Freeway Ricky on El Chapo, Suge Knight, 'Snowfall', Tekashi 6ix9ine (Full Interview)

all right here we go Freeway Ricky Ross welcome back what's up what's up man third time third time third time's a charm yeah extra fly today you know you had your stylists come in with you today well you know we moving up a little bit in life you know and when people felt that it was time that I start dressing up a little bit I really liked to dress down and I just feel more comfortable you know and we're second-hand clothes yeah the same way I'm the same way yeah well you have a new project coming out right baby bunch of new prizes what's new projects yeah you don't talk about him yeah I mean we can talk about everything I'm okay what are some of the new projects when a movie we signed a director we got the casting director sign we also working on a TV series okay I'm building an app for marijuana a new book coming out January my birth date I'm releasing a new book yeah I'm all over the place man I'm just just just you know enjoying life having a ball you know hustling doing what I like to do legally hustle hustle hustle that's what's up I switched it up you know you know what I figured out when I was in jail that the only thing I was doing wrong was I put cocaine in my mix mmm you know I should have left the cocaine out and just stay with the baking soda so you know we talked about a lot of stuff last couple of interviews that there was a few things that I kind of want to go over that we didn't cover one of which was what happened to you and you're five years old I guess you actually witnessed your mom shoot and kill your uncle yeah yeah and he could have been considered my favorite uncle my second to the favored uncle but he was close to me and I was close to him what was the situation about I mean do you obviously you were young but you know did you find oh yeah I remember how was you know it was like it happened yesterday almost some things in life that you just don't forget you know that was one of them it was another situation when I was a first the second day of school you know somebody beat me out my quarter for the lunch you know those situations you just never forget them you know the night that my mom shot my uncle you know I'll never forget that you know that is something that I feel uh being with me for the rest of my life because it affected me and affected me in a way that I'd never been affected before especially at that time okay what led up to the shooting well we came home me and my mom not sure where we came from but uh we came into the house and when we came in my uncle was literally stabbed and his wife as we walked in the door he was stabbing his wife yeah Wow okay just a domestic argument that that went haywire so I mean my uncle was it was it was it was it was a drunk alcoholic I don't know which one at the time but you know he got drunk a lot and his wife was a sweet lady you know didn't go anywhere I stayed at the house all the time and he felt that she had been messing with somebody else but anyway when we came in my mom rushed right over to to put him off of her he probably would have killed her had my mom not been there but she was able to get her him off of her and then in the middle of that she stepped in between the two of them and uh told him to back up but it's also was the same brother that had knocked on my mom's I really so your uncle had actually put hands on your mother yeah previously yeah okay so there was a history of violence between the two of them I don't know if it was violence between them but that incident had happened okay did you see that what had happened no I didn't see that okay I just knew you know from talking to her and hearing other people talk about it that that was the situation okay so she got in between them and then what happened well we were able to get out of the house from there my mom and my auntie my mom wrapped my auntie up and we were able to get in a cab and and and take off we hit it at one of my mom's cousins house and he came here he sent a book this house stories in the book how we hid and he came to my cousin's house and we hid outside on a ledge of the window when he came in and searched the house so he didn't find us and then eventually we went to my mom's boyfriend's house which is where my mom killed him that we were hiding in in his garage it was a makeshift house that was made our garage was made out of a little house and a my uncle kicked the door in and when he kicked the door in my mom pulled a pistol out and told him don't come no closer and you know one shot and he killed him and you actually thought that's not only did I see it but I also stepped over him because he had cornered us he had headed like a little kitchen section and so we were kind of like cornered in the kitchen with no exit the only way out was through the door that he came in it was a very small room and I had to step over him and I could hear him gasping for air and not knowing at that time that he was going to die because I didn't even know what dying was where to get hit I don't know I don't know I don't know they took me right out took me inside of the main house and you know the police came and took my mom away in okay that was an ass I knew about it was was she basically you know did she get off of self-defense at that point I believe that she did yeah she never went and she stayed a few few weeks in jail okay while they figure it out well we're not what took place not the guest well clearly with his wife being stabbed up and you guys running away and him pursuing seems like a straightforward yeah I think so I think I think it was should have been pretty easy for the cops to figure out but you know that was during the 60s it was a lot going on this is doing to watch riot time and and it was just so much going on at that time that I don't know what exactly took place how the court system went I never went to the jailhouse to visitor it really was for me it was really a strange time because we hadn't been out here that long and she was the only person that I had out here so now I was basically being kept by her boyfriend's mother which for me was a strange time and a strange situation you know to be with people that I really didn't know and my mom to be gone how did that affect your mom first of all to kill her own brother mattered it was it was self-defense and it was justified but we never you know we never talked about that uh none of the family ever talked about it it was almost like I don't know the taboo I guess to talk about it the only time in her ever mention it is when I got rid of write my book and I explained to her that I wanted to put it in the book would it be okay with her and because she handled it and she was like because I respect you know that some people may not be able to deal with something that you know of that magnitude but she said she was good with it and and and that's the reason I put it in the book how did it affect you to see a burglar happen or right in front of you well it taught me the importance of life you know a lot of times when I was in a position to have to decide if somebody should live or die I was able to make the right decision as you kind of progressed with your with your career and so forth when people ripped you off you know the standard way to deal with these things is murder and in that drug game but you never did that no nothing because I understood well you know I understood that for multiple levels you know I was fortunate for me that when I started selling drugs I had become a critical thinker you know in and I really didn't understand that until a couple weeks ago you know I got a couple babies that play tennis and I I started letting them get coached by one of my old teammates and he he invited us up to UCLA for camp and the the coach from UCLA was speaking to a group of kids and he was saying that in tennis you're making 60,000 decisions every tennis match I believe if I may be quoting the numbers wrong but anyway that was a high number of decisions that have to be made at any given time and what that told me was that from playing tennis making those decisions every single day turn you into what is known as a critical thinker and I was able to weigh decisions out quickly and and and make decisions that a lot of people can't make saying that you know that was incidents where people hold us money and you know say offenses like one time one of our suppliers had hooked up a deal and then we wind up getting cakemix yeah I think he mentioned that in our first interview yeah they look seventy thousand dollars with the cake maker oh I'm chasing a guy who who got my money in the car so when when I get back to where the guy was who was setting up the deal my guys and beat him to a pulp he and he's covered and and they thinking about killing him and you know I had to come to terms with with them and and convinced them that we couldn't kill him you know that it wasn't first of all I didn't believe that he was involved Ripoff and the other thing of how much it would cost us if we killed him so you mentioned you were there with your mother and her boyfriend where's your father during this whole time my father was living in Texas okay were you were your parents married or no they were married before well they separated when I was four months old so I never lived with my father well for four months probably I probably live with my father okay so we didn't we didn't have a relationship we didn't you know we just didn't we don't have a relationship you know there was no father-son okay the whole time to this day yeah I think I spent one week with him when I got out in 93 I think I spent one week with him and that's it yeah yeah just you know I had never spent time with him I didn't know him but I did kind of want to know a little bit about him and I was glad I did spend that time with him he passed while I was in prison but I found out you know that he was a hustler and then from from LA time or the co I found out that he used to be a bootlegger so we kind of practice similar trades and yeah in some forms but but he was he was a definitely a hard worker he didn't mind working and you know we had a few things in common you know a lot of times when I talk to people who who end up getting involved in the streets you know they say it's because they didn't have a father around and that the og in the neighborhood became the father figure in a way you know do you think that if you had a a father in your life the whole time do you might have chosen a different path it's hard to say if a father would have made a difference my thing was more economics you know it wouldn't have mattered if my father would have been here if he wouldn't have been able to show me how to strive economically I think I probably would have wound up in the same position because as long as I can remember I wanted money right you know since I was I don't know four or five years old you know I just us two bottles even though I didn't know what to do with the money at that time I would go make the money and go buy candy and tater chips but at the same time I knew that you needed money to buy potato chips and candy and soldiers and and and that's what I was going to do to get that because my mom didn't give me the money to to get it yeah and today you have eight children yeah eight children and I think I got 13 and 14 grandkids Wow and it seems like you're involved in their lives I try to be happy if they let me I want to be a part but you know I have I have one daughter who doesn't want me in her life you know I mean but we could you know if she needs her car go to the impound or the repo people get it she called me they dad I need $300 kick in and I go to Scranton to make sure that that I can help her whenever whenever I can what what I want to do with my kids is really just give them opportunities afford them the opportunities and the insight to do whatever it is they want to do you know I understand that everybody don't want what I want and everybody shouldn't want what I want right and I try not to impress my wheel on others you know because then you become a dictator and I don't want to be a dictator I just want to enjoy life you know and keep breathing so you know you've always talked about playing tennis when you were younger um you know tennis amy yeah but you know we were you ever around like this Venus and Serena were a lot younger they around Venus and Serena you were arriving at Serena and her father that their father I know they found them okay I know both I know I I remember when think when I met them we also go to tournaments together my kids my older kids and Venus and Serena played the same tournaments my my nephew still works out I think we okay I don't think your kids one of those tournaments time at that time at that time they party could have beat me in this interview oh really my kids were good I had a sign that was ranked four in California he was eight he was wearing 4 into 10 and under okay and I have one they were twins and the other one one was ranked 4 one was ranked 8 I had a nephew that was number one in in the 12 and unders okay so he definitely would have beat him at that time okay he's the one that still works out I think with Serena oh really yeah okay so you saw that whole phenomenon kind of come together well Richard kind of took my idea oh really yeah well you know Richard started when Richard started Richard didn't really know much about tennis okay when I met him I knew more about tennis at that time than he did he became a tennis guru but he wasn't a tennis girl at first which he admits that I see in a couple interviews that he did and he was talking about how you when got books and you know he really studied the game but when we met him he didn't have the the tennis background you know that you would think he would have needed to to get Venus and Serena where he got him right because I remember hearing stories how he would have to pay like gang members to kind of guard the courts while they were practicing because they were living in Compton right right right what I stayed in they stayed in a pretty bad area yeah I played on those two tennis courts where well I heard they they they they play that most of the time but I don't know about the garden and tennis courts and all that highly possible you know but unlikely his for in my personal opinion you know fair enough fair enough our Park was pretty rough too but you didn't need you know they didn't come over to the tennis courts and and gangbang on you know yeah on little boys or anything like that dear but you know I'm a pro can be you know you can get a stray bullet or something yeah you don't Serena went on about me both woman all to be phenomenal with Serena phenomenal being the best female player of all time I think yeah I think I think Serena is the best right now ranked the best female player of all time which and she's my daughter's Idol you know my little daughter see I like Serena and she plays with Serena's racquets next time Serena's in town I'm gonna take her out so she can meet and take a picture with Serena so hopefully she'll be Serena's records that's what's up so at 18 you had a shop shot yeah was this before the the drug dealing or no yeah it was before okay so before you got into drugs you were stealing cars I guess yep they went it went really the cars introduced me to the drug business okay so so you had I guess a chop shop big enough to hold 20 cars I don't know it held quite a few cars 20 maybe maybe 20 cars so you know we saccade them in there and then we had like a little driveway to when we put them because we were painting cars as well we did paint and bodywork so we wouldn't just chopping cars okay so at 18 you had a full-fledged business like a semi legal business yeah I mean I got into that almost the same way I do everything else you know my guys took me to the Church's Chicken one night you know I never and it's crazy I lived in LA and I never know no this lowriders well you know that's more of a Mexican thing back then no no blacks were heavy in it oh really yeah but then they get it from the Mexican culture I don't know because we had some old lowriders you know we had a thin we had a earnest dog house you know rest in peace it was a good friend of mine honcho you know it was guys that had been low-riding Terry Carter those guys have been low riding for years they'll rest in peace rest in peace Terry so those guys did tarakudo you know these are putting the founders of the Bloods you know they have been low-riding so I don't know who came up with the idea you know but they were heavy in the low riding when I got started it was oh no some time would be fifty sixty hundred cars of the churches okay so you had this chop shop and then it got raided by LAPD yeah and you were charged with seven counts of grand theft yeah and you were facing 21 years yep but you beat it yep and how'd you beat it well what happened is when they raided the shop they were looking for a guy who had snatched a purse they wasn't looking for a chop shop so when when I saw the helicopter in I hear the cops walking all around the building I'm saying are they coming in so I took off running I run out the building trying to get away and eventually run me down and caught me they took me to the lady who who purchased they said they got snatched and the lady said no that's not him so technically they should have let me go right then instantly right because it didn't have worked right you're not the one so what they did is they kept me in the car and they started sorting out why was he running like that what is he running from him so they asked me why was you running I was just running where were you coming from oh that's my shop oh that's your shop well you're 18 years old you got a body shop and I said yeah and these the keys I seen here those are my keys so what they did is they went searched they took my keys and went search and they never asked me could they do it so when we went to court the judge stood out on the illegal search and seizure but they don't want to had to pay for some of those people cars in civil court and I got sued civilly and uh I wind up paying for people with cars who I'd cut up and cut tops off of okay well here you are eighteen years old and they're telling you that you're facing twenty-one years longer than you had been living at that death so you were scared to death scared to death literally had never been to jail was scared terrified yeah no money broke so the chop shop wasn't you didn't stack up enough to for the lawyer fees and stuff put my money in the lowriders well you know I had a fifty seven I had a convertible six they refresh fifty sixty three you know we took all our money and put in court we thought that that at that time we thought low riding was the greatest thing in the world you know I didn't want nothing else but to low ride I spent all my days and all my nights trying to low ride okay so you beat the case yep some people would say okay I just be 21 years I'm not gonna do anything illegal ever again but you didn't have that same mentality oh no no no I looked at it totally different I started selling drugs while I was fighting the case oh really yeah I had to I wouldn't win the case without you to raise the money I had to raise money for lawyers just to get to court every day you know it was wasn't easy getting the court so so I had to start doing something you know in the book I talk about how I was sitting on my mom's porch and Mike who had the Chop Shop Whitney he was he was going to court with me as well all my other guys they threw all their cases out because the business wasn't in their name they got caught inside the shop but they threw all their cases out immediately because their name wasn't on any paperwork my name I was so domed in and I put my name on the building that Lisa and Mike had put his name on so they arrested both of us so when he called me he went back to school and start playing football so when he called me and told me that he had this for me I was excited because I needed something else in you know I wasn't afraid not to get me back involved I knew I had to at the time when you started who was crack arty around uh they were they were smoking crack but everybody cooked their own crack okay it was and they would still eat the basin - they were still eat the basin I don't know if they have all the stuff on the table the ether and you know it was a big heavy process that they were doing at that time you know I mean this part is kind of hazy but who actually created the recipe for crack no i don't know no i didn't i know people people come to me all the time and say oh you invented crack no I didn't invent people say it came from the bay they say it came from the bay I heard that as well UCLA that's they say I don't know I know who taught me how to cook it you know I saw a lot of other people cook it before he actually taught me but uh Stephan one of my one of my little homie Stephan rest in peace he's the one who taught me how to cook it okay but they were already doing it when I started when I learned how to cook it okay you know and then when you hit the ground running you you became essentially one of the biggest drug dealers in America no no who keeps that you know exactly but but you were you know the prosecutor that - a massive scale you had a prosecutors say I was a major player in here in the game and and it was throwing that the early times - went when the weight wasn't as high you know at that time you know 100 keys was a lot of cocaine you know when I started in the seventies three grams was a lot of cocaine to me you know but now you know I was in jail with people who had 20 tons of cocaine you know so it's just a matter of who you talking to and and maybe he had 20 kilos at one time and maybe over my career I sold you know 20 tons of cocaine I don't know you know I didn't really keep stats and and I basically just did like I did tennis I was trying to be the best that I can be well you said the your only goal life was to get as rich as you could as fast as you could so you can get out the game yeah I got that from Superfly mmm yeah yeah I remember that there yeah I watched the movie Superfly and uh when he when he got out the game you know I said I would like to go out just like he did you know and and that was always my plan was to build myself up into a position to where I could walk away was there ever a point where you actually said I have enough money I'm gonna go to this one country that doesn't have a US extradition policy and just sit on island and and drink margaritas and leave all this crazy [ __ ] behind me but it's hard to tell a young young black man that who's been nowhere nobody's really talking much okay he thinks but you're you're pretty smart he thinks that a quarter goes up and down is the greatest invention that it was ever invented right but you didn't think that when you were at the height of your drug career I mean you were sitting I know I totally switched I mean I learned a lesson from that lowrider see I sit back and I looked I said man you know what that chop shop you made five six hundred dollars every day which was great money at that time and you have nothing to show for it so what I did I took my lowrider to the junkyard and they got this big crusher that crushes him I wish I would have say the car now because it's a convertible probably what about 50,000 right now right so but symbolically that's what she wanted to do I wanted to crush that mentality hmm by crushing your actual lowrider yeah you know the paint up on in the bottom I had I had candy paint on the bottom all the chrome career and was chromed you know and like I've been doing every night you come off stealing every night you work all day still in to put this car together in and that's all you got yeah so when I went into the drug business I said no I ain't gonna sell dope for no car right I mean at one point I mean I don't know if you get asked this question not but you know cuz when you're doing that you have a lot of money on the street you have people that owe you you have products you have product coming in you have this you have that what was the most amount of cash that you actually had where you could say okay I could take this bag and just leave you know really really when I started I only wanted to make $5,000 okay I'm going to get the wheels for my car that was our player we will get some some Cena's for our car which costs like $3,200 Zenith wire wheels yeah I was gonna finished paying Mike for payment and you know get my interior out and and it's crazy that all of these things that I'm telling you that I'm wasn't gonna do all of those had connections to the drug business right all of those were things that eventually play a part inside of the drug business so technically you know I could have walked away at 5,000 but what happens is once you become exposed and once your mind and start started to open and start to see things you know my mom my mom put me out right my mom put me out the house and she found out then I was selling drugs so I come home and she's kind of my money I had like 100 grand I never counted it you know I just been like reopened throw it in the shoebox we had overcome the shoebox so now I become a pile of dirty clothes have become my safe so we just piling everything in and me and our partners at that time you Maddow but most people don't even they don't remember him but he meant him with like this you know he was my partner when we stole cars and we became partners in the cocaine business but one time I had to point I mean 3.2 million I stay at the motel at tie shop body shop junkyard apartment buildings houses 3.2 million this is the 80s yeah so this is the equivalent of maybe six seven million today I'm like 84 Shh yeah six seven eight million dollars today an amount that you could retire off of yep and still live a pretty nice lifestyle you know literally live the rest out you know the right way I'm if though I probably would have been living like a king because I had tow trucks I mean I race cars fast bikes so but there was never any serious thought about saying I'm going to take all this money and go retire somewhere at that time I never been scathed by the police well what I want to say is for example um there was an interview that we have on our YouTube channel I didn't do the interview personally my friend ko Vario did it but he interviewed big Meech from BMF Meech had somewhat of a similar story and he asked him flat out whine you know why didn't you just take the money it just goes somewhere where there's no us tradition I was myself I could've did it I could have grabbed the fun communities have been on somewhere where you can't be extradited but that one when I was awful I was out I've already played a legal gay into the footers so now I was trying to legitimize me and the whole family I mean I was 37 years old when I got picked up so I'm I was slowing down anyway cause I was getting kind of tired but when you the face of the family that's the one thing that I was done even at 37 years old even though I'm still hopes I've been doing it so long like I'm I was getting kind of tired you know you know me I'm popping field smoking weed drinking the partying freakin getting money got lips going up and down the road you know and I'm doing everything to make this finally successful and everything we do with B everything everything we do thousands of these you know understand yeah and I understand that to hear well your family do and not just your immediate family because but your crew everybody they do keep you they do keep you into the game because they start to depend on you but but I I still could've did it I still couldn't any what my problem was is that I had never been scathed by the police you know the police had never raided my house but you were facing twenty-one years before so but that was for GTA still drugs I felt in and at this time was before the feds that came in so it was one time that you was being taught that the only way you could be arrested for drugs was if they caught the drugs on you you know this was before we knew about the conspiracy charges that the RICO Act and the RICO Act and all that stuff but it all all that all that balls around conspiracy right because for example you know we were just talking about big Meech they didn't catch him with anything right you know it was all Rico it was all people conspiracy no conspiracy is the is the is the is the glue yeah the RICO is just a statue right but yeah it was all conspiracy you know very people saying he did it and he but then right that's the culture he had a plea he ultimately plead it out to correct that's the conspiracy though yeah the conspiracy is that for instance I exceptions and when I go to court the judge is gonna tell the jury or the prosecutor is going to tell the jury well we're never gonna catch him with drugs it's not going to happen we're not gonna catch him with money because he always tells other people to carry the drugs and they carry the money so in order to tie you to the drugs they have to tie you to the conspiracy saying that you and this person had a meeting of the minds and and you can have a meeting of the minds and do very little and get the conspiracy yeah I mean for example I interviewed Biggs from Rockefeller he was the co-founder along with jay-z and Dame - okay and he went to jail for some sort of marijuana growing charge which to me was mind blowing because it's like yeah this guy's a multi-millionaire he's the co-founder of Rockefeller and Rocko air and armadale vodka and everything so I interviewed him I asked him I said what what was that about and he and he told me flat out he said so what happened was it was a conspiracy because I connected somebody from New York to a farmer in California I was actually buying dispensaries and I was going to buy I was looking to purchase some of these farmers houses as well to sell to the dispensaries thinking I'm building a vertical business but in that time it takes three six or nine months to get up and running so a friend of mine asked me to connect them with somebody and because they connected even though they didn't do a deal they spoke about it on the phone that's a conspiracy and I conspired because I connected them aiding and abetting yeah that's all that he did a few years okay if you give me your car knowing that I'm going to do a drug deal you you got the conspiracy Wow they can tie you to whatever crime I commit if I go out and kill somebody you can get the murder yeah if you knew that that's what I was gonna use your car for right because that's the meaning out of mine right and there's four people that said the Vlad knew why he was giving Ricky the car then now right or if the jury's just believe me you know they don't need four people if the jury just believe me over you or if you don't testify and they just believe my testimony and then they can find you guilty it's ugly your own offenses so when you start dealing with a bland on how do you process the name I don't Danilo Danilo Blandon el fondo a name that I'm sure you'll never forget no another one of those situations how did you get linked up with him initially uh I was dealing with with a guy named Henry and Ivan when I started and I even got shot and paralyzed and and Henry was was always like a drunk you know stage drunk but I met Henry first and Henry was scary too you know he was he was scared you know party hadn't had much contact with blacks and he turned me over to Ivan and then eventually when Ivan got shot and paralyzed and Henry turned me over to uh Danilo who was the plug essentially and you had no idea that he was financing the war in Nicaragua I didn't know that they were financing that they were fighting a war in their country I didn't know there was the Contras or I was Nicaragua no okay but ultimately that's what was happening he was taking in the drug money that you guys were making and financing a war in South America yep when you found that out how mind blowing was that well I didn't find that out I was in prison oh okay looking at a life sentence okay I didn't know until Gary Webb had put the story together and and published the article or Dark Alliance I was baffled you know that uh that this guy was tied to the United States government I mean I couldn't believe it even when when Gary published a story I still found it hard to believe and then especially me too you know when I come home with how you Ricky Ross get this know like so he was working directly for the government he was the operative you you know if you if you were foreign nationalists and and you don't have your citizenship then you can't work directly for the government you know you have to you have to be what they call it as an operative meaning that they can hire you but you don't work for the government okay he was being paid he's been paid by the government yes I wasn't gonna pay him millions I don't remember I mean we talked about you know monies that and we came you tests received from from George Bush and Ronald Reagan but we didn't find out exactly what amount of money he was paid pacifically and you know he was saying that he was a patriot to his country so he probably would have did this for free yeah he's pretty pretty deep yeah and when the whole thing blew over what was the name of the the guy that had to testify who didn't recall anything oh uh I can't think of his name Oliver North was the Ilene Oh after you hardly know Oliver North yeah the North was he was the guided he was ready to fall guy you know he he car like what's going on with with with Trump right now with Cohen and uh and uh and in Trump's lawyers and you know and Flynn and all those guys but at that time you know I guess Reagan we'd had internet too you know so a lot of things were different in and they were able to keep it quiet and out of a North knew that he was getting a present a president reporting from George Bush so you know they pardoned Oliver North and it's the first time to that that type of situation ever happened and no investigation ever took place because he pardoned him before it could even be an investigation we're almost been like if Trump would have been smart he would have pardoned Michael Flynn and : all those guys are pardoned that all of you guys partners you know well then stop then you don't even need to do an investigation because they all got partners and this was Bush Senior yeah I was so Bush Senior pardoned Oliver North yeah because Bush was really in on it I mean allegedly you could say that I don't know I don't know the facts why else to be partner seriously I mean you know everybody got it got it use their own common sense you know about what took place with that you know the CIA said that we knew they were selling drugs but we didn't sanction it you know when it's your job to stop it and then you also go to the Attorney General and give a letter and say hey we know that if we know if somebody's selling drugs and we don't stop them is against the law hmm but that's doing this here and that's changing law for a little while right because essentially from from what I understand you can correct me if I'm wrong was that the u.s. wanted to fund this this war in Nicaragua they didn't have the actual funding from the government so they used the drug money to finance what the government wasn't giving them correct correct they they said that they gave him 18 million dollars to fight a war that Russia had gained the Sandinistas a hundred million right and this was in the 80s where essentially the US and Russia were at war but since they couldn't fight each other directly they would have these little wars and countries like Vietnam and Nicaragua every and wherever else and we would just fund whatever side right cuz I won at what point we were funding bin Laden in Afghanistan it was one of our guys yeah I guess Russia and then you know look what happened ultimately yes which stuff right that that's kind of what happened over in Nicaragua yeah but we picked the wrong side and we picked the losing side so okay so the side that America funded ultimately lost even with all the drug money and everything else like that correct and that's why those guys fleed from there he came over here Wow and in order to get their country back they really started selling drugs full steam ahead right well you know as as Danilo said and we can room you know said when he went on a fishing trip with George Bush and came back that the ends justify the means yeah and Oliver North this year was actually made the president of the NRA her after having a show on Fox for like 15 years it's got a funny how certain people end up in prison and certain people end up with TV shows like what's the Barden's it's about you your your your ties and your plugs you know who you know who you don't know how much money you got you know all those things play a big role in this you know in this system you know if Trump was anybody but Trump for all perspectives he would be in prison right now and he still might be you never know you know I think so no I don't think so well it and what's interesting is you know you mentioned Gary Webb he was the one that wrote the article exposing all this he somehow committed suicide by shooting himself in the head twice which may he is amazing you know I don't think has ever been done before I guess the medical examiner that was their conclusion that he committed suicide by saying it was possible he shot himself in the head twice yes yeah amazing you think he was assassinated I mean I would refer to that you know I haven't saw the police report or the coroner's report or anything like that but you know just from my logical sense that you know that I've been living if a person shot himself in the head what do you have the wherewith to pick the gun up and say you know what you didn't kill yourself do it again I mean that's that's really amazing for a person I mean his determination was if you were to make a wild guess as to who killed him what would you say somebody who didn't like he didn't like what he said so it could have been a number of people you know I mean he implemented a Ronald Reagan he implemented Bush he implemented out of a North he implemented the CIA I mean you know he put a lot of names in his articles so and those guys are still living you know Ronald Reagan was living when he did that article he wasn't yeah it wasn't disease right and as far-fetched as you may think it is I mean right now in 2018 you saw that one journalist killed No yeah and you he was in Turkey at the time but all the reports including the CIA said that the king of Saudi Arabia was a crown prince of Saudi Arabia was the one that planned you know that absolute that hit up absolutely yeah he said he didn't right he should I mean who's gonna miss yeah I mean he go down down in a their lineup who's innocent and everybody in they're gonna put the hands up and this is why it's important you know you know the this drives me to do the type of interviews that I do isn't that like you know you and you know and you do take a day you know you take a risk no question when you interview certain types of people and talk about certain certain issues like you know people don't like me you know over interviews that I've done but it just is what I can tell on the streets yeah they all talk about you what do you look like how is he it's amazing you know when when I first started doing your shows I thought it was just like another you know podcast yeah a couple hundred people watch it and that's it yeah yeah but you millions of years later I go out on the streets and people were like man you Rick Ross I saw you all I was like what no I still got a reach I'm in Miami they talking about you in Texas and you know cuz we did a book tour last year you know we stayed on the road for about eight months mmm you know every city we went to and it was like we saw you on the air we saw you we saw you I thought it was gonna be the been--they American Gangster but it was no man I mean you kick up dust man we got the streets we got you were able to avoid the police for a long time because you had better equipment and they did no no you wouldn't say that was just smarter than him really yeah explain what well you know the police had an image of what they thought a drug dealer should look like or how a drug dealer thought and my thinking was totally the opposite you know when when I was in the game I was in the game not just for myself but for my whole my whole block and you know I practice a thing of not over shining my friends you know I don't want to I didn't want to just take my money and and I look Richard and then they're my friends did you know that wasn't what I was doing it for you no I wasn't doing it so that I could snap my nose at the people who didn't have I was doing it to get myself in a position to where I could live comfortably for the rest of my life and never had to do nothing if I didn't want to that was my goal so the police wasn't used to anybody doing that they was using the guys who wore all of their wealth on their neck on the car or the car with a clothes but I told you what I did to my car and not only did that do the car but that also did the whole look the whole persona right because people actually thought that you were one of the smokers they did yeah I mean some guy did folks a couple weeks ago Elliott this dude guy Bosco did a post a couple weeks ago you know and uh I was by my tire shop my car shop where I fixed my car is that in and you know I had on the hood he just like always doing I'm standing the middle to Allie poly probably giving orders directing traffic Oh put it over there they're doing it you know I'm always doing that and somebody took a picture passing by a thing and and this guy Bosco posted it up and said look at him look like he's looking for a ten dollar hit with only seven dollars Bosco has been by the show oh yeah I mean you can you hook us up yeah done deal I thought it was so funny when somebody told me I just fired laughing I was like oh like that thing I like that but uh anyway everybody else got on him about it was like man this dude looked like that when he had millions yep and that allowed me to avoid the police because the police wasn't used to having to figure out who the drug dealer was you know it's really easy to see who the drug divas are and south-central you know he's driving a mercedes-benz or a Porsche or Lamborghini and me I would just go borrow one of my friends when I wanted to go out yeah I remember I I interviewed a cookie money he's from the bay he's a rapper but you know he has a you know a street background yeah and you know we were talking about cars and I mentioned to him that I had a Maserati at one point he goes I hate Maseratis actually Maserati was a car went to jail and it's my least favorite car that's the least favorite car the least favorite car no uh the accident of police say it's the most famous drug dealer car really the Ronnie yeah yeah that is that is right the you see you see a young black guy in a Maserati pull him over they will automatically assume that that's a drug deal oh no down no no no no he said that's why he hates those cars well I hate any any when I saw drugs I hate anything that shined yeah because I didn't want attention you know I had a Ford that I fixed out I made it look like a hearse just so people wouldn't look at it you know I found out that uh yeah when do you pull over a Hurst like you know what do you go find know when do you look at it you anyone look at it look at me I mean like I said I'm always I'm always thinking and looking so one day I was sitting at a stoplight and it was a hearse right next to me and I keep finding myself like glancing but I really don't want to look at it and then I was like wow that's the perfect disguise for a guy it's not a hearse I was watching man and get rid of those uh those phantoms and Benzes get you get you a hearse well you know even even when when the quicker cops were going to court one of the things that they testified to was it took them a while to even believe that it was that kind of money in south-central you know it was only after they started saying to guys with the Benz is and and in those cars that really tipped him off to know that we were having that kind of money well you had the police shoot at you before a few times a few times how many times total I think - okay and you were actually unarmed every time every time yeah the only time I really carried a gun is if I went to like the skating ring or party somewhere I was going to be by myself and vulnerable basically when I saw drugs sign I had no gun well the guys with you had does though yeah you know tell you guys just ran around other armed everywhere no no no we were heavy we were heavy armed you know but what I'm saying is that the guys that we sold drugs to we didn't worry about them yeah worried about the know about yes who wasn't part of our business you know would be the guys that you would have to worry about well interviewed big you thank you my man you know who's a affiliated with enrolled 60s and he was in jail like for a stretch like before crack showed up mm-hm and then he came out when crack was already on the street I mean when you got out of prison okay you guys were close we were cool and we were we wasn't caught you know I'm I'm from South Central LA yeah my neighborhood is hoover hood and he from 60 they like archenemies but you know I were able to I was able to cross the line mm-hmm you know I knew PD whack which is huge big homie cat so you know I knew I know most of them but the one thing he said he noticed when he got out and crack was all over the street was that the level of artillery was now different so when a woman actually hit was like 83 and I came back home 84 and we went from being able to just and it changed it because two things have the major the influx of guns and the different kind of guns but then like the automatic automatic because we hadn't even seen automatics we won't even have an automatic and especially like what the most we was we was inflamed by the nine-millimeter from the movie that came from New York was um king of New York when um Laurence Fishburne had the nine millimeters in the king of New York he's like oh yeah what you know me because we come from the clean-ish where the the pistols in the fo5 and the magnums so when crack came all the different movies came that influenced the culture at the same time yeah yeah it did it changed was that just because the drug dealers had more money to buy these things or was the level of violence just so much more escalated uh money to buy no so I mean because we had guns there that we never use but we weren't an impression that we may have to use them you know we had Mac teens fully automatic Thompson's aks I mean we had the money you know our arsenal party was in hundred fifty two hundred thousand dollars just in guns there were stories a couple people have said these stories I know a trade he said it and also BG knock on and race it said that they've always heard stories where crates of guns would be found in the hood ain't bring a train out there just full of goods you know and you just have that people just hit the trade and you know next thing you know you'll hear some hood somewhere you know selling you know new 9 for 300 you know I'm saying on they got a case over here for 700 and you know just like you know always mysterious crates of weapons popping up throughout the ghetto I heard from ROG that they used to find barrels of guns along the train tracks yeah just sitting there goosies like fully automatic guns but like just sitting there for people to find little kids and ghetto throwing rocks on the train tracks what they do stumble across a whole barrel of gun so you think the government I've left him there I've heard those stories too I never saw that you'd ever saw that no ok but you have heard of those stories I heard those stories yeah yeah III mean we bought guns from Danilo he was the first person ever show us fully automatic weapons because he had the whole right right but I never saw you know crates of guns I've heard of the train stopping in the hood which weren't with guns on him I know I think Maxine Waters talked about it before train stopping and being unhooked full of guns so I've heard our stories but I haven't saw with my own eyes we had a little D Auto Show recently Darryl Reid yeah and he actually talked about how he met you the first time some it's got a freeway rig right when I met him he was at his auto station wagon you know and you would dress like a bum but they told me that it was easy mo you know he would look like a bum but he did money right so I met him he say man how old is you and I talked with him and he said uh who you know who sent you down here to do business I said man this is I'm doing the business you know yeah man I remember they was telling me about the nudie hands like this load oh man I think he must have my 18 years old yeah really oh it was young I was young too I was probably only about 24 23 something I was still young myself but you know he was really ugly yeah he was really young he was running it at like 16 and then kind of built up at him he was essentially the crack king of Oakland yeah yeah he was at that time he was spending six hundred thousand I think maybe at like 18 years old so he was killing it and I remember I mean when we first met when I got in the car okay then we were riding in a van somebody picked us up in a van and and he was in the car and he was like man this is side to side aside she says he's from Oakland in I'd heard of his uncle already you know it wasn't actually his uncle okay Felix Mitchell we talked about the in the interview everyone thought everyone kind of assumed and ran with that story yeah technically it wasn't it wasn't exactly it was someone that took him under his wing okay oh but it wasn't actually Felix Mitchell wasn't actually so the streets is the bone itself and start singing their feelings Mitchell was my uncle okay so in actuality he's not my uncle and I've always tried to explain that you know all right well I was always in an impression everyone was the end of that was his uncle again I had never heard of D so when we met that day was like all right cool did you do you remember any the conversations you guys had was there anything that you could have tried a part on uh not really really I can't remember week we got we got tighter in jail ah okay when we were in jail together we got tighter then uh then we were on the street you know on the street it was more of customer buyer-seller relationship were you actually supplying to I have yeah okay okay here I'm getting caught on his 20th birthday and got a 35 year sentence yeah which he end up doing 27 and a half years ultimately getting clemency from Obama yeah that was devastating but um yeah he did a lot of him and he did just about all this time Obama really didn't do much shaved off a few years sent off a few years but D had walked it down were you already in prison when he got arrested no I went after him you went after him mm-hmm okay so here you are he was 20 you were like 26 27 roughly so here's a guy younger than you doing the same thing you're doing more or less and he just got this heinous amount of time yeah but you don't know that you know how would you know read the news I don't read the news I couldn't read at that time oh you couldn't read and I don't watch the news either okay so you had no idea what I didn't know okay when I found out I don't even know if I knew D I went to jail you know I knew hereo was in jail you know but you know hereö was in there for the kidnapping and attempted murder and then I know when Bo had got arrested you know that was all over the over the news and everybody was talking about it bo bo Bennett okay but I didn't really know and I only know about Bo because people called and told me you know uh you know they just got Bo and they got caught that Mike and this and that so so I really didn't know you know I didn't keep up with the news I didn't know that that was a crack law I don't know none of that stuff if you had known how to read back that being as intelligent as you are and do you think that you could have avoided actually go to prison oh absolutely absolutely if if if I I believe that selling drugs is something that you do because you like the knowledge to be able to do something else and a lot of times we afraid to try other things because we don't think that we can do it well you know and that's how it was at that time I didn't feel that there was no other options for me so mine was do or die you know I'm gonna make it oh I'm gonna die doing it yep get Richard I tried yeah 50 cent yeah and you know and I remember when I talked to little D when I said what what separated you from the Felix Mitchell's in the freeway Ricky's and stuff like that and he said what I must say this what separates me from the guy like freeway Rick and a lot of eat the other guys who had a run and who made a lot of money all these guys were much older than me right none of them guys did what I did at my age and even though they might have been in the game hustling for many years I achieved what I did within a three or three and a half year period of time and a teenager in high school going to school so my story I can easily separate a story from these guys that we're talking about though these guys all these guys are much older than me right yeah and ultimately when when little D got arrested well number one he told me that when I got arrested that night accepted it right there and I said it's over like like immediately after getting one no in denial man I'm gonna beat this case it was the owners conversations with my older partners who told me man you jump off the porch you get caught up for whatever you choose to do you got accepted coincidence because if you tell we gonna kill you see that's what that's the cutoff I come from a bunch I come up on the different cloth and he didn't tell on anybody he had Ledger's with like 50 names in it and they were like what just tell us all these names are and so forth he said no yeah he was silent were you in a summer situation no I mean key pledges were you know summer situation where they asked you to give up a bunch of people well I was fortunate that uh my first time that I went that I had two cops on my case and in my situation they caught me I wasn't selling drugs you know I've never been caught red-handed selling drugs and go where they catch you with nothing conspiracy conspiracy good so I always felt that I had an opportunity to win and I had started this investigation on the cops before I ever got arrested you know I hired an investigator and that wind up being my my ace and hope so in my situation the guys that that they would have wanted had already been arrested and was telling on me ah right yeah I think he mentioned that last time yeah so so my situation was was was kind of different the second time they did as for cooperation and you wouldn't get to I didn't know nobody okay and I got Danilo brand on yeah you know and he went to prison no no he's working for the government so he he walked away right is he still alive no I'm sure he is yeah I haven't heard the deep past okay what would happen if he walked in the room right now oh nothing nothing I have absolutely nothing against he really know wasn't his fault see way I look at it is first of all I made the mistake of getting in the drug business that was my first mistake my next mistake was I went back into the drug business that I say I quit yeah so what he did is he only did what people do in the drug business they tale they set you up and for somebody to go into the drug business and not understand that which I was in the drug business and didn't understand it but I came to grips with it yeah I mean just recently in my own personal life I start thinking about all the people I'm upset absolutely angry at over various things that happened to me over the years and I started thinking about how there's one guy I'm so angry at over a fight we got in high school and this guy had committed suicide some years later and he's dead and I'm still angry at him Wow and and I started thinking like okay what's wrong with my head right now like why am I feeling this way over someone who's dead that well they'll never be any closure and what I realized at that point is that what I needed to do is take a step back and look at every situation and take responsibility for my role absent in all those situations not to feel like I was a victim and how this person wronged me for absolutely no reason to say well yes this guy did something to me but I was actually a fault also I did these things that led up to it absolutely and once I start taking responsibility for my own roles I started to feel less angry at the person and the situation and it made me feel better as a human well that's really how I got out of prison well you know I got out of prison that same way because once I figured that that I wasn't a victim and that I should be in prison for my actions then I realized that it was my actions that got me in and it could be my actions that get me out right so I started making the steps to - and it's crazy that I just talked to the lawyer who represented me just just before we got here you know you know he was asking me about somebody that I was mad and I was like mad any for what I'm mad at nobody you know I don't have anybody in the world and I'm mad at you know the first thing being mad is being out of control anyway yeah you know I never want to be a mad person true because once you become mad and you're no longer in control yeah you're just mad one of the things that the little D told me was that when he got arrested there was a lot of money and assets and so forth that were in other people's names and being held by other people but as the years progressed they disappeared yeah they start sin justify it to you and say well you don't really need it you just need commissary money and I needed it for this that in the third and over time all this stuff that people were holding eventually went away when you get on a time you have to trust somebody you got a people owe money you got a people haven't your properties and they know inks and what Georgia the guy I have a conversation with that did a bunch of you years do what I thought was yours family and friends they gonna spend that money money cuz I feel like you don't need it don't like they and they mind they say oh you needed some money to go to commerce and get on the phone absolutely same thing with the same thing same identical stories identical yeah so all these people that are getting locked up who think that they're their relatives and their homies are gonna hold on to that half a million in cash and that property in those cars you know about and when you when you when you when you doing it you thinking like you're gonna accumulate this stuff and when you come home you'll have that yeah but when you came out you had nothing nothing so all this stuff that people were holding was all gone zero that's my next book is about mmm I got out when I had how I had to start over right so you walked away you you came in a multi-millionaire and walked out is it dead bro no motels no apartment buildings no tennis pros you know all the things that I thought would would hold together and the people who were able to keep the property property became theirs in their mind that was their property and they were trying to give it back to you know did you feel some type of way about that no no you accepted it yeah I'm fine that's so great no you know what though C C C and D probably could could also answer this for you too when you talk to him if you talk to him again to lose your life and get it back and Andy didn't lose his life he had 35 years which is a long time but with me I had a natural life they told me I was never going out again that I would never be a free man so to now to be able to walk the streets and you know travel the country and what do I have to be mad about right have access to women that be audible imagine that for you know it'd be crazy right yeah sometimes you go you see a woman and she'd be ugly and stanking and I said man I kill for her and as Beyonce in prison right now hey they will kill you over her yeah yeah real tough literally literally I'm not talking I'm not talking in retrospect I'm talking about when literally take a knife and put a knife in you yeah so you come out dead broke were you on probation or rolling it on it's $200 they're connected bro uh we want probation or parole at that time or no I was on parole for I wind up one of doing a thing six years on paper I had eight okay so you're on parole for six years and you managed to you had to walk a tightrope yeah you know I always straddle the fence we're trying to go back in no I wasn't going I wasn't going back in um you know they took me back to uh to send me back you know with the filly and uh me and Jimmy the saint took a picture together me and Jimmy the saint wrote a book together called black Scarface because when I went to Philly he came out to the event with the book and we took a picture together and he took the picture and put it on Facebook and this was you're not allowed to affiliate not felony sin they were filming and he was especially with people you know are felons especially people you did time with so his Pio saw it called my Pio and they said we were in the joint together you know he went back over that picture yeah he went back over the picture well Mike my judge wouldn't put me back Wow seems like that's probably all he knows I mean this judge I had one this judges what's the word admiration you know when she saw me learn how to read yeah she saw me doing the law you know so we argue in court I told her I was coming back she said she'll see me when I get back when I got back she said oh you told me you was coming back so uh because you know when you when you when you're going off on the pill you know the chance of you winning your pill to swim tonight so when I walked out the door I told oh I'll be back and she was like oh I'll be here when you get here so when I came back she remembered that I told her that well once you got to the halfway house Floyd Mayweather Big Chill his Rolls Royce yeah how did you employ to even know each other I have a friend whooping it's a long story a guy that I did time with his cousin worked with Floyd senior okay he knew that I wanted to get into boxing so he told his cousin oh you know Rick want to get into boxing so his cousin was like all right I'll hook him up with Floyd senior and and then for I seen you hook me up with a little fluey so I was filling another prophecy right Floyd who went on to arguably be the best boxer of all time right now right now yep how did that feel we're all round the Rolls Royce with them and uh I mean fresh out the halfway house but what I had access you had access to that but worth I wasn't a rose where I wasn't impressed with the Rose Royce what what uh what I was hoping for was access to the industry you know boxing yeah I was hoping that Floyd would would open the doors and gave me access which he said he would you know Lord's about Floyd though yeah yeah you know he had it he had a disagreement with a friend of me and yours okay so uh he was getting back at him you know taking a punch you know okay a jab or something you know he can get at him but he never gave me the access that I thought that that I would be afforded and I also thought you know I mean for some crazy reason I thought that Floyd understood my thinking you know I was saying wow this guy's he said at that time he was still a pretty good boxer you know he was one of the top guys at that time and what I thought he understood the way I think because of who he was and he really didn't you know he had a cheap fantasy that he was able to to get off and he really didn't catch the jewel yeah you know because it was a jewel there he didn't understand I had just come off a victory probably one of the biggest victories that anybody can win bigger than a Super Bowl bigger than an NBA championship bigger than 50 fights and oh I just beat the United States government when they told me that I wouldn't do it right so I was riding a high like they said my man Reginald Lewis when he made his first billion they say he was walking in front of limo even when riding a limo he's going down the street like I just hit a billion dollars I'm the first black person you know in the world to have a billion dollars when I walked outside of that building I was like I just did it I ain't posed to be out that's why when so many people when they questioned me about how did I get out what are you doing here and I totally get it because I'm not supposed to be here I wasn't supposed to learn how to read I wasn't supposed to become smarter than my lawyers more than the judge and what's supposed to happen yeah here you are you know I am I mean when you look at when did you read the article - Jesse Cassidy with me in LA Magazine okay so well if you read that article it looks like I'm predicting the future I talked about boxing t-shirts : lying record labels movies you know my documentary number one document on Netflix right now I've been on the front page of Netflix for months great documentary by the way eight months I've been on the front page of net flat al Jazeera put that together right whether they're behind it I mean I put it together but you know no they put their name on it to put their name okay documenting was done we made out to do it right no I'll put that together speaking of of TV you know I know there's gonna know you when I say this but my favorite show on television you know fall I know this could annoy you when I say this I know this boo have you washed it off never never never what I'm not really in the fairy tales okay first of all because the story as someone who's watched it was watched every episode it is clearly the Ricky Ross story based on the I'm not saying okay you actually can you right you probably right but all the way to the there's a whole Nicaraguan contra with with a DEA agent you know like the whole but based on all the conversations you and I have had together this is so my wife used to probably did John Singleton probably because John Singleton actually met with you before the the show came out here had my script here at the movie script he read the book he bought one of my demo books okay he bought I had got ten books my book came before the book actually was delivered to me in in bulk they gave me ten demos well one guy paid me a hundred dollars for a demo book John Singleton I think he gave me fifty bucks for a demo book because I wasn't going to sell the demos and they made me sell them but yeah he and I ran into John too recently it was strange okay cuz you guys met up you guys were talking about doing a project together yeah I wanted John to direct my movie okay we're really the whole team wanted John to direct the movie and John Singleton's phenomenal regardless of the differences you know I mean could the snow fall almost looks like a higher budget boys in the hood you know has that same type of feel to it mm-hmm so you guys met up but he still missed the mark though I can tell you just from me talking to people he doesn't and I don't really expect him to you know to really get it because he didn't live it right you know so I was talking to some people the other day and it was like well what's gonna be different in this and snowfall I was like well I never saw snowfall but I can tell you this here it's no far don't know when think you got out of prison you know snowfall don't know a lot of the other things I'm gonna say too much yeah we tried to pick stuff up above snow he called me about three months ago it was like man we want you to come on as a consultant we run out of material he said no of course not now you know I don't want to save you yeah you know if you die you die on your own I'm gonna help save you though dangle brief anglebury - to you it's too bad it's too bad that you were involved in it cuz cuz uh like I said it is very very similar to your story down to the well we also read it also ran into the actor - oh the main guy he had a man guy British guy I was at Whole Foods one day and he recognized me and he came up and he said how much he wished that I was actually on the set with him yeah but you know if I would've been there they would have had to change the name from Franklin to freeway right yeah you know any meadow I'm not mad at the show you know I just don't support it and I already have time you know I don't really watch TV anyway right I'm too busy you know trying to turn the right movie scripts and and TV shows and you know just do my own thing yeah well like I said it's too bad because they did do a good job on that show and having you involved what I think made it that much better oh no no if they would have had me on there if people in America would have known it that was my story they would be getting the same kind of results that Netflix is getting with the documentary well you know and and it's funny because me being on the street I get to to know what is getting traction you know like I know how well I know how well your shows is like I never looked at your numbers on the Internet yeah not one time have I went on the internet and looked at your number right but you see the people that approached you right when I walked through the airport and people come up and they talk about you and they asked me what you liked didn't that tells me that we got tracks in here so the same thing when the documentary hit Netflix you know I could tell what a difference in me well well I guess the the TV series is supposed to be with the executive producers of power which my mine yeah that deal to expire it didn't work out no not yet they still they still they still on deck you know they they they want Kendrick Lamar to I said if I could tidy up with Kendrick Lamar and they would a right to check tomorrow Kendrick at appearance on power get a cameo mmm what episode but but you know I got other people that were talking to about about doing the series I really think that the Netflix it would be something that Netflix should should have picked up immediately but I don't know these people in Hollywood they just don't they I hate ya they just don't have to absolutely hate it in fact the reason why I launched flat TVs are that I just got sick of having these conversations with TV movies yeah you know saying this is why Vlad TVs self-sufficient and even to this day not a year passes where there isn't some sort of serious discussion over a TV deal or whatever else and they've never gone anywhere yeah I mean it's just not yeah they don't get it it's a hurry up and wait type of game and and they go with the norms you know who's been here who's been doing it that's always they go away and they don't really understand the people that they're selling these shows to and you know that's why they ratings be so low you know and and I totally get it now you were actually there on the day that Harry oh and Suge Knight first met yeah I was instrumental in getting them to meet oh you set up that me nope it's crazy Harry was doing Lydia's album right his wife and I had read an article where easy and dr. Dre was futile and I told Harry oh I said you need doctor training to do a track on Lydia and he said oh you right so that little spark put him in motion to find out how to get in touch with dr. Dre so I sparked the interest right in him in one to get in touch with dr. Dre which sent him to Ron Brown which Ron Brown put him in touch with how we were selling so it was like he was I don't know if he was still on the floor would I stand or not they might have been on foot with us at that time who are we down Tildy little dimensionally he knew Harry Oh Elsa the most brilliant guy I ever met in the streets that wasn't was Mike Oh Harris hereo out of Los Angeles that's the smartest business mighty dude that I ever met that come from the streets no we always in the building together we were in downtown LA together at the same time you know so that spark is what gave him the initio to to get in touch with uh which eventually turned out to be sure was Trey's manager right time so in my interview with big you he said that when I had no death row but what do you mean I love her to death but he definitely would have been moving around la like that cuz in LA at the time you wouldn't you wouldn't you wasn't saying blood you wouldn't wearing a red at that time you wouldn't that wasn't happening and you definitely weren't moving like that without major situations do you know what that means a taller well you know you had a lot of influence you know and the 60s was powerful yeah I mean even when I went to the scam ring one of the reason I took a pistol because I was going up there where the 60s ran a skating ring you know it was their skating ring well you know so I could see it you know if it had been on the music but you know that's the same time when any of us you know I slipped on hip hop you know I should have been the king of hip hop yeah DJ pool had took me to a house any when I went to dr. Dre's house for the first time I spoke to dr. Dre when I was in prison but I had never met him personally but when we went up to his house and met him he told me never that day that you came in that little apartment do you say I was there the greatest hip-hop producer of all time of all times yeah idea right there he was there Spade you know hip-hop was right there la hip-hop was was right there yeah you know so and I had the money I had everything you know I knew dick Griffey you know who ultimately helped launch death row we negotiated the deal with Interscope yeah you know I mean I had everything that a person would have needed I knew dick Griffin and Otis Smith 83-84 you know so if I would have only had two wherewith to stay into the music business and they begged me to stop selling cocaine to the dual relationship will show that all no I didn't mean Suge until he was coming in with David Kenner in the visiting room but it was Harry oh and David Kenner had figured out a way to to get you again because you can only only people they were letting in was immediate family members but some way they had rigged where he was acting as an attorney or a paralegal or something like that DEA to be able to to get in and I met him there the same data that Harry or Maddy you you had mentioned Terry Carter you guys were close military was cool you're cool we weren't running buddies but you know I know Terry well you know I knew Terry from from Church's Chicken I know big putting a new big putting well okay when you looked at the when you look at the sugar I situation we he ended up killing Terry yeah accidentally I guess but I think so accident I don't think that he would you know purposely killed the last founder of the Bloods you know he was like the last one you know in all that history is gone you know even putting when putting was in a convalescent home you know been putting used to talk on the phone and I was trying to get putting her to write a book you know because I was about of history that that our youngsters don't have now you know and Terry was really like the last person that could have wrote that book yeah so but I don't think the shield would have tried to kill Terry on purpose right but ultimately shook took a 28-year plea deal yeah that's surprise you he mustn't feel that he had to win you know well I interviewed a Reggie Wright who was the head of death row security who was talking to shook while he was locked up and the way he explained to me was that I talked to him a year a year and a half ago okay spoke to him once after the plea and what he's pretty much explained or say it was he would have had to win six times to not get life in jail win six times because there was six different charges it was three different charges but he would have had to beat those twice because they would have kept returning it was the alleged threat on the director do the alleged stealth which cat whales are played out to with the photographer lady and then the the hit-and-run and attempted murder cases right working with the life is over what I mean but for sure look at his age twenty eight years it's gonna get out of like seventy eight I think if you count time served or something like that yeah that's nice yeah if he makes it because I think it's not in good health even yeah yeah I actually thought he had a reasonable chance to beat it I felt I felt that that he would have had a chance to beat Aries because they said it they saw a gun brandished and that he was hit first with in some other people said it he turned around you know after he got away he was back in yeah which is kind of premeditated yeah plus it was kind of established that he was out there on the usual joke [ __ ] [ __ ] yeah you know pushing the line with people trying to you know get money out of out of Dre you know for using his image and stuff like that you know it's one of those things where if you're going somewhere - essentially commit a crime and dies in the process he's automatically guilty of that crime yeah totally I told you yeah that's kind of how the death row story sort of ended you know was should yeah getting some wages he had to run I could have hooked up with shield you know when I got out in 93 the sugar offered to help me - huh you know with the theater you know I was trying to open up the OTA - of on Crenshaw and Adams okay you know I went to do a hip-hop theater you know shook had offered to help me but then man hereo was talking every day and hereo and she'll have fell out I guess and he told me just hold up on sugar I got you and uh you know before I could make any moves I went back to prison you know when you when you interviewed with us might have been the first time you talked about how different black gangs are from Mexican gangs mm-hmm you say how essentially black gangs you know they have they have a shot-caller maybe in the neighborhood and so forth but they don't have the same level and so forth black gangs we don't know they don't have the leadership stuff like like look not like you know I mean I've been in a joint with them I never been around Mexican gangs before white gangs before they have leaders they have when they call shot-callers but it's saying that the Crips and bloods didn't didn't have that they don't really go by those rules you know they got a guy that may call the shots on two or three guys you know they're following but when you talk him out he's gonna dictate to the whole hood then anything that happened look black gangs don't do it if they did they would be a lot more powerful than what you know and what they've been I think one of the problems is lack of organization this is kind of been a topic that we've ended up running with recently when you know I talked to people like mr. criminal who's you know rapper who's affiliated with the sureños you know me and Trey D talked recently you know oh did you yeah yeah and he's a regular regular on the show yeah that's my man you know he basically said how the difference is and you know the obligation as far as being a part of a Mexican gang you have to do certain things that you can't even question such as giving example one main disorders you know it's just orders whatever whatever you say go go beat up that guy you gotta go you know you gotta go do it you gotta go do it gotta go shoot him gotta go do this it's not like that you know it's like you know no we gonna go shoot them you know I'm saying you know you know or if he's a little homey and did all depends on who's above him that's telling him to do it how he respects them there how he responds you know it's not it's not a do-or-die situation you know I said no nobody that's gonna what a gang take a vote and they take care of you with the Mexican gang they already had a loss yeah and you're gonna follow their loss yeah like you can't sleep in the cell with a black guy really no so gets the law a Mexican gang member cannot have a black cellie no he has we go to the hole so he has to basically fight that guy yeah or worse or something oh yes if if the numbers or level or it's gonna be a war then he has to go to the hole until a Hispanic say open up it's that serious if that serious yeah now you never been affiliated with anybody no you said you looked up to two key when you were when you were younger in the absolutely oh man I looked up to a lot of a lot of the guys yeah but you were never a [ __ ] of blood no anything else like that and I guess when you got to prison you were really the the pacifier in most situations where if they started well you said how I think I remember an interview basically saying like if you're playing basketball with somebody and somebody felt like they you know they got fouled or whatever they wanted to fight you you'd be the one to try to calm down the situation as opposed to like oh yes callate if he related to me right you know I usually don't get in other people's business yeah but yeah okay that's what you mean by it relates to me then and I don't want you know like the Hoover Crips claim me Hoover Crypt okay so if I have them something happens to me in jail then they feel that it's their duty to take up my issues if I'm saying it right okay even though you're not officially not at all and I tell them I'm not you know but you helped out a lot of all over the years so absolutely but I helped out 16 everybody in putting is my man you know me puddin was super tight you know the freeway task force got putting you know they put print pudding was one of guys who got out of prison when when I got the freeway task force indicted so so that's not saying you know that because I helped it I probably held more Hoover's out than I did anybody else you know but I knew more Hoover's you know when it wasn't it wasn't because of their gang affiliation is the reason I helped them that's not the reason just cuz you knew more of oh I got you so you never got caught up in any the game politics or anything else no no I don't see I don't see any one importance I mean you know it was a time like I said it I wanted to be a [ __ ] but it was short-lived you know you look at where we are right now do you know about the whole Takashi 6:9 situation I heard about it well Takashi got got arrested for for Rico you know federal racketeering gun charges and so forth did you go in for Rico or is there something else no they hit me I had what I have before continues criminal enterprise yeah it's similar to Rico had me for that 8:51 and conspiracy right because Rico is the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act yeah that's what he got locked up for having over five people and making so much money and in doing different crimes involved he was involved allegedly and various crimes they have photos and videos of him actually at the scene of the crimes they found items from the crimes you know in his home yeah one point he he said something on camera which looked like a hit you know he said I you know I got 30 bags on on this guy and then sure enough the guy gets shot at like I think a day later or something like that not to say that that's actually happened but this is what they're trying to oh what they gonna use that in court they're gonna use all this stuff that's what really really really hits me out about how people don't really pay attention to like rap music when these guys are saying oh I saw 300 kilos in if it was any possibility that the government thought that he was actually selling kilos they would use that saying 100 sort your music your interviews they have as you know Instagram live feeds they have everything they've never heard me say that on tape then I sold kilos yeah never but they still got you yeah well you know the conversation that they played in court between men danilo was I got him how much he knows I come saying that was enough to convince enough because the fellow come in he says when they asked him or what are you talking about you got him oh I'm telling my kilos what is he saying when he actually how much he's asking how much a kilo hmm well the feds have a I mean I've seen different numbers I've seen like 95 97 93 but it's always in the 90s conjecture and conviction rate you know 98 98 percent conviction rate when you look at this case kotaki takashi he's done he's done you don't see him getting take a deal take a deal you know when Meech was going to court you know meters right me really yeah Rosie say what what should I do I said I handle it and when he hit me and told me that they offered him 30 years and I told him I would take it you told him to take that 30 years yeah I told him I would take 30 years yeah I would have willing to take 20 on my case I interviewed a son big meet your son and I've been around big Meech before I've been at his house and you know the height of EMF they flew me out you know I was a DJ and they you know they were fans of my mixtapes and you know I guess the way he described it was by taking this deal he still had a chance to get out at some point absolutely you know the laws would change there's appeals well we take a plea deal there's no Appeals right no appeal right but there's the loss could change you still could do something you can do 30 years they got people done 30 you know I have a child a little d-did almost every you know I had a childhood friend who just got out 34 years you know so so you can do 30 yeah but a life sentence like right now I got a friend mr. Wallace from from Detroit and uh he was tied into young boys incorporated and he had 34 years at one time and he appealed to 34 years and a turnaround and gave him a life sentence who if he had the 34 years he'd be out right he'd be alright though ya know I've heard of cases where people get one year to life and 20 years later they're still there yeah welfare's life is his life it's no no 20 to life 13 I was just like know what they was gonna get meat was life okay he couldn't did 30 years and then come up for parole it wouldn't have been that my case was a life without the possibility of parole so there was no possibility of you know a law changing or none of that nothing that was gonna happen okay as this cases you know coming together you know the one of the guys that they got arrested with with Takashi shadi it was kinda at the head of you know the tre way label mm-hmm I guess told the judge we don't fold we don't bend we don't break it straight way hmm that's good if they don't when we used to sit in em - mmm and you know you would be going to court and the court is where they would bring all the people in you know through the through the Holding through the holding cells and they would take them back and fingerprint oh man and when we would be sitting in there we would see five or six people come in and you know they're talking it in the sale would be who's gonna break first because somebody's gonna break you know if you got five or ten guys one or two guys in that organization that's gonna break so he's basically saying that another ones are gonna break some of them come great someone's go break yeah how would I would probably chakashi I would break I would bet everything that I got on it that that one's gonna break really yeah and once how many guys on their case I personally know of I mean including Takashi and o4 gotta say more eight people and think I eight people I'll bet the two I'm gonna tell okay I'd be running a pet place a bet I don't get we should bet all this I bet the two of them gonna tell two people is going to cuz you know you start talking to people about and then you figure these are lower level guys and they probably didn't make much money you know you start talking about 40 years thirty years and you know and the prosecutor talk them out well we can get you out of here two or three Oh sounds pretty appealing absolutely I remember uh little D told me that when they when they arrested him and he had a baby that I guess was born a couple of weeks after he got arrested they offered to take him his girlfriend and his baby and put him in protective custody you know put him in um what do you call that non protective custody um what witness protection yeah they offer to put him in witness protection moves like Idaho somewhere change his name so fourth he said no he said it we got the drug Ledger's right we see all these guys that's doing business with what you write we won't these guys over here right help us get these guys will change your name we put you in protective with this program with whoever you want to go with you can go and you might do four years and I said man I can't I can't there's no way I can help you with that I offer you you say you know yeah but now you know I mean they let guys walk around you know I mean you know we talked about the guy on your show and a guy called me one day which guy then for me what's your for the super informant you know me telling you about this is it's a super inform you know this guy is like the biggest he was like DA's number two weapon a number three weapon in the war on drugs a guy by the name of Andrew Chambers from st. Louis okay I told you Bobby before and he called me at that dinner show okay so and how what's your relation to Angela Chambers he told on you know he he tried to give me out he missed me that's crazy because he got he got a few my friends Hootie Hootie further out in Long Beach the group's wife's brother okay gotcha from grape Street Chauncey I mean he cleaned LA up he had like 20 guys knocked him off him damn all oh yeah told on everybody everybody yeah he called you from your show he saw your show okay and not through me by the way I don't know this guy is reaching your show right okay so he reached out like so I'm riding don't ride down the street one day right and I got a private call I take all my calls yeah you know because somebody owe me ten million dollars and I'm waiting on the call me so I get this private call and I was like Hello he was like hey what's up and I was like oh not much who is this he's like this the informant I was like this Foreman he said yeah and then forming the one you was talking about okay and I was like Andrew chambers he was like yeah this is Andrew chambers he's like man I won't do some speaking engagements with you what's he gonna say I said listen man throw my partner's want to kill you but it was it was crazy it was a crazy conversation but uh yeah you don't have to be in witness protection no more you know these guys they just let the people just walk around you know and and and be not told on everybody Wow you know maybe um I mean you know the word is is like Heenan telling me well so I think we're in my life because he told on somebody else yeah and and and really that's logical thinking I mean if somebody wanted me to go and ruin my life because my partner was selling drugs enjoyed it had a great time and when the consequences come because telling it's part of the consequences you know that's how we all go to prison somebody tell on us and he wants me to go and take care but a guy that told on him no don't even think about it yeah go ahead of that yourself right well you get somebody else and do it I'm not gonna ruin my life you know for nobody else yeah I mean this almost reminds me of you know I have these conversations a lot of times with you know some of the younger younger kids I interview on the show of how some people will refuse to call the police for any reason whatsoever and I would bring up the story of let's just say that somebody you know a serial serial killer killed your mother would you call the police on them a lot of them will say no and they say no I would out handle it myself yeah that's crazy and you understand emotionally why someone would do that but you're now creating a cycle okay so now you go commit murder and you know you you know you and your friends will find it justified but the laws not gonna find it you're still gonna go to jail for murder so now you're creating a revolving door into the prison system because you refuse to let the police know I have a friend his daughter got kidnapped and he was wrestling with a similar situation who you know should I pay the ransom should I call the police what should I do you know you know luckily he made the right decision he called the FBI and you know two or three hours later they had his daughter back well you know they was able to father the guys from the phone booth they was calling from so you know and everybody has their own thinking you know me myself I don't believe it you a snitch if your old lady and somebody do something you call the police right so you call the police cause if it was an appropriate situation uh I don't know if I would necessarily call the police because nobody really do anything to me you know I mean I'm in a position where where nothing really happens to me you know yeah but like let's say your house got robbed or your business got robbed I don't think I would I don't think I would call the police if they robbed my business okay you know I try to put my business in a position not to be robbed you know where where it's almost robbed proof in most guys who do that stuff you know they prey on the weak you know they don't really do things to people that can defend themselves where it's going to be a confrontation right you know it's mostly done against people who were weak and vulnerable and you know I try not to be weak and vulnerable but at all times though Chapo's on trial right now last I checked they haven't been able to find a single dollar of this drug money that you know they claimed it had the billions and his wife actually did an interview recently yeah I'm Telemundo I think where she claimed that she is had not seen anything illegal that he's done at all and this is a fabrication to bring down you know this great man that's been married to her he's done don't you think he's done oh yeah you never see forget it surprise wondering how just a regular working guy was able to get these tunnels remember what he was in the Mexican prison yeah a million dollar tunnel a million dollar turtle yeah I don't see it either but I don't I don't matter anyway you know his his situation is so so big that even if they violated his civil rights they're gonna override him yeah he's never gonna see light again no he never will do you think that locking up el chapo really does anything in terms of the the drama the drug operations between Mexico and in the US and so forth absolutely not somebody was waiting for Chapel to go to prison you know to take his place and maybe it might create five more you know it might be five little guys who were you know in the wings getting very little pieces but now they're getting greater pieces which will eventually bubbled up to be you know the next one I mean when you were when you were dealing Colombia was pretty much supplying the world with cocaine yeah right with Pablo Escobar yep yeah no chores in many years yeah but then at one point it moved into Mexico it seems like Mexico kind of took over yeah we believe that the Mexican Mexico took over after uh dr. Escobar that guy started robbing all the commands really yeah yeah we started hearing in prison eight different people were getting robbed and they eventually hand it over you know to a different sector of the community so that's how the Mexicans came in yeah and they were pretty much a little more ruthless were they they weren't getting robbed as much or I don't know if more ruthless Colombians were pretty ruthless especially Escobar yeah yeah what'd they say swore was Escobar's killing people you know when they here in the u.s. no they kind of like out of their their element somewhat you know especially when when they started dealing with the gang members you know from South Central LA you know kind of like right now you know what the rapper's say Rob you connect you know there's people wasn't ready you know they weren't ready for you to be you know it'll be robbing them the same people they selling the drugs to would now become the robber you know it's kind of throws you off a little bit yeah I mean that was actually my introduction to the drug game I did a deal with somebody and he robbed me no that was the end of my drug my drug career because in fact I just interviewed Bill Duke who did deep cover and I told him that movie inspired me to sell drugs you directed one of my all-time favorite movies deep cover thank you I had no idea all these years I've been such a mega fan of that movie I'll be honest I've said this before I actually got inspired I mean not in a good way obviously I actually got inspired to to actually mess around with drug dealing after watching that movie Wow Wow watch that movie I had a friend that was involved with some Street [ __ ] and I'm like okay yeah I'll be the the white business guy and he's the the street guy and I'm gonna do the Deep Cover thing and he ripped me off right away and I lost a bunch of money and that was the end of my drug-dealing career and it was gay the movie again you know was based on a book yeah I heard about that it was literally a one and done yeah you know what I freely admit it like you know I'm saying the guy came in I put up the money and he basically robbed me and that was the end of that yeah well it definitely is ruthless you know and in retrospect I'm kind of glad that it happened yeah because had had this not happened and I somehow got more deeply involved in it however with the phrase yeah I probably would have went to prison yeah I was able to just walk away with losing some money and yeah you know it's worse when you do good yeah it's worse than when you do good you do good it's worse because then you get that mentality this is the way it is and it's yeah it's gonna be and it was a very and I remember what had happened it was like it was a very interesting kind of thought pattern that went in a psyche well I can't call the police I have to somehow handle this through violence in order to somehow fix this and I was that's the bad part about being at rug being there too is because the robbers know that yeah they know you can call the police you know and and that kind of puts you in a really vulnerable situation you puts everyone in a vulnerable situation if you are willing to do that violence then now yeah it takes your crime to a whole nother takes it to a whole different level yeah you know I mean because the violence is what kind of trigger is the police you get on the police radar if everyone quietly so drugs and no one guy steals and you know and that's usually how most drug most successful drug dealers carry it even though they like to portray a different a different scenario you know what happened is that the Colombians had got used to doing business with a certain group of blacks but then when those guys were gone knotti looking for the next guy and now they're dealing with guys who were really robbers and yep in gangbangers and it's a difference that there were just used to robbing people that though that was there exactly yeah like tradie he said he did not have the patience to sit in a trap house all day why the robbery over or the dope-dealing because it seemed like the dope dealing is easier I didn't have patience and not only that you know I'm not a sick steel kind of person it's hard for me to like you know just you know not be mobile and involved in you know interact so just sitting up and and I'm not a you know a gamer and nothing like that so you know and sitting here was like to me sitting inside of a dope house waiting on the police to come kick the durian I waiting on somebody like me to come kick the door in and get it you're not saying it was like you know that's too much tension you know I mean so I just didn't really take to that lifestyle right and for a lot of people you know yeah I've known a whole bunch of guys to get out of prison and that becomes their mission well just Rob drug dealers yeah who are they gonna go to right you know yeah man but uh El Chapo is done huh yeah yeah he's done you know he'll never see the streets again yep straight to ATX yeah yeah what's actually kind of funny about the whole situation is that he got caught because of an interview with Sean Penn I saw the whole thing I'm also news now y'all I mean like what was the model that got him yeah he wanted the motto yeah but he was basically he agreed to do an interview while on the run from escaping from a maximum security prison I'm crazy no you could have potentially still be free still be freed right now get some plastic surgery you know he had enough more than enough money to do whatever he wanted he could be chillin he was you know was was a kid from Mexico who had never been nowhere you know just found a pipeline you know and and started filling the pipe up you know yeah well you know he's making millions but just because you make millions don't mean that that that you know anything money don't make you smart yeah I mean look at Donald Trump yeah pretty much so uh it's a freeway you actually brought an artist that you're working with yeah yeah well you know I'm still fulfilling that prophecy that I did when I was in prison with that life sentence getting into the music business you know I didn't dipped in in a few times but I haven't had to success that I know that I can correctly think of permissions last time the gyro from Alcoholics you have signed to you back in the day where they should have been assigned to me we didn't we didn't finish the contract yeah but I was the one that got them to oak in risking Oh sea brisket steamers Rifkin yeah but you got a new guy here now COO yes sir okay how'd you guys link up linked up to Hayes I came out here I lay a couple months ago actually for the first time I never been on a West Coast at all straight from the East Coast I didn't know nothing was gonna go on I just came out here off a faith furrow I came over here I linked up with uh somebody from my city his name is Hayes and can hit me up what's it is that York Pennsylvania okay that's like an hour 45 minutes from Philly and so I came out here Carlene it's done I seen her I was like oh y'all my hair let's link up looks like word he knew I was on my music stuff heavy groan and stuff so he was like I got a show for you you gonna put you on his show so I came out here and I don't even know his Rick Ross is gone being a hair Freeway Ricky I don't even know he was gonna be there so when he showed I was like oh it's late so I had you just put on a good show and it was just rockin with me from there okay and what was it about him that made you uh well you know I said it I wasn't gonna really get into the music business ATAR got my money up you know there was so much fake stuff going on in the music industry that that uh I just kind of like got fed up with it and I just I was just gonna wait and talk got my money up and then haze had hit me up and he was like man you gotta listen to this kid man he the one and I was like I really don't want to listen to no music I get like 40 Texas every day with somebody they the ones you know right and uh finally Hayes got me to listen to the news got thing we might have been I don't know what city we was in was Chicago we riding in the car in Chicago and like I don't even listen to music you know and so Hayes was able to put the music on the radio and then I started to listen to and I was like this kid dude he got something he's different you know he ain't like you know he ain't selling dope he ain't gang banging but he's making some good music you know and I've been looking for that you know somebody that's not gang banging it's not a drug dealers it's not a hit man you know but just can can can just take life in and put it into a song you know and make it fun and that's what I feel that he brought to the table and and that's why I was willing to bring him with me today okay so many other artists did that there's gonna be mad around when he was around and you know they're gonna say they did such and such for me and but at the end of the day they just didn't hit that core that I was looking for it you want to sing a little some don't want to sing so my gosh you let's see I'm listening I'm saying something originally from you good girl can you tell me what's been on your mind cuz lately you just haven't been a same girl I can sense that something's gonna know what girl can you let me know either way baby I'm trying to show you something [Music] all right that's what's up that's what's up man well you know I see a lot of a a lot of artists you know come come through over the you know really year 15 15 plus years I've been in there man and you know all the takes of that one song that once once you hit that one song and it reacts and you got you know all that work in the chamber you know takes out very quickly you know but sometimes it takes a while yeah I've been music for a good nine years next year I make my tenth year and two years ago stuff just started taking off I dropped a song and then went viral on Facebook had 17 million don't my man yelling very shot at the young verse and these last two years I've been doing a lot least coastwise went on tour with can be rock we did like a five six show toy okay dope yeah I dropped a song mr. kair last year poke a song with a little yoyo yeah man we'll listen keep grinding man keep running some process you know it sounds like you got that you got the ability you got good people in your corner man you know all it takes is just that one that one hit that's just undeniable and you know they're gonna see you know it'll be like what Floyd said when you see me you're gonna see him this don't be real when they see me you know they're gonna see him we're gonna be hitting the road you know I'm gonna be on my to again in a couple months when this new book come out riding with Rick so he gonna ride with me you know because a lot of times I go in the club I can do whatever I want to do in the club alright we're gonna be spending his songs wherever we go and uh and then you get his performance on and just crying we're gonna grind our way in you know grunt ah that's what it is man well Freeway Ricky Ross not cool man three seats y'all coming through til next time face

Channel: djvlad

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Keywords: VladTV, DJ Vlad, Interview, Hip-Hop, Rap, News, Gossip, Rumors, Drama, Freeway Ricky

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Length: 127min 29sec (7649 seconds)

Published: Thu Jan 24 2019