Which GPU is right for you? Does having more X's,
R's, and T's in the name mean that it'll make the graphics extra spicy. What do spicy graphics taste
like and how many X's, R's, and T's equals one super? And how much more super is the super than the non
super? Now while we will not be able to unravel all of these mysteries today we do want to talk about
the RTX 4070 super and along the way we're going to share some advice on choosing the right GPU
for you. Welcome to GPU shopping. Obviously this is a different format than what you probably
expected with the launch of a GPU, but to be honest this is what you really want to know. Am
I right? Ultimately which shoe or porridge is the right one for me. Is it too large? Is it too too
small? Is it too hot? Is it too cold, or is it just right? And with the launch of the 4070 and soon
4070 TI super ultimately that's what the whole question boils down to. What's the the right GPU
for me, because unfortunately the answer is never simple and it's not a real one-size fits-all, like
people out there try to make it to be. We're going to talk about GPUs today and I, I know, I know
this can be a very touchy subject. I can just, I can see the Fanboys just slobbing javelins at
me and scimitars and all that sort of stuff and I hear that like, your favorite football team, people
are die hards for their favorites. Team Red, Team Green, Team blue, team whatever other colors
come in, but here's what I asked. Keep an open mind and listen as we go through all of the different
information on this video. Like the resident tech dad that I am we're all going to we're going to
sit around the table together and I'm going to tell you what's special about each one of these
while making some of you cry. At least that's what we're going to do with a couple of the GPUs
today. So pull up a seat and let's get chatting. Now before we get too far let me introduce you
to this guy right here. This is the new RTX 4070 Super. The whole reason we're now making this new
video. This GPU has 12 GB of gddr 6X vram running at a memory interface of 192 bits, a base clock of
1.98 GHz, and a boost clock of 2.48 GHz. It's brand spanking new and I've got to say that I love that
Nvidia ditched that whole green tech super line it had with like, the two the 20 series, and they
went with this like rad black just smoked out design. Now you might be asking Robey what makes
the 4070 Super actually super? Well what does 21.7 more Shader, ray tracing, and tensor cores
sound like to you. Keep in mind that's not 21.7% more than like, the previous 30 series generation,
that's 21.7 more percent than the nons super 4070. That sounds pretty darn super to me. At least when you
compare it to the 4070. Now what does this super GPU cost? Does it have a super price? Well the
4070 Super has a launch price of $599 and if you remember that was the launch price for the
RTX 4070. Nvidia has actually dropped the price on that and and we're going to share that later. It's
not enough, but it's some now that we have met the 4070 super I'm going to ask an odd question. What
does a GPU actually do? Because we really don't stop to ask that question. It's, it's like that I'm
afraid to ask me. We talk a lot about them, but we never stop to ask why we need them. It used to
be the case that GPUs were purely an asset to a CPU for complex and concurrent calculations,
everything from crunching scientific data to rendering stunning visuals for gaming. In other
words GPUs were great at repetitive tasks so they make the perfect CPU sidekick, but today
we are at the point where we have to think differently about GPUs and what they can actually
do. Now GPUs are used for technology like rebar to give CPU an extra recourse to work with. They
run simulations and they power AI. Wait, wait, wait, wait don't leave. I know saying anything about
AI is really offensive right now and it it's AI everywhere. We're going to talk about why this
is important, but I'm asking you to stick around a bit longer and just hear me out. What I'm trying
to say is is that GPUs do a lot more than make things pretty, which is why the first question you
need to ask when looking at a new GPU is this. What do I need it for or more appropriately what am I
expecting my GPU to do for me? This is where things can get frustrating, because sometimes we don't
know what we are expecting other than a magical experience. So let's take some of the stress out of
GPU shopping by answering some of these questions. Just like we were talking about in our laptop
buyers guide, which you should totally check out because right now people are totally digging it,
it is important to set a realistic budget with a goal in mind. Think about what resolution you want
to play at. Was is that 1080P, 1440p, or 4K and what you want your picture to be like. We really like
1440p as a target. At this resolution picture quality is great and the hardware needed to
play at this resolution is not extreme. If the goal is high quality 1440p gaming a price tag
between $450 and $650 for GPU is not unusual and here's the other thing. At 1440p you actually
use the GPU you purchase, which a lot of people don't get and that's a whole another video. Okay so
thing number one. What is my realistic budget? Thing number two puts more words to the question what
AM I expecting my GPU to do for me? That depends on who you are. If I'm asking this as a gamer I
want to know if it'll help me make my favorite games run well. I want to know if the experience
will be stable and at good frame rates and I want to know what enhancements are available that will
make the experience a better more immersive one versus the gear I'm currently using. In other words
what do I need to be game day ready for the latest titles for the foreseeable future that you want
to play. If I'm a content creator I want to know how efficient it's going to make my workflow. I
want to know if it will let me work in real time on my timelines as I edit or if I'm going to have
to wait for it to catch up with me. I want to know if it will be compatible with the latest tools
and software. If the tools and software are built around a particular type of GPU, in other words
will it help me do the heavy lifting while I am creating? These are just a few examples, but these
are the things you need to think of when you think about the criteria when you're choosing a GPU. So
now that we have an answer to the question of what am I expecting the GPU to do for me, which I've
hope you've asked and now like okay I got it in my head. This is what I need. Let's talk about the
RTX 4070 Super and look at that through the lens of gaming alongside say the RTX 4070 and the AMD
Radeon RX 7800 XT. Why these GPUs Robey? Why these specifically? Because they're all positioned
close in price and they have the same stated purpose High Fidelity 1440p gaming. The Nvidia RTX
4070 has 12 GB of gddr 6xv RAM running at a memory interface of 192 bits as a base clock of 1.92
GHz and a boost clock of 2.48 GHz. As mentioned earlier for the 4070 Founders Edition it was $599
at launch, but the price has been lowered to $549 and we've actually seen partner cards at like
a $535. Now the second one is the AMD Radeon RX 7800 XT and that lands in the $450 to $650 mark
with GPUs as low as $510 and we're going to use this one given that it's right there in the price
and it is a direct competitor against the 4070 and 4070 Super. The 7800 XT has 16 gigs of gdr 6 Ram
with a memory interface of 256 bit. When it comes to speed the RX 7800 XT has a base clock of, well
AMD actually doesn't give us one of those, but the amazing people over at Tech PowerUp said it's
listed at 1.295 GHz. AMD does however give us game clock, which is supposed to be the expected in
most games speed of 2.24 GHz and a maximum boost frequency of 2.43 GHz. For testing we actually
went with ASRock's Phantom gaming version. Let's get back to the question starting with will this
GPU help my games run its smooth frame rates? We tested six games to get to our answer and we
collected two different sets of data from each game. One was just pure, raw rasterization without
any enabled super sampling, AI nothing. It was just vanilla gaming and we did this at 1440p. We didn't
use frame generation for these tests since AMD's equivalent isn't out in the preview drivers just
yet. Typically if this was a standard review we'd dive deeper into these numbers individually, but
we need to be here for an extra 40 minutes and frankly if you want to go get that information
there are plenty of places to do it. For all those who do want to see more we're going to share a
link in the description below with all of the raw data so you can just pour over it for yourself. Now
what would also be nice is that if you wouldn't mind go ahead and slap that subscribe button whip
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like this. Okay so let's go over a brief overview of the data. Overall in raw performance the 4070
super and the rx700 XT are almost dead even, .0287 % in favor of the 7800 XT. That, that feels like
a rounding error. To be precise though it is worth mentioning though when you look at this margin
that the 7800 XT had a massive lead in performance in Fortnite, which boosted its overall averages.
As for the RTX 4070, the RTX 4070 Super saw an 8.81% increase in overall performance, but remember this
is before four enhancements. This is just raw. Also I want to be super clear in our test Arena that we
built this is balanced heavily between titles that favor both AMD and Nvidia, because we want to make
sure things are even. Here's the deal games like to pay for AMD or games like to pay for NVIDIA and
we wanted to make sure that we showed a balance of both sides. This is now when things get interesting.
In this same test with these same titles, but when we add things like FSR, dlss and xess the RTX 4070
Super takes a whopping 19.93% lead over the RX 7800 XT and what about the RTX 4070 then Robey?
If consistency needed a new spokesperson it might want to offer the RTX 4070 nons super job. There
was an 8.32% performance improvement from the RTX 4070 to the RTX 4070 super. Sound familiar? Now
that was comparing them all against each other, but what was the performance difference between
raw rasterization and with super sampling? The RTX 4070 saw an overall performance averaging
increase of 15.11%. While the nons super saw a 15.6% increase. The RX 7800 XT saw a 4% decrease
in overall performance averages. Keep in mind this is only one performance enhancer turned on here
for Team Green, not frame generation, just dlss. So all of those numbers tell us a story, but they
also open the door for another one. I know this is going to sound upsetting to hear, but it's time to
start changing the way we think about performance and specifically when it comes to talking about
pure rasterization. Sure there were tests where numbers were high, but the image quality was a bit
more tragic. Artifacting and aliasing I still have nightmares. The more that I talk to game developers
and remember guys I was a game developer for 20 years and the more that I look at numbers like
this the more that AI tools are becoming more and more relevant to the overall performance
factors and the user experiences that we now have in gaming. So where does that lead us? Well
when you're shopping for a GPU you're not just shopping for today. At least I don't think it's a
good idea to only think about what you're doing today when you're making that kind of investment.
I mean these are not cheap. When we looked at the landscape of $450 to $650 GPUs the RTX 4070 stands
out among other mid-range enthusiast GPUs. This thing is just really, really hard to beat. It falls
into an interesting place, because it isn't any more expensive than the pre-priced reduced 4070,
but it is the best version of the 4070 you're going to get. When we looked at the technology and
feature set offered by Nvidia for gamers, content creators, streamers, and beyond the RTX 4070 Super
really went beyond what we thought we would see. Especially while keeping the price locked in at
the 4070s original point of entry. If you've been holding off on buying a new GPU and you're looking
for a mid-range enthusiast card you really need to check out the RTX 4070 Super. So Robey what about
the 4070 nons super. Here's a deal it. It was a great GPU. It's weird that it still exists and given the
jump in power between the 4070 and the 4070 Super I just I can't recommend buying this card. It just
makes sense to spend the $50 extra and just get the 4070 Super. It trails behind the successor just
that much. Sounds like you're just Mr Team Green today. Yeah you big shill. Okay hold on, because I do
want to talk about the RX 7800 XT, because this is a dang good card, but I want to say that I stand
behind my previous assessment of this GPU. This is for people who want to save money and just
want fast frames. It is a fantastic value GPU. There is a reason that it is selling as well as it is.
If none of the extras are appealing to you and you just want sweaty GPU speed and you want to have
couple extra dollars in your bank this is still a great card, but let's just simplify. I mean there's
been a lot of information. So here's a deal. If you care about high visual single player experiences
like, Allen Wake 2, Cyberpunk 2077, and I would even argue games like Starfield now more than likely
the RTX 4070 Super is going to be the right card for you. If you care about Esports or just pure
horsepower or you want to spend your money not necessarily only on the GPU then the 7800 XT is
a solid option and it can actually save you that money. There are a couple things I need to mention
before we exit this video. I said this a bit above, but it it's worth repeating, AI enhanced Graphics
are here to stay and they are a new path that developers are using to make your games prettier.
Through AI that giant expensive hunk of silicon in your machine is punching above its weight class
and for the first time ever in both Allen wake 2 and Cyberpunk 2077 AI enhanced games look better
than a purely rasterized game. Not to mention it runs with a higher frame rate and for the first
time with lower latency. You might get mad. You might say it's a lie, but don't shoot the messenger.
It's still a thing. So when you look and you are making a decision about what card you're going to
buy and what you need you need to keep the tech in mind especially if you're going to play high-end
single player games. For MP I'm going to say this one more time and it's just so you can hear me.
Pulsar is worth considering, but there are some heavy caveats here. It looks to be a game changer
for competitive Shooters who are playing at high refresh rates and want to see their targets way
more clearly. It's kind of how you win, but we don't know the price. We only know it's releasing
this year and we won't know if AMD will learn to reverse engineer it like they did with free sync. I
was told it took 10 years of work to make it work which sounds kind of hard, but who knows now if
you care about competitive play I will tell you this is a thing it's coming this year and if you
care that's completely up to you. There are a lot of unknowns here, but for those of us who've seen
it it's pretty magical. So do with this information what you will, because there is a non zero chance it
won't work on AMD cards. Just don't want somebody to come back to this video and say Robey you didn't
tell me about such and such so I got you covered now. Pew and here's the last one then. I'm done,
but I just need to make sure if you're a content creator and you stream on Twitch, not Kick, stream
on Twitch with the new Nvidia encoding technology and the partnership with Twitch you can now
encode up to five different resolution so the user can actually choose on their end how they
see it 720p all the way up to 4K, which is a big deal, because this isn't something you've been
able to do and it does improve reach. Now with av1 encoding we will see lower bandwidth costs,
but the other thing too is it's still unclear whether when and how awesome av1 encoding will
be versus something that is in the hand versus something that is in the bush. So do again do with
that what you will but it's just worth mentioning. These are just a few of the things to think
about when you're buying a GPU and I know it wasn't simple. I told you it wasn't going to be, but
hopefully we got you a enough information for you to make a wise choice. And you know what here's
what else. I know there are a number of you that have some good pieces of advice as well. So share
them down in the comments below so all of us can make wise choices. That's the best thing about it.
Also what do you think of the uh Nvidia redesign of the Founders Edition? We are absolutely here
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