22lr for Self Defense? PROS & CONS

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hey guys what's become D from GNA today so in this video today I want to quickly talk about whether the 22lr is a good round for self-defense or not now the first thing is whether you choose 22lr for your defense round or 22 short or whatever or if you choose 45 ACP or if you choose 44 mag the most important thing is for you to train in to practice and I don't mean practice by just standing in front of a target and just standing there with all the time in the world and being able just to shoot at that static target that's just sitting there still your best bet is to be able to shoot while you're moving even if you're able to just move a little bit and to be able to move to shoot at moving targets now I know for a lot of you who go to indoor ranges who like live in big cities you just in those ranges I mean it's very very limited on what you can do there know if the skill the strength and the mindset of the shooter are not considered as you think about this subject then 22lr will nearly never be the best defensive round now and but there there still are even maybe some besides that but yeah if you don't consider skill strengthen mindset of the shooter then what is a really to consider I mean the caliber yeah but if you if you're not considering the skill strengthen mindset then you're missing about 80 to 85% of what matters to be able to really have a good self-defense situation so there's only two things I could think of that that regardless of whether it's the skill set the strength or the mindset of the of the shooter that 22lr still might be a better option is number one cost and I know people going to say no you should never consider cost whenever you're thinking about protecting your life there's no dollar value you can put on your life and you're right but we'll talk more about that a little bit so that's one thing regardless of skill strength or mindset that the cost of it still is in favor of the of the 22lr and the other thing is follow-up shots is still generally going to be better for 99.5% of the people with the 22lr and I'll talk more about that in a little bit so first thing what's the goal in self-defense to stop the it that's your goal in self-defense is to stop the threat and stopping the threat does not necessarily mean that you have to kill that person that's not what it means it means to stop them to stop whatever they're doing to get to stop that aggression from coming towards you so sometimes just even you putting up a fight at all is going to stop that attack it's like I hear all the time whenever people attack you a lot of times they're looking for victims they're not looking for a fight and if you put up any kind of a fight sometimes that's going to stop the attack number two you pulling a gun simply will stop some attacks some people will see that and think okay this guy means business and he's prepared I do not want that fight and they'll head for the hills okay sometimes that might not do it so it might get to the point where you may actually have to pulled around I mean pull the trigger and of course you're not you never should pull the trigger to just fire off a warning shot that should you should never do that if you're pulling the trigger it should be to stop the threat directly but say you miss okay you shoot and you miss sometimes just the sound of that crack will scare some will scare that threat often will stop the threat so that's a third way that might stop a threat where the caliber of the gun doesn't matter whatsoever now the fourth thing it may the person may go through all of those deterrence and still decide that they're they want to attack you and so then in that fourth one it may be the sound or maybe the actual force of the round that actually stops them okay if you do decide to use 22lr as your depends around you need to make sure that use the best ammunition possible so for instance mini mag 36 green mini mag 40 grain velociter CCI velociter Aguila interceptor all those are good choices and not only because of the ballistics that's involved but also because of the reliability of those specific rounds okay now what I'm going to do is I'm gonna go through a list of pros and cons for using 22lr as a self-defense round now like I said I don't generally if I carry I don't don't carry 22 this is mainly what I carry right here this is a Glock 23 40 caliber or carried 9-millimeter or even 45 caliber but typically when I carry I carry with this 40 Cal I do use center fire whenever I carry but I really and I'm okay I'm saying all this because I'm really thinking about my wife she she has never liked guns we've been married for 15 years now or coming close to 15 years but recently she told me that she had a dream and she had a dream that somebody was coming in our front door and and that scared her it really did and she told me the next day she said I want a gun that I can shoot because all my 9 millimeters she she can't operate so she said I'd like to have a 22lr handgun of course she said that in a weak moment cuz she didn't really mean that but actually she told me again a couple weeks later have you thought any more about that not well yeah actually I've thought a lot about that so anyways I the reason I'm doing all this is because of my wife so as I present this these pros in these cons I want you to know I really am coming from an unbiased perspective in fact I would like for 22lr to be a good defensive round and and it may be but I think it depends on each person okay so as I go through this you may think I'm in favor of the 22lr and then it sometimes you may think I'm not it's because I'm trying to present an unbiased pros and cons list about this first Pro for 22lr is the handguns that that would be using that are can come in smaller packages smaller pistols if you think about it for a 45 acp that grip is going to have to be pretty wide to be able to accommodate for those rounds okay now a con for the 22lr and this this is one that's kind of a little bit counterintuitive that's a little bit backwards but in a centerfire pistol you can nearly always have more rounds in a centerfire pistol and and like you may think well that like me you may think that's weird because like okay the 22 round is so small why is it that you can have more rounds in a centerfire where those are way bigger well the problem is is it goes to the fact that 22lr is a rimmed cartridge and so it makes it hard for it to feed reliably now they do make like double stack 22lr mags but they're very rare in handguns especially okay the next pro for the 22lr is cost now I know again you're going to say cost should not matter your life does not have a dollar amount on it but if you really if you really think about that it kind of does matter so that goes to the idea that practice is probably and training is one of the most important things that you can do to prepare yourself best for a self-defense situation okay think about this for a second let's say you for some reason you have been your to the point where you can't protect yourself okay let's say you've been disabled you've become paralyzed and you can't protect yourself anymore and so you have to have somebody else to protect you and let's say that person is a person who carries guns now let's think about that person let's say that person has a 22lr handgun and they have shot 10,000 rounds through their handgun of 22lr okay now think about another person who has in 1911 who's shot 50 rounds through his 1911 who would you rather to protect you in that situation okay and another thing to think about is just just the cost of ammunition okay and and of course we all understand that if you're going to get some kind of 45 acp that's the taller point that self-defense ammo or 40 or 9-millimeter any of those that are self-defense you're going to be spending I mean at the minimum you're probably spinning the quarter around and that's going to be for some cheap stuff whereas with 22 if you're using like a mini mag as your as you're defensive round which would be a decent good round if you're using 22 you're talking seven eight cents around so we're talking a fourth of the cost and again I know you're saying well that should not matter well it doesn't matter I mean I would put $100 worth of bullets in my gun if I thought that would make me more protected but it's not just what's in my gun that needs to be prepared for or the self defense situation it's the money I need to spend on those those cartridges to practice with so if I'm going to go out and I'm going to go go to the range and go practice there's just I'm not going to be able to shoot a whole bunch of 45 ACP that's hollow points or some type of self defense mo it's just not financially going to be feasible and I know there's some of you watching who are going to say I go out and I shoot 500 rounds of 45 acp every week of my self defense stuff to make sure I'm prepared and if you do that you rock and you're awesome but I'll let you know you're in like the half a percent of people in the country there's not many people who can afford that or anything related to that they just they won't be doing that but if a person can bring you know five boxes of mini mag 100 rounds each have 500 total rounds and have 30 35 40 bucks into that and to be able to come yep I mean not not everybody can still even do that but there'll be a lot more people who can do that and who can get proficient with their gun that they're going to use in self-defense with with with that cost of ammunition okay now going back to a con for the 22lr one of the cons is is a huge one and it's the simple fact that 22lr ammunition is not as reliable as centerfire ammunition is and as I was doing some research and reading forms everywhere and looking at videos there were some people I saw who said I've been to for forty years and I've never had a misfire with the 22 and oh I don't know that's kind of hard to believe maybe that person has been using the top of the top of the top 22lr ammunition that whole time because I mean if you watch my channel you know I'm a 22 guy I mean I've got all kinds of 22 rifles and stuff I enjoy that but yeah even with stuff that people consider a great ammunition I still have misfires on that ammunition from time to time and it's because of the way that the round is made with the centerfire rounds you have that primer that's that's right in the center there it's it's just a higher quality ignition system than the primer on on a 22lr which the primer is seated in the rim of that and sometimes the primer compound doesn't get out into that rim sometimes the rim is thicker in places than others and it just it makes for a less reliable realm okay another probe for the 22lr eyes of self-defense is recoil management okay think about this just take an average shooter just an average shooter and take that person out to to a range set up a 12 inch piece of paper and give them a 1911 with six rounds of 45 ACP in it and give them a Smith & Wesson M&P 22 compact with six rounds in it tell them to back up ten yards tell them to bring up and to shoot as fast as they can shoot as fast as they can with that 1911 at that 12 inch piece of paper and then tell them to shoot the same thing with with the 22lr six rounds as fast as they can to that 12 inch piece of paper now stop for just second a lot of people want to project their abilities onto other people or even more accurately they want to project their erroneous perceived abilities of themselves onto other people and so somebody thinks well I can shoot I can shoot a fly off a donkey's rear-ended a hundred yards with my 1911 okay good if you can do that you're awesome but people get in that mindset and they think they can they think or maybe they even can do that and so they think everybody else should be able to do that well know most people can't do that number one people don't have again that they can't afford to get to practice enough to get that good maybe if they were in the military or law enforcement where the government pays for their rounds maybe they can get that good but most people aren't going to have enough ammunition to get that good and all kinds of things maybe they'll just never be that good because the skill sets just never going to be there whatever but don't project your abilities onto other people just think about it from a an average shooter shooting light in that situation okay so the obvious thing that I think is that if you told a person to shoot that 45 HP six shots fast as they can to that 12 inch piece of paper there's going to be rounds all over the place but if you tell them to do that same thing with 22 I mean it just the muzzle flip is so so small that they're going to be able to bring it down and just really get those rounds again they may not be exactly all in there but I think the the potential for there to be more rounds in that piece of paper from that 22lr is way way greater okay another thing related to recoil and this is a pro again for the 22lr is alright think about you going out and you shooting 500 rounds of let's say you shoot 357 for yourself defense think about going out to 500 rounds in one day of 357 yeah you're going to be hurting I mean and again same thing there's probably some people who do that but you're going to be hurting if you do that with 500 rounds so you're going to back off of that you're not going to shoot 500 rounds of 357 more than likely but think about going out and seeing that pistol pistol with 22 in it shooting 500 rounds again it's still not going to be very comfortable but you can probably make that through pretty easily and again the most important thing is practice and knowing how to use that firearm properly because of shot placements the most important thing okay now a con going back to the con now for the 22lr is ballistics and ballistics obviously there's going to be no way that the ballistics of a 22lr is better than that of a non millimeter or 40 or 45 ACP or 357 or 44 Magnum or any of that no way and I don't think anybody would ever argue that on ballistics centerfire stuff and then again of course I've seen people's on about 25 HP and 32 acp they're you're talking maybe similar to 22lr but I'm when I'm talking about center fire I'm talk about 940 45 that type of stuff and maybe even 380 but another con for the 22lr that for self-defense is the fact that most 22lr hollow points do not open well okay what I mean by that is in that hollow point whenever it hits it's supposed to basically splash open and make a wider wound channel well they just don't open well on 22s and especially when ever there shot out of a short barrel like this they just don't have enough time to get up enough velocity before the gases are not pushing them anymore so they don't ever get going fast enough and so whenever it hits just there's just not enough energy therefore to open that hollow point whereas on a centerfire yeah I mean you can have very very reliably opening hollow points okay and then the age-old thing about it 22 for self defense is that a 22lr handgun is better than a knife and it's better than a stick and it's definitely better than your fists it gives you that separation and it's like active self-protection says you need that force multiplier you need something that that multiplies what your fists and your your open hand skills are able to accomplish you want something that that ups the ante so to speak okay F confer 22lr is that 22lr rounds are are dirtier rounds whenever they fire just just the way they the way they fire the way they work it's just a dirty around than a sinner fire and again if we're just kind of thing about average shooters here and average people who maybe kind of take care of their farms but don't really know how to exactly then that 22lr is going to make their farms more dirty and make them more susceptible to having certain types of failures and in the last in the so I don't have more pros but one last con for the 22 is that if all you ever train with the 20 is a 22lr you're painting yourself in a corner so to speak so you go out of the range that's all you ever shoot to 22 basically you're locked into that okay so let's say you're in a situation where you don't have your 22 handgun with you or maybe yours has become disabled and say there's somebody else there and they have two guns and all they have is an extra 9-millimeter and say here this is all I got take it I know that overall for the most part I've come to the conclusion that I think 22lr would work fine as a self-defense round now as I said at the very beginning if you don't consider the skill set the strength or the mindset of the shooter then shooting with a nine-millimeter or 45 you're nearly always going to be better off with but for all the other reasons that I laid out I think 22lr could could definitely be a good self-defense round and something that you could have confidence in and something that you would just need to really train and make sure you're good with that because like everybody says you know it's shot placement that matters where you put that round so overall I think the 22lr could be a very good self-defense round just make sure you're using a good firearm make sure using good quality ammunition make sure you practice and train with that a lot so that you're very proficient with that those are my thoughts on the idea let me know what you think I'm sure there's a lot of people who disagree with a lot of stuff I've said in here but I thought most of it made sense to me so there you go so becoming from DNA today thanks for watching
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Length: 18min 32sec (1112 seconds)
Published: Wed Mar 01 2017
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