this is amazing thank you so much that's very supportive if the lottery money doesn't come in then what you know we'll use this money to actually fund posts I think and if and if we get the lottery money then this means that we can we can do more in terms of our facilities and probably hire another person at least and provide more residential weekends so it's it this is a gift honestly this is such a gift but it's not a gift just from the money side but is also a gift from the support side it's just it's just incredible and say it's made my January to see so many people going we believe in mermaids we believe in what mermaids does we believe in trans kids and we believe that they should be supported it's just incredible I have to mention I meet the guy who did the music for this game grant kirkhope I think is tweeted about the stream which is amazing I've said some rude things about rank during the stream but I also think his music is good I think I've insulted him as if he made the game a few times by accident so sorry for that grant but yeah we've we've discovered the the secret depressing thing about charity which is that no charity should actually exist there should already be systems that take care of this and sort this out and people shouldn't have to be this generous in order to you know perpetuate something that does good things it should just be built into the system and as well that's one of my things that I want to happen I want the mermaids not to be needed I've been involved with the charity for like 19 years because I found them when my daughter there was six and spoke to one of the found members and got involved as a parent then became a trustee became chair and then I sort of recognized about five years ago at five six years ago that things are starting to get busier and and trans issues were becoming more visible so we started looking at sort professionalizing so I came on board as the first paid member at the beginning of 2016 by the end of 2016 I then had to help helpline operator manager and a part time trainer and and since then we've we've just grown and grown so it's more oh it's mostly about demand and trying to cope with that demand and make sure that we're ready because as I say you know we've gone from 400 emails and phone calls to sort of 7,000 plus within this year so far and we've not even reach that of the year-end I don't know why it's grown so much but this is something that we're seeing sort of globally and I think my theory is is that as more and more information about trans issues and and being transgender and more and more people are talking I believe and young people feel better able to talk and better able to share who they are and parents are becoming more accepting and likely to listen to their kids so I think it's not that there are more trans people I just think that they're realizing they're not having to face as much hate as they used to you know China trans children and to make everybody that comes to you know telling everybody that you know if a little boy wants to put a dress on that that means that they're trans and and it's just it's just so ludicrous that that we would ever have that sort of input this is just today how can viewers help mermaid's going forwards like what like long term or just even just like how can they help tomorrow how can they help next month six months from now I think one of the things that is really common that people don't even realize how until you start to think about it and recognize it in your day to day life is how common casual transphobia is in terms of calling somebody a [ __ ] or taking the mickey out of somebody or saying oh maybe they used to be a man you know that that's sort of just generally making turns people the butt of a joke and call it out please don't allow that to happen it shouldn't always be the trans person or the family member of trans person who has to stand up the trans people's rights this this is something that everybody should be doing just because it's decent we need to do is after this we'll have like a little bit of a private conversation because what I'd really like to do is to introduce you sir to maybe a couple of the families and the kids oh my good that would be really nice if that's okay with you I love that yeah thank you so much I think that I think I I know that everybody you know on our on our parents my youth channels are watching I know youth groups parents groups are watching this so it'd be really great just work out where you are and then and then sort out you know some some of the few families to get together some well go out for a big deep surface wherever we'll work it out but that's really nice sounds wonderful thank you Wow um so thank you I will say special thank you to KC for doing a lot of the like management without KC's help we wouldn't know that mermaids had found out any of this was happening and cases to most of the like liaison on like half it's been the producer of this and has also hung out for ages while I was asleep and kept everything going thank you so much and just ask a question how did you find out about moments how did this how did we come to PR man of all time you know this has been so massively impactful not just from the point of view that it's you know it's giving us very very much needed funds but it is also raising awareness it's allowing people to know about who we are and what we do and for our kids and our young people who were watching this who are following this it gives them so much reassurance that actually the world can be a better place and that is invaluable I can't tell you how much that means it means a lot to me that you're that you came on to say that thank you so much no thank you thank you so much and good luck and I will be following but I am gonna go in over mouth Wow is that real did I copy-paste that wrong yeah tofu's sooner than you think it is did we yeah tofu's coming right now yeah ah sorry no no it's actually like the whole time I've been kind of coasting on firing brain stuff waves to like not really looked at the number but it's dawned on me that we've raised 75 thousand and it's it's just we have rave like seventy seventy six thousand dollars now almost for like a for a children's charity that's what you've done the last 27 hours and we all have [ __ ] to thank somebody pictures don't become with the trailer park oh boy did you feel such power and you use it for such good things chained myself brittle yeah that I don't I don't know how to affect sincerity into my voice anymore I do apologize for that no III get what you kind for thank you it's okay that the emotions have come back in now had been replaced another remembers to go Ellen Marie off she's the founder of transgender north northern ireland's and singers but things like this are so important for instilling hope in trans young people there are often so few sources of that these days so seeing thousands of people supporting you it is incredible thank you from the bottom of my heart to every single person you're gonna make me cry again and but seriously thank you you know all of this I had no idea this would happen it's a little hard to keep on top of all the message is coming yeah thank you for keeping on top of them Casey it's been it's been good having someone do that clearly this what this signals to me is that there is a lot of love and support out there and it just hasn't been tapped because everyone's kept quiet by just utter nonsense all day like honestly on on like a very serious note like seeing that number keep increasing over the last day like I've been working so I haven't really been able to be part of everything but like watching that number continue to increase it just makes me feel more and more and more confident with just like the fact that people are out there actually supporting people which is amazing because like so often it feels like you know in the real world you know everyone just as super against you so I think is gonna make a lot of trans people feel a lot more safe in the world and that makes it incredibly valuable so thanks h-bonds you shouldn't be being everyone else did everyone else gave this money to mermaids I didn't I think it is it is always a little staggering for like this is people of liberal Twitter to really get a grasp on just like the the negativity antipathy that that trans people have to deal with on the day to day so you know it's you know it's like it's sad that we even have to do this but at the same time that we can do it if no way that is you know like fun and like has a good you know people feel like there's a real community and like a strength to it and that like people like unlimited kind of and Yuen Li like I'm not gonna say harmless but hmm nowhere near as power yeah they are [ __ ] themselves realizing that thousands of people are laughing at them for being utterly mean yes silver lining that this man is comically just in a pudgy you know he's tweeting at you on the street and thinking obviously the Sweeting supreme no I did not yeah I named him now yeah he was he found yeah I don't know why he found might he started tweeting at me can I think because it makes me the good guy it's probably because I'm verified I will bet you anything it's because I'm verified yeah no I blocked that it a long time ago he's never gonna bother me no I just want to throw out one thing too is like supporting like a direct cause like this is really really cool but like nothing compares to like supporting your local trans person like if you know somebody who's trans be there for them talk to help them listen to them like help them I don't mean platform over here but like no go ahead P really like direct support is easily the best and like monetary support rules but like you hang out with them like beep go places with them like you have no idea how important it is to like bring the numbers and [ __ ] like that like that needs to happen so 10,000 people make trans friends help them you probably already friends with a trans person I just haven't told you yet yeah so I mean I feel like they could kind of use yeah yeah for like seven years because I didn't feel safe and like if someone would have made me feel safe I don't know where I would be today so I feel like you be someone would feel safe around like do that anyway I think no I think it's really good of you to highlight that and I appreciate it yeah because we've raised yeah we've raised a lot of money for one charity it's easy for us to celebrate that and be happy about that but there are a lot of people who do need help and it's important that they get it and we should we should foreground that so thank you very much me absolutely so yeah don't just your support isn't your support quota for your life isn't done if you gave money to this stream if you give support some people who you know be friends of them you know you can just make those working with people and hang out like assisting normally you can just you know the people did you know don't be like a friend chase I've got a couple of note cats to burn follows my friend quarters like I'm doing well with blacks I got a check list upon my transplants a black trans so I can knock oh it's trending is it we got it it's it's trending is trending thank you we are still donating trendsetters this is amazing Kirk Kirk cope says yes Wow yeah when maybe he can go to sleep and when he wakes up we'll probably still be going yes speaking what is this intruded into my my tits grant kirkhope that's why ugh ah oh wow you so much you basically wrote the soundtrack to a large portion of my childhood Baath because I just played sixty-four collective Thon's as a kid and because I had no taste as an adult I didn't listen to real music I just listened to game soundtracks so thank you such a long time that you were all kids when I would throw out their star T that's why it's it's amazing getting to meet you this is the weirdest like this is the weirdest possible context in which to meet someone $100,000 and 30 hours deep into a charity stream of a game they were played DK for the whole time I took it I took it sleep for about six to eight hours at one point but no otherwise it's not stopped there's so many yeah could you do my truck a tremendous favor and could you say trans rights in dk's voice so again justice trans rights in the Donkey Kong's voice well voices like it isn't me but each pitch down oh no I can't do it Don rights okay and then it turned down is that close enough that's excellent well someone you have someone in chat pitch that down making you clip that can be played the most euphoric moment of your life I never heard the phrase gender euphoria before that's such a thank you for sharing with really yeah yeah I've never really realized that there was a like oh that was a good bit [Laughter] sometimes yeah teaching things now I really have a lot to teach people Thanks yeah you know this is all a learning experience to me I I know very little about about it I just I know that I need one Supporter variance that we're also going through is learning how much a man can take before he finally just goes crazy yeah I'm learning things about myself too but logically buttons issues and it's just like oh my god everything is happening all at once what is going on and like it just overwhelming to you for a little while and you're just like wait what do I do now I have no idea what's happening oh yeah like I it's funny cuz like I admit it to myself and then a day passed and I realized I wasn't feeling is this for a game or like oh I guess I'm not anymore oh well and then three days past no my phone get its back he was trying to say something yeah I got a little message from Kinley Mochrie oh wow you think she said that she was watching the stream was glad to hear my voice and Justin donated thank you that's Maggie's here Wow did Maggie Mae fish produces and you also did something before that that I forgot where is or was it was cracked right it was so incoherent by this point yeah basically I'm trying to someone said a name I just addressed them as if they were here let's say hello to Alexandra Kelsey Cortez who's right here I think he worked for cracked calm this is Susie I just wanted just to pop on and just say how incredible this is cannot believe it yeah me neither and thank you for coming back on Susie in at 4:30 a.m. I'm just watching it on both on Twitter and obviously online here and and it's just I think this is the best thing I've ever seen honestly just the best thing ever it's it's it's very encouraging but I'm in a hell of my own making right now and it's so that's very good to hear but my thank you for coming back on no it's really I just I just wanted to sort of pass on I've had some messages from one of the one of our mums said that her seven-year-old has been watching you and and is now but a newfound love of Donkey Kong but she's done seven she's a trans girl she's seen some of the negative stuff that's out there and she's she's she's so excited about watching you and it's a new devotee so well yeah I've seen kind of under here yeah I mean and one of them one of our volunteers is also sort of staying up all night and watching you and he said he just wanted to just say to you how amazing this all is and and so many so many people and I've heard a couple of families private mums private message me and say in a volunteers per one of them one of the moms her son is watching I don't know if they're still watching now but said you know they would absolutely love to be come along for pizza and and we might stand you a few beers as well that'd be nice I'm gonna head back off again now but just yeah just give you sort of like a little bit of an idea I think this is the biggest thing the community has seen and I think that there is likely to be sort of like TV interest in this tomorrow because it is trending on all channels oh my goodness yeah so I hope so back written on my forehead thank you for all the important work that you're doing is like yes thank you for coming on thank you for the work you you know this for me as it is but like all of my staff and that and the team of volunteers and for our trustees who who sort of give us all their time for free this is something that we do because it's the right thing to do it's the right thing to do because everybody deserves to be themselves and to be free to be themselves without fear and all those people were always there and they were waiting for the opportunity and I happen to have been the person who did it but it's not of it as me all these people were always there and you've given them a platform and you've given this it's such a bizarre just I want to say thank you for the work you do and for just everything and I hope you have a really good year anyway I am gonna duck off now and I'm gonna try and get a few more hours sleep and I know that probably is torturous for you to hear where your son oh yeah I'll see you I'll see you on the other side I will be back in again a little bit later on say hello but keep going get down in that pit keep going and then I'll speak to you soon mmm thank you bye okay to make them go perpendicular to the pit which is its what how disgusting is this if there's an obvious hole you have to do all of this [ __ ] this is a metaphor for the trans discourse in Britain we've just just yeah you can lead a beaver to a hole you can't make it go in just can't make people listen so you're chasing little cleaners around you've got a bark out yet getting whole DRAM just heard a couple things somebody mentioned Terry Crews what I don't know if that means that Terry's is tweeting about this but there's a lot of worried about that just in general thing is apparently Chelsea Manning has been invited Oh Elsie is here update is here what what cementing rules Chelsea Manning is here what that's the way for a second and Chelsea Manning is in my discord server what is happening okay there's a question I've been meaning to ask Chelsea for three years ever since I saw a play about what she did and I need to ask her Chelsea do you know how to beat beaver bother [Laughter] it's chosen it's wonderful to meet you would you like to introduce yourself to the string it's nice to meet you Chelsea Chelsea I fair enough how are things I'm gay I just I got enough enough people have like painted me about weight about this thing okay incredible so now I guess it's like trending on Twitter so yeah how did that happen how did any of this happen I mean your YouTube spree awesome so I'm really I'm it's I suspected maybe you'd seen my videos but I could never really be sure and now I know and that's you and yeah yeah yeah Chelsea with that my name is May I just wanted to tell you that I really respect to you and you've done a lot cool that's all thanks I try yeah you're really wonderful and hello it hello nice to meet you Jorge the dragon please don't say anything rude you're alive in front of 11,000 people yeah I I have your stream pulled up Wow okay so view so try to avoid jumping most of the time okay I heard them into sort of the shape that you see there okay and once you have them at like a 60 degree angle you want to mash be okay I shouldn't be pressing B while they're running around near the hole I should just be pressing it to herd them in uh well like herd them close to the hole and then once they're next to it only do it when it's sixty degrees okay well went down we're getting closer yeah yeah anyway I'm gonna go back in the shadows but I'm gonna keep watching good luck not to jump as much try not to mash B press B only when it's necessary you got this I believe I thank you very much I really really appreciate everything you've said I'll also be here so I'll be watching okay there's two of them yeah this is this is Zack the editor that was appearing in your chat stream earlier and I got two tips for you that I don't think anyone else has said so you ready yep okay first of all hold on a second hold on hold on sorry I interrupted one of you with seemed like they had something to say but my my tips are no longer necessary so I just wanted to say hey this is AK Ford I write about LGBTQ politics over in the US you're doing a great thing congrats on beating be there beaver bother because it's the most amazing accomplishment that witch will see you sometime thank you there was just a three thousand dollar donation what a who someone just went to the top of the donation box yeah wisk congratulations Congrats on finally beating beaver bother despite doing what a countess for trans rights I've struggled with subconscious transphobia and it shames me hearing from so many trans people on your stream has been really helpful thank you thank you thank you and oh now thank you we all know worse through that stage including people who like a lot of people who eventually come out as trans go through a stage of not understanding it and being honest and open about those feelings is really good of you and especially to do it while giving I especially do it in the middle of a message in front of thousands people that's pretty bold and plus I mean you just gave $3,000 it's you know the balance is a little what hi Chelsea oh my god it's happening I just wanted to let folks I just wanted to say some things about car door real fast oh my god so so kartaa is an incredible human being who actually got me through some of the worst parts of the last two years of my life shame really in some really intense like really emotional moments like really helped me through some dark times and you know I don't know how I would have got through the last year it wasn't Ricarda you know cart cart it like I I I look I love you so much Carta and thank you so much for really saving my life it's the Christ stream now no no but like like Carteret like you really did like you you literally saved my life so pretty incredible oh my god I love you oh because you really really helped me and I love your I love your I work so much and you know like I I'm a I'm a huge Stan and a huge fangirl of carta you know like you should really check out her comics because they're they're like she's she's easily one of my favorite trans artists of all time for several years when I was in questioning and going through a lot of my own problems you you were somebody who just like your existence and the fact that you were still alive and still pushing through helped me to just keep pushing through so thank you so much for for being for being around for being here yeah well I mean you know Carter Carter did the same for me in many ways so you know it's a circle it's like that like what trans community like really beams on and depends on each other and it doesn't matter how you know who you are or like how far away you are or anything like that like we're always here for each other it's been you know it's it's like the trans community is like the transplant it's like a transplant it's like a gigantic tram blown away by how to me anyway like I just I just wanted to give a shout out to the card up and you know like let her let her have her little moment to be fascinating is if h-bomb isn't bad we've got too many people good like two hours ago why are people giving what what are you doing what we love you Horace and we really we might have we might have a Alexandra kzo Cortes joining according to someone in the chat or Nothing someone in the chat someone in the discourse that's not real that's not true you made that oh no no joke Chelsea Chelsea was gonna try and get Ocasio Cortez in the chat and now she's asking is is is is Casey you a wizard he's a promoting genius how much is left it's been 48 hours the can't possibly be that much left there is thousand people were watching the silence there is four percent more than I hoped there would be and I'm not happy about this Ellen Murray from transgender and I here to talk about some fun stuff oh hello good evening yes I was in the in the chat since it went silent so if it stroking my cap since then hi my name is Ella Murray I'm trans activist from Northern Ireland I also do some stuff on disability rights and I'm sitting here from Belfast in Northern Ireland I think the most interesting thing that's happened today has been my cat's Twitter fault notifications are full of turfs right now it's very odd so Ellen could you tell us a little bit about what transgender and I do yeah so we're actually also being a argumentation but the folks if and doing the work of in a run for quite a while I've been involved in trans rights stuff for about six years now full time came Ida's trans in 2013 2013 was a bad year but they've got better since then and a lots happened but the long story short is we run trans community centre in Belfast survived two miles somewhere around at the moment so we provide a space and resources and stuff for young people turns out alts family members we don't have a lot of the same sort of turf nonsense in on the island of Ireland GB anyone's gotten the wheels we're lucky in that way feminism and women's rights here is it takes more of a post-colonial stance and organizes in different ways so there's been a few reasons why I would haven't had that over here yeah but it's yeah I think you say about post colonial censuses is interesting because I think I'm in the US and the UK especially the brand of feminism that's become the most mainstream is is kind of that all the kind of that of the ruling class effectively like it's not kept in mind that you know there was a system that caused a lot of this stuff yeah it's just kind of gone it's the same but you know moderately more further forward and it's not really very much more women prison guard yeah it literally yeah that feminism here can be very beautiful it tends to be really sex work inclusive on the whole intensity really trying to close for the to get invited to to be involved with everything yeah it's just really it's such a difference to the things that would see folks and especially in England's having closer at the moment it's so so damaging it's so so damaging and you see the folks my colleagues who work in England especially here I don't know how to deal with it the fallout every single that Twitter public media and the newspapers especially it's the 30 thick skins yeah you think very good at this by the way I'm very impressive thank you I'm almost surpassing that of a child I've been trying to big crash team racing all day and so did got a car which was the old PlayStation man yeah I don't have the hardware on hello my name is Michelle O'Toole I'm a journalist done somewhere from pink used in New Statesman and put other places I currently do a podcast called what the trans you can check out where a podcast us and Lepidus and done yeah that's I'm pretty much here just to talk about like some benefits issues that is fortunately face trans people it's like if you let me get if you let me I don't know what I'm doing here this is a very very surreal experience hello Chelsea Manning hey what's that hi very nice to meet you I've been researching you for about two weeks as I was gonna do like a special on like your life and stuff so it's very surreal to actually have a chance to talk to you oh yeah by I mean I've got like some trans friends who aren't really into gaming I've no idea what twitch was or currently now watching by that's how big of a thing it is like they don't understand what donkey on 64 is they don't understand how any of this works but they're here yeah my I've recently yeah it's worth it's for a certain generation it's not necessarily something that everyone understands but having extremely on Twitter non-stop for a while I've I've I've become very intimately aware of it but it's yeah thirty thousand people watching this oh geez oh no so I was going to ask what what the trans podcast I wanted to talk about how benefits are disproportionately hurting trans people than you right there this is my pet issue I just did a whole episode on it right basically it's all starred one was working as a journalist and you know I done your boy came out and all that stuff you know mm-hmm and then I had to go through it like twice and it was the actual assessments themselves like people that don't know if you claim benefits in the UK for disabilities and what have you you have to go through this horrific test it's called the work capability assessment test and it is particularly bad for like anyone by exists trans whatever but as a transgender woman it they it was uniquely challenging because they don't really have any questions on the forms for like why are you why do you have depression why do you have anxiety and you get into explain I was because I came out as trans and things were a bit of a nightmare for a while or whatever we don't really get a chance to explain that it's basically all points you've got a score so amount of points to get the benefits but yada yada yada the long story cuts sure it's a horrific process that is more disproportionately likely to affect trans people by a long way because trans people are a whole them or more likely to be mentally disabled not because they are transient because of the things that get thrown at trans people in life like you know like seven a plane and a recent report those seven out of ten trans people report of the day suffered oppression and stuff like that with the NHS not getting enough money it's a whole massive [ __ ] that is sort of laying out like a whole generation of trans people hmm that's they're not getting the help they need yeah so I guess I wanted to come on here just to say like to people like if this has happened to you or this is going to happen to you or you know someone's have whose how'd it happen to you there's a few things you can do you can write your MP go scream at your MP I know they're all busy doing brexit bollocks but this though you asked all their constituents they've got to listen to what you say you can go check out mind they were pretty good to me as an advice bureau they really helped me a lot with filling in the forms and stuff but you get this ridiculous fifty page form it's a nightmare like I'm mostly myself suffer from an anxiety disorder that meant that bureaucracy was not missus a bureaucracy that had my ability to pay rent on the line wasn't exactly what I needed to do if you know I mean it's a bit of a weird one so yeah you can also reach out to community if it is something's going to happen to you because yeah people out there people community how glass he emailed oli from philosophy tube in the middle of the night just like oli this is happening you got any book recommendations I don't know what I was thinking and even back with a few books and stuff and news really nice but yeah reach out to people if this is going to happen to you and yeah it's a really big issue just facing the trans community and it's not necessary getting talked about because you know fucknuts like that dick biscuit gremlin and taking away all of like the all the attention yeah it's so much attention is paid to just keeping up with the latest thing that he'd said because that is damaging enough because he commands a very large audience that will do what he says it kind of does get in the way of the the bit where something has to actually be done you know in a wider way you have all here so would you like to introduce hello sure can everybody hear me we can hear you okay perfect hi I'm al I non-binary actors from from Iceland but I'm living in the UK now and I co run the film project my generation and I am also a big supporter of mermaids and really happy to be here and see the stream happening I think it's really really really really cool and I don't I don't think we've had many number non-binary people on so this is some time somebody to talk Thanks is there anything you'd like to tell people um sure I mean I can just talk about I guess not everybody is familiar with what non-binary is and for me it sort of means living outside these sort of traditional traditional boxes of what it is to be a man and a woman and I think for a lot of people that seems quite often that seems quite strange because we live in such a binary society where everybody you know has to be a man or a woman so when somebody says actually I'm not people get quite uncomfortable and I think there's a lot of misconceptions about what it is to be non-binary and I've seen that a lot on on these sort of forums and chats where people are a bit confused as to what non-binary means and they think it means this denouncing stereotypes and not wanting to be you know a stereotypical woman or a stereotypical man but it's about something much more deeper than that and I think for non-binary people it's a gender identity in itself just as being a man or a woman and you know a lot of people have a hard time grasping it and it's difficult for many people to understand but I think in the end we can only speak from our own experiences and I think you don't necessarily have to understand or realize what it's like it's just an experience that that people have individually and you can't really know what anyone else feels like you can only know what you feel like and I think people need to sort of let go of this idea that you can relate to someone 100% and if you can't then it's not real yeah yeah and it always strikes me how bothers people are about something that doesn't affect them in any possible way yeah because the only thing you know people being themselves as long as they're not harming anyone else shouldn't matter and it shouldn't be a matter of anyone's opinion because everybody's like well you know it's my opinion that you're a man or you're a woman well nobody cares about your opinion really because it's not an opinion hmm I remember like this was when I was quite young the first time I ever got drunk I think I would have been like 14 15 I asked my one lesbian friend what it was like to be gay because I hadn't come to terms with my own stuff then and she said I don't know what's it like to be straight and I went oh like I needed that and that was like a big experience that affected that I think about that I was like oh my experience no one else is ever gonna get either unless I get older and more weird as all people inevitably do that's and that's the gap sorry gotta widen and the only solution to that is to be like understanding that that's okay people are gonna people are gonna be very different there's a lot of Islamic queer history but a lot of it got erased due to colonialism and due to those Western conceptions of gender and proper ways to express yourself introduce yourself Riley hi hello I'm rarely doing this I make videos on YouTube about a bunch of stuff politics feminism sometimes trans stuff I mean what like I remember a few like a few weeks ago or might even be months ago like you put out that that like marine tweet oh my god I'm not yeah it was just a brain Blasi Ford was braver than any US Marine and then for like weeks I just got like threats and stuff from Marines and I was like oh yes you are really convincing me that you are good people yeah exactly yeah I will threaten you to show how great I am I just want to tell you like how you know you're you're an incredible person and I've been watching you for this whole time and you just you just Sparkle like every single time that you're you know attacked or harassed him and you face up to it and you're just you just never stop you know gleaming with your positivity and it's it's been very inspiring for me I wish I shouldn't I genuinely expected this to make $10,000 when I first heard of it but oh my god well it's just so heartwarming I mean like I think we evolved struggled in this life and just to know that there's that many people out there fully in support of everything it's it's just it's so nice and to use a platform you know like this that has been you know in the especially in that post gamergate era it's just you know it's really powerful to like use you use the platform for good people can do good things not all people play video games have to be raging misogynist now so for a very long time there's a spot here where you rise up above the ground for unknown reasons and it's because many it's because someone put a rainbow coming here oh right that's the hit that's the nobody found it for years right yeah this is the nine hundred seventy seventh coin in the game and no one would exist for twenty years it was found by Tyson Taj and the game's code real trooper I have a question for you guys if you wanted to like I think that's on my mind is I I like to think about like stuff that you think like the media that you enjoyed as a kid maybe not Donkey Kong 64 but other maybe who knows like media you enjoyed as a kid that you reflect back on and you realize like spoke to you as a trans person if the trans people in the in the chat feel strongly about that oh that's that's a great question mine was Rainbow Brite that was that was my Jam's my fantasy 7 especially whenever cloud changes and where's the women's clothes and I thought that a couple times now yeah I would you leave her when my sister was watching cartoons women's cartoons like Carl's cartoons I would linger a bit too long and I realize why he as a sis man I found the media that spoke to me most when I was a kid was all of it and it was the best you know but what I mean is it's all for me yes it's all for me every banana the yeah but it's it's it's really interesting to me to hear those those things that that spoke to people that I I wouldn't have even thought of in in those stories that I read as a kid Jacob said about sort of the transness turning out to to be there instead of a general sort of misanthropy or or or dislike of life or whatever that comes up for a whole lot where that's the thing I've seen said a lot is just people discover the the the actual thing is that their trends almost as if it's real you know one of my best friend's was a very depressive person until like one day they figured it out and like it's I don't know that's the thing that annoys me is when people say well how do you know you're trans and not it's not just something else and the only answer I can give as its this person is they do seem to know it is pretty clear it seems yeah that's all I can really say about it i'm literally finding my way through and i don't even know what discord is but I do know great welcome to a good I think you can hear me alright cuz I hear myself if you could turn yourself up very slightly that would be ideal how's that it's not better that's great yeah good good okay it's going through a professional system here silver you do sound good thank you good yeah I just thought I'd come on and see yeah what an incredible thing you're doing for mermaids and and actually for the community as a whole because my goodness it's it's an incredibly uniting point for everyone that they're just being in there in the actual chat on twitch they're just watching everyone but it's like I can't keep up with the job there's so many people oh I I try you know I was just I was a big fan of the IT crowd a long time ago and I'm very I was very disappointed in that one episode and it went downhill from there so quickly and yeah and he seems to be getting worse as well he seems to be getting worse it's like mmm as you see it don't heal I think is the best week yeah the less of a career he has the less of a career he has to lose so it's just it's almost suicidal what's he doing no thank you all right comedy he said it many times he believes that he is he's standing up for the rights of women who are perfectly capable of standing up for themselves incidentally but they're the shear notion that he has somehow the rider on the white steed who's going to come to the restaurant of all the silenced women of the world and and bring order and and peace upon the land is is quite beyond me and because all these dudes making a laughingstock himself and the thing is people will never forget what he's doing now this is something that will follow him probably for the rest of his life and I feel a bit sorry for him what's going on no keep talking I'm just arranging for everyone else who doesn't maybe know what I do I'm I'm an actress on Hollyoaks on which is a British television soap and what we do is we have a lot of LGBT storylines of P+ story owns especially as well it's probably the most friendly soap on television and it's all primarily at least 16 to 25 age bracket and I place Sally a trans woman who is the headmistress of the school and I've been in it now for three and a half years and in that time I've become a patron of a few organizations including mermaids myself along with Jake Graff and Hannah Winterbourne we do pretty much everything we can for mermaids because it's something we really really believe in I'm quite old I'm in my 50s now believe it or not but I transitioned when I was in my early 20s so I'm like long in the tooth one and now trying to give back to try and help the younger generation not to have to go through what I went through so when did this what I saw this on my timeline that this incredible thing was happening I was so impressed with what you were doing because there's such a small organization and they need every single penny and this will make a massive difference to what they're doing especially considering that poor Suzy the CEO is having to deal with the most incredible onslaught from the likes of mr. lennihan acolytes and and all of Mumsnet and all of his Twitter followers yet it's but best thing best best thing best-case scenario we raise all this money and they get the lottery like I said when I started it on Hollyoaks in 2015 I wrote an article for gay Times saying hey there's a world much better for trans people and then a year later we were like the demons of the world thanks to the fact they moved on to that so we have this issue of of the GRE Act and the consultation they're open what you're seeing there about reading things they put up this thing on their websites going oh here you go you can fill in this form and we've done all the work for you so the people in the consultation are going to have boxes of responses which are absolutely identical and they'll take them and they'll go well this is obviously just a a four it's a form of a form later we'll just Chuck's at home you know can't win by doing that they have to provide a reasonable explanation or a reasonable argument and that's what they can't do because it's based on mal logic and we're just fighting against I think public opinion at the moment trying to stop the nonsense getting out there yeah I I've looked into you know I obviously am they do obviously look into this stuff before I decide to do a thing for the charity in like it's all not just baseless but the thing that really got to me was on purpose baseless it was they were looking for anything where they could go you know aha yeah it's it's very common in in basically any field where somebody wants to bring somebody else down to bring themselves up to just latch on to a tiny inconsistency or error on the part of a group and and then you report on that part of it honestly and factually and then you editorially on top of that yeah you don't make a differentiation between the editorial ISM I'm not gonna name any specific names because I don't want to start any controversies but I've seen a couple times this year in the YouTube space and the anime space people taking something that's like well meaning with mistakes around it and saying this is this is a scam they're trying to they're trying to do all this evil stuff and they're trying to trick you to raise up people's anger so that they don't think yeah so that was what like mermaids were trying to help a child who unrelated lee was also part of a custody battle and then you know that they each each parrot had a different different set of beliefs about the kids transness and then when the custody battle was resolved in favor of the father instead of the mother all of a sudden mermaids is like it's mermaids his fault and they were trying to steal the child like this made-up nonsense I know a bit about that case and obviously there's a certain amount it can be said and can't be said yet the the judge has been absolutely pilloried other things that he was seeing particularly in connection with mermaids and and what the mother was trying to do and but the bottom line that there is a child no but is living with their transphobic parent was a trans child who is currently being forced to be not the gender that they you know they are and that's abuse in itself and but we can't do anything about it because if the judge made a rule and that that situation is now in a spec we can't change that and that's the way to see what happens to that poor child like well honey yeah I mean it's someone has said this before Graham Linehan would rather that trans people or the children commit suicide than grow up trans and I didn't want to believe it was that straightforward when I read it but it basically is and well we just know he doesn't believe the statistics because people have told him the statistics are wrong and he believes them rather than trans people but the statistics are there by several accounts but I still more by memorize themselves by various other studies about the very great rain danger to to young people and at the moment there is only mermaids out there and even the Tavistock clinic to have his token Portman in London who is supposed to be the only treatment center for trans youth they have got people on their on their staff list who are letting books into the library of saying that you know or maybe trance is wrong in things like this so they're what they're doing is they're not just um allowing the child to find themselves they're actually actively this weird in them from being chance and that that's that's a form of conversion therapy so you've got the one clinic that's supposed to help the kids and what they're doing is the opposite and and again the powerlessness is the most frustrating things so you have mermaids and it's the only organization in this country who are determined to help children and their families come to a mutually counseled agreement about how to go forward yeah we had Susie on there telling in a really good story and I think everyone was on the stream of that poem was fighting not to cry especially me because I was I was playing to be the bother which is the hardest part of this game you have to scare some animals into a hole III imagined they were Graham Linehan and that that made it it was Suzie's doing a wonderful difficult job and I really hope that I really hope that they can do some good she was she was doing a difficult job when she took it on when it was looking after kids and you know fundraising and that now what she's doing is she's she's firefighting all the time she's she's having to put up with and defend her own daughter and her own treatment of her daughter and everything like that everything that it's in the media about it gets twisted so she's having to do all that until everything else I'm quite stunned at the the courage and the strength of this woman and knowing her as I do I really hope that she's sir it's getting as much help as she needs as much as anything else it's a lot to go through yeah sorry can I just stop everybody for a moment I shall found somebody very special who've joined us today give some words I'm not sure this microphone working right now but John can you so Preston you John I'm a big big fan of most of what I did is I just want to say trans rights yeah fucking-a excellent we did it but now we can stop the street oh this happened thank you John well you saved the day lah was the that that's worth noting holy crap wow this is one of the most positive evenings I've had but listen I'm gonna head off cuz I'm got to get to bed go to work tomorrow oh you so much for letting me in thanks I'm gonna get back to work and good luck have an excellent day evening whatever it is Cheers nice really nice and I want to give a big shout out to Brenda Romero as well for making this happen nice thank you so much well thank you I need a minute I've just been informed I've just been forming the last dream has been retweeted by Cher yeah I saw that you know yeah well yes Bono is trans great just a personal personal message from me to you please try to destroy more charities mm-hmm only good appears to come of it thanks Graham and [ __ ] you do you think he would he ever would have foreseen us be being getting dunked on by John Romero the creator of Doom one of his favorite games came on stream to yell trans rights yeah hello hello how's it going ice all right I'm Elodie Cunningham I am a trans hello hello welcome ID youtube and stuff and I kind of wanted to come on mostly because I wanted to say thank you to my mates because when I was 18 they kind of saved me from killing myself so like well when I I phoned them up when I was in a really bad time when I was in University and I just hours and hours just on the line with one single person and they just were absolutely amazing and I went back to a few times and it just absolutely saved my life so I just I just really wanted to say a massive thank you to them and also thank you to you guys and the whole stream and everything because this has been amazing I just want to give you a big [ __ ] hug right now it means a lot that you came on this is a this whole stream has been a lot it's got a you to tweet also who saw wow yeah I you see tweeted about the stream yeah I should probably cover my armpits sorry before you go I just wanted to say it thank you for coming on and hanging out thanks for thanks for chatting it's been great alexandria has retweeted oh my god oh my god yes sir alexandria okay yeah Cortez has joined the discord server what no this is a trick they're not real it can't no it's good she's got the official posing in front of the flag proposing you know front of the background like official photoshoot [ __ ] Oh how's it been going dad it's been going alright we've been working hard behind behind the scenes to keep things running as smoothly as possible given how this has escalated and ballooned just beyond our wildest dreams so quickly when you offered to help with the stream you had not accounted for it absolutely exploding but you've don't you and and and Casey have done so much work for this without people seeing and I'm gonna be I I owe you a lot of ones oh there we go there we go hello hi hey I'm doing hey I'm Kyle how are you all its hello it's fantastic to meet you would you like to introduce yourself in case some people don't know who you are of course everyone my name is Alexandria Ocasio Cortez I am the congresswoman for New York's 14th congressional district thank you so so much thank you thank you to Chelsea for giving me the heads up and inviting me oh yeah I committed so much voter fraud for you it's amazing it's it's wow how is it going over there the government is like shut down my district down in history the government is currently shut down it's the longest shutdown in American history our TSA airport workers are not getting paid our FDA food inspectors are not getting paid we have folks showing up to NASA that are not paid and they're showing up for free just to keep you know basic vital system so to keep our astronauts alive you know continuing and so it's kind of a mess right now and we're we're doing everything that we can well keep keep fighting I think what you're doing is phenomenal and why the Democrats haven't caved because it's a big thing to cave on and it's it's good yeah absolutely and it's an issue because regardless of whether it's for a wall or for anything else the whole point is that if we caved on this no matter what the request was then we're basically legitimizing the tactic of holding people's paychecks hostage then we can do it again whenever they want yeah exactly for any agenda point yeah I mean finally that like now we're like but now kids are yelling you know build the wall it's like indigenous people and look clear that you know it's just the this whole wild notion is just a symbol for something else yeah absolutely that's absolutely gigantic monument to white supremacy effectively exactly exactly and it's just you know III applaud you all for the organizing that you're doing because the best way that we fight against tactics like that is not just resistance but by actively supporting and advancing the communities that that mean advocacy the most so I really appreciate you and everyone who's joining you today could I get you to say trans rights pardon me yes could you see trans rights please I know there's a lot of people in the chat who would love to hear it trans rights absolutely it's a it's a no-brainer trans rights or civil rights or human rights I've actually got a question to kind of bounce off of that so you have done an absolutely stellar job over the last just a few weeks couple you know barely barely a month taking the 70 percent tax rate and turning it from an abstract concept into a specific policy that the public understands and yeah is is there anything on the docket in terms of like trans policy making use of that same that same momentum to help the public understand actionable policy goals for brands rights mm-hmm I think that's an excellent question it's a it's it's an interesting one as well because when we're talking about actually just fighting for equal protection it's it's not as though we're trying to advance a specific policy as much as it is we're trying it's more I feel like a lot of the times it's the war that we're having is a cultural one much more than just a more than a marginal tax rate is so what we really need to do and show I think which which I think we're starting to do is have this conversation a lot more in our culture and so you know for so long I see the Democrats in United States have operated from a defensive place for a very very long time and and what we're what we're doing is just kind of going on the offensive but I just tweeted today that in the United States we wouldn't have to talk about bathrooms at all if everyone just washed their hands and minded their own business and so so I think that that a lot of what we need to do is put things into perspective but also continue to reassert that equal rights means equal rights it doesn't matter who you are it doesn't matter what you're wearing it doesn't matter how you identify and you know in terms of legislation we can we can legislate protections or legislate you know so and this is actually a question that we've had recently not just specifically to the trans community but there was a there was legislation that a Democrat was trying to propose that was essentially a protection for our immigrant community and but it was a constitutional protection I I believe and so we actually did didn't co-sponsor it and we pushed we actually pushed back on it because introducing legislation that's that pretty much already reasserts what's in the Constitution makes it feel like it's up for debate like if as it roasted right if they voted for the frizzle if they voted down the law it would almost make the constitutional guarantees seem less valid yeah and so we actually pushed back against it even though that it may seem kind of like a twisted logic or counterintuitive of sorts but we actually pushed back against it because we said we don't want to have a debate about what is already settled once you want to put that stuff up the discussion it yes exactly and so really what what I think we have to reassert is that when we say that equal rights for all we mean equal rights for all know masterís exceptions fine print nothing do you I need to ask do you know how to turn on the power in frantic factory and Donkey Kong 64 because I've been I've been here for hours and I don't know how do not I'm sorry Donkey Kong 64 is outside of my wheelhouse well that's okay I'm your wheelhouse it's really really good I just you know you've lost my vote no no this is I've never owned 64 though I do think it's probably the best system out of all of them I never owned an n64 but I used to go to my cousin's house all the time and she had Super Mario 64 Pokemon snap and probably a handful of other things yes that was fantastic I just want to say that like one of the biggest things that I find for me personally it's like house is like issues the biggest issues that we face your house and healthcare isn't uniting behind single single issue things that only affect them it's a single issue thing that affects absolutely everyone yeah that's that's right and that's when we have these conversations about intersectionality that are so important because it you know the the trans community does face a crisis when it comes to housing and health care like most people especially most Americans do except there's an added except when you have the added layer of discrimination it makes these issues much more acute in their crises and then they usually are on average for other people and so so it's important that we that we do talk about these issues in the economic frame but not let go of the fact that that discrimination is a poor reason for the economic hardship well said well that's said I'm sorry I'm here so quickly but I just wanted to pop in and say hello I do need a head out chat is losing their minds thank you so so so much for stopping by of course made it a phenomenal weekend many so much I'm so glad thank you for doing this work I really appreciate it everyone appreciates No thank thank you for doing your work and thank you just say that see you on TV I'm so I've been a bit quiet now but I just I'm you Alexandra you you are giving a lot of people a lot of Hope right now thank you and I really don't feel anything to ask but just I just wanted to say this I'm kind of shaking thank you thank you so so very much and I'm so happy that that you know the movement isn't all just about one person either it's that we can have these spontaneous Julius on supportive moments and any one of us can can be responsible and be the source of it so thank you all so much and have an amazing day you too thank you bye-bye trans rights that's right that's right there's 26,000 people here right now and my voice is cracked - the first time in 13 years Wow that was incredible and not to downplay Alexandria's work but I look forward to there being a hundred more people like her in Congress in the next decade because we need them and there should be more and it's awesome it's awesome having it and yeah so here's two more of them Cheers oh yeah and thanks and thanks Dan for all all the amazing work you've done completely pro bono actually figuring out the logistics of making this work I would be sitting in front of a broken box by now were it not for your help I know she's a master Johnson and we're basically sharing the same mic because we're housemates and we're both trans so yeah no this is meeting a hell of a lot I loves the fact that this is like getting money for a charity that really serves it grindeland hum had no right to involve himself and but I was listening to Nick's fears last night saying but like how if people don't want to only give their money to like a huge charity and not know where it's going and give it to individuals um you've got a pretty important fundraiser going on right now and it's basically to get my first wheelchair um back in June I was diagnosed with endometriosis it left me with surgery that basically sent me into a state of constantly consistently deteriorating health to the point where it is honestly getting to the point where I am needing a wheelchair and um honestly any any and all support even just sharing retweeting anything helps it would mean to absolute world right now I I'm currently sitting at let's see 679 quid but it's a long long way to go to get to the goal if I had any access money at all I'm planning on splitting it between mermaids the Belfast trans Resource Center and over the rainbow infamous because they are LGBTQ charities that are entirely deserving of so much more money they're giving so many people their gleason many people like support honestly gender Jemma and I and trans Resource Centre saved my life when I was 17 I was in a really bad state they helped me get my first binder and honestly giving back to them would be wonderful so ya know if I'd finally be a to actually go back to uni constantly and consistently I've been having to miss lectures I've been bedridden I've been getting pseudo seizures I've been getting your turret like uterus flash shedding from me it is just hell after hell after house like it's it's so appreciated it is a constant cycle when you're disabled trans of doctors just not listening and getting disregarded hang on okay so so you know how I said that fundraiser that we've got for Karen's wheelchair was seven hundred thirty pounds yeah so we just refreshed and it's um it's it's 1,000 pounds over its goal I think I think Suze is it just sounded sort of what I've just been hearing in in so the past couple of hours and the fact that cher actually retweeted oh yeah it's great to be back here and I'm constantly trying to suppress a scream of anger game but it's lovely having them here oh you're doing so well they I kept looking at the picture of the skeleton earlier and wondering if that really was you we'd actually managed to kill you off we're running out of food in the house so it's happy it'll you know we'll get there yeah this is just incredible at this them just saying all the support and oh my god AFC and Cher this is gaining such a huge amount of traction did you even consider that this might happen no no never i I like they we thought it'll be funny to do a charity thing because then you know maybe if I raise three hundred dollars I can you know write off one of my many personal failings and then somehow it emerged that actually charity exists for other people to you to use and give money to and now this is all happening it's I couldn't have imagined it and yeah and I think it's a good sign because the everyone who's donating everyone who's been so supportive and kind those people aren't actually going anywhere when the stream eventually does end which it might they'll still be here and they'll still care yeah I think that's the lesson and that's I tried not to think of that why I'm streaming because I want to not try too often on the stream but it's yeah yeah and I think as well as that for all of our families and our kids you know our kids who are dealing as struggling with gender dysphoria who feel that they're not you know they're not included or part of the world and they're not valid and they're and they're not real there's this for them is huge to see so many people saying no no you have a right to be and you have a right to be and we support you this is this is just massive I think this is like something that all that will go down in history there must be a record in here that you broken already and and for us as an organization who like you know support trans kids and their families for us this is this is massive in terms of being able to say to all of those people who who look to us to be their voices etc that you you you've given us that platform to be able to go out to the rest of the world to go look trans kids exist and they need your help and to have such an overwhelming support I mean I just want to cry it's just amazing I looked away from the donation counter to play the game and when I looked back we'd raised $10,000 I when I came on I said a very broad thank you to mermaids because you guys helped me out a lot when I was younger realist roughly I was when I was in my worst place possible I phoned up and just spoke to one of your counselors for hours and it just it brought me back from the brink and it's really that's the reason I'm here and the reason I'm on the stream today is just I just really wanted to say thank you to my mates because sorry this is this is this is why we do what we do because the fact is that I know that there are so many other young people and families who were struggling right now and I'm so I'm so pleased we were there for you when when you needed us I'm so pleased it's to acknowledge that I'm Owen Jones and sweary have both between of the stream as well so thank you to both we have we have Parsley's here Oh heroes hi how's it going we're words how many people here wear it where is everybody as a bunch of others 24,000 people watching right it's it's it's just really it's it's great to know that you guys are out there because and this is it and this is the thing is like the thing that upsets me most isn't it so much the biggest because we know that they're out there you know it's it's all the good you know the good people quote-unquote who just don't say anything and I'm complicit in it yeah I am I like yeah and I another big part of it is just a lot of people like to like to talk they like to be the one who said the good thing and not enough people like to stop to listen I can at least make a point of doing that as often as possible when I can I say this year is ten years since I I don't want to say it became an activist because we we never call people who campaign to maintain status quo until a disco warrior yeah when it's ten years since I decided I wanted to try and make the world better for people like me and and I've been doing a lot of reflection as we go into the new year and just the world is just unrecognizable you know it was very different it's very different I think Paris and I think why hi there I think this this this single this single action that has spanned the last three days and will continue on for as long as terrorists can stay awake I think this is the most positive thing I have ever been involved in without a shadow of a doubt and anything is easy you know we speak a lot behind the scenes sometimes and I yeah it just feels absolutely relentless doesn't it you know it goes you know the people that are attacking you they're funded by newspapers and and I know I know that you try not to put things out there think we all try not support our moments of despair out there because we you know want to be professional you know want to give other people hope and all the rest of it but I know that you tear your hair out sometimes you know we all we all do and if you have used oh it's giving me a massive boost or a day I just even just as it's as it started as we became aware of it and as some of them I think if somebody said to me have you seen this have you seen this this is amazing and that was that was when you were I think like 13,000 hours when you just first started and I was like wow who is there started to the Pinter and I cannot believe where it's got to share is retweeting yeah you'll see here's B I mean I'm just playing it yeah like Sandra Cortez has been here just massive happening steaming massive the people in the stream really want you to say trans rights just to say trans rights just say trans rights okay well it's written yes trans rights are human rights exclamation point the dis regularization point she put the exclamation point on it man yeah it's I just wanna bet mermaids it sounds like an amazing organization I've been a big supporter of trans trans lifeline here in the US but it's I think it's really important that there's something out there that empowers people and listen to them and understands them it's it's great it's super cool I've really loved you in in Matilda which was really good it's almost made all of us money back it's really really good film check it out DVD blu-ray release soon it's a real real change it's gonna make you know yeah and I'm and I'm I'm very happy to spread the word about it - I think up there's it's really is you know you need to be able to to get these things to people while they're young you know if you get to get that kind of help in understanding it it's just it's just I don't know it's just the way that it should be I feel like I don't know this is a positive change I'm glad the world is slowly moving forward in this way yeah you know being trans ought to do with traditional nature and life you know forced to go through a completely unnecessary and you know really traumatic puberty you know there's you know it's like I I didn't need to go through a male puberty it was completely avoidable and the problem was my parents didn't have the information and support and that's mermaids is providing and as far as I'm concerned they're doing absolutely life's life-saving work the attacks on them are I don't use this word off but really evil actually and try generous and think that the people that are attacking them are everybody think they're a good guy right no they think that they're on a virtuous cause but it I would just encourage them to speak you know speak you know listen to the families that mermaids is helping because they're doing great work and Susie's been doing great work unsung for years you know behind the grassroots activism and she's a wonderful wonderful person oh thank you no Josh Sawyer is this is I'm told this is somebody you might know Josh soya is my hero okay well [Music] hello it's wonderful to meet you Joshua soya creator of Fallout New Vegas and many other good guys it's oh I I your work means so much to me and I want to say like since what since we're talking about LGBT stuff arcade gannon was a very meaningful character to me and I know you put a lot of personal work into that character and that means so much thank you I'm really glad to be on the stream and really glad you're doing what you're doing I'll make me too I'm surprised to discover what I'm doing but it's happening and I'm so happy oh my god yeah right I'm just I have no chill also just anything that Chris abalone writes for I'm just completely obsessed with he's a great writer he's a really good writer [Music] oh yeah I think of games too since then you weren't just a one-trick pony a decade ago you've also made a big adventure recently but that was a very meaningful yeah it's a solid eighty four out of a hundred exactly yeah but I did want to say something before I go because I'm a design director and and work at a game development studio I've been in the game game industry about 20 years now and to be honest when I first got into game development game development was not a very friendly place for gay people as being transgender people it was I was pretty hostile I'm very happy that over the past five ten years it's become much much friendlier much more accepting place for people and I want to encourage trans people who are want to be deaf so I want to encourage you to apply to be doves because the climate has changed a lot as it should have a long time ago and I want to I want to reach out and say please submit your applications we want to see you in game development we want to see we want to see all sorts of people who are not represented enough in game development so I want to encourage people to apply for jobs that's that's very good of you to say thank you we had a Lenin on earlier to who I think worked on the rock band I think Oh Guitar Hero 2 to talk about this as well yeah I think representation really does matter especially in the games industry and that's really good that's really good of you to say thank you alright I'm gonna help out and of course just because it's it is the thing to say a trans rights are human rights have a wonderful evening yeah okay I guess we should do like a formal introduction for those who don't know us hi we're proto magical girl we are a poor ol trans speedrunner we used to work for games done quick um and do a bunch of other speedrunning events and stuff and yeah i guess a bunch of people wanted us on this stream don't know why over here now i mentioned i mentioned i mentioned you you would but who boy-oh person in the chat who said I've always referred to myself in my head as we is that normal no probably not your valid hmm hell yeah yeah it's not it may be it may not be common but that doesn't mean it's not normal or not valid yeah you might be plural though yeah who knows the definition of normal we've we've been talking a lot about this a lot of different love different competing definitions of very of words that used to seem so simple when I was six and it turns out it was all it was all right oh I think I know which one is the one I haven't done now which is great so thanks but also see Netcom just published an article Alexandria Cassie Cortes drops in on twitch stream says Nintendo 64 is the best console we did it we've been spending - the past two years saying that we're in the bad timeline but honestly and this is like the good time lot of people don't know that there's around an eight to ten fold increase back and forth between autism and being transgender you tend to find that people are about 10 times more frequently one than yeah if they're one they're about 10 times more likely than the general population to be the other which we have no real solid idea as to why that is because apparently like it's known we know the numbers but no one researches that they're correlated and the cause hasn't you know isn't isn't yeah because you found people would like people who like to assume there's just it's just it's just a bad people they just it's just all the stuff but no because actually we just don't know because we haven't done any studies into it because people don't want people to check involve things like parts of the brain that involve image self-regulation and perception and certain parts of the brain that light up in similar ways in both but we don't know for certain but I I kind of wanted to talk a little bit about that because I think there's some really interesting stuff that's never really talked about in there um so this is gonna be like a real crash course sort of thing but the basics are there's a lot of things that when you first come out as a trans person there's a lot of pressure to - there's this term passing which is a nonsense thing it's this idea that trans people are only valid as trans people if they make themselves invisible if they you know can pass for being a person of their their gender but it's a thing that a lot of people target for a lot of reasons be a personal comfort to be it for safety for being able to use things like women's changing rooms public bathrooms without being harassed there's a lot of aspects of passing if that's the thing that like if that's a thing that you're aiming for that are really difficult when you're on the autism spectrum some some basic examples of things like if you're a trans woman who has gone through a testosterone based puberty already you've got things like facial hair having to shave your face on a daily basis or multiple times a day could be really bad if you have touch sensitivity if it's a really common thing like makeup for anyone that uses makeup to cover things like five o'clock shadow that's really difficult if you've got touch sensitivity you can't stand makeup yeah getting goose to changes in clothing can be really difficult I know myself certainly adapting to things like wear bra straps were sitting again a lot of these are just because of touch sensitivity but that could be a real barrier to a lot of know the things that can make it easier to be safe out in the world as a trans person and it's it really sucks yeah I don't really I don't really enjoy concepts like passing I find them yeah that's another one necessary gatekeeping and for a lot of people I mean some people start up can't afford a lot of makeup they're plant there plenty of cysts women who also can't and these like when we place expectations that require and I'm something that someone can't do on on a gender I think that's I don't think that's appropriate in and of itself in the in shouldn't be a requirement to being being taken seriously as a trans person like you know it's equally a case of like it is a reality that a lot of people don't take trans people seriously when we don't pass and I can't myself in that I'm a non trans person I am very very frequently read as a trans person and hmm that was really difficult when I first came out because like it increases the the frequency with which you get harassment it yeah makes you the potential risk and the fears associated with being out in the world it feels a lot more real but someone might clock that you're trans and that if they have a problem with that they might bring that up I've I've asked I've asked trans women who I feel you know I can ask these questions and not feel like I'm overstepping about you know what what why you know what is why does passing matter to you to people who who do you find it important and the answer is yeah getting it's it's one of the ways you deal with if you ever get clocked as it were it's you you you cope with that in a variety different ways and one of them is by is by deciding well I guess I have to try and pass all the time now and that's this part of it is just the times where I do my makeup I look better I in the in the mirror and go I look beautiful can i chime in for sort of a story about this particular topic so um this is not going to be the happiest story just as a as a forewarning so okay so um we did not have the luxury of getting to start HRT via informed consent and so for those of you who sort of know about this process knows that meant you know in the United States we had to get notes from like gender specialist therapists TM now this was literally traumatizing hell and I cannot put it any lighter but one of the things that happened in that therapy was this this [ __ ] doctor who's some random sis woman who knows nothing about trans people decided that I wasn't actually trends that I was just autistic and uncomfortable with having gone through puberty yeah so the the intersection of being trans and autistic is a thing yes it was infantilization of people on the autism spectrum is a really big problem just know god yes a lot of people assumed that people who are on the autism spectrum just aren't capable of making informed decisions about their own ability to live their lives often overlaps when a person who is diagnosed on the autism spectrum comes out as trans you get these issues I had issues with my doctors been very very iffy about prescribing me hormones because I they knew I had an autism diagnosis when I came out to my mother as trans she she her assumption was that my therapist had brainwashed me into being trans because I was a vulnerable autistic person who you know couldn't couldn't wouldn't have been able to see if I was being brainwashed in there I wasn't really trans I just was an autistic person that had been tricked into thinking it it's you know it's a real thing isn't it yep yeah gosh I mean we talk about autism being a spectrum but it's even more complex than that it's the spectrum of numerous different aspects like I'd rather have a dead kid than an autistic kid sort of [Music] but it can also be great people reminding you to save your game I saved I saved I did they just then people I saw people mentioning it thank you very much Valentina specifically for adding me on that's good yeah our [ __ ] autism speaks speaks yeah support support the autistic Self Advocacy Network instead yeah that's the name that's the one whose name I for mrs. the problem with being a very negative person you remember the names of the ones that suck and you don't remember the names of the e of the good ones so thank you for saying that I'm a dream that people know cuz I understand it's like NASA backwards yeah easy to remember all I know is for Autism Speaks I just don't know the one that you should donate to so thank you hello hello hello um what do you do what I'm - who are you my name is Gwen virus I I'm just a blind person but like I grew up in the blank community and like openly came out as a member of the National Federation of the blind and has like actually transition with that stuff wow I guess it's very sir typical say what was that like but if you want to talk about your experience I'd love to hear it the other thing I do is I make trashy noise and music under the name the name what sorry thou art I as it's a persona reference ah no I like Noise music as well what's your what's your son Klaus it's our I aren't back and yeah I thank you for sure I I've got a long list of a lot of musicians have been on the stream now I've got a lot of music listened to but thank you yeah and growing up blind and then like coming out and being queer and trans in the blind community it's I'm guessing it's different than with sighted people because it's there's less about visibility out their blindness visibility hahaha joke is about like vocal staff and nonverbal cues and that's how that's how you that's how passing works within that community and like if you can make your voice to count if you can make your voice more feminine if you can make it whichever way you're going that's how the blind community but they've been more accepting to me than half the sighted people I've ever met and which is great because people have been their greatest to me what's going on hello hello is that Lindsay it is hi Lindsay broad well I'm out lesbian I talk about nuclear power in sex rights transfer policy and as far as I know most of the first out lesbian candidates elasticity councils so role on May twenty nineteen literally yesterday I was in I was in the ladies bathroom at a gay bar and this one comes in I like I'm six at one and I'm pretty much the epitome of a butch lesbian and I'm a contralto or as one singing strut called me a baritone with boobs which isn't very nice but you know and she just looked at me said what are you doing here just like Madame tit just look you are literally I am six at one and you're like five for something they are literally at your high level okay but she was just like what you doing it's just like you're policing gender in a gay bar there with a hen party so it all made sense mmm yeah they were they were there to see some of its method some of those queers the two gay bars which are actually left unless they right now are so Jen tried that basically just like that places where hen lights go like they're plenty where people go to see gay people yeah they are it's just like ooh look at these queers who aren't they charming it's just and then they're just like come and try to touch my hair is like don't God you've specific as has really annoyed me and it's happening more and more frequently it's people because they feel like they're you know because they're angry about trans people are policing gendered arms and bathrooms harder than ever before and it is affecting anyone a lot of sis people who just look slightly different [Music] I call myself sis but I'm kind of firstly it's like when people ask me what my gender has I'm just like people like what's agenda I'm like yes but because the other thing is just you know I am this ish but I have what's known as an insect condition which this is basically when you know you don't really fit neatly into a category between male and female on a physiological level happens to a lot of intersex people especially if has ambiguous genitalia is the term they use they will fix you which what fixing means is basically amputating your clitoris or in some cases amp using a penis because about a third of people they do this to turn out to you know identify as male and they've had their dicks cut off as babies and you know there's a really long and shitty history of it like doctors will doctors will outright lie to parents or they'll say oh this is messed up when it isn't because 99% of the time it's like there's it's just a weird-looking vagina it's a weird-looking penis and the baby can pee fine they're just you know they're okay but there's such this obsession with just fitting people into a binary box that you were literally having doctors mutilating babies to make them fit in gender as a kid doesn't [ __ ] matter like it doesn't even start to assert itself until puberty happens I started getting parents at like 14 so I gather that's a little bit later but thing is in primary school I remember this is obsession we just like already can't play with the boys or you can't be this you can't do that like I awful this pledge like I will wear a skirt on occasion but if somebody tells me I must rest go I'm like [ __ ] you know I don't you know because so much of it it's just when it's kids you talk about so much is not just like letting kids explore their own presentation which you know might be more you know massively more feminine and that's for them to decide it says this is your role you will not deviate you must you must commit prepare for commencing ejection of the babies of a female and it's just like even as a kid I was like I hate babies I'm really bad with babies why would I like babies kind of related to the whole gender of children thing I had an enduring condition growing up and I'm trans girl now but I was forced to go through medic like it forced to take testosterone at a doctor's office for years even though I felt wrong it was absolutely traumatic and I I was vocal about not wanting it from the start and like this doesn't feel right this is what I want but they [Applause] well I mean it's it's really horrifying and that's why you know when your location to get in sex people who say oh I don't like trans people don't use colleges take and then there's beep there's some trans people understand about six people but the thing is me I think our struggles are interrelated because you know what you went through was a violation your bodily autonomy and you know if I've been operated on as a kid that would know violation of my bodily autonomy so you know when it Altima comes down to it we want the same thing which is this is my body I want my rights to my body to be respected I don't want to have people doing things to me against my will I don't understand why it isn't just done an informed consent model because like I can I don't get I go into privacy because I take the pill cuz I also my parrots right I can go down to the pharmacy I can go on the pharmacists website next day I can walk to the branch I can collect that medication it's ethanol estradiol and Lovano gastral one of them is a synthetic estrogen the other one is a synthetic progesterone that is powerful medication I can get it just by filling out a questionnaire and you know like with trans people are just like okay follow this person and make sure you know what you're getting our everything blah blah blah if you are yeah yeah go go collect from the pharmacy the next day I don't understand why they need to drag people through you know the seven circles of hell or whatever it is because a couple of friends of mine a trans like two of my friends some union a transgender man and like the stories they've had from you know going through the GIC system going through all of [ __ ] gatekeeping it honestly makes me angry because so much of it is just incredibly cruel like there's there's one doctor and I'm actually gonna name-dropping she [ __ ] deserves it her name is dr. Richards and she's at the GIC in Nottingham and she is alleged - I'm gonna say alleged cuz she might sue me she is that let's just incredibly leading questions like she'll she'll ask you things like do didn't I could do denies suicidal ideation do you deny drug use do you deny being a mentally unstable she'll ask you all that she will allegedly asked all these some incredibly leading questions which are allegedly intended to trip you up and allegedly intended to deny you care based on you know whatever answers you give so we have Rebecca Hyneman here oh hi what do you - well let's start with what started my videogame career I'm the very versed on the very first video game champion oh I won the Atari National Space Invaders tournament in first the regionals in June of 1980 then the Nationals in November of 1980 and I was crowned the videogame champion of the world at that time and I was for the Atari 2600 version of space invaders and then I moved on to doing video games for a living and was one of the founders of interplay productions you may have heard of that place yeah I look at the game you're playing like man I remember that but voice is so long yeah it's like when you when you mentioned when he mentioned space invaders I just like my god it's been so long because literally one of the things I have just above my desk on chef right now is a woodgrain six which Atari 2600 with space invaders in the slot it's like I've had to sell so many of my retro consoles to make rent money lately but that one I'm not gonna sell cuz it's just I'm in or of what people are able to do with the 2600 hardware because it's do any of you know a game called Solaris which came up the 2600 yes I do it's it's ink i watch it now and recite this still looks good now it's like some vapor way from the 1980s and it was co tonight I think a 4k card times like uh something I didn't mention was I also wrote to Atari 2600 games I was the one who reverse engineered the Atari 2600 for Avalon Hill so I did a game called London Blitz and another one that out of control so yeah I know exactly how to program the Atari 2600 right I also did Chuck Norris super kicks and Robin Hood fours onyx where I took their Atari games and imported them to the Commodore 64 bit 20 that was that was that in 1982-83 america of course like do you have to write them in like machine code well if you talk about the Atari you had no choice that was the only way to write it was 6502 assembly code and I was using an Apple 2 computer to write my software and I wrote I built this Rami emulator so that I could do development on in fact I just still have the thing well maybe I'll save a life like as so many people and really really I'm just I'm going through the different hour blocks to see the different announcements and it's like 16 hours ago gay times a trauma guy raises over $100,000 Metro eight to three hours ago a trauma guy raises $200,000 despite comedy writer two hours a high cost rally ax marathon donkey calm stream raises over three hundred thousand dollars Canadian dollars obviously yeah also I just got asked to shout out a transgender electronic music band in Leicester it's screaming like tomorrow so that's screaming like tomorrow I feel like a radio DJ I'm doing shout outs one transgender electronica music what is not to like like people say Lester's that doesn't have an art scene it does have not seen you just need to find it hey I'm a Mario slash Valerie I'm a Palestinian American activist I grew up in Palestine and I am a trans woman I my areas of expertise are mainly on Middle Eastern politics every single time I come on the stream or speak people just start spamming free Palestine in Palestine gang which I appreciate it yeah I think yeah yes so like there's almost no POC trans representation like periods cap black is it for left to but outside of left tube there's none of you don't get trans POC generally which is very bad because that's a group that needs like good role models and representation more than anything else the suicide rate is highest for trans people color so yeah I spent most of the summers of my life in a village in the south of South Korea of helping my family with their rice farms and stuff and that village has like was interesting when I started being more visibly queer because there were like a few Cree people there like my dear friend janae I love you and if you're watching this no way you are say you alright now and don't watch this stuff but we grew up together and kind of found queerness together and the village was not the most accepting place oh yeah I grew up in a really small town second I could imagine anyway for a lot of the world that isn't white arrestor and even for a lot of the world that is white or Western a POC people are looked down upon and the reason for that tends to be Western colonialism introducing ideas that are very anti trans anti-gay not kind of Iran is said to have great protections for trans people but a it doesn't be it forces gay men to transition yes oh yeah must inevitably great ironically the places that resisted colonialism the best up Pakistan has some of the greatest protections for trans people because their conception of gender is very very different from the rest of the world hello nan ilysm [ __ ] summit [ __ ] up it really did I mean I think I think one thing we can say is just like being trans is really really hard because our culture is just so not accepting of it and it gets even worse when you combine it with other like axes oppression like race for instance or religion or just what the end of whatever things that people decidedly want to hate each other over for now it's my parents were cancer are conservative Muslims and yeah we've done even it's might even be harder in the West if your parents are marginalized because there's no the struck the communities are so closely met like that's an issue that I had the I couldn't go out in feminine clothing because I mean I knew who I was even with regards to the representation thing I didn't know what being trans really was until I was like 16 and I didn't realize until I was 17 which sounds fairly normal but like oh god it's we need more trans representation overall but like if you're in that kind of isolated community it's also fairly outwardly isolating as in it's more difficult to access resources extremely so yeah well that's why I went ahead no one trying my best for trans representation a for being a out trans woman now in the gaming industry and B you know as part of my giving back I joined the board of GLAAD and I'm helping them making certain that they keep you know trans people on their agenda good that's that's really awesome a hashtag trans crowdfund yeah someone posted that it doesn't really apply anymore in the modern day it doesn't because the interpretation of Islam used in Iran and in Saudi Arabia are is very repressive with regards to women's bodily autonomy yes and and cider Roberts Wahhabism isn't it well hobby is a mursalata ism what hobby is Miss Lafayette okay yeah we've got Jacob back and we've got Dominic Evans actually Dominic Dominic here a filmmaker and well actually Dominic you just introduce your introduce yourself yeah thank you so much for having me I am Dominic Evans I am trans non-binary queer and disabled I am a wheelchair user I'm hard of hearing I have psychiatric and chronic disabilities and I have a degree in film my work has been in film representation for marginalised communities my most of my work has been through disability representation but I see a lot of parallels with like a representation for the trans community and I particularly talk about how while disabled people in general don't have a lot of representation if you're a disabled person of color or a disabled black person or if you are disabled and trans to say well then queer you have even less representation so how intersectionality affects representation and I'm also a streamer on Twitch as well people when I came out the big thing was you can't be both and religious people love to say God would never give you so much like like being disabled it's a challenge of being I mean and that that's you know kind of ablest and transphobic in thinking it's a challenge you know I see be disabled as a part of my identity just like I see being trans you know part of who I am it's not the whole of me but you know ignoring my disability doesn't help me gain access anyway ignoring and trans doesn't you know ignore you know doesn't make the issues I face because I'm trans go away but in the trans community a lot of people don't want to include me because I'm disabled and in the disability community there's so much transphobia that I don't feel welcome there either you know and there are so many trans disabled people there are so many queer disabled people you know [ __ ] I'm Native American from Nez Perce tribe shout out I don't know if there's any people from the Nez Perce tribe here that's in [ __ ] Idaho but there's 18,000 so it's possible be at least one if they're there I hope they say something so I can be like yeah you get it but ya know the the the experience is like super [ __ ] weird and it's just like I am and within like Native American culture it's kind of like a it's it's it's a little bit of a mixed bag because like a lot of them are very avid followers of like Christianity from my experience and like like I used to go to a camp with all my cousins and stuff and we'd be in this little tent going to church and you'd have to go to church for like two hours every Sunday and it was such a [ __ ] of a bummer no offense to people who like Church but it's too late and then like so if there's that and then there's also like with in Native American culture I mean you've got like the the the two-spirit and [ __ ] like that they're a little bit more they're a little bit more cool about like different gender identities and stuff but um it's a it's a hell of an experience and like oddly enough I don't know I I love talking about this in particular because like okay so I want to preface this with like I know it's like problematic like in Twilight even though the character Jacob was like played by a white guy like he's not even Native American it was like the closest thing I had growing up and he was like a male like role model to me this like big buff Native American dude who is like you know he was just being a [ __ ] guy and like he wasn't a big old caricature of a human being he was just being this [ __ ] guy he was taking his shirt off and it was awesome I think that's really common for those of us that don't have our own representation completely to relate to characters that kind of fit that narrative I remember it being really important to me for some reason as a kid that I would point out that like the official art that comes in the booklet for ocarina of time and I would like to point out like C chic is a chic as a guy and like now is he it's just his eldona disguise I'm like no like she turns completely into a guy and that's who she kids and she cos a man and that was always very important to me I was I really wanted to bring up I wanted to content warned about eating disorders and I was wondering if that would be okay to talk about I could I have a lot of experience with that yeah it seems relevant yeah because I mean I personally I don't but I know a lot of trans men do and have had issues or are currently struggling with eating disorders because of you know the reduction in body fat and sometimes a cessation of menses and everything and it's a really a big issue and probably something that a lot of people don't actually know is going on in the trans kind of mass community for disabled trans folk you know it can be hard to lose weight it can be hard to gain weight depending on your disability and I know so many trans disabled people who have experienced eating disorder is you know and so it is especially trans fast as you said so I know a lot of fun I don't know how this is in the US but in the UK a lot of the surgeons for top surgery kind of demand people be under a certain BMI and I mean that is a huge struggle for a lot of people I know as well right it's for skin health or something it's something to do with skin or something like that surgery yeah I don't know how this is in the US but in the UK a lot of the surgeons for top surgery kind of demand people be under a certain BMI and I mean that is a huge struggle for a lot of people I know as well right it's for skin health or something it has something to do with even if you're going in for trans-related surgeries or things that nurses and the doctors that often aren't entirely cleared up on anything and I mean I've I've had really sit like things said to me that shouldn't have been said to me whilst I was waiting for surgery and my friends who who are kind of in rehab at hospital for other things I mean it's yeah it it's not a great such it's nice maybe people don't realize how on clued up that medical profession are in general on trans issues so if you have a lot of contact with GES doctors nurses it's not it can be quite um dysphoric and triggering the way that you're talked about see many sites and I will see without a doubt this brings a tear to my eye and I think you saw such a good way you are doing this and I support it all the way because there's only one only one main thing to do with your time on this timeline and that's to make sure you prove as much as you possibly can and I have to help do that as well pretty love I think sometimes when people have a unique way like I do and then they say oh you talk in a funny way or I don't like that about you but I think that when you realize we're all trying to prove love in our own way then that can bring a lot of people together come on being good in the world you're my [ __ ] hero I think like you're wonderful so much there's so much power and being weird on the internet I just like uploaded a YouTube video for the first time in my life today and like I just kind of allowed myself to get a little bit weird and it felt very liberating to just kind of start talking and just not stop and kind of express myself in the way that I truly want you and people like you just give me so much power to do that [ __ ] like you are you are too powerful dude mm-hmm I don't think I'm a big deal at all no but this is a big deal and I really I don't think anyone here really understands that so I want to try and put it in some perspective for you so a lot of the community who's screaming my name right now is from my community or Hasan's community I'm a small-time streamer I moderate for Hasan and I talked with him on gender issues all the time yeah but they the big thing in my life is and why I stream is to help out the trans community to help out my community and I stream a lot of my nonprofit work I am on the steering committee as we are now trying to call it but originally board of directors for the largest trans led nonprofit in America and I really want a spotlight like what you're doing here like I'm looking at your dono bar saying 300,000 and I like I could hear my own voice shaking like this is unbelievable um because I'm in the largest trans led nonprofit in our country and that's triple our yearly budget like that I'm still waiting to discover it this is all some kind of lie there's one golden banana to go it's in this level and I don't know which of the ones I'm looking a tutorial for it is because it feels like I've done them all but I've collected a lot of bananas so I mean they're all starting to look the same what's gender therapy well so I mean technically it's not inherently I mean I'm I don't have a special degree basically I am a licensed professional clinical which is just a master's level psych degree basically and but I that's my specialty that's my training and so most of what I do is actually right now I write a lot of surgery letters so there's a couple surgeons where I work in in the city that I work in and I work basically just make sure people are ready for surgery and I guess for me what that means is I practiced from what's called the informed consent perspective which basically means I'm trying to value people's bodily autonomy and trying to like help them jump through the way I look at it as help people jump through the hoops that already exist and like the easiest way possible so get up on my back put you on my shoulders and let's get you through these hoops and so that's like I don't know if people know about W path criteria is usually what that is yeah yeah I mean if you could explain for sure but so W path is the world professional association of transgender and there's some there's some good things about w pads or some bad things about w path but currently they're the ones who basically set the standards and prepare for for all sorts of medical transition stuff so and basically they gather all the information the current research that's out there and they update these standards of care document which i think is actually pretty useful if you're ever wanting like citations and stuff like that's a pretty good resource but it basically says you know for if you're trans guy and you want to get Top surgery the best standards they say you should be able to you have yeah they're supposed to have genders dysphoria which is again kind of tricky because some people do or don't have dysphoria sometimes maybe for you or it doesn't bother them to a significant degree but they still want to be able to transition but like so for Top surgery right it's like you have genders for you are you able to consent your own medical care are you over 18 and you know gr it's your mental health and physical health well-managed and basically that that can be kind of anything that's like you know so most most people I see have some sort of mental health stuff going on but they don't you know that doesn't mean you can't have surgery if you you're depressed especially if that's related to dysphoria like getting Top surgery would be an amazing thing for you so just basically checking and being like are you in a good enough place where you're able to get through the surgery process like and have a good every do you have a like a little bit of a support system but really I've never I don't know I it's one of those things where I see the process I don't know I wish you kind of wish it didn't exist because ya know we have informed consent in Los Angeles and yeah even that is just split up by sort of like County like I so I transitioned in Orange County which is basically LA but like there the press the process is a little different like you have to see a therapist you can't just do one consent it's you know I was like so everything is location dependent for a trans person absolutely everything exactly and I have people so I live in work in Minnesota and so we actually have we have pretty good you know pretty good care here we have a couple different informant clinics and a lot of stuff like that but I you know even here it can be really hard to access it's easier here than anywhere else in something as you say about resources the really important thing that stands out that we should we should be giving primacy before anything in the stream is the amount of things to follow up on there's so many people I want to get back to and there are so many things that still need to be done and still can be because people have been talking about the stream as if when it sends that's the last time anything like this could ever remotely happen and it doesn't have to be that way and that's the that's the lesson you know I think I said this one when Miss Cortez left there can be more of them and I think we should focus on that because otherwise we'll pretend that this was just a random event and don't know other people who came out today exist and they do and they're still here anyway I'm dominating or I will never finish this game so you just started a small little ten people we're gonna go stand out on a big Street with signs and stuff like that and it ended up turning into 6,000 people so I guess that's the other thing I would say is like you never know how many people are gonna show up and like doing something even small can sometimes turn into something amazing I imagine you probably didn't think that this was gonna turn into $300,000 when you booted up the stream no no no no nowhere near it really literally of hundreds of that like right yeah and that's even amazing like $3,000 that's like you know yeah that's still enough to run a program we're so we I run a trans youth program and are like yearly budget is $3,500 for like snacks and going on field trips and like doing community events and stuff oh that's like that's just amazing one of the organizations that I work with is called Tiger Tiger op stands for trans to intersex gender expansive revolutionary resources and services Wow tiger RS Tigers Tigers that's a really good acronym that's yeah thank you and we basically like run it it's our goal is to be youth led so we sent her youth and we'd run youth social groups because there's a lot of therapy groups out there like trans folks and queer folks actually are like we're gonna do yeah we're gonna go to the we're gonna go to the museum or we every summer we run mondo queer beach parties for the trans community particularly but really what it's about is we take over a beach and there's so many trans folks who can't go swimming because of dysphoria and stuff like that and so if you have fifty two hundred two hundred trans folks hanging out of the beach together that could be like a really transformative thing and all you have to do is like bring some burgers and some towels and like post a lot on Facebook another actually really good thing people in chat if you're looking for something to do get involved with your local school board meetings cuz oh like a lot of the nasty stuff that's getting pushed it starts at those school board meetings so if you can play it back there like that that's a huge thing you can do yeah and actually in Minnesota we actually have an organization because I know it's Chris dog and we have an organization called gender and gender inclusive schools it's a local nonprofit organization that goes to school board meetings and like you know shows up and has conversations about those policy things cuz it has to happen at every single school you have to have a bathroom policy otherwise it doesn't work I Oh Congrats on the way we did it we got the last one we got them all amazing at the end no no we have a mill our final boss fight to go please introduce ourselves I'm sorry I'm just there's a million people waiting so I'm Sarah setec at HMS no fun on Twitter hey welcome back hello thank you I just wanted to talk about my podcast real quick and may who is also on my co-host it's called the trans questioning podcast and kind of the whole mission statement of it is to show as many aspects of the trans experience as possible so for me coming out was very much a process of finding stories that were not ones that I had ever heard before that reflected my own life and the whole podcast was me it started off as me documenting my questioning experience and then I started reaching out to people so I talked to cartoon Munir who's on this chat earlier and I reached out to May and then tricked her into being my friend which is pretty wild but it I think it's really important to all of those things that we're talking about there's there's a mundanity to being trans that I feel like is extraordinarily important to also demonstrate where being trans is generally speaking the least interesting thing about us and I've gotten so many messages from people saying that just hearing trans people talk together in a room about just what the [ __ ] ever and has to help them realize like oh this isn't a death sentence yeah so we've got a I'm trying to I've been trying to find some great new voices ring and Alice here reached out to me a photographer student trans girl from southern Brazil Wow who wanted to talk about the situation Brazil and little perspective on things so welcome Alice your mic stung you there we go wait oh they moved down to sound check hi there we go there we go Brazil and what we do mostly focused obviously around the big protest against Busan are busy flats here and so I just want to talk about a little bit of dissipate from the situation wow it's really kind of scary because it feels like we're being beat back into the shadows somehow like because Brazil is never really a good place on for ten people it's a very violent country of very trans from the country country raised on very fundamental values birds now it feels like the little bits of freedom that we had were gang are just being like we're just being bad beat back into the underground but guys anyone has have and so you do that's in reference to like the election of Olson yes just for the people by me I don't know details well in Brazil we have had for about 10 years Social Democratic is government for a while 2016 or leftist president was impeached in which many people including me have how the white school so and then we had the many liberal government for two years and then have the election and the leftist party that had been reading for 10 years lost to Busan our objective now try to congressman in without it right exactly he ran on the good old out good old right values of Hamelin homophobia you can search some of hills into the terrific stuff about preferring to have the beds and in a gay son Ellen Page Ellen Page interviewed him back when I was before he was even running and it was like and people were talking about the concern then and to see what's happened I know it's affected a lot of people already and I have a question for you there's a I know there's a large like large population of our least there's a large trend toward a tourism to Brazil from America and Canada and places like that what can people you know with this sort of if they want to be good allies what can gate tourists do if anything when they're in the country to support the trans community there I'd say it's like try to reach out to the local organizations that are murdered the working-class levels like instead of just going to like the prominent gay club try to try to connect with the local organizations you have a lot of organizations that builds the do community work that's a really working class level and they're amazing and you should connect with them as well instead of just go into the prominent places yeah okay yeah it's good advice kind of supporting local yeah Brazil has a lot of future around trans people and we have a very rich I'll get killed history here it gets kind of buried and well the main way to reach out to that is really Google for connecting to look for work what have you what have you seen like specifically change just a narrative is it just the conversations they're having we haven't had much time to see what's gonna happen at work in the state I live in we already had the right to use to the name changes if you're a government government worker has been revoked actually see my site and really we it's very scary to be trans right now because the overall atmosphere has changed a lot so it's riskier than it already was but we need more like what's gonna happen in the long run what's gonna happen to the public funding we already had an informational booklet that was published by the Health Ministry about being a trans man it was called back so that was real but yeah looks like they just market well I and I know in the United States even just like the threat or like that atmosphere part the fear whether it's actually something has directly affected you or not or just the knowing that it's out there and knowing that it's not safe in fact people wasn't individual even if you didn't work in the government knowing the fact that you've got you know you don't have institutional support still effective or yeah I mean it was always hairy for trans people every country that the most trans people in the world but now it's not only being trans II just like being a leftist in general it's also risky just like telling your public opinion to anyone on the street ins like a maxim gamble like we've already had gun control laws relaxed which are really problematic in a country with a lot of domestic violence so yeah it's just like you beat back into the shadows and of the only way to counter that firmly has been like connecting to the local like the only way to survive being bad means back into the shadows is uniting with your fellow people yeah that's that's nothing I just really appreciate that perspective and thank you for like sharing that information with it yeah thank you yeah just thank you so much Alice for for reaching out man well um if you don't mind I kind of wanted to say something first please or why I wanted to hop in so I kind of just want to talk about the impact of all of this at least on me and I think on a lot of people so just sort of not not that you know I think a lot of people have been telling their stories hmm on here and a lot of people have stories which is which is the revelation that I think we've made is just like there are so many stories there are so many trans people with so many stories and and they're all very eager to tell them because it feels like no one's listening and this stream has proven that people are listening which is huge for me because basically I came out on you to I've been out for for over a year like a year and a half now I was on YouTube for a very long time but I've been mostly terrified to come out and I've kind of known for years that I was trans but it took for it so it's like a really really long time because basically loud it was where everything that there was and you know now it felt like safe enough to come out but then like after that basically for me I mean every time I upload a video I lose like around a thousand subscribers I mean I lose a lot of patrons I get a lot I mean it's been a bad couple months since I came out on on YouTube and me I am so sorry that people have been [ __ ] I yeah I kinda wanted to finish up what I was saying yeah just to quickly finish up I just it's been a bad couple months and it just seemed like it was consistently getting worse and the world was getting scarier and then out of [ __ ] nowhere this thing and like god it's just unbelievable because like I've literally lost everyone you know like the isolation is incredible and I've lost my family I've lost my friends I lost my partner of three years I lost everybody and then suddenly here we are in the entire world is for it and this thing has been going on and there's just been so much support that honestly it feels like a the fear that I've had for a really really long [ __ ] time solving that I speak for a lot of people when I say that that we are dissolving and I think in here that's my big thing we can't let this end here hmm we have to carry this into the next couple years we have to and that's that's just people trans people everybody and community and the sense of like of global support just has to keep going I've got an inspirational story for you about mermaids in 2014 I went to trans pride for the first time and there were loads of these little kids running around right they were like 7 to 10 years old though there's loads of them running around like throwing balls and doing kids [ __ ] right and I assumed that they were the kids of some trans people or some other people somewhere but I got talking through a cup of parrot they were like I don't I left my daughter these kids were trans I've never seen a trans kid in my life and they were just running around being kids I looked at them and they had it having a childhood that many of the people watching tonight may the people on this room had never got to have and that's down to mermaids and that's what you're going to give to thousands of kids by finishing off this stupid [ __ ] game yeah when they excel it's happen to the ending in years so is that I have to say that a lot of us were just we were sitting at home we were expecting this it's done it's done wait up I think that for the left ranch that was a really good mom to cut off thank you to all 21,000 people for bearing that that thank you Wow absolutely so Dan I want to say thank you and thank you Thank You Casey well when I see you next time and thank you Dan you've done say I think I think I should interview you before you go oh wow so you you spent an entire weekend playing Donkey Kong 64 for mermaids and raised three hundred twenty two thousand eight hundred forty nine dollars and Counting the number of people who owe you their gratitude is literally in the thousands thank you so much how do you feel and when are you go in bed I feel very awake they thank God okay I was very worried for a second that they bothered to give candy jiggle physics but they didn't so some small credits I will no longer write down the names of the people in these credits I feel fantastic this has been the most amazing 60 hours of my entire life and thank you all for coming out and thank you all for donating you did all the real work and Dan did all the and Casey did and everyone who donated did I've just had a pretty good time playing again from my childhood even more than I ever would have wanted to and it's been so so wonderful and I'm so proud of having been given the opportunity to do any of this and it's it's over I did it I've settled the score with my childhood and I really I really wish Suzy was around but I'm fairly certain she's asleep that yes I'm sure I'm sure she is I'm sure she doesn't understand any of this just know any of these characters so this would be a lost art but thank you for coming on Suzy it I you know I could have taken more naps but people who reminded me how much this matters came on to like make me continue and give me energy and make sure that miss ever ended which for some people might not even be the desired outcome but it's so wonderful and thank you for the question dad I'm so I said I would like you to stop the timer I not sure it matters but I mean I think it's a P B either way I'm not sure it's gonna be competitive on the on the leaderboards but you know good good work there Suzy has a fantastic thing to wake up to thank you so much for being for for making this happen thank you down I you I love you and you know I do owe you one and I we should we should hang out sometime in a less stressful context please can someone get back and stop the timer retro actively at the point where the last punch the last input is pressed because that's that's my actual time and I'm gonna submit that on the boards I'm not alright so yeah there wasn't a fourth beaver bother we did it oh and this I think this is the 101 percent extra oh that was jiggle physics oh no take it back rewind the credits we're gonna get them and it's just me again finally at long last thank you all for watching this and donating you did this and when this stream ends and I collapse into a hole you will still be here and you can still do amazing things we can build a better world and it's not impossible and any doubts overhead about that I've definitely definitely been flushed very far down the toilet now so yeah what the [ __ ] is this heaven
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Channel: Firehawk
Views: 34,840
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Keywords: Donkey Kong, Nintendo 64, Hbomberguy, LGBT, Trans Rights
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Length: 176min 7sec (10567 seconds)
Published: Mon Feb 11 2019
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