- We're gonna debate it. - Then masticate it. - Let's talk about that. (bright upbeat music) (fire crackling) - Good mythical morning! - Please welcome one of the
co-founders of SoulPancake, and host of the podcast
Metaphysical Milkshake with Reza Aslan, our friend, Rainn Wilson. - Yeah! Whoo! - All right, Rainn. - Welcome to the show, man! - Hey. - What is your favorite nonmedical, (Rhett laughs) or metaphysical milkshake? - (laughing) Nonmedical. - Nonmedical milkshake. - I've had a medical milkshake. - I've never had a medical
milkshake, that sounds delicious. - A medicinal milkshake. - Um, like blood,
- You know, if you can't, if you need a liquid diet. - Oxycodone. (Rhett and Link laughing) - My favorite nonmetaphysical
milkshake is, you know, I like the ones with,
I'm partial to the ones with peanut butter in them. - Yeah, that's my favorite!
- Right? - You're on the right show. - No, not even chocolate,
just peanut butter. - Something with the peanut butter in it is always just like, "Oh, that's good." It satisfies. - Well, I don't know if we're going to get any of that today. - Please, come on. - But we know you like to dabble in-- - I'm out. (Rhett and Link laughing) - You like to dabble
in philosophy, ethics, and you like milkshakes, so
we got just the game for you. It's time for 'Chews
Wisely with Rainn Wilson.' - Here's what's gonna happen,
we're going to be presented with two seemingly identical milkshakes, and each round, we hope
to choose the good shake, of course, that means there's
also going to be a bad shake. - Uh-oh. - How bad? I don't know. Do we have to chew it? I don't know. - Okay, here's what we did. We asked you Mythical
Beasts what you would do in a range of hypothetical, moral dilemmas and now we have to guess what
the majority of you answered. Each answer is represented by a milkshake, and to make our choice,
we gotta sip the shake we think corresponds to the right answer. - Why are you making that face? - (groaning) It's just,
I don't know, like, I picture you guys with a bad milkshake with like dead bugs and tar in it. - Don't picture you guys, picture us. - I think tar is poison. - All right, we're in this together, but this will make you feel better. The winner gets a metaphysical
mind read from Rainn Wilson. - Whoo!
- Hey, all right! - Let's play. (synthwave music) - Okay, here is our first moral dilemma. You are forced to choose
between learning exactly when and how you die or when and how your loved ones will die. You must choose one but you
cannot share the information. Which do you choose? - Okay, and let's reveal
what's at stake here. Okay, it looks to be some sort of, just like a vanilla shake type of thing. - Yeah, yeah.
- Pretty innocent. - This one represents--
- They look kind of delicious. - Knowing when you, when
and how you're going to die and if you drink this,
that means that you think that they voted that they
would prefer to find out when-- - To know when their loved ones are dying. - So, and I assume we're talking
about, like, a loved one. - Well, it's your loved
ones, that sounds like your wife, and parents, and cousins. - So let's say your immediate family. - I try and limit my loved
ones, it just complicated. - Yeah, you have a very small,
tight circle of loved ones? - Let's say your immediate family. - [Rainn] Okay. - I feel like if you, if
you're wanting to know about yourself, isn't that more selfish? Or is it? - Hold on, think, play it out. If you knew, like, when your wife was going to die, and you couldn't tell her-- - And you can't share it,
that's the whole thing. It's the not sharing that
presents the moral dilemma because if I knew when my wife or parents were going to die and I'm
like hanging out with them, and I'm thinking like Thursday, June 20th, and I can't tell them, then that, then I couldn't live with that. - I would choose myself. I would choose to know myself.
- I would absolutely choose myself. - Oh, really? Y'all are selfish. - I don't think it's selfish, I think it's actually less selfish. - I think it's less
selfish because I can't, I couldn't live and not
be telling my loved ones when they were gonna die
if I had that information. - Did they think it through like this? - I think so.
- Let's each take our straws. - Are you gonna go with the left one? - You make good points. - Yeah, we made great points. - I wanna make the most of, I wanna make the most of my relationships. - Okay, poop or get off the pot here. - Yeah, okay.
- All right? - Three, two, dink it, - [All] and sink it. (disgusted noises) - Pretty, good, this is pretty good. - Salty! - Not bad. - It's a salt milkshake. (Rainn laughing) - [Stevie] It is, because
67% of the Mythical Beasts said that they would choose
to learn how they would die. - Yeah, 'cause you're all right. Well, two-thirds of it. (synthwave music) - Remember, drink some water. I have the next (metallic
clang) ethical dilemma. Ooh.
- Oh, nice. (metallic clang). - Nice.
- Uh-huh. - Has a nice ring to to it.
- Right. - With the press of a button,
you have the ability to end all illness and disease
in the world forever. - Done. - However, by pushing this button, you will also in turn prevent the human race from any further
technological advancements beyond the date the button is pressed. - Ooh. - Do you press the button or not? Let's see what shakes are at stake. - Wow. Ugh, no. - Oh, it's just strawberry. Maybe? - [Rainn] Oh, strawberry and carrot. - [Link] I bet it's a hot shake. - I've got a pretty
strong opinion about this. - Wow. - I feel like, and I'm
like a, I'm a futurist guy. I'm, you know, I'm all about
the, you know, who is it? Zoltan Ashvan, what's his name? - Zoltan. - Zoltan who's always, he's
always running for president. He's the, what do they call him? The transhumanist candidate. - I don't know this guy.
- Yeah. - Can you get him on the show? - (sighs) Well, that might be too far. (Rhett laughing) - He needs to be on your show. - Oh, yeah. - He is a super interesting guy. - Yeah, we can get him on to your show. - So, I'm all about, like,
moving forward the technology but why are we doing it, right? Isn't one of the reasons we're doing it to basically improve life for humanity? - [Rainn] Sure, yeah. - So if we can press a button
and get rid of all the stuff we're trying to get away
from, then it's kind of like, "Sure, we'll be fine with
iPhone 10s, or 11s, or whatever. "We don't need a 12." - Yeah, but no space travel? - And you don't know what we could unlock. - What? A cure to all diseases? Hey, I already got it,
I pressed the button! - Okay, so, here's what I think. So, I think that if I had that ability, I would press the button. - What if you-- - But I think the right thing
is to not press the button, but I think the voters voted-- - [Rhett and Rainn] to press the button. - So I think I'm gonna go
for this because I don't want to taste cat (bleep). (Rhett and Link laughing) - 'Cause that's clearly what's in there. - I believe that they know that an alien civilization is going
to come in war, not peace, and we'd better hope that
we've technologically advanced enough to keep the human race going and so, yes, long term, the suffering quotient has to be. - No, but the problem is,
they're going to give us diseases when the aliens show up, but
not in my world because-- - Alien viruses?
- Yeah. - Yeah. - We're gonna want to
have diseases to give them because that's how we're gonna do 'em in. - Oh, boy, I'm really not
looking forward to this. - So we're pressing the button over here. - Pressing the button. - Don't press the button. - Clink. (Rhett giggles) - And sink.
- And sink. - Yeah, that's good. (Rainn moans) - Oh, thank god. What did you get? What did you get? - It's hot. (Rhett and Rainn laughing) - Oh, it's got a little kick, does it? - Siracha? - But the thing is, you agreed with me! - Yeah, but I went with-- - And you were right! (Rhett and Rainn laughing) - [Stevie] This one
was really close though 'cause only 53% of Mythical Beasts said that they would press the button. - It could have been anybody's game! - We got it, we got it! - I got freaking dragon breath. (synthwave music) - All right, yes, I'm behind, but, hey, this one's worth three points,
- Okay, you can even it out. - because they're increasing each round. Rainn?
- You've got the dilemma. - I got the dilemma,
all right, here we go. (clears throat) Here we go, Mythical Beasts. Your friend falls into quicksand. Seven feet away is the cure for cancer. (Link laughs) You'll only have time to
either save your friend or get the cure. So it's like, "Oh, help
me, help me I'm dying!" Here's the cure for cancer,
in this vial over here! Ah, they're sinking, they're
sinking, three, two, one, you can die for one,
which one do you choose? - Very dramatic! - Yeah, I acted it out a little bit. - This is essentially a
complicated, a more complex version of the trolley problem. - Yeah, this is the trolley. - Let's see what we've got,
Mister Trolley Problem. - Are you gonna save your
friend or are you gonna-- - Save the friend, this
looks like a delicious chocolate milkshake here,
maybe some peanut butter in it. - And I'm always, my consistent answer to the trolley problem
is the most net benefit, regardless of your--
- [Rainn] I'm with you - Of your relationship with the person. - But he's right there
staring you in the eye - I'm always gonna do the cure for cancer. - It could be my wife,
even the other quicksand, it could be like my wife and mom (Rhett laughs) and my dogs and my dad, - (laughing) The whole family. - and Steve Carell, and-- (Rhett and Link laugh) and I would still choose the cancer. - Yeah, I'm with you. - I mean, we could load it, we could put the whole
Office cast in there, (Rhett laughs) we'll put you guys.
- They had a good run. - Yeah, you know. - I've actually, like,
mentally prepared myself for this kind of choice because, I don't know if this is ever gonna happen, but because I've thought
about the trolley problem, I'm like, when it happens,
I've told my kids, like guys, when it happens, you're gone. If I can save more
people who I don't know, that's what I'm gonna do. That's my moral compass. - So you have a healthy emotional remove from your friends and family. - I mean, my kids can be annoying anyways. - [Rainn] Sure. - This one seems like
the easiest one so far. - Oh, really? Now I'm doubting everything
'cause Link chose it. (Rainn and Link Laugh) - It's like, it was so
clear to me that (laughs) - Yeah, I'm just going for this one. (Rhett laughing) - What does this one say? - You should save the friend. - You should save the friend. - No, no, I'm going-- - Fine, fine, do it. Fine, do it. - No, we're all in on cancer here. - Dink it.
- [Rainn] Clink. - And sink it. - Yeah, chocolate. - Oh, thank God. (Rhett laughs) - It tastes hot and salty to me. - [Stevie] Yep, you should be enjoying a nice chocolate milkshake right now because 54% of the Mythical
Beasts said that they would - 54%?
- That's all? - [Stevie] would save the cure for cancer. - What?
- You're kidding me. - I guess those were really good friends. - No, but hold on a second.
- Yeah. - There's something really
wrong with your fans. (Rhett and Link laugh) That forty-- - Let 'em have it - That 46% would be like,
"I need to save Ashley." (Rhett and Link laugh) (synthwave music) - Okay, and the last
dilemma, it's a short one. If you had the chance to go
back in time and kill Hitler as a baby, would you do it? - Yes, yes! Where is it? (Rhett and Link laugh) - It's not even open yet. - Yes! (Rhett laughs) - Okay, whoa! You're drinking it? (disgusted screams and Rhett laughs) (disgusted screams and Rhett laughs) - (laughing) Oh, God. - I know I just. - Well, you know what,
I'm gonna choose this one. (Mythical crew laughs) - Oh my God, that was terrible. - Hold on, is he faking? Is he faking? (Rainn throws up) (Rhett laughs) I don't think he's faking. - How could they not
choose to kill baby Hitler? What are you thinking? - Yeah, absolutely you
would choose Hitler. - Well, but, apparently
that's not the right answer. - Why are you, why are. - Hold on, which-- - Why did you? - 'Cause I thought you were faking. - Which one did I grab? I grabbed the right one, right? - [Stevie] Okay, so yes,
- That's some sour. That's very sour.
- [Stevie] So the choice that the Mythical Beasts made-- - You're crying, that's good. - [Stevie] was that 57% of
them said that they would not kill baby Hitler. - What? Why? - [Stevie] I don't understand that, yeah. - Who are you anyway? I don't even know who you are. - [Stevie] Maybe, maybe,
you guys can discuss why they might have done that but I-- - There is a, I've actually
never considered this question, but I've hear people talk about
something related to this, that didn't make me question
it, but I can't remember the reasoning at this point. - Well, 'cause it's a little baby. You might as well let him
get a little bit older. You know, kill him, you know what, kill him as a toddler. - Here's what I would do. - Kill him as a toddler, 'cause, toddlers. (everyone laughs) - You're not digging
yourself out of that one. - Like, kill him as a two year old. - Two year old, that's what-- - I would say-- - When he's most annoying. - You kill the art school teacher that didn't let him get into art school. And then take his place as
the head of this art school and then let Hitler into art school. - Oh, so you're gonna
stay there for a while in the past. - Yeah.
(everyone laughs) I'm gonna build a life. - (laughing) You're
gonna have a whole life. - I'm gonna meet a nice Austrian Fraulein and have a life. And why not?
- It's either that or be a baby murderer. - I think that the idea is that (Link laughs) the whole Nazi thing was
bigger than just Hitler and if you killed Hitler, someone else would've
just done the same thing. I think that's the argument. But I'd still kill the baby. (Mythical crew laughs) - I can't imagine what the argument is. It's just like, well that will, that's unethical to do
kind of time travel. - We're reaching guys. - Time travel murder. - Can you help us out here?
- We're trying to get inside your minds, Mythical Beasties
but it's not really working. Rhett, this means that you
win, but I do recommend tasting that sour, it
will really wake you up. - No, I had the good one. - It'll wake you up. - I grabbed it from
somewhere, it's really good. - Come on, just give it a shot. Just give it a shot,
give the nastiest shot. - [Rainn] Oh wow, he's, wow.
- [Link] You'll love it. Be sure to check out SoulPancake and Metaphysical
Milkshake, Rainn's podcast, which releases new episodes
every Wednesday on Luminary. - And I get my metaphysical mind read from Rainn 'cause I won. - You won? - Yeah, only because you
showed me the answer. - My metaphysical mind read is your children are going to grow up really resenting you and needing a lot of therapy
because of this trolley problem that you've posed to them
- Oh, God. - and you need to, you need to heal those wounds that you've created, them knowing that their
lives are expendable. - Oh, so I should lie to
them, but still kill them in the event of the trolley problem? - Yes. - Okay. - Thanks for subscribing
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I love how Rainn pulled a Link and impulsively screwed up a part of the game.
(P.s. has Link decided to grow out his hair, too?)
Really enjoyed Rainn's appearance on GMM and GMMore today! He 'gets' the show, and the guys, and has fun with it. I'd like to see him co-present GMM one day, just for lolz!
OF COURSE YOU DON'T KILL BABY HITLER. If you have the power of time travel, you're supposed to kidnap evil baby Hitler and then go around to other points of time and kidnap evil babies from all points in history. You take the evil babies to an orphanage you built on a mountain in Tibet, and you raise the evil babies to be good people. EVERY NERDFIGHTER KNOWS ABOUT THE EVIL BABY ORPHANAGE. This idea was hatched in May of 2007! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtATGzpTOFk
I rest my case.
For the quicksand and cure for cancer question, the correct answer should be go after the cure first. People usually don’t sink very far into quicksand - usually only to chest height - before they start floating. Therefor you could easily help your friend after saving the cure.
False. Black bear.
Bears, beets, Battlestar Galactica.
Just finished my second watch of The Office last night so this was nice to see!
Why would you press the button? You'll probably eventually cure most if not all diseases by improving technology, and do so much more. That's just dooming humanity to stagnation which will lead to extinction otherwise.
You dont kill baby Hitler because even though he was incredibly terrible he was also incredibly important to history. You have absolutely no idea how it would affect history. Personally I was more surprised that the majority of MBs chose to press the button to end all illness but also end all human advancement. I love ethical dilemmas so much. I am weird but they just are great!
On a 2002 reboot episode of the Twilight Zone a woman went back in time and sacrificed herself and took baby Hitler’s life in the process.
One of the Hitler family’s maids saw this and quickly bought a baby from a family of Gypsies and disguised it as the old baby.
Meaning the Hitler we know was the result of killing the real baby Hitler.