Bryan Osborne: Flood & Fossils

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all right excited a Brian Osborne speaking to us tonight he is from China are you from Chattanooga but you've been here for years yeah actually a graduate of Bryan College and taught in Hickson so he's anybody was taught under Bryant anybody in here okay I figured there'd be some people okay good was he a good teacher he's a good teacher okay this guy's he's okay I got to be Bryan this summer at the Southern Baptist Convention he had been on staff not long with Answers in Genesis what an honor it is to be on staff with Ken and the team there and it's just a joy to have him here tonight so Bryant without further ado won't you come up let's give the Lord a hand for him as he comes and teaches us tonight Thank You Robby how's everybody doing doing good let me say it is a blessing to be here back home in Chattanooga we've lived it for almost 20 years before we just moved in March and I joined full time with Answers in Genesis and it is just so good we've had so many reunions so many friends we've had a little cookout it's been really awesome such a blessing have a funny notes and I'm the other guy really here at this session but I was talking to some friends of mine now some kind of the layout of the timing who's speaking away and I said well Sunday night you can't speaking at around 6:30 and I speak at 8:00 so forth and they said oh so Ken is opening up for you which that's not how it works but anyway that's what they thought so let don't think that for a little bit but give a little bit of background for me I was raised in North Carolina with a really godly family any time we're at home any time the church doors were open we were there all right kind of tell you why I'm passionate about this and so we went there I was involved at church all the time in youth group in Ras there's always sorts of things led in youth group what's a Christian school for a really long time as a kid I graduated high school went to a Christian college Brian college majored in biblical studies with minors in Greek and Christian education met a wonderful godly woman she is the greatest earthly gift God has ever given me we just celebrated 16 years this past summer married her she cuz I'm a godly family as well amen praise God absolutely and then I went to another Christian University got my masters in education after that I taught Bible History at Hickson high school for thirteen years and what a blessing that was I loved doing it the only reason I left is I knew God was calling me to join Answers in Genesis on the front line of this cultural battle standing on God's Word and so I taught Bible history for 13 years loved it got some former students over here giving a little shout-out to them and I love them to death but here's the thing through all that time thro my Christian upbringing and training education it really wasn't until about nine years ago that was first introduced the creation apologetics and it blew me away they blew me away because I found out that we as Christians have answers to stuff I didn't know we had answers to answers to things like rock layers and fossils and dinosaurs and so-called races but guys more important than that I really began to realize that a lot of our culture's secular humanistic thinking has crept into the church and we only realize it that was taking place that's been a stealth attacked by the enemy to undermine the authority of God's Word by attacking the history of the evolution millions of years with the goals undermining the authority to therefore undermine the gospel that's based in that authority and so I began to think at that time you know it's not if I had heard this throughout my Christian upbringing education there probably many others who had not heard it as well and so we need to recognize where that attack is taking place so we can be ready to give a defense for the answer for the hope that we have that we can plow the ground and get it ready for the powerful proclamation of the gospel of Jesus Christ and so that's why Genesis is relevant that's why we need answers about the rock layers and the fossils and about the flood of Noah's day and that's why this stuff is so important you kind of got that message this morning if you hear at the first couple talks and so with that in mind keep in mind as we go through all these answers it's not about winning debates it's about winning disciples plowing the ground getting it ready for the gospel of Jesus Christ to make disciples who will in turn make disciples and I love that absolutely it's what it's all about so that kind of been my that's kind of jump into this dive in with an interesting question what do you think the Garden of Eden was located may think Australia like Ken says America somewhere close to the Tigris Euphrates River we don't know what do you think let someone say Australia that's where I heard that most people say is somewhere around like number three right maybe about Tigris and Euphrates River would you agree with that yeah why well if you know your Bibles just a little bit we know Genesis chapter 2 it says those a river that split into four rivers and then two of those rivers Worthy Tigris and Euphrates you guys familiar with that so you look on a map and you see the Tigris and Euphrates River he's think ha ha there they are that's to the fore that must be where the Garn Avedon was but look closely do you see one River dividing into 4 no not even close so is the Bible wrong or is something changed you see the Bible tells us also of a global catastrophic event that wrecked this world the flood of Noah say was probably destroyed and buried the garna be might got no good guess as to where the garden even eaten even was and you might say about why do they use the same names well there are places in America with the same names as places in England we know what I did is right the sailors came over from the old world they brought some of those names with them and use those old world names in the new world know what's gonna do the same thing he's gonna leave the old world get on the ark float for quite a while come back down to a new world and use some of those same names and here's why I started with that to show you that you know what so many times we tend to start with this present world and try to use the present world to understand the Bible instead of starting with the Bible and using that to understand the world around us because it's the biblical history that gives us the right understanding of the past to correctly connect the past to the present and guys when you start to try to squeeze things into the Bible I can't talked about this morning when you try to squeeze millions of years into the Bible we get all kinds of problems because when you do that you undermine the authority of God's Word because you can't trust a clear history of the Bible also if you got millions of years no matter which method you use progressive creation the de-age theory theistic evolution whichever one you use they all put millions of years of death and suffering before sin that means God's calling death and suffering for millions of years very good it also means this if there's death before sin death is not the payment for sin and if death is not the payment for sin then Jesus's death does not cover our sin and death and we're so lost in our sin sin bound for hell and that's why this is a theological found no issue not merely a side issue because another consequence of believing in millions of years and you also basically have to accept the idea of a local flood say look a flood yeah Noah's Flood wasn't a global just flooded one little area why well because the idea of the millions of years is based on the idea that all those rock layers we see in the world around us were laid very slowly over millions of years that makes the flood couldn't been global because if it was it ripped up all those rock layers and lay down its own rock layers so the floor had to be a local event if you accept range of years and the idea goes something like this had Noah's Flood just flood in Noah's little universe the Mesopotamian valley essentially modern-day Iraq tons of problems with this idea just give you a couple to think about first if the flood was local why I didn't know I have to build an ark right I mean couldn't guy just kind of know hey know Khmer got a secret for you I'm gonna flood and kill everybody over here I need you to go over there right be pretty easy to do or why did God set animals to the ark why not let them just go somewhere else or let them die the be plenty of others to repopulate the world not an issue or how about this why is the ark so big we'll see here in a minute the Ark was huge if it's only for local critters while make it so big and then here's a good one why send Birds why send them to the ark because Birds had this incredible 'ti to do what fly right no reason to put them on they are but more important than all those questions is what does the word of God say you go just as 6 verses 13 and 17 God said to Noah I'm going to put it in to all people for the earth is filled of violence I'm gonna destroy both them and the earth I want a story all life under the heavens every living creature will die everything the whole earth and then in chapter 7 verses 19 through 20 this is interesting it tells us that during the flood all the high mountains under the entire heavens were covered by Death with more than 20 feet now guys if the highest mountains were covered by more than 20 feet of water but the flood was only a local event you'd have to get something like this which I'm not gonna lie who wants to see that alright that's pretty cool all right absolutely but that's not what the text is talking about and then you got this justise 7 21 through 23 it tells us that during the flood every living thing on earth died everything perished everything on the face of the earth only Noah and his family survived the Bible could not be more clear and then there's also this issue summarized very nicely by this cartoon we've got a father talking to a son look at the beautiful rainbow it's a promise from God I'll never again flood the earth as he did in the days of Noah well my Christian college professor said that Noah's Flood didn't cover the entire earth what he told you it's just a localized flood that's what he said so he believes the God promised never again to send a localized flood if that's the case God has broken his promise numerous times over and you've got a really big issue and of course we could jump to New Testament four hours how New Testament about the event as a real events know as a real person there was a real flood to destroy the entire world it is literally everywhere it was a global event so let's look at the flood itself this is a whole lot of fun because this really connects the Bible to the tangible world what we see around us screams confirmation of God's Word over and over and over again this is so exciting we're gonna talk about the flood in the ark all right what those things were like what the effects of those things will be and we're gonna start with the ark now when we talk about the flood of Noah's day one of the questions we get asked the most so many people is there's no way no could fit all those animals into the ark you heard that question before you ever thought about that who wants to bill and I can handle a do you see it bill and I brought that up a couple of different times it was really issue for him people ask me all the time sometimes they ask nicely sometimes not so nicely and I usually respond with two questions on my own I say okay well if you couldn't tell me this how big was the Ark and most the time I say I don't know and then I asked him okay well how many animals did he actually take on the ark most of the time I say I don't know I just know he couldn't do it which I begin to worry about their ability to reason at that point also I get more worried when they say something like there's no way Moses could have taken to fit all those animals onto the ark it just which ironically they're right who's this couldn't do it he wasn't around so let's talk about the first question how big was the Ark you think do you think it looked like a or more like B yes at the mall I be can you guys do me a favor if you happen to see a picture like this and one of your children's Christian books or maybe floating around in a room somewhere in a distant church if you see a picture like this will you tear it down and burn it and get rid of it for me here's the reason so if we show our kids this this tells our kids that the account of Noah Noah's photo is just a what just a story it's just a fairy tale it's not real but you show him a picture like this now Noah's Ark was a real boat with a real purpose because God's Word is true when it talks about history I'm gonna talks about salvation and that's what this is all about and guys the ark was huge 510 feet long 85 feet wide 50 feet tall three different levels gigantic absolutely gigantic I am so excited about the Ark I've seen the specs I've seen some of the exhibits the mock-ups the drawings is going to be incredible enough Kim mentioned this but the projection is 2016 for the ark itself we're hoping by next year to be about next summer maybe about halfway done and we're hoping to have an observation deck where you come and see the Ark being built and that is really cool because how many times you get to see Noah's Ark being built okay this is it once we're done we're not rebuilding it okay so so be here one shot to do that but something look into later on but it was huge it has the right balance between strength that's the building comfort for what you need during the global event of the flood of Noah's day had capacity equal to around thousand of 22 570 railroad stock cars a floating warehouse gigantic but was it big enough how many animals did he actually take well first he only took land-dwelling air-breathing animals no fish there's plenty of water outside the boats okay no jellyfish on the ark no widows only Ark bus on top a nice part gonna bring young adults you're being young adults for multiple reasons we'll talk about that tomorrow I want to talk about dinosaurs but the primary reason you bring young adults is because they're gonna live longer wants to get off the ark to reproduce and that's the whole reason you're taking them to begin with and they're gonna be smaller obviously and then this is where most people tend to miss the boat on this issue this next point he took two of each kind now Skinner I taught about this not two of each species two of each kind again equals about the family level of modern-day taxonomy was really clear two of each kind of animal two of each kind and they will come to you notice God brought them to Noah no they went out with a lasso try to chase them down and reel them in okay God brought the animals to Noah and there's just two of each kind for example Noah did not take 400 pairs of dogs with him on the ark okay he probably never saw a chihuahua or a poodle in his life okay he was a very blessed man did enough to deal with that stuff oh hey he just took two of the dog kind into the other kind and two too many of the cat kind but just two of the basic kinds of animals onto the ark and so with that question with that being laid out there how many are there how many kinds but he actually need to go onto the ark we've done a ton of research on this because of the upcoming project and as Ken mentioned earlier we're thinking the numbers around basically a thousand kinds about two thousand total animals maybe two to three thousand total animals but guys let's do a worst-case scenario worst-case scenario let's say he had to take around 7,500 mammals 4,600 birds and 3700 reptiles two of each seven of the claim and worst case scenario it's around 16,000 animals could you fit 16,000 animals onto the ark well you figure out the square footage it's not hard to do we do the smallest possible architour - according to the smallest cubit it's got three levels figure out square footage not hard all of those animals all 16,000 would only take up around 47% of the Earth's capacity and remember the numbers probably around two or three thousand the ark was plenty big enough for all those animals play room for their supplies from knowing his family and maybe even for other people now we know that only Noah and his family were safe at the point is the Bible says that Noah was a preacher of righteousness and for a hundred years he's building this bone can't you imagine him saying gasps listen repent God's judgment is coming come into the ark with me there was room they no one took him up on it but there was room now does this number include dinosaurs well give you a hint the answer is not no all right but come back tomorrow night for more details when we talk about dinosaurs to talk about that sort of stuff it's really no problem getting animals he need it onto the ark now let's talk about the flood itself because this is where really a whole lot of people kind of miss what's happening here with the flood cell if you look at Genesis 6 verse 13 look at the purpose of the flood I am surely going to destroy both them that's the people and the earth here's a part of God's purpose and the flood was to wreck this world we probably live in a junkyard compared to what the world used to be like before the flood it's interesting if you look before the flood people used to live to be around 900 years old but an active flood they just living betta just around 400 then just 200 years old then just 100 years old they didn't live near as long something changed now if something's probably genetic load and bottleneck and stuff like that but something happened probably to the environment as well what happened in a flood to wreck this world it's like a look at that you go to Genesis 7 verses 1112 and it tells us on that day all the springs of the great deep burst forth and flood gates of heaven open and the rain fell on the earth for 40 days and 40 nights let me do a quick test here how many of you grown up have ever stopped and really thought about the springs of the great deep bursting forth you really thought about that raise your hand if you don't mind I can't it's hard to see it's not that many I'm gonna say around 15 maybe 10% raise your hand if you've heard about the 40 days and 40 nights of rain that's all of us right there even songs about that of course we've heard about that when actually most of water probably came from right here it's interesting when you look at those words springs of the great great deep is referring to subterranean water that's water underneath the crust of the earth there's still something there today that's not a big deal but this water bursts forth through the crust of the earth and that Hebrew verb for burst forth is really interesting it's the same verb used over in numbers when Korah rebelled and God told Moses hey take core and his family put them over there you tell everybody else to move you guys remember the account the ground opens up and swallows the family that's lured the Hebrew word they used opening up the ground same thing is ekor ayah 14 for when them Messiah comes down his foot touches the Mount of Olives and there's a great split and a huge earthquake same Hebrew verb used there so this is describing the ground of the earth breaking open dramatically and moving radically think about this it says on that day all the springs that's all over the earth Springs the great deep subterranean water breaking through the crust of the earth breaking the crust and moving it dramatically guys what happens today when you move the crust of the earth just a little bit what do you get earthquakes tsunamis volcanic activity right remember Japan 2011 the huge devastation that took place at that point you know what happened to cause that tsunami you have two tectonic plates just like this watch real close this is what happened you ready do you see it that's literally all of that happened one nudged against another it caused a huge tidal wave that caused this sort of destruction guys if that's what happens when once that kind of plate just nudges another one what happens if you break the plates apart and move them dramatically your own gets tsunamis volcanic activity earthquakes on a scale we can't even fathom it'd be enough to destroy the world and that was the whole purpose of the flood and the Bible tells us that during the flood the waters rose and they covered the highest mountain so death of more than 20 feet and the war is from the earth for a hundred and fifty days in other words the waters kept rising for 150 days they've rained for 40 days and 40 nights their debates about how much rain actually took place that may be just from the water bursting forth through the crust of the earth and coming back down in the form of torrential rain but the water kept rising for a hundred and fifty days and it tells us in chapter 8 verses 3 & 4 that the water receded for another 150 days that's a long time actually the whole flood event was over a year long do you realize that the whole flood was over a year long why so long can't be dogmatic but I'm gonna assume it's to accomplish God's purposes of killing all of mankind besides known as family and destroying this earth and people say ok that all makes sense that's fine but let me ask you this if there really was a global flood where did the water go that's interesting how much of the earth is covered right now about water about 70% right here's the cool fact if you were to squish down the mountains just a little bit and raise up the ocean basins do you realize that right now the entire earth will be covered by two miles of water there's plenty of water it's also interesting no while we find marine critters fossilised on mountaintops all over the world on the Himalayas on the outs on the Rockies even all Mount Everest marine critters fossilized well it seems to be the Bible implies that the mountains formed toward the ends and after the flood so I'm one of four at the end of the flood the mountains rose up and the valleys sank down as the mountains rose up they carried with them the newly formed fossils as the valley sink down the waters rushed off into these newly formed ocean basins pretty cool I know what pinchy who's heard of Pangaea you heard of that most of us have right the idea of one supercontinent back in the day well the Bible seems to apply that as well you go to Genesis 1:9 and God says let the water under the sky be gathered to one place in the dry ground of pria up here water in one place Lane has to be in one place maybe something like Pangaea or Road Aniyah and then on that day the facts of the great deep burst forth cracking the crust of the earth and you get those plates moving because of continental sprint a set of continental drift and actually you do the math it's interesting slow processes slow snail-paced processes do not have enough energy to move a tectonic plate if you want to move a tectonic plate you need a catastrophic process that produces tons of energy like The Fountains of the great deep bursting forth that would move those plates and we see the scars of this event all over the world the mid-oceanic ridge goes around the earth like the seam of a baseball we've got fault lines all over the world and when they move just a little bit nowadays they still cause earthquakes and volcanoes or tsunamis the guys those are just dim leftovers from the actual major event during Noah's day and so to give it's just a better idea of the power and the magnitude of that event let me show you a video we called the flood initiation video that was sure the Creation Museum gives us a much better idea of what actually happened on that day so different in it is it the way we should be teaching our kids about Noah's Flood amen and that video shows this me ruie you think about for about it from that perspective the Bible is real history that was a real event and show us it shows us his God's holiness his justice and his righteousness it also shows us his mercy and His grace and his provision in that time of his judgment through the Ark of salvation picture of Jesus Christ so that's how we should be presenting the flood of Noah's day and it's interesting of course that all happened and then no one has found they got out the ark they offered sacrifices that's God to show their thanks to God God told them to start reproducing and fill the earth so they did that and Noah's son Shem had a son and he named his son our faqs ad who names their kid our FAC sad so sad all right he names us get our facts ask whatever reason and kitch imagine one day little artifactset is sitting on grandpa Noah's laughing so like hey grandpa why are we the only people on earth where is everybody else and he's gonna tell him about what he's gonna tell about that flood right actually it's interesting if you graph this out Shem Arphaxad steady lived long enough to tell the account directly to Abraham Isaac and Jacob now we don't know if he did but he'd live long enough to do so that's pretty cool and they're gonna keep talk about that event for a long time that can't talked about just a second ago the Tower of Babel splits the people Goods up and with different languages and spreads them across the world but they're gonna keep talking about that event and pass it down to their culture for one generation to another and that's why we see over 270 flood legends all around the world that sound a lot like Genesis and they're so cool give you a couple quick examples over in Hawaii they got this legend says long after the death of Kuni Hana the first man the rule became a wicked terrible place to live there was one good man left his name was new ooh you get one guess as soon who knew who was he made a great canoe with a house on a fiddle with the animals the waters came over all the earth killed all the people only knew and his family were saved sound familiar all right how about this one the ancient Chinese classic called the High King class it talks about Fukai who they call the father of their civilization it says that foo high his wife three sons three daughters that's eight people escaped a great flood his family were the only life on the earth and after the great flood they repopulated the world it's pretty cool those things are literally all over the earth that's really neat speaking of ancient Chinese culture here's an ancient Chinese dialect that they took multiple symbols and put those symbols together to make their words once you look at the three symbols they use to make the word boat vessel eight people where do they get that idea from right there Genesis six through nine I was so cool that's a really cool study by the way font to keep going down that road lots of good stuff there so you get all these great confirmations that they count and then also the Bible is actually the biblical council great explanation for the Ice Age all right who else loves the saber-tooth squirrel let's see it a bunch of heathens all right I'm just check right there with you he's funny I said there definitely was an ice age and here's what's interesting to get an ice age you need a really weird combination of events you need warm waters and you need a cold atmosphere and cold continents and that's a hard combination to get but the flood provided it perfectly because the subterranean water came forth that'd be warmer wired subterranean also the lava flows into the ocean increased the temperatures of the ocean that causes a whole lot of evaporation but because of all the volcanic activity shooting the air sauce into the sky it's gonna block the sunlight so you get cool atmosphere but very warm waters the warm waters cause us a lot of water come up and evaporate and then because it's a cool atmosphere the water comes back down in the form of snow or ice and computer simulations show you need an ice age to come and go in roughly about five hundred years after the flood not hard to do and here's why this is really so important during the Ice Age because much of the Earth's waters tied up in the form of glaciers at our own land what's that do to the ocean levels they're going to drop right and once you drop the ocean levels a couple hundred feet guess what you reveal land bridges between the major continents and things can spread out all over the world and live in different places and then as the ice age starts to recede and the mice caps melt in the ocean levels rise certain continents get cut off and certain animals get stuck in certain places maybe like that's why I was wanting kangaroos in Australia so forth and so on so really good just confirmation of that event all over the place now that's pretty cool if you go to either pole north or south any drill past all the snow and ice get you guess what you find tropical lush vegetation this world is once a very different place just really cool to think about then also the flood displays the so called Stone Age because what's known as family gets off the ark you can't go to Lowe's or Home Depot and get some new supplies to rebuild your house just not there you just have to make do Plus after the flood warm oceans cause really bad storms hurricanes even hyper canes so maybe for the first couple hundred years after the flood it's just about survival use simple rock tools just survive to everything calms down a little bit then you can build your civilizations and then of course as Ken is where I mentioned since the gods were true and there was a global flood we would expect to find billions of dead things buried in rock layers laid down by water all over the earth that's exactly what we find but Before we jump into these let me ask you this a little question when do fossils exist past or present careful they just any present if they didn't we wouldn't have them true they exist right now all right and here's the thing you gotta realize I went to some of the finds a bone in the dirt it doesn't come with a label on it saying hey I'm 65 million years old made in Taiwan all right or whatever boss if they don't come like that no when you find a bone in the dirt all you know for sure is that something has what something has died exactly right and so you have to interpret what you're looking at and everyone comes to that evidence with a world view instead of philosophical glasses that you put on to understand what you're looking at I see really this whole issue about evolution millions of years fossils and rock layers it's really a worldview issue because all scientists whether their secular or biblical they got the same stuff they got the same rock layers in the same fossils in the same Radio isotopes and so forth but guys they interpret those things differently based on their different starting assumptions based on a different worldview and if you start with the wrong assumptions guess what you get you know get the wrong answers to wrong conclusions there are myriad of stories I could go along with this but when you saw this wrong with substance people can make good observations and really reach wrong conclusions let me tell you story about some scientists who decided to do an experiment on a frog and they wanted to see how high the Frog could jump as they progressively off its legs one at a time love frog lovers okay okay yeah I know it's in the name of science so it's okay so it took it for all they put the frog on the ground and they yell at the Frog jump frog frog jumped 80 inches that's not bad they picked the frog up cut off on Luke put them back on the ground here's three legs then again jump for all frog jumped 70 inches they pick them back up cut off another leg put them back down Gian that again jump frog frog jump 60 inches with two legs that's pretty good they took him cut off another leg put them back down jump frog frog jumped 50 inches with one leg that's impressive so they picked up the Frog they cut off the last leg the Frog back on the ground yelled at the Frog jump frog frog didn't move they yelled louder jump frog frogs didn't move they were baffled you know they expected the jump might be around 40 inches based on the progression of the data actual jump was zero so they tried the experiment again you know with a new frog and they got the same results every time so the scientists got together they put their data together they said you know what the frog jumped less as the legs were removed okay it's good observation all right so we must conclude that a frog with no legs goes death bad conclusion right people can make really good observations but still reach wrong conclusions why when you start with the wrong worldview when you start with the wrong assumptions about the past so guys here's the thing we're talking about rock layers and fossils they exist in the present they must be interpreted don't argue that that there of course they're there the questions are how did the rock layers get there and what do their features confirm do they confirm slow gradual processes over millions of years or the biblical account of a rapid catastrophic flood that laid them down very quickly so we're gonna look at the rock layers and fossils pretty quickly cover a whole lot of information alright so let's talk about the rock layers first during the flood you expect to find rock layers produced during the flood because the flood waters are moving all over the earth because of the tidal changes and turbidity currents and tsunamis the flood waters are moving and because it's gonna sort rocks by weight and density and size and circumference so you expect the rocks we lay down a particular layers because of those sorts of things it's called a process called hydrodynamic sorting of sediment sounds really fancy it's just this idea take a jar put different types of dirt in there silt mud sand gravel shake the jar up set it down it'll settle in two layers for you right in front of your eyes it's what you expect to save you're seeing one of these just take it flip it upside down give you rock layers pretty quickly and people say but wait a minute doesn't it take millions of years to get a rock layer well here's a ship Bell in rock don't think the ship's belt is millions of years old all right all right about this here's a clock in Iraq pretty sure the clock is not to millions of years old how about this here's a spark plug in case they rock I don't think it's millions of years old either right people say but okay but what about all the oil and the coal the rock layers doesn't that take millions of years to form actually it doesn't here's a factory in Texas they said well mother nature took many of you to do we do in about 30 minutes you can get oil in no time at all alright need to run I'm right amount enough heat and pressure and water and get oil in hours or days doesn't take much time same thing with coal you can get coal in hours or days or weeks all he needed to write him on a heat and pressure and water you get cold in no time at all or how about this in 1980 when Mount st. Helens erupted the blue would stop that produced rock layers thousands of rock layers big ones smollett's literally in hours and days it did not take millions of years it formed canyons like this one called the mini and Grand Canyon because it's 140 at the size of the Grand Canyon it form this Canyon in days or weeks it did not take millions of years fantastic observational evidence it doesn't take millions of years to form these sort of structures all you need to say catastrophe and guys if you want bigger canyons and bigger rock layers all you need is a bigger catastrophe say like a global flood exactly right and just like this little river did not make this Canyon this little river did not make that Canyon either and the Grand Canyon is a whole nother talk that's can't alluded to earlier today some of these rock layers that cover the earth are huge most of them cover entire continents sometimes multiple continents listen to this low clip from our PhD geologist Andrew Snelling talking about this phenomenon it's pretty cool evidence number three rapidly deposited sediment layers right across the continents we find that everywhere we Lord look at the red wall limestone full of fossils in the Grand Canyon get the same limestone layer is found in the same position over in Pennsylvania then over in England and even in the Himalayas the chalk pits the White Cliffs of Dover we find the same chocolate in Europe in the Middle East over into Kazakhstan we find the same chalk beds with the same fossils in Texas and Midwestern United States we find the same chalk beds in Western Australia the coal beds of Pennsylvania and West Virginia are also found in in England and Europe right across to the Ural Mountains that's pretty cool right and then interesting it in these rock layers if you look between the rock layers are usually laid one right on top of the other flat nice edges no signs of slowing no signs of soil buildup it's like one Rock layer was laid out very quickly another one lay down right on top of it top of it with no time to spare actually if you cut into the Grand Canyon sideways and looked at the rock layers what you'll notice from top to bottom no signs of erosion in between these rock layers were supposedly 300 million years of history but on top there's a whole lot of erosion like the layers were laid down quickly then I wrote it at the top pretty cool or if you look between the rock layers we do sometimes find fossilized max sometimes small trucks and things like trilobite bigger chats like dinosaur tracks and you guys know how this works right you go to the beach you walk on the sand and your foot footprints fossilized and forming the fossils right they hard and turn the stone they just stay there forever right is that what happens that will happen to your footprints they get washed away to get these to stick around you need a very special process the same thing here we see fossilized ripples waters going over this forming ripples fossilized raindrops what's really cool about all those sorts of things is here's what has to happen it has to be a rock layer that's laid down it's still soft and then those formations form and then another rock layer comes in right on top of it to protect it from erosion so it can actually take time to harden and fossilized inform it to a fossil well it means is the rock layers had to be laid out very quickly one after the other not slowly over millions of years also interesting as we look at these footprints in the rock layers they tend to be going up through the fossil record and it actually seems we tend to see the footprints go up and the dead critter is higher up in the fossil record it's almost as if the poor little critter is trying not to get buried alive he's working his way up he's digging he's digging he's walking up through the layers as best he can and then at some point poor guy just runs out of gas and he gets stuck there and he dies that's what's going on and then there's the thing of bioturbation who sort of bioturbation I guess what that is you actually do you just pry don't know the right word for how many view have kids yes kids all right bioturbation is the idea that life leaves evidence it was there life leaves a mess can I get an amen from the parents somewhere I've got a son who's just now about to turn one and I'm amazed how much Kotak he can just destroy your room in a minute 25 seconds I've timed it it's amazing just pulls everything down why he does it but just pulls everything down all right kids leave a mess bioturbation you see I did that life leaves a mess at dick's to the ground and looks for homes it's looking for food life leaves a mess and here's the thing as we look at rock layers these rock layers are beautiful they're pristine see this should be happening animals digging through the dirt they're trying to find animals food to eat they're trying to make a home or whatever so these reckless should be messed up this should be pretty but what we observe in the world our beautiful rock layers one right on top of the other with no sign of bioturbation no sign of life leaving a mess it's like they were laid down very quickly during a catastrophic event how did that happen or there's tightly bent strata all over the world now this is crazy multiple rock layers supposedly millions of years old but they're all bent together in the same direction sometimes at 90-degree angles and they're not even cracking if you try to take a rock and you try to bend a rock what happens yeah either the rock breaks or your arm breaks right something's going to give way but rocks don't bend but we see rock formations like this all over the world where the rocks did Ben how's that possible well see the rock layers they had all to be soft at the same time and then bent together in the same direction while they're still soft and then they hardened in place that means all these rock layers were laid down around the same time then bent together around the same time or there's this you got polystrate fossils poly being multiple strategists rock layers so these are fossils that go through multiple rock layers this tree for example goes to a coal layer a rock layer and then another coal layer up top and that's a real problem for the evolutionists because those are supposedly hundreds of thousands of years but how long does a dead tree stand up in your neck of the woods alright it still stand up that long yeah we find these poly strata fossils going through multiple rock layers all around the world here our friend some trees are going through multiple rock layers upside down and that's a real problem for the evolutions they're fantastic evidence those rock layers are just not that old what about stalactites and stalagmites who's ever gone to the cave formation that you hear the same spiel don't touch the formation they took millions of years of form you heard that yeah you know stalactites they're the things that hang on tight to the ceiling the stalagmites are you know they're on the ground where they grow together and form a column we call that a column okay that's best word we got okay but yeah you got these formations and it used to be suggested it took about a hundred thousand years to get one cubic inch of flow stone formation water carries minerals of water evaporates and minerals build up and you get things like that we found it just doesn't take that long here's some CELAC tights that grew in about 50 years at the Lincoln Memorial around five feet long there's just like tight at the bottom here's a cave or mind I should say over in Austria the mine was closed down for 50 years they opened it up look at the size of the select ice that grew in just 50 years knows the people for scale all right that's just a tip of the iceberg you can go up to Wyoming and you go to a place where they piped in some hot mineral water they actually tapped enzyme in our water came up through the pipes and as the water came up it carried minerals in the water you know went away you guys know how this works right anybody got sinks like this and the wire leaves those mineral traces behind you see the left on your sink and I do have to tell you that these are not our sinks my wife will get mad if I did not tell you but these are not in our house all right but the water leaves behind minerals look what form in just a hundred years over in Wyoming that's a lot of lime all right now that's gonna take some lime away all right I'm gonna tell you that's gonna take some work some elbow grease it's not gonna be easy all right yeah here's another one just down the road formed in about the same amount of time here's another one again huge flow stone formation forming in just hundred 100 years does it take millions of years I actually like this quote from the book caving into reality this geologist says what geologists used to believe was fact in terms of dating cave is now speculation from 1924 to 1988 there's a visitor sign above the interest to cause bad caverns that said Carlsbad was at least 260 million years old then in 1988 the sign was changed to read seven to ten million years old there for a little while the sign read that it was two million years old and now the sign is gone it's got tired of changing the sign I can't blame them right just does not take that long guys here's what we see over and over again what we see in the real world with real observational science confirms that the biblical history is correct and rejects the idea of evolutionary long slow gradual processes isn't it exciting being a Christian and then also see you guys work affirm time and again love that truly Noah's Flood just washes away the idea of millions of years it really does and then what about the dead things and all those rock layers let's talk about some of the features of the fossils and of course we had tons of fossils at the Creation Museum this one about Allosaurus and the first thing we need to realize is that the fossil record is really a record of death that's what it is and interestingly DeRose at 95 percent of the fossil record is of marine invertebrates those critters without a backbone guys why is 95% of the fossil record made up of marine critters could it be there was a global catastrophic flood that wrecked this world of the remaining 5-percent most of its plants and outies only a very small fraction of the fossil record is actually land vertebrates most of them are marine critters and to get a fossil requires some very special conditions I mean think about like this if you're a pet fluffy die right knee left fluffy in the backyard you didn't bury fluffy this fluffy gonna turn into a fossil No right this is what happens to fluffy I know it's sad but fluffy is gonna disappear right because the scavengers and bacteria knots is getting and so forth bacteria is going to decay and break down actually to get a fossil you have to bury fluffy very quickly and deeply to protect her away from oxygen and bacteria and so forth so she can take time to actually become a fossil you think about like this millions of Buffalo have died out west over the past 200 years and most of them did not fossilize why because they weren't catastrophically bury same thing in the oceans when fish died they don't typically sink to the bottom I get covered up very slowly and become a fossil usually a fish die they float and they get they get eaten by scavengers and stuff like that actually an entire well carcass is gone in ten years it will not become a fossil in normal situations it takes very special rapid unique conditions to make a fossil you see if we make a fossil here's what you got to do you got to sneak up on your pet fish Nemo right he's just chillin one day in his tank I'm a good day and you get a whole bunch of dirt maced it together with some minerals we call that concrete right and dump all that concrete all Nemo very quickly surprise him bury him deeply catastrophic and so to speak protecting him from scavengers and oxygen to decay and so forth and he will more than likely become a fossil so you got to do and we got tons of examples of this process for example here's a fish fossilized in the very act of eating another fish this is almost instantaneous this poor guy didn't even get to finish his last meal all right that's why I call this fossil the Last Supper which it's only really funny of the Christians I found that out too but anyway yeah yeah here's a hand that fossilized in less than 60 years I don't know if Kent showed this earlier no relation to him he says but actually fossilized in less than 60 years after being buried univille Kanak explosion here's an excuse and the very act of giving birth and it does not take millions of years to give birth praise God said the ladies amen yeah no this was happened this happened very very quickly and of course this artifact had to be buried quickly and catastrophic ly to be preserved it's such a relic I don't know how you could keep that around that's cause a fake one but be honest who has some cassette tapes laying around somewhere anybody you meet got the love tape you made for your girlfriend or boyfriend or spouse laying around somewhere yeah remember that who's got some of these laying around anybody the a check players a couple okay yeah no the point is this to get fossils you need very special typically rapid catastrophic conditions to make fossils let's talk about some of the some of the things we see about the fossils some of the characteristics of them for one thing we find a lot of fresh fossils and use that word very loosely the word fresh what I mean by that well look at this fossil of a shrimp this fossil is supposedly six 360 million years old first of all what does it look like shrimp hasn't changed much right the second strip it's retained most of its color low notes of detail the fossil and some of the guys who found it said they reported smelling a fishy smell when they opened up the fossil that's what I mean by fresh or how about this here's a fossilized squid where they could actually still use the ink to write with it was supposedly 150 million years old well how about this one here are some red blood cells inside an unfollows section of a t-rex bone you got plain stretchy tissue inside a tissue or blood vessels inside the blood vessels are red blood cells now guys these organic remnants are made of mostly water they should not last for hundreds of years maybe thousands of years after the death of the critter no way millions of years but yet there they are we find these all over the place I'm not sure if can't show this video I'll go ahead and show up the lady who found this was a lady named Mary Schweitzer say might heard of her she actually found this couple of you and she's looking at it from an evolution worldview and so she sees the blood vessels and the red blood cells and she says this is impossible there's no way this is true so did it convince her to change her worldview no because her world view tells how to interpret what she's looking at watch the video and just can actually watch it think of the power of a worldview as you watch this it's pretty amazing not gonna believe this but when she picked up a small piece to stop the reaction by putting it in water it stretched and it's brined and it moved all over the place so we knew we had something pretty unusual it appears to be soft tissue when they look at neighboring parts of the bone they're even more surprised pretty incredible and I said I don't believe it that's not possible we need to do it again and again it's one of those just goose bump inducing scientific moments that's all I can say and I did they don't really happen very often blood vessels should not exist in fossilized bone many scientists believe organic molecules can't last more than a hundred thousand years yet Schweitzer's bone is 68 million years old I think the presence of soft tissues and cells indicates there's a process going on have a clue about so I think it means that we have to kind of rethink the whole chemical process of making a bone turn into a fossil wait what we got to rethink the chemical process don't rethink the age you can't do that there must be some unknown natural process that we have never observed that somehow made these things last for millions of years that is the power of a worldview tells you how to interpret what you're looking at we have to remember that this is ultimately a heart issue time and time again so as we look at the rock layers we see features like that also we find muscle a massive fossil graveyards all over these things are gigantic they cover to three-fourths of the Earth's land surface as much as forty thousand feet thick and there are billions sometimes almost trillions of fossils in these areas and remember to make a fossil takes very rapid special conditions there's no process right now no mechanism that's forming these sorts of fossil graveyards this large all over the world something very different happened in the past people say okay well wait a minute don't we tend to find these fossils in a particular general order and doesn't that prove the idea of evolution and we do tend to find them in a general tendency in just local areas not know worldwide correlations but they do tend to be in a general order locally tons of exceptions marine fossils all the way through but there's a general order that general order is fish amphibians and reptiles and mammals will bottom sea dwellers at the very bottom and so because that's the general order of the general tendency most evolutionists will argue this is the general order of evolution bottom sea dwellers an efficient and if they be insane reptiles and mammals so from a biblical perspective why do we even see this general tendency what's think about during a flood things gonna be buried probably primarily according to where they live their habitats right what are clams live the BOD of the ocean where they gonna be buried from the bottom of the ocean alright Burstyn live in trees they're gonna be should be very last humans are very mobile living up or high lest they should be very less that's what we tend to see also intelligence is gonna play a role in this how smart is a clam I don't know how you measure that but I'm assuming not very smart right so they can't really run away mobility is a big part clams can't run humans can birds can fly tuna find them last as you should and then body density they're gonna be sorted out by way in the moving water so forth and so on but the biggest factor of where things gonna be buried in the flood is according to where they live and that makes the most sense so who lives in the lowest ecological niche who should be very first as the water levels cover the earth all this mud and dirt and minerals who's buried first the bottom sea dwellers right they're gonna fossilized first who's next up in elevation the Nets ecological niche would be the fish when they're buried next who's next up who lives in the shallow waters and the lowlands that's your amphibious things like frogs their necks up in the low water so that lowlands that's gonna be your reptiles and of course last but not least I'm gonna be your what gonna be your mammals who live in the highlands people are extremely mobile and smart they're gonna live for the Hyland's birds can fly expect to find them less and indeed you do that's exactly what you expect to find during the global events of the flood and then of course is we talked about fossils we can't fail to mention this we don't see the idea of macro-evolution happening today right we don't see birds or animals changing to hold different kinds of animals we don't see the littoral crawl good little bird dog it's my favorite one right or the line of rou animals aren't changing from one kind to another evolutionists say yeah that's a silly picture because you know it just happened so slowly that's why you can't see it which I think you could argue about that too but okay let's just give that to him so where should the evidence be if they did change from one kind to a whole nother we should find evidence in the fossil record all right we should find billions of these transitions of one mo change it's a whole different kind of animal and they're just not there there's only a handful these guys that the evolutions are willing to even argue over and those are clearly invented intermediates based on fragments of false arrangements just based on the evolutionary worldview being true it's interesting Darwin knew this was the biggest problem to his theory it's like I know it is he wrote in his book fossils are the biggest problem we don't find these transitional fossils in the rock layers they're just not there his solution if we just keep digging in the dirt one day if we keep digging through the rock layers we will find these intermediate transitional links these missing links so to speak so we're now over 150 years past Darwin over 100 million fossils in our museums here's what I'm very honest secure scientists said knowledge of the fossil record has been greatly expanded ironic we have even fewer examples of evolutionary transition than we had in Darwin's time how many did Darwin actually have zero we now have less than that all right that's that's a pretty bad way for the evolutionists and as you look at the fossils it's interesting there's no change from past to present you give the fossils into two main groups critters that went extinct like the outsource or critters that are saying as though today they look generally the same for example if you look through this whole geological record supposedly five hundred million years ago and you found a starfish supposedly five hundred million years old guess what it looks like a starfish right and you just go all the way down through the line they all look the same save for one difference we do tend to see in the fossil record in the past these many things got bigger than they are today but John we're here about that because that'd be kind of de-evolution things are getting smaller and worse not bigger and better over time but it's really intriguing they're all over the place for example here's a fossilized dragonfly with a 50 inch wingspan do not hit him with your car he'll go through your front windshield and join you in the front seat all right roaches get pretty big today yeah I love the response when I share that picture it's great um here we have found some fossilized roaches 18 inches long I mean I'm just saying I don't know what to do if that happened all right you can have the house moving right yeah we find fossilized centipedes 8 and a half feet long what do you do with that I don't know yes you need your shotgun we found fossilized grasshoppers 2 feet long cuz that'd be good hunting catch some of those bring them back home buy some good eats then cover them a chocolate maybe I don't know right spiders get pretty big today Goliath spider here's the spider with a 3-foot leg span I don't know what to do with that I think I just run away and cry all right when I see the Blood rhinoceros 18 feet tall kangaroos 10 feet tall we found wombat fossils the size of a Mini Cooper and that is a big critter we have fun fossilized rodents or guinea pigs up to 1,500 pounds Discovery Channel rightly called it rat Zilla which is pretty appropriate right for that is pretty amazing we have found crocodiles 40 feet long beavers 6 feet long salamanders 6 feet long huge turtles over in South Dakota my favorite because I love the great white shark we have found teeth that look like the great whites that big which means the shark itself was around 80 plus feet long belongs to the Megalodon and Megalodon is probably just a great great-great-great-great great-great-great grandpa of the great white let's be glad they're still not around today that could be a problem all right hey we're still here the guys you see the cool thing is once again as we look at the rocks and the fossils that we see all these dead things raiding rock layers they again confirmed the biblical glasses they confirm the biblical worldview and I show God's Word is true from the very beginning and they reject the idea of evolution of slow changes over time isn't it awesome being a Christian isn't it exciting absolutely I'm glad 10 people are so idle I can't says but the but know I went into this last note because I really think it puts everything into perspective all the stuff we've been talking about there are canyons on Mars that are much larger than the Grand Canyon they're huge right and that's interesting how do you get the canyons bigger than the Grand Canyon on Mars right well here's the thing scientific America which is not a creationist organization if you don't know they said these canyons that were bigger than the Grand Canyon they formed in just weeks Oh Mars how do you get canyons the form of just weeks bigger than the Grand Canyon on Mars this is what they said I'm not making it up Sequoia from there they're readings they said a flood of biblical proportions carved an instant Grand Canyon on Mars guys I'm confused I don't know what to think right now I mean is this what's what's happening here's the interesting thing they're willing to believe in a flood of biblical proportions on a planet that has little or no liquid water but not willing to believe in a flood of biblical proportions on a planet covered by 70% water how can they be so blind because you know what the P I PhD does not change a man's heart and not that PhDs are bad our bad but our hearts are they're deceitful and wicked the Bible tells the second Peter 3:3 through verse 7 that in the last days they'll be scoffers and they will come there'll be scoffing after their own desires and they'll say where is this promise is coming for everything goes on as it has since the beginning of creation long slow gradual process is no divine intervention why well because they deliberately forget three things they forget three things on purpose what is it those three things the creation the flood and the coming judgment why because if those things are true there's a Creator God who made us he owns us he sets the rules we're accountable to him he's just the world in the past he's going to do it again in the future and sinful man does not like that idea this is has been and always will be a heart issue a worldview issue and really what the fossils and the rock layers tell us they were - of God's holiness and it's justice and it's mercy in that Ark of salvation they should promise to share the gospel of Jesus Christ of our - we need to have answers for the hope that we have answering the skeptical questions of this a showing God's Word is true so we share the gospel with boldness amen amen you guys that is what this is all about I hope you don't miss this about this conference it's not about just having answers but having those answers preparing the way for the gospel of Jesus Christ and that's what it's all about that's why we're so passionate it really is and with that being said it's also why we're passionate about our resources because here's the thing I'll talk fast can I get a Amen how are you gonna get Amen it's great I'll talk fast can't talk fast question who talks faster raise your hand for Ken raise your hand for me it's like a 50/50 split you guys aren't helping me at all okay I was just curious but anyway okay we talk fast we're gonna talk about a lot of stuff he talked about the races I'm talking about the rock layers and the fossils that's good but here's the one sad thing about that you know what studies show about your retention of all that how much do you think you actually remember three days from now of what we just went over yeah that percentage it's hard to various studies show around 10% that's encouraging right pasture how many of you have ever done this I love this example you came to church on Sunday pasture kills it was awesome you leave thinking Jose got to hear this at work right that's what you're thinking so you think okay Wednesday rolls around there's Joe Hey Joe what's going on let me tell you something that Pastor said this weekend I what was it he talked about Jesus and the Bible and it was good you should hear it okay thanks it really we forget so much so quickly and that's why we won't get the resources into your hands so when you do forget you can read it again watch the video share with people guys we got tons of resources on Noah's Ark on the flow we got tons of books some here some art I encourage you to check those out the books the answers books 1 2 3 & 4 have tons of chapters about rock layers and about fossils about Noah's Ark and so forth same thing for the kids and for the teen skin Mitch in these earlier dinosaurs I talked about tomorrow night that's a fun great talk you don't want to miss that it really is a good time lots of great information Noah's Flood and it's for Noah kids book for know a book about Noah for kids rhyme book we presented as real history no bathtub arcs in these books fantastic resources tons of great videos this video right here by Terry Morton is probably the closest thing to my talk if you needed to hear that again if I went too fast I want to share it with a friend that might be something we'll check out flood geology when the the fount of the great deep burst forth in that video I showed you that little videos on that flood geology DVD if you want that and then because we talk about this tomorrow tons of great stuff don't forget the sale out there I love the begin book even at the end of begin book and answer some of these questions about rock layers and fossils and so forth you can check that out be sure you buy that for three bucks share it use the tool don't forget the magazine and also got a great curricula for homeschoolers ask me about that if you want to know more don't forget to sign up for the free update just to be kept abreast of what's going on in the ministry of the arc house progressing and of course you can follow me and can any of the other speakers online i didn't have a facebook before i left now i've got two of them which is kind of funny i've got a personal one and a public one so you can just kind of check out both in the public one more for a ministry personal and you see my son ian who's just awesome walking around all kinds of stuff so anyway so you can follow us follow us there and i want to leave you with a quote I think kind of summarizes what we're talking about here this is from an Anglican hymn writer back in the eighteen hundreds attributed to Martin Luther he says something very similar but this is what she said I think it's very poignant for what we've been talking about she's if I profess with the loudest voice and clears exposition every portion of the truth of God except precisely that little point where the world and the devil are at that moment attacking I am NOT confessing Christ how verbally I may be professing Christ wherever the battle rages there the loyalty of the soldier is proved and to be steady on all the battlefield besides its mere flight and disgrace if he flinches at that one point guys let's recognize where the attack is taking place to the game let's enter the front lines about standing confidently on the Word of God answering the skeptical questions of this age so we can share the gospel of Bowness amen
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