9560R Goes down

well folks today is going to be a fun day we've got an issue with the 9560 kind of uh somewhat of a lingering problem associated with the egr cooler that went on it about a month and a half ago i ended up getting the seeds done here uh last night and the girls they also started chisel plowing yesterday afternoon sarah was starting to have some issues with the 9560 and we realized that we had engine oil going into the coolant so jake is in the field right now and the field that the tractor is in is the field that we started using the noon spreader here a couple weeks ago and so the girls had that field all plowed tim is going to be heading over the lowboy however i've got to put the grain drill away quick so let's get some rain here this afternoon then we're going to step on over to where them guys are at they're only going to be about a mile away from where we have to put the grain drill away and we're going to help them get that loaded up and we'll get it back to the shop and we'll kind of explain a few procedures in which we're going to go through on trying to figure out where that engine oil is entering the coolant so jake has got some things figured out um we've just got to try a few things and hopefully it's not a head gasket but it's leaning that way so let's get some things done here and we'll join back up with you in a little while here well we're gonna get this loaded up jake is just leaving here now uh we'll discuss what kind of a plan he has in place for it once we get back to the shop here so we're just gonna get it driven on the trailer get it chained down and we'll get it back to the shop so [Music] all right we got this back here without any problems we'll go ahead and get it unloaded get it inside start draining the fluids out of it and get working out of here anyway so we've got to get our flags off of here and get the chains off tim's just getting detached here and then we'll back it off the trailer all right we've got this unloaded um i ended up draining and cooling out jake had another call to go on and he came back here a little while ago and i did a few things for a few hours too now um what had happened to this was sarah ended up breaking a bolt on the chisel plow and she had a code come up saying the [Music] coolant reservoir the coolant was low in the reservoir or i had a bad sending unit so garrett went over helped her get chisel plow going i said well take some coolant with it he checked it and it was all frothy i'll show you a picture of what that looked like up in that reservoir he said it had white oily stuff up in there i said well there might be a little bit of residue left over from when we changed this egr cooler but it was a lot more than that so i had him check the engine oil and it was down on oil and we realized that engine oil was going into the coolant however there was not coolant going into the engine oil so this was about 6 30 last night got a hold of jake here and he did some research now what would that be detect you got to hold it put a detach case out on or just looked at notes just looked at um [Applause] warranty reports so that's the beauty with uh working with deer they've got an inner network of history of problems with this stuff and i'll let jake kind of describe what we're thinking or what he's thinking is going on here i'm thinking there's two head bolts down in here and they have some kind of a sealant on them and it runs into an oil jacket and they can push pressurized oil into the cooling reservoir and everything indicates that's what it is right now because there's there's no coolant in the base we drain that petcock on the uh on the side of the awkward cooler you think there'd be some kind of oil right there and that's clean so this is kind of the only logical explanation so that's what we're hoping we're hoping it's just gonna be some sealant in these there's two particular head bolts and once he gets more of this tore apart we'll show you what that looks like um it is something that as a pip and they're paying a a portion of this a good portion of this um with the hours on this i think it's close to 85 percent of parts and labor if it was under 5 000 hours they would take care of the whole bill so that's deer that is not a common problem i don't want to yeah so make people afraid of these if it's really not something we see but with this overheating a few times i could see it being probably that's the issue yeah so what we had done the oil coolers right here we drained we opened that up here last night they had fresh cooling on it you know in it and then we also drained a little bit of oil out of the base uh last night and that looked like it did not have no coolant and then this morning jake got to it and it had fresh oil in the base there was no coolant present so that was a a pretty strong indication that we don't have any head gasket issues so we're going to keep at it here and we'll join back up with you once we know a little more so it's that bolt there yeah and then that one one between five and six back there let me get a three-quarter socket and extension i'm sure it's pretty tight okay let me grab one yeah i got one right over there i'll grab it look at the old light right in business there huh oh he gets a better footing here you don't want to go off on that [Applause] [Applause] that wet on there yeah that's awful tight yeah [Music] somebody was commenting on some engine they worked on the torch setting was a six foot long pry bar or six foot long breaker bar with two men yeah that was the torque setting this one might be pretty close okay now it's going yeah finger loose you wouldn't think anything to be able to escape that [Music] it's got a lot of thread in it huh i really want to clear that though okay we'll have to take this rocker off the whole shaft [Music] now what are you using for kind of panel let me tell everybody this your actual timing pin here yeah this is the one for the cam and it's got two different settings you got this is this one's a little wider for number one top dead center and it goes down in here and then the other one is like one millimeter smaller and that's for the other injectors to set the valves and then the other side you got this you got the timing pin for the crankshaft that's what you're doing at two different spots you know number one and number six top dead all right so he's gonna get this rocker shaft all these rocker shaft bolts out and then he'll have to you have to take that all the way out or can you just slide it to the side a little bit we could probably shove it over here we just loosen it we still got to take our valve bridges off so we don't lose them all you did is just loosen up the rocker shaft assembly there and that bolt came right out and then that bolt has got a little different shoulder up top and that that's what they must be talking about as far as running the sealant on there i don't know exactly where they put the sealant on the new bolts but the new bolts are marked they're blue and they got a they got a dot in the middle of them so you know if they've been changed or not but you could see well i don't know if it's going to show it on camera but on my side i can see that oil journal can you yeah i could see it it's towards you oh right at the top yeah right at the top i don't know if the camera's gonna show it but if you look great on that far side i don't know i can't tell from the camera but there isn't one on your side um or is there one there's one right there too yep well hopefully that's the culprit but that's well that can't be oil that must be coolant because there'd be oil running in the top there's a there's an oil jacket in there somewhere and that's what [Music] i'll look it up again and see exactly what they're saying with it but it's this bolt in that bolt yeah not a common problem because i've never done one yeah okay another culprit that could be leading to our oil contamination could be the oil cooler so we're to make a manifold up bolt that cooler to it and we're going to test it to see if it's not leaking through from the oil side to the coolant side which that's got a lot of frothy crap in it yeah so we're gonna go ahead and start building them plate to go on there to test the oil cooler with good milk all right what he has here is he has the oil cooler off and we just got done making this plate and the plate's going to bolt to the oil cooler we're going to charge it with air on one side dump it in this pail of water here and if air bubbles come out the coolant side then that means we have a bad oil cooler we won't know if the bolts work until we get it all back together so this was one of the things that it was advised to check and this was the procedure they said to go through to check it so if anybody wants their oil cooler check jake is gonna have a plate that he's got to carry right in his truck from now on [Laughter] uh probably works on the 13-5 though but that cooler might get used on it looks just the same it might be similar all you need is a bolt pattern well i guess you need the four journals to the four uh little forks to line up too so providing i drilled the holes right which we you eyeballed it and that's pretty close we might just set the ream it a little bit a couple holes yeah all right so we've got this all bolted together we're just gonna hit it with some air and our weld is leaking a little bit here you see anything on that hole this whole shop there you got it right here yeah yeah it's regular there there you can hook this up to see if you get it yeah because it goes so far and then it just rolls over [Music] [Music] so we couldn't see it leaking on the bench but once we put it down in the hall you could see you see the bubbles right there coming out of we do have uh this is just not welded good enough up in there we could put another pass but we don't want to screw up that gasket tell us what we need to know [Music] but yeah good well we got a new oil cooler coming because that was something he wanted we just wanted to order it and get it here anyways we didn't want to do the one thing and then find out it's another or put the oil cooler on and find that it's a a head bolt or something so we'll come back at you in the morning here once we get the parts it's friday so the parts are coming in at 10 30 11 o'clock or something so but well we'll join back up with everybody tomorrow all right jake has brought a pile of parts here and we've been working on this and i missed the bolt that missed videoing the bolt that he put in but we got new oil cooler on here and he ended up putting the new head bolts in and right now he's just adjusting the veils and everything in the rack there and he's close to getting this part of it all buttoned back up we'll kind of show you what the old bolts look like these are the old ones they've got a little bit of a shoulder here to them and the new ones which i neglected to turn the camera on in time had a rubber big o-ring right here that seated itself down inside the engine there's a little bit of a picture on his computer here and you could see that rubber um part on that bolt and then of course the top of the bolt it's got a blue heavy ring on there with like a little bit of a dimple in there and the reason why they've done that they've done that so that if you take this apart you know whether or not it's got the right bolt in there that rubber piece there almost looks like a piece of heavy duty loom or something that that's about how wide it is so he's got some time up in there to spend on that stuff to get the rack all done we've got some new gaskets then we can put the cover back on then we've got to kind of douche this out if you will to get the oily residue crap out of there we're just going to use some dawn dish detergent some water and kind of flush that out and then we'll put some fresh coolant in it we've got some fresh engine oil to go in there as well all right so jake has the overhead done he's got the valve cover back on there now we're replacing the radiator hoses i've got the uh water pump or not the water pump the thermostat housing is off and here is the bottom tube the radiator right here and that is full of white milky crap now i just took this thermostat housing off and these thermostats have a heavy like rubber part to them here and the rubber is all deteriorated just from the mixture of the engine oil being in with the coolant this is all ripped up here so we're going to pluck these out of there and then what we have to do is we have to put this back together without any thermostats in there and flush the whole system out and then drain everything pull the thermostat housing back off put thermostats in and put it all back together here [Music] all right we've got it full of soapy water this is the first that we have started it and we're gonna let it run for about 10-15 minutes and um hopefully it gets up to operating temperature and we can dump the fluid out of it so [Music] this is what we drained out of the radiator oil and coolant mixed together all right we showed you these thermostats earlier from what we pulled out and here is the new one all that rubber had been eaten and then it was this has all been advised to change all this stuff per deer so they've seen this stuff happen before and if you never took this apart you'd never know what that looked like and then where does this stuff go that's in the oil filter you know hopefully or no it wouldn't be any uh that's in yeah so we're gonna be able to set this thermostat housing back on there it is saturday night and it is quarter after eight so we're gonna get this on there we've got the oil drained and we've got to get cool and oil back in yet [Music] all right so we've got this all completely back together now we ended up throwing in some water through it a couple times to get it washed out and then we rinsed it out drained the engine oil out of it you can see the oil on the floor here i spilled some and we put fresh coolant in it along with fresh oil so it is just about quarter after nine right now on a saturday night jake's gonna be rolling out out of here in a little bit we're just gonna let it run for a while make sure we don't have any leaks ended up making a plate that sits over the top of the oil cooler here we just bolted that down and we're able to check the oil cooler to put we put air pressure against it and then we've seen some air bubbles coming out of that you've seen that earlier and that led us to believe that the oil cooler had had a crack in it somewhere as well so this bracket here i ended up painting it up and jake's going to throw this in his service truck well the 9560 lives again i hope right [Laughter] yeah well thanks a lot jake i appreciate it it wasn't for this guy he wouldn't have been able to we wouldn't have been able to get this thing going we did some quick research and figured out there was them two bolts because i would have said well needs a head gasket you know and we want to change some bolts too yeah and you would never know now this tractor before we bought it at some point in time had had a head gasket replaced on it and that's somewhat common to have them replaced and we don't know now if maybe that's all that was wrong with it then and judging by the looks of those thermostats i'm hoping they would have changed the thermostats it's just hard to believe with just a couple days of running it i can't believe that just deteriorate them like that but um it is what it is but john deere wanted us to change the radiator hoses the thermostats um just because of the oil contamination of the rubber pieces so well that's gonna do it folks we're gonna let jake get out of here 9 30 on a saturday night keep saying out of trouble dedicated john deere employee right here well thanks for watching folks and we'll get this in the field here in the next couple days we're supposed to get a we're supposed to get a rainstorm here tomorrow and we're kind of hoping we do because it is dry out there so that's gonna do it folks thanks for watching and we'll catch you at the next video

Channel: Farming Fixing & Fabricating

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Length: 28min 30sec (1710 seconds)

Published: Mon Apr 12 2021