RFK Jr. Reveals Epstein Meeting, Why CIA Killed His Family, & Living w/ Larry David

do you believe that there were government agencies involved in the deaths of your father and Uncle clearly there was government agencies involved not only in the death of my uncle with the cover how do you end up living with Larry DAV Larry he has a lot of rules that he expects everybody to know you just announced that you were on Epstein's flight L had called my wife and said we want to do an adventure this weekend and I said do you want to take the kids F hun we flew out great plane no it was not no was the election in Chicago fixed probably what does that mean fixed I mean they found ballots in the Chicago River they overthrew the government of Ukraine in 2014 which is really what this war is about I mean I knew Harvey weiny I knew Roger ales OJ Simpson came to my house Bill Cosby came to my house you also knew good people we just you don't know these people are swamp creatures until all this stuff comes out O's innocent yeah you just said you lived with Larry David how do you end up living with Larry David he was I recruited him to uh and him and his wife Lori David yeah to I flew out to Los Angeles to recruit them to be on the board of uh the natural resource defense Council I was a senior attorney it's it's it's the big one of the two biggest environmental groups in the country and Lori had a big interest in the environment uh uh Larry Larry's interest well she actually had we we had we had uh launched the first time I met them we had lunch at at the Sunset Hotel in Los Angeles and uh and Lori the thing with h DC is they they didn't let you on the board unless you were the principal so the wife of a principal could not be on the board right they it had to be you know Robert Redford it had to be that person and um and Lori was the one who was driving this and she wanted them to both to have a board seat okay and so she was talking about you know that she really called called the shot she a very very powerful character yeah yeah and she said um she said I control money I write the checks um I have two interests one is child health and the other is the environment and uh and I heard Larry who hadn't said anything and I I heard him say something he said he said I only have one interest and I said what is that and he said it's Larry David I love did they both get board SE that was my first meeting with them did they both get board seats yeah yeah okay so you met him then you and then we became friends and then they they had a house they were building a house at that time in Martha's Vineyard right and I had lost my home in I had outgrown my my home in hyannisport okay which is where we summered every summer yeah so they invited us to stay with them so we we stayed with them for two and a half Summers and then we started taking our other vacations together and we went skiing every every winter and you know we became very very close friends and then at that time Larry was still doing Seinfeld yeah and he had just retired and then he decided to he was going to go up to back to standup comedy okay and he decided to make a uh a film about his return to standup which was kind of ended up being like the curb pilot that was the pilot they didn't intend to do a whole series yeah and they were recruiting Cheryl got recruited because they wanted it to be plausible yeah so that you know they didn't want to use noer your wife for everybody watching sh's my wife yeah and she plays his wife and the first pilot actually she was supposed to be Jewish then they changed that later you know and she became she was a sh but um are are there any weird house rules that Larry had when you guys lived there he has a lot of rules that he expects everybody to know okay what what are Larry's rules well I mean one of the rules I I've talked about this before but when I I started this thing and this couch really sucks you in massages start um but when I when I you know I I met Cheryl he introduced me to Cheryl at a time when when both of us were married and so and there you know there was no he brought her up I was doing no chemistry well not not any kind of you know of that kind of chemistry you know I like you you know it was it was all proper to on the company line I like this yeah but it was it was noteworthy enough both of us remember the you know what happened that day but I we were skiing up in B and I had had a I did a every year for water keeper which was my big my Environmental Group that I you know co-founded and then built to the biggest water protection group in the world our big event every year was a pro celebrity ski event okay and that year we were doing it in B and it was very cold and he so I would say Larry would come every year I'd say to him can you bring some other people so he brought Cheryl and some other people and um and so we met on that ski trip but there was as I said there was no like chemical reaction yeah six years later we were both in involved in a divorce and she came to another event at that time and there was kind of an instant chemical reaction but I knew that um because he does have these rules one of those rules like what what are the ru I need to know that I I could not date his television wife without getting his permission for her why why what is his logic I mean he watched the show right but the show he always has logic thing what I like about that yeah yeah but and he they all have logic they're not arbitrary rules they're rules that kind of everybody does know but they're not written down anywhere whereas like some people are like quirky and weird and their shows are built around how different and weird they are and they go yeah I'm just an anxious weird guy I feel like Larry's like you guys are weird for not adhering to these rules that we all know make sense he feels right and justified in everything he does I mean that's a good way of character characterizing his you so what is his justification for why you can't be with his it's just obv that you know that oh it could affect the Rel you might not want him kissing her on the show no no no it's it it was that he had initial claimed her and since we're friends wait you think sexually you think Larry was like into it or what I think he loves Cheryl right and you know and I'll tell you what he said to me because I I can't I called dibs first rer refusal right there what did he say Kennedy's always meddling yeah so that um season was one of the was a season when Cheryl wasn't in it he later you know it was after his divorce from Cheryl which was the the way it happened was you know his that show would follow his life and it would predict his life so he wrote himself getting a divorce on that show and then that year Lori told him she wanted a divorce yeah yeah yeah I this is my dream work and in shooting the the year after the divorce he moves to New York to shoot a play which is called The Producers right okay so but he has to move to New York to do that so I flew to New York and um and I went to visit him he was staying at the Lowe's hotel and I visit him at 10:00 at night and I I said I need to talk to you about something and then I said you know I I feel like U you know I I don't know how I put it but I said I I feel a lot of affection and attraction to Cheryl and I just wanted to check with you to make sure that was cool and he said he surprised me cuz I felt like he would be horrified by it and he said um he said she's the best human being that he's ever met he said that she is beloved in the indust and that she is the only person in Hollywood that doesn't have a single enemy and that he was really happy for me now when he talked to Cheryl and she said do you think this is going to work he went to be fair he you didn't ask him what he thought about y'all's chance he was consistent you asked what he thought about Cheryl and he's like she's the best she asked what he thought about you and he like exactly it it was true he's he's always honest in that way uh but then he reenacted it that moment on curb with Ted dancing asking him permission and he says you know no you can't do that that's cuz that's what he I know that's and when you guys were living together out at the vineyard was it like did he have rules about food or anything like did you ever drink too much OJ and he had to like sit he's a shoes off guy I assume yeah like I just imagine he would you know um he was all one of the preoccupations he had he actually gave a speech about this and another comedy event that I had the difference between the Kennedy and The Davids okay and um and he had a long speech of all the different things that the kennedies you know when they were kids were could not come in the house unless um until it was dark so that we were locked out of the house in the morning and they said don't come back till dark and he said The Davids were locked in the house all day and were never allowed to go out cu the world was dangerous oh he had a you know he had a a Litany of those kind of things but and my family my brothers would come over and visit a lot and um you know he was always he's he he's the same person he is on the show except a much more generous kind-hearted version of that and uh anyway it was you know it was really really fun living over there okay uh so many things I want to talk to you about today have all these crazy notes maybe I get there uh first of all there are people that are listening or watching around that might not know you can you explain your voice to them yeah so I had a very strong voice in fact unusually strong voice till I was 42 years old 1996 my voice I got an injury a brain injury that caused my voice uh caused this to my voice and it's called spasmodic distonia yeah and um it's pretty much stable and in fact it was much worse yeah so Cheryl and I went over about I don't know eight months maybe three months before I I announced I canidate see and we went to Japan and they do this surgery in Japan where they put a a piece of like a a bridge of of titanium in my throat and it helped and then I started doing some therapies and uh you know it's improving if you woke up from that surgery with an Asian accent that would I said that I said I don't want that happen I told that to gu before you went under I said well they never put I need to pronounce RS I'm RFK they never put me on they they you get TR for like agent stuff no must have misre that it wasn't misre it was was good he got you he got you go anyway so I'm not going to go there with you yeah yeah yeah yeah good good you're our president you can't be making these jokes only I'll be making these jokes okay so not the worst thing americ Japan when I did that surgery um I they never knocked me out so they did the whole thing when I was awake because they had to test out a bunch of different voices on me no way and Cheryl was in the room but there was a lot of Carnage that was associated with and she ended up having to leave but she was listening to the voices and they would say Okay count in this voice and they'd move the bridge and I'd say you know 1 2 3 4 5 and they'd say do you like that one and I and and that's what happened is it laborious at all to talk it's um I have to think about it which you know I didn't before I have to do some action it's not painful but it's painful for me to listen to myself I I can't listen to myself really if I hear myself on TV I'll never watch this podcast oh thanks sorry um because I just can't stand the sound of my voice and I I feel sorry for other people have to listen to it but I it's all I got well if you're president we're going to have to listen a lot I know you know a lot of people you know aren't worried about that you can just TW I see it they say on the internet I like everything about you but I can't take your voice can we do autotune you isn't there like a there should be AI yeah because we do it with singers right like they have these weird inflections and then we manipulate it and make it people people are starting to write me saying I can fix you with AI or I can fix the way you appear or something like that but every day I get somebody who says I can fix your voice and I used to try them all because I you know I'm willing to try sort of new therapies and treatments but I don't have patience for them so I don't I it's it's hard for me to stick with them over long periods of time especially if I don't see quick returns um and now I say to people and a lot of them went to dead ends now I say to people show me somebody with my condition who you fixed before that's good and so very few of them can do that actual question having to think about what you're going to say does that kind of end up being a good thing in your position no cuz I'm I it doesn't give me extra time I'm having to think about I better take a breath first before I start talking or maybe nothing will come out but it used to be with my voice that there were times particularly early in the morning if I spoke I I didn't know if anything was going to come out wow so um but so now it's much better it's much more reliable yo quick announcement Los Angeles I know a lot of you out there have been asking me to add another show first of all thank you guys so much for selling out the Forum uh and I have some uh fantastic news May 9th Staple Center I believe it's called crypto or something right now but we're still calling it Staples uh Shane Gillis and I will be headlining Staple Center crypto Arena or whatever the hell it is thank you my boy anyway uh you guys can get tickets for that pre-sale starts Thursday 9:00 a.m. Pacific Standard Time pre-sale code is crypto go scoop those up that's going to be wild um get those before they are gone that is going to be a uh that's going to be a dope show that's going to be a dope show also the life tour we added a bunch of dates you guys saw it last week uh if you didn't get those get on them immediately uh we are adding uh a third show in Vancouver thank you guys so much for that we added a bunch of other shows as well you can go to the shows.com and you can get those tickets but Vancouver we have added a third show thank you so much and L let's get back to the show you uh you've done one of the craziest things ever which is you just announced that you were on Epstein's flight like you're the only person I think that was like Hey I was on usually people were like hey you were on and you were like no let me let me just tell everybody great plane was it plain I no it was not I don't know not going to impress him right I mean it it wasn't like a big plane like uh I've been on Donald Trump's playe nice which is well it's like a 737 it's like it's not like a little G6 or something like that it's I love it holy just Flex on him little G okay but give the context obviously to the EP thing cuz you basically got out of what I so first of all I you know yeah I'm in New York for most of my life yeah so and I you run into everybody in New York I mean I knew Harvey Weinstein I knew Roger ALS I knew OJ Simpson came to my house on Bill Cosby came to my house you also knew good people we I did know a lot of them but you know you don't know these people people are swamp creatures until all this stuff comes out OJ's innocent OJ has done nothing [Laughter] yeah wait do you know something okay go on so you're you're hanging out so in 1993 my wife um who has since passed away Mary Richardson she knew Glen Maxwell and I forget exactly how but she knew she lived in England and she you know she knew Glenn Maxwell and she said to me I we we were going to Palm Beach to visit my mother over Easter and she said that Glenn had offered her a flight so we went on the flight and um and we flew down there with him and then we stayed with my mom and I all my kids were all on the flight this is 93 yeah don't look like thaty in retrospect yeah but with I had very very young kids I don't know um but anyway made it worse they um uh uh the stuff didn't come out about him till I think 2006 2006 yeah that's 13 years later nobody knew at that point yeah and then sometime in the next year or two I can't remember when um I did another flight with them because they had they Glen had called my wife again and said we want to do like an adventure this weekend and uh and I said do you want to go f I knew a paleontologist who worked on the Pine Ridge reservation in South Dakota and I had wanted to go out there and do F haunting and I said you want to take the kids fossil hunting what an awesome weekend activity yeah so we flew out we went to um we went to uh to sitting Bol which is the big you know Mountain that they've C we went to Rushmore and then we spent a day uh fossil hunting which was really great my my son found a skull almost a perfect skull of a saber-tooth tiger but abstein at that sometimes you say things that my brain can't even comprehend as if they're so normal you said I sum B you lost me at summered in or whatever but the fossil hunter was Epstein on the fossil was that the first time he's for old that's the first time I spent time with him oh wow and I um and I I realized he was uh creepy was he okay go he and I I'll tell you two things that happened on that flight first of all when we got to um when we got to Rapid City there were two cars rental cars wait right SUVs waiting for us to take us out to the fos haunting and he took one of them for himself and then all of us were in the rest of them and he didn't actually F hunt he he stayed in that car and then he would get out and be on his cell phone when we were at Rushmore or something like that and and when we were F hunting and all the kids filled up boxes with fossils and we had a great time but he was not a participant and then on the way back I was asking him about how to how he made his money because I knew that he had been a teacher at doton school yeah and he told me that um that and I asked him and I knew then he was the money manager for Les Wexler lied yeah yeah on the limited yeah so I said to him how did you go from being a math teacher at Dalton School to to that so okay good good and he said that some Chinese people had um had approached him who had been taken advantage of by American grifters and they had lost a lot of money and they asked him to find the money for them and he succeeded in doing it and that was uh how he had that was the Launchpad for his career so that didn't make any sense to me because it just raised 50 more questions like how did the Chinese guys find you in at dalon school so anyway that you know when somebody's talking to you and you have a meter that is like this doesn't make any sense and he he told me something else on that flight which was I said to him I asked him about something about investing in the stock market and he said I don't invest in anything on the stock Market unless I have inside knowledge H so and I just met him and he was telling me that he was committing federal crimes only Insider tra and then the plane landed in in Chicago we thought we were going down in New York and it landed in Chicago and he got off the plane and there was a limousine waiting there a Mercedes waiting for them there and it had a very beautiful blond like very beautiful woman standing next to it and he said my plan my plans have changed I need to go to Europe and he got a fir plane and they took the the Mercedes to another plane on the time ha and he and the girl got onun it and Glen was sitting in our plane crying and never explained it but I just thought that he's a creep yeah what do you think her involvement in that whole I have no idea I don't have any information my kids did you get a vibe from her like you got from him no I didn't so you sometimes I I don't know I mean I also I mean I was thinking about yeah yeah yeah and um I knew you know I felt like she was raised in wealth and privilege incredible top of the aristocracy and everybody knew her her father's Robert Maxwell and then Robert Maxwell and her brother who is the Arab parent Robert Maxwell then dies in this very weird way off off the boat yeah and in the Mediterranean it could be suicide it could be you know something else so um and then uh the brother then then they find out then his whole empire collapses and it turns out that he's been stealing from the labor unions and the entire Fortune disappears yeah and Goen then comes the United States you know it's hard for them to live here and she comes and I think she my impression was that and I don't know she was always wonderful to me and you know kind but again you you never know about people but it seemed to me that she was looking for somebody you know who to replace the father who had wealth Etc and and then you know Jeffrey was the kind of guy who would test your loyalty your loyalty by you know continuing to push you to the edge from what I know about him now so I don't know much about what happened to him then you know other than what I read it's not a big interest to me but my kids were very very smart and well informed and not a conspiracy theories like like me right one of my older kids said to me he was definitely killed oh who and I it was Conor and I said and I was shocked to hear him say that because usually when I say to him things to him like you know when I say something to him about he's skeptical of me right so and that's their job as kids you want to raise kids who don't just believe everything you say I succeeded in doing yeah easier for you than most yeah so anyway he's very you know he's very grounded very well informed and he said to me Jeff it was definitely a murder yeah because the weird circum there's too many weird coincidences followup question real quick about this there's all these people that are kind of with Epstein a lot you picked up on a creepy vibe from him immediately do you have any judgment toward a guy like a Bill Gates who's associated with him a lot and either like are you like n you must have seen some creepy and look the other way because I picked it up very quickly like what are your thoughts on that I don't you know I don't I I try to stay away from that kind of speculation like if you look at my book Anthony fouchy I I tell people what I know happened and what can be documented but I I never connect the dots and say oh he must have known or he was motivated by this or that I try never to look into people's heads but I did see creepiness immediately I don't know the other thing is that I think Jeffrey um immediately realized that I was not a a a Target that I was not in oh yeah I was not you could be an asset he could have manipulate that I'm not going to yeah and I didn't have interest that I was like yeah you know interested in building River Keeper and you know so I don't know yeah and and yeah that's that's also interesting that you kind of I don't want to say checked him but you were vetting him like just asking him where the money came from yeah I think immediately he like uhoh this guy might be able to smell something fish going exactly and he's not going to wow you with money yeah yeah he's not going to wow you with experience ass G6 get out yeah exactly the answer to the question that everybody wants to know AOS what is your decision um in this March 10th man this is this is very tough in this March 10th I'm going to take my talents to YouTube and release my new special gaset YouTube that was the conclusion that you woke up with this morning that was the conclusion I woke up with this morning why you know I just feel it's going to give me the best opportunity to to grow to expand my my no no no I I mean why is this newsworthy at all I I'm sorry I what what do you mean you've been on YouTube for years well yeah but this is this is my special so it's you already did a special on YouTube it was bring back AO I I helped you promote that yeah but that this was this is an hour and it's an hour that's it's been done a million times I mean your friend Andrew Schultz has a whole business model around this I you know I have the news to do right I have wars to cover I mean what makes you think that I have time for this um does does it help you to know that there's this the money is going to the children does it actually go into the children it I mean it will if I have a child you know what I mean well uh thanks for wasting my time gaset March 10th on YouTube because where else would it be guys my special is coming out this Sunday March 10th on YouTube it's called gaslit it is the most important thing I've done in the 17 years I've been doing stand up everything built up to this moment I put every ounce of my soul into this I hope you guys love it as much as I do Sunday March 10th noon please watch it please tell your friends I'm so grateful for all of you who made this possible and I'm so happy to be sharing this and I'm truly proud of it and I hope you guys love it thank you gaslit Sunday March 10th on my 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I'm not giving push back it was a it was you know I was told that I was a conspiracy there is because I thought glyphosate which is Round Up caused cancer right well then you know I won a 2.2 billion dollar jury verdict on this three jury can you explain what it is Roundup Roundup is City Boys yeah Roundup is an her it's the most commonly used herbicide on Earth and it had it the uh the active ingredient is glyphosate it's made by Monsanto it kills Everything Green except things except plants that have been genetically altered to be Roundup resistant and so you know you have Round Up Ready corn where the seeds have been altered so that and you can fire all the Farm Workers who used to wear backpack sprayers and and spray the weeds when and you oh and you saturate the entire landscape from an airplane with glyphosate and everything green will die except for the corn yeah so now they have Round Up Ready corn they around ready soy it and glyphosate is everywhere now it's in your kids Cheerios it's in the uh it's in wine it's in beer it's in everything but what we did we sued on behalf of Home gardeners and we had about in the end we had about 40,000 home Gard ERS who had gotten on hudkins lymphoma um from uh from Round Up and the reason we sued on home gardeners is because home gardeners are very careful about chemical exposures and if we could not Sue on behalf of Farm Workers because Farm Workers are are exposed to everything arine the indicat toids all of this wide range of and so you can't really there's so which thing is actually causing the cancer but with home gardeners you could yeah we could isolate it and we could say you know we get them on the sand and say did you ever use another pesticide never why did you use it because they had a picture on the front of it that had a guy spraying with bare feet and his shirt off and it said safer than aspirin safer than anything you can drink it you know yeah and um so uh so we represented home gardeners and we you know we won you know we won a series Louise won uh 289 million the first suit an African-American grounds keeper for his school in in Northern California who had gotten it all over his body he he was getting it he was carrying a sprayer that leaked and he was getting these postulating lesions he called up uh Monsanto and he said could this be from the Roundup and they either didn't answer the phone or they told him no m mhm and he kept using it and then they you know covered his whole body and he was dying when we tried the cas the massive accomplishment I think to reinforce what Andrew is saying is an idea of like I think people will just kind of write you off as conspiracy theorists I think his point is to empathize with like what you seen in your life you're we say assassinated because it's not personal for us your dad is murdered nobody really understands what happened your uncle is murdered as the president nobody's really clear on what happened so obviously a guy who grows up like that is going to see these theories and be like y I'm not dismissing any of this because of what happened to me in my life I think that's what you're trying to say and I think that's where it's like people can write you off as conspiracy theorist but also empathize agree or disagree with of course you probably would be too why wouldn't you be skeptical especially if it's you know I mean I don't know do you believe that there were government agencies involved in the deaths of your father and Uncle yeah I mean clearly there was government agencies involved not only in the death of my uncle but the cover up and you know I'm an attorney if I just with the evidence without any doing any Discovery with the evidence out there now that has accumulated about my uncle said there's over a million documents many of the people involved made confessions um including e Howard hun uh David adley Phillips David Morales uh Charles harlson Woody's father who was you know in peripherally in it in the in it and many many others um who were um who were involved of confess but also there's just there's hundreds of thousand documents that you know show what happened and you have a 60y year CIA effort to make sure nobody sees that okay so can you tell us what one you think happened based on those documents and based on what those people said and then also what the CIA has done to squash those yeah I mean the B best evidence is that the you know the CIA was involved in a project to assassinate Castro and in order to uh promote that project they recruited um there was a there CIA station Chief in Miami and and you know the head of the project was a iy called Bill Harvey who hated my father my father and him uh just Tangled with each other from the beginning and my father was Attorney General but he was also overseeing the CIA and Harvey hated my father my father extremely disliked him and Harvey was running the Cuba project including the assassination project and he recruited three big mob families help him assassinate Castro Santos traic from Tampa Florida and uh GI Conor Sam Gian con from Chicago and uh Carlos Marcelo who was the Dallas and New Orleans crime Chief and um these are Italian mafia families or Cuban well actually Carlos marzella is of Italian descent but he was Tunisian he was born and he's a very interesting character my father once I one they deported him because he was here illegally and he ran he was a tiny little guy and he ran the whole mob family the mob from Dallas to New Orleans wow my father one point which mob though the Italian mob or yeah those are the three most powerful mafia families the reason they were involved is they all had casinos in Havana God it got it got it got it got it got it and when when Castro that was this big thing in fact when I've I've talked to Castro met with him a number of times really yeah and he and I asked him are you getting capitalism in it back and he said yeah we're going to get it carefully bring it back but never the casinos and and the casino because he thought that had corrupted the whole country so this is interesting so there's the interest from the Italian mafia families because they're profiting off these casinos Americans are flying down there they're spending tons of money in these casinos they're extra they were making millions millions on those casinos so they're incentivized to get him the out of here so it's easy for the US government so they so they can go back and bring that Cas I get it they want to turn into Vegas so uh so they and and uh Bill Harvey the CIA agent had a liaz on to all those mobs and that guy was named Johnny roselli and Johnny relli uh was actually murdered I think in uh 73 when Congress reopen the Warren Commission and uh it's called The Church committee and they tried to um actually Gary hardt who I've talked to about this they subpoena Johnny roselli oh he was supposed to come talked to the committee and he never showed up and then his body was found in a 55 gallon oil drums chopped into pieces floating at biscane Bay but he had also been involved in in a a weird way in my father's I always thought that my father that Siran kill my father can we give a little context to your father's death okay your father was my uncle my father in 1960 ran my uncle's campaign he was my you know my my my uh my grandfather Joseph Kennedy made a lot of money in banking and in owning um a studio one of the bigest studios he was making films I didn't even realize that he was a big filmmaker they weren't good films by they were family films at that time and it was like Tarzan and but all clean you know that that you could show in theaters across the Midwest that was his business plan it was uh it was part of RKO my grandfather after my uncle's death my the CIA um tried to smear my grandfather by starting this rumor that he had been a boot ler that's what I was about to ask was never a boot ler so this was wow to me common knowledge my whole life I was made that and then I start doing some research on you and I find out that there was money made in alcohol but it was through exclusive deals when prohibition dropped yeah he and Jimmy Roosevelt who was the president's son when they knew because the way that they got rid of prohibition is you had to get uh I think 26 States had to um had to reject was it the 16th Amendment or 17th Amendment the one that you know illegalized so you had to have state by state adopt laws saying we we want to get rid of that prohibition yeah and when it get close to the end and they knew they were going to win it my my grandfather and Jimmy rooseville went over to Scotland and they bought pinch which was a very high quality B plan scotch and they took all the inventory and they shipped it over to warehouses on the Canadian border with the US so it was ready to the night that prohibition ended they were shipping a high quality whiskey to everybody but that's his only involvement with it um and then I think he sold that company later on for a lot of money he he was conscience stricken about it oh really yeah he didn't think he should be selling alcohol and he sold it not I don't for religious purposes or because it just this yeah it was like a it was a you know it was um a sin Enterprise essentially what they'd call a sin Enterprise and he didn't you know he he made a lot of statements about I I don't feel good about this so he overcorrects and starts making family films which suck apparently but well I I don't think he was making family films for I I don't know you know whether he was making for moral reasons or whether it was just a marketing strategy there were all these theaters in the midwest ah that didn't want to see women in stockings you know see their ankles right and that kind of stuff he was Tyler Perry before Tyler Perry exactly okay so CIA starts to smear so that well after he died the there was a guy who worked for the CIA had been vur bureau chief for the New York Times and his job for the next 30 years was uh was smearing my family and he's working for the times he was one oh he had been he had been his cover had been York Times bureau chief in Havana before he just came out of the closet and said oh I actually work for the CIA wow and then he transferred to Langley and that was his job and there was a whole cottage industry of Kennedy books that came out and he's the one that started this rumor that my you know my uncle or that they had my family my grandfather had gotten samg and to fix the election in Chicago Chicago I've seen an entire one hour documentary that is all baloney and like his channel and if you think about it when I was and then and then Gian was angry because my father tried to put him in jail my father had six FBI agents follow me and when he when he left the his home in the morning they'd sit behind him in the movie theaters they they at the table next to him when he went out they ruined his life and um so but the thing is when I was a kid like um uh maybe six five or six year old kids there's pictures of me sitting on my mother's lap in the front row of the rackets Committee hearing which my father was running my uncle was Senator he was the head of that committee my father was his Council and my father I'm grilling Sam Gian Conor I was there Gian Conor took the Fifth Amendment over a 100 times my father was ridiculing him and saying you know he said do you hang people is it true that you hang your enemies on meat Hooks and she kind of laughed and and my father said to him you're giggling like a little girl so they hated each other so now you know what this room this is this is one year before the election he's doing that to Jan con the idea that Jan then my father would then go bribe Gan Conor to fix the one year before JFK won the election yeah okay and my father ran the campaign for yeah yeah so the idea that my father would go from that hearing room where you know the mob hated him that somehow he would convince the mob to fix the election to fix the election now was the election in Chicago fixed probably how how well because daily fixed all the elections and daily you said mayor daily he he fixed the Democratic elections in Chicago and the Republicans fixed them in Southern Illinois so they were all fixed and in fact they would wait for each other what does that mean fixed explain like how how how do you do dead people voting have you know all the different ways to get rid of ballot you know million different ways I mean they found ballots in the Chicago River so um but they were mainly interested in the down ballot um contest so Jud judges you know uh you know the pre the people who were governing Chicago that's what he was mainly interested in but here's the thing when the the election was over some of the Republicans said oh they fixed it so Dy said let's do a recount of the entire State and I will personally pay for the recount and the Republican election Election Commission which was run by Republicans voted unanimously to not do that why because they probably because they knew that account would we both get disclosed everybody out and but here the bottom line punchline is that even if my uncle had lost Illinois he would have still won the election okay okay so okay so that's another CIA smear why is this CIA uh why do they hate you guys so much all right guys let's take a break for a second I need to point something out how the UFC has made me a better predictor of basketball outcomes talk to me okay I wish that there was a way that like the line adjusted super quickly but this was uh a few nights ago the Knicks were playing Jaylen Brunson suffers like what they believe is a non-con knee injury scary right very scary that's all like almost always you're like okay that's ACL or something um and he to LIF up his leg and his leg is kind of like labored in his ability LIF it up and his foot is almost like dead he has like a dropped foot so he 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what is it about the Ken you it was a f and I wrote a book about this this 60-year F fight between my my family and the CIA it started I think in 1955 my uncle was U appointed to a commission uh by um run by what the it's called a Hoover Commission that looked at what the CIA was doing and the CIA originally was created as an aspan agency it wasn't supposed to do dirty tricks aspan a means spying it means data collection and analytics MH and that's why it was started abroad right not it it's Charter for bids it from operating in the United States from propagandizing Americans from doing anything in this country yes which it violates constantly but it Charter prohibits that so it wasn't supposed to do dirty tricks and it's m Alan Dulles who was the essentially the first director manipul ated um and he had been at the OSS which is was yeah but the O after the war Congress and the Senate Republicans Democrats said we can't we can't have a secret uh uh spy agency in this country okay because that's what you know totalitarian regimes do that's the Stasi in East Germany it's a KGB it's peep in Chile it's Sak and Iran and you know the only totalitarian regimes have spy gencies so uh so and everybody agreed on that and then I Truman got in there and realize okay now we have one big bomb right that we can drop on the rest of the world but you can't do that in all of these little cont you know these little brush fire rebellions that are happening we have to have a way to fight these wars without dropping the bomb on everybody and so they you know realize the cheapest way to do that is let the CIA go to fix the elections to assassinate Le they weren't supposed to assassinate anybody but they they started almost immediately who was number one that they took out well they they deposed Mohammad mosad in 1953 so the the agency was started in 47 and they began immediately overthrowing governments the the two most famous One are mam mosad in 53 in Iran he was the first um democratically elected leader of Iran in its 8,000 year history whoa and then the next year they overthrew and they did that because he loved the United States MOS and in fact he threw the British out because he thought Churchill was trying to overthrow him and and his his AIDS were saying the US going to do it too and he said oh the US is a uh was a colonial Nation itself and it threw it off and there idealistic there on his side he made a big mistake D sent Kermit Roosevelt over there and they overthrew him and then the next year they um because Dallas before he was at the CIA had been a lawyer at suvan Cromwell okay and texo is one of his clients his biggest client was United Fruit and the next year yakobo AR Ben um nationalized you know fruit in Guatemala and so they went down and overthrew him the next year and then then they overthrew multiple governments in the next two years in Syria and Iraq and you know all over the mides in order to control the oil now the incentive structure for overthrowing these governments is it always monetary in terms of businesses that have been you know purchased out there or there's investing interests in the business out there like it was in Guatemala or is part of d ization just like Global colonial power and this is how we need to keep things I mean it what David talber who wrote the best book about Dallas it's called Devil's chess board it's really riveting book if you start reading that book you will not put it down it's really it's so crazy but what he says in that book is that Dallas was incapable of distinguishing between American interests and the interests of the corporations who he had represented at suan gromwell he honestly believed that though whatever was good for us corporations yeah and you know the CIA still has I mean that's what it does it does regime change it mainly funnels the money through usaid which is a CIA puppet I mean they they overthrew the government of Ukraine in 2014 which is really what this war is about they spent $5 billion overthrowing that government and and putting in handb taking the US government which Victoria nulan who's the deputy secretary of state they they have her now you can go on and listen to this on the internet her giving orders of a a voice mail of her give a voice recording of her giving orders to the US ambassador of Ukraine a month before the coup in which she's picking the uh the cabinet the new cabinet so this you know uh obviously upset the Russians because they don't want us Weapons Systems in Ukraine okay that makes sense now did the Russians support the democratically elected government that the Americans overthrew and most most no no in uh in Ukraine oh in Ukraine before 2013 yeah I mean that like is it possible that they also Information Systems to prop up democratically elected but I mean is it is that in quotes democratically elected is it possible no the thing is that a large percentage of ukrainians are Russian are ethnic Russians soas lugan crime especially over there yeah 90% of the people there and when you know um uh when when after we overthrew their government and and you know started killing ethnic Russians killed 14 the new government killed 14,000 illegalized language killed 14,000 uh Russians and you know that's when Putin invaded Ukraine because I mean invaded Crimea because Crimea flat VTO is the biggest Russian Port it's the only warm water port and he saw okay they were going to invite the US Navy in there and take away our Port that's been ours for 347 years and um and that was you know untenable for their National Security I'm not defending Putin I don't think he's a good guy but I think it's important for Americans to understand our role and the provocations that led up to the war H what did you think of Putin by the way my son fought in that war oh really yeah what did you think of Putin's interview with with Tucker I thought it was fascinating yeah yeah elaborate on that what what like well I think I mean he didn't say anything that surprised me but he uh you know he just he talked about um I mean one thing he confirmed something that we already know which which is on two occasions they had made these uh very generous peace offers the Minsk agreement the first one was the Minsk courts and then again in April of 2022 and what he said is we signed that agreement and we you know the the major uh uh the major um objective for Russia was that time was making us not move NATO into Ukraine they don't want NATO there and that's really what this war is about and he said um he said I you know we signed the agreement and the the principal part of the agreement was that NATO would not go into Ukraine and I was withdrawing from Kev which we knew but he said as soon as I started withdrawing groups troops from Kiev um they double crossed us and you know Biden sent Boris Johnson over there to to force Alinsky to tear up the pce agreement and since then 450,000 Ukrainian kids have died in a war that should have never happened now who who's profiting from this war if if all of our well if you look why why did we want to extend NATO so you know in 1992 um when the Wall came down in Berlin um and the Soviet Union collapse gorbachov went to John Major in England and uh uh and Bush in the United States and said look I'm going to let you do something that that I'm never going to be able to go back to Russia because the Russian people are going to hate me so much I'm going to allow you to reunify Germany East and West Germany under a NATO Army I'm going to move out 450,000 Russian troops and I'm going to hand it over to you but I want one promise from you you will not move NATO to the east after that you'll be satisfied with that so five years L and they and James Baker famously who was the Secretary of State under Bush famously said promise gorbachov we will not move Nato one inch to the east but what happened 5 years later the neocons came into power and the US government led by Z big new brazinski and they published a plan saying we're going to surround Russia with NATO George Canon who's the most important Diplomat arguably in American history he was the architect of the containment policy during the Cold War said if you do that you're going to force a violent response to Russia why are you treating Russia as an enemy you should do a marshal plan with Russia bring them into the community of Nations why do you need a permanent enemy there just give you I'll give you I'm take a shortcut and tell you no no take as long as you want here one of the when when when we move when we bring a new nation into NATO mhm then the first part of that contract is that that new nation has to conform its um its weapons purchases to Nato specifications which means that they have to buy their weapons from North or Grumman dyamics Rocky Martin and all of those companies are owned by Black Rock and black rock is you know the big so they incentivized to expand NATO be is the only way that they can increase their profits if they get more countries that have signed up well it's a whole Market that they now have a trap Market that they can only buy from them it's like Starbucks selling Frappuccinos it's like you want Starbucks everywhere and the oh my God should be a Starbuck yes and break into New Market there's also you know it's a it's a it's a it's a Confluence of ideological and economic incentives that you know and and this seems like what is you know often happening in the United States where the the corporate interests match up with the geopolitical interests which are America wants to exert Force against our enemies and the corporations want to you know get as much profit as possible so they probably align themselves in that way and exactly could you argue that that is that does end up benefiting the American economy and I'm not necessarily like a trickle down guy say I'm not a trickle down guy but people who would believe that putting billions of dollars into corporations in America does end up benefiting the US citizens according to that line of thinking yeah it creates a lot of jobs in our country in one industry the fence industry um and you know that's now our biggest export around the world um does benefit us over the long run I would say no that you know we need to have we need to rebuild our industrial base and it allows the financialization of the American economy because the the economy is now no longer based upon industrial production or any kind of production is based upon speculation so everybody is if you look at what's happening on Wall Street they're no longer going Factory by Factory and saying what's the production what's the efficiency what's the lowest cost with the future they're all focusing on what is the Fed going to do this week yeah right and that's what everybody BS on and it's financialized their economy it sent all of their industry it's destroy abroad yeah it's destroy the American middle class and we do that by printing dollars you print uh $34 trillion do of dollars that you don't have why would the world even value them anymore and the reason that they continue to Value them is because our M we have 800 bases abroad and that kind of anchors this whole system the system is going to collapse it's not sustainable it is corrupt and uh it's not and it's already destroyed our moral Authority around the world and it now our influence around the world is this big compared to when I was a kid when we had moral suasion and we also had you know people wanted American leaders leadership now they they considered bullying and um and it's not sustainable you the the national debt is now just the service on the debt is now larger than our military budget but oh you knowest that and if interest R if interest rates raise service meaning the interest on the the interest of the de so yeah the V yeah so what you're pay what we're paying is bigger than 1.3 trillion dollar and if interest rates go up like if interest rates go double from let's say they go from 2% to 4% that interest rate that service doubles yeah so it goes from 1.3 trillion to 2.6 trillion and all you need you if you get up to the typical interest rates which are eight or 10% it's the entire every tax dollar collected in our country is going to service the debt that's happening right now and it's not you know it's not sustainable and all of that is attached to to the this you know the Warfare state do you think there's a path to Redemption and getting the sway that you had that the US had when you were a kid and if so what is it yeah I mean I think I I don't want to be you know plugging myself here at that point yeah I think if I'm elected we're going to how do you how do you reverse it I think first of all the world wants to say that you know America an America that they used to say which is an America that is a moral Authority America that's telling the truth to people on every issue an America that comes with a little bit of humility um that is not you know where I mean I'm going to I I'm going to stop the CIA from these regime change operations and say you know it's we we actually do support democracy we're not if somebody elects a leader they ought to be able to serve and and uh you know it's not the US choice to do that and you know I'll end that but I across the board I've the corporate corruption this corrupt merger of State corporate power happens within the agencies the agencies are now all have become sock puppets for the industries they're supposed to regulate and this is we had vivec on and he spoke about this he used the term managerial class yeah and I like the term Because deep state is this like nefarious entity but it's so conspiratorial that like I feel like people don't take it as serious as they should you kind of like write off the word deep State like what is a deep State I don't know who it is there yeah I don't use that term for that reason what would what is the term that you would use for it because I do think that you're tapping into a a feeling and sensation a lot of Americans have with their disillusion with government and the people in control and they feel like their desires are not being met by candidates it's probably why you've had so much success because you're speaking to a lot of the frustrations that Americans have yeah so what is that term that would use for the powers to be that are not elected but able to exert immense force and control I.E the people at the I think V's term is pretty good as a as a managerial class I mean there are entities within the government that uh you know are actually um dictating a lot of this stuff like whom um I would say probably most you know particularly with our foreign policy the Atlantic Council and the Atlantic Council has I mean just go look at who's on it there's six uh former CIA Chiefs on its on the Atlant Council but these are elected officials or no and who appoints them um they are in they are appointed by invitation who is inviting the the at Council what I'm trying to understand is like how do these positions of power uh where do they come from like who creates them how does the at Council even get power yeah what how does the Atlantic Council even get power can you just break this down for a simplest possible terms like how does this get started who starts it I mean you know I there are a lot of different centers of power and I'm just saying this is one of them because it really um everybody dictates US foreign policy and it dictates policy in NATO it's it you know these people all highly respected they tell the president oh yeah Vladimir Putin is a crazy person he's about to invade all of Europe we need to be over there and they uh and you know we need to go to war with him and they not only influence the US government but they uh they are the primary body that influences NATO there's other things that counts on foreign relation ations um and then there are panels you know across the government that are made up of um of Industry people people within who are you know who have uh and you can look at them any every agency you know in in FDA it's called verac and CDC is called ASAP the advisory committee on immunization practices and if you look at the people who on it they're all people who are profiting from you know this uh not from making people healthier but from making you know from a sick country a country that's constantly at War and a country that is doing the opposite of what it's ideal say it's supposed to be doing how would you stop corporate influence in Government institutions well the the the worst thing that happened in terms of corporate influence was the citizens united case and it's hard to fix that and just so that you know what citizens united is there was we lost democracy at one point in our history in the 1880s and 1890s you had our country was being run by a corporate plutocracy and it was John de Rockefeller the melons the cornes the Fricks the Whitney and they all sat on interlocking boards for the sugar trust the rail trust the steel trust the oil Trust Etc and at that time there was no direct election of senators so the senators were not chosen by the public they were chosen by the legislatur the legislator were completely owned the state legislatures by Congress I mean by these in fact it was said that the only legislature that you could not purchase that could not be purchased was the Pennsylvania state legislature because John de Rockefeller owned them all and he wasn't selling any wow and and so they would then pick the Senators and the everybody from top to bottom was chosen by this group didn't Rockefeller like bail out the entire country with like a check didn't you tell me the story one of these guys like the US needed money and he was like yeah I'll just write you a check the different time but uh maybe during uh I think a bunch of them actually came together this is before this is during right before the Great Depression they just dumped a bunch of money in the stock market to try to regulate it but different than what we're talking about but go on go on um so uh so then you had a Confluence of these extraordinary events that happened you had the rise in the countryside the populist movement which is democ can I just say one thing real quick so when you have these people the billionaires the aristocracy owning the legislative branch they're dictating the laws in the country essentially yeah they were dictating the laws and they were also dictating the Personnel but I I'll just do this very briefly I mean you had two big movements that happened one was Republican one was Democrat populist in the country side they organizing Farmers which were then a huge part of the population the progressives in the city and you had all suddenly appear all these mck raking journalists who really changed America Ida Tarbell opton Sinclair Sinclair Lewis and many others they were writing for a magazine called mcclures and they started doing exuses on John de Rockell and all the other robber parents and America everybody was reading the those magazines everybody the whole middle class was reading it and there's a sense of indignation and then you had one guy came along Teddy Roosevelt who is a member of the AR plutocracy and he wasn't intimidated by him and he got elected president and started to dismantle him and they passed the Sherman anti trust act and he broke up the Standard Oil the biggest company in the world yeah yeah they passed the 40-hour work week they let unions start to organize they pass the they gave women the vote they uh they uh they passed frustrating uh corporate income tax for the first time they pass graduated income tax for the first time the most important bill they pass was in in 1908 they passed a law that made it illegal for corporations to give to federal or the federal political candidates so that stood for 102 years and then Citizens United and then citizens united this very business friendly Supreme Court in 2010 came and said a court that that donations are free speech yeah they're P they're protected by the First Amendment and you can't do anything to interfere with them and that's the court we got today yeah so it's really hard to fix that part of it you know which is the systemic part because it unleash the suami so I'm running against Biden and Trump and both of them are going to have to billion dollar so just to clarify why this is difficult you have a situation before where these billionaires or corporations if you will the owners of these corporations are dictating the the laws because they own the legislative branch of government they own Congress right uh Teddy dismantles it 102 years later citizens united essentially allows corporations to fund candidates and now it's almost impossible to beat a corporately funded candidate so so you're basic you're back in the same system that Teddy had to break real quick question about Teddy is that why Teddy kind of has a shaky reputation historically like if they tied to smear him a little bit like he's some weirdo that likes to go out to where was it hang out in the forest for months at a time I think he's actually you know according to public polls one of the most uh popular Presidents in history I mean there's progressives don't like him of course because he was a warmonger and he was an American imperialist and he you know he bullied his way around you know the Philippines the you know built the the uh Panama Canal and you know and then sent and then took over Cuba right he he was the one you know they sent people down to help with the Cuban uh uh Insurrection against Spain but in the end he told the Cubans oh and by the way we're keeping Guantanamo Bay which is your biggest Port that's how we got Guantanamo Bay shut up and the uh and you know he did the same thing he took over the Philippines and uh and Guam and and so people think of him 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well you know after they get old and retire or die and new ones come on and say yeah this is is not a good system and you know speed the First Amendment does not uh protect legalized briber which is what a campaign donation is now let's say for example we strip it down get rid of it tear it up and each citizen can only donate up to $10,000 to a candidate or whatever that number is we can adjust that number uh doesn't that incentivize the wealthy to run because now they can spend their own money whereas some poor who wants to be president doesn't have it and he has to hope he's getting all these donations yeah I mean yeah so the the system's never going to be perfect but I'd rather guy run and say hey I'm financing myself I own myself than being owned by the corporations in and you don't even know who owns them I mean they it's been suggested that they they should uh you know politicians should have to wear those those coveralls that they wear in the nasar RAC you have the logos of the yeah that's are you financing your own campaign no so who's in your you think Cheryl would still be mad all right so what oh yeah here you go okay you know the campaign itself is financed by small donations the maximum donation is $6,600 and uh and those are hard to raise I'm competing against the White House the Democratic and and the r DNC and the RNC and they can take essenti I think $250,000 their minimums oh you know I'm at a big disadvantage and fundraising um but uh there's also a couple of super packs and the super packs that support me I'm not allowed to you know coordinate with them but they've raised a lot of I think one of my super packs has maybe raised 70 million bucks you explain what a super pack is what they did is they said okay Federal you can't donate directly to a federal political candidate the maximum for that is 6,600 but you can donate to an entity which is called a pack or a Super Pac and you can donate unlimited to them and they can help on the campaign but they're not allowed to talk to you about how they're going to help so you can't coordinate with the justification for that I guess it's uh it's supposed to be a place where it's I mean none of it makes sense but I I guess the best justification is that if you if you're very rich and you want a certain person to win you ought to be able to promote their candidacy without giving them money and you know I don't know uh commercials for you or something they just yeah they buy in fact the Super Bowl commercial was purchased by my super pack oh wow so I didn't you know Cheryl and I were sitting watching the Super Bowl with my kids you didn't know that commercial was going to happen no wow how bizar I heard her let out a Yelp my son said something and I looked up you know and cuz it was an ad so I was I was looking at my phone yeah and then I heard both of them uh you know sort of make these surprise shouts and then looked up and saw the ad and now do you have to you have to live with whatever they say about you I guess yeah I mean but usually the super pack is going to say much nicer things about me than you know the Democrats or Republicans right okay and now that youve run the the DNC now has a van that follows me around that has Billboards on this you know those moving billboards yeah yeah so they who's more corrupt the DNC or the RNC yeah I I'd probably equally corrupt and I don't know I I I don't even know how the metric by which you would measure that but they're all I mean the DNC is really misbehaving they're really trying to block people yeah they try to block you right they try to block me they they try to block Trump I'm not a fan of Trumps but I want to be on a on a on an a level you know Battlefield with him I don't want to beat him because a court threw him out I want to beat him because I'm able to make the argument to the American people that I should be president and I have a debate and that kind of stuff I I don't think it's good for our country I don't think it's good for the DNC I think this persecution that the DNC has leveled that people see that as un Fair Americans just physically are saying this guy is being attacked and they're you know it's moving huge numbers of Voters over to him because they're pissed at what the DNC is doing yeah it's also terrible for America who are supposed to be the exemplary democracy in around the world this what they do in you know in banana republics yeah you don't want to run against the guy because he's popular so you get a judge to throw them out it's a great comparison and you know it's not it's not America and you know they're doing the same thing to me they're trying to make sure that nobody can vote for me rather than having B President Biden come out and say Here's why I think I should be good president yeah and here's why I think you shouldn't be and let's have that discussion yeah not just say you know you're not going to let me on the ballot you're not going you're going to disenfranchise Americans so they can't talk to Democrats kind of seem from a distance more crooked is the Republicans didn't seem to want Trump in 2016 they could not stop him in the primary he just destroyed everybody it seemed like on the flip side with Hillary and with you in 2024 it's like we don't want this guy this person to win Bernie in 2016 you in 2024 we're just going to have super delegates and then we're going to get our person in there and that's what it's going to be elimin I I think that's right and also the fact that he won't give me Secret Service protection you know that's another kind of weaponization of federal agencies help guy got T Cruz's nephew back I'm just joking he's trapped right very like you look nothing like him you look nothing like him at all he's making sure you guys don't make a Lun CH but um yeah you know I have Gavin debecker um Associates who's who's giving me protection it's really you know good but very expensive so a third one out of every $3 I raise is is going to to you know to this and it's not it's not fair I could be using that you know I should be able to use that to make the argument okay um your last name Kennedy one of like the American dynasties I feel like most Americans maybe most people around the world very familiar with it uh what are the benefits and what are also like not what are the benefits what are the rules of being a Kennedy are there rules is there like a culture that you all have to live by that's a great is there a way to behave like what what is the yeah I mean I think we were all raised in a milu where um you know we have expectations of each other that you're going to you know try to do something good for other people you know and you know many of my cousin there were 29 cousins 29 grandchildren of Joe Rose Kennedy and most of us were raised during the Camelot era and you know I think that really sort of dictated a lot of our worldview and our lives we all all I think were raised with this attitude that our lives would be consumed by some great controversy and that it would be a big privilege for us um to be able to play a a role in fication role in that um you know I um of course all you know everybody's lives diverge and I've got members of my family now who do not like the fact that I'm running against President Biden I have five members of my family who work for the administration or closely with the administration and you know President Biden has a bless of my father behind him at the in the Oval Office he's been a long-term friend of my family so I have there are people people in my family are not excited about that but you know I think generally we all you know we were raised arguing with each other my father would come home in the evenings from the justice department and he would set up debates at the dinner table and we would have to argue a point my grandfather did that to his nine children and that you know we argue with each other without hating the person you know which I think is a good thing for the country to be a one thing I really admire I'm even listening to you talk I don't agree with everything you say but you surround yourself with people who don't agree with it Cheryl will publicly say she disagrees with you about X Y and Z you say on this pod my kids think I'm a c sometimes like I really think that is a thing that is missing from the spirit of America right now and I think it's very cool that you are so open to people disagreeing with you I mean I argued about my with my son on Ukraine you know from the beginning and he just he pushed back on me and then you know he put his money where his mouth was and went over there and joined the Foreign Legion and he fought the car offensive and you know I'm I'm lucky that he came back alive but you know he I I raised the kids and my grandfather raised his kids in fact my grandfather um sent his kids over to London School of Economics to study on a guy under a guy called Harold lasy who was regarded as the greatest socialist philosopher of the time and my grandfather hated him and hated socialism but he wanted his children to be exposed to different ways of thinking and to be able to do critical thinking themselves and you know they traveled around Europe they went to Spain during the Spanish Revolution they went to Hitler's Germany um and they uh you know and he wanted them to be exposed to every kind of thought and he believe he loved our country country because in our country you're everything's supposed to be done by debate and the the best ideas the ones that become policy are ideas that have triumphed in the marketplace of ideas and you know in in the and KN in the in the furnace of debate and that's really important for democracy because democracy is actually a very inefficient system you know it takes a lot of effort to get anything done and so totalitarian systems a big advantage on us and the one advantage that we have is that this open ferment of debate 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like it's pretty crazy you know what I mean that is a nice move what jail then Harvard was I'm fairly certain no no you went to you got like kicked out of some boarding schools and then you went to I went to prison for I spent the summer of 2001 in I'm acent of security prison in Puerto Rico so I have been to jail oh hell yeah but you know my my father you know um you in his presidential campaign he he did something that hadn't that everybody thought was impossible which was to unite uh white workingclass Americans and middle class Americans with the with the poor with uh people of color with American Indians with Cesar Chavez um and with uh and with Urban blacks and you know when I was a kid my father would take us whenever we traveled anywhere he'd always take us to an Indian Reservation nearby U when we went to appal Asia he he'd take us to place where there was a lot of poverty on weekends he'd take us a drive a drive through Southeast Washington and he would say to us um these are these are our people these are Kennedy people these the um the the wealthy people in this country they don't need a a politician or lawyer or anything else they don't need the kennedies they already have the system rigged and he said these are your people and you know my father would come back he came back one time from Mississippi and we were all sitting at dinner and he came back and he said to us today I saw a family I visit a family who was there were two families living in a house smaller than this dining room and they were and they have all the children have only one meal a day and he said when you get older I want you to help those people and so that was kind of a message that you know that was part of I think all of our growing up there an expectation of benevolence you're going to help somebody who's less fortunate like you know my aunt a unish dri found Special Olympics her son uh Anthony Shriver who very a strong supporter of my campaign is running my campaign in Florida was the founder of best bodies which helps people with intellectual disabilities unite them with college kids another of his brothers runs UNICEF another of his brothers run to save the children and you know you go through my family and most of them are doing things like that where they're where they're you know doing things to stand up for the most vulnerable alienated dispossessed people in the society and and bring them into the American Experience that's awesome and they keep trying to kill you guys what the is this about well that's that's a question I have you firmly believe the CIA killed your uncle killed your father and I was saying you know my father the the the abundance of evidence of my my uncle's death the CIA was involved I think it's beyond any dispute if I were a prosecutor I feel I could win that case without doing any further Discovery just cuz my with my father I always assumed that Siran killed my father Siran confessed to the crime confessed to killing him there were 77 eyewitnesses in the room and um you know and so I didn't think there was any question and then a guy called Paul who is one of my father's close friends he was a deputy director of the United Auto Workers he had brought say recruited Cesar Chavez into the laboring movement he was standing next to my father the night that my father was killed and he took the first bullet so he got shot in the head by Siran Siran was waiting at a steam table and my father was brought through the kitchen where he was not scheduled to go and Siran fired two shots of my father the first one hit pul in the head the second one hit a door jam behind my father the the wooden frame of the door the LAPD later took it out of that you know removed it then he was grabbed by six men including uh raer Johnson who is the uh 1960 Deaton Champion one of my father's best friends Rosie Greer who was part of the Fearsome foresome um and uh and three other guy or four other guys they they binned him against the steam table and they took his gun hand and they put it pushed it away from my father pointing the opposite way MH but Ray for Johnson later told me he was trying to pry the gun out of sirens and Sirens this little guy when I met him in prison he I the first thing that impressed me is how tiny and frail he looked but raer Johnson said that he had superhuman strength and he then fired off six more shots and empty the chamber but exactly the opposite direction of my father and all of those shots hit people so we know what happened to every bullet in his gun he was always in front of my father and uh never got behind him but the bullets that killed my father according to Thomas nagi's autopsy report Thomas naguchi was the most important coroner in American history and my father's autopsy is called the perfect autopsy cuz naguchi knew that what had happened in Dallas with my uncle with the autopsy was completely botched and so he wanted to make sure nobody you know to avoid all that Crim so he flew in the chief coroner of all the armed service every branch of the armed service and a lot of other famous coroners and they all sat in the theater and watched him perform the autopsy and what his autopsy found is my father was shot four times from behind never from in front the shots one of the shot passed heartlessly through his shoulder pad the other three two lodged his back the other one was right behind his ear and that in each case they were contact shots meaning the barrel of the gun was touching his skin or half an inch from it and they left carbon tattoos and they all had an upward angle so that whoever was doing it was standing behind my father and the and holding the gun not directly at him like that but at angle where you could keep him closer so it was almost like and the guy who was in that position is a guy called Eugene th sayar and he was a security guard who was hired two days before when my father's schedule was already known so now he's walking through his kitchen which he shouldn't be walking through he's got this security guy he grabbed the security guard is the guy who steered him into the Ambush he had my father's um elbow and he was he was directing him and then you know Siran starts firing my father then falls back and he lands on Cesar Cesar and wait Eugene is what's his last name Eugene Cesar fan Cesar F yeah and my father must have known he was being shot from behind because the last thing he did is rotate and turn and pull off the clip on tie that says on WOW if you see the original early pictures before my mother took that out and put a Rosary in his hand I um he originally he has that tie in his hand and there's pictures of Cesar from that night that don't have a tie on Cesar Cesar was um was seen by all the eyewitnesses with his gun drawn when he pushed my father off if he had his gun drawn he was asked by the police why why did you have your gun drawn and he said I was shooting at Siran but there's no evidence of that and then he was caught in multiple multiple lies about what he did with the gun that the police did not take the gun from him that night oh he was there was a gun that was fired at the scene and the police did and the police did not take it and and they you know the police also destroyed all the photos before trial they collected every photo take in that room 2200 photos and destroyed them all who who hired Eugene hired by company called a security but he had a real job his real job was at the Boeing plant and he had a high security clearance he was allowed in the top secret parts of Plan before that he had worked for 's engineering which you know Howard Used was very much you know the people the guy Robert Mayu who is his Deputy was deeply involved in the Kennedy the JFK assassination now here's what happens next a guy shows up as Eugene as suran's lawyer it's an attorney who is at that point involved in the Friar's Club case do you know what the Friar's Club is it's a it's a club the friar Club in New York but the the original one is in LA and it's it was famous because the Rat Pack Joey Bishop NRA all of those guys Sammy Davis Dean Mar Martin were all members and it was run by Mickey Cen who's the mafia Chief and Johnny roselli who was relli was the Cuba guy he was the liaison yeah and so uh and so they we need the red string they have a lawyer and the wall full of pictures their lawyer or uh Mickey Cohen's lawyer is shows up he Mick Cohen is Alcatraz right he's the guy is the mafia boss boss in La yeah you been in a bunch of movies yeah yeah okay wow wow and he uh and the lawyer is now has been indicted because in the Fri the friar Club they they it turns out that the mafia had secret uh recording they they had they had television they had cam in the on the roof of the F club and they were looking at everybody's cards and fixing the games and it's a famous trial that took you know many weeks La in that trial it comes out that the defense the mob lawyers had obtained the grand jury testimony which is completely illegal you go to jail for a long time for that oh this attorney was charged with that he's so he's under a lot of stress he's Char he's trying the case for the mafia that he doesn't want to lose and he's charged with stealing the grand jury testimony and he somehow finds time to show up and represent Siran so he goes so he's San's lawyer so you think and he tells Siran you got to plead guilty and then he buries all of the forensic evidence all the ballistic evidence which if if there's no way Saran could have been convicted because the gun the bullets that were in my father did not match the bullets that were in other people they didn't come from the same 13 shots fired sirin's gun only holds eight exactly so we know that there it's not like he's reloading there's recordings there's audios of it you know of the 13 shots wow so this is anyway it's a lot of circumstantial evidence it's not the kind of evidence I think that's it is with your uncle you think un it's just black and white but with my father is circumstantial so you cannot definitively say but you can say there's a lot of you know there's a lot of wa why is it so black and and white with I hate to move oh you know what I it would take me three days to go through the evidence you know to even give you tip of the iceberg people who wanted who are genuinely curious about my uncle's assassination the CIA involvement should read a book there are many books but I think the best one is a book called the Unspeakable by Jim ugas and what he's done is he's taken this mountain of evidence and he's distilled it all and it's riveting it's very very easy to read and it's it's really fascinating and uh you know I think it's impossible to read that book and come away without um thinking that you know the CIA killed JFK okay uh is it possible that any kind of mind altering experiments or substance were used in both cases like you've heard of MK Ultra oh yeah well MK oh that's interesting that you say that because cuz didn't Siran say that he he he believes that he was um hypnotized and and the and the defense even the uh San Quenton psychiatrist defense and prosecution scientist Al it was hypnotized and I'm not arguing this because I really don't know I'm just saying that there's a lot of fishy stuff about this but there's a guy called Dan Martin who teaches at Harvard Medical School got him you you got it and uh and he is the world's expert on hypnosis and he's been in to hypnotize Siran many many many times and he said there I've talked to him he said there's four classes of of people in hypnosis I don't know any of this but I I think it's number one is the people who simply cannot be hypnotized and then four is people who are the easiest HZ and he told me this he said San's like 4.9 and he said that um that when he goes into Siran he takes out he takes out a coin and shows it to Siran and S immediately goes out and he he said his his head flips back and snot starts poing out of his nose so his infal and his eyes roll up and then he gives them a potic suggestion and they suggestion for example he'll say to him when I you know after I wake you up if I ever show you a handkerchief I want you to climb on the roof of this cell then he'll wake him up and um and he will uh he'll he'll wait a while and he'll he'll fool with a handkerchief and Siran will start climbing on this cell but if you he said if you ask Siran why are you doing that he said I just need the exercise he'll deny that he's been hypnotized so I again I'm not this gets really deep into sort of conspiracy and I am not arguing that this happen saying these things are also true what you're saying these things are also so true these are true and you can make of them what you will but um and there's a lot of other you know really I mean really interesting parts of the story that are you know that are fishy and it's not circumstantial to you it's black and white I could prove this in a court of law if given the opportunity well Sur no Sur is totally to me it's all circumstantial there is no you no confessions none of that but with with um with my Uncle I don't I I think it's black and white are you scared at all you do get into power that this same and that was my circumstance will happen to you well I'm not scared but I'm also not stupid about it I know that what I'm doing is you know challenging trillions of dollars of of financial interest and and power interest C specifically which you know yeah the CIA you know other interest to oh I know you know and so I'm not stupid I take precautions I do things that I don't want to do you know I don't you know I like for example well I don't like a guy following me when I go to the bathroom right right and I I want to get out and you know if there's people in a supermarket you know I I have these arguments with my team all the time I said I wanted to go out you know they had this big van I gave a speech down in in bedy this week two days ago and there was a van outside that the DNC is paying to that has you know uh that has Slanders about me you know running in in lights it's one of those moving Billboards that is constantly changing I want to go outside and talk to the driver and also get my picture taken in front of the van right and the and they say no to that yes my security team wouldn't let me do that there's certain things they say you can't do that and I I I got to do what they tell me to do because otherwise they'll pull it do you have to do they charge you extra because you're like a high-risk like Assassin no you know Gavin de Becker would give it to me for free right he loves me and he um but I'm saying the security guys he's very supportive and he runs the company but he can't cuz I can't take anything for free so I have to pay the full fair so that's what I'm doing wow nobody can give it to me for free what what happened to this guy Eugene the the security guard it's interesting he went to and the whole story is fascinating because actually Siran worked at a track that apparently was it was I think it was in the name of Dina deenis but the true owner was Mickey Cohen and he worked at horse track and that horse track they were um the stable boys and the Walker he was a walker he' never been on a horse before and the trainers were all experimenting with hypnosis on their lunch breaks their their different breaks so they were all you know hypnotizing each other and you know who knows what happened maybe it was a screening you know issue there but I'll just tell you one other interesting you mentioned MK Ultra one of the the hospitals that apparently was used them K was a I think it was a naval base there was Naval infir in Pasadena sir one day they said there we want you to get on the horse he' never been on any horse and they were going to put him on a thorough bread and have him raced around a quarter mile track obviously he falls off he hits that on the rail he's brought to the Pasadena Hospital get the out of and he his memory is that he stayed in that hospital for 3 months but when his appeals attorney went to the hospital and got his records it said he got four stitches and was discharged in an hour wow and he has very Vivid memories of what took place in this hospital he said there were other people from the track who were also there that had bandages on their heads again this is stuff he says and you know I'm not assigning any credibility to it I'm just it's part of this you know this uh it's part of this you know a lot of the questions I would like to ask people that were never asked of people there's a lot of women that complain about gaslighting from their boyfriends yeah nobody has been gas lit more than the Kennedy family I mean how do you stay sane like there is one narrative that is constantly being pushed out in media in film in television and then there's another completely plative plausible narrative that you and your family are investigating my family is not investigating my family does not want anything to do with they just accept it you know it was so shattering to my siblings and to my you know and if you you not around when when we were kids but um for for maybe 20 years this br films were played almost as a loop on you watch and my and when those came on in my house all the TVs were turned off people were everybody was so devastated by this and they don't want to you know nobody's bringing nothing you do is going to bring my father back nothing is going to bring my uncle back my father when he the first day when my uncle was killed I came home from school my mother picked us up early and my father was walking in the yard with John mccom who's the head of the CIA and he was the first person to get over there cuz CIA is only half a mile from my house and mcom used to come there every afternoon and swim in the pool but that as soon as the first thing they they did my my dad did when he learned that his brother when J go over told him his brother was shot he on the telephone as he called up the CIA and said the desk the desk off officer and said did your people do this wow he asked the same question to John mome John mome you know had been Pro my uncle had fired Alan dullas and Richard Bissell and Charles Cabell the guys who had orchestrated the Bay of Pigs because they lied to him and he said I want to take the CIA and shatter it into a thousand pieces and Scatter it to the winds he fired them and they brought in my my uncle originally wanted my father to run the CIA cuz he thought it's so it's such a mess and only Bobby can fix it my grandfather had stepped in and said you can't do that you can't have your brother running the spy agency is like Stalin and Molotov you can't have the brother of a president United running yeah it's just terrible optics for the whole world you don't want that smart so they brought in John mcon who was like a republican business guy very Pious Catholic and he ran it but nobody ever told him anything thing so you know the the whole sort of bureaucracy that's under he doesn't know what's going on and then my father then called a one of the Cuban uh b a pig leaders a guy called Harry Ruiz who was very close to my family and I was in a hotel room in Washington DC with a famous writer who wrote the book on the Bay of Pigs and my father um said to him did your guys do this so that was his first instinct and that you know he then didn't talk about it until a week before his election he refused to talk about it but you would ask about but and my family is still that way they're still in shock they're still PTSD in my family from what I I mean we're all there watched my dad die you know a bunch of us kids were there and watch him be you know in Los Angeles that night I you know I was with my dad when he died and the it's you know it just is it's too much and they don't want to go into it so you asked about Eugene then say it I I got in contact with him and this is like three years ago and I said will you talk to me he's in the Philippines and I said and he said uh uh he said that through an intermediary he said that he would and I had to pay him $10,000 mother so I said okay I'll do that and I want to interview you on a on video and he said for $10,000 and then I was getting ready to leave and they told me now it's 15,000 and then basically the day before I was going to the airport he said now it's 25,000 so then I said okay this is a setup yeah yeah he you along then yeah so then he died about a year ago of who knows it's very hard to find out he in the Philippines wow and he fled to the Philippines immediately after not immediately you know he he's kind of got an interesting background besides being a um you know having this High Intelligence classification at a series of military of the top military contractors and if you're you know those military contractors a lot of people who work for them are CIA so you have to they're either CIA assets or agents you have to sign in order to work there in order to get the classification you have to sign a state secrecy agreement which makes you basically a lifetime CIA asset and so and he identified himself there's a writer called Lisa peas who really did a deep dive into him and at one point he identified himself as a CIA agent and that's in her book and so I I uh he also was extremely rightwing and he independent of any intelligence um connections that he had he hated my father because he thought if my father was elected president he was going to put the blacks in charge of our country was that his plan he yeah that was that was I could finally come clean about that how do I like that guy between you and man it's just remarkable man wow it's just yeah I mean it's a lot to digest we need to have the we need to have the three-day Deep dive on your uncle when well you read that book yeah I'm going to check it out that's a really good book and then the other one by talbet you said by David talet David talbet wrote two fantastic books one about my my father and uncle and the CIA but the one that you should read is Devil's chessboard at least first and that is about just this biography of uh of Dallas and if you want to talk about like you know like uh you know a super villain yeah you know likes Luther that's that's the guy when you when you met with Siran that in prison did you this is the man that allegedly killed your father that's what the record says did you feel oh he was definitely involved in the Ambush did you feel he was guilty when you met him did you feel like he was remorseful what did you feel like his energy was well first of all he's a very gentle soul right he was very humble and he and um he cried know and he and he also said he cried and he held both my hands and he just and put my hands to his forehead and say thank you thank you for coming here every time I saw your your mom on TV with all of you guys I would it would make me cry so you know he was uh um it it was an interesting conversation you know he had a Fascination he he came from Palestine incidentally you know when when he when the the the M my dad was killed he was facing the death penalty and my family all signed a letter to judge Walker saying please don't give him the death penalty H and then I think three years later my brother Joe was hijacked he was uh he he was on a plane coming back from Pakistan and Palestinians uh Black September group hijacked the plane and they tried to land in Aman and Jordan and they King us wouldn't let them and so then they landed in the desert in yon and they demanded the release of Saran initially and then they they blew up the plane and burned it but they ultimately released my brother um but uh you know I you know I feel like um uh people deserve justice no matter who they are yeah and you know and sir you know I'm curious about what happened with my dad and you know San was just he was he was interesting it was very very interesting he you know he came over here as a refugee and really had nothing but he was he loved horses from when he was little he never was on a horse the only time he was on a horse was that time they put him on a horse but he became a horse walker at this track but you weren't mad because like you know he was involved in the plot you know I um I I I try to forgive people and I you know Siran for a couple of reasons Siran was in jail for 60 years I don't think anger or resentments are a good thing I think that they're corrosive to your soul I think you know having anger resentment carrying that around against another human being is like swallowing poison and hoping someone else will die and you're letting other people live in your head rentree and you're giving them power over your life so you know the best way to escape from you know that kind of corrosive force is to pray for people and forgive them and so I don't yeah I don't uh carry resentments or anger toward him and um but also I don't believe that his bullets killed my dad yeah and I think if my dad were around my dad really um you know the Arc of all his whole career was to Justice and you know there's a little brown guy in jail who didn't get a proper trial for 60 years and I think my father would at least you know would not like that wow best book on your granddad uh well I think the book I wrote which is American values is the best thing to read about my grandpa and there's a chapter on him in there that answers a lot of these these questions and it's easier it's easy to read and um it's the first I think it's the first chapter in the book um the the the major work that's been done on my grandfather that is the you know the kind of the definitive if you want to read a big research it's called the patriarch yeah I have yeah yeah yeah um and do you think that's sorry just do you think it's a fair take on him or do you think I think it's pretty fair I you know I don't like it completely but it does exonerate him from being a bootlegger got you okay you know it doesn't he didn't know uh what's his name David the guy who wrote the book He's written a few of these yeah he didn't you know he was not as I think he missed a lot a big part of the story because he was not aware of the bad feelings you know between my family and and the CIA he he knew the incidences but he didn't know what was happening in the agency yeah wow so through everything that you've been through all the trauma that you face as a kid experiencing all these horrible events you still have a desire to serve the American people and to wake up every day whether it's through environmentalism whether it's through you know politics do you ever get the feeling of just giving up do you ever just say you know what all this I'm not I'm not dealing with this what all these people say I'm smeared by the media just go to hell with all of it do you ever feel that and now I don't because you know what are we here for right I mean it's not just to make a big pile for ourselves and whoever dies with the most stuff wins you know there's got to be a uh you know um there's got to be a reason I think anything that is worthwhile is you have to struggle for I mean I look back I read a lot of history and everybody that I've admired throughout human history with there's you know Alexander the Great to mellan to you know they've all been through a struggle where they were disavowed by everybody that they knew and where they had to kind of walk through a valley of death where they were completely alone and you know that is one of the things that made their lives worthwhile all the incoming flak that I get you know I try to look at that as a gift and say you know the harder this is the you know the more important it is and and and if you look at it that way you can change your attitude towards it you don't ever feel um oppressed by it I I think that the most paralyzing thing that people that really disables a lot of people is a sense of victimization and self-pity and that U you know I when I I got sober four years ago but at one point I I said um I was uh I heard my myself complaining about something and I thought you know that's kind of a natural reaction for me that if somebody ask me how you doing that I'll share some you know bad thing that happened to me recently or something so I said I'm going to experiment which is not complaining about anything for Lent and it was right at the beginning of Ash Wednesday I went uh for 40 days and I just didn't complain so if somebody asked me how are you doing I always sayg great and then what I would do because I don't want to lie I'd say well why am I feeling great I'm feeling great because I'm an American at a time in history when most of people in this country live like Gods compared to everybody other person in history I I live at a time when there's antibiotics I'd be dead if it weren't for antibiotics um there I can get orange juice whenever I want it I can get you know there's glass in front of me when I drive so the bugs don't come in my eyes and I think of all these like little things that okay I'm grateful for and then I make that Li and I I feel differently about life I'm processing life differently processing experience differently in a way that lifts my mood and makes me feel grateful gratitude ultimately is a choice you know so at the end of 40 days I just said this is really working for me and so since then I've never complained about anything in my life nothing and uh I have my son Connor when I was about uh when he was I don't know he was like 14 years old and he said to me hey Dad how come I've never heard you complain about anything and I said to him it's actually not a natal impulse for me my you know my atavistic impulse is to complain about a lot of stuff and I told him the story that I you know that I just made a decision and that it really worked out for me and after that I never heard him complain in his whole life and he's went through a lot of like nightmare stuff and but everybody loves him because he just has a buy and attitude and never complains about anything so I think it's a I recommend it I think it's a a really good way to live your life and to forgive people who you know who wrong you and I've had people do things I could walk around with Justified anger if I I have things that I could justify if I wanted to be if I let myself be angry you're giving other people control over your mind and you know um over your over your day and uh uh so when it comes to complaints it's about personal situations like obviously You' have gripes with the American system and you have the gripes with government and you feel comfortable pushing back against those things if I see something wrong yeah I'm not going to say look what they're doing to me you know they're treating me it's not about you it's about something bigger than yourself yeah uh listen we we've been uh informed that you have a busy day obviously you're running for president you got other things to do than hang out with us and tell us awesome stories but I just want to say thank you so much for coming on the show it's been absolutely amazing thank you guys yeah just really cool just great to hear your perspective on all these things and it's great to hear yeah I wish you the best of luck man I really do wish you the best of luck this is really awesome yeah I don't know what's going to happen in this election you know I don't even know if Biden's running I don't know what's going on I genuinely the two people you have Trump and you have Biden right I don't know if Biden makes it to the election and I don't know if they'll allow Trump to do it so you might be president by default a very real that's my only issue with you I wish you were like 95 years old we need you to be I wish you were a little old that's kind of what I look for in president 100 years old anyway so uh please tell them I know that they can go to Kennedy 24.com if they want to support support your campaign if they want to learn more about you obviously you got tons of books that we've mentioned here we'll put some links in but is there anything else that you want to tell the people uh kenned 24.com we have to get on we have to get uh almost a million signatures to get on the ballot in 50 states so whether you whether you uh are going to vote for me or not it's good for democracy to Choice I'm going to put my signature on there today yeah when you dropping your sneakers oh yeah Trump got a sneaker you need see you need a nice boat shoe a Kennedy boat Kenedy boat flam oh yeah yeah topsider dude let's go yeah I need to get on that guys thank you so much man that's RFK

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Published: Wed Mar 06 2024