The Hacienda - The Club that Shook Britain (BBC Documentary 2022)

[Music] [Music] it was a real Indie kid and I just loved music and then the Hacienda opened it was like a spaceship Landing in this gray City [Music] we were trying to introduce to Manchester a whole new way of thought and a way of living [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] we weren't earning a lot of money from New Order because most of it was going in the Hacienda so we just rent a seller a few bands in two tables no brain how hard can it be and then all [ __ ] hell brought loose it was just beautiful a lot of white guys who couldn't dance it didn't matter anymore you don't need to be able to dump you can just do that and throw your arms [Music] it felt like it was breaking boundaries it was a revolution and it was a revolution on a dance floor nobody would settle for going home at two o'clock in the morning anymore everybody thinks everybody's amazing and everything is amazing but truly one [ __ ] term really described that time it was amazing in the early 80s in Manchester it was very dull there was nowhere to go to I wasn't a person who went to pubs or anything like that you just went through these doors and there was this bright space it was the brightest building I'd ever been in it was just absolutely incredible and I just thought yeah I really want to be involved in this place the opening night was really stressful we were trying to get the place finished the blow around the dance floor it was just painted it was still very wet I wish you so we had planks going across and we were literally walking the planks we had Bernard money I honestly I'm not just saying it now I didn't bought Bernard [Music] I turned up in these Rolls-Royce came on told a few jokes which no one laughed at really and then afterwards he said to keep the money you'll need it for this [ __ ] foreign there was a bricks and mortar version of what thatchy records itself was the one of the key record labels that came out of punk rock and driven by the vision of Tony Wilson Tony why bother to create the Hacienda why bother was it's necessary for any period to build its Cathedrals it's necessary for any youth culture to have a sense of place it's necessary for a city like Manchester to have the facilities that New York and Paris have a lot to have the facilities at New York and Paris have for the young people here will be a disgrace [Music] and we found ourselves financially in the position that being the only people who were able to do something about it the underache records is really sparked into Life by Joy Division which is one of the first signings today created a new sound and a new style which became part of the foundations of the idea of the Hacienda foreign [Music] you were best friends from 11 years old when punk came along I took Bernard to see the Sex Pistols on the way out I said we should form a van I became a drummer a bunch of my parents to let me play the drums which is takes a bit of battery and then I saw an advert saying drama wanted for local band it'll be a laugh if nothing else we advertised for a singer Ian's band folded and we just met him who used to say it was you sound like Manchester that's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard in your life how can you sound like a place well kind of now I get it I mean the first album that we did like on unpleasures it sounds like how Manchester looked something really started happening when we met two people [Music] tonight's two major areas of concern for a start the world of do-it-yourself which we show you how to uh do it yourself oh everything you want to do all on the campus Manchester University I met Tony and on the Telly like everybody else you know he was a TV star totally maintained this double life one level he works at Grenada he was on the Telly every five minutes and on the other hand he sees this an Arctic person trying to subvert society and the other person was Robert Gratton had great taste in music and he wanted to managers they really were chalk and cheese Rob was very much like us he was very much your yobby wythenshaw version of buzz from Salford so we felt very much at home with Rob we were kepax boys which was The Terrace at Man City that's what we were Tony would call him the Yobo from within Shore and he'd call him you know the pansy from Cambridge [Music] I remember one meeting Tony and Rob ended up rolling around the floor wrestling and so Bob Congress was Tony see how Tony is seeing what he wants to do a record label that was how Factory started the Hacienda wasn't just another nightclub there's a radical idea behind it it was content Factory records Tony Wilson and punk itself yeah [Music] it was about changing the world there actually wasn't a formal company in the sense that we understand you know businesses it was about people doing what they wanted to do so there's nobody owned anybody and nobody was answerable to anybody else it wasn't done to make money it was done to be different foreign [Music] unique and very very rare [Music] [Music] everything that we did current works one thing led to another led to another one to another [Music] [Music] there's a there are a few things in fact nothing that I dislike more than being the bringer of bad news for you but uh heard during the day that Ian Curtis of Joy Division has died I don't know any details about it at all but obviously our sympathies are due to the other members of the band but most particularly to Ian's family and friends I got a call one morning from Tony to say that Ian had died and it was actually an unimaginable show couldn't really see what was going on with him because he was like one of the sort of people with weakness to have problems to be depressed it was yeah taboo you just didn't talk about it you can't um know someone who's taking their own life and not have regrets it never goes away from you you know what happened as a result of Ian's death people bought records in unprecedented amount leading to an influx of money into Factory records raising the question of what should we do with this money it's one of the great stories of contemporary pop culture that Bernard cookie and Stephen completely reinvented themselves as New Order [Music] we were supposed to go on this tour at America that was one of the first things we did was we went to New York [Music] [Applause] it was there that we were introduced to American Club life [Music] this is great isn't anywhere like this they were in big spaces they were like on multiple floors because they're all old industrial buildings [Music] and we were all in all of these places it really struck a chord the the strangest thing that I remember most was the fact that you could get in we three tosses in abandons were welcomed into these clubs whereas in England you you know if you went upside down we're in a band they'd just tell you to piss off so the conversation actually quickly and quite naturally turned to we should have somewhere like this in England it was Rob Rob who I heard he fought for this is oh yeah yeah got to a club we would put half in and in fact she would put the other half and we would be joint owners of this club so we just rent a cello you put a few bands in two tables and that's that's it it's a no-brainer how hard can it be makes perfect sense would you appreciate the risk no no but no idea yeah we just went with it yeah now we didn't say yeah we're going to do an experiment in modern art and aesthetic nobody said that this is my studio where I have this drawing board the original drawing board that I drew a load of the drawings of the Hacienda on these are the original plans [Music] I administered at Royal College I was trying to find my way in interior design when the Hacienda came along there was this massive blank canvas a beautiful opportunity to me how could I say no they just said you want the job because I want the bloody job thank you very much the record label score Factory which had connections with industry so I ended up adopting a kind of an industrial Language by using color coding and Stripes to demarc hazard had this idea by putting roadside Bowlers with reflectors on them all around the edge of the Dance Floor to filter people on and off [Music] and usually with night clubs up from that point people are creating an escape kind of a fantasy environment that is not really part of the everyday sienda became a very beautiful way of being in a warehouse in Manchester the Hacienda was just a celebration of the everyday so this is where the name came from which goes back to Tony Wilson's interest and possible obsession with the situationist and this whole kind of anarchic turning over of the political ideal there were a group of radical thinkers mainly based in Paris it says and you've forgotten your memories ravaged by all the chaos of the planet no longer leaving for the Hacienda where the roots dream of the child and where the wine ends entails from some old Almanac well you've blown it now you'll never see the Hacienda it doesn't exist anywhere the Hacienda must be built and God damn it they built the bloody thing [Music] Everybody by myself young black kids there were clubs in Manchester City Center you could go to took a chance that was it you could get in you may get in but that must be with the Hacienda because the first time we went in it just felt like this is a place where we welcome [Music] to the skies with dreads in there there was this shoegazes were in there it was a quite a bit older stuff and I said well I've not worked on a bar but I can do the glasses if you want so I started helping out collecting glasses might get some pleasure to hate me well a lot of people kind of pretend when they're talking about the Hacienda they're thinking of the house days house music Etc [Music] before that it really was about the bands that were playing well good evening and welcome to what promises to be the most hectic tube ever in fact live at the Hacienda Club in Manchester owned by Factory records [Music] but I'm pretty sure the tube being that sort of Channel 4 alternative Audience Show wanting to go to where like what Tony Wilson called the interesting Community was in Manchester so we're better to go than than the Hacienda it was this project to bring art to Manchester to bring light to Manchester that's what we've tried to do with everything we bought I got into a real role of booking things maybe just before they broke [Applause] [Music] I was working behind the bar at the night of Madonna there were hardly any people there I think about 100 people at the most must have been there [Music] came on and she was just dancing really on the dance floor and in those days in Manchester people did not like people were moaming celebrate we had to really keep an eye because it was canvas flying and stuff Madonna was actually a perfect booking for the Hacienda it does feel and Congress in a way but then you realize that Madonna was very much part of that New York club scene that so inspired the Hacienda [Applause] I just remember having to take ice down the dressing room where most people go oh yeah thank you it was kind of skulls and who are you what you're doing and when you've kind of thinking well this is my place not yours there you go there's your eyes but don't ask me for anything else I just think it was like you know we've got a superstar here uh she knew it but I don't think anybody else did at the time [Music] it would have been after I left school so I left school in 83 I was just into music and bands and oh this [ __ ] band of play no I've got to go and see them you know it wasn't even like I had any mates to go with all my mates were like what you know the first thing about the Ascender is if you were going that final [ __ ] place first because it's out of sign on the front about the size of a packet of king-sized wrestlers right so like you don't know you know what I mean [Music] [Applause] [Music] whatever great they came straight from top of the Pops to do it the Smith gigs as I remember them were all a real [ __ ] vibrant celebration [Music] Smith's gig was amazing because the stage only comes to here so you could literally just get on the stage and the stage that night was bombarded [Music] you were literally be able to touch them as they were performing you know if you're so desired that's how close you were so if you wanted to get on the stage you got on the stage and unless you caused a real incident you were going to stay on the stage as long as you wanted that feeds into a crowd that closeness there's a joy before you watch top of the pop she's not doing it for Manchester Rocky Mount Bowling in a feather Bower all right we'll see many of those around here but then like New Order and the Smiths so it made it seem that you could sing in your own accent and wear your own clothes and be yourself and still get somewhere I guess it made it seem not that far-fetched that you could be a successful band my role was to book all the bands the the booking was far and wide from Curtis Mayfield or the young Factory bands we're a Culture Club everybody first time you order plate there was the first year it was open we were like this is really good [Music] [Applause] well by 1983 New Order had done the perfect synthesis between what's the stands to be called Indie music and dance culture so you still have the app for your division there's still a Melancholia to their music but also you can dance to it as well Blue Monday I had the original 12 inch when it came out I mean you listen to that song now and it [ __ ] sounds like it was recorded yesterday it still sounds like the future just so I want to be great if we were completely kind of automatic song and Rock loved it back up beggar it's got to be bigger Bernard was like we're never going to be able to play this live cam it's impossible you would think with blue Monday coming out the New Order would be completely loaded but no half and a few big gigs like the New Order gigs or Smith's the Hacienda was empty most nights [Music] Tony Wilson in his grandiose way said that it was necessary to build a cathedral to popular culture in Manchester problem was that it only attracted a tiny congregation going it was freezing cold it was massive there was never anyone there [Music] oh we didn't realize at the time everything you were doing was raising money for the club the thing was is that then we were struggling we weren't being paid a lot we didn't we weren't earning a lot of money from New Order because most of it was going in the Hacienda with Factory we never knew how many records we'd sold with Tony you've all been written on the back of his hand because of that it was kind of when into Factory and it's like straight out again it was a big problem I never put it down to any kind of underhand Behavior I would say probably a degree of fiscal irresponsibility on behalf of the directors who were after all doing what they wanted to do rather than running a business only Rob I think the excitement of having the club kept them motivated just keep running this completely mad white elephant there must be something on the horizon and then all of a sudden this new style of dance music she's emerging from Detroit in Chicago and nobody could have sensed the impact that was gonna have [Music] in America the Disco craze obviously been going right throughout the 70s seeing black artists you know full black groups you know with afros and close up we want to wear it was phenomenal it kind of just grew and uh took over [Music] kind of thing a seminal moment is that Donald Summers for your love just all electronic are in this kind of minimal I feel love you know I mean really sultry kind of vocal Etc [Music] and that kind of opened up the doors for people to kind of say well I don't need a drummer I don't need this I don't need a bass but I don't need this I can do it all on these little sequence of things [Music] earliest house Origins are based in Chicago in the club scene drum bass and then basically vocal a great bass line a good drum pattern and then you know a minimal cause those are what would really make house the Imports arrived in Manchester Manchester to pick them up and then the kids started playing them it's going into my side [Music] thank you music was really important to me as a kid growing up it was all I had I remember being a kid in the 60s my parents were always playing music they weren't welcoming nightclubs so that culture was to have House Parties they started that Blues culture which is just basically setting up a club in somebody's house Our Generation just carried on that tradition we just took it to another level we would end up in West Indian centers we would end up paying community centers somebody's house anyway there was a space where they would allow us to um go in and entertain ourselves [Music] it made my side the party destination every Saturday night so all these streets we're all just drinking smoking [Music] crazy the first time I heard house music probably about 1984. [Music] I didn't know what it was called it was just a high Tempo style of music [Music] foreign tribal Vibe it was unique to the hood the Hacienda from 86 87 the policy went from more gigs to fewer gigs and more club night [Music] the first time we had a successful really successful club night was the Friday night the nude night that was massive success and then one night one of the young black kids came to the door knocked on the door and gave me it's a play play this mic and it was a Adonis No way back on track records [Music] I just thought this is brilliant I love this music you started to read about this nude night you know what they all naked what the [ __ ] going on now I think you know we've got to go and see what's going on here you know what I mean it's like sounded interesting this new music from America right it was just on monotonous [Music] what a lot of people didn't realize was the culture of Manchester had that electronic music background from the order the house music is just the bass line a drum beat you know you're just like that is so radical that immediately worked all that worked at the house Bang there we go something's happening here and then around 88 89 the ecstasy pill was then married to our house music and the Rave scene was born [Music] you walked into this this unbelievable Vision the energy was electric intoxicating there were two thousand people in there and there were 2 000 people dancing at once they were dancing on the chairs they were dancing on the tables they were dancing on the stage they were dancing on the podiums but kind of like just pulled into this Rhythm and this beat in this collective experience that was going on that was just like nothing else I'd ever ever come across when the people were on the stage and on the dance floor it was just [ __ ] heaving massive limbs a lot of white guys who couldn't dance it didn't matter anymore you don't need to be able to dance you can just do that and the more the groove repeated the more you felt it inside yourself the more you wanted to dance I don't think I'd ever danced in my life maybe at a wedding and then it's not my faults happening hang on a minute well hang on a minute and then before you I mean not that I was me sliding across the dance floor it was like a Liberation they got that Liberation that we'd all always had you now driven by there's just this thing tearing through your body this music the sounds of and you you just do what you got to do so that's it everyone was just free now up until house music which brought a lot of white people into the black domain for the first time yeah they would have never been exposed to that [Music] foreign student in North Wales I wanted to study fashion at the time ecstasy played the role in the Hacienda and it was prevalent but it wasn't necessary to the experience at all I certainly didn't need to go in there and feel like you need to be off your head to enjoy the Hacienda the energy in the atmosphere itself was intoxicating whatever anybody says the two are like that if it wasn't for the drug the music wouldn't have taken off and if it wasn't for the music the drug wouldn't have taken off they ain't seen affection everybody's experiencing their sin I've had one quote where okay come out with something like you weren't that many people you know taking in there well [ __ ] me you know I mean he was you know 90 of the [ __ ] club well I've left in 1985 and had come back that's when I went in on the management team and as a manager and licensee it was just absolutely incredible foreign stuff was going on because I was the biggest seller of water in the UK trucks of water were arriving every Monday that was quite something we didn't know anything about the body overheating or anything then so we just used to line up pints of water because that's all anybody had asked for the north has become used to searching for work two years ago an expanding supermarket chain advertised jobs and the queue stretched right around the building in the mid 80s you had Thatcher you had the Tory government they were at War really with the north of England they were at war with the miners Beauty news unemployment if I could press a button and genuinely solve the unemployment problem do you think that I would not press that button this instant there was a sense that people were being pitted against each other yeah at the Hacienda there was a togetherness that was very powerful very political very utopian people on the Dance Floor were feeling things with a positivity and intensity they would never be feeling in their weekly life thank you I come from just outside Manchester in a Lancashire Milltown very much white working class culture very different Society back then you know you might shake your dad's hands on Christmas Day and that was it I don't even think I even gave my mom a kiss back in that era perhaps I didn't realize at the time I was yearning for change but I was I can remember a moment in the Hacienda that really broke me very early on the Dance Floor held hands right around the Dance Floor were holding hands to the music and that really blew me away I'd never seen anything like that in my life that says a northern lab like me writes at the core I was not at all comfortable going to mainstream clubs I didn't like the idea that people only went out because they were on the pole but going to the Hacienda wasn't like that [Music] men were there and women were there because the music was brilliant and to me like-minded people without it being going out on the pub it made me see girls differently I don't think I have our girls as friends until after that and I've got [ __ ] too many of them from a cultural point of view it felt like it was breaking boundaries it was sort of political without being political it was revolutionary without violence it was unity love joy all of that it was a revolution and it was a revolution on a dance floor [Music] oh [Applause] [Music] upstairs this is an extremely trendy Club sciento [Music] which had this formula of rocking up to kind of a sticky carpet this goes if the Hacienda was like a glimpse into the future of clothing The Hitman and her in a sense was a glimpse into the past of clubbing the clubs where people drank lager down the surround handbags it just seemed a very different kind of world [Music] yeah yeah come on from Hacienda quite often and turn on Hitman and her on the TV it was a complete culture class oh my God we thought it'd be a great idea it was great publicity for the club I think the production team shall we say and the presenters in particular did get quite shocked you're a regular here Simon what is so good about this Club come on tell me the only place to go imagine basically well I feel very sorry for Manchester and those ones well it looks like Michael is having a ball down there but just let's have a watch of this guy playing all his records sometimes it's actually playing two records at once it's all clever stuffy all clever stuff paint to be fair if you're trying to explain to people what it is about the Hacienda and I remember jumping about off my head at the back of it my Pickering give me some of that kickoff this boy knows a hot tune he definitely knows a hot tune [Music] kitchens youngsters who would come back from their own night out there they were looking at what was going on in the Hacienda new music new fashion new ways of dancing it stopped being that secret society and became a national movement [Music] by now the Hacienda is a key cultural driver in British pop culture [Applause] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] black box is right on time which is a big dance floor here in Hacienda within weeks is number one in the UK what was an alternative culture became Mass Market remember the sun ran a piece about to talk monk Union and then the tourists arrived [Music] the fashion was t-shirt jeans obviously baggy trainers people were there to dance people were there to sweat what they chose to wear reflected that when you take ecstasy um let's put you in the State of Mind where if you wear something tight it just makes you feel uncomfortable [Music] your whole politics in the country got changed because of the EC nobody would settle for going home at two o'clock in the morning anymore you know [ __ ] thousands of people are dead to the service stations on the motorway and start carrying on the part you're literally bust into a warehouse there were people from all walks of life and nobody really judged each other that really opened my horizons you suddenly were mixing with people of all classes working class middle class upper class going to University opens your horizons in some ways but for kids that hadn't been to University I think it did the same I was never into dance music or electronic music or anything that wasn't played on a guitar musically opened me up to everything foreign [Music] ERS have completely caught flat-footed by acid house and what you do if you're a guitar band how do you react to this some bands totally ignored it another bands kind of did a fusion of the style [Music] come on some groups like the Happy Mondays we're actually driving along from the very start the Mondays were the people you'd see most in the Hacienda out of all the other bands we probably go home back from a shower you know for about five or six years there's one constant party [Music] bezel still hasn't really been home since 1989. [Music] come on they'd always be behind the ball you know they acted as if they were part of the management team because they were signed to factory [Music] what they did was take that Rhythm energy and the frequencies that you were experiencing at the Hacienda and they turned that into a show a performance it was off your face dance music but we've been in bass lines and bass beats and [ __ ] yeah I'm not good at answering this sort of [ __ ] I don't do this you know what I mean I'm not a [ __ ] pseudo-intellectual thank you Happy Mondays were not an accident Happy Mondays were always listening they're on the dance floor they knew the Dance Floor [Music] Manchester became Pop Culture Center Hacienda when it had to Happy Mondays they had the stone roses [Applause] [Music] I remember the nights but both Happy Mondays and the storm rolls has played top of the Pops that was the night when you knew that the Manchester scene had become mainstream it was quite the thing you know what I mean tell them both on top of the pops thank you [Music] uh you know Ian defiantly not singing into the microphone and Sean couldn't remember his own words he was minding some other [ __ ] [Applause] nobody had a [ __ ] clue really the people working this show didn't have a clue who's in the banner [Music] like I tried to get in to play drums in the Mondays and I was gonna go and play Manny's bass and Manny was going to come out and be lead singer one of my great off me tips ideas which I'm in the light a day you know now I'm glad it didn't happen I know it would have been pretty funny it's like this massive sense of Pride because you were involved in it and they were just working class people and I think people were really strutting around Manchester after that [Music] foreign [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] ER has recorded a verdict of death by misadventure on a 16 year old girl who died after taking the drug ecstasy for the inquest heard today that Claire Leighton developed a rare reaction to the drug after taking only one tablet in a Manchester nightclub what was shocking was that she was so young and that it was a such a rare kind of random reaction to an ecstasy tablet the court was told by the coroner that this was the first death in Britain directly related to this particular drug he said people should be more aware of the dangers of ecstasy it was awful I mean we had a very very terrible effect not only on Darcy and the but also on Manchester and also on anybody who knew you know the family it was awful [Music] the first Spark of the match is the exciting bit and then it's how long is the flame gonna burn and it's just a fact of life that things get shiter the longer they go on we're all taking e an easy 25 pound ashore that's a lot of money got like a million two million pound weekend [Music] with the gangs gangs in Manchester you've got this club that's very high profile and also it's got a legal trade worth millions of pounds of course they're going to get interested [Music] the Hacienda quickly became a place in that era where no one was safe my job is just changing into getting this video from this camera handing that in for the police all that sort of thing it just was losing all the fun there was night where you know somebody got knife in the club and they shot the club they locked everybody in everyone was taken out one by one [ __ ] photographed what the [ __ ] is going on here [Music] we got marched out of the club they literally I'd riot police with shields growing along so he walked this planet and they banged on the shields as you're walking through it I resigned at that point really Islands became the biggest aspect of the Hacienda and it was the saddest thing in the world [Music] the government's considering giving local councils new powers to control acid House Parties to ban acid House Parties has been given an unopposed second reading in the comments the illegal Rave they were uncontrolled and that scares the authorities especially uncontrolled energized young people running battles involving police private security guards and partygoers continued along what had been a quiet country road instead of making it a safer space the government just comes in with the trunjas and batters the whole thing down asset house became Public Enemy Number One it was hounded out the fields out the clubs and out of the culture and the party in a sense was over [Applause] foreign [Music] 91 the Hacienda was in a bit of a spiral I remember having breakfast with Tony wasn't saying I tell you what I've got the answer if we do a gay night the gangsters won't come and we'll get a much more interesting crowd and we can re-kindle this party [Music] foreign and I've been wanting to go to the Hacienda for quite a while and when I walked in I wasn't disappointed with what I saw because it just meant we were safe everybody could come [Music] to bring the Glam about the sex because I think the Hacienda had got very asexual and instead of baggy clothes we had a lot of nudity it was completely outrageous and extraordinary [Music] you see people walking around naked Paula Yates a Pet Shop Boys loads of s m dikes [Music] just people having full sex drag queens everywhere it was just beautiful that point people didn't want to go to gay clubs they were completely uncool and we got to the point where there were so many straight people wanted to come we had to check them on the doors [Music] we were quite provocative with it on our tickets we printed management reserve the right to refuse admission to known heterosexuals they had to like go through a test of gayness the girls on the door would be saying let's see you kiss your friend if you want to come in because gay people were complaining there was so many straight people inside they couldn't get in I think for Manchester it was really groundbreaking this idea of it's queer up north totally reinvented Manchester so it kind of gave it that doorway into being a gay City not just a kind of post an industrial wide Working Class C but a gay City I then came up with his idea which I pitched to them that we should turn the whole club into a gay night which basically went down like a piece of [ __ ] the Hacienda was never really the same again I think it was a sort of slow death [Music] Tony just used to put his head in his hands and go how the hell did we end up here and Robert shut up you bastard sure it's all your fault in the same way that Ian got himself in a situation that he couldn't find a way out of it Rob got himself in a situation I'm Tony that they couldn't lost initially what was really great about the Hacienda about Factory was about ideas it wasn't about money but the trouble is if you're not thinking about the money it will catch up you in the end you were in Financial bear trap that you could not break out and Rob Retton eventually you know decided he'd had enough and um closed the club in 1997. [Music] into the bowels of my lock up these are the accounts for 1985 and 1984. so in 1985 we put in 85 000 which is probably a combination of the performances we did there and money that we had to put in and in 84 we put in 110 000 so that's 200 000 in two years and here at the bottom you can see that at the year for 1985 we did it for love because it made a loss of 56 000 in 1985 made a loss in of 44 000 in 1984 so that's on top of us putting 200 in it lost another 100. do you know now how much money New Order put into the Hacienda it was an awful lot of money it's all right because we're all still here are you talking Millions oh yeah yeah it's not a few grandmas yeah you're into millions yeah I know for a fact that now new order's relationship is badly badly affected by the Hacienda even today which is 15 years after we split I think it's yeah I think it has gone really deep on all of us such a huge thing to have to dealt with in your lives so for new order it just fed into the divisions in the band yeah it does so maybe um sad because yeah we were we were friends I mean it was great we went through a lot and now um we're not anymore [Music] the legacy is about people and it's about the inclusivity and the making sure that anybody no matter what they wore or who they were what bloody color they were or what planet they were from were able to meet and feel free see me through [Music] time to sing the night when they're on I'll come up for London with a lot of mates and still great the music Still grow up so they're talking about it [Music] working at the Hacienda really changed me according to the police as the first woman in the UK to hold a license for that size venue it just gave me this confidence if I can do anything it certainly gave me confidence to say who I am and do what I want and not listen to what anybody else thinks thank you the whole music thing that surrounds this Hacienda Factory thing it is the modern history of Manchester we're all proud of the fact that we played a massive part in that [Music] in let's say 75 of the new music I hear is that same DNA that's come from my parents from when they first landed there in the 50s and 60s I can sense that for many reasons the Hacienda was an extraordinary project the Hacienda re-envisaged Manchester itself as a post-industrial city [Music] the Hacienda is the point where the city sees that it can regenerate itself altitudes were changed lives were changed by the Hacienda okay it's only on a dance floor for a few hours but actually it isn't it's a feeling and an attitude that stays with you when you wake up and it stays with you for the rest of the week and it eventually it's completely changed your life foreign not only did it make me a more empathetic person it did the same for a lot of people I think our generation made those changes I think the next generation is different now because of that [Applause] [Music] foreign [Music]

Channel: Chris Pell

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Keywords: Hacienda, Factory records, Tony Wilson, Noel Gallagher, Peter Hook, Stephen Morris, Shaun Ryder, New Order, Joy Division, Happy Mondays, Stone Roses, House music, acid house, The Smiths, Manchester, Madchester, Madonna, A Guy Called Gerald

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Length: 57min 32sec (3452 seconds)

Published: Tue Nov 22 2022