Are the end times imminent? (1/2)

[Music] well as once a familiar sight on many British high streets to see men wearing sandwich boards declaring the end of the world is nigh the sandwich boards may have gone but the message hasn't here in Glasgow and in many other British cities evangelical missionaries have come from the United States proclaiming the same message and there are some homegrown doom mongering churches too why do they think the world's about to end because the Bible says it will happen when people become lovers of self lovers of money proud arrogant abusive disobedient to their parents ungrateful unholy heartless unappeasable slanderous without self-control brutal treacherous reckless swollen with conceit lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God sounds like our audience this morning and when this happens Jesus will come again to judge the world and rebuke it for its sins sins are the end times eminent dr. mark Vincent the Sterling christadelphians you've studied this yeah absolutely HD in theology and biblical studies what are the signs so there's a number of sides there are some sort of general background signs of the passage that you've just quoted we would give you some of those you know we've had the Noah movie just released I've not actually seen it yet but Jesus actually is that movie is it that bad is going to lead to the end of the world well so it's interesting that Jesus said that there's going to be parallel between how things were in Noah's day and how things are going to be before he's coming and what's that about that's about violence in society you know we've had we've had more people massacred in the last century than that and that's just a result of you know the exponential growth of technology and weaponry and those sorts but in the hunt in the one hundred nine thousand years of human history and the 4.5 billion years of our world 65 million years since the dinosaurs became extinct there have been ups and downs there have been in denial there but I think it's I think it's interesting how you know so many things that have changed exponentially in recent times you know if you think about if you think about a population the consumption of resources technology communication we're going to try what will happen well so talk us through it okay right so so a key point here and to make this a bit more specific the Bible has a lot to say about Jerusalem know Jesus will come back to the earth I want to know what what we'll have right then I'm so so so so actually the Old Testament the Hebrew Bible so that's two and a half thousand years ago that the New Testament Jesus said that the end of times wouldn't come until the Jews were back in the land of in the land of Palestine that's not a political Cutler that's not a sign that that's a sign right but what will happen so that's that's only been the case since 1948 what will happen so and then the Bible also talks about a Jeep at the geopolitical cry no no that will be and will happen that will be centered on Jerusalem okay okay what what will this look like Jesus coming back to earth that that's that that's quite remarkable isn't it yeah um that there's there's there's Jewish land right in the center of the map it's that it's the you know it's okay debated point of from a day old religion when Jesus comes down what will happen so and that's the that's the fantastic news release I was thinking what will happen is that Jesus will will become the future king of the world so you know we've talked about that you know some of the disillusionment in politics we've talked about what when king of the world what would the world be like well so there's obviously a lot of work to do there's a lot of redistribution of resources there is enough food in the world to feed Potocki Jesus would be the world despite our best effort he'll be the world God had in world government we've yet that's right yeah we've not democracy or will he be a dictator what we would theoretically we would we would like to be able to feed everyone but you know we've not achieved it who better could there be to actually lead these initiatives and Jesus other than Jesus yeah okay um so at Chris you're a man of religion is it is it I mean he wants the end of the world to come in a sense or a new phase is this dangerous thinking is very dangerous thing he I think in in American politics for example you can see how this illegitimate I the handling of the Palestinian problem for example it's okay it's meant to happen there or let it happen these people are being a self-fulfilling prophecy so it's self fulfilling and that's the kind of thing at every bit in the Bible isn't there a little misunderstanding of the world so total misunderstanding of what eschatology is the Jewish people had this image of a loving God who was always with them but what they experienced told them they were in slavery in Egypt were taken away by the Babylonians were hammered by the Assyrians they were under occupation by the Romans and they were suffer for goodness sake when is God gonna sort all this out and effectively the whole eschatology was a bar and the word is God gonna come and clear up this mess yeah it wasn't about the end of the world it was when is God going to put his program of love interaction that's what it was about alik youth you think we are in end times don't you yes I do and I'm not a scientist now I'm not a mathematician or anyone like then I believe the Bible totally to be true literally fact you're yet literally true Lot's wife turning to America to debate the holy body all day long okay we tell us about the end times right well the N times begins according to Jesus is when the Jews are back in Israel right and he says this he said Jerusalem will be trampled by the Gentiles until the age of the Gentiles is finished 14th of May 1948 Ezekiel prophesied in Ezekiel chapter 37 that the the dry bones would come to life again when God would take the Jewish people other portents and bring them into the Promised Land no what are the portents other well the other portents Jesus says in his sermon in Matthew 24 he said there would be famines there would be wars always no famines there's always been families but if you check if you check the exponential growth of famines from the 15th century to the 20th century climate change climate change here yeah it because it says in Luke's Gospel chapter 21 it says that there will be tsunamis it says there will be tremendous floods there will be chaos in the world K right so those are all of these no no no type at least what will happen can I just see then when the time because I want people in the Bible sure there's a whole litany of evidence it says there will be a major invasion by Russia Turkey Iran Libya Ethiopia says an abaya yes at the Bible Ezekiel 38 you can read it yourself they said they will invade Jerusalem and God will send floods hail fire upon them it says that the people in Jerusalem were going to suffer terribly in the very last days and then the end will come okay I think it's a terrible thing well it's what the Bible says is a Bible well I mean what actually happens if I'm eternally pushing this Nicky Sebago say who takes the Bible the terrible face I mean he says wait wait wait golfers will plate why cheeks will come yeah Peter says that second Peter chapter 3 this what will happen to those you don't put it the whole stage what will happen to those yeah Wow hell yeah what will happen to those who don't believe they're gonna help no and then yes there we are the scoffers not only be good at hell after hell the lake of fire more that's what the Bible says John or the lake of fire whoa don't you don't say they go to hell appoint a Charles Kennedy see people exceedingly traverse all right the last days he says the last days you will be skeptics and scoffers forever can you come back this week Charles Kennedy it all joke wasn't that about the Reverend in Paisley when he was at the height of his powers and and he said in the day of reckoning will be anguish and will be suffering and hardship and gnashing of teeth and this old lady in the congregation said but Reverend Paisley I don't have any kings and he said teeth will be provided you know I I can I can only see I must have bought a different edition of the Bible from the one I've this behavior [Applause] in a minute Alec I want to bring somebody else's the Bible I want to bring another sin read we are all sinners I want to bring another one in Ian Scott from the Glasgow skeptics there's all in the Bible you her dialectics yes yeah good cuz I start you on scatter good for skeptics is that's for dog dogs is no Babel says there's no dogs in heaven it's actually skeptics sexual gigs like dogs in heaven my dogs gonna be yes tonight but hahahaha but skeptics only good dogs the Bible's a young okay now follow the other dogs in hell as well and I definitely think the in teams are coming absolutely but perhaps not in quite the same thing skill that you do and you know science is like time school well interests and I think well so let me do it let me ask you this then if you do think the end times are imminent what sort of time scale do you have have you been collecting pensions when the roof caves in do you decide to patch up or just the AK is still probably in no matter tomorrow what's what do you do have a Samantha really foolish said nearly Rossi you sent me a lot of us maybe by 2016 that's right 2016 good that this this this was a part of the referendum any John Babbage's like I see if I guess a yes food it will be the end of the world well there goes again yeah Geneva's Leslie seriously this is a packed this university park the audience of a democratic decision with all the people that believe the same thing and get away and that's not democracy Chris Chris Nikki did it is a 2016 and K there was a 19th century preacher called Nelson Darby who started all this introducing all these words called your John Nelson Darby these words like rapture and all these things didn't exist in the Bible yesterday with a guy likes Scofield in 1909 who wrote the Scofield Bible and in it he had a lot of notes and picking passages yeah and all this detailing the end of the world and this Bible sold very popular in this whole cult you can call this dangerous cult gone off the ground and then leave one behind series which is a whole lot of fiction about how this whole world feel like Chris you made the point earlier on there is a strain of you know I think there's a bit of it in all over the world in Iran of course they're waiting for this the lost lost prophet to come there and there's a kind of apocalyptic millenarian thing and also in America of course but there are people who actively want this to happen oh yes yeah they wanted to happen for them it's a bit all these signs all these disasters are that the end of the world but what it actually is doing is negating their responsibility if you want something I do it well neither does God I can speak for God because I get it yeah you said I nobody else because but you're speaking for God but the character your God is a violent murder a really good shot and loving God you live in you yes do you preach from the pulpit that God is a violent mantra no I do not does see the Old Testament they killed but that's like a kind of God that you're talking what's the character of you God as I see is represented in Jesus up to letter loving inclusive compassionate God and this God's going to annihilate them in what way does that weighed on the question right there Jesus talk more about Hell about heaven but Jesus took more about la-z-boy it doesn't worry about love he talks much more about Hell because He loves us no G's is equal to my fake it's time it's time for what on this world it's cut it's part-time time but just because part you you'd be wanting to come in these things I really must see you an end times person I will the thing is the question was the other end times imminent in the scriptures it tells us that in the eyes of God and the light of eternity a thousand years is but a D so we could have yes we are that the key the key sign of the end times is apostasy people godlessness people of and we've seen that all morning and orphans yes but we've seen other effects a complete godless it and Nikki there's a more recent there's a more recent prophecy about the end times which has the blessing of the church in the church does not lately a encouraged us to go after like drive appreciate something wonderful for promotions I don't wait this is interesting how many producers we 34 predictions yes individual predictions on the end times since the year 2000 we're actually entering a new one into this time looking forward very much there's no any end times would be this is not a prediction just our prediction let's go to Charles you're watching the debate now well no no I'm not but I genuinely interested the research that's been done you keep asking the correct question what will happen now you must have dealt with people kind of people that go to the top of be nervous because the world is going to come to an end the quarter o'clock next Wednesday afternoon and it doesn't and they have to come back down again do this do so now when when you when you deal with people when you've interviewed people for research but that is not what will happen but what didn't happen what do they see so I think there's you know that gets into the question of how people interpret the Bible and people you know trying to trying to you know predict specific dates and that and I think you can see that the world like a little what the Bible in a puzzle roughly and they know what is he see not final video to try and predict the end of the world that's you know that that's not what it's about what it what it gives us a broad scenario and it looks Lena there are really interesting correspondences between what the what the Bible predicts and the you know the broad period that we're now living in sounds like politicians but I think that's I think that's in Jesus coming to earth unless let's take some

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Published: Mon Mar 31 2014

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[u/superwinner]

Shit I hope so, it means all the Christians would disappear.