Cher and Christine Baranski on "The Graham Norton Show" (22nd June 2018)

hi this is Sarah and welcome to the Graham Norton Show [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] Oh you're very welcome we have a great sofa for you tonight the one and only share is on the show mommy a sequel here we go again now if you haven't seen a mummy it's a story of a woman who doesn't know which of three manners our father saw like a Jeremy Karl's special set in Greece share an Abba what's not to love I know it's the gayest thing I've seen all week the England Football team of swimwear riding inflatable unicorns footballs coming out hey but we should say congratulations to the team shouldn't we they won their first World Cup game against Tunisia I'm told apparently the match had more viewers than the recent royal wedding he knows credible if you didn't see it Harry managed to bang one in right at the end hurricane hurricane meanwhile this week Prince Harry Prince Harry took Megan to her first Royal Ascot not a euphemism lovely mega zukie and Edward and Sophie going who are these two nobodies it was the ladies outfits that sold the show this woman went dressed to several cages president Trump's off visiting yet who tried to put some child migrants in there [Applause] first she saw it in the Cheadle's Game of Thrones and the blockbusting Hunger Games franchise now she's bringing as the BBC reimagining of Picnic at Hanging Rock please welcome Natalie Dormer [Applause] Oscar Wilde and making his directing debut in the critically acclaimed the Happy Prince it's a warm welcome back to [Applause] in history Sybil and The Good Wife now she's reprising her role as Tanya in Mamma Mia here we go again the first time welcome to Christine Baranski [Applause] making her Mamma Mia debut is a music I called who's been at the top of her game for over six decades picking up an Oscar and Emmy a Grammy and three Golden Globes along the way always a huge pleasure to welcome the fabulous [Applause] oh I'm not sure I could be happier so welcome on first time for Natalie hello and I'm Christine we've met before you've never known the show before did your radio show yes you did yes very popular Christine ops you've made the fool with Sharon I know so are you like busy now you best mates I wish I wish my goal is to get her cell phone number yeah can you imagine I mean Berra was in Buffalo New York going to all-girls Catholic High School and you know skinny bad skin stringy hair and Cher's coolest woman on the planet of course and we all watch the Sonny and Cher show and the hot so the idea that I would somehow one day be sitting next to her on your show or in a musical with Abba means it's pretty pretty funny used to sit next to each other in our chairs I remember you're telling this story of Julie on the set yes exactly Julie Andrews yep someone hasn't seen Mamma Mia because Natalie not your I know you're a chef and you have a particular favorite chair song I remember singing to gypsies tramps and thieves and my mom in her little Ford Fiesta yeah when I was a little girl and moonstruck I mean you've been on the show but not together but you know you have known each other for a long time we've known each other since I did masks yes right I think 1984 right and I had a friend Eric Stoltz who is your son in masks and we used to go and hang out with share the weekends and then on my bed's too on your bed yes why then we became so famous for knowing share it was that house share so excited I think we've got a picture of you back in the day there you are I remember reading at the time that you two were like an item but now talking of celebrity fans about Christine Baranski our great actor Michael Sheen do you know Michael Sheen do you know you know what he seems to know me yes so explain the Michael Sheen connection this is good you like did you know this Cher no this is good well I know nothing but I think Sarah Silverman was quoted as saying that Michael Sheen it's hard for me to say this but Michael Sheen refers to his penis as the great Christine Baranski [Laughter] [Applause] long lasting career oh yeah reliable reliable Collinson you can go anywhere it's to haunt me all the time I really want to meet Michael feeling what were you thinking yeah okay right let's talk about our first movie tree tonight share and Christine together in Mamma Mia here we go again opens on the 20th of July and great news is cher singing Zappa so what what do you give us in the movie I give you Fernando okay we've got a little clip should we watch share singing some Fernando and you can see performing some Fernando can you hear the drums they were close enough [Music] every hour every minute seem to last eternally it was so fretful not know we were your new full of life and none of us prepare to die and I'm not ashamed to say the roar of bombs and cannons almost made me cry [Music] [Applause] [Music] I watched movie I loved it but my favorite was when you look across and you go Fernando because trying to fit the songs in is the is the challenge yes we have a Great backstory yes can I ask a question though are you Meryl Streep's mother yes you're younger than her no I'm older older by four years who broke it to you that you were going to be playing did you did actually I didn't think about it that much truthfully so no I just thought well that's cool yeah and a Christian number you are back as as Tania so what's going on in here we go again what's good well it's a few years after the first Mamma Mia and we see Sophie and and The Belladonna in and she's redoing it and it's think of it as a reunion it's a great regrouping of all the original cast members for this big party that that Sophie's doing and her mother's honor I must say I've never been on a set that seemed so easy yeah it was um yeah it was like we'd be talking and we'd be like just hanging out talking and then we'd go into the you know in front of the camera we just be talking it didn't seem like acting at all it just seemed like a party and of course the boys the three boys are like a fourteen together I mean it's like three teenagers all the time being stupid right the the attitude or the approach to the boys singing is different this time I think it was the funniest thing on the set was how grumpy they were kicking and screaming their way into these musical numbers yes you know why do I have to you know clap on one and point on actually because they can't colin firth wanted his dance moves to be perceived ironically i thought it really mean that I'll just kind of offbeat and but they were um I think it was Colin in the trailer one morning said I'm so angry about having to wear this spandex jumpsuit as compensation I want to stuff a woolen sock down so if you see Colin don't believe that it's not the great Christine Baranski and Julie waters back together again and this is the two of you returning to the island lovely you must meet our hotel manager [Music] what is this signore cienfuegos these are my mother's greatest friends this is Tanya Tanya Tanya hmm the beauty comes not only from the exquisite structure of your bones and left in your sparkling eyes but from the goodness and flowers within you like a fountain have been washed and brought to my tent don't think fountains flower did they [Applause] I feel cheated cuz that's not how that scene plays in the film no the Jeep stops and I take one look at Senor simple ones that's where it goes scene Fuegos and I say be still my beating vagina thank you for letting me sit we were too delicate for that but yes it looks the same but this isn't Greece this time no it was on the island of this in Croatia and then it was so beautiful there is that where you did Game of Thrones yes for years Game of Thrones is Dubrovnik and the peninsula along there it's started if I wasn't yeah really stunning yeah and did you have to be talked into doing this sure yeah well yes doing it well my friend who used to be my agent who's the head of Universal he called me and said you're doing Mamma Mia too and hung up so normally I wouldn't do it for just because of one person saying it but he happened to be the right person and of course I think it's exciting because after all these you're in a movie with Meryl Streep again yes yeah coz so kudos your first movie wasn't it yes yeah and and I've heard you talk about how you know some actors were a little [ __ ] about the idea of cher going or acting it was terrible actually I went Mike Nichols called and said they're playing the trailer at some movie you know in Westwood and you've got to go and see it so I said oh I'm so excited so I actually didn't do that but I was very excited so my sister my friend and I ran to see it we're sitting there and it comes up and they show some clips and then they say you know Meryl Streep and everybody applause and then they say Kurt Russell and everyone applause and then they say Cher and everyone started laughing oh and it was just it was heartbreaking but all I kept thinking was you know every did it so it's so organic it's so it was just it just was the truth and so I was I got home and I called him and he said they may laugh in the in the beginning but they won't be laughing at the end I have true they way I got nominated for Academy Awards momily here we go again and what about an album is there gonna be a new I'm working on one right now but no I'm trying to get it released by the time I go to Sydney what is it what is it tennis well I'm not going to why become a working journalist here come on I remember you when you used to be on that porn [Laughter] [Applause] shows an adult game show I have to tell you this I told everyone I met and I swear to God I said you have to watch this because this guy is going to be a star I just knew it I just you had something so special I thought why is he on this show in the middle of the night no one's seeing him and this is a stupid show maybe one day you'll be right Rupert Everett brings us is new biopic about Oscar Wilde the Happy Prince it's out now and this is extraordinary you know you star on it you wrote it you directed it sort of passion project doesn't quite do it justice how long have you been trying to make this fun it took me about 10 years Graeme actually funnily enough in independent cinema that's kind of normal these days it's so difficult to to get money together to find finances when I first wrote it I read it because I wasn't getting any parts and I thought you know [ __ ] that I should try myself because have to be proactive because otherwise at a certain age you just left on the shelf and that's that but I had no idea really what it was going to be like and by by year five it had become this kind of life and death wasn't very pleasant actually thing I thought if I didn't do it after eight years who would I be I wouldn't exist anymore and what was it about this part that kind of the latter part of Oscar Wilde's life that appealed to you I suppose basically first of all because I loved the whole idea of him being a huge star and then falling on the skids I think that's very romantic but more than that I suppose for me really as a as a gay man working in a quite aggressively heterosexual business like show business Wilde is is a kind of patron saint or a Christ figure almost and I find the story of Wilde incredibly inspiring and very very moving and you played him so well on stage I saw you play him on stage I played him on stage with was that 20 that was five years ago when I couldn't get any money for the film I thought oh I'll try and play him on stage and do a Trier it's very tenacious I mean I am historically a flake so this has been the most extraordinary ten years of my life that I've in fact continued at something and the fabulous cast that you held on to for held on for dear life all of them I coerced them all into into being in it we had a we had a reading when I first wrote it and I made everyone sign a little piece of paper saying they'd be in it and then I'd go around Europe saying yes I was on the phone to Colin Firth this morning he said to me when are we getting going and all the money was made around him as well so he was very very kind to take part did he nearly do a runner at some point he never did a runner Wow not really never did a runner and he held the whole thing in his hands because all the finance was on him and who did he play he played Oscar Wilde's friend Reggie Taylor and he was wonderful at it too well we can see him now because we're gonna watch a clip this is you Oscar Wilde after you've been released from prison dealing with your notoriety [Laughter] [Applause] [Applause] [Laughter] you figured everything you're gonna sit everything my family my world [Applause] watch me you're sort of unrecognizable it's not all prosthetic sir what is it no it's an amazing fat suit that I had made by this incredible guy called Robert Allsup and every single bit of it had different stuff inside and he's amazing this amazing low hanging bum and these moobs and at first when I need to play and I decided that Oscar was very well hung this big big hose of the [ __ ] and these amazing official legacy but the thing is once I started doing it in the player had very tight trousers and I sat in the theater and I could see the first few rows of the audience were intransitive took over so I had to have it cut down to size a bit oh I made my best wild ever remark was in Munich Airport it had been taken out by the customs officials and they were going over it and one of them was kind of wanking off there's no explosive there's nothing more explosive than my performance as you say it is an historical story but it does still have lots of relevance now I mean at the end I have written that in 2017 only along with 75,000 other gay men Oscar Wilde was pardoned and actually being pardoned I don't think is enough because to be pardoned infers that there's a crime and in your country Ireland this week the what you say the tea shop the tea shock the tee shot not the tea shop he apologised they apologized in the Irish parliament to all the gays who'd been convicted and I think that's what needs to happen now so I thought my next my next publicity coup would be to chain myself to doubting to sign an apology because she should apologize a pardon is not enough it also would be something for her to do making movies such a labor of love and Natalie Dormer now you've just been through a similar yet 9 it's the same nine years from the start of rut I co-wrote it with the director Anthony Byrne produced it and star he's more than just the director of the writer he's your partner he's my other half yeah he's Irish nothing to do with me no but it's exactly the same it's you gain your finance you lose your finance you gain your talent you lose your talent the drafting the redrafting you get another job you think it's never gonna happen I mean it is as exactly as Rupert says it's a common story in independent filmmaking and I wrote it for exactly the same reason you did I was frustrated at the time when I started writing it in 2009 the lack of three-dimensional fully fleshed out female roles exactly the same places you at what a call it's called in darkness and it's coming out yeah what is that oh no no it's coming out on the 6th of July yes well congratulations again what a Herculean task to get a what's what's your link to Oscar Wilde christine baranski well I'm not related to him now I took a course on Oscar Wilde and Oxford last last summer yeah they do a wonderful summer program and I always wanted to study there since my daughter got a master's degree at Wolfson College and I went go to this school anyway they have a summer program and I did TE Lawrence the year before and last summer I did Oscar Wilde but he everybody should spend time with Oscar Wilde did he go to maudlin and everything worked yes yes because he was an Oxford was so much a part of his the happiest part of his life and was your daughter in Oxford at the same time as you know no years earlier but but I could never do the Oxford program because I was always doing The Good Wife okay but as soon as the Good Wife ended I had a chance to go and I was supposed to go this summer for a course on the BBC but I couldn't because of family issues but I'm doing your show instead yeah walk away knowing everything you live with your mother now have you moved in with your mother I've moved in with my mother yeah yes we lived well we don't we don't live together we didn't next door to each other in in the country in we'll ship and so far so good there's an Oscar Wilde quote actually that's very funny all women turn into their mothers that is their tragedy no men do and that's there's turning into my mother do you live separate lives or is it kind of well we have separate houses and she's and we we have separately you know the trouble with with moving back home is that your mum really starts treating you exactly as she treated you when you were ten so it's very easy to slip into a rather weird old relationship where you'd behave like it very well words wisdom but more of a warning when you were very young didn't you move the country and didn't she give you a talk about going into the world yes what she said she said listen don't go into the woods because there's this very strange man who'll take you to his house and put you on his kitchen table give you sweets and play with your willy I was absolutely thrilled nothing ever happens he or she had a very vivid sense of humor she thought she said and in London be careful some people are going to come and inject you in the bottom and then you're going to be completely out because share your your mom is still with this yes this it's not funny but I do think a brilliant bit of advice that you should share is her five-year rule if it doesn't matter in five years it doesn't matter isn't that good thing bad happens you can't think will I care about this right so I'm you know and it always helps me it always comes in handy no I read that and I just thought bass pretties actually your genius yeah nice really really good and I wonder did she come up with that thinking when you were a teenager cuz you were quite a wild child I would say all right I was wilder when I was nine years old than I ever was as a teenager oh I ran away from home I stole a horse I jumped on a freighter and kept going until my girlfriend started crying for her mother oh how did you get back I called my mother this is know that you say you I want this is but this is shares I don't know if it's her only but it's certainly your first mugshot how oh my god that's not Truett's I did it but I didn't get arrested for it what's that from then that's my school picture when the eighth grade I swear to God I would cop to it if it was true Los Angeles police some like rag magazine I actually did two but all right this I learned how to drive when I was 11 so my girls wild read it wasn't a big deal so my friend had a boyfriend and he said he had to go in we were two bowling alley said I have to go in and have to say something to her friend I'll be there for four seconds and we waited and we waited and he didn't come out and so then the girl said Cheryl you know how to drive let's just drive around the parking lot I said okay and then he didn't come out so sure let's just drive around the block and so he didn't come out and I just thought well this I I'm gonna take us out and so we went to a drive-in to get something to drink and we got arrested but not exactly arrested just taken to jail no never been arrested unfortunately not you were you like a perfect child I I haven't had the wild years but maybe share is had yeah you had girl I was head girl you never know in the next few years I might suddenly break free grab your favorite for my rolls darling I say that yeah my roll yeah rock out yeah very good because Natalie Dormer Navid orbit is going back to school she brings us the BBC's version of Picnic at Hanging Rock it's not some BBC to next month now people might know the nineteen seventies film Peter Weir film but this goes back to the normal then Joan Lindsey novel of 67 yes so in the expanded story what happens so I'm playing Hester Appleyard who is the headmistress of Appleyard College and at 1900 turn-of-the-century Melbourne Australia rural Australia and there's a picnic as the and during this school trip three girls and one teacher go missing and then it's like the knock-on effect the ramification of this mystery of these these young women haven't gone missing and the college and the wider community sort of you know their response and the school basically collapses so a true story though no you think that is the genius of Joan Lindsay's publishers in the 60s people think it was true it's a true story and right everyone most people have that response I was a stroke of genius by them and the way of film I think perpetuated that but no it's a it's fiction well isn't it we've got a clip this is you in episode one preparing the schoolgirls for the picnic good morning girls we are indeed fortunate in our weather for the picnic to mount Diogenes as the day is likely to be warm you may remove your gloves after the drag has passed through would end I must warn you the rock is extremely dangerous you are therefore forbidden from engaging in any tomboy foolishness in the matter of exploration the vicinity is also renowned for its venomous snakes and poisonous ants try to have a pleasant day so it's a six-part series and it's not just a lot of movement on screen it was a very female led production yes very female centric project female producers femur two female writers female director showrunner I'm leading another male director in another female director and female centric characters so it really was had a had a real female feel to it did you get to go to Hanging Rock I did the real hangar yes the real Hanging Rock through its Mount Diogenes it's in the south it's it is in the Macedon wine region which is very useful yeah it's just a rock it is just a roll it's this it's this incredible stone as you say construction you're right it's quite flat this will just raises our super and it's you know it's got its got sacred connotations to the indigenous population and whether you believe in ley lines or God or even if you're just a straightforward pagan it's you know it has an energy and that you can feel it when you're there it's quite a special place well pick their hair oh well good luck with that and very quickly this is good news everyone share is going on tour yes I'm going to Australian New Zealand [Applause] how did they get so lucky my manager Zealand no it just kind of you know what because I went to the parade up to Mardi Gras right and I had a great great time and someone said would you like to come down here and I said sure and what about the rest of us obviously the last time you were on the show yes you Toby stop asking stupid questions that's never going to happen and now look you are on the road again well yes because who knew I mean I'm almost I'm so old who thought that this was no I don't have little white chin hairs but like some people [Applause] shaves is all right backstage and you said something very funny and I kept more what it is no can I would repeat it no nobody expects to be working at my age are very few women on tour or women on stage now you know I think Bette and I are it so I it wasn't a lie I just didn't think I would be here so if you're still doing it at 72 72 72 do you have [Applause] you know I have no number in my head because it doesn't compute it's like my mother is 92 and my mother is so cute and adorable you know and she's she was the one from the beginning of my life who said you know you will she said you won't be the prettiest you won't be the smartest you won't be the most talented but you are special and so she has you know that's what she instilled in me but she didn't tell me that you would go on forever what is it good luck with the torte I hope it comes here share everybody [Applause] music this great award-winning singer-songwriter has sold millions of records worldwide and is back with his first year music for two years here performing if you want to love somebody it is Tom Odell you should look your flexion if you wanna see you live you hidden in the right arch if you wanna pick a side give me more affection if you wanna see me cry [Music] your god you should get your car started if you wanna be go to the cattle if you wanna be a star flick back through [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] you really should let me hold you if you wanna just pretend a little colder [Music] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] you [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] very we must say a big thank you to the urban voices collective there it was live very good and obviously it's nerve-racking I don't know did you get nervous doing things done I'm terrified arrived I feel very relieved now yes I think I have a drink you do this does having chair here make it worse yes but it was great it was great and I enjoyed it both times okay [Applause] you can enjoy it multiple times if you preorder the album tamo daily i'm jubilee road it's not out till what - no but it's available free orders October the 12th yeah we reorder it now yes October 12 is long yeah that's a lot I love Tom Odell so where is Jubilee Road Jubilee Road was inspired by Road I lived on for three years in London and I asked the neighbors if I could call it the real Road and they said they well they didn't want it to become that Abbey Road with the pedestrian crossing as well it's a really sweet story about you know I said you sold records all over the world I've got is the New York you got recognized yeah yeah I was I was in New York like one of the first times maybe wasn't the first time but I was just like someone had told me about the jaywalking thing about how you can get in trouble for jaywalking in New York and I was just this like naive 21 year old Englishman mincing across the street when like there was there was no green man there you know on the don't like bad they don't like if you can't walk unless there's a green man and these police cars of pulled me over put his lights on like ran out of the car he's like New York City cops and they'll I thought I was going to be arrested like frohnen in jail Cher [Laughter] yes yeah together would be lovely no and it's a very long drawn out story I'm saying here for not a very good ending but they basically just then screamed some names at me of my own and it was really bizarre experience and I got off with a go over selfie and they I know but yeah I mean so yeah once weird plate was I cuz I feel that I don't watch it but the the show you get recognized the most for isn't the good wife or the good fight no it's the Big Bang Theory in fact when I was at Oxford visiting I was trying to get into maudlin college I was buying a ticket to get into the college to tour the beautiful gardens and the young man said oh you Leonard's mother I mean being Leonard's mother has given me just egress into all kinds of wonderful it pays to you know BFA because that's such a well-known show and I and I rarely appear on it but because I'm the leading man's mother and it's a funny character it's really funny character you know it's the power of television it's crazy well get you a free garden [Applause] - yes yeah and I also liked No thank you so much for that life forwards time for a final visit of the series to the big red chair who's there is it a big finish hello who you hi Craig where you from Creek originally from Scotland but I live in Peckham in London now okay off you go sorry okay mines is slightly share related so years ago I had this neighbor and they would complain all the time about the noise and stuff every little noise and in the mornings about sexy am I would wake up and with Cher's greatest hurts playing and I went away on holiday for a few weeks and I thought before I go I better turn the alarm down and mistakenly I actually turned it up to maximum woke up at 6:00 a.m. every single morning with shared voice basically reverberating around his bed and I didn't realize until I came back but he told me that the stress almost killed him [Applause] okay who's next hi hi what's your name Jerry this is chair related story story um so I'm actually obviously a massive share fan but unfortunately in my life I've never had the chance to get her autograph I've got her signature tattooed in my back but it is the result of a Google image search so getting the real thing that's not gonna happen would you do yes she will come on [Applause] oh no next to it sure yeah well no you got have to though you're right but no I think do it separately that's really good why do you want a new one no it's perfect that's one of my best ones let me just put kisses under it okay oh that's a good idea yes and then maybe just one more yeah ah there okay there we go there there's that is that is a really good chair tattoo and then just have him do it with a small needle since the kids this came off of that I know about tattoos [Applause] [Music] [Applause] join me next week for a look back at some of the highlights of the past 12 weeks we'll be back in the awesome tool that of a great summer [Music] hey embryos and I'm Alex I was a brand new radio one podcast ahead when sex goes wrong of unexpected clearance think of it as a shame free zone share your hilarious tales the thought expected fluids get it matter from the BBC iplayer radio [Applause] [Music]

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Published: Fri Jun 22 2018