28 Grams of COKE A Day, Ibiza Prisons & The BRITS: DJ Brandon Block & Danny Gould

what year did Clockwork start Clockwork started in 93 but then we took Clockwork to I for in '94 we was just partying I had no outside view of what was going on we were just having fun and playing music and playing at the best clubs in the world the more success you had the more opportunity you had to spend more money cocaine is basically a definition of insanity CU you keep doing it and expecting different results from the start as soon as I did it I was addicted the last of the great IB for Summers that that's when that's when like the the beauty of it had gone all the you brought in it never got did most of it got up your Hooter so the amount of drugs I took right had a really detrimental effect on my mental health right it's stimulant and it really screws you up especially when tooking that much try to stab me how much gear could you get for in a day around 28 is about 28 what g a day yeah you are joking me blco Danny welcome back to the show Lads do much how are you mate very good mate very good to see you both it's funny this one we've had blo on by himself had Danny on by himself and now we're going to do a freeway free fre out lad this go there there is a lot of history in this room with the three of us with the promoting world the nightclub world the DJ world the festival world and everything we've been through let's roll all the way back how did you two first meet I tell you um Andy my partner he contacted blo um and said to him would you play for Clockwork and he came to play for us in January 93 was it was it V stano or no no no it was Paddock Paddock that's right grazing Road and um I was 20 old 93 I was 21 and is that when you first started your promoting world around then was it 93 okay yeah and where were you where were you based then what were you thinking at that time thinking well I want to get into the nightclub world no I wasn't Andy my partner said to me um do you want to do a party and I was ducking and diving in club land let's just say it like that Ling around and whatever and um and he said you want to do a party and I went no not really I'm not really up for it and then he went come on we'll do a party then we agreed to do it and from then on then I think it was like the thir I think it's the addiction maybe to do like going along that lines as soon as I start I was like oh I want to B I like this you know the Euphoria and the Flyers and the different venues DJs yeah for anyone listening out there right now we're talking back in mid 90s where the promoting world was all about Flyers posters magazines beginning it was '92 when we started flying for the event 92 two years out of out of 19989 well let's face it there was companies built on flying they were called The Flying Squad flying Squad came around about 97 about 97 maybe yeah but I'm saying that on the back of the the promoting yeah people made a good business about flying gigs because they becoming so prolific they was like every week obviously about 92 93 you pick your parties at the end of the week mind you we was out partying anyway so it does really matter we seven days a week yeah basically which is what's on cuz I'm open and when you and when and when you first started doing your first part you were 21 early 90s what made you what made you go yeah I want to get blockco and bought apart from obviously he was a face or face Andy knew about Brandon I don't know if he met him at The Milk Bar or someone someone that was going something was going on and he he just said to me said look look blocko like up there coming face on the scene like you just said and he say like want to get him involved and that was it and then he started and he's been this ever since yeah that's 30 years block and yeah and you know what I was very fortunate because the parties they started doing with the you know up with the best in London at that time Paddock and then there vill sfanos and basically to be part of that and I was I've pretty much on most of them from then on it was great and what was your world then he come and knocked on the door what were you doing around that time same as it I mean you know yeah i' play my music but I was partying I was you know out there just having fun and obviously I've been to I Bea um couple of years previous and we sort of started that Journey on a summertime type thing but I was still out there out all the time and throughout the week throughout the weekends so in winter time you were basing yourself in London think about summertime what was your F do you remember your first experience in IA what year I tell you my first experience it was 91 I went with Charlie Chester who's you may know or may not those you in cluband and um he made me take some acid out in in a record sleeve um first time night beefer but the the airport then was the size of a post poster stand so literally went through and we that was my first the funny thing about it is this is when Charlie arranged that 1990s like weekend of chilling the first film as such about I beefer at the time which was a cool one um and a man called Adam and Primal scream and and in we Terry Farley and all that the Rocky and Diesel and Paul oold all got flown out to do the party I went M with him on the the summer before the rec the reconnaissance mission to do the to the rec Reckoning how' that end up in a big mess and he goes uh and then he never took me out there was a DJ said I know you're a bit too way out there for us now what are you talking about no no you got I just watched it the video got released everyone else went out and I so I just said right I'll go me own then mate took me my pal baggie and we went out there and um that was it yeah I got the bug in 93 first time went I beefa got the massive bug thinking you know what this nightclub world this nightclub game they're doing it the best out there how can we bring that back to the UK was that the same feeling for you when you went out there Danny no um I just love him H not going our be was nothing to do with the start of clockwork what year did Clockwork start Clockwork started in 93 but then we took Clockwork to AR Bea in '94 okay and then our Bea was our Bea and then we brought that back at that time because then we had that experience of doing the parties there but we never we never introduced I beer into into into London before no basically if you don't mind I so I was me and Alex have been out and I we were doing well let tough it so we was uh we was faradise doing residencies very around the island and because we were the only act DJs living there we offered we got offered all the big clubs offered us a night this night this is why we end up partying all the time because we was working F on Tuesday Wednesday anyway so obviously I was doing clock workk back in England and I thought this works it's just ideal for and I spoke to us par said CLA you've got to get this slot out they're unbelievable smashing in London they absolutely kill it out here and they I sort of put them in touch they arranged everything they came out and that year yeah it just went from there to there it it was like it was like putting a match of petrol M and did it excite you from part is I beefer then I loved it I was 22 then 22 doing parties s paradu is my most favorite venue um because I'd gone out there in ' 89 and done the 90 91 992 then 93 I was going to go back again for the summer and then he said let's let's let's take Clockwork out there instead of going out for the summer and I was like I don't think we're big enough anyway we went out there had the meeting got the thing he said you can do the Wednesday and I was like wow I'm 22 Yeah doing P parad how did this happen with been like a year and a half do you know what I mean it just like wow explain to the listeners out there or people watching what ESP Paradise was like ESP Paradise was like one of the top venues and and in now even now you walk in it and you go oh my God it's like a Roman Coliseum in a club which most people some people do but I don't think none of the kids do know today that none of the clubs had roofs on them yeah in IB until n they made them at the end of in ' 89 they said this is your last season 1990 you've all got to have a roof on them and they put them all on and that's that is one I've only got two regret regrets missing the Raves of 89 yeah because I was too young and I W earned enough money and the second the second was going to an I be for nightclub with no roof on it yeah they're my only regrets yeah yeah yeah do you know what I mean Paradise was just like wow and what was the cap back then what was the capacity roughly back then do you remember capacity of West paradise's 1900 yeah like they they' never h that ever yeah uh what's their names o pal from leads oh Tony Annon yeah Tony Anon put um 2,100 something like that in 1995 and then 97 we put two and half and then 1998 every week we got it went up until in the middle the height of the Season we put 3,600 people a fair play double the capacity yeah fair play that's like having 300 squeeze vessel in the door frame squeeze them all in take half an hour to get across the club see way back and also for me I mean ESP Paradise was and I think you said this before the most beautiful yeah out of all the clubs because it wasn't you know nightclubs typical I mean I I was fortunate enough to see I need you with a roof off but parades again it wasn't you walk in it was was you'd think wow I'm in Paradise that's what it's called I'm in parad you know water parties and there was cushions around the dance flowers and then used to it was it was like he was walking into a a cocoon of of loveliness and uh beautiful Club wasn't it yeah incredible and like comparison to the other big clubs on the island like cou and coup's you know unique in its own way privilege amnia again another wonder they were all unique there's nothing around the world similar to these because they people I just don't think there was something about I be for which made these clubs yeah the way they were they were decorated in a way they were built in a certain way they were just you know it was so organic yeah they're special weren't they did you ever go to the uh the outdoor club called Festival Club you're talking about you know up in the deric one at the moment you go up into a oh no looks like the Coliseum the Coliseum Outdoors the ring where Bob M been up there it's incredible it's all con it's amaz you can feel the energy there's no one there it's der you walk in and you're like my God energy it's all been graffitied now and what a waste of space what a waste of space I'm surprised no one's grabbed that and go you know what let's Chuck a couple of mil or whatever it needs to turn it into party there was but imagine there like health and safety I mean back in the day we had we used to have parties in the in the quaries do you remember like the tribe and the Italians used do parties in the quaries and we'd climb the the we'd climb up the mountains on the side and have these parties which were you know down in little valleys MTV did a party in one of the cories there which my and Alex was on um you know did well just smashed everything really what was your what was your what was your involvement what was your involvement on in MTV well on myself but we just we present at that time myself and Alex I we were just uh we were as busy and we were asked to do an MTV tour which involved IA and then obviously MTV were big uh in in the music world weren't they so for them they were like the radio one weekend before it came to radio one weekend so they did like this big MTV Festival wi the Quarry which went right off I think 2,000 people which again back in them days was a lot of people not like now obv 2000 I think what in that I think they did yeah yeah more whatever no one would know but it was it was breaking all like records for people attend it cleared me out on the Wednesday that's what I know on the they were competing on Tuesday I think come Wednesday and we was dead was it yeah cleared it out was it so what was your journey blo your journey becoming a superstar DJ how did that how did that come about I don't know I don't think I don't think was there was there one point you went you know what this is a turning point I've actually I'm going to break the back of this and that no no no I don't I don't think I to be honest I don't think I ever thought I'd end up like that and I've never looked at it being as being like that I always did it because I I suppose it happened and I'm very grateful that it did happen in a way it wasn't it wasn't something I aspired to it was something that just happened so I don't I I think you know when people start going when I started getting off TV stuff and I was but don't for was still at my nut at most of the time until like 96 so actually a lot of the stuff that I suppose you would call fame or or or success came after that when I finally stopped you know doing all the gear yeah so at that time we were just partying and I think I'm not going to speak for him but I think you know those those first years up to 9 96 for me when I stopped but before that was just partying I had no outside view of what was going on we were just having fun and playing music and playing at the best clubs in the world playing in space you grafting you we didn't think it I wouldn't call it graft I would call it having fun cuz I never you never sat home and still at the same time yeah of course but I didn't know that then I wouldn't say I sit at the end and go oh is Count me money and say put that in the bank it was just like chisel we're yeah exactly never got the money straight over there as we know all the dough you brought in it never got most of it got be Hooter it didn't go brought in it was just allocated it was allocated dedicated before it came in I just F right can you send that there you'll send that over there and I'll just give me what comes in the middle and I'll get rid of it that's exactly what it was yeah yeah yeah yeah there was no income or outo no balance she so let's roll back a little bit here there must have been a year you're saying 93 you were going IB for 91 92 93 there must have been a year when you've gone me and Alex on the on the on the all the CDs we're on the biggest Club so there must have been a period probably around 9 probably actually you know probably on the back of clockwork starting in I beef is when it all we did CDs then we got like uh yeah probably after and then every see because what happen before that was as I was saying my and Alexs were the only people living on the island DJ staying there for the whole summer for like six seven months so do you the only you're the original Pioneers are staying there all summer probably I me obviously without without the Spanish DJ obvious I think so I obviously the resident people who in bars but we were like Freel Lance let's say so we were playing at space uh down to Alex and then obviously um CU on the back of space being the club that it was it was it was absolutely incredible and everyone went there literally that was the place to go throughout the whole week wherever you'd been everywhere everyone would get there on a Sunday and on the back of that we got offered all these other gigs for every other club on the island so you know from 902 991 92 we were working every single night has to do with Alan wman as well though was it well that was well but he then mad on Mondays but then you know I think Wednesdays Thursdays he done Amnesia he done coup done all of them might have been that well yeah I mean but so we were the we were the go-tos basically so how many nights out are you working grafting and partying every night every night literally I may be having a Saturday night off which you think was strange but no Saturday was but you probably need to have a sleep by then anyway yeah which we did generally Saturday was a [ __ ] day wasn't it Saturday was the major change over back in the day yeah you're right because people flew in and flew out so there Saturday wasn't a great day go never do a part never do a party on a Saturday but one year I went [ __ ] it do a Saturday and it was terrible Dan and what and tell me through your world you've been a promoter now for 30 years in 9293 when you started doing did you find that you were more warming to IB for or more warming to London throwing your parties um no I Lov it was it was separate I loved London and I loved ARA it was simply was that was it I loved I loved ARA I'd fell in love with ARA in 89 90 when I went to Amnesia um 91 92 blah blah blah and too but it was I beefa that made Clockwork yeah because you was talking about earlier on going out in London and you had you had you you go out on a Wednesday and there'd be a launch or an award or something wouldn't you and then Thursday night another thing there' be like launch and say then Friday started Saturday started Sunday you could end up somewhere else but um it wasn't until so we had a lot of London competition yeah and it wasn't until we went to our fre 94 and we came back and then people were coming from notam from leads from like Kent everybody started to it it made it more Nationwide in the UK CL tell me some of the clubs you have throwing parties in London that really sprink the mine you go you know what that was a banger that's one of my favorites oh the cross cross Palace when we' done that we did that we did our first ever IB for reunion in March 1995 at the cross yeah at the cross what was the cap there do you remember um I think it well now it's, 1400 14 to 16 I think most I don't know was about about 26 26 when I tell the new managers that now they what another 900 you're off your n it was it was rocking one of my best memories August 1998 me and Danny Newman own turnmills blah blah blah yeah um Danny from turnmills yeah and I'm sitting in the DJ Box I'd flown back from my beef for it I was literally here for like two days and I remember sitting in the DJ Box can't remember who was playing looking up and I swear to you the whole club was like rocking and I looked at him and he went yeah it was special that was a memory just like was that a turnmill no that was a Camden for Clockwork and then the next morning no sleep jump straight on a plane went back and as he said you went to space I couldn't miss space I daddy it I had to be back for space I was a bit gutted when space went and they brought out the the new one hi hi yeah I was totally I mean look I to be honest I have so many High's good mate to be fair as you go in if if you go in and you go fair enough you can see why the younger generation I absolutely love this but I don't know if we're getting older old stuff I went into high one I've only been in once I went in yeah last year I think it was actually last um Amnesia that night at the Clockwork not the last year before it was so crowded mate I couldn't walk and there was they used a toilet the old space toilet which used to be on the left I got confused DJ in there yeah it's called The Wild room or whatever but it's it's it was the old toilet and the actual if you push the doors they're like concealed you're in the BG and you're on the dance floor so I into one trying to get out and I didn't yeah honestly I was like walking down the wall I was like in the back of the door I'm telling you and I thought God this is just I can't I can't I had to hold my hands up to get out of the place but I mean space was space it's very it it was a unique that's the word I was going to say unique yeah it was just Unique Look it was the first ever after hour which was opened during the day around the world those parties didn't exist they weren't something they weren't a thing so what what Alex and James created was an idea which worked and then and there's a loop in the license right back in back in them days it was called the cafe cono license me you could have food dancing and you could basically stay open you had to shut for an hour and this is why you could stay open at any time because they they no one knew that you'd have to shut for an hour you only shut for an hour everyone probably thought well we'll shut at 600 in the morning open again at night whereas space sh in the morning inside in the morning had an hour gap where me and myself Alex were on the Terrace and then you'd open again because there was a loop in this license so you could open in the morning and pepe said well I'm going to open in the morning with Alex and I said is our party and then obviously everyone used to come all the promoters used to come and it was the pilgrimage every Sunday morning everybody went didn't everyone everybody went and what was your movements Denny what were your movements after that 94 95 how did you start growing your brand over the last 30 years um in the 9 was just it was it was the old way you think when clork started in 93 there was no internet yeah there was no internet you told that to kids now they got know what I mean there was no social media it was posters and flyers and word of mouth and magazines and um a big orange van yeah a big orange van in 97 and 98 yeah but um it was just hard work walking up and down the beaches and and doing it prop it was prop but we we didn't know any different though so it was okay CU you're thinking the only way you could do of course if you if you know you're talking to them getting Fliers and chatting a people you know they could be P paying people on the door so it's worth theft Mark that's exactly how it is I think it's I think it's going to come back round again I think so well it's the personal touch this is the thing you're right and I think you know there's a lot of people who say vinyl say vinyl vinyl is come back because there as an emotional attachment to it the whole thing about you know uh just explain vinyl the listeners and listeners might not know what vinyl is it's a black round thing like a frisbe 12 12 Ines wide that'ss up the chief it's it's got hole in the middle it's got these Groove things it goes about 45 for hour on it it so basically vinyl is a form of U music is made from Vinyl um it's it's the way it was an analog way that music was played on Deck you've all seen sl1200 is the original uh Technic deex and that's how it did but obviously more recently it's moved from maral to digital which started with CDs Now moved onto a memory stick because you can have a wave form on your mp3 mp3 files let's say and play them through the the New Media which is available so anyway vinyl's making the comeback massively which is uh it's a deeper sand than it it's a richer sand that crackle get a crackle stuff kids won't get that though see we grew up with that and a crackle I think you associate that with good music yeah do you get what I mean well it's rare as well because you have to search high and low for like you'd hear one you a DJ like so for instance I'm just going to use Al Rao for an example and the Bic sound say he would play uh way out indie type music with in the middle of a say a disco e type set right and and you go oh my God you get it because you're in that moment and there's a reason for that he had an amazing talent to say right because like if you go back to your 80s growing up you're not just got a list of disco records you've got a list of 80s pop 80s Electro Human League I mean just for you know pop pop bands who all made records a and you listen to now you go I love it I love it and even back then you could you'd have a secret guilty BL do you like the Human League no no no Sister Sledge all day underground Jazz fun man but we all got a deep rooted you know affinity and you know emotional attachment to that music um so that viny you search high and low for that V name and the name yeah because usually what you have is a record sleeve all the DJs used to had a habit of they had this one um what would you call it just a practice at the time a habit of covering the record labels with with white labels so you can't see the name cuz they want to keep it and write [ __ ] off on it so everyone go oh I love this what is it and they go and you go Shazam thing that Shazam there's a tune on bang straight on your phone it's like Spotify a it how did it change how did it change for you guys with that whole music especially yourself producing music making music how did that world change that you your money Chang that you could create music and all of a sudden it's gone on Spotify and people aren't earning as much and they get a 0.03 P per track or whatever I mean for me personally and I think you know the whole thing about technology is it's it's a slower learning process I don't dive in like I used to when I was a kid and be a to learn like you lot to you have to learn how to use this stuff you get an idea of it but you know the the I think the most tedious thing was burning all my vinyl on the CD which you had to do one by one and you did that at the time but now what's happened is as I say you can get your playlist you you can get your your music library the good thing about it is you can tap into you can get a a hard drive that holds 5,000 Tunes so you can go to a gig and you go right I know what's going to work now and I know where it is it's here whereas if you go your vinyl go you've got that many vinyl you go search you find it but if I wish i' bought that one cuz you used to each week remember you go for your vinyl and dig out I'll take that one I'll take that one I take that one take one because you can only take that many and then you think [ __ ] you was digging hard though Wen you yeah yeah I was playing I mean playing what's your take what's your take on Brandon when you were looking at the age of 21 growing up through those years with him how' you explain Brandon back in the day you can't no well he was he was someone that we because we' just come around he was someone that I aspired to be like yeah cuz it was like blo this Nutter who just made it on the thing and I'm like well I I knew I was and I was like I want to be like that do you know what I mean and that was it so then and then and I be was like these guys are and then that was in our beef and I was coming out I was like no I want to take their Crown I aspired to be like that is as simple as it is and then I said to people in not in um in 98 uh Ministry mag done top 10 NS of decade and him and Brandon come first I was so I was upset I I was pissed off right I was pissed off cuz I was like I know I'm [ __ ] mad I know I'm mad why why is nothing happening I Cuts all over me mad was smashing me teeth and car crashes I was like I Des I'd gone i' I would the next year I'd actually gone I deserve this started seeing [ __ ] ghosts and all this [ __ ] and I was like I deserve it next year I got Kan in the S I was like [ __ ] you like what an Accolade I was like oh my God and my mate rang me up from England he went all right went yeah he went I went yeah he went sure I went yeah he went you all over the magazines like [ __ ] top Kaner here doing this smashing things up car crashes I went mate this is the B that was it do you know what I mean what was your lifestyle Danny would you say when you found I beefer did it just speed everything up with the drugs and booze and everything went with it um the more success you had the more opportunity you had to spend more money so you know if you I've always said this if I had have B carried on in construction or something like that earning three 400 pound a week I would have only had a limit to how much I bought unless I ticked it yeah when you started earning more money then you moved into like the half oun oun of gear you was drinking every night and was like bottles of champag and you know um and then just moved on it it allowed your tolerance to increase greatly the more money you had so you were out there roughly 91 onwards what what year do you reckon you hit a point where you your peak of partying me personally yeah you personally um I think Clockwork we had the best year of our lives in 98 99 I always described as the last of the great IB for Summers for me like a movie [ __ ] car crashes as I said fighting with midgets arrested this at the other great parties stuff we don't talk about and in 2000 it went down yeah and that that's when that's when like the the beauty of it had gone I carried on partying but that's when the beauty had gone the success did you get yourself in any trouble out there in I beef with L Bill only um once for the car crash what happened there I um I arrived in 99 and it was it was literally as soon as you landed it was it was that it was that I'm going I'm going B drink on the plane drink on the plane I've been on a plane with him Graham gold and some other people which I never did and they was all in the toilets coming in out the toilets on the back of the plane once and I was like oh my God what's going on here even I wouldn't do that on a plane all kind sitting like so I arrived in 99 and as soon as I I arrived it was like and then someone picked me up I remember going sanan and it was just like not to 100 yeah so I remember grabbing loads of gear I had like a pocket full of gear like sick fers drinking thing and I was drinking deep vodka and I thought I'm going to go back to the villain and just get smashed I remember driving up this um as Paradise little road that used to be outside it was a two-way Road and then people diving out the way knocking them with a wing mirror and from ESP Paradise to where I had the car crash I don't remember so I went into blackout yeah and so I drove an automatic pilot for about six or seven miles and then it was on a on the Mountain Road was only literally about two miles away from where were was 100 foot drop one side and I'd veered on to the left in blackout all I can remember is the loudest crunch I can still hear it in my head today I can't around where you are now the guy was there in his van the concer tinged in he was out cold smoke uh I broke my teeth um dislocated my jaw my hands went through the wind screen I busted the steering wheel buckled it with my chest and done all my chest in the dashboard was in my legs and then we're coming around and the policeman was like blow into this and I had to blow into a breath eyes this is what I love about the Spanish place you just you just don't mess about them and he went um BL says went like that I'd split my liping off I got like that and he thought I was joking so give me a clump about four times he made me do it four times he knocked me out in a car crash then he decided to put he went see a lump in my pocket I had a bottle of vodka on the on the chair as well he's lent in he's gone go do what is this in Spanish and I went ah and he just done me again six times yeah that time I got nicked that is it that's the only time I got nicked the other time they wanted to Nick me when they found loads of stuff in my bedroom went to the police station to hold me hands up cuz we'd been burgled night before and um there was no one in the PlayStation there was no one there I was going hello no one there like hello well they nicked you took you to the station no no we got burgled yeah I was in this Paradise With A Clockwork with Jeremy and blah blah blah I end up taking him back to Pikes in the back of the van and driving at about 50 m hour and it just slinging him all over the place and um when I went back in the morning like had no sleeping and he went because we got burgled the police came to assess it they went into my bedroom and they went yeah I had a poor thing like that and behind it was like a dust from about a thousand pills sitting about that deep we just went home went like that and they went who it any it's not mine it's not mine it's Danny's bedroom he went I want to speak to this Danny so I went to hold up and say I didn't put it there the burglars must have put there and the next week at es parades they I didn't see him near ESP parades his cars turned up it's like thousand people in the queue and I'm talking on the door and these two polies come out and the window went down and they just looking at me like that and I went oh [ __ ] the security guard Paco who used to run the door oh I absolutely adore I love that man and he went give me a minute and the thing is about Spanish people they're all cousins as they drove off and it just looked at me like that and he went don't worry about it so sorted and I went [ __ ] that was it that was it never got caught amazing blocko uh how long we got how long we got how many how many how many times you been nicked in IA I'm not I no no you know what this or how many times you nearly been nicked once once it's quite I say we used to we we'd had this altercation with one of our higher cars right I think the people in it and people driving it I we were driving it we had an altercation we did a basil 40 on the main road between s so was all of a sudden we all had wigs on we'd been out for the night we all had wigs on and we we decided we we'd have a thrashing of the car with all the Palm leaves so there's six of us around this car on the in broad daylight about 12 midday on the road between s and uh and I town frash in this car right and so the Guardia turned up who who knew us because back in the day they knew everyone and they said right Brandon in the van I went no problem my other mate went don't get in the van I went they're all right they're pals come on went no no come on so he got in the car we ended up in the station and they said get your records out I had to take my records cuz they thought we're going to get him now and they surged every single bit of vinyl they took every bit out two record boxes going to find some gear yeah there's none there they went I went I said get in the sell so I said it's all me and I I was on I was on the floor and he's going beg me please Nick me it was me I did everything wrong and he said Bron [ __ ] get out when kick me out the ass and then we on the way out we there they had some Dobermans which were um they guard dogs but we was we was playing and get out F all the guard dogs were licking as Eric so that was my first I actually went to court in Spain someone denounced me right denounced it's like a sum yeah a summons like an you sorry if you can um you can say to someone I say nightclubs get denounced when they get play music too loud or you know you could it's like a yeah so um this guy I don't if you remember outside this paradise actually um we we got into a fight and uh I say fight it was a running battle it was all drunk so you know was falling all over the place tripping up and hitting our heads on so some try to stab me yeah yeah yeah and um he he then denounced me right he's trying to stab in and denounce me I mean I had to go to court on this it turns out he was a you know he was a homeless person and but he was they known to the court but so I got arrested and I got taken to court and fact Ariel remember Ariel Ariel used to be the Domin at space and he actually went out with Sonic for times great guy remember Ariel Ariel did the same thing for me advocated for me at the court and actually so I was in Spanish court and back in the day I was like wow what do you want do in here you know type thing and and even scarier when you can't speak the langage yeah absolutely and like look God I you know touch with but I've never really done anything wrong in I be you say you a done anything wrong what nutty moments have you done in your life in I beef for like climbing from balcony to balcony it that came of the territory didn't it the madness the norm yeah I've jumped over can you be arrested for madness in the sense of doing forget the arrested bit but let's go into the madness bit stuff when you're off your off your nut and you've done stuff I climbed I climbed to three stories up the the apartment block of St on the outside I scaled three balconies to knock on my M the window CU me pal M pal was not answering the door to me cuz he didn't want to let me in so I had to climb up the out to try and get through the balcony RIS RIS I've jumped over one wall with me and Alex that a tear up I've jumped over one wall I mean there was a big car park they built a ditch 35 foot ditch where the Cafe de Mar was remember the old car park out the side where they just started to excavate because they were going to build what's now the cafe my new bit but it was a hole it used to be a car park and like one week we went back and week it's not it's a big 30 foot Gap so I've dived over the wall and literally managed there was a ledge and they looked over the top like that I'm sitting on this ledge I've literally jumped over I was for whatever reason risks and ended up sitting on the ledge so and I jump between two buildings two apartment blocks on the space uh on pla de Bosa and it was about six foot apart on you jumped between two buildings and ended up with the doing that and I had to hold on before they could run from the building it was all in to come around the other one to pull me up cuz I'd gone too far I couldn't jump across to get it like it was just a number what about you then what what sort of risks have you had at in I well listen let me first say this is not stuff you try at home influence of many many do not do this do not do this by any means but yeah Dan what about you mate um I don't know over it was just a just a normal so a normal night we I've told hold on I love that this is just a normal but I hear you what it was is you got bored with doing normal not normal mad stuff so it was like what else are we going to do so what did this um in 97 we got we was doing the Roma parties where we did this big possession through the streets um oh called yeah remember security guard took us to a butcher at the back of sanan and he went through and all that and then he went through to the back bit and he had these illegal fireworks and these IL legal fireworks about that big we call the governors about that big they blow and anything they probably but blow all in this table were so they were explosives the Gea must have made them himself if we used to go saaka nice restaurant [ __ ] this when you walk to side like prop like um like SWAT Squad yeah like that boom see the waiters just come out and go [ __ ] girl oh smoke people in the dinner people in the or mambos I got banned from mambos they said that's it no more [ __ ] in the b g has come out six of them all the waiters were both bat that went me he went for [ __ ] sake ay come out went that's it banned for life I have to sit on the wall so he Bann you from mambos he Banned Me from mambos for Life yeah I had to sit on the wall opposite while everyone else was inside and then people bring me out a drink don't bring him drinks like don't feed the M we didn't have the keys remember being drunk one night didn't have no keys and these boys winding me up so I remember like out and then we got to the The Villa so ain't got no Cas so I punched the bar from wind fruit and I sliced my arm down here I cut it and if it have gone that way I'd have been dead woke up in bed woke up off my head and I was like turns out they' been blowing Gear Up me nose while I was asleep I went downstairs everyone's on it and I went where's me bag this is my first night in I be up where's my bag they went it's in the pool it's like 4:00 in the morning the pool's all still my bag's in the bottom of the pool oh you [ __ ] dived in and got it bring my bag out bags full of rocks all my clothes are hanging in the wardrobe I'm dripping wet so they're all sitting in living room like one grand a gear between about eight of them I you're so out of old they [ __ ] teacher mean then I'm 4:00 in the morning ripping wet all this Blood over me arm cut yeah and then I'm like are we going to get any more they got going to bed now yeah how would you expl how do you think your M your mates would explain your behavior at your Peak um you got you got a multitude you got annoying crazy um it it was it was drink I was I was outlandish mad anyway but you put as soon as I had a drink it just went like that yeah it was like you turned it on just like bsh do you know what I mean or a line of gear or something like BOS it magnified whatever now people probably look at as mental health issues it just set it on fire literally set it on fire he's a nice guy that Danny go but he can turn into an [ __ ] when he's drink I'm sure you probably had that where you know you say the wrong thing or you're horrible to people or or just like you turn around and like you like you smashing something or blowing something up or something it just I had no control over it just went ah where where did you think that come from has that come from anything from being a child or B growing up did you have like a normal nice mom and dad nice calm family my mom was an alcoholic we lived in like night on poverty do you know what I mean it was um yeah where the food's going to come from where's your mom she ain't come home getting drunk at 8 you know I was telling someone the other day my mom used to leave me and in our block of flats is where my mom wasn't one of them she got given a flat it was a two bedroom where we talking here chaf and then they used to send what in them days what they called like the ment loan they used to send the people from the ment loan to this block of flats it was uh three stories two on each s 12 BL 12 12 Flats um you had a lady called sandrew to cut herself and you hear her screaming in the night so then she'd be going in and out of Hospital recluse called John whose curtains you know like recluses where it was all black everything was black through dirt and whatever my mom used to leave me in a flat with this unback gazer downstairs and um the reclus John he'd wandered down in his slippers in his dressing gwn and she just leaving me in there all day long like listening to like charge the Light Brigade on headphones like this honestly so you know different world yeah different world and that's where you come from like the 70s and the 80s trying to explain what kidss are going through like now the 70s and the 80s fre it different different world yeah I hear you different world ont stre and well because it it wasn't you just didn't know about it did you because it wasn't out there you know those little pockets of I've never heard that before but that's quite um quite profound sort of growing up I've never known that mate but um it's true but made you Survivor see we we didn't have nothing right so my clothes are secondhand yeah if when you had food so like sometimes was um dry spaghetti if your mom weren't there and she was out and she was doing whatever she was doing for the day I'd eat dry spaghetti or if it was in the summer you go and eat apples or you Nick milk yeah do you know what I mean so it made me a Survivor it made you creative that's the difference I don't look at it and go all poor me never ever ever done that that made me a Survivor if I want to drink something and there a bottle of orange juice cuz the Posh people down the road have used to get a delivery in the morning I'm [ __ ] having that you know what I mean I'm having that or you go through the allotments and Nick stuff like that or then you went into like fever I used to go into like supermarket and all that and steal stuff and [ __ ] like seen out of a train spotting like the beginning where you Street fat gazer sweating [ __ ] off and all the pens the ni all the pens and F all the marker pens in the air [ __ ] off I went into you brought back a memory I went into a 7-Eleven and it's like that addiction so I us to go in there and another couple of yys and then F get away it and I come back I get 10 and I thought [ __ ] know so I went in there once and I just I remember like putting a finger around my arms like that and I was just going in there and I was going along I was getting all star bars and Kit Kat it was [ __ ] for got this as a go outside excuse me and I went just CU it was was just falling like a fountain on the floor the G went I remember running across the road busy road and as I run across as I run that way car miss me that way as run away car miss me that within a second you talking about how we got away with things I think sometimes they are Guardian Angels that's another story I ran I didn't stop and I didn't go back everyn at 7eleven again taught me from that moment on I I didn't do it yeah didn't do it after that blocko yourself mate growing up what was it like your life like growing up as a kid uh I've hearing Danny's story then I mean my M mine wasn't similar in that way um but I mean I look my my parents divorced at a time for me when which obviously was my traumatic I mean I it traumatic whatever it was how old were you roughly 10 11 um but I mean I was I was I was bullied at school and and and so I I made my n to protect myself to make sure that I didn't get bullied anymore so I became like the cool kids basically I was fortunate enough to to get taken by the cool kids because I I I was I love my music so I always love my music so I got taken into the lunchtime Disco we were allowed lunchtime discos back then so it was like in a a house room um and you know we I'd learn how to dance in there with all the all the big Lads and you know like do Robotics and and jazz dancing so that was my protector let's say and and moving forward obviously we found a bottle of Thunderbird at the age of 13 and thought I have some of this and next a bottle of Thunderbird and there was no looking back and then carried on then [ __ ] at like 12 or because M obviously mom and dad are are arguing all the time and it wasn't long till they separated but so that was my sort of rebellion as such um I mean I've said this the other day someone else with I don't remember a lot about my childhood as such I lo do you remember lo I don't remember I remember my first day at primary school when I was four no 47 years I think I think I think but I can't remember your mind sometimes your mind sometimes blacks out somebody nice to meet you py [ __ ] H so Danny here quick Dan was talking about getting banned from clubs and being mad things did you get banned from clubs and stuff yeah of course I got banned from a couple from you know in between sets I was caught in a toilet a couple times and asked to leave by the bouncers with my records playing I said I've got to really know you're out and that was it is that right yeah where abouts that was up in uh Burnley I think was it yeah got thrown out between sets and what about your lifestyle in ier how how did that effect how you are when you gave up drugs and drink and stuff when you look back now to explain to The Listener or the viewer this was my lifestyle for that period of Time how would you explain that Christ I mean look I was talking to Danny about this earlier so the amount of drugs I took right had a really detrimental effect on my mental health right it's stimulant and it really screwed you up especially when tooking that much I was I was saying to him I was functioning I was a functioning cocaine addict right which meant I wasn't doing all this when I was it was it was Norm so I could look I wouldn't necessarily look and I'd had more gear than you could ever probably imagine having in a day and I was all right with it so I was used to it but um what it did leave me with was like a a war in my head like so when I stopped it was like a bomb going off all the time and the anxiety and the fear was UN I can't even describe how bad it was I was sitting in the room like this for days on end waiting for these these these panic attacks to go away and then eventually I'd have like one day and we' go I'd have a deep breath it'd leave me and then literally like the day later boom full on again and i' be like out for another and it was only it wasn't like I had a light bulb go yeah I'm out I'm free it was never like that it was like slow painful process of like like so maybe I'd get two days in a week's time then I maybe get three days in two weeks you know what I mean so slowly you get your mind comes back um so I I mean it was I would never Rec I would never suggest that anyone goes down that road and if you if you I'm going to say this now if you ever find yourself in that trouble reach out and get some help because it's not a good place um but my but I I look it wasn't about it was never about I don't think for me it the drugs were U what it incidental they were there because they they heightened the moment didn't mean I didn't love my music I always love my music and I'd always been passionate about my music so when when you first go into detox or something they say right you've got to look at your life it's not like you go what you got to look at my life what do you mean well you you've got to change your life you know you can't just carry on like this I going well I want to carry it like this I just won't take drugs it's not really going to work like that so all this information comes and you go really and you got to look at here and you got to look at here and you got all these other stuff that you just think is going to be all right once you stop that drugs but it's not it's not at all it's the beginning of your your sort of your life Journey but I wasn't going to stop play music I wasn't going to stop going to my Bea cuz you know I loved it and I knew that deep under all this fear and anxiety I could still do what I did and I just went back and I didn't drink or take drunk how much gear could you get through in a day at your Peak do you think well the last lot i' use it was approximately I say this I'm just thinking about my routine cuz I remember I used to go and pick up certain amounts at certain times a day and that was my whole routine around 28 is it's it's a lot yeah yeah it's a lot 28 yeah about yeah I'm just thinking about what GRS a day yeah you are joking me no that was that was when my last bit of my before I went into the clinic and it was ter it was horrendous it was an exist 28 G of C Jesus I'm averaging out mate wasn't like if that's an average I want to know what the most list it was three and a half for breakfast three and a half for midm morning BR you think the tolerances are going up yeah that's my you're stretching your toleran my constition yeah he stretched it and then mine was huge my my Constitution was like mental all and like so when I first when I went into the clinic and I stopped and I came out I I I I drunk I carried on drinking and I drunk for three days without I could do that because my tolerance was down you know I could and my Constitution and then my my psychiatrist who was my mentor to this day and he's like the head psychiatrist at the prior um he was you know the most prolific Authority on cocaine addiction back in them days and he's still my mentor to this day and I love him the bits he saved my life but name Dr William Shanahan big shout out to him big shout out to to bill um I still keep in touch with him and he refers people to me now cuz he's you know he says I want you to can you help this person blah blah blah but he said you've started substituting it's cool so started taking alcohol to replace the cocaine but drinking more but not did not alcol give you the trigger to say well I want to have a l no it didn't work like that for me I it does create another drug in your brain called Coco ayene which which is why people say when you're in the pub you go call it on let have a p call it on although it may did I my decision I was say d my decision was so powerful about whether I was going to continue doing this or not it just it sort of broke the it broke the nor pathway if that makes sense which was powerful to do that back then it broke that one severed it and and I'm very grateful to is that what year what year were we talking when you severed it 96 96 so what year you've been banging gear for from 88 I started and I don't think there was I think from night so let's say from 1989 there wasn't one day I had missed having drugs in 8 years wow or seven years not one day wow I got on the mic ones at Camden on New Year's Eve and I went bl's giving up the gear 96 no no one said nothing CU they like I'm like look G up the gear what like [ __ ] off so proud yeah and then all of a sudden yeah I give him that yeah s yourself out give up again tomorrow go son Fu but honestly people just didn't believe it it wasn't something that was not in the realm of thinking the first one yeah so if you so so you're leading the way as a Pioneer going you know I've smashed it harder than anyone else you're not far behind him no I'm years behind him years behind him it's probably not far but that but you get the 96 is that the last time you had a line of cocaine I had a what's known as a Slip and a month later because look people who know will know that you have triggers things that trigger you I was six months so I had um I went to a gig and I look i' stopped and I was still in I was still my fingers felt like it was horrible so give me give me an example when you stopped you what I'm done I'm stopped and you said you had a month off what was that feeling like every single day you clutching thinking I need to go and get some more what was the feeling no i' forgotten to get but what I was dealing with now is my personal anxiety fear yeah but so so powerful that I was sitting in the corner like this and that's what I was doing I was I went to 12ep uh recovery for like three months I did the the prescribed did you do the whole 12 steps you finish it no no no because for me at that time my mind was so I couldn't listen to anything else I couldn't hear anything else I couldn't even listen to what people were saying CU I was so consumed in this pain it was like I just need to be in a room going through this stuff which I did and I sat on my own for a lot of time in this like this and it took me months and months and months and you know I'm grateful for my first experience of that but I took a different journey and that's all it was and you know I know to this day and I advocate for it because I I teach people that's where they got to go because it's it's there it's free and everyone's on the same journey and I they understand but you know back then anyway look there was no information 96 there was nothing you can't go on the sh hey I've stopped drugs you shouldn't be [ __ ] taking them anyway you it's like it's true is it yeah so so there was no information about how you stop there was no information about how you stay stop what was the point when you said I have to stop why was that there must have been a trigger point you know what again I was saying again I was really ill physically ill I had TB I had hepatitis I was I was dying anyway literally I was you were dying around that what how old were you roughly in 96 was 9696 uh two years old you so about what 20 29 okay and you've caned it from 21 to 29 yeah till 29 so 29 was I think 29 can't have been 29 in 96 I was 20 24 in ' 96 so what must 26 you was about 26 years old so 18 to 26 you caned it yeah okay so 26 and what drugs you can it can't have just been all cocaine everything mix up more XC acid cocaine uh speed occasionally boozing all the normal stuff I didn't smoke a lot of weed because it it had the adverse effect on me I wouldn't I wasn't a down okay I couldn't do that that actually gave me more paranoid than everything else I took so I thankful in one way that there was one drug I didn't get you know involved what about you Dan what was your what was your addiction like how many years was it until you hit a point go I've got to stop um as I said earlier on I got drunk when I was eight in the school parties then I started doing the um the aerosols sitting in your bedroom like that remember sitting there once like totally off me tripping in bedroom like I was at school I about 12 or 13 and my mom going dinner's ready and I went oh know my brother was born so um I must have been about 15 and she went didn't cuz she got Sober by then she got sober when I was 13 and she did ready I remember sitting there dribbling in my bedroom going [ __ ] H I'm to get away with this do you know what I mean and then drink and then drugs but then as you're as you're earning that you're only able to take that oh let's we we we'll get ply then you know you're ducking and Diving so you got 10 pills and then you start dipping into them and doing more then this this ge once you went why are you boys messing around with pills you went should be getting on the gear so much better cocaine never agreed with me never agreed with me but from the start as soon as I did it I was addicted because I wanted more I chased it more I wanted more as I said someone sent me a message earlier on I said well cocaine is basically a definition of insanity because you keep doing it and expecting different results think it's going to get better it's going to do this it's nothing like the movies doesn't make you better looking in there confidence creative was never that for me it made me took the extrovert and made me in like m in really yeah I'd go [ __ ] sit in a Cupboard on me own for nine hours in the dark lock me in bag of gear 40° didn't give a [ __ ] as long as me and my gear that was it wow and it when when it got to when I was doing more and more and more the more G you what it basically was is I remember sitting there and I used to be I used to be so paranoid in my flat upstairs I'd sit in the dark and I'd hold my breath because I thought people outside could hear me I'm you're talking like outside in a flat on a road and I sit there go because I thought they could hear me and I to crawl around on the floor on my's knees to go to the bathroom in case anybody could see a shadow I go toilet I think go toilet like cat stand like you don't your par you're looking at the window and the fingers in I'm like [ __ ] hell [ __ ] and then it wouldn't work so I'm going to piss so now I'm going back like before i' going a pissed and I'm sitting down I remember sitting with his half an of gear like that think he going to last forever but it don't eventually it's going away and it's going away it's going away and I remember used to sit there and sit there I used to do a gr in one it so I just sit there and then all sudden like I just sit there and go I feel it almost like you're shaking like I go [ __ ] hell like like a proper it an addict's like punch and thinking if I die now I'm going to die happy that's ex is that what you thinking that's exactly how I used to think if I die now I die happy 7 eight hours later or 24 hours when it's in the dark again I'm going through the carpet looking for the little white bits because it's all gone G that [ __ ] AXS [ __ ] [ __ ] mean it's like dust from the floor [ __ ] or some or someone Sho do you know what I mean and I couldn't talk like trying to get some more GE before like when no texted yeah what you want Oh mate horrible mate that is horrible say one thing I was very fortunate I mean I did the same thing with the carpet how much would you get out there but I've gone to crack at one point right and I had an an Awakening moment with crack and I remember that this is I'm so pleased because at that time anything would do you know rohypnols anything to go to sleep Daisy pant anything get older up and down up and down up and down and I remember sitting around my house once with a few of my pals and we'd started on the the crack and I've been washing it at home and I had pipes and all sorts under theed bed and I would do that every night I come home to to I know try do mic I'm oh you come down with this radio so and then it's the worst thing ever everyone don't forget anyway so I was sitting there watching this pipe go round circle and I'm sitting there thinking there a bit he's missed a bit I'm going to that's coming around to me that's going to come around to me I'm thinking about watching the P burn there's a rock Miss I'm I'm going to get a little bit rock extra and I thought [ __ ] what am I doing and it's my my brain went this is the worst ever M and never touched it again and that was in the in the grips of it and I carried on with the other thing but just that and I got rid of the pipes I thought [ __ ] I was so that was out of control that was like I what M what what's the difference between cocaine and crack it's just it's a it's it's it's called free base is it it's basically um washed up cocaine it's not um the high is pretty high yeah it's it's real sort of uh way out there high but the come Down's terrible the the the the behavior around it is terrible people do the worst things to get it it's like you know I can't thankfully touchwood I didn't get into it as I mean I used it for about three or six month three three or four months and then I think I stopped that night thank God but again it's something that's really frightening and very dangerous and you there's a lot of Health complications people take risks with and there look and we know about things called bloodb viruses now which is like some of the work I do you could pass Heep SE so you know when you get a note and you sniff a bit of gear and it's a brand new note you can get blood on the end of the note I'm sure you've all seen it you just suuck it up your nose on the end of a new note it's got someone else's blood on it you can put that into your bloodstream and transfer bloodborne viruses so there are a lot of risks and and also there thing called crack lung which means I don't know if you've know if you've ever if you've ever you know done that with C it it reforms itself it wases out all the the purities and it reforms as a rock right that's a crack rock and it makes that sound that's why they call it that but what it does is when you when you burn it it breaks up into particles but then what it does is once you've inhale it it can get your lungs it reforms right so it goes back to the Rock again so if you imagine doing that a lot your your lungs get covered in these crystals which then makes it impossible to breathe really dangerous I hasten to add just struggling with that get help there's loads of help out there but yeah it's it was that's awareness I was like wow I think to myself this day I remember that moment I said Christ that is so out of my control I do not want to would you remember do you remember the time when you first tried crack I didn't do it I used to smoke cocaine and things we did jooy when did I first SM crack I think uh what made you go to crack did someone say this is even better buzz I think at the time we would just you know you just try anything yeah yeah uming a bigger High yeah that's it basically chasing a bigger high and that's all it was it was like it wasn't for any other reason and just try this and yeah it works and Dan how old were you when you said what I need to stop um how how many years clean are you today I'm 20 20 years clean years well 20 years and as he said like what going back on to that one six months into sobriety and then I it was the triggers of the emotional stuff the insecurity the jealousy the fear the resentment I went and sat there everyone was drinking I done the gear and I went why' I do that why' I do it but I needed to do that to find out um that was after 6 months and then ever since after that but I never picked up a drink ever since 19 and a half years maybe a cocaine if you consider like one lime which is which is but um I was pushing and pushing and pushing and pushing and never once did I think I want to give up I did on the Millennium come back from A Clockwork in Ireland which was Terri terrible and I was fuming I was 18 and a half Stone I'm 14 and half you blow up and half Stone yeah I was 8 and half Stone I was like you know I thought I was taller then because I'm shrinking now but I was um I was I was bloated 18 and a half wow I didn't know um my brain went like that going to start running going to get fit within I stopped drinking that was the only time I managed to stop drinking for a period of time I stopped for the whole of January I lost two Stone January started running prop addictive behavior then I went on to do marathons I done five marath all in a row three of them went I was still on it um I could tell you some mad stories about that like yeah going out all night and then like literally in the morning going and running 12 miles man but then running up the hill because I had the telling out shouting out at 6 o' in the morning middle of wi again like no sleep going angle just like mental but I was pushing myself pushing myself and pushing myself and drinking it was only at the end that a guy I live with guy called flumpy remember him putting his head around the door on a Munday I had all these different joints all over the table like a couple of bottles I was like I got enough for the off license shot and he just went he went go to bed that kid I he went oh you're an alcoholic [ __ ] shake and D we talk talk to me like that it wasn't long after that it stopped but if it wouldn't right so my one was and then I went to our be for Clockwork had finished what year we talking roughly uh this is 2003 okay done some mad stuff in our beef I swore to the girlfriend I was with that I wasn't going to drink anymore cuz I was in that restaurant the one I said I throw the air bomb in earlier on SAA was drinking nice red wine didn't have no money I was skinned at the time drinking red wine but where alcohol used to say like you was like that and alcohol would make you like going into the green and make you like happy and relaxed shoe and as they say it it it rounded off the square edges and it would just went like that went into the black from I was drink whoa what's going on here so I thought I've got to drink another one I drunk another one it went even worse and I knew I knew my drinking was over after that night I spoke to my mom I borrowed someone's phone because I was skinn I didn't have no credit and I rang her and she said well you know what you got to do the first time she said to me she said she was in England and she went cuz she was sober it did by this time whatever and she went can you feel my arms around you and I'm [ __ ] crying it was outside can you and I pop on the Rocks I'm going help me please come back went to V Festival same thing again what we talking about earlier on when I said on the mic BL giving up the GE and I walked in all my mates there and I went not going to get on it anymore like I don't care it's not their business and I pressed the [ __ ] it button cuz everyone was enjoying themselves and and I was I felt I was in the wrong environment get me [ __ ] shots give me some bugle give me some pills give me some weed who's got this who's got that and it just went um where I'd already changed it pushed me so my brain not like a headache the pain was so incredible I thought it was going to split open yeah I actually felt like it someone was if you have it it it was going to be it with a with a machete and like a like a melon and split that was a pain I was in got home from there that night went to an after party played up at the after party woke up the next morning went like that and went oh I knew I can feel it yeah it's over yeah it's done it's finished you're just gone that was it from that moment on I've not done it ever since that's amazing but what blo said is the arest journey for me was the AA yeah I went to AA and I fell in love with a oh you fell in love with it that's nice to cuz a lot of people can fight it you know did you manage to do the whole 12ep program yeah I messed about with this and that and have you completed a 12 step program today no okay no but I I I went AA became my going out y went there on this Saturday night met all these people this Gea saying about how he done this this Gea said this this lady sat here the light went on the light went on and I went oh my [ __ ] God these are the people I need to be with I have found my tribe yeah do you know what I mean and i' done AA for eight years seminars Retreats meetings te- boy secretary open up close R people took them and sponsor sponsor of people uh people say to me you be my sponsor and I say look I'll be your friend I won't be your sponsor youever you need to ring this is the artist of the tough this guy's now passed away G called farmer Dave and I used to love him I used to call him mad he was mad that's what I loved about him I was when he used to share he was incredible so just for example anyone who has never been an a me NA meeting CA whatever it is can you give the listener an example of what it actually is when you walk in there it's like a well I mean look I was going to say um uh as I said the reason I didn't continue was because my brain wasn't ready to accept anything I couldn't listen to anything I couldn't hear anything I needed to get Calm before I could actually take anything on board I advocate all that stuff now so basically what it is is it's a it's a blanket it's somewhere this is my my interpretation it's somewhere you walk in there's no judgment you don't feel different you just go because because as soon as someone starts speaking someone comes out over you and says all right yeah you're all right you're all right sit down have a cup of tea and you go oh pce like this is does this really exist yeah and theoretically what happens after that is you make friends and you you know you get asked to become and then you can sayu you you talk about stuff which is going on for you and that's where the support network is what you need don't forget you've stopped you've stopped a life when you stopped doing that you stopped a life you had to replace you say you you you stopped and stuff before you stopped did you have the fear of not being fun you know when you stop when you stop you do I'm going to do now you realize did you have that feeling yeah of course I did did you have that feeling like you knew you want how many years do you reckon you knew you wanted to stop but you didn't want to stop cuz you didn't think you going to have any more fun I never thought it was going to stop really yeah I had that feeling after oh I'm going to be boring now and then you start start realizing that life Ain all about clubs yeah and then I started taking to my my grandmother to like the Albert Al to Shostakovich present Shostakovich or the um the British when they do all the um second world war planes I was taking a A or doing this I started living life yeah because all I was doing was clubs yeah but think about this you actually were present yeah for yeah good for youal good for so think about this though so you're saying about being the fun you've got to think who who am I being fun for yeah why then you think that's they probably don't know anyway don't care they're out having their own fun yeah and and I don't need to be that because that person who who I thought was the fun one is actually killing himself and not being and it's not fun when you get to that stage where it's not enjoyable mate it's a it's it's a it's an existence did you find did both of you find that you had Pals around you were a bit like yeah we like him we like d we like block go because [ __ ] he's a liability let's just crap Shuffle away from him on night's out no there was I get him out for you for you what about you then if people saw me when I was out of like like outlandish Behavior then they wouldn't want to be around me my mates would they' put up with it but as as as you there's a saying along the lines of like people tolerate you when you're successful yeah when the success are gone you become a pest yeah okay I mean you got the money and you're scr in for a bit of gear and you become a pest and that's what I became like you got n GE you got this how do I get free drinks how do I get out my n in the way that I want on [ __ ] up you become pissed they put up with you especially in arifa and and other places they put up with you when there's something in return for them in it for them yeah there's something good in return from when it rain they like did you find you get used at all over the years either of you no everybody it was business everyone was doing everyone was yeah you did what you had to do I mean I think for me I think we just shared shared whatever I don't think don't think we we looked at being used I think we were just we all just went along with whatever was going on so it wasn't like I don't think there was any alterior motives or back then I don't think people thought like that maybe maybe it's a different way of thinking now but I mean back in I mean especially cluband early days and and the I beef thing we was all in that that bubble of we love each other yeah of course we don't you know we're just we're here to have um a party we're here to enjoy the music we're here to enjoy whatever else is going on so you didn't really think he didn't analyze anything too much how did you how did you how did it affect you getting Celebrity Status everywhere you went at your Peak did you like it you know again you probably didn't see it celebrity States but people like even Dan looked up to you and people around were looking up I mean never it never registered like that for me at the time so I didn't have that more afterwards because you know after what well after I stopped okay because then cuz then it's Fame yeah okay you're quite famous and then when you stop being or or you you how do you deal with Fame and it's it's I found it I always struggle with it why I don't know because I maybe I had impostor syndrome or or survivors guilt which is you know because I always always felt that um deep down I always felt well how comes I make it through this stuff and I've seen some of my friends God rest of their souls pass away when I was terrible and yet I still have this I'm still here type thing so it was always a bit of underlying you know self-doubt or self I don't know what you call it self-esteem issue I don't know all all this personal stuff which we we get through our lives and it's dealing with that stuff so I I the celebrity status I look I'm very what's the word uh when people say oh it's BL kind a photo I don't mind that because it means that oh W I've touched someone's life in a way that's good hopefully or that you know they've enjoyed the music over the years or you know uh we've had some fun out live out somewhere type thing you know um and what yeah I suppose it's accepting tell me tell me about that that period in your life when when you uh when you went on to the Brit Awards and went on stage well that was what year what year was it it was that was uh 99 yeah um I I look I mean after I stopped taking gear I went on top of the pops we had a hit record number three in the charts I was like you know I was the DJ Behind the back at the back of the stage going I've got dancers and everyone else going TP mate so he was off thir in what song was it It the bloxer remix of You Should Be Dancing so the Spice Girls of West Life who were in front of me so I got photos of me and Melanie C who's DJing well now which is well done M but we've we've got photos of me and Brian Adams and melc and also the click which is MC Creed and uh the hey the what the Click Click I thought he said something else The Click honestly I thought I something else so the click were a band at the time but we we we were all on top of the pops it was a lovely little thing and then on the back of that uh so the story around of Brits is quickly I'll briefly tell you yeah um I my mate my best mate who's still my best mate uh Matt if you're listening hello mate he was running the Afterparty of the Brits he' done it and and his partner was Jamie wood Ronnie's son yeah they had a company which they used to run the Alp Brits I DJs many times for him at the Afterparty which is great and he said this year look we've got a new kid going to come do it do you mind leave I said not a problem at all in that Gap the Ministry of Sound rang up and said the Brits have said we're nominated for best British dance act and I went oh okay they said we're not going to win but we're not just I said we get us a table and they went well there's no point we're not going to win I said well just get us a table why not we should be there and they went well why I said cuz I said so get us a table and the Brit R I said well we've got a table uh you can bring this amount of people we're bringing all the the first minute last minute.com millionaires or first people big uh the industry so we're all sitting around the table and now in the meantime my mate is run me and said look he's let us down can you do the after part said yeah no problem I'm going to be there anyway so I'll bring me records in the limo I've took my my mate Brady and the other Lads in the band we've gone up in the limo Dro me records in the room I thought oh I so I've got and it's free champagne so I'm so few glasses ofe champagne and I'm saying hello to everyone there all the people the phones people block what you doing here yeah yeah you know exactly what I said on the stage what are you doing here and um so the evening progressed and then uh I was talking to I was s with um name droing Chris Ms and Trevor Nelson we were sitting because the radio one was there kiss were down there I was with Ministry of s the music and and the level C right there a b and c we were in the C's so um I've talking to danne from another level Dane Bowers and um is your he's a power with mine anyway so he's you've won an award I went and that was it I didn't didn't see what award Wars didn't know if it was true or not I just right I'm off and I went to get this award so I've walked through this this Myriad of famous people I'm on the B section have gone through that I'm on the A's and there Fat Boy Slim there Pete Tong and there's all the other people in management going you doing [ __ ] off don't you dare stop me and my power I'm on the way to get me a Ward and it was like he's not one anything what's going on looking around was [ __ ] mental anyway so I've ended up on the stage and this is where I've said um and deina said uh what's your name mate and I went random BL o and they went the old place went mental and I was on my way off the stage and then Ronnie said something Ronnie Ronnie would come give him the war to away he said who's that and I sort of went I'll come back to say I'm me or whatever and then we had a little banner I got on and I Got Shuffled off the stage yeah um and then into the the corridor at the end the side corridor right and I've walked down that P it's like it's like P pville I'm like that gu cuz oh here and I'm get to the end and there Matthew like that CU I'm DJ at the after party go forget and he's like that and I've gone I burst into tears go I'm so sorry went what have you [ __ ] done what have you [ __ ] get out I'm DJ when you [ __ ] a get out so um yeah asked to leave and uh the ultimate Ultimate N yeah there's the Ultimate N Dan tell me the tell me the journey from day one to day to year 30 of Clockwork Orange parties wow day one day one was a snooker Hall in hbin what was that was that Paddock padic it was yeah yeah when you done Paddock yeah that video with Smithy he going like that oh d yeah that's what he said video he's about 20 I remember that P and then um and then we just progressed on and we went from like I can remember the old days we went from like paddocks uh this was this was 93 and then we done like um done a film studio and we done here and there and then 9 then we went to a in '94 um and we done a cross for the first time May 1994 bank holiday Sunday we digweed yeah um and on the way I remember coming on the way home and Andy we stopped in his petrol garage and we used to just drink really then and um and I turned around he's got he's caught his [ __ ] goose in his petrol garage like jumped over the fence in his Goose grabbed it was like f put it in the car Joey's girlfriend was like what you doing let it go flapped off and we went to our beefer and then when we come back we' done like Camden Palace an over Grand film studios we' done this to light in film studios car parks and it grew chiny cheah MH um which used to have like a train um carriage in it off of um Oxford Street and I remember coming out of the club being in his car and Andy like flaged me down and I went just drive I don't want him in the car so he got his record box HMV or John Lewis and threw his record box through the window about 6:00 in the morning this like 25 foot by like 6 foot plate glass window and it just sh battery it Go just driving out the road get the [ __ ] out I just got out the Nick it's going to cost me six grand this was like 30 29 years ago and it just went on and on and then we relaunched uh I left in 2001 cuz I was it was my sole job and um I started again started off as a build a site laborer and um we relaunched again I came back 11 years later in 2012 on my 40th birthday at McQueens in sh ditch you played that one yeah yeah and then um two years later we went back to ARA and we've done I mean we've done massive things now Print Works and got clock stock the festival now and we've we've done them all we've gone back to Coco I lose track Orchestra now yeah the orchestra launched in our be we've done like you know we done the orchestra this year in our be done Amnesia gone back to his paradise Bena Park sankes and then the beach parties that we we've done in our beef we took from 300 people to in its height around about 8,000 people think about this though what to Rebrand yeah from scratch yeah and have that following still from 13 14 years previous and come back and do it again yeah bigger you must have had you must have had the 40s and 50y olds bringing their kids back now Sur do this is a story for you right so when we done fire and light box what was it called fire and light box fire and light box when we first relaunched in voxell yeah we started in 2012 this about this is about 2014 it's about 1:00 in the morning it's minus 3 it's packed outside on the Terrace this kid comes out you're right mate I went you sure you're right I'm stand this group of people right you went you think I'm [ __ ] he went you want to see my mom and dad on his H oh my God that was a realization I'd got old sometimes you forget do you know what I mean sometimes you forget I was like like a 20-year-old kid with long hair and spots and whatever when I started on 21 and I was like oh my God now there's grandparents who come with their kids like in their early 60s had kids early their kids out early and you know they're like a grandparent will be there with their kids and you're like what but there's a lot of lot of parents coming tell me about tell me about your party you put on in ier where there's isn't there like a week period where you put it on when everyone piles out the sort of and what sort of age group is it um the biggest age is from like the 45s to the 55s and then you've got like 40s and then you've got majority of 30s but then you get the young kids come the young kids come because they're experiencing what the 90s was all about safe environment they love it they love the atmosphere and they get we did fabric on Saturday and just gone yeah and it was like the 90s brilliant busy sold out blah blah blah it was was only a small amount of youngsters at this one but they love it cuz it was like the '90s School room was rocking everyone singing the songs main room was packed we had we're now doing vinyl again BL I was talking about we're doing vinyl again everyone's loving it because they're pulling out the tunes that everyone's forgot so did you uh did everyone else play vinyl that night the one in the vinyl room that's play vinyl in the vyl room there was vyl room okay got you yeah what tell me about clock stock where is it um it Wason City race course for four years we've moved it this year to a place called Bol Farm it's the it's like the Big B farmers in chelsford okay um and it's a it's like the big sister never said brother actually it's always always always always female related Clockworks a lady in my eyes and um it's like the bigger sister of clockwork so you get many more stages much more production loads of performers all Outdoors how many days uh that's just a one day how much seven so three days right three days I don't know how you do it I don't know how you do it for three days I'm dead I'm dead after 3 days but you imagine like our business models we build up 362 days a year to earn all your money in 3 days all that risk all those Millions at front bang for risk of that to earn your money in three days it's a risky business we're in we're all in but be for weekend's the same thing it killed me this year yeah it hurt we' done like literally we' done we done cafel M we had an orchestra played out that then we' done the hold on hold on hold on Orchestra turn about the orchestra um the orchestra where we we flew over 30 members of the royal film monic and London symphonic for we've done the the finale to clockwork this year for 30 years qu um and we done like we we basically done like along the lines of like classical everyone but it honestly I've got an ey level of acceptance I still find minor faults in it like the lights and all that which no one else has but um it blew me away people come up to like not now not now this is costing me enough [ __ ] money leave me alone you know what I mean and then so you had to fly 30 of them over oh trust me you don't even plus hotels transport food money no that's just them then you've got and you got the production that will come from England and Switzerland oh mate licenses Engineers where we where we hosting this party it was called the rinto def feral it was a government own building on the outside of um ARA town want to do something different but that's done that that I mean working with the government has done you favors massive favors but then we gave them a free concert so we gave six members of the royal fil monic on the Saturday night in our beefer town they they're Royal fonic yeah no the people we flew over we give them 12 members of the orchestra oh for Saturday night to give him party in no in AR be for town they played by the harbor and the mayor was there and all that yeah so did you meet them all no I did I think I didn't go there on a Saturday no Saturday was what was Friday what was Saturday Saturday Saturday was a beach Saturday Beach Saturday was on the beach yeah so i' done the beach and Co s was on Friday Santa what a what a venue what a venue if there's one venue I would want to throw a party there would be there that is a venue we're doing it again next year and that that for me is just like the epiphany of what I'll be talk about this year there was there was there's always a magic in the air at Clockwork yeah which I seem to tap into when I'm out there and I'm like please help me out and I'm talking to the island like a Nutter most people go what's this C all about and I'm driv long I'm going I love you the trees I love the earth I love the sea and it works but this year I think there was something else on there I was dancing in the crowd having it with all the people absolutely loving it covered in black people's glitter and I didn't care would you ever read that but kenter this is our next year be our oh you've done it for three years of you this is our third party day here next year yeah oh wow first year was brilliant was good I like it it's like that it raises up back in the day we used to go par we we went there a couple of times it was a very was like more restaurant e t there still restaurant at the top if you're at the top though you still can get your sushi and stuff top yeah but this was predominantly a it wasn't a nightclub back then was it co was Co was owned by your friend from um from Benny M Park he sold it to them about nine years ago old um B but there's also a club inside yeah yeah yeah yeah you can slip inside and carry on part it's a great venue I mean there's loads of bits to I love it star are wicked it's Amnesia runs it is it and they're they're Wicked they're great to work with Martin's always a good yeah they're good boys um this year was special special but where was going to do Benny motor park and then we moved it and we brought like to ter [ __ ] in fact why why you there real off some names who you who who you uh who you've booked over the years everyone give me examp in the early days it was just it was blo Lisa Jeremy judge Jules topul SE Fontaine yeah and then then when we relaunched then your grand Parks Norman jays came about then it was like then with the festival was like Roger Sanchez Masters at work Eric Millo all of Morales all started going on huge ga's been playing recently gwan Fat Tony fatony well good DJ right but we never thought about like Fat Tony back in the day but now he's with I love him I love his personality i' like get Fat Tony I'm speaking to him in fact I would like to get him on well you should get he smash sevens yeah something else need to get on yeah 100% but he Wicked you know and was I was thinking about something there is somethingone else you need to get on oh H H Dodge H You' played it you've played at the festival before a few years years ago it was all the times and I know you got the I do an hour early in the VIP we to go back but I'm here now so you can Reit did the VIP for in fact did the V VIP for us didn't yeah but it was early cuz I off I prefer do it like cuz I'm you know uh if it's all day parties now that's something we was talking about space on a Sunday that was the only day party in the '90s everything was night time that's right I'm I love day parties I'm done now it's switched get me bed before midnight yeah even nothing good happens after midnight but look I mean look it's it's it's I said this in during the lockdown right we changed our behaviors us lot of our age don't forget before we go out every week cuz was our habit to go out every week so you look at you go out one night you get home what going do next Satur what do next Saturday so had a break of 3 months then 6 months then 9 months then 12 months then like and then before it came sorry before it came back it was like sporadic by that time we'd all realized do you know what I don't mind staying in don't spending time with the family I want to choose the ones I go out to because I don't need to do it every week I've been drinking too much and I realized that sort of thing so we CH and we see daytime nice little dance bit of a you know bit of a get together have a few by 10:00 11:00 and by that time you're tired cuz we are tired perfect you know we're not I find it difficult to be maybe it's me and I'm you know I if you want to go out late go out late but for me I I like to be on a reasonable time and if I have a late night yeah it's very R lad I've absolutely loved this is that it is that the end absolutely love this [ __ ] get off my bus end we done we've done an hour and half we've done an hour and a half that is absolutely golden Lads what an eventful life you've lived then and it's lovely to hear how clean we've been clean for 20 years now and you come out the other side and now you're smashing everything you're doing with Clockwork Mass cuz you're cleaning your present you know what's going on that's that's the reason where we got to where we are because I'm so be dead massive respect and blocko what you've been through mate and we known each other years mate you've lived an eventful life and you've partied like hard than anyone we've ever come across cross thank you mate yeah and yeah and you look great for it mate thank you mate I mean I'm very grateful that as you said you know it could very easily been another way um quite easily in fact so you know where are we now 96 2006 30 uh I'm not only Charlie in 2 yeah massive 27 years years massive respect both I appreciate you coming down come down from mics I know you R the corner block over Mass appreciate but listen can I just say something and you've got to add this in yeah if anyone has any struggles around drinking drugs any with mental health problems don't be afraid to reach out there's lots of support for you now you can contact myself or Danny we'll be more than happy to help Dodge can point in the right direction we'll put some links on the bottom for mental health mind Etc we all but yeah just you know uh we've been through we're lucky to be here and we're lucky to see you today thank you but do reach out don't feel alone and um on your own okay agree and you know what there's a massive website anyone listen to there's a website called Jack ja q.org okay just ask a question that's it it's a phenomenal model the thing it allows people if you go if you go on something you go Google there all these lists of black and white this website is all pre-filmed it's like a master class where you got depression whether you anxiety whether you want to commit suicide whether you got a drug problem and it's there for you you press a button and watch experts talk to you it's phenomenal Jack put the link on theot I'll put the link on there LED I've loved it maybe there'll be a part two in the future it's been lovely maybe if you move closer to London get he's got a nice detour on the way wor boys six days good man Dan thank you m Legend pleasure cheers boys I really enjoyed [Music] that

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