DL Hughley on Getting COVID-19, Kanye, Trump, Nick Cannon, Mike Tyson, R Kelly (Full Interview)

all right here we go deal hugely welcome back welcome back welcome back glad to have you back i'm glad to be to be back it was kind of a close call you know since last time it was what are you talking about what on earth are you talking on earth am i talking about well let's just start off with it there's a video of you performing at a club in tennessee right and you end up collapsing on stage right passing out something and and well it uh and the dude derek who was my security guard uh he's a great security guard but a shitty shortstop um he'll never return punts he's mexican so he's used to doing stuff with his feet now if he having a soccer ball he'd kick me back out but uh yeah i i uh i was at i was performing i had just come out of uh dallas i'd been in dallas the week previous and uh it's funny because people like how did you get well i knew how i got it because i did everything you wasn't supposed to be [ __ ] doing right like i was in large crowds they didn't have masks on i was there for four four days and three shows a day and um i had i had assumed i'd had it because i had been so sick that previous january that i thought i had as a matter of fact when i got back from um nashville i was scheduled to take the antibodies test and so i never when i got in i went to work um did the tv show on the radio show got on a plane with the nashville did two shows thursday and the second show on friday uh the first show was cool the second show i i was like i don't i feel you ever have and like your blood sugar dropped i felt like that and i knew i was gonna pass out i knew i was like i i think i'm gonna pass out and i initially had tried to get the uh my opening act to go a little longer but derek of course couldn't catch me or catch the signal that i needed more time so i get on stage and and and the rest is history and i pass out and then i wake up in the hospital and they uh ran test and uh they told me i was dehydrated but they wanted to run some more more tests and one of the things they do now if you go to the hospital for anything is take a cover test so the test came back i was dehydrated and my electric lights were low and then i came back covered positive so they immediately right then there everybody acts like you know everybody come in look like spacemen and they wheel me down and you know the elevator with the yellow and black tape on it and we kept going down like how [ __ ] far are we going down it's getting like it's giddy at and so we go into a room and you know they have the protocol and they start asking me questions and one of the questions was in case you're incoherent or unable to speak is there anything is there a message you'd like to write to your loved ones i'm like what the [ __ ] are you talking about wow so like a last world testament right kind of that kind of that type of thing and uh so uh that at that point you know i was like is it because i didn't feel anything literally felt nothing except you know from the dehydration and i didn't so they ran a ct scan and and the brain scan and all those kind of scans to make sure i wasn't having a uh you know didn't haven't had a stroke or anything and then they found this thing i had always had it it was it's called yamaguchi syndrome where the bottom of my heart is sticking like one percent of the people in the world have it like usually only japanese ladies and so uh but it's right where the heart uh the ventricle uh ventricle is and if i'm ever dehydrated it's like that and i guess between covert and drinking and and and not hydrating it was what made me pass down then i did my pro then i did my uh quarantine and and that was it but my family got it like my co-host all of them got it like seven people out on the radio show got a show got it and the only person who didn't get it was my daughter and she wore a mask every day um so i i'm sure like everybody got it but she didn't because she had a mask right because i called you as soon as i saw the video like someone died and i got on the phone with you right away like yo you were like actually the first one i was like i was the first one called i didn't know how bad it was to you girl okay like i'm like what the [ __ ] is that what the [ __ ] is black oh [ __ ] glass calling me that's right it's not this is not a good sign i thought kanye kirk the [ __ ] out again but no it was it was and then i saw your feet we said no i just talked to him he's fine i'm like how big is this is it like i had no idea well because people were freaking out like people saw it right and everyone started hitting me and even though i didn't get your express permission i i'm like okay i just taught the deal here he's okay right and that's all i saw and then i was like who said i was so and then later on a lady a nurse came in um and she goes is this you and i just saw the headline and that and the i didn't see the live thing and she left i was like okay okay so now you're in tennessee yeah with coronavirus right and they let you out of the hospital right and you know what the funny thing is if i if nothing and my ekg had been normal they'd have just let me out the hospital right the only reason i stayed was for them to run run other tests on other things but the uh if i if i came if i had just had corona i'd have been out in hours right but you're far away from home right you're in a hotel right i'm at this dope ass hotel that i like to stay at and so we get back to the hotel of course it's all over the [ __ ] news so i'm walking through the lobby right me and my dog charlie like my eight-month-old my seven-month-old akita we he goes on the road with me so we're walking through the thing and everybody's clearing i've never had so many people be so deferential to me no no you take the elevators like the red sea matter of fact you get a whole [ __ ] floor so i i uh yeah i go up to the room i tell derek hey man i'm hungry let's go up to the boy go [ __ ] you can't leave the room right so he goes to give me some need man then we get a call from the manager of the hotel like uh people are uncomfortable and they want you to leave and i was like what and so we you know tried to get obviously commercial airlines was out of out of the question so then we uh looked at private jets and we booked one it canceled once they found our headquarters the pilot was like no like [ __ ] that we booked another one in cancer we booked another eight cancer so i'm on this thing called the thread it's me and anthony anderson and george lopez and said the entertainer and chris spencer and don cheadle so i um tell them what's going on they basically call the the the charter company we use and go hey if you don't fly him out we're never using you again oh wow and so they got me so i got on the plane and they had that when i tell you [ __ ] was all taped up it was plastic like they waited till i got on the plane and then we flew in even when my wife picked me up she had the range river all taped off and i had to sit in the [ __ ] back it was crazy crazy it was insane how much does a private plane cost from tennessee back to l.a about 24 right flip with that 24 000. but it was either that or be homeless like [ __ ] right because there's one thing to have coronavirus but being famous with corona is a whole new right it was [ __ ] and everybody knew and everybody was calling so it was everywhere i had no idea and then when i got back to la i passed out again you know um because i thought oh okay this is what i thought i like oh they told me i was dehydrated even though i didn't drink anymore hydrated i thought oh okay they'll never happen again i'm going to the bathroom i'm out again so i then the worst thing about corona is that nobody will [ __ ] take you nobody will take you my regular doctor is like doing teleconference [ __ ] you look fine to me you give a [ __ ] about none of that like i have one of those concierge doctors that's supposed to he's like [ __ ] that i'm not going to see and my blood pressure kept dropping um so on the thread again i tell them what happened that i can't get a doctor george lopez and saying they they're doing all things anthony anderson gets his friend who's a doctor for the knicks to call a doctor at ucla who's a doctor for the lakers they take me and they get me in and uh they got to drop me off and i go through this thing and every the cover unit was weird and um i get in and then they do these tests and 10 and i swear to god in 45 minutes they come back this is what's wrong that's when i finally had yamaguchi that's why you passed out uh this is what's going on that's what we need to do about it and uh i stayed there for a day but the weirdest thing is um i would see these nurses that were coming back so the mind you i'm in four days i'm in two different hospitals on two different sides of the country um uh there's nurses that are coming back with ipads and i guess the ipads will have because i don't care what you have if you're in a culvert unit that's where you are whatever you have everybody got covered is it the nurses are coming back and they have ipads and i was thinking man this [ __ ] is dope they give away [ __ ] ipads they were using the ipads so that people could see their families because no one could come up uh then i was talking this i had this really sweet nurse she was really great all the doctors were dope um and she said uh i said what what are they doing and she said well those are so i could talk to their family and they said but this other he's not gonna ever he's not gonna make it i said how do you know he's not like you that's [ __ ] morbid well you just say he said no he's not he's he's not going to make it and um he's saying goodbye to his family and he was 34. oh wow 34 sounds like so i was like hurry get me the [ __ ] out of here so yeah yeah i know i mean we have this guy dr khan he's a a medical doctor in las vegas you know we've had him on the show a couple of times and he dmed the other day he said he's had 15 people die yeah so far on his watch yeah and it it did it became real and then you know you hear people saying this dumb [ __ ] like people are dying for misinformation like it's funny that they won't believe one of the like remember when chuck willary said something like who the [ __ ] are you gonna believe like the four most epidemic uh epidemiologist in the world or the [ __ ] who said we'll be back in two and two and then his son came down with it he said it was a hoax chuck willie said as a hoax then his son comes out and he gets off social media like these people like uh i guess today or yesterday these supposed to be doctors are talking about there's a cure for corona and it was this african lady yeah dr stella emanuel let me let me tell you something and and this bit says that um black women get fibroids because they're having sex with demons in their dreams and then fibroids are linked for black women are linked to putting chemicals in the hair so if it's a demon it's [ __ ] called dark and lovely or positive that's not a [ __ ] but she says that and then she says the hydroco that that that that hydrochloroquine that drug my mother takes because she has lupus a lot of black women have lupus now so if that were [ __ ] true then they would already be immunized because they were already they've been on it right yeah so they they wouldn't but we won't [ __ ] believe and see the thing i can't understand if you put doctor or [ __ ] preacher in front of your name you don't have to have an office or a pulpit and and you're on the internet people will [ __ ] believe you right because trump actually like retweeted her and then uh his son retweeted her also right and got suspended on twitter right do you know how i know it's [ __ ] because twitter never suspended i mean facebook never suspends lies if they can make money off of right they actually suspended yeah they suspend you they don't give a [ __ ] you can lie about anything but that and the other thing the reason i know it's a lie is because donald trump would never let a black woman give america good news well well uh dr stella emmanuel i'm not quite sure she's a doctor because she's also like a preacher she has her own like church right i don't know so she's both of them she's both double whammy trump would never let a black person give america good news never well remember like oh yeah hey look i saved the world and if he would never let a woman that that sounded like she's one of them [ __ ] old countries as he calls him give good news she's african he would never you think trump trump don't let americans uh black americans speak he ain't gonna let no african lady speak i mean aside from her claiming that you know hydrochloroquine is a cure and no one should be wearing masks she also claims that alien dna is being used in medicine uh that there are reptiles pretending to be human right uh in the government and um what else there's a few you know there's the demon sperm of course the whole demon sperm thing trump only likes a certain type of black person he only likes he hates uh he he hates calling powell but he loves kanye like he [ __ ] like like he hates uh yeah he he he hates dying waters but he loves diamond silk yeah like he picks [ __ ] for a specific reason ridicule it always and like it's always like he whether you like barack obama or not he's a remarkable man he's he's you can't say he's me he's average he's a better human being than true here's the thing if you had a child that grew up and became barack obama regardless of the political ideology he expires you'd be proud if you knew your baby's gonna grow up like donald trump you drown that [ __ ] bathtub well i remember i remember when we put up the article about uh dr stella emmanuel someone said who put a wig on kanye yeah yeah and i was like hey girl if you're gonna give good news run a comb to your [ __ ] head she look like somebody woke her up in the middle of a fire get out of the house immediately you give me to tell the world that you you solved the pandemic [Laughter] you saw you you basically saved the world and you look like you work at a [ __ ] cafeteria shut up stop it remember when they asked trump about her he like walked out right but but but look look at look at what it's it's fairly simple he trucks in mistrust the the the reason the one of the reasons that this disease disproportionately uh affects black people is because we have a trust of the medical uh apparatus and they have a distress of us so we don't believe that they're they're telling us the truth and they're there for our best interests and interests and they don't believe we have symptoms or we feel pain yeah and you know you can look back at the uh like tuskegee airmen experiments and stuff like that which is why you know if we post anything about bill gates there's a hundred comments about oh he's injecting tracking devices and he's he's trying to kill us all right and everything else like that when me personally i'm riding with bill gates i'm gonna i'll tell you what now i know that obviously we have had uh our uh problems with the medical perfection i think they have been they have been no uh they have been sometimes been what the government has been and very destructive with black people but i'm gonna believe a dude who went to school for this rather than a [ __ ] who said demons [ __ ] you in your sleep and the fact that people take that [ __ ] seriously is [ __ ] amazing to me i'm like it defies it defies logic like donald trump tells people that adjusting uh disadvantage which is great for trump supporter i can see why you take bleach because it's just like him it's like great for whites but hell on colors so i can see but yeah if all the trump supporters drank bleach i i wouldn't have a bad day nobody would they're not they're not they're not i'll tell you what they don't trust their mother that much they'll do look i believe obama is a muslim but i ain't taking license well let me ask you a question why does a rich [ __ ] like yourself start taking gigs and flying across the country and going into crowded spaces and going on planes and everything else one ultimately i thought well i had it and two is what i do do you know how horrible it is to see all this [ __ ] going on and to know that your gig is to chronicle it and not be able to okay it's the [ __ ] gig it's what it's what i do it's like uh you're a central worker if you make sure that people get their [ __ ] burger on time but what about if you help them to forget about this [ __ ] for hour right but as someone who is in their 50s right you have to be smart to get to this age right right right you probably wear seat belts right i haven't met too many senior citizens who don't wear seat belts so you understand self-preservation more than a 20 year old right and you understand long-term thinking and everything else like that although this is what you do you understand that not only are you taking a risk but you're putting everyone around you trust me i understand it more more right imagine imagine if someone around you right ended up dying from it yeah it was a view it was the first thing i thought yeah and honestly i thought that i had it in january and like i told you earlier i was coming to take the antibiotics yeah i took the antibody test and i tested negative yeah i thought i think everyone thought that they had it already and so but i did it but for me like even to go anywhere like even to take a gig you're not going to do it in california i had to go to a state where they can give a [ __ ] about their people they don't die in texas yes they don't give a [ __ ] oh yeah go to florida right they don't care um so but instantly when i got there i knew it was like nobody had like nobody had masks nobody was socially they had taken the chairs out obviously but you know we took our temperatures and an oxygen and all the precautionary things you're supposed to do i never had any symptoms so i kind of thought it it it wouldn't be me and it was yeah and you know bill gates recently did an interview and he talked about sort of what went wrong to get us to this point and you know he looked at the you know when you look at the european countries they were hit really bad worse than us initially and now they're doing well he said the reason for it is because you know the leaders of those countries took a very serious approach to it told everyone to our masks told everyone to stay at home they had their scientists front and center which they supported right and now those countries are doing well in the u.s you got donald trump who trucks in misinformation yeah and i'll say this also what those european countries need they also took care of their people and made it feasible for them to stay home yeah they made it feasible for them to stay home they they suspended mortgages they made sure that they had two thousand dollars a month they made sure so it became feasible but now isn't it funny how we went from uh uh caravans and people invading our country and now they're essential workers like america was under under quarantine so long when they came back black lives matter like look at all the so the reason that we are like if you look at why america is in the shape in addition to the things that bill jay said a lot of countries have a collective uh attitude they're worried about the collective america's an individual yes yeah like if i had one more white person tell me that a mass is like slavery i think if they say that one more time we should be able to sell their kids i ain't [ __ ] where's my son oh that little [ __ ] out in the field where's my wife you'll find out like they compare because white people are so devoid of having actually been oppressed yeah they have to co-op depression they they have to co-op and they have no like no examples we were depre oppressed because we were these people they they have to they have the least oppression from people well then you got trump that's saying the only reason why we have more cases because there's more testing right which doesn't take into account that all the hospitals are filling up and all the ice and people are dying people are now dying at a higher rate but more than anything else is cowardice it's selfishness and cowardice because people why the [ __ ] so this is how this works so the old white men who support him refuse to go to a convention because they know that will put their life in jeopardy but they want teachers to go back to work they want teachers to open to school they want people to go back to work and and and they want to vote uh by mail because they know that being in large crowds is very dangerous but they want to deny other people that same right you're demanding that our children go to school but bearing school doesn't it's not going to open let me tell you in all my years of seeing us presidents come and go i never once thought that there would be a sitting u.s president that would publish a video that says white power yeah and only because the president that we had before didn't have video but it's oh trump trump had video oh oh yeah that is technology it's people like when joe biden said he's america's first race that's not [ __ ] true right we actually uh broke it down uh george washington had like 150 slaves absolutely jefferson had like 100 something slaves uh all these presidents had dozens if not hundreds of slaves uh up until like 1850 something let's be clear american presidents hating black people is not new it's [ __ ] retro it's true it is it is i i'll say this he's an affront uh there might have been one president that certainly didn't hate black people that was probably barack obama yeah that might be the only one bill clinton and i like bill clinton a lot and i thought i mean but the the prison the prison laws kind of and that would support support so yeah there's been one guy that i can certainly say for sure for sure didn't hate me black people and and everybody else like this this whole idea um it should be [Music] beyond more people do you know that there are what a hundred and twenty thousand people in some cities that we have sometimes there are more that would be like all those people are dead and gone 150 000 americans are gone yeah and that's acceptable something who the [ __ ] would sign up for this again on purpose yeah i mean i actually checked the charts every day uh right now there's 152 000 deaths yeah with 4.5 million confirmed right and so it isn't that just we're testing more is that the the infection rate is higher and the mortality more people are dying and it's it's that you pretend like it doesn't happen and that he thinks that this happened to him that he thinks the like i heard somebody say well he gave you 1200 he gave everybody a 1200 check because he [ __ ] had to it was a it was it was a catastrophe of his own desire let's be clear the even if you were being generous the first incarnation of this you could see because no one had ever seen it before this incarnation this surge is because he forced people you remember when liberate michigan liberate ohio liberate massachusetts remember all those people forcing all those government remember desantos they said it would be a surge and that that florida would be like new york and it's been eight weeks and then the next thing something because we have too many [ __ ] smart people who are cowards and submissive to too many dumb people like fauci let a lot of this [ __ ] stand when he should have checked him right then there he should have said that's a lie he should have said that's not true but he kind of stood there and was mealy-mouthed and all of a sudden it created this well maybe he is telling true maybe it isn't right because what usually happens when people start to disagree with trump he fires them and replaces them with someone else every single time but even when they it's not just when they disagree even when they start people start to believe them or somebody start to like them more once again i never thought in my lifetime that i would see a situation like roger stone this is someone who got convicted sure of working with the russians right to affect the election and you're [ __ ] russian that's what i'm saying see and trump pardons him before he starts his sentence this is the first president that has usually they get pardoned at the end on their way out he hires them right that he gives no [ __ ] no what so ever nope and and he put it in place and we're accepting it and normalizing and i'll tell you this this is the first president in history that has more friends in prison than me literally and i grew up 135 right this [ __ ] knows more convicts than i do well and now what people are saying is that if trump loses the election there's a legitimate worry that he's not going to leave the office i don't worry about that i don't worry about i don't know i don't know you know why i don't worry about that people are saying he might mobilize the national guard to surround the white house and refuse to leave office i don't i don't worry about that you know why because if he does lose if he loses a presidency that means a bunch of political uh allies lost too and the one thing those [ __ ] are is self-preservationists they like trump and fear trump because he's to be feared if he loses they will abandon that ship like [ __ ] rats well you know i have a friend who who works with the mayor of dc who we we interviewed not too long ago and he was telling me how trump actually tried to pull that in dc he tried to bring the national guard to basically take over the police force in d.c and the secretary of defense actually stopped it yeah now trump could have actually fired the secretary secretary of defense and put someone else in that would agree with him but at that point he kind of backed off so he's already tried to do this martial law kind of thing here's the thing just just everybody said well the polls were wrong before the polls were actually not wrong the numbers were wrong the the the allocation of the numbers clinton did win by more votes it was just the problem for and they always make these these false equivalences they go well you know when bush was running bush senior was running against michael dukakis bus senior was not an incumbent donald trump has never been popular and i'm not saying that he can't lose obviously because he can but he can't he can't he can't win because obviously he can but i'm saying this we've never seen any president in modern history the upside down like this and one because what does he and it's all his doing right now we're in the situation that we're in right now because he was ignorant and incompetent amer [ __ ] a second term he should be up for second degree murder well i think that's what he's worried about is that if he doesn't get reelected right all the wolves are just gonna come in and let me tell you something else if i think the congress is the congress will improve i think they'll gain more seats i think that senators will lose more seats than they think they will and so you won't have that shield now all of a sudden all the people that protected you before won't and those other people will have come through an election where they saw what happened to the people in front of them they're not going to be inclined people fear him they don't love or respect him and the minute they don't have to the the minute they don't have to their their their self preservation is the minute they don't have to watch this if his numbers keep tanking like this they're gonna not only start to abandon him they're going to vocally abandon [Music] can't wait can't wait well let's let's switch gears for a second someone who we've talked about many times before terry crews yes in a very terry crews type of thing once again he decides to put up the word [ __ ] and use the acronym conquering our own negativity right my stomach turned honestly when i i think uh terry crews is a cat who um is is lights by a lot of uh uh americana a lot of middle-aged white women a lot of liberal white women love him and he's like their [ __ ] mascot and it appeals to him and the funny thing that terry crews was talking about he's he actually coined the phrase that black supremacy which he was worried about now before we just got to the point where black lives matter where black people were considered human beings it's a long way before we're supreme and and i think that when that's your worry he seems to always find a way to ask questions or answer questions no one's asking um and and i think he comes off as disingenuous and when it is that you are you make people comfortable people that dislike you or disagree like i can understand us having disagreement but people are arguing about about whether our lives matter like we just had uh tim cotton the governor of the excuse me a senator from arkansas during an interview he said that the founding fathers knew that slavery was a necessary evil a necessary evil so that was how they qualified it that was how they explained it away you are not ever going to go from we had to do this to you you're a necessary evil to now you're running the country as a matter of fact uh it's never happened and i think one of the reasons you're seeing what you're seeing right now and this fear and trepidation because then the country is changing in 25 to 30 years will be a minority majority minority country and there are people who don't want it to be that way uh but i think when you when you are terry crews and you ask these questions you answer questions that no one is asking it it comes off as d disingenuous and neil informed like maybe he should put down the curl bar and pick up a [ __ ] history book right and you know terry i know you watch these interviews and so forth you know you've you've responded to me publicly and so forth you may not care about this because you know you're obviously just chasing a dollar right now but one thing that i think about that other people who i feel are great think about is our legacy how we're remembered and terry who i think is a is a good actor is funny he's had great roles he's great in next friday he's great on everyone hates chris and you know he's had what i feel is a good career he's really going to be remembered and to his children and so forth as someone that you don't want to be remembered as hey man i tell you what chance the rapper came out supported kanye right when terry crews went you're right he went [ __ ] that i'm off this hill right yeah i swear to god terry crews i swear if terry crews had been as aggressive with a dude who grabbed his dick as he is with black live matter we're not having this conversation like yeah i literally think i i do not understand like he wrote a children's book uh which is a noble thing to do nobody quite gets what you're doing because these kind of statements will come out of no it's a conversation we're not even having right right because people were responding it was like terry this is a horrible term this is not something to be embraced right you don't put this on a t-shirt right you know and he said i agree the world the word is horrible but i've learned to catch the lemons thrown at you i make lemonade i make lemon bars i make a lemon scented hand sanitizer blah blah blah a bunch of nonsense what it's like that's what k cherry cruz and kanye west should get a room in the same [ __ ] minnows on yeah that's what i got they should have kids they should have the same [ __ ] medication they should make out what do they make [ __ ] like that i don't know man i don't know but i almost feel like he's kind of trolling black people on white people's behalf yeah i i tell you what it's the same thing because they know there really is no consequence because they really do they're the the right the white people aren't gonna get so mad they run you off and black people don't matter to a lot of people in in any high system of the hierarchy so they'll they'll go well he said it to his own people and it's fine and we don't kind of have enough that's interesting yeah that's an interesting point because had he said something similar like let's just say he said [ __ ] stands for kindness right innovation uh new uh something else i don't know never do that that would be the end of his america's got talent yeah job right then and there but i guess since he's speaking about his own people he could take a racial slur like that and turn it into some nonsense i'll understand i'ma tell you something like everybody tells me how kanye has been leo he's not so he's not nick cannon miller he's not he's not going to say anything about white people or jewish people he knows that he can say things and nothing will happen to him because he speaks about slaves and a legacy there so he knows that but usually if somebody's mentally ill when when people say the insane [ __ ] uh those men do usually they on the they live under a [ __ ] underpass with a cardboard sign that said repent jesus is coming they do they don't they like it and i don't feel bad for people that can access help with just saying yes they have the resources to do it so it serves a purpose but to denigrate your to to give people com i hope that i never give people who hate me or people like me comfortable i hope they never go that really made me feel good and i think that both those men have done things they made people who who really are hell-bent on making sure that they have a destructive uh effect on your your your life feel comfortable yeah i remember when i was talking to lunell we were talking about the biden statement about the trump being the first elected uh racist in office and we were just talking about all the you know the early presidents who had slaves lunell's like well trump probably got slaves himself and i'm like really she's like oh yeah kanye for sure yeah what about diamond still that's what it sucks like like for and it's always amazing to me how people um they always go back like we we're always distracted like trump was like black live matter is a terrorist organization but the week before he signed an executive order protecting monuments to men who are actually terrorists yeah who who's killed more people literally black lives matter or andrew jackson robert e lee so so everybody just understand matter of fact and the only predicate for getting a statue in america is to be brutal to black people to kill a lot of black people uh the last time america erected a statue to a white dude that didn't kill a lot of black people was rocky and he beat the [ __ ] out of club elaine in apollo creek that was even a real statue oh just a movie statue well you know you mentioned nick cannon and this is this is a weird one for me because nick is actually my friend yeah he's been on my show tons of times me and him he's helped me through some personal issues in my life i helped him through some personal issues we've talked probably on the phone as much as we talked on camera and then he did he did that interview with professor griff and me and him haven't talked we were supposed to talk that day and we couldn't connect he's too busy at city gag to talk to you right now too busy so i'm not really going to say my feelings about him because me and him haven't talked yet sure but when you first saw that interview what did you think when i first saw the interview i like what the [ __ ] is he doing talking to professor griff that interview could have never gone any other way than it did and the fact that you didn't understand that uh was if you get kicked out of public enemy because you're you're innocent probably you shouldn't do it right i've interviewed professor griff before yeah and i've actually asked him about the anti-semitic comments he goes look this was this was part of a bigger interview this was just a thing this was my mindset back then and that would have been but it wasn't like like he didn't really it was nick talking more than griff nick was pretty much holding the torch in that conversation right and and i didn't understand like if you if you have somebody like that on you already know that it's going to have a certain bend to it so you have to be prepared to challenge some of the things he says but nothing there was there was zero there was there was zero to be gained from it and nick really has to understand this nick is the host you know before america's got talent and the mad singer nick is in the accepted in the general market he was on cbs radio you can't get more general market for a black there are very few black people think anybody does you've got to decide if that's what you want you you can't be the host of the mass singer in these general market shows and then have professor griffon and think that that audience isn't gonna have a reaction yeah well i think with nick i think he struggles with you know his success on the commercial side and he wants an edgy versus being remembered as an icon to the black struggle sure and i get it and i get it but let me tell you something you can't be general market and then wear a turban looking like the swami from being you can't do that right you can't you can't be general market that is your bread and butter literally like talk shows radio shows yeah you yeah i think you can't walk around and i and i think i think that they're they're i've noticed that some people resent the things they don't have yeah yeah i mean i feel that nick wants to be like a harry belafonte someone who had a great deal of commercial success sure but also spoke out sure against the struggle uh but it's a it's a line between those two and listen he comes he came on vlad tv and talked a lot of [ __ ] like he he he said a lot of edgy things right but not quite as edgy as what he did well because look at the person he was talking to him right he's talking to me yeah a white jewish guy right so so it didn't it didn't look like it was in cities it looked like listen and and he put it back out the interview was a year ago that interview was a year ago it was a year ago and he put it back out right so people always blame me about the stuff i put out but nick put that out himself right on his own youtube channel with his own podcast his own everything he controlled the whole narrative he he could have said we don't want this out he could have not of course and let's be clear of course the only per there is no other medium outlet where a guy like professor griff and i like the cat is i love public enemy but what other outlet could he be on besides a podcast yeah professor griff has his own that's it little following i'm not gonna say little but he has his own committed following but it's not a mainstream following and it and it ain't worth it's the stake ain't worth the sizzle baby it ain't well after that interview viacom severed their ties because apparently nick wouldn't apologize initially for his comments you know saying that that whites and jews were you know their lack of melanin made them evil and subhuman and you know the whole uh conspiracy theories about jews controlling the world and the whole original jew versus the the the what they call the fake jew and everything else like that and let me tell you like as someone who identifies as as a russian jew right this whole concept of chosen people to me is just so repulsive on so many levels that number one it's all make-believe right saying that god favors a certain group of people over another this is all just just fantasy fairy tales and so forth there's no but but it is a it is to to it is one that's people have weaponized right one exactly so what happens is the people who feel they are chosen have a certain level of you know antipathy towards everyone else right you know you see this very clearly in the hasidic jewish neighborhoods they don't nice to live in one i used to live in borough park in brooklyn those people didn't give a [ __ ] about me they knew i wasn't a hasid it didn't matter if i was jewish they wouldn't give a [ __ ] about me they wouldn't talk to me they wouldn't say hello nothing right so it's just very insulin as if yeah they had their own community they had their own language their own schools their own hospitals everything else like that like remember the whole no outsiders at all no outsiders at all at all they're you know everything shuts down that's not it yeah i mean because remember there was a whole crown heights incident where a black kid got killed got hit by a by a hasidic jewish guy the hasidic ambulance showed up took the guy in the car left the black kid to die i don't think people realized that if i was that black kid they would leave me to die also because i'm not a hasidic jew right so so you have these groups so then what happens then you have a group that feels they're superior to everyone else then you have these other groups who feel who look at these people and either feel like anger that they're not superior or they say well really we're the real jews we're the real children israel these are fake jews and we're really the superior ones and now we need to somehow destroy this other lying group of people and all it does is create hate and anger but that's what that's my whole thing whenever somebody believes that god is on their side right then they are required almost because if i am right then everybody else is wrong if i'm going to heaven then you're going to hell yeah and i and i this this notion um i was reading an article we were talking about this um where uh white evangelicals in america um whole tend to hold more racist views than secular people i believe it because do you remember the the san francisco giants player that wouldn't uh kneel even though the it was the giants and the dodgers he wouldn't leave nil because of his he's a christian he's a christian yeah isn't the clan too yeah i mean yeah so and the thing that always i never understood is that so many white supremacists use the bible and it's not one white person in the bible like if jesus came back and saw that white dude hanging from the cross he would wonder who the [ __ ] is the acrobat who's the stunt devil right i didn't die for your sins to work at cirque du soleil and then like it's so funny the things that people accept like people got mad when julia roberts a legend was going to play harriet tubman and but they didn't get mad because julia roberts was not going to play but i know but that was the whole thing and people like oh what is he [Laughter] what if she and i like i don't know why no but go but but hollywood has such a history of this like the last samurai but the funny thing is a white dude been playing jesus for 500 years like literally yeah jesus doesn't look anything like brad pitt from the legend no and and as someone who's been to israel multiple times as well as the you know other parts of the middle east like egypt bahrain jordan and so forth there are no white people in that area at all at all it's too damn hot okay and then you you'll hear people like i remember making kelly and she was on fox she goes everybody knows that santa was white and jesus and in full disclosure santa a fictional character right but but at one point i like in full disclosure jesus did do some things that made me believe he was white like when he turned over all them tables at that temple didn't go to jail i was like [Music] but i knew he was black when he got convicted and and executed for a crime he never committed i was like oh yeah this is this is there you go there you go well nick cannon ended up losing wilding out sure which and i remember i interviewed him about this that was a show that everyone turned down yeah he spent 50 000 of his own money doing his own pilot right and then once viacom saw it they they partnered with him right and i always assumed that he had controlling interest of it but apparently not because if someone could basically shut down your show right there that means the viacom had controlling interest and and also uh it had gone away and they asked for it to come back they asked for it back and and it was it was it was just kind of kind of like it was like mailbox money because then the tour would go out it was very very profitable oh he has uh restaurants i think yeah like wilding out like uh bars and stuff like that look how many stars it made but the thing that's interesting to me is that when he lost he wasn't going to apologize to viacom but he apolo if you're going to apologize apologize early because then you have because he and the thing about it he did apologize after afterwards of course because remember fox said that we're going to keep him on as the host because he's actually a producer of the mass singer he's not just a host he's a producer but i'm sure fox still holds the they got rid of rupert murdoch so then i mean and he he started it yeah now i feel you so the thing that that was uh interesting about the whole it would have been hard for fox to justify getting rid of nick cannon when the very week that that happened tucker carlson had to fire a writer who was spewing all his racist tropes like tucker carlson said i've never seen a white supremacist but apparently he never went to the writers room so it had been tough it would have been tough to fire uh nick uh for for a racist epidemic uh for rapists tropes and not three days before not fire tucker crosses so i think the company was in advance well after losing losing a while and out he actually made an actual apology at that point and then he interviewed the head of the anti-defamation league yeah and i remember nick started kind of saying like i've never had a situation where i upset all these jewish people and then i apologized and i upset all the black people because he did the the interview and then he visited the holocaust museum and he pledged i believe like his first like month paycheck from the mass singer uh to the holocaust museum and uh it was one of those situations where i saw like all my followers which is primarily a black audience like they were all mad at him they were all upset that he did that and it was an interesting stance because it's like he took a stand but then he kind of circled back no no not only did he take a stand he said i'm taking this stand and i'm going to sue you and you need to apologize to me right viacom and then it is it's this simple either he was bullshitting when he first said the [ __ ] that he said or he was bullshitting to get his gig back yeah so either either way and and and one group was mad when he didn't apologize and the other group was mad when he did but the best way to avoid that is to say the [ __ ] you mean and be willing to take the slings and arrows that come with it but you can't say if you truly believe those things that you said uh and and all of us should be available to to uh open to the idea that we said something wrong and we want to make it right but if you believe those things and you were ill-informed and in your in your estimates you were ill-informed you didn't know why say those things in the first place it's why don't you know what the [ __ ] you talking about because when you say things like that you can't please everybody but at least what you have is a level of of you you have educated yourself and a level of uh conviction to your beliefs that that are unassailable but when you when you're trying to please everybody when you kind of go you can't go from your savages to oh i didn't i didn't know that that's kind of that's kind of that's kind of tough for anybody to embrace that kind of whip especially this comes off the heels of the desean jackson thing yeah where he basically it was a fake hitler quote but you're still quoting hitler right that was when i went on twitter and i just said [ __ ] desean jackson yeah but but i and you saw that and i did see it and it is so and everybody was saying they get slapped on the hands but again the reason that the philadelphia eagles acted that way it was because in 2013 riley cooper said that said i'll whip every [ __ ] in here yeah and they rewarded him the next year with a big contract so they had to look consistent yeah and why didn't you say this [ __ ] and then all of a sudden when you when when you're at risk of losing because you say these things for whatever reason um and if they're ill-informed and you take these kind of incendiary positions you have an obligation to be informed and to understand what you're talking about and even if you're off to at least have it be rooted in a level of integrity that no one can question but you can't just immediately crumble and go oh i didn't know that uh when when he gets on your ass you should have took some of that wherewithal and and put a little invested a little bit of that before you made the statement yeah and you know for me that kind of that brought me the wrong way because like i said during my interview on the breakfast club nine of my grand aunts and uncles got killed by nazis all my grandfathers brothers and sisters were all murdered by nazis i'm missing about 50 some people in my family because all these people were slapped between getting shot putting concentration camps in the hole right this is who you're quoting right and not only are you trying to quote him but you're making it look like hitler was some sort of savior of black americans because they're the real jews and he was really trying to to liberate black americans when the reality is that hitler was killing blacks right along with the jews the army he was exterminating blacks in in germany the only reason he killed a lot of black people was no detroit in munich that's exactly there was no right but it's all these people like even candace owens got fired from from from somewhere for making uh what looked like a statement in in support of it it clearly wasn't but there's no way to nuance those things there's no way it's like there there are things that you can't kind of nuance your way around and particularly when you're ill-informed about it particularly when you don't know what the [ __ ] you're talking about and then it comes off like he was he did this because he was being silenced or he didn't see this because either you believe what you say it or you don't and if you do believe what you said i think you have an obligation to at least explain it in a way that people might not agree with you but they understand at least your vantage point and the other thing you do is if you go into apollo if you make a mistake and you're gonna apologize do it for [ __ ] is off the table like apologize before yeah i mean they can't you can't apologize yeah after you start losing [ __ ] and have people not go uh so he only did it because of that we have a level of brutality in this country and europeans have a level of brutality that's undeniable yeah undeniable primarily because they were the people in power but you have right now right now um people are rightfully appalled by what happened to george floyd right yeah but we have statues to men who did far worse yeah and we glorify them like like uh nathan bedford forest and everybody it's a long time ago the last confederate monument was built in the 1990s and his soul his sole claim to fame was at fort pillow killing 400 uh black soldiers who were surrendering he slaughtered them so you can take a thing and extrapolate that out i mean well that is because it is because they have no melanin i don't believe that that's true but i believe we have a history of people at least in this part at this part of our history where people have been incredibly brutal for whatever reason right right whether it's it's people in the congo or king leopold right yeah now if you if if nick said white people as a group have done terrible things in the world i don't think anyone could really deny that right no they would because they would call it race but it is but but but why people as they grew true have done terrible things have done you know right terrible uh terrible acts and decimated entire populations and so forth do you know that like but it's it's we have a record like there used to be people they have a statue right now in new york uh to a man who's called the father of modern gynecology you know what he did he would have surgery he would do surgery without anesthesia on enslaved black women he actually gets stitches without anesthesia but he would actually cut them open and he's called the father of modern gynecology and you take that out from right now because he didn't believe black people felt pain and right now in america there is a medical bias where doctors don't believe black people are capable of feeling pain and and so so when i hear what nick said the why of the the how um how it's associated with melanin i can't tell you what's associated with but i can tell you that in history in recent history there have been these mass murders that were attributed to people for whatever reason be they felt and i don't care if it's the indians i don't care if if it's the africans i don't care there have been people that have slaughtered large numbers of people and people didn't care about it yeah and so where he where i think i didn't understand is that you you say it's because of their lack of melanin whatever it is there has been a level of brutality that has been visited killing 10 million of anything and to have people never mention it is is it's hard to take the things that we that we we have incidences in this country where you'll hear people say uh uh how horrible um um things are and then forget about moments in history where they did far worse like thousands of black people killed at one time because white people got mad and we pretend like it didn't happen so you forget you you'll forget a truth because somebody added an element it was unnecessary to tell the truth when kanye said harriet tubman didn't free the slaves she just sent them to go work for another white person so harriet tubman was a job recruiter was she she worked for 10. she was a 10 page she's a temp agent and that's what i mean kanye west is never so mentally unstable that he says anything other than about incredibly incendiary things about black people right he's never really said anything about white people nope nope and he ain't so crazy that he can't sign a deal with the gap and he's not so crazy that he can't get a 5 million ppp card right he's not that crazy he's only crazy right around the time a project comes out yeah and i don't and he talks crazy about black people that's what and he knows what to do and he knows what to do he knows if you said let me tell you something if you said anything like that about any other group of people you'd be castigated because you said it about us you get to do it harriet tubman was called moses she led people she risked and he made what kanye does that i despise is he constantly put an asterisk next to slavery like it wasn't that bad like all she was doing was taking them from one job to another right except the difference is is that you could quit your job in the north right you can't quit slavery exactly you can't say i'm not going into work today right i'll go on unemployment so he made it seem and makes it seem like her accomplishment weren't a big deal and he does it for at the same time that was happening um donald trump uh the secretary of defense had agreed to take the confederate uh soldiers names off the bases right and in an interview with uh with after chris wallace uh donald trump said well who are we going to put on the base uh you know al sharpton of course people know al sharpton are going to be a base but here it's up it might yeah i mean harry kevin's supposed to be on a 20 bill right and so but according to kanye right so so what he does is it's not is it really that coincidental that you bring up harriet tubman at a time when they're talking about who we're gonna name these bases after and somebody who was supposed to be occurring i don't think it's accidental and i tell you what he's doing and i said this before he's a morally him and donald trump are exactly the same kind of people they're both morally of their demagogues uh they are uh they are narcissists neither of them read and i've seen both their wives naked they're the same people and and and and then to say that i'm going to enter an election when you haven't at the most pivotal time in american history and potentially split the vote and and to not give a [ __ ] yeah to not care like when at a time like this what are you going to do about unemployment what are you going to do about uh a pandemic what are you going to do about a shredded economy what are you going to do because everybody can't wear [ __ ] yeezys and here jesus walks all the goddamn time that's not going to fix it but you believe that it's dope to to to insert yourself at a time like this you're the worst [ __ ] kind of human being and i have no respect for him and i think that it says more about the two percent of americans that would support him than it does about him he has a [ __ ] it stopped telling me that oh he lost his mother uh you know it's a lot of homeless people that had tragedy happened to them and they couldn't put it together and they don't live in wyoming or calabasas they we we put and we'll pray for kanye when's the last time you prayed for somebody who had their [ __ ] mind shattered on the street you don't do that yeah i mean people at this point just give them a pass and do the oh you know he's going through mental illness right what are you going through yeah be crazy and shut the [ __ ] up i tell you this then he took the homeless people's outfit and sold it to america for hundreds of dollars he is when you lose your mind and you're not and when you when personal tragedy happens to you look at how many service veterans are homeless now because we sent them to war and then give them the resources they need do we do we pray for them do we give them a break yeah that they're maligned and he's rewarded we you wouldn't give you wouldn't you he gets eight he gets five million dollars from the government to help him with his business you wouldn't give up we wouldn't spend that much money opening a [ __ ] shelter yeah i mean that's trash because honestly when this whole thing started and i got together with my team and i'm like should we apply for a loan and we're like we're doing okay financially we don't need to apply we're going to end up taking money from someone who actually needs it so we didn't apply for a loan point blank vlad tv is doing okay through the pandemic we're not just going to take a bunch of money just because it's there the end yeezy's one of the most successful brands in fashion period what the hell are you doing taking long time now they're the same and then you get to pretend like you're [ __ ] nuts you get to pretend like you've you couldn't make these kind of deals and i'm not saying that he's not mentally disturbed i'm not saying that he doesn't have problems but i'm saying this his problems are not the reason why he did where he seems to disrespect black people and hates black women that those not that that's irrespective of what's going on with him crazy i mean you having a mental uh problem doesn't make you uh say evil [ __ ] about slaves right because i believe was it the day after you and i had our last interview that the george floyd murder happened it was literally like the next day or a couple or maybe a couple of days and it was like oh [ __ ] like we're about to roll out this interview and completely ignore george floyd because it just happened before before we actually got a chance to speak on it let's switch gears for a second do you know will smith i do okay well i listen um the last thing i'm going to do is give relationship advice all the [ __ ] i've done [Laughter] entanglements but i just wouldn't want to be i knew it was bad when i saw the [ __ ] i meet with them on the soul train scramble board like i'm like oh the tango man i'm scrambling but it's just like when i when i i just um i was talking to my daughter you know and my daughter had a friend um who she bought home from college and she lived with us right and she needed a place to stay uh and she lived with us and and i accepted her as my now she's been there so long and we've known each other so long that she's literally like my daughter to me imagine um me and my old lady me and my wife break up and i started messing around with her yeah because august alcina was jaden's friend right who he brought to the house so i just i don't think i think it was and i'm not look i ain't in nobody's business it's a thing but when they were talking about well he was sick and he was he was mentally sick and he was emotionally sick now if you that's predatory yeah i mean i've actually compared her jada pinkett to r kelly without the underage part i mean people got really mad without the underage part what you're sick let me tell you something if you're sick like you we're phys he's physically ill yeah he's emotionally and then the damage you do like this dude was talking about killing himself right so it isn't just you having an affair or whatever you do it's it's that in your wake because you felt bad and that that dude was [ __ ] up behind it still is and and i you you can't tell me that if that were will he'd never be saving the world again i i just i don't understand like like to me that was that if you if somebody is mentally mentally ill they are they are they are physically ill they are compromised in some way you financially support them and then uh you that is the whole reason that the me too movement exists because people leveraged their power power and money right so i don't understand the difference and i understand how we parse it out differently but had the situation being reversed right i don't i think that i think that there would have been a lot it would have been a totally different reaction by society right and will will smith is looking bad man like that whole crying meme face that's replacing the jordan you replace the jordan meme i like playing that's hard to do that's hard to do i'm not listen i love and i'm not saying i wouldn't be with you i'm not saying we couldn't work it out i'm not sitting at the [ __ ] across from you yeah well you that's why why why why do the red tables it ain't fury but i will i'll see you at home when we get to the kitchen table but i'm not getting ready we could be at the lawyer's table you [ __ ] crazy i'm not getting ready and i've done a lot of [ __ ] right but i would never i'm not sitting there while that happens and i don't give a [ __ ] how it looks to people and i don't i don't i like as at a certain point i don't i don't feel like they owe anybody anything no but the last thing i would do is sit there and and and look like man and i'm look look will is a dope nice cat he saved the world like he's like multiple times but independence day and and i'm sure like to me out of come on you [ __ ] the brand up yeah like i'm sure nurse harthorne has a lot of fans but not [ __ ] i'm not being ready to do it no i mean will's looking kinda like a cuckold right now yeah because honestly when when august said and will gave me permission that's what everyone just said oh god well it went from august al cena to august i'll tell her first off let me tell you something if i let you [ __ ] my wife don't [ __ ] me too i'm not i'm not getting ready right shut up but that's what happens when you are what did you what was the best result that could have happened from a young mentally unstable dude what did you think would happen there's pictures of all three of them like hugged up on each other like taking pictures [ __ ] that i can't do it she's parading him around i can't do it on red carpets with him i'm not that look here i ain't built that way yeah i feel you so now i'm not gonna say it couldn't happen i'm not saying what i forgive and i forget what i would be doing is sitting my ass up there while you make me a [ __ ] meme well then there was the whole megan the stallion tory lane situation where i don't know i guess he shot him in the foot because she want to leave get out the car well that he's allegedly i don't know what's wrong that's all he could reach though he was like he's not like seriously look man anything from canada or something yeah there's a po there there's a whole thing trying to deport him right now like people are signing petitions to try and deport him back to canada look look i stopped [ __ ] with canadians when i saw what justin bieber did to calabasas it's the first time i've ever called the police on hawaii dude ever [Laughter] these [ __ ] canadians we got to get rid of them man all of them pretty dangerous yeah man let all the mexicans go canadians got to go we can't we got to build that wall right new york tamiya steve nash y'all got to go too jim carrey i love you [ __ ] you got the league my manager all y'all guys oh yeah yeah i mean i never thought well do i heard that megan got shot it's like okay something happened like a gun fight nearby when i heard that tory lane shot her man that was just insane and he's not injured well he was in jail he bonded out yeah he bonded out but he's not in jail he's not in jail right now well technically when you're bonding out you're technically still in jail yeah but yeah i don't i know what you're saying i would be in calgary so [ __ ] fast speaking speaking of r kelly we had busy on recently and he swore up and down he has more hits than michael jackson prince and cb1 i saw that interview and by the way nobody can go on a versus battle with our killer in the world y'all look at him in trouble [ __ ] hold up nobody who you gonna call michael jackson no beyonce beyonce no nobody got mo his dinner kelly nobody i'll wait stevie wonder's still alive he can't [ __ ] with noah again stevie wonder stevie wonder can't [ __ ] tv wonder let's keep it real man nobody can [ __ ] with our killing when they come to hits nobody can be out of him nobody i don't give a damn what he did who he [ __ ] i know he [ __ ] up but when it come to talent we cannot take this away from our killing i was riding with my wife and i told her when it's sunday as a matter of fact he didn't tell the truth but he didn't lie arkansas didn't tell the truth but he didn't lie let me let me just say this explain i i imagine well first off you know bestest souls are not here but a versus battle he do all right against anybody this is true i mean i mean sure they'd have to have bailiffs next door while they did it but right now is it's him versus the united states so i'm gonna take no other [ __ ] but like r kelly got a lot of hits but i mean michael jackson and prince you know stevie wonder i was trying to defend stevie but stevie doesn't have as many times as i'm not saying it's true but it ain't a lie either like i'm like you see those cats like when i saw snoop and dmx pretty fair dude they're dope yeah and i would have thought it would have went a different way but no i mean they were dope but r kelly's remembering all the stuff that you listen man people forget r kelly wrote an album that was so dope we forgot he peed on a girl like that like he had to be right now i'm gonna make these [ __ ] forget all about me peeing on this girl right so and people did and if it wasn't for that ignition came out after the the sex tape ex so and step in the name of love i'm in black radio and you know who who black radio black women are the most powerful in black radio they run it they say what comes on they say how long it's played they say how big a hit it is and and they [ __ ] with him and his music his music was so dope that up until that documentary came out he was doing all right yeah i mean i don't think there is anyone happier over the whole uh megan the stallion tory lanez thing than chris brown yeah because that made everyone forget about what he did yeah why did he shoot her right right right right right right heavy bullet holes right a lot of bruises right maybe a fractured cheek but no no bullet holes right she didn't have to have surgery on both man those [ __ ] canadians man you gotta watch you gotta watch right because i saw him one time chris brown no tory lady i was in new york is he really five two i i i was in new york now i ain't the tallest [ __ ] but i felt like shaq i'll say that but i'll say this i saw him he was doing a breakfast club i was doing it too and he gone in before when i got him and and uh uh it made it you know it just seemed i can't picture that no if they're really having sex the two of them 120 pounds like 200 pounds five foot two five foot ten i just i just don't see it i can't i can't picture it every pot gotta cover i guess well speaking of fights mike tyson vs roy jones jr you know i i didn't see this one coming yeah not roy jones cause roy jones the lighter guy a monster he got up to light light weight 165. mike tyson was like what 220 215 220 yeah and he looks first at first and tyson's a monster he is a monster and he i don't think he knows this is for play he doesn't he doesn't think it's an exhibition no and uh roy got roy got his [ __ ] by antonio tarver right and antonio taro got his ass with by rocky so i mean i mean his last few fights like i think roy had a fight in russia i don't know like 5c i i have no idea man roy roy i always looked at him as the middleweight he's a great great boxer great boxer in his day no i mean listen in his prime roy would hit you with a 23 punch combination and and like duck everything you're a punch out i mean i we used to watch tapes and just rewind this [ __ ] it was amazing but you could look at it evander holyfield wasn't that big a guy holyfield was pretty big no he wasn't a big like he moved all the way remember he moved on cruiserweight like fighting dwight quite a way he came up to that yeah yeah he gained muscle yeah and when he first bought tyson we thought he was too light yeah now roy jones is too late but but i don't think they're going to really try to kill you it could in in the real world it could never be sanctioned because they're vastly different weight classes but i guess everybody wants to see like these two yeah people really want to see mike tyson well i saw that training video yeah i don't think tyson he's the baddest 53-year-old man in the world right and i remember i interviewed michael franzis you know the the ex-mafia guy who who was on tyson's show and they hung out a couple times and he was talking to tyson and he was like what is it what is it about boxing and tyson told him he's like i just like watching things fight he said honestly i'll watch two bugs fight all night because i just like watching fights you know what i was with mike tyson the other night we went to dinner and we were talking about you know he's training he looks great by the way he's in great shape and you know he's training for a fight so i said mike are you going to really do that mma thing and he was with two of his trainers and they said no we don't want him doing that but i said mike do you enjoy that he says to me michael i love to watch two bugs fight i'll watch them fight all night long he said i'm just now i want to see everybody fighting i want to watch it all night long like tyson have you have you met tyson oh yeah have you had conversations with tyson and it's always a little you you ever stood outside and you could hear the energy in a telephone pole the hot wire the wires it feels like that like it feels like something can happen i talked to tyson one time this was during my mixtape days this was maybe 2004. i ran into him he was walking into a soul food restaurant in inglewood i was in the parking lot i saw oh it's mike tyson let me go give him my mixtape so i walked up to my text and i said hi mike you know how you doing i'm dj vlad i just want to give you this mixtape that i made um he goes oh okay thank you you make this big state i said yeah so this is your mixtape yeah you're the one who put it together yeah this is your name on it yes it is so you're the one who did this mixtape and it just kept going right on and on and i'd have to answer every time because it's mike tyson i don't want to piss the guy off get punched in the face like so i'm answering the same question probably about 13 times and then he said okay thank you and he went into the soul food restaurant but a really nice like a real it was he was very nice he was very nice but i'm saying it was not a normal conversation that i've had with other human beings no because when people beat people up for a living their conversations tend to be a little different um well rest in peace uh john lewis yeah died at the age of 80. trump didn't attend his uh of course not that's that here's the thing at a certain point if you sign to be the president of the united states of america you're a figurehead and you have to go to dignitaries and important people's funerals you have to show up you have to make an appearance right um the fact that he doesn't have enough respect for the office like what he did to john mccain what he does he he donald trump has has lowered the blue book value of the presidency like like he's a he's the first dude did connie think he could win yeah yeah well he did win so but the bottom line is you being a president is not about just flying places and saying dope [ __ ] it is about doing the business of the country and doing the business of the country is to bury its fallen heroes whether you think they're a hero hero or not like you not i'm not gonna go i'm not gonna pay any you know he did it to john mccain john mccain fought and was captured and and bled for this country whether you liked him or not it was a personal political adversary or not that is the gig you sign up for when you're president you got to go to people's funerals you got to go to this to to do the business of the president you got to pretend and the reason right now that america is in the shape that is in because he can't even muster up the ability to pretend like he gives a [ __ ] at all he can't do it he doesn't put up obama's uh portrait in the white house doesn't go to john lewis's funeral um he said bad things about john made them cover up john mccain's name on that battleship because he didn't want to see it he's a like he's made the united states weaker sicker and pettier i agree so and that's exactly why i do like kanye west could be a great vice president fan well since last time pop smoke uh five people were arrested yeah around his murder yeah and i remember when it first happened the conspiracy theories oh well you know he he just got charged with stealing that that rolls royce maybe it's the guy that he took the rolls-royce from oh well maybe some some brooklyn gang [ __ ] because you know he was a brooklyn [ __ ] and then there's a bunch of beef that happened in that neighborhood or whatever else and you come to find out it was five local gang members from la who saw him flash his address on social media and they just showed up at his house and basically a robbery that turned into a murder is what the police are saying two of the people arrested are miners so this makes me think of these like 17 and 18 year olds and it's such a waste it is and you grew up in these types of neighborhoods with these type of guys and the invitation what i what i've always found disturbing is the people that can't differ all those cats seem to be killed by dudes from here like the like biggie tupac like all like and i don't know what possible would have been but it would have been nice to see possible was on his way so pop smoke was let me tell you something this whole movement that's happening in brooklyn hip-hop pop smoke was the torchbearer of that the way the beats sound the way people are rapping and everything else like that pop smoke was a star in the making which is why his album went number one after he passed um huge influence travis scott had him on his album like but look at all that like it's sad and i love where i'm from and i love this city nipsey yeah tupac biggie this this young man some of the biggest some of the biggest oh my god killed by by l.a gangsters and and and who don't seem to differentiate something that they've seen here from the [ __ ] that they know from here it's it's it's it's mind-boggling right because you know we've talked about this you know you were a blood at that point and uh you know i've interviewed lots of lots of gangsters the regulars on my show mob james bg knockout these are all people that have shot people some of them have killed people they've talked about it on camera right you know in self-defense but you know mc8 you know we we talked about the mentality of a drive-by of doing this type of thing and um you know like look at chicago 15 people were shot in front of a funeral home right a funeral home i've never heard of that before i have you have oh yeah people get i have i've heard of someone getting shot at a funeral okay a fight breaks out at a funeral tensions are high i understand my dad's funeral was not very pleasant for me you know there's people there i didn't like i get it but i've known people 15 people shot i've not known but i've i grew up people would murder somebody and then shoot up his funeral i mean it's it's the it's one of the things i've always the reason that i try to see the world like because you grow up here and it's so small and all that matters is this thing and then you see how big it is and look and look at look at how devastating that mentality is just to argue look at the things that those men would have gone on to accomplish what if those men had gotten to be our age now yeah where they would be at now the things they would be saying imagine tupac as a voice in the 2020 election imagine tupac telling kanye to shut the [ __ ] up right and everyone's saying yeah right this is the guy we need to listen to you we need to stop listening to the kindness imagine what you're doing imagine what nipsey was doing yeah and and and it's there there there seems to be this thing from here and this is the city i love and grew up in uh all why them all the time yeah and it's nothing to be proud of no and it's devastating to our future because how influential those men were but how many people grew with them and how more much more influential they would have been you talk about uh uh john lewis and how impactful he was in his way obviously and how many decades he looked 80 yeah and how many decades he influenced people he he's one of the first black people to lie and state they carried his body over a bridge that he was beaten on he look look at look at what he was and a 22 year old man and the things he had come 80. imagine men like that who got to do that who got to have that continual experience that they can impart to people and to be snuffed out by a mentality that has to have something and it's got to be something in the soil in the water because it's specifically here yeah yeah well i mean look it's it i'm trying to be funny it's kennedy it's funny like look at all this this [ __ ] that has happened like here like kennedy's the f i mean all the people that could have been impactful have been killed by people in it's sad to me i mean you grew up around guys that do this all what what what is their mentality what is their justification i i couldn't it's such a foreign thing to me now to be that devoid this is this is what i will say and then i i remember when i grew up these cats these dudes had done some dirt and they were i remember them laughing about it later on i would recognize later on when i was a much older cat much older man i would recognize that that was they were sociopaths now i would have never known that before but they were sociopaths yeah they took and i instantly knew i didn't have that in me i was like i don't that this is i i i would i don't want to to to be a do a thing i can't come back from and have somebody give me validation well honest that would have been a lot well how much of it is being a sociopath versus being bred and trained from an early age to do certain things yeah but even at that even at that there is like for example like you look at some of these african countries and they have these these child armies right they have these 12 13 10 year old kids they put they put guns in their hand this is what you give them gun powder and cocaine yeah and and they they slaughter their loved ones and they make them do horrible things and they indoctrinate them right now are they sociopaths or were they trained to be a certain type of way here's the thing you know it was every nazi soldier a sociopath or were they just going along with orders because you know there's been lots of you know experiments like you remember like the whole uh shock shock therapy experiment where they showed that as long as someone's superior told them to keep going with an experiment they would kill people right essentially by by shocking them when they told wrong answers in a test these were not sociopaths these were people that were just following orders and a lot of times there is a hierarchy in these gangs right there's the og okay but it's the shock collars this this you go do this this thing we're talking about right now five dudes saw something on tv and said we're going to do something about this right now right now that wasn't that was just to do there was men that were and and i guarantee you that the people who were pivotal on that probably were sociopaths now then there there's beta there's all kind of things that happen but if when these things happen there's going to be somebody that's sociopathic in that in that in that and that and why why the fact that you don't under bill cosby son got killed like it's just all this stuff has happened here what is it about that what is it that that makes that that makes me look at all the the you know you know what i think you know what i think part of it is as someone who who's lived in l.a for a while but wasn't born and raised in la but who spent you know at this point what i'm seven years in in tallaha yeah you get put in this place and you have so many quote-unquote stars that are just commonplace you'll be at the starbucks you'll see jamie foxx right you'll be you know you'll be the jack-in-the-box you'll see uh you know a rolls-royce pull up you go to these southern cities this is not like that go to tennessee go to memphis go to go to wherever this is why for example like you know i remember someone explaining to me how the morning show hosts in these cities were actual are the stars of the city whereas you go to la no one really gives much of a [ __ ] about who's doing the morning show because there's actual movie stars right in the city you're seeing this and you're just bombarded by this wealth and this fame and this glamour but and you go home and you're living a squalor i can tell you this i grew up on 135th and avalon my mother still lives in that neighborhood okay i remember never no i i never even went to the beach that wasn't we went down one freeway cabrillo beach way down the 110. never went out that way i never knew white people lived in this city i would see them on bob barker and think we live in l.a and i go i didn't know and then one time i went to west l.a and it says now entering west l.a and i went oh they live here because you are so insulated you're so sad and all i knew was my neighborhood and all i cared about was my neighborhood and the only place i could go there was nowhere to go every mall i went to every person i visited was in that small thing and now and it breeds a certain type of us versus them and not caring about anybody other than than that group but your day was before the internet yeah for social media you know i mean you could not see a video on your phone of a music star that you listen to 15 miles away and they're right there that's their address you did not have that you watched soul train you nbc whatever else you did not see tupac was before it was before it was before tupac it was before everyone biggie was before but what is it about this place with these cat cats have this thing yeah and it's it makes me sad because it's a city i [ __ ] love i love i live in l.a and new york but i've lived here my whole life i love it but i also understand that there is there are things that i see here that i go everywhere and there is a there is a thing i see here we los angeles has the most deadly police department in america the most deadly policemen consistently the most deadly complete police department in america and i think one of the things that happens here is that we there's this it's a breeding ground for this anger and and i'm gonna get mine and i don't care about that person like i i i just it and it's so specific from neighborhood you could live like i grew up on this side of avalon i loved all those dudes on that side of avalon i didn't and literally if i threw a rock from my side avalon i'd hit somebody that lived there that's such a different and i guarantee you that when men those young cats got a chance to grow up and see how different it would look so now i love people from my my security dude is a mexican dude well i grew up that could have never happened with that mentality and he watches my back and he's over he's my well he didn't why because you guys were at war with mexicans nobody like it's just nobody liked anybody from anywhere else yeah and well he let me fall and i think he did that on purpose some some brother he is he's a [ __ ] shitty shortstop but but all we were always fragmented it was always this thing it's always here and not there always us and not them and i just and i think it's is so pervasive because one thing i noticed it always seems to be people from here that have a tendency to find themselves where they're in proximity to hurt these people yeah and it's just and it's in this i remember years ago when they would have events people would have to basically get permission so they can get jammed up and robbed and and and and and jacked up to come in like they they couldn't have you can't have black awards shows here like the sword remember all that said you couldn't do it because people get [ __ ] up yeah no i mean the l.a riots happen here when you look at the riots that that happened all around the country and the world la really set the stage for all that and they happen and those riots happen in the same 35 year period yeah did you know that they're actually selling they're auctioning off the camera that was used to record the rodney king beating i could i i it does the camera doesn't even work it didn't work there it didn't work for rodney either that's right all right dear hughley always a pleasure likewise oh he's epic whenever we do it man glad you're healthy glad you recovered you know because it could have gone very very bad for you and the people around you so i'm glad you're fully recovered man you know and just keep doing your thing you too i'll see you in a couple weeks peace you

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Published: Wed Aug 26 2020