Xbox Activision Blizzard Deal Approved | PlayStation Showcase | Starfield Under Pressure - XB2 266

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homelander you know I've even had people making up fake tweets about Mortal Kombat leaks that is one passionate Community never really had more combat information before so I didn't really know what I was getting in for but yeah none of them apologized to me man after all after all that I I'm I can't I I'm not shocked I mean I'm not shocked either I'm shocked yeah probably probably forgotten who I am but anyway yeah the through my Victory lap not Mortal Kombat leaks were correct my record is untainted untainted as long as it's on Windows Central yeah what do you mean I haven't gotten anything else wrong what are you talking about I don't know you know you never know fake news bro but anyway how are you doing buddy around are you are you are you ready for showcase season oh bro I have rumors coming in showcase Seasons beginning we got PlayStation showcase next week we have worldwide approvals for Xbox Activision Blizzard acquisition worldwide we're like What 37 countries now approving the deal but will that one hold it up how are you feeling now are you still on the uh because you were at five percent five percent chance lowly five percent chance the deal goes through and then you sort of bumped it up to seven how you feeling now you feeling a little bit better nah it's still about a seven you know still is that but the there's some there's interesting things happen in the UK politically like the the chancellor like I think the government's super embarrassed about this now because every basically every single regular out there has approved the deal the FTC is holding it up for for stupid reasons and you know you've got the European Union that did their analysis and they approved it China did its analysis as well and they approved it so you basically got the UK by itself ultimately um exceptionalism again making the government look stupid because it's it's kind of like it feeds into this narrative that Bobby kotig basically started that the UK is a terrible place to do business after brexit you know and you know it's it's not it's beyond the ABK deal we've got car manufacturers here this week talking about how terrible brexit is and how like the deal needs to be renegotiated or the factories are going to start being moved to Europe you know so there's a continuing narrative in the UK right now that the UK is an awful place for business so the chancellor of the the elected Chancellor of the UK um MP Jeremy Hunt uh no no prizes for figuring out what his surname rhymes with but he um he came out today and was like the the CMA needs to remember its responsibilities and stuff because it's sort of controversial because the CMA in the UK is completely independent of the government Regulators are supposed to be independent of the government because you know to to avoid the government interests manipulating the regulator but it seems very much like the U.S interests have manipulated the regulator so now we've got the regulator of the regulator the cat they're going to look into the deal and it's it's just a whole ass mess bro it's a whole last mess but um but yeah that's all fun and games but yeah I don't think the UK I mean I I say seven percent but I really deep down don't think the UK alone will be able to stop this train nobody you can't stop in anything right Jazz that's how you know well I was thinking like if if the Europe if Europe said no then it was gonna it that was gonna be it you know it was gonna be too expensive to try and push it through but now Europe Europe and China said yes they they ain't going to abandon this they're going to fight this to the last breath they're gonna they're gonna at the government and be like you know fix this blah blah blah and I think even if it comes down to something like um them just saying okay well we will keep the status quo in the UK just to satisfy our Dom regulator and get it through that way because you know there's a lot of there's a lot of mechanisms and a lot of options open to Microsoft to get this through I think what's the most likely scenario is that UK consumers end up getting screwed that's usually what happens in this country the UK gets screwed everyone else will be fine but UK will get screwed but yeah we'll see there's still a lot more to talk about Starfield complete under pressure by the media world hunger cure people of blindness and if it doesn't well Xbox dies it's it's do or don't either it needs to deliver or Xbox is dead uh and yeah I did see this a whole bunch of other stuff showcase season PlayStation showcase Xbox showcase it's gonna be a fun show got a lot of things to talk about um but before we get into all that we got some uh housekeeping to uh take care of and as usual the Xbox 2 podcast is sponsored by the one and only manscaped so Jasmine Escape that's right Rand this week's podcast is once again sponsored by manscaped summer's coming Rand are you ready to unveil your beach mod no I'm not well rant maybe you should buy manscaped 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from the confines of La among fans at Fan Fest ah um I don't know we'll have to see we'll have to wait and see about that round could Jazz be making a trip to La this year yeah I don't know we might have to wait and see you never know what what could happen in this crazy world you know we got a new CEO and you know strategies evolving who knows what might happen well let's see well we also have the wonderful people at patreon.com xb2 and uh they get some of these shout outs here we got the greatest a bit Chris parney starsman hey blink and the bearded Tate sleets XZ Army dude 52c Mr butter genes William Schumacher Ryan kipple foreign object Mythic Marty Tyler Gunstar 75 moronic donkey 99 see money Mario Kart madman on YouTube Maka Zilla I killed the hollow man Randall 419 Silas Eric Gregory Elijah Vasquez James Moore Halo is the franchise Playa cateracts Ricky Fallon bright Thunder one Jasper chap Joseph Campbell blastos Mr Joanna dark Justin duel Frank Mariano PB bro King Justin Miller ASA T and Madison untidygram or untidy Tim Grizzy mofo OG Governor Grimm dizzy huff and Justin Sego Andrew Courtney wagerman achievement the Scarecrow 121 Darren trophy uh Prof JJJ Butterball 8 Ghostface Killah Wolfgang kpz and Ralph Wiggum and if you guys missed it we just did Xbox 2 ultimate on Tuesday uh it's patreon exclusive you can check it out um and we did an Xbox uh showcase Fantasy Draft we did the fantasy draft that was a fun episode man it was a fun episode and let me just say my Xbox showcase entirely realistic compared to Jazz and in the voting for the show uh mine won my I had a better I put I put together a better showcase than one percent it was it was like two votes but still mine was the better the the patrons who were there who were listening to it they loved it and they were like Rand you you just put together a killer show so he said Mark so should I use them I mean they should be asking for you know some feedback because I could watch the show and tell them uh much better than their mock reviewers for redfall you know the ones that were like I don't know maybe mid 70s how I bet you those mock reviewers never work for Microsoft or Bethesda ever again oh dear oh dear around getting messy already and we've only just stopped I mean I'm just saying bro I know what's good I may not be an artist I know what looks good you can show it to me and I could tell you how people are gonna think if it's acceptable or not if I played redfall early I'd have been like I don't know about this guys 60 written all over it well I don't know we're Mark reviewers say it's just okay it's 75 and it's not that big of a deal you know if you had if I had played it they would have known the truth they would have been well prepared for well who's coming yeah I guess you know you know anyways hindsight's 20 20 bro it is true it is true uh we still have Xbox two uh plus one coming at the end of the month did you reach out to the person that we were thinking about having or have you not done that yet because you always forget to do that I forgot sorry dude it has been a week man I've like um window Central is growing we're expanding I've I've hired four people this week so you know I've been trying to get all that sorted out so I haven't written that much and I haven't been Twitter that much either because I've been so damn busy but yeah uh Windows Central is growing baby at a time where lots of other media outlets seem to be shrinking or going going bankrupt going bus yeah I wonder why I wonder what we're doing there other sites aren't could it click back I don't know maybe we need a little bit more of that but I don't know it is what it is yeah um well let's let's move on we have a super chat here from the Don CG Don CG cjg together we shall hold the line against the clown man Association have a good show boys this is my favorite time of the week but I love I love how King David's speech hold the line has now become like it's become like Xbox Community myth and Legend yeah people are using it as a rallying call to hold the line and you know there are quite a few people that were upset upset yeah a bunch of nobodies kind of been like you know say no we shouldn't hold the line or whatever it's like it's all in fun games Kings like a great character right very uh you know he he he could be on stage he could be an actor he's got the Charisma like we had him on Xbox two ultimate and he's such he's in going to talk to like you know you're gonna get some golden from him right and and the thing is like it it carries it it has weight because uh people look up to King and just like a lot of the times you you see you'll say something on social media or we'll say something or somebody else will say something and then suddenly people who listen to you will start repeating you'll see like exactly your argument that you may be repeated the same exact way from other other people will repeat it and that's how you know you've sort of kind of crossed into uh the world of of being not inconsequential essentially and IOP is loved King David is loved more you know in the Xbox Community by a lot of people and that was kind of the pick up the rallying cry but then there are obviously people out there that are super jealous super jealous of the visibility super jealous of the exposure super jealous of the fact that certain people within the community uh not because they're better but because maybe their voices carry more weight than others that uh what he said kind of took a lot of Life of its own and then they started side tweeting him without mentioning him about the holding line stuff and it's like the thing is nobody cares about you nobody cares what you have to think about anything the fact that then you have to try to cling on to somebody's else's um you know saying to get any sort of traction on social media says it all you're worthless and you're inconsequential you know you know those type of people Jazz The Hanger on drama tubers yes people who that that the whole stick is making videos about other creators it's not even really videos about other creators it's more like just even just random people on Twitter who think they're who think their opinions matter and who just shouted out into the ether and nobody cares nobody likes their tweets nobody retweets it uh their podcast nobody listens to uh and they're jealous to see someone like King basically start a a movement so it's not about like oh I'm gonna I'm gonna say something of my own it's I'm gonna attack this person and try to get clout that way those type of people so I guess yeah drama tubers or whatever what have you I just noticed that I'm concept I guess but at least drama troopers make something if you just three now that's even lazier but whatever yeah negative people gonna negative bro and uh they don't deserve that's what they do much mind but hold the line oh the line it's um oh what's his name his name that's solarian oh yeah yeah Morton no no no it wasn't more than it was the other guy ah I can't remember his name someone in child remember it's um it's the the head of the the the um it was morden's replacement and in charge of the the sort of special task group oh okay I remember his name I can't remember his name all the line yeah an impression I mean yeah sing that song uh you know the song that Morton sings and Mass Effect 2 you know like I carry captain kirahi's name yeah someone in chat said I knew their words but our chats are very knowledgeable yeah but um but yeah the the salarian song maybe I'll learn it and I'll sing it on the on the patreon not not publicly though yeah for the patreon people yeah which was which was great because the patreon people on Tuesday we were like oh mortal kombat's gonna revealed on on Thursday and they kept that a secret yes they did thank you patreon peeps oh yeah yes okay rock and roll baby uh I've got some more Super chats chaos mic remember for 26 months says the man the myth the legend Rand El Jazz Duo what a week for Xbox expecting a good show yeah I mean last week Jazz was a little bit tired but he didn't he didn't sound tired today he didn't come into the show basically saying like oh my God it's been a week bro I'm so tired uh yeah I I got the energy I had a good sleep last night yeah the last last last week I was like I got it way too early and then worked really hard all day but this week I've I got up late so I got lots of energy so yeah I feel bad I feel bad when I'm like come on tired because you know I don't I don't want to be tired but I also don't want to skip a show it's kind of like what do you do do you have a tired show or do you skip a show you know we can't skip shows we can move a show but we can't skip uh Angry hippie says shiny and smooth moves that's the best Super Chat I've ever seen in my life yeah web Dave member for two months it says Jazz try tuna and rice with Lee parn's Worcestershire sauce to taste enjoy Rand when will we get predictions for the Showcase bro where'd you say that again Worcestershire what what's the chef what's the share what's the show yeah okay [Laughter] oh man have you ever had Worcestershire sauce I don't believe I have no no what is it it's very good ah I don't know I actually don't know what's in it but it's very good I don't know what's in it it's uh it's from Worcestershire I guess but yeah I don't know you can get in America because there was a whole South Park episode about it yeah I am as far as my predictions I'll probably post the beginning of June you know the Showcase is 911 so I'll probably do it in June uh try to think about you know things that you know might be there as for like the podcast prediction episode I mean let's looking at um you know the well how much time we have left here we'll probably do the prediction episode on June 2nd and uh yeah which is like the two Fridays before and I was thinking on the Thursday the 8th because I don't think because you got a lot of things going on that week yeah and I don't I don't think we can do it we can do a show on the ninth on Friday the 9th so we're probably gonna do the show on June 8th which would be the show right before the Showcase that weekend so we're probably gonna do an Xbox two on June 8th on a Thursday and I was sort of thinking we should have a big episode we should have like people I I don't know if I can do Thursday we'll talk about this off the air but now you can't even do what about Wednesday what about the seventh bro what is going on I can't even have a show that week am I gonna have to do a show with a whole bunch of people and stuff with a whole bunch of people instead I think bro you're gonna have to do a jazz list Xbox two with Cog cult and all the peeps I'm afraid maybe we'll figure it out we'll figure it out yeah I mean what yeah well you're gonna have to give me heads up because we were gonna do it on the 8th but apparently now I guess we're not but either way there probably will be a show that week if Jazz can't do it I'll just have to have guests on the show instead of you know an Xbox two plus one it'll be a live show with a bunch of people uh have a lot of fun uh I think we've done that like the last couple years and those are always a good time so yeah um Supernova in the in the chat says until now CMA didn't realize that Jimbo manipulates and made them super clowns in front of the world jez what's about our lovely avowed oh wow day I don't know I don't know about about it's um it's it's interesting to see people's predictions on expectations come out a lot of people think about it might be there because um of the graphic they've used which is sort of like they've got that sort of green Shimmer to it I will say that I haven't I don't know personally if a valve is going to be there or not but I got pretty high hopes I mean I hope about is there I hope you so too but I I was I was perusing the only thread that I like on reset air on the Xbox thread and and they were they were being like which one of the elusive five are we gonna see and the elusify being I think what what were the what were the elusive five it was a vowed State of Decay it was basically the games from 2020. they're done like The elusive five Theta Decay ever wild uh avowed Perfect Dark and Fable I believe were the five called dubbed The elusive five and it was how many of the elusive five will remain elusive after the show and how many will actually be in you know we'll we will see and you know just me thinking out loud and just kind of being like well maybe two of those I think possibly maybe two of the five we might get information on or see a second time like I know everybody thought a VOD was going to be there last year right I think we both were like yeah miles has to be there but then nobody knew that Microsoft was gonna pull this 180 and be like no no no no no we're just gonna we're gonna focus on things the last in the next 12 months right and that kind of changed everything uh uh and I remember like I think it was back in 2021 they were like oh you're gonna see a vow again really soon but then there was a mix up and we actually got outer worlds two trailer and they didn't show anything last year so it's like 2023 you know I mean imagine if a vowed is you know a 2024 title considering Xbox needs to kind of show off what their uh their road map is uh I would imagine a vowed would show up but it's kind of hard to make definitive statements when Microsoft so casually can just change how things have always worked uh so I mean but but I think you did say in the last was it on the last show where you said that um that you think that they got rid of the 12 months because you've heard of a game that's definitely further out than 12 months or something but then maybe that's changed who knows yes um I uh yeah I I think it's not the 12 months but we'll see we'll see what happens it better not be the 12 months I'll blame I'll blame ZX for that because he keeps on he keeps on posting for the 12 months like we should do that and I'm just like you're crazy you already ruined the whole ABK Thing by saying zero concessions constantly every single day and saying that it wouldn't get blocked and then it gets blocked bro what is that is that an X-Wing is there Star Destroyer in your room what is going on what was it literally was it was it riding in your house like two feet away from you well what was that was a motorbike the windows open right was that is was that loud for anybody else because it sounded like it was literally right next to you what I am really sorry yeah I yeah that was a motorbike a spooky spooky but it's we're closed it now oh my Lord all right oh yeah sorry uh Chuck Norris brings the super chat with the lyrics I am the very model of a scientist hilarity and I've studied species tyriana Zara and batarian there you go oh wow that's pretty good yeah when people say I can't sing on key and I know what I'm doing and you know what I probably shouldn't have said it live during like during this podcast because now people are gonna clip my singing you know I should have got cold Eastwood in here to sing should have kept that as a uh Xbox two ultimate exclusiveness nobody could hear my horrible singing bro I think you're actually amazing good singing I don't know about that nobody wants to hear maybe you are actually the best singer in the whole world I don't know about that uh Artemis wants to know Jess what is your percentage on the deal now after this week oh man well put it this way right I don't think I don't think the CMI will budge right okay I don't think the same mile budge I don't think that that will solve the CMA problem I don't think Microsoft will figure out a way to make the CMA happy but I think Microsoft will go ahead without the CMA somehow so they'll get around CMA either by just cutting off Game Pass benefits for the UK they'll do something to screw over the UK you know because that's what happens to that's what happens to Britain our government and our and our sort of our establishment you want to call it their their main goal in life is to screw over British people so um my expectation is that the deal will go through it will be messy and the UK gets screwed over that is my current prediction so I think it's still about seven percent chance that it'll go through cleanly in the UK and the reality is that the CMI will just keep blocking it and they'll you know the cat tribunal you know I got no faith in that and it'll just be a big mess and then Microsoft will just be like well we got to pull the plug then in the UK and then the government will be like maybe the government then gets involved and he's like well please don't do that you know but I also think the government's got bigger fish to fry and they'll just let it all happen it'll all go fly under the radar because the UK's got bigger problems to deal with right now and uh in the end the regulator will screw over the public that's my prediction [Laughter] rip in peace yeah uh Sean Lawrence wants to know if we are doing a crossover with Duke this year the finding dude should I want to do that I mean you want to do that of course I'm always down to talk to the Dukes Lord Cognito and Maddie I mean that would be up to them though you know if Maddie and Duke want us on or individually us on defining Duke you know they usually reach out um you know I mean we've had Kagan for Xbox two plus one I need to get Maddie on at some point I want to do that after the Showcase though yeah you guys said you want you want Mario and after the Starfield yeah after star field and after the Showcase because we can have a lot of different things to talk about like Starfield uh you know the road map that Xbox will put out so we can we can have some really better conversations because right now it's just kind of everybody's sort of spinning their wheels and that's why you end up with these articles like Starfield is Xbox's last chance at redemption or else right that's so it's like nothing's really going on you're kind of in this holding pattern waiting for the marketing beats where all your clicks are going to come from because everybody's engaged with the PlayStation showcase and people want to see what's new from the Xbox thing so all right what are we putting out there can we think I got one this is definitely last chance for Xbox even though they survived the Xbox One error with Jack's for years and years and years this is it right here baby Starfield the last chance at Redemption and if if Starfield doesn't hit uh well it's they might as well just sell it it's just completely over it's done and dusted uh shout out to Dustin who wrote the article uh which you know there's some things to say about it I mean I get it like everybody's entitled to feel a certain way and I do agree I agree with the sentiment of the article that like Starfield is important because it is probably more important after what happened with redfall I just kind of I look at like last chance at Redemption I'm just like um sounds a bit hyperbolic to me but I understand we live in a world governed by SEO and click bait and people want to click on things and you got to get people in in enraged on one end or happy on the other or whatever so people can click and all that sort of stuff but like I don't disagree with the premise that it's an important game like yes it is I I've even said on the show that Starfield is like the most important new IP for Xbox since gears I think has the chance to be bigger than gears I think it's you know we're talking about Halo but I don't know I just I just well we'll talk about that later we'll talk about that later I just I just I feel like we're in this zone right here where everybody's sort of spinning their tires they're kind of recycling content or coming up with new uh ways to spin things because we're just waiting for the Showcase we're waiting to see what phase two is from PlayStation and we can talk about like their plans or we're waiting to see what Xbox's roadmap is for the next two years and we can write articles and about how we feel we feel confident that Xbox is going to show off great things do we do we like how hellblade2 looks uh the gameplay improvements do we like how a vowed uh plays and like the rumored reboot that you talked about you and um you know uh Jason schreier said it kind of went through um a little reboot a couple years ago to be like oh do you like how it looks do what about 2024 release date what about these smaller games and then it's like oh well Fable didn't show up again what does that mean is Fable in trouble Perfect Dark wasn't there is Crystal Dynamics having a problem is the initiative not the answer like it's sort of we're waiting for all these questions to have answers and for the media types to start kind of setting the next narratives for the platforms and the narrative right now is that rightly or wrongly XBox doesn't know how to make great games or right because that's basically kind of been the Fallout from redfall The Fallout from releasing a critically panned game from a studio that has uh Game of the Year contenders in their in their past like the first game under uh Bethesda right that Microsoft's new Mega publisher that they've been marketing for two years and it comes out and with a wet fart right stinks up the joint doesn't last long because it's already fallen off the most most played list like it's basically non-existent on Steam and already like outside the top 30 on Xbox so probably won't have a lot of legs but because of that visceral reaction of waiting all that time for something new uh now it's like well is Starfield gonna be because that's kind of like that's kind of like what what it is now it's like well God is Starfield going to be and if Starfield this kind of olive goes back to what I what I've always said jazz with redfall and Starfield if those games were good Xbox will get zero credit and really they shouldn't get any credit uh like even with Hi-Fi Rush those games were in development long before Xbox acquired them right but I did say if those games were bad like redfall was that Xbox would get all the blame yeah and they've certainly shouldered all the blame because Phil went out there in an interview and basically took all the blame on himself like a leader really should right even despite the fact you can have different opinions about whether or not the game should have launched and stayed it launched in or what have you Phil took the blame on himself and been like we can't do this uh but it's playing out exactly uh exactly like how I thought it would like if they're bad they'll get all the blame and if star feels great if star field is the the huge hit that everybody's been hoping for then nobody's gonna give any credit to Xbox they'll just be like oh yeah it's Bethesda it's Todd Howard of course they were gonna put out something great Xbox had nothing to do with it the game was been in development for a long time so then the you know it'll be pushed further it'll be it'll be Forza Motorsport but then people will say well that doesn't matter because it's Forza and and forza games are always consistently good so that doesn't matter and then it'll push the hellblade but then people will say well is hellblade good if it's bad they'll say well that proves that Matt booty and Xbox game studios doesn't know what they're doing because hellblade 1 was already good but if it's actually good they'll say well XBox doesn't have anything to do with it because it was just a an IP they acquired of course it's going to be good right so like you're gonna have to really go to 2024 to get something like a vowed or one of these other titles before it's like truly you know what is Microsoft involved in versus what do they acquire and how much say do they have in things like I already see all the narratives basically in front of me for the next year depending on how the titles uh perform right but that doesn't mean rambling that's just me rambling I'm sorry I thought it was going to be more nah I um I agree with you you know I don't think you can necessarily give Xbox all the credit for Starfield but I will say that I mean there's probably a chance that uh Xbox is probably more willing to delay red um not red for uh star field than Bethesda would have been you know because you know Microsoft I think can shoulder a delay for a massive game maybe a little bit better than Bethesda on its own at this point would have been you have to remember if Bethesda was still single single they're not married um I mean Xbox put a ring on that but then they just kind of let them off to do whatever and they came back with they brought home a puppy that shits and pisses all over the carpet they're like uh we should have gotten involved and potty trained this puppy before I guess I mean Bethesda was kind of like spinning its wheels in the mud a little bit trying to figure out its identity in the the service game world I mean Fallout 76 is doing all right now and Elder Scrolls Online is doing all right now but neither of these games reviewed well at launch and um they kind of don't have their service Cash Cow like epic games does or like Microsoft does with Minecraft like Activision does with everything you know so Bethesda and you know even like um you know take two they've got growth of thought online and you know stuff like that so every all these big triple I Publishers they all have like their cash codes that they milk like Apex Legends or whatever but Bethesda never really had one so they were kind of like crap we've been we're a Dev of single player games and we don't really have one so they're probably like yeah okay we'll do Fallout 76 on an engine not designed for multiplayer we'll make you know Elder Scrolls Online uh you know it's yeah it's not not particularly gray um but you know um it's it's all right now after like a million expansions but at launch it was pretty terrible when you compare it to what was out there um you know and uh without Microsoft there probably would have been like man we need to release Starfield as soon as possible so we can get some Revenue but with Microsoft I don't think revenue is the goal anymore you know and it's important sure but it's like it's more about Game Pass and it should be more about Game Pass and it should be about growing the Xbox brand because those games are exclusive I think that's where the disconnect is ultimately is that like for Xbox these games mean um it impacts the brand of Xbox you know and like it comes back to what we discussed in a previous show where it's like what is what is the goal now for these games under Bethesda would have been Revenue but now it's part of Xbox it's like the goals are different right but I suppose just for the devs that all they should need to focus on is making a good game and that's what Phil always kind of professes in interviews is that we just want them to make good games and we don't want to we don't want them to have to worry about the rest of it but you know well in that case Xbox should be doing a better job of positioning some of this stuff but I don't know it's a big philosophical debate about what Xbox's role is when it's some of its studios are you know can you could consider them to be satellite right I don't know yeah I don't know it's a big discussion we have a super chat here from Atticus he says Jazz I'm a first time Diablo player and the betas had me hooked took two days off work for a four day weekend to grind LOL don't judge me I think I did see you guys say that uh you or at least you've been seeing a lot of Trends uh basically that point to Diablo 4 being the first Diablo game for a lot of people yeah I mean when to Diablo 3 come out like it was over 2014 I think I want to say maybe nine years ago then well it could it could have been 2013. I think it was or no was it the three was it the 360 gen was it the end of the 360. the camera on 360 originally yeah um it launched on PC another thing it came to Xbox 360 afterwards well I wanted I can't even remember when it launched it was a long ass time ago I want to say I played it on Xbox one uh okay so initial release date May 15 2012. and I want to say I played it on Xbox One um but yeah it looks like it was uh oh no I played it on the 360. I didn't play the Xbox One version I think didn't they give through free upgrades or something I don't know maybe they didn't but anyway yeah it was a lot it came out a long ass time ago and I think like Diablo 3 like Diablo I always call it Diablo I don't know why but Diablo 3 um it maintained like a strong fan base over the years but I don't think it it revolved around its existing players it didn't really get new players very much but like the seasons were very sort of oriented around existing players and and giving people more you know new stuff to do and reasons to make new characters but they never really went outside the the Diablo bubble you know so I think this will be the first Diablo for a lot of people you know especially after like maybe they tried Diablo mortal and they were like man this is you know a casino hellscape so it's you know a lot of people like those kind of games apparently because the game's making money out of a fist but for those of those people who play Diablo more and were like this is really good but I don't want the pay to win stuff um that's basically what Diablo 4 offers right so yeah I think yeah a lot of it's going to be you know the first Diablo for a lot of people and um I've got high hopes for it man I have to tell you very high hopes I'm looking forward to it uh Sebastian Cooper says just remember ponybot's Xbox is King hold the line what the hell is a pony bot a ponybot ponybot is um I don't know someone who is a fan toxic Fanboy of both sides I don't know I've never I've never maybe maybe they're maybe they're a fanboy of Xbox and play stay here and they hate Nintendo who would that be oh that'd be you your Pony bot because you play on playstation and you play an Xbox but you hate Nintendo excuse me yeah you're a pony bot bro you look you play on playstation you play an Xbox and you hate Nintendo you are a ponybot you mean like I turn on my PlayStation twice a year and I play like every other day on Xbox I'm I'm a I'm a pony bot because of that that's what that means yeah because you yeah you switch bro I don't I don't think that's what that means I think that's what it means I just made it up all right I guess deal with it bro all right uh shout out to Ralph Wiggum become the newest member of the channel appreciate it me puppet 007 uh do you think Xbox will actually release their roadmap because so far it appears they're just stumbling along well I mean that's a that's an interesting way to put it I mean you look at what this showcase is going to be right and you know that redfall is not going to be talked about at all they I don't I don't even know if XBox socials have really even talked about redfall since the whole uh since its release so redfall is not going to be at the show it's not like sea of Thieves where like there's a chance to see a thief shows up yet again because of the last sea thieves I was I literally looked at yesterday to see how many games Xbox showed in 2022 and 2021 and it was like 32 last year and like 30 the year before so it was basically in between 30 and 32 games and the one constant was two constants were three constants actually Four constants now I'm thinking about it was Fallout 76 and Elder Scrolls Online were both grounded was at both and I think even grounded was at the 2020 show if I'm not mistaken and sea of thieves was at both so sea thieves could show up again grounded maybe could show up again uh you know I don't know about Fallout 76 and yeah you have to accept the fact that these games have a lot of fans and they deserve to have the best thing too like I'm not like I'm not someone who really cares to to learn personally about sea of Thieves because I don't play it but um these games are huge you know and you can't complain if they're on they're on stage at Xbox yeah I mean Halo wasn't there but I guess what I'm trying to say is Starfield has its own thing redfall is not going to be there Minecraft Legends is going to be out already the only game that we know of is Forza Motorsport it'll be there probably get a release date in October and then that's it that's all you know for Xbox very similar situation the PlayStation currently right now where all you know is they have Spider-Man 2 releasing this fall supposedly in September you have a Wolverine game that's either 2024 at the earliest probably 20 25. so a lot of people are looking forward to the PlayStation showcase because you have the situation where Sony has a lot to show and you want to see their roadmap because you want to know what's going to come in 2024 maybe what's even coming in 2025 and Xbox is very similar the difference is with Xbox they revealed a whole bunch of games in the past years that you're still waiting to hear more info information about like The elusive five right so you're looking at it like all right well they're going to have to talk about games that are coming next year because what else would they do it if not for this show to tell you hey how Blade 2 looks good and it's coming this time here's another here's another look at about I know it's been three years but a vowed is getting ready it's coming next year right here's some you know uh project Belfry or one of the other project games that jazz leaked that he probably never should have leaked because they're all way too early right uh yeah well you should have stopped me bro I tried stopping every single time you try to you try to leak an Xbox game I always try not to do it like compulsions game like they're going to have to at least show you the games that are coming next year because nobody knows after Forza Motorsport when anything's coming and then it's like well if they're gonna also look at a the 12-month showcase do anything for us no it didn't it actually created expectations we couldn't live up to uh we're gonna ditch that and then maybe they show some things they're further off like Fable for example I know people want to see fable I mean even if that game is supposed to launch in 2025 I mean why couldn't you show something this year even if it doesn't even if it is two years out you know so I'm just saying like both PlayStation and Xbox are in a similar way where you don't know what else is coming and they're both going to have to tell you like hey this is what 2024 looks like at the very minimum they're gonna have to show you what next year looks like and then maybe some give they give you some Peaks into further you know further down down the road which is why that's it's all incredibly exciting because it's all new right they Xbox can't rely on Starfield and redfall again you know so it's like the games that they're going to show granted might be stuff you've seen before but it's basically going to be a brand new look at it so both these showcases are super exciting to me simply based on those facts because they have to show you new stuff first looks at new games and you know uh maybe gameplay looks finally for the first time with release dates on stuff you know I don't know that's the one that's why we're walking at it I'm expecting a lot of new stuff at the show and yes some of it unfortunately leaked thanks to some leaker um what leaked I don't know oh you're talking about are you talking about uh the wandering who they're wondering who and the what now but you know all those all the Persona the Persona 3 remake leak that happened on reset error was a big threat on reset air that Persona 3 a remake might be at the Xbox show yes yeah well I I just mean like it would have been new stuff if like that massive when me and Jeff Grubb were just oh yeah when you guys were talking about games project dragon and project Shaolin and project uh project booty kisser you know project booty kiss I mean isn't that one of the games you leaked project booty kisser yeah maybe this I don't know project boo kisser I don't know what what are those what are the code names for the new Xbox consoles I almost got you I almost got you [Laughter] got you I was really confused though why did you ask that I don't know yeah I thought maybe you might have had them and we could have we could have had a podcast that was one for the ages where VGC and IGN and I'm like Jess Gordon leaks projects uh whatever would be for you know the new console what are you gonna say then I would for whatever in my mind I'd like would say project Spartacus but I I bought a curse yeah I don't know I don't know it was just it was a size spoken it was like uh it was like it was just a word that popped into my head but I was kind of thinking like wasn't Spartacus one of the PlayStation code names but no that was like Neo and Trinity and stuff from like the PS4 I believe it was like a PS4 Pro no I think Spartacus was a PlayStation was it was it a PlayStation thing yeah I think it was yeah um I thought you were going to say Spartan because that was the code name for Microsoft Edge project Spartan yeah project spawn I suppose because it was gonna have Cortana in it maybe and then Cortana died yeah rip well if you guys are enjoying the show make sure you hit the like button uh please share this out let everybody know we're live and subscribe if you haven't we hit 94 000 only six thousand more to go maybe we get to 100k this year maybe there'll be a podcast in the future or Xbox two's on camera I I don't know it's a possibility when we get to 100K so yeah I've been losing weight bro back on the weight loss train that's good that's good uh I lost 16 pounds in two weeks there you go what are you eating just mayonnaise uh I mean pretty much just cottage cheese hmm that's it cottage cheese and vitamins pretty much what I made it a fruit yeah I'm back on that train I've been you know trying to get a bit healthy you know before I have to do a load of traveling in June or something where you going in June bro I don't know bro you going places is that is that why we can't really do a show that one week because you might be going places maybe maybe bro um maybe that's interesting oh interesting uh Laverne 98 says the goal post have shifted Xbox can't make great games now it's Xbox can't make triple A games next Xbox can't make AAA games with a story I'll see Le bum or leburn says he already knows the narratives well it's it's it's I was thinking about this today because like you know the narrative was Xbox had no job pgs right like Japan doesn't support Xbox right and yeah the Japan you know still a problem but it's it's a lot a lot of it is basically contained to Square Enix you know they've they're cracked Atlas people ask for Atlas Phil delivered and we've got Yakuza we've even got a sweet kid in probably pronounced that wrong Konami seems to be supporting Xbox you know so now Frugal Melodies of Steel just came out cyber connect was very good game as well so the narratives have to shift away from the Japanese stuff as well um you know we've even got a Kojima bringing out a game yeah man the Persona games are on Xbox which I never thought would ever happen yeah I mean I was just going to say about Street Fighters back on the platform right yeah yeah we even got um uh man what's it called now now the fighting game play is it blaze blue ball tag or something but Xbox is Guilty Gear but they might be losing the Konami games bro Silent Hill 2 timed exclusive maybe Metal Gear Solid 3 remake and Castlevania I mean I'm saying according to the rumors at least well I I've heard now that I've heard now that Mel Gear Solid 3 isn't exclusive to PlayStation oh so now I mean we talked about it last week but you weren't really too sure you said it was going to come to Xbox but you weren't sure about timed exclusivity or whatever now you're just saying that you think it's just what our marketing deal they have maybe no it's in development for Xbox I think well I'm I'm fairly sure it's in development for Xbox I don't know if it's like a marketing Deal Time DLC or something like that but I'm pretty sure Metal Gear is coming to Xbox but I'm not 100 sure yet so take that with a pinch of salt if they do come out and they're like oh yeah it's it's exclusive well we'll find out I just I just uh just I don't know what you just jinx it yeah maybe maybe the rumors are just obfus occasion you know is that I think that's the next name of the metal gear game it's Metal Gear Solid three obstacles you know how they always have those weird weird names like yeah I like subsistence yep and revengeance revengeance and this one's called Metal Gear Solid three obstetrication obfuscation yeah again I mean I guess we'll maybe find out on Wednesday that's the big rumor Metal Gear Solid 3 remake at the show maybe or maybe not exclusive although Jazz Corden says don't believe the hype maybe possibly it might be coming Xbox too I don't know yeah yeah I don't know we'll see we'll see I honestly don't know for sure but I pretty I'm I don't I mean that I'm in the camp that it's not exclusive no okay put it that way fair enough I like that camp I would I mean I play it regardless if it was exclusive to PlayStation if I had to but like I'd much rather want to play it on the superior system with the superior controller and the superior Achievement System um that's where I would choose to play it anyways uh so you didn't care about achievements anymore well no but I mean like I like to I mean I don't in the way where I'm gonna play those stupid ass five minute thousand points that are updated to five thousand simply to keep up and upgrade up your score but like I like seeing like my digital Journey essentially like these are all the things I played from you know 2023 to 2005 because it's a history of what you've essentially done like all the games that you played the achievements that you've gotten it's like a digital footprint uh right and and that's why I play everything you know third part I play everything on Xbox I only really turn on my PlayStation when there's uh an exclusive like I this past uh last year I played out of War Ragnarok and I played God was it I just played God of War Ragnarok and I played stray and sifu and sifu when it came over to Xbox I played it again because I loved it that much and there is uh this this rumor about C stray uh being rated for the SRB but they took it down uh coming to Xbox One Year exclusive probably coming in July I'll probably play that again I did enjoy it enough and it is short enough where it's like okay I'll play it but I'd like to just that's what I like to do and I only have my PlayStation to play the exclusives if this exclusives are the ones I want to play like I'm not interested in Gran Turismo 7. I probably won't be interested in Twisted Metal uh you know I haven't even played the two Horizon games because I just don't care maybe I will play him at some point but you know will I play Spider-Man 2 yeah I really like the last two Spider-Man games like to see what they're gonna do with this one last of us interesting what a friend what if Spider-Man 2 launched in the same window as Starfield which one will you be playing first just hypothetically speaking hypothetically well assuming so like say it was the same week so what's starfield's release date September 6th I think right I think September 6th let's so let's say Spider-Man 2 launches September 9th like that same week and assuming I don't get a review code for Starfield which I probably won't because I didn't get one for redfall um I don't think Bethesda knows who I am fair enough um the thing is is I know Spider-Man to me as well as most PlayStation games and some people will take this as a derogatory way but their games are one and duns for me in fact most games most games 99 of games are one and duns for me I finish it and then I never play it again I delete it and I know Spider-Man will actually probably play Spider-Man less time so to me I'd probably be like I'll do Spider-Man first because once I'm done I'm done and then Starfield can kind of be there's a lot of a lot of exploration you can sort of do in Starfield and I assume would be a longer game that would be my reasoning mostly because it'll be a shorter experience and once it's finished it's finished but um but I don't know it'd be very interesting because not only do you have that you have Mortal Kombat lossing in September now as well September 19th it would definitely be crazy because the man was launching in September wouldn't it ran well there was already a leak from Tony Todd who plays Venom that pretty much said it was coming in September with like commercials yeah we talked about this before in fact it was part of the title for the episode was Starfield versus Spider-Man 2. this was maybe a month ago but yeah Tony Todd was like oh yeah Spider-Man 2 is coming in September they're gonna have commercials and stuff in August and which kind of points to an early September release and I think Spider-Man 2018 came out like September 8th or 7th which would have been like first week so yeah there's a chance Starfield and Spider-Man 2 come out the same week you know okay I thought I was leaking something then oh well what are you looking some Spider-Man's coming in September is this leak you did say yeah you did say on Twitter it did say on Twitter that uh more that uh you knew more about the PlayStation showcase than the Xbox showcase uh uh yeah that's not true anymore that's not true anymore [Laughter] so do you know more about truck showcase now than the PlayStation showcase yes okay anything you want to share I did see the one and only grubster our buddy Jeffy grub grub come out and say that there's gonna be no ghost Shima 2 as well as uh no no Dragon Age new Dragon Age game at PlayStation show I guess um you know do you would would you like to share anything outside of Spider-Man 2 coming in September I guess I'm trying I'm trying to be good I'm not I don't want to spoil surprises I'll let Jeff grow up take all the hair you're gonna like grow up technique well I mean like yeah okay fair enough you want to let the grub take the Heat and usually I'm the good shoulder on your good angel on your shoulder saying don't leave oh it's shoulder on my angel shut up whatever you know what I meant yeah yeah I don't know I I I don't know honestly I don't know that much about PlayStation I know a couple of things but I do know more than a couple of things about the Xbox show but I'm not gonna I'm not gonna leak anything about either because I you know it's it's fun to be surprised I think you know and these shows are at a chance to get surprised you know and yeah so let's let's just wait a bit you know I know I don't actually know that much about it so a lot of it's going to be a surprise to me too there's probably people from Xbox listening to the show right now or be listening to this later hi um how you doing hope you're well uh that are probably listening to this and being like how does this MF or know what's in the Showcase is that supposed to be secret you know yeah well you're not supposed to know these things and if you know these things other people might know these things how long until Tom Henderson leaks this on Insider gaming and has the whole Xbox show up in a post uh on Insider it's Insider gaming right not inside gaming Insider gaming Insider gaming it's just like here's the 30 games that are be at the Xbox Joe just like he did with some other showcases how long before Tom Henderson just post a list of stuff Xbox's show well put it this way if I've some of the stuff that I've heard if if I've heard it I'm pretty sure the people have heard it and it probably will be out there sooner rather than the lab I don't want to be the one I don't want to be the one to do it uh oh it's going to be out there sooner rather than later on we do have a couple weeks to go you might want to mute some things on Twitter you know yeah if you if you don't want to get spoiled like I don't know you can mute mute words and stuff like showcase I guess but yeah um I'm not gonna spoil the Showcase I want to be surprised too to be honest I I was thinking about like how when Killer Instinct was announced that was such a shock to me and it was so nice it was so pleasant I want to feel emotions around I want to feel emotions so and yeah you want you want uh feelings-based jazz I have a feeling spacious I want to have fun I wanna I wanna feel emotions yeah maybe I'm getting old maybe I'm getting old and soft man I don't know um uh biggity 08 says people keep saying live service games were bad at the beginning but are good now will people ever wait two to three years for them to improve it's a tough ask to ask people to wait maybe that worked when there wasn't a lot of live service games like back in the times of Rainbow Six Siege which launched bad when there wasn't a lot of competition but like the whole Space is completely saturated now so if you don't come out and make a splash with a good first impression more than likely your game's just going to get lost in The Ether and you'll be completely high you'll be dead like uh they just uh that vampire that vampire Battle Royale game that came out last year on PlayStation and PC they're already they're basically announced this this week I'm out yeah vampire masquerades or something like that it was a battle royale game that came up for whatever reason it was PlayStation 5 exclusive and on PC and yeah they already a year later they're like we're stopping development on the game so it's another another one to the grave of of live service yeah I didn't even know that came out yeah well I mean you you wouldn't because it was a PlayStation 5 game but I'm just saying like things have changed you need to you need to unless you're tied to a big IP like Halo infinite where you immediately get eyes on you but even still you need to actually have good post launch content which halo didn't uh but you know you just you there's so many games now you need to stand out in some some manner and but a lot of the AAA games these days seem to launch lacking content or uh launch in a horrible performance state right true uh and I was I've been playing one of those recently uh Sebastian Cooper says I don't understand why no one is talking about this but it's leaked now that its software is helping Bethesda with Gunplay for Starfield fact well because um that's really not I mean that's to be expected like this thing is I I have to tell you guys this but they they were they worked on Fallout 4 you know it's not it's not unheard of that it does this um so it they they literally said id contributed to Fallout 4's Gunplay which is why Fallout 4 is Gunplay is like orders of magnitude better than Fallout 3 and Orders of magnitude better than Fallout New Vegas and Fallout New Vegas was like way better Fallout 3 for Gunplay like obsidian added some like uh today and I had iron side timings for some weapons in Fallout New Vegas they did something to the gun player I can't remember exactly what it was it's been so damn long but um but yeah so it's not unheard of that they do this and thank God they are to be honest yeah uh God Emperor shofakim uh Sofa King newest member of the channel appreciate you enjoy the the emotes and stuff uh lokante says anyone think we're seeing the Coalition at E3 I know Jazz would love to see that I would love to see the Coalition I've actually had some very very good things about the Coalition recently oh really um not not as pertains to the Showcase but what they're working on you know I've heard some very good things so I'm I still think the coalition's Microsoft's best Dev you know I mean they're up there for sure who's bad who's better than the coalition um well I mean I had Arcane up there oh I might I might have to distinguish between I might have to distinguish between Arcane Leon and Arcane Austin but I mean either Kane up there I had it software up there um I've you know depending on Fable I think playground's up there like if they can nail Fable I think that puts them higher than the Coalition well yeah I suppose officially speaking playground is probably the best of in terms of raw raw quality and consistent quality it probably is playground but um you know for me it's a coalition and I think I've just heard some really exciting things about them do you think we see gear six or something gears related at the show perhaps maybe a collection of games uh maybe I honestly have known any information about whether the Coalition will be there or not but um you know it's really funny right because I said like there was no there was no gears gears collection right and um when Nick was talking about that I think it was two years ago and um at the time there definitely wasn't but now I'm not so sure and if you are the Coalition and sort of like you've spent a long time not really releasing anything and you know there's there's no there's no real microtransaction nobody's spending micro transactions in Gears 5 at this point so you know if you want to sort of get a bit of Revenue to cash flow the business a little bit offset risk or whatever giz collection at this point makes a lot of sense um you know especially given the fact that they've got like new engine to work with and new tools and it could be a good project for practicing with those tools so I think it makes a lot of sense now um but it definitely didn't used to exist sorry Nick forever but yeah I don't know we'll see we'll see if it exists or not yeah I mean I guess it's possible you know I would imagine if a gears collection exists you'd want to put that out before gear six yeah you're like and if gear six is 2025 then you know maybe a good release would be uh 2024 to get here's the three gears games here's some multiplayer get people back into the game and boom gear six is the year after or two years after or whatever I mean very similar to how they did gears ultimate and then a year later was gears four I'm pretty sure that's how that worked out yeah yeah yeah I think that could do something like that I think could could make some decent money and you know if they bring all the multiplier stuff together and you know and maybe don't be so don't be greedy with it don't put tons of Market transactions in it you could also win back some Goodwill I suppose yeah um but we'll see we'll see what happens uh biggity 08 remember for two months hit that like button folks indeed if you're enjoying the show make sure you hit the like button please and subscribe if you're news it's all greatly appreciated um some people are saying scale Bound in chat and Spartacus was the PlayStation Plus Code Name I knew Spartacus was something PlayStation related I was like oh it's Spartacus I was like wait a minute oh that's PlayStation something uh Jacob says I've lost faith in PlayStation almost completely okay well hopefully I don't know I mean Jake he says he's lost faith in it uh maybe the Showcase will give you that Faith back DB Cooper obsidian says am I a joke to you yeah what about obsidian jazz yeah obsidian is pretty good you know but I really I really want to see them step up to that next level I like you know I love I love pillars but at the end of the day it's like you know it's a unity game you know it doesn't have any it doesn't have super amazing Graphics like what the Coalition is capable of obscene is a really great um ground is really amazing but again it's it's you know it's it's side project because it's also a side project I really want to see them step up and I think they will we'll see we'll see we'll see what avowed and their Awards too looks like someone in chat goes uh ever since Jazz has had more responsibility and been sober for the show he's not leaking as much yeah it's true it is true actually like you know I'm managing it so like I haven't written at all this week basically I've wrote like two little news posts or something like usually back in the day I'll be pumping out like two or three other tours a week and I've just managed to put in like two news posts while I have like 50 000 meetings and then also like you know training new stuff and stuff like that I swear it's really weird but you know gotta pay the bills I'm I'm determined to move out of my girlfriend's parents house before I'm 40. so I'm desperately saving up money to try and like get a house or something but you know in this economy Rand have you seen the economy yeah editing says from what you know which one has has you more excited oh that's uh it's uh it's a loaded question which one has he more excited oh about the Showcase yeah PlayStation versus Xbox I mean of what I know honestly I think place the PlayStation's got more stuff that will appeal to me in it to be quite completely transparent um but I I don't know that much about either sure so you know there could be stuff Xboxes show that you know I'm eager to find out more about like uh our history Untold I know Iran doesn't care about that strategy game and I know you know not a lot of people care about strategy games but I do love me some Forex strategy so I'm eager to find out what you know what they're doing to bring some you know uniqueness to the genre because honestly I feel like you know Paradox and civilization and you know a lot of these games they're just you know Age of Wonders even age one is four it's it's cool but it's again it's still just safe at the end of the day a little bit different and it's not that different from Age of Wonders planetfall either so I'm really intrigued to to see you know what our history Untold does to earn its place in the genre and not just be another you know for the sake of it Forex strategy game but yeah you know I need to learn more and I need to see more I'm I'm hopeful you know that Xbox is going to deliver and generally Xbox showcases have been pretty good it's just that you know we end up either the games they show end up not being particularly great or they end up taking a million years to make you know it's why we talk about the elusive five I really want to see yeah if I um I'm you know I really want to see the games that I want to see I want to see about if a vowed looks great then yeah you've already seen it looks great yeah I've seen pre-alpha footage sure yeah and from what I've heard it looks very different really it looks very different from the pre-alpha foot well I mean it did go through a reboot right to make it bigger essentially yeah yeah I mean yeah like the first iteration I I wouldn't even call it a reboot it was just like you know this this was the first slice they made and they're like okay that's good let's you know now make the real client or something it's kind of the impression I got from the the discussions I heard um but yeah I've heard that it's way more interesting and way more because I said before that it looked like it looked like the outer world the Skyrim right because the outer world had the stylized stylized stuff about it so I'm intrigued to see if it still looks like that or if it looks like something different now but yeah I'm pretty excited about that uh also State the K3 or you know state of the K3 could really bring it around for me as well also gearsible six love me some gears you can find out what they do there so but yeah there's a lot of stuff they could do to to make that show more appealing to me but the stuff that I've heard about right now like I'm not a big Forza guy and some of the games that they're going to show there I'm you know I'm not that hyped for uh personally I think a lot of people here will be hyped for them um I think Rand might be hyped for them oh but not me oh that means Hellboy too yeah boy pretty excited for our blade too no please you've not you've done nothing but slander hellblade like forever on this show like nothing but slander like don't I don't want to see you come around and assume like jazz is sort of you guys remember how Jazz slandered Halo all leading up to launch of infinite slandered the ever loving out of that game every episode Lego game looks like Bob and then it was then played it was like hey it's actually really good really enjoying the multiplayer the story single player was pretty good and then like once everybody started kind of turning on on Halo just was like actually he put he pushed up his glasses and and brought his Fedora down to the to the tip of his nose and was like actually Halo wasn't really any good at all anyways yeah the multiplayer whatever and the single player yeah come on I enjoy seven out of 10 games I mean sure fair enough but like I don't want you to go because nothing because not only do you do this on the show you disparage hellblade to me in the DMS because you know how much I like it so you're just like constantly I just needed to be more gameplay me too sorry me too me too but I'm just saying I don't want you to be like um I'm actually excited for Hellboy too after all if they show that it's more gameplay based than walking based I would be all over that I love the world I love Norse mythology I should love that game but I just don't like walking around in games or in real life bro I like killing things and how blight didn't let me kill things oh if hellblade 2 lets me kill more things I will be totally on that train but right now I don't know if it's gonna let me kill more things it could just be a massive art project that looks very pretty which is great and fine I I like art too but it's not a game if I can't kill things it's not a game it's an art project it's a movie there's nothing wrong with that there's nothing wrong with experiences nothing wrong with games as a movie what if it makes you feel killing things makes me feel bro ah okay fair enough no if if I can only watch killing things in a cut scene then it makes me feel irritated it makes me feel like why can't I do that why why does the why does the NPC get to have all the fun you know can't couldn't they afford to put some combat in this game you know that kind of thing so yeah I need to see some killing please all right oh the one and only Mr Maddie plays drives a Super Chat and says trust me who won't leak it I already tried is this true can you confirm Jazz that Mr Maddie plays try to get you to leak everything to him he's like hey Jazz you know uh why don't you uh you know tell me what's going on at the Xbox show yeah well honestly I don't know that much I only know like I know uh four games four games okay four games I mean it's still but not that doesn't include Forza which we expect so five games if you include Forza so that's all I know you know and if there's going to be you know an average of 30 Games there that's a very tiny amount of show you know so I don't really know that much yeah but I mean it's also two weeks away so time to time to learn more uh Jax 82 says by the time you explore those thousand planets the Starfield Starfield 2 will be out already no no uh fallout 5. follow five um probably won't even be out by that point well dude I've heard some really I've heard some Tim full hack conspiracy theories oh all right ever born saga's not here but let's hear some conspiracy theories all right let's go some people think Starfield is Fallout 5. say what some people think Starfield is Fallout in the future so starf so one of the planets is the planet of Fallout and this is just way into the future yes because because in Tim Kaine said that the the original reason for the vault experiments was to prepare Humanity for Interstellar travel and now there's a there's a Tim four hat conspiracy that um that I can't remember the name of it now but that's in Starfield that Interstellar Corporation or whatever they're called you is actually the successor to voltec interesting would that be a big thing if Starfield was confirmed to be in the Fallout universe I don't know I don't know so we're actually so are you saying one of the planets in Starfield is going to be Fallout 5 essentially where you go there and it's like oh we have fallen at home and Fallout at homes a picture of Starfield and one of the planets is fall out and be like you don't have to wait to 2030 to play Fallout 5 you have the Fallout planet yeah maybe I don't know like it's it's Earth but destroyed by nuclear war I don't know I don't know it's just it's just a tin Fallout thing I think Mr Matty player has already already mocked this I'm sure this uh this Theory but hey who knows man who knows uh we have a Brett Bingham saying just just confirm just confirmed Killer Instinct 2 announcement oh did you no I did not I did not yeah I don't know damn I don't even I don't even know if that that thing exists man um it's fun to think about but I don't think it exists we have Eduardo MLS PlayStation announces showcase delivers it seven days later Xbox announces one month in advance and we have all this waiting what's best greetings from Portugal well they're serving two different sort of things Xbox is kind of having like a physical get-together right Fan Fest media kind of all going to be there so like where PlayStation is kind of hey it's just a showcase it's digital there's really nothing else going on but Xbox is doing like so that you have to announce it way in advance because people have to have their plans about whether or not they're going to be in La around that time it'll be totally different if Sony was also sort of doing uh something similar to a Fan Fest or there was going to be opportunities for press and influencers and stuff because they would have to have some lead time um ask for what's best I mean that depends do you like a one month lead-in all the talk and speculation about what potentially could be there or do you like only having to wait seven days I mean I I see benefits and cons to both pros and pros and cons to either one right um it just depends on really what you prefer you know yeah uh what do you prefer what do I prefer yeah what do you prefer bro um I well I don't know it feels like we've known the date for the Xbox showcase since last year anyways is like we all sort of just knew they're just gonna do it on the same date a year from now so it's like it's it's not like even though they officially announced it a month ago like they had already had already talked about it even before that um it kind of gives me shades of older E3 where there's a lot of like lead up build up that spans over the course of time uh whereas like PlayStation is very much like they announced something and it like hits and it's like oh by the way you don't have to wait very long uh because it's it's next week so I don't know I like honestly I'm not sure which one I prefer um to be honest with you like I sometimes like there is this thing where I like the long lead-in where you can hear more about stuff where you can have more time to discuss things versus like oh by the way this happens in five days I think Xbox has to do it this way because people have to plan travel they have to you know if people are going to farmfest they have to plan travel you have to get hotels and the the more the more lead time you've got the cheaper it is so you know if they announced if they announce Fan Fest like the the week before you're looking at like a million million billion dollars for a hotel so Xbox has no choice but to do it this way at the end of the day but right yeah um Alexander dark91 well and also when they didn't do it do it like that back in 2020 when there wasn't like The Fan Fest thing and I think even 2021 uh they didn't they they didn't announce those like far in advance like those were announced like a couple weeks in advance maybe a week in advance because you don't need that much prep time for a digital showcase without any physical presence but because it has a physical presence they have to announce things earlier um Alexander dark says Jazz with what you know about the Xbox show are you hyped also do you think Xbox saves any announcements for quakecon a very similar Super Chat to what you've already said so I guess like you already talked about if you're hyped do you think Xbox saves any announcements for quakecon because there's still the whole hey is Bethesda going to be at the show um because it's just called the Xbox game showcase and Starfield is on afterwards so you know does does do they have any anything from Bethesda or do they wait for quakecon what do you think it's really hard to say I don't know like what the priority how the priority of quite con in in Microsoft's you know mentality because the end of the day you know the Xbox brand is on the back foot right now and they kind of need everything they can to pull pull it out of that you know you've got IGN right in mean articles and stuff like that and I expect more of those kind of Articles to come uh especially if the Showcase doesn't deliver um so I kind of think I kind of feel like you need to pull out all the stops at this showcase if you want to change the media narrative around um but at the same time I think there'll be stuff at quakecon as well maybe it would be like a more in-depth more in-depth looks at things you know a DLC maybe a quakecon maybe smaller game announcements like if they're you know I think they announced that they were bringing back uh Doom was it Doom 2 I can't remember no it was quite Quake one I think like one remastered or something I can't remember what it was but there was like some smaller re-release of one of their smaller games or one of their older classic games or whatever I think that was a quake on I could be wrong about that actually yeah I think like um I think you're gonna see the bulk of the announcements at this show I don't think there'll be anything at Gamescom either you know right very very little I'm not even going to bother going to Gamescom this year I think we'll see uh Jacob says no offense to Jazz but I agree with Rand I would go so far to say that I hate Jim Ryan's way of thinking Blockbuster's meta not taking risks um I mean I agree in a way you know I think like it's a good thing that Xbox guns for variety it is a good thing right but you know it's really not helping them uh commit to Quality quality control which you think when you have like when you have like um brand perception to worry about it does give the track it gives the tractors a lot of ammunition right I think For Better or Worse um but maybe they should just stick to their guns and just keep plowing ahead with that sort of unique variety maybe Game Pass means none of that stuff matters anyway so I mean I never said that I didn't want to see the variety you know I'm not sure what you're disagreeing with exactly to be honest yeah what's your disagreement um I don't know I'm not too sure I think um I think Xbox just needs to be able to do both I want to see more I want to see the variety but I also want to see I want to see the you know the AAA bangers quote-unquote whatever whatever that means I want to see those too I think they should be able to do both yeah uh Dia solman says Jazz what makes pillars Universe interesting compared to other fantasy universes because you you actually like the pillars universe and that's what a vowed is yeah I I love the pillars universe and I think like kind of pill what pillars gives me is kind of like that sort of the old school feel that I don't feel like I get from Dragon Age anymore you know it's kind of that very gritty sort of do they call it high fantasy I think when it's sort of like grounded in realism fantasy it's almost like Diablo Diablo in a way super gray super dark a very dangerous world you know where you you know you step outside the castle walls and there's monsters and things creeping around and now some of the stuff in Pillars of pillars of Eternity man like truly shocking you know some of the site like the side quests are really high quality as well I think like with with pillars of Eternity one of the things I really loved about that game is that obsidian um that obsidian sensibility towards branching narrative which again AAA Triple A players don't do anymore and I think the reason they don't do it is telemetry you know they do Telemetry where um uh where they you know I remember when EA they released a bunch of stats after Mass prep relaunched and they were like only 20 of people players are Renegade right so what did they do in Mass Effect Andromeda they took away being a renegade it Mass Effect Andromeda because the Telemetry said nobody wanted to play as a renegade but what they didn't think about was that the people who chose paragon their decisions no longer had any weight because it was no longer their choice you have to play as a paragon now you cannot play as anything else so you know when you strip away choice because you're Telemetry says well people didn't pick this option which means they didn't like it that means they liked the choice you did give them you know so I think a lot of AAA developers have just sort of Stripped Away on some of that stuff which is why I'm worried about Dragon Age dread wolf because I think Dragon Age dread Wolf's gonna be the same thing where you just don't have any choice like even um even Dragon Age Inquisition like the choices didn't matter in Dragon Age Inquisition as much as they mattered in Dragon Age 2 which didn't matter as much in Dragon Age Origins you know and it's it's a really sad thing you know some of the stuff you could do in Dragon Age Origins was hilarious you know you could be like you could be really nasty you know and I love that stuff I always pick that stuff if there's an opportunity to be so to do that and then you can you know the replayability you can play it again as and to the other option like there were so many ways in Dragon Age Origins to um to complete the the forest quest with the werewolves and stuff there's so many ways you could complete that Quest you know and pillars of Eternity is the same way where it's like there's so many ways to complete the quest so I really like I'm hoping that we're the vowed we get some of that DNA back we get some of that your decisions actually matter back like even Todd Howard admitted in some of the interviews about Starfield that Fallout 4 lost its way where some of the um some of the decisions you make in Fallout 4 didn't have anywhere near as much impact as Fallout 3 or New Vegas or even Skyrim or even Oblivion you know and Fallout 4 was just like you know because they didn't have the silent protagonist and they they didn't want to do all the the voiceovers or something I don't know uh for all the different outcomes like you'd get you'd get four dialogue options and like two of them will be yes and two of them would be no and then all four options lead to the same outcome you know um I hated that so much about Fallout 4 even though like I did put a lot of hours into it it was mostly Base building because the the branching narrative was almost non-existent so I'm hoping if I would bring some of that back not only brings it back but also makes it a trend again and then we just start getting more games like that again but we'll have to wait to see painful discourses is great name a game plate confined um dead penises based on what Jazz knows would this show be the one I mean he already said he knows like four or five games at the Xbox show and maybe the similar amount to PlayStation and yeah like I already said if you go back and watch the last two shows there's like 30 plus games so like four or five based off of 30. there's a hell of a lot more that we're going to make or break the show as some people like to to say right like the show is so important it needs to if it sucks well then you know it's over yeah it's doom doom and gloom Andrew 13 outer worlds teas outer worlds teases at the end it that it's a Fallout Universe well it started off as like a Fallout uh obsidian's version of Fallout so I I don't know if you see that happening uh bigfo man 14 ran I know you've gotten better at Pokemon names so pronounced blast hose again kofigris inti and mimikyu oh you got mimiky he also says Jazz only one can go Pokemon or World of Warcraft Pokemon uh I I would like a thousand times put uh World of Warcraft to save that Supernova says Rand are you celebrate broadcasting 10 hours of content about Pokemon after the APK deal closes no there'll be no celebration about Pokemon whatsoever so I really want to do another charity run plays dumb game now we're not doing we're not we're not doing one of those ever again we've raced like a 100 I know we did but like nobody nobody nobody nobody wants nobody in chat wants to see me suffer again like that right yeah they do I think they do bro no I think chat chat wants to see you suffer for children power right and I veto it I certainly certainly want to see yourself of charity I veto it and if anybody in China if anybody in chat says they want to see me play Pokemon I'll just ban them I'll Shadow ban them they'll let their voices will never be heard again so be careful wow that's mean well since you do the last time like you maybe we could do it the other way this time maybe you make me play a terrible game oh terrible I'll make you play a good no I'll make you play good ones that you have to actually finish it see look at look at every look at everybody in Champion like we're you're right we don't want to see you in pain like you're so nice everybody in chat's so nice to me like yeah don't play Pokemon we don't want to see you suffer amazing Xbox 2 Community we have look at look at everybody all concerned about my my well-being they don't want me to play Pokemon so they're just ha hahaha uh jax82 says if the Xbox shows stuck sucks starts let late blame Jazz yeah blame you for everything blame Jazz um so I figured since I've played enough of the game now I want to talk briefly about Star Wars Jazz Star Wars uh Jedi Survivor um you guys are enjoying the show make sure you hit the like button and please subscribe I am 30 30 hours in and I'm I think I'm at the end or at least close to the end and God damn what an incredible game this is whoo they they made some really strong improvements from the first game although I will say it has one of the worst performance modes I've ever seen for a game it does not run well in the Xbox series X whatsoever um I mean some of it's saved by VR like vrr like that's my biggest complaint about the game is that the frame rate is awful and the game is so good it like outshines the poor performance in certain areas um but otherwise like they created a sequel that improves on pretty much everything that I really liked about the first one and it does a thing that I I hate a games do where you you you you you take a character and you you build them up and they become super powerful and then the second game they like take all the all the stuff they learn away so now you gotta like learn all those things again like they give you all this stuff right away from the very beginning um and I would say probably my biggest outside of the performance for this game is probably the lack of rewards for Pure exploration because most of the rewards you get scattered around are either things you can you find that you can buy Cosmetics for your character or new colors or chests that have like new haircuts and new lightsabers like a lot of the expiration is cool from a gameplay perspective of seeing how they built everything very similar to like Elven Rings world where you're like God damn like how do they build all this intercon intercon intercon uh what's what I'm trying to say interconnectivity right where it's like how everything like folds back in on itself and it's really cool to like go through an area and do all the jumping uh puzzles and stuff to get to find this one thing and then it wrapped back around so you can have an easy way to exit right I was so mind blown in album ring where you come what's the castle called the first castle you come to where you fight um after you fall what's his face with the staff I can't remember his name either um the blood Omen guy that that castle I was just like how did they do this in an open world like it's it's a technical Marvel man but yeah continue well yeah and the second that first you start off in Coruscant and then the next planet you go to is like massive it is so huge and there's so there's not a lot of planets to go to in this one compared to the first I think but that world Kobo is absolutely massive and it constantly gets bigger and bigger but like the expiration aspect outside of like trying to find everything and enjoying how they built it a lot of the end rewards just are lame it's like oh I got a mullet for my character or I got a new paint job for my lightsaber so it's very similar to like the God of War exploration where like a lot of the stuff you get is just like oh I got a new armor piece or I got some like what is the the currency in God of War like you don't really get anything I don't know that that really that really makes you smile that gives you those um that like adrenaline boost when you find something super cool it's just cosmetic stuff and it's and even and at first it's like you're loving playing the game but then like you're like I don't want another chest it's like what am I doing like why am I exploring this stuff like um I I don't really like that I don't like opening up a chest and getting a mustache you know what I mean like it was so cool in all the ringway like you go off the beaten path and you find like some absolutely insane weapon or something it's just like oh now now I'm like 10 times more powerful they're really nailed that game yeah well I mean they're they're that's not to say there aren't some things you can find like you got obviously your you can increase your health or increase your Force find force tiers uh that give you some sort of challenge to get more skill points and stuff like that uh so there are it's not it's not a stat based game is it no not really not really yeah it's not like your lightsaber improves or anything right well that's I suppose that's the issue with exploration it's like if you don't have like a robust RPG layer where you can make a character build you know another ring it's like yeah we can we can slap something there for casters or or in Diablo you can be like well we'll slap I don't know this boss has a high chance to drop a a spell but a specific type of Druid you know I suppose if your game isn't really an RPG at the end of the day and you suppose you're kind of limited with what kind of rewards you can give I mean I I'm as I was saying that I started remembering Assassin's Creed 1 and the exploration amounted to like getting Flags do you remember the flags and this is the screen yeah I remember yeah uh but yeah the story is pretty good uh the combat is like amazing I I I'm still like blown away that they are able to basically make a Star Wars into a Dark Souls game because that's you know essentially what this is and it's just incredible to just play through it even though the frame rate sucks on performance mode and the VR helps but doesn't like completely Wash It Away um I I've kind of flipped back and forth between quality mode and like in quality Mode God damn the game looks incredible especially on like Coruscant and some of the lightings they do on the different planets but like every day I kind of get on and play for like five hours and I'm like always even even on 30 hours in I'm Still Loving exploring everything like there was a point I usually get in open world games like a Dead Island 2 or ghostwire Tokyo where it they're very enjoyable and I I like both games but at some point you're like over the exploration and you kind of just want the game to be kind of reach its conclusion like it overstate its welcome because I tend to like to do everything in the game or everything in a section before moving on and Jedi kind of Doles it out we're like oh you can't explore everywhere because you need the new abilities that you eventually get I'm over 30 hours in this and I haven't hit that point where I'm like I just want this to be over and you have the different like you have you have the five different lightsaber stances they give you in this one cross guard Blaster dual wield the double lightsaber and the single one I've been using Blaster and dual wield the whole game and maybe that's another uh misstep the game has because the way the skills are kind of set up where since you can only hold two lightsabers dances at a time it basically kind of forces you to really only invest in two of the lightsaber's stances right because you can only hold two at once and there's five of them and you still have different trees for your your your your like health and things like that nature and you're forced stuff so it kind of just forces you to pick two stances so I sort of I like dual wield right from the beginning compared to single and the double-bladed because it was new because I did single and double-bladed last game so I was like I wanted a different stance so I was like all right you know I'm gonna use this this dual wield and it and it's it's great and then I got the Blaster stance and I'm like wow this is really good because it gives you a lot of range with the Blaster and you can close a lot of distance with some of the ability so I'm like this is way better than the other ones and then you get cross guard but by the time I got cross guy I was like well I'm so invested in these other two I'm just gonna kind of delegate my points my points into getting like better like you know Force push and force lift and stuff like that right um so but other than that like it's right up there with Hi-Fi rush for my game of the year I I know like Resident Evil 4 is right there like Resident Evil 4 is a remake but God damn it was so incredible and so it's like so like so for me it's like the three games are basically I it basically comes down to I think how Star Wars is gonna end right I'm not at the ending yet but Hi-Fi Rush got better as it went uh Star Wars Jedi Survivor has mostly remained at a high consistent level and it is kind of increasing there was anybody who's played it there was a moment on Jetta during one of the main missions where the set piece that they LED you on and through bro I was so hyped my jaw kind of dropped on the floor for what was going on and it's been a while for a set piece like that to really kind of amaze me or I was like holy crap this is actually happening um anybody anybody who's played the game probably knows exactly what's that piece I'm talking about on Jetta and actually there's kind of two set pieces on Jetta but the first one was the one that was like holy man respawn knows exactly what they're doing you you need to finish the first game well yeah I mean that's that's a problem that's the problem because you don't finish games I did I finished um oh what's it called the rifle I finished read four God this is depressing one of the only guys I finished this year's bro oh man and then like the next game I'm gonna play Diablo is is unfinishable though great yeah look at everybody in chat we have uh all mice's Jetta was mind-blowing spaced overkin insane moment Abdel says that moment was insane scored it says that set piece was mind-blowing um yeah bro I was sit I was like wow like this is actually like this was that was so freaking cool and it's it's been a while since the game delivered on that front like something you really weren't expecting and something that really damn cool that happened um it was their respawn is such an incredible Studio from Apex Legends to Titanfall to now Star Wars I mean and you talk about two different types of games right Apex Legends to Star Wars it couldn't be any more different than each other right but bro where's my time where's my time no where's Titanfall three um but yeah like I said it's it's up there it's like basically a three-way tie right now between Hi-Fi rush so Jedi Survivor and Resident Evil 4. and I kind of put at least oh would weigh more towards originality so I would probably put Hi-Fi rush and Star Wars kind of closer to and above Resident Evil 4 because like Resident Evil 4 is also it's incredible what they did but it's also built off the bones of an incredible game already right um yeah but like bro this year has been insane I am loving this year so far despite the fact that redfall was a turd uh from one of my favorite Studios uh the base this year has been probably the best year so far of this of this whole generation um yep I agree wholeheartedly bro 11 11 Star Wars and we'll see how it ends um but yeah what else Jazz um all right let's talk about well let's talk about some ABK stuff some ABK things rajendra says the Jazz finish Persona 5 no of course not just finished games I mean of course not I'm getting from it gradually yeah I'm able to put a time limit on this next time well I'm 50 hours in so it's not it's not like I'm not gonna finish still got another 50 60 hours to go you're not even halfway bro you're not even at the final form yet well have you finished it uh no no I haven't played I haven't played any of the person should I play Persona 5 and people tell me I should but no you won't like it I won't like I want like Persona okay it's it's demonic Pokemon I don't know about Persona no I don't really know much about this Pokemon man it's Pokemon it's demonic Pokemon so instead of Pokemon you you get demons personas and then you equip them and use their spells and stuff as well as it it's a very it's a very gross oversimplification to call it that but it's kind of like the personas you equip uh I guess similar to material from Final Fantasy 7 but that again that's another oversimplification um but yeah this is the base of the game uh but yeah you won't like it man okay I mean same maybe maybe I need to start from the beginning with Persona 3 remake whenever that comes out huh you have to start from Persona one if you want to go oh yeah I suppose so I suppose so a jade red in the Super Chat says Gears of one Mad World trailer is one of the best trailers ever made it's been too long since Xbox unable to generate hype on that level that's a pretty hyped trailer it's pretty goddamn hype it was Joe yeah have they created a game another another hype moment like that since then I mean Halo 3's trailer and goes pretty damn hype but I mean the fact I have to even go think about all the way back then yeah I mean I I guess I mean because most of people wrote off Xbox during the Xbox one gen and a lot of their announcements really didn't light the world on fire uh so yeah I mean you might be you might be in the ballpark one of the yeah but people still talk about that gears trailer still to this day which shows the power it did have right um what else we got here um let's talk about ABK because that was it's not just about ABK because the European commission approved the deal but also China approved it as well uh yeah but nobody's really talking about the China thing and we'll get to that when we get to that it's mostly about the CMA uh because European commission basically came to well this they had the same concerns as CMA right initially for their preliminary settings right uh preliminary investigation they were worried that the deal would reduce competition in the console space uh reduce competition and multi-game subscription and reduce competition in the cloud right and both Regulators came to the conclusion that that wouldn't reduce anything in the console space and it wouldn't really reduce anything in multi-game subscriptions so Game Pass wasn't going to dominate uh Sony wasn't going to be threatened in fact the European commission basically says that Sony could easily weather it if Microsoft even took it exclusive right uh basically throwing all of Sony's arguments that they talked about like oh we can't live without Call of Duty and all the things they said when all this whole deals happened they basically said no that doesn't doesn't matter but they did agree with the CMA that cloud was a problem that there could be a substantial lessening of competition in Cloud so I was okay we know the CMA blocked on cloud to the shock of everybody including Microsoft but it seems the European commission was more understanding because they accepted the remedies that Microsoft was was offering um Brad Smith had tweeted out the day that it happened that the European commission has required Microsoft to license popular Activision Blizzard games automatically to competing cloud gaming services this will apply globally and will Empower millions of consumers worldwide to play these games on any device they choose so that's interesting because Microsoft had entered into deals with cloud-based companies like boosterloid and ubidos and Nvidia in fact some of the Nvidia Xbox games already being added I think right now like gears 5 was just added to Nvidia right so that that deals sort of being consummated um Lulu uh she had an interesting uh set of tweets about this a lot of people are really mad at Lulu I mean I I I can't imagine why she says Activision blizzards plans to meaningfully expand our investment and Workforce through the EU throughout the European Union and we're excited for the benefits our deal with Microsoft offers players in Europe and elsewhere which is contrast to what Bobby kotik said about the UK where he said UK is closed for business and the tech is tax sector is going to leave where she's basically saying we're going to expand our investment and work for us throughout the EU today the European commission approved our merger with Microsoft subject to strict remedies to ensure robust competition continues in our rapidly growing industry um and with the eu's firm yet pragmatic unbiased and fact-driven approach to regulation we expect these European teams to continue delivering growth and Innovation going forward now I could be wrong and Lulu likes to call up people when they make kind of generalizations or summarize stuff that's wrong but that tweet to me is like pure shots fired at the CMA like else pragmatic she's basically saying the CMA is the opposite of pragmatic which would be the opposite of pragmatism uh you're the writer not us may I'm not right oh yeah so the opposite of pragmatic she's basically implying the cma's biased right because she says I'm biased and that the European Union did fact-driven approach counter to I guess what the CMA did which would be non-fac-based driven base driven one year of biased uh you know when when you have a bias that you want to work towards um and then maybe the most surprising thing of all this was the CMA had a response immediately within a couple of minutes within a couple minutes the CMA came out trying to justify their actions trying to justify their decision and uh they said here's our response to the European commission's announcement today the UK U.S and European competition authorities are unanimous that the merger would harm competition in cloud gaming the CMA concluded that cloud gaming needs to continue as a free competitive market to drive Innovation and choice in this rapidly evolving sector Microsoft proposals accepted by the European commission today would allow Microsoft to set the terms and conditions for this market for the next 10 years they would replace a free open and competitive market with one subject to ongoing regulation of the games Microsoft sells the platforms to which the sells them and the conditions of sale this is one of the reasons the cma's independent panel group rejected Microsoft proposals and prevented this deal while we recognize and respect the European commission is entitled to take a different view the CMA stands by its decision basically saying we're right you're wrong right and yes I said in my video ah smells of weakness desperation almost to a certain extent that they had to even respond not only respond but respond immediately like they were f5ing Twitter and waiting to see the decision so they could say it's like they knew they were going to be under Fire and they needed to uh justify that is the the conclusions that they came to to the consistent constituents in everybody else and that just smells a pure weakness to me I don't know what you're reading all this jazz I think the read is ultimately that is political now the CMI is completely independent and a lot of a lot of the UK's um historical sort of uh approach to some governmental institutions is that they should operate independently right there was this whole sort of massive argument that Elon Musk triggered when he said the BBC is government funded right the BBC is paid for with taxes but they are completely independent of the government well in theory I mean that's that's a debate for another day but you know at least historically the BBC has been independent of the government and uh this the BBC chairman recently had to resign because it came out that he'd it helps Boris Johnson the former prime minister secure alone so that violates impartiality potentially so you know there is there are Regulators that regulate our Regulators in the UK supposedly now it's become political because um one of the the big the big issue plague in the UK right now is this concept of making brexit work the current government told everyone that brexit was a good idea and that we should go with it and that it's going to be great and we're going to make it work we'll be like Singapore you know we'll be deregulated and there'll be tons of business and it'll be great we'll be able to get rid of all those nasty regulations from Europe uh supposedly and that would be all great but so far it's it looks like Britain is poorer it's less free because we can no longer set the terms of any of the deals we do and it's just the worst of all worlds so it basically breaks it was a massive con so it's become politically sensitive because supposedly this government was all about deregulation deregulation deregulation to attract businesses to attract American Tech businesses who who are in the trillions of dollars and attract investment in the country because they can they can they can depend on the fact that they won't be impeded by arbitrary government decisions but here we are with a with a government mandated body independent or not they are a government mandated body subject to legislation of the current system and they are impeding investment in the UK through arbitrary and aggressive uh regulation you know it's the opposite of what the government said they want to do and to be honest that's pretty much part of the course with this government a lot of what they say tends to be the opposite of what they want to do but the thing is it's different when you're screwing over regular people to when you're screwing over a mega corporation like Microsoft who can bring billions of dollars thousands of jobs to your country you know so this has become a politically sensitive now so you've got the CMA out here spamming a tweet which they've never done before at least I couldn't find an example of this I can find a single example of the CMA replying to a contradictory decision from the European commission I've never seen that before ever the CMA out here desperately desperately trying to defend themselves and trying to set narratives trying to you know get out there ahead of ahead of any potential media backlash right because the British media have been very very quiet about this deal so far you've had some Rumblings in the financial times but the the the political press like Daily Mail and the times and Telegraph who really make the decision this country they've been very they've been oddly quiet about this so far I I you know the the right wing press generally I would imagine they would be like if Europe had done this if Europe had done this say for example Europe like for example the CMA allowed the deal to happen and it was Europe who blocked it I can already say that the right wing press here would be putting out articles like crazy Europe blocks British growth in jobs or something like that because you know Microsoft's a major employer in the UK thousands of jobs you've got Ninja Theory you've got playground hundreds and hundreds of devs um are all based here a lot of uh blizzards complicit a lot of um blizzard staff are here too and a lot of um a lot of Microsoft's devs for windows are in the UK as well so you know I can already see what the spin would be on the other on the other side of of the the coin but the the fact that it's the CMA Block in it it's very strange that they'd be they they're being so quiet about it you know but I don't know but it's like I said earlier there are there are much bigger problems facing the UK right now I think if things are a bit quieter around you know um if the if things were you know not as dire as they are with the cost of living crisis and the war and all stuff like that um I think things might be different but yeah I don't know it's it's hilarious watching the CMA twist in the wind and I said at the start of the show the chancellor Jeremy Hunt whose job it is is to grow the UK economy didn't he say something about this deal the director yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah so like his job is to grow the economy his job is to make brexit work and to find Outside investment from these American companies and a lot of the Tory party that their dream is to be closer to America you know to be closer to America where corporations you know dictate to the government rather than the other way around that's their dream but they're not able to fulfill this dream evidently because of the CMA making this decision um so there is a political angle to this and the CMA was in front of a parliamentary committee today to explain some of this stuff they kind of tried to avoid questions about ABK and kind of sidestepped it and they just is stuck to their narrative that oh God what about cloud gaming because obviously MPS they don't know about how big the cloud gaming Market is they don't know it affects maybe about 10 000 people in the UK right now I don't know any of that so that's sort of like they're sort of hoping that they can sort of slip all this under the MP MP's radar but you know increasingly MPS are noticing you know you've got the chancellor out here going like oh God what is the CMA done here you know so that they're saying like CMA should try to remember its wider responsibilities I think Jeremy Hunt said with regards to the APK deal and I think that was sort of like I think that was a sort of a hint um you know him being like this impacts more than just the UK you know it impacts thousands of jobs around the world in Europe and stuff like that and I think what they are probably considering now is the the very real possibility that um Microsoft could just sidestep the UK yeah sidestep the CMA and that would that would be a political nightmare for the government if if Microsoft was just like yeah we're going to close the deal anyway um do your worst to the UK government that will be a massive blow to the UK's credibility because honestly what could the UK do what can the UK find them so what it's it's you know I think Microsoft could just be like we're pulling out of the UK what are you going to do about it we're going to take away windows from all the government's computers every single servant uses surface uh UK is UK's cyber defense network relies on Windows you know there's there's Microsoft and Microsoft's annual turnover in the UK uh profit margin is only 600 million that's like what's that in percentages of what the the ABK deal is like less than one percent so do you think because I know Satya also had an interview someone asked him about the idea of like could you see yourself selling your product in the U.S selling a product and you you you uh the European Union but then not selling the same product in the UK and Satya had a little smirk and said let's see how it plays out now this has led to a whole bunch of speculation regarding exactly what you're talking about and I'll just say like I look I'm not a lawyer I don't know anything about UK law like I don't know how if they could or I don't know all the different angles but this has led a lot of people to discuss exactly what jazz is saying about the idea of like one Xbox and Microsoft pulling completely out of the country which I find absurd I don't think that could happen or like two I know pacter has mentioned like spinning off an Activision UK like an indep like an independent Activision UK closing everywhere else in the world like and then having this like spun off Activision UK subsidiary or something or like geofencing potentially where it's like people in the UK don't get Game Pass or they don't get cloud or they don't get certain games on cloud or something like you're talking about like like those drastic measures correct well who knows man I really think Microsoft could call the UK's Bluff really the UK yeah and you don't think the UK is gonna would call Microsoft's Bluff on the idea of pulling out of the UK and like removing windows and all this like you don't think they would just call or do you think they do you think the point would be I think I think the the embarrassment that it would cause the the British government would be uh astronomical at a time where Britain's business credibility is absolutely on the ropes so I think like it has become political and if I was if I was Microsoft I'd be like you know like sat here with these wry smile to CNBC let's see how it plays out you know and then the next day you've got Jeremy Hunt sort of almost in a with a grave a grovely tone gravel see you mate yeah like are you saying he was almost bending the knee almost been in the knee yeah and he's kind of like but you gotta you gotta think about this statement right the the specific thing he said was we respect the cma's independence so what what is that that's not him respecting the cma's independence that's him passing the blame that's him saying it wasn't our fault you know the CMA is independent you know so that hey that's not him respecting the CMA that's him passing the blame secondly then him he's like bending the knee to Microsoft by saying um we you know the CMA should think about his wider responsibilities wide responsibilities as in to the UK's business credibility you know the the the the whole sort of narrative that the with the UK is supposed to be this deregulated Haven for business this Silicon Valley in Europe which is what Richie's sonax aspires to be now I really want people to understand I am not advocating for deregulation you know I'm definitely not that kind of guy you know I'm not I'm not a Libertarian for God's sake I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy and how hilarious it is that this was their plan their plan was deregulation and they're not getting it they're getting the opposite of their regulation so in this case a bit of deregulation will probably help you know but generally speaking regulations are good thing nobody nobody with their right mind with a with a would say that we should live in a world like Bioshock where nothing's nothing's regulated and you know people can be bought and sold and and all that kind of stuff indentured servitude not nobody wants that kind of reality you know because that that's like that's like ultimate libertarianism right way everything can be bought and sold you need some kind of regulations otherwise you just have Anarchy you just have chaos you know but some this is this is a prime example of when regulation just does something stupid and it's when they don't it's usually technology work because you know a lot of the people who work at these places they're not experts about technology so they kind of have to take people's word for it and you there could be a there could be someone who just doesn't want the deal to go through for whatever ideological reason you know like the FTC saying the big Tech bad big Tech bad and we heard this over and over and over again so like no one's arguing for the regulation where everyone should be arguing for smart regulation uh but it's just hilarious that you know the one of the benefits of brexit was supposed to be that we get rid of the European unions supposed aggressive regulation because European Union The Narrative the media spins here about the European Union is that it's all red tape businesses can't Thrive because Europe has all this red tape well hang on a sec if if Europe is that Europe's the one with all this red tape why are they approving the deal so you know it's it's just that kind kind of hilarious hypocrisy and that hilarious sort of epic value that is the Tory government they are they are the most catastrophic clown-like morons that I've ever known in my life I'm talking about the CMA I'm talking about the guy no I know I know I have some visual aid here okay give me a visualize no so so you're gonna have to bring up the podcast so I'm gonna I'm gonna unhide this now so I put it I put it I put it up here so everybody can see it while we're talking about the CMA and it's the tweet that clover put out with the meme of um uh The Simpsons mean with uh uh God I forget the I forget I forget his name it's not Smithers it's uh it's uh it's the it's it's the school it's the school principal saying am I out of touch oh oh God I forget I forget his name right so he's sitting there like thinking this he's the CMA saying am I out of touch and he says no it's everybody else who's wrong and clobber had this image where it lists like all the other countries that have proved the deal Austria Belgium Brazil Bulgaria Chile China Croatia Cyprus Czech Republic Denmark Estonia Finland France Germany Greece uh Hungary Iceland Ireland Italy Japan uh lots of Lithuania Lexington Stein Liechtenstein Malta uh Netherlands Norway Poland Portugal Romania Saudi Arabia um Slovakia Slovenia South Africa Spain Sweden and Ukraine and I just I don't know it couldn't be more appropriate am I out of touch no it's all the other Regulators that are that are wrong right I don't know I thought that was I thought that was pretty funny someone should email that to the CMA I I did see people uh tagging uh them in it so I'm I'm sure I'm sure they've seen it uh I'm sure there's social media in terms of seeing it but someone needs to send it to the head of the CMA because she's just I kind of feel like she means well like you watch her in the MPS committee you can you can I don't think she's lying but she's just ignorant you know sadly which is these sad State of Affairs for our civil service a lot of the time ignorance so um but China also recently approved the deal as well they actually approved it today and they had um what did they say about this I'm trying to find the the thing here we have China uh Tom Warren tweeted out Microsoft confirms China State's Administration for Market regulation has unconditionally approved so no not like basically no nothing no concessions unconditionally approved as acquisition of Activision's blizzard making it the 37 country to support the deal quote China's unconditional clearance of our acquisition of Activision Blizzard files clearance decisions from jurisdictions such as the European Union and Japan bringing the total of the 37 countries representing more than 2 billion people the acquisition combined with our recent commitments to the European commission will Empower consumers worldwide to play more games on more devices and yeah you know like the more and more this kind of goes on right like you're kind of yeah I mean the UK just looks stupid like it's what the UK does we like to look stupid in this country we like to do stupid things like brexit you know that makes no sense and make everyone poorer and this is just another one of them it's like the The Regulators will be like oh yeah we're saving you from this deal we're saving you Dom consumers from the deal well like Call of Duty you'll probably end up in Game Pass in every other country but Britain I kind of feel like that that's the way it will go that's the way the deal happens is that Microsoft's just like okay fine we'll leave everything as is in the UK so you guys can be happy and The Regulators will pack themselves on the back thinking they're preserved some imaginary UK cloud gaming market like this this is your this is this is the hill you want to die on UK cloud gaming Market I don't know I kind of feel like eventually the government might just step in because the government can overrun yeah I doubt the government will over they'll put pressure on it I I think it's more likely that the cat will get involved and either a cat would overturn it or the cat would just be like send it back to the CMA but without like the cloud we're like oh oh no your logic here is wrong because I think even the European commission said that kind of poked holes at the cma's whole thing about that math was wrong yeah like every because their whole the cma's whole thing was like every game pass user is a cloud user which is right yeah and the European commission kind of called that out and so it's like there's there's some some well I guess Microsoft's gonna appeal next week or at least file their appeal so we'll know where they're gonna I'll tell you something I'll tell you something someone I don't know if I mentioned this last week maybe I did but someone in the UK sent me a survey that I received um that basically a survey from Microsoft that they had to fill in um as part of market research and one of the questions in the survey was how would you feel if XBox cloud gaming was removed from Xbox game pass Ultima so like that I think Microsoft is literally gauging sentiment here about the idea of in the UK split in Xbox cloud gaming out into its own entity and if you want Call of Duty in Activision games you have to buy the additional subscription in the UK and that would make the regulars happy or something but here's the thing I don't know if the CMA budges and I don't know if anything could make them happy I think they're just I think they I think yeah I think they want to block it too but I think like it I think there will come a point where the government's like you've got to reverse this but they're again it's political right so the message has to be the message will have to be that the CIA the government hasn't strong armed the CMA so the CMA needs to get a win the government needs to get a win so they don't look like complete morons so they need to get a win and and basically they need to they need to get the deal through without making any everyone look like a complete that's that's the probably the current Turn Golf the same app um now will they achieve this goal it remains very very heavily to be seen But I personally think that's probably the way it's going to go they'll look they'll look for an out they'll look for a way that the CMA can look like they gotta win they'll look for a way that it can look like the government didn't meddle you know there's there's something coming up soon where there's a formality process whether the CMA formalizes their their decision and then Microsoft and Activision are allowed to give like one more sort of statement of of can you know you know against their decision or whatever you know there's a very slim chance they might use that as the out you know very slim chance maybe they will maybe they won't but um it's just a load of hilarity right now it's just it just can't it can't happen like this it's just it just can't you know but we'll see yeah um it's become a massive problem for the UK and then and then uh CEO of take two kind of came out and support uh yeah multiple different ways he he said what's good for Microsoft is good for the industry and he has no problems with you know the ABK getting getting bought by Microsoft he thinks it's good for the industry which a bunch of Industry play I know I always find it funny where you have this independent panel the CMA who dude who's not in the video game industry telling people in the video game industry what's good for them even though they're telling those people that this is good for us but the the those independent people are saying no it's actually bad for you like we're protecting consumers and future and current and future competitors in the cloud gaming Market but but the imaginary people yeah but but the current ones that are in the market are like we actually want this deal because it's going to help because Call of Duty is going to bring people to playing it and they're giving us a 10-year deal we actually want this to go through because it's going to help our business and the CMA is no no no no no no no no no no no no no no for whatever reason it's it's like it's like they want it to block from the beginning and they're just like they knew they couldn't block the the console thing because of their math and they and it was like oh we can't do this because the math is wrong and so we're going to block on cloud even though Microsoft has these all these remedies but they're not good enough it to me it's like it this all just screams like big Tech bad and they want to take a stance and show that they have teeth and it's like everywhere else in the world they're going to approve it and Microsoft will win their court case of the FTC and I think Microsoft will not allow one single regulator to stop them so if like all the other Regulators approve which it seems likely and they beat the FTC in U.S court and it's literally the UK standing in their way they'll find somehow some way to close the deal yeah I don't know what way it'll be but they'll close it um yeah I mean that's that's my prediction now like the deal the deal will go through but it messes her yeah somehow so I don't I I don't know I that's just my feeling like I you know I always I think I said before it was like I'm expecting the deal to get blocked because then when it when it does I wouldn't be disappointed and if it goes through be like oh cool it's done and we can move on when I'm really and that kind of what happened so when it did get blocked I was like ah see I told you so you should have been right but now my my concern about this whole thing is how much is this going to distract Xbox again we literally had them distracted for a year and a half and this potentially could go on for another year um we need Xbox leadership like we need them focused on the current now right where it's like I think the platform suffered from their lack of uh their lack of touch on the Xbox platform and everything this past year and a half because they were focused on this big fish and I I get it like it is a big prize uh but now that it may take until January 2025 or sometime in 2024 and there's also the chance that it may not happen because there is that possibility it's like you go after it if you need to but make sure that you are pursuing the also other Studios that potentially are out there like you can't afford to get certain Affinity to get snatched up or some of these other Studios or whatever like you you need to still have your eyes on on the ball what's going on here and I just worry that with this going on for as long as it is that we're going to be another but maybe it won't because maybe all the information is submitted everywhere and like it's just the cloud stuff I I don't know but like My worry is that uh they get too focused on that stuff again and the platform and all that stuff suffers in the meantime waiting for the deal to to go through you know that's that's my ultimate concern yeah I mean I wrote not a whole editorial about that like this this idea that they're they're being too distracted by it and you know there's things that might slip through the cracks if they aren't careful that kind of stuff but I want to believe that Microsoft's is on the ball and I guess we just have to wait and see bro yeah we have super chat here from vinster X11 thoughts on Xbox bringing back Viva Pinata I mean I wouldn't be against it I mean you probably would have to find somebody else to do it I don't think rare is interested in doing Viva Pinata they're emotional they're doing sea of Thieves in everwild so you'd have to find somebody else and maybe you know Xbox should have found somebody else by now like that's the other thing like you talk about Killer Instinct somebody mentioned Killer Instinct earlier like there should have been a Killer Instinct in development if they're not that's very disappointing like I understand like you know devs are a lot of fighting devs are are tied up with stuff but like come on like you could have been able to you should have been able to find one just like even banjo for all my banjo Bros right but how do you have a banjo go to to the switch as a character in Super Smash Brothers ultimate and not sort of also at least grow from that in a way of having a banjo game at some point to go along with all that like that's years ago it's like how do you not have a banjo remake in development by somebody you know what I mean Fallout full out bro that too at this point like there's this question marks where I'm just like you should be doing more you have more of these things that you can do it's like I I personally don't I don't care about banjo but like a lot of the fans of of on the platform would love a banjo thing like why hasn't it been done yet like same thing with Killer Instinct look at look at all the fighting games like this is like the year of the fighter you have uh Street Fighter 6 coming really soon people are stoked about it you have Mortal Kombat one trailer is incredible trending all like trending all day on Twitter trending number one on YouTube right it's gonna be a massive game coming out in September uh you gotta attack an eight like you have this like fighting game like now I wouldn't say you know like Resurgence but Dude where's Killer Instinct why isn't there why isn't why isn't there a new Killer Instinct in development I mean I know special Nick says there is and maybe there is but what the hell like I don't know like you have all this money use some of it to to to grab some games based off the IP like Jess says you really going to let fall fall out like you're sitting on Fallout and is it possible we won't see anything until 2030. I mean I know they have Fallout 4 like 4K 60 uh version coming soon probably to tie it into the TV show and stuff but there should be a new Fallout game I mean fall is too big of a franchise to sit on that long assuming even it comes out in 2030 that's what 15 years in between games it's way too long there's this like you're not wrong bro yeah I mean you let the first party do what the first party wants you let Bethesda do what they want but it's like some of these things it's like the published the the publishing team needs to go out there and I think make more deals not necessarily to get like third-party exclusives I know some people talk about that although it would be nice to like have the as branding but to to make exclusive games based off of the bigger IPS that Xbox has that they're just sitting on and they're just not doing it for whatever different reasons I don't know um yep biggity says uh Jazz what game would you play over Warcraft and top five games ever you and Rand well top five games ever would probably have to be a uh a topic show for um like patreon Xbox two ultimate because I just can't think top five games ever right off the top of my head right now yeah I actually did I actually did top 10 games ever for uh GQ oh that's right you did yeah yeah it is uh so like a few damn dude it was like a year ago almost well it's about it's about nine months ago or something like that GQ reached out to me and said we're putting together a top I think top 100 games of all time and um basically we're asking content creators journalists game devs to list their top 10 games and then we'll sort of tally up what everyone says and then we'll use that to create the top 100 games of all time lists you know not the the best methodology I've ever seen but I was like yeah I'll do that um and I think like I actually wrote my top 10 games down well the warcraft was my top 10 my number one what would you play over it would you play any game over World of Warcraft probably not huh no probably not well so what was your list um I can't remember exactly off top of my head but it was like Drive Dragon Age was there prey was there um World of Warcraft was there I think Monsanto world was there as well um and I think it was OverWatch there maybe yeah a lot of Blizzard stuff oh I'm surprised because you're not a blizzard fanboy uh radamus Cisco says that do you guys saw that the Member of Parliament talking about the possibility of the FTC influencing them he even responded to the CMA reps at one point quote that's assuming the decision was correct uh yeah yeah I think that was part of the Parliamentary Committee hearing yeah um angry hippie says the UK doesn't want to regulate because they need the tax money for the coronation quitch whatever that is uh the carnation well the thing is the Royals play for themselves I always I always hear this like oh my God they cost so much money but they're kind of bringing so much money by taxes that it doesn't matter so uh spinner says did you see the Xbox showcase fake list scalebound Shadow drop baby no I haven't seen any I saw the PlayStation fake list I have not seen an Xbox showcase fake list where is this I've seen a bunch where's this Xbox showcase fake list at bro I don't know they're all of Twitter someone someone DM me this this fake Xbox showcase list because I like to see them just to take a look at it and I haven't seen one yet uh achievement says there's loads are there oh I haven't seen any of them usually we just we got a little bit of break a couple of breaking news stories during the show okay do you want to do you want to read the soup yeah achievement says they close with banjo I'm calling it well okay fair enough closing closing with banjo so what's the breaking news what's the breaking news um well first of all uh clippy B said he's trying to get the rights back to law Breakers to revive it okay um he said he's he's got a friend who runs a studio who's gonna pick it up so that's interesting interesting second of all uh three four three just announced infection is returning on June 20th to Halo yes last year it's that it's a zombie mode essentially eh how does that work zombies so like one person starts off as a zombie and they have like an energy sword and like usually they run really fast it can jump really high and everybody else in the games gotta like hide and oh you know there's not when the zombie kills somebody with the sword that other person becomes a zombie rinse and repeat okay so whoever's left last is the winner yeah essentially yeah bro I know so a whole bunch of people DM me uh fuzzy Belvedere Kuro and Idol sloth the list and holy cow this is it's it's it's angled it's taken off a screenshot of a of someone's monitor right and it has like confidentials like across the entire middle diagonally so you know it's legit because it says confidential oh uh let's let's hear it then all right let's hear this super we got we got a vowed and it says Obsidian Entertainment exclusive we have Starfield Bethesda game studios exclusive uh even though Starfield has its own direct afterwards but whatever we have Fable from playground games exclusive State of Decay 3 Undead Labs exclusive damn we're getting the elusive five right away huh Hollow Knight silk song from t team team Cherry timed exclusive well you already know that's wrong right there it's already announced for all these other platforms it's coming to Game Pass though bro why didn't I even try why'd you even try with this like at least try to be realistic like overdose from Kojima exclusive ever wild from rare exclusive oh man we're Quake from its software exclusive hellblade 2 Ninja Theory exclusive scale bound from Platinum Games exclusive Shadow drop so it'll be dropping through the show scalpan cracks me up man it's like the game that won't die I know right people always bring it up like what is it chat cha I need people in chat to explain to me what is it about scalbone that keeps keeps it in public Consciousness is it is it just the meme is it just for the laws or do people actually want to see this thing oh he actually spelled silk song Ron he spelled it slick song maybe it's not spelled wrong maybe maybe it's silk song that's multi-platform um yeah yeah um what else we got here uh Contraband from Avalanche exclusive Killer Instinct from rare and Bandai Namco exclusive hey that's kind of what I remember when you sort of said that could be in development at Bando all those years ago Wolfenstein 3 from Bethesda softworks exclusive I don't know why that wouldn't say uh machine games but whatever Forza Motorsport playground games excuse me excuse me I know all right as far as the Motorsport from from playground games exclusive and then you have midnight TBA exclusive they don't even have they didn't even put a developer in here then Fallout New Vegas 2 from obsidian exclusive then Halo Tatanka in quotes from certain Affinity exclusive Shadow drop uh so so they don't even know the name of the tanker uh yeah it's just just the Tonka then Halo 3 anniversary from 343 exclusive and then cyberpunk 2077 DLC which already has a name but the name's not here from CD projekt Red and it says three month timed exclusive [Laughter] uh this is a great list yeah interesting thanks for the laugh guys I appreciate it because God did anybody does any did anybody think like this this list was real I mean seriously like I don't know man I kind of like this list I mean it's it's it's funny it's funny maybe maybe somebody make a YouTube video going over the list ha Hollow Knight Slick song I I wanna I wanna read read some of these covets about skybound I thought Scott Eric Eric galash says I thought Sky one looked great but I'm not holding my breath or coming back I was a Michael matreski says I wasn't interested in Scout bound where I was and I was okay with the big castle maybe it's just the meme Pasha play says the mental scars from scalban cancellation have never healed well that's dramatic uh mutai forever says scab I'm sort of reasons I was excited about the Xbox generation this it's interesting I might like I might like I might put a thread on Twitter and write an article about it because I think it's I think it's quite funny I know I know that like Microsoft finds it kind of annoying oh I'm sure I know Phil finds it is annoying yeah I'm gonna write it anyway I've heard quite I bet I've actually had quite a few conversations with Phil about scale Bond over the years oh really yeah yeah I think it's funny because nobody really knew what it was like but everyone kind of was like the idea of it maybe I don't know I like Platinum Games really makes some real real bangers you know they are capable of greatness you know when they're when they're really you know firing on all cylinders but they're also capable of absolute spectacularly bad stuff so you know there was never a guarantee that game is going to be any good and the fact that they canceled it is kind of a hint right yeah like this is Microsoft who didn't even cancel reforms about the scalp yeah they do cancel scalebound and Fable Legends but red flag came out how bad was I actually played Fable Legends it wasn't bad at all probably not no I don't think a lot the only like 4v1 game that ever survived was dead by daylight which I believe is uh super massive games is making like a single player game based on that Universe uh I think the icon I know people who are obsessed with that game I've tried multiple times together that's like these I can't get into that's like the only 4v1 game that survived that remember when 4v1 was this thing the like beginning of the Xbox one gen Fable Legends and evolve and all these other games and yeah I think I think it was it was it was left for dead because like Left 4 Dead had this Left 4 Dead at the versus mode Riot where you could like players that some sometimes just spawned yeah but it wasn't 4v1 it was like yeah it wasn't for V1 but when you were the tank it was kind of that experience you are like the the scary nasty dude trying to screw over the whole group you know um and I think they were evolved definitely was like yeah we could take the tank experience from Left 4 Dead and make a whole game out of it and they're like well actually no you couldn't and then like I think a lot of devs were just like this just doesn't work but dead by daylight like I don't it's it's crazy how popular game is I've tried to get into it a few times but it just frustrates the hell out of me or I'm playing as like I'm playing I've tried I got see this is this is proof that crossovers work I got dead by daylight because of the Silent Hill crossover I wanted to play as pyramid head like yeah I've always wanted to play his Pyramid Head that's awesome I will play his Pyramid Head and like yeah I I get that I'm a complete Noob and the people that play it like probably you know Hardcore Dead by daylight people but they do like strafing around me and I just felt like a I literally can't grab this guy like I move too slow I just got too frustrated and then uninstalled it and never played it again yeah skill issue maybe but we have a we have a super chat here from special Nick of Xbox era special Nick he's upset he's really upset with you oh great he says jasmate don't even try and claim the gears collection when it comes not cool what do you mean I never said it was coming I think it's because Idol idol sloth put out a tweet that says you're backtracking on the gears collection no I'm really not I have no idea if that thing's real I just think if if it was real it makes sense you know yeah but Nick is trying to say Nick is like you can't if it does come out you can't say see I told you so I you know because well I'm just saying it didn't exist when he said it exists man I'm just saying yeah all right not cool so not cool Luke says uh Jazz two years ago rumors about 10 cent buying take two is it still on the table uh approving approving Fields with no concessions feels like uh you owe me one to Microsoft what was the question basically is take two still for sale with 10 cent like because there was those you know I mean stuff there's been room is about type 2 looking for a buyer for a really long time and I think a lot of these Publishers are kind of like you know where do we go from here you know the we we've we sort of you know gotten as many gamers as we can like how can we possibly grow at this point you know I think there's there is that a lot of Publishers are sort of faced with that question and when you are a publicly traded company and it's kind of like well uh of of you know efforts to bring a return for investors either they sort of you know uh we try and get a better operating margins and increase dividends or we'd look for a buyer you know and who will pay above the share price like Microsoft is paying orders of magnitude above the share price for Activision Blizzard which is you know it makes it a really great deal for shareholders which is why 97 of them voted in favor of it right so like if I'm if I'm take two interactive and it's just like yeah I like Gears of War Gears of War Grand Theft Auto 6 which we've got a little bit of news about this week potentially um that game can be as amazing as hell but the console Market ain't getting any bigger you know you've got more people than never playing on switch and more people playing on mobile so how big realistically can you make that game you know it's it's going to be huge but like investors they're huge ain't enough for investors they want to see like crazy operating margins so they can have like amazing dividends and stuff like that you get you get companies that are like the biggest company in there in their field and they still don't have a particularly great share price because they're the the business they operate in it's just the operating margin is just aren't that great you know for whatever reason yeah but the you know it could go either way but it's like who who could buy take two there aren't many companies big enough to buy take two yeah but I mean Strauss elnick is he's backing up axbox though uh saying it's good for the industry that maybe he's angling for an acquisition the club gaming isn't uh isn't a new distributation model it's like just part of the existing one or whatever he said but he also said midgen upgrades are likely Jazz um as well he he was asked about this during their financial reports because it sort of came like you know that everybody does their quarterly reports and a couple things that came out from this was that take two things mid-gen console Refreshers are likely and we know from Tom Henderson the PS5 Pro is a thing that is supposed to come uh next year end of next year uh when asked about it he said quote we probably will and they did not affect the business very much talking about um like you know the Xbox One X and the PS4 Pro I think he's he asked he was asked if we can expect to see updated versions of the PS5 and Xbox series X and S and whether Hardware refreshes in the last gen had much of an impact on the company's business and he said we probably will and they did not affect the business very much um now it's interesting because remember when we talked about this before when Tom had leaked the PS5 Pro and we had a discussion on the show about do we want to see midgen refreshes and we ran a poll and the poll was very much saying no I don't want a mid-gen refresh that the Gen just started and all this stuff but since then we've seen a lot of games kind of release in a poor state uh you know redfall not launching a 30 not launching a 60 FPS Star Wars just being very bad in performance mode uh and a couple other games just kind of you know plague's tale taking seven months to get a 60 FPS Gotham Knight still a 30. and these are kind of like next gen only games or current gen only games and we've seen Richard Ledbetter from digital Foundry talk about like we might see The Return of 30 frames because developers might optimize more for visual uh quality rather than performance and even though I said give me give me a give me a new Xbox next year because I play on the system every day I'll take I'll take a better system like 100 I wonder if a lot of people are when these systems come out in a year or two if their mind shift will be mine they're the way they think their their minds will be different about the idea of needing um mid-gen upgrades so the games run better uh you know look better maybe Ray tracing performs better on there right I think I think that that's possibility that might be a thing where it's like you're starting to get to some of these games and it's like man like Star Wars for example I don't know how they're I know they say they keep on patching it and they say performance improves but like I don't know how they'll ever improve Star Wars uh performance mode and and that that even runs at like 892 like P on Sirius X where it's like maybe we do need these mid-gen consoles or something I think the pro the problem is that like because because of the because of AI and because of server technology and some of this stuff there's like GP technology in the chip space is progressing faster than it has historically so you get PC you get PCS that are just monstrously more powerful than the average and you get developers who want to make their games look as bet as good as possible and you get like all the bottlenecks you know like mechanical hard drives for example or one of the big bottlenecks right now is the fact that a lot of a lot of people with gaming PCs they they you know they they focus on they focus on the graphics card and the CPU and then they forget they've got they've still got a mecha they're running their games off a mechanical hard drive and then they wonder why like they get rubber banding and texture streaming is really bad and stuff like that um you know uh there's this whole because of their the rise of PC gaming and because of how much how much of an emphasis piece you know things of fallen on PC gaming in recent years is kind of getting to the point now where it's like um the consoles on being upgraded fast enough you know to keep in line with the Pacer technology you know you get Samsung I said this before you get Samsung and Apple releasing the thousand dollar phone every year and people are totally cool with it but you talk about doing that with the console people freak out and they don't get it especially as someone who games a lot you know at least if they continue to support the passenger and consoles with 30fps versions or whatever I don't see it like it should be a problem but I don't know I think the the P A lot of the people here who said like we shouldn't have midgen consoles you know um do a different poll you know if PlayStation does a mid-gen console an XBox doesn't I guarantee you will be pissed off about that yeah that is true yeah so 100 so if PlayStation's doing it Xbox has to do it and if Xbox is doing it then PlayStation has to do it and like both of them are probably sitting there thinking we can make a stack of money with this so yeah I'm I'm in five you know I'm in fiber of it I think most core Gamers I think people people with the money yeah yeah I don't know I mean I I mean I play that's the system I plan yeah give me the better system you know um what if I think what Microsoft and well Microsoft and Sony probably hate each other these days but I think what would be a perfect a perfect universe would be if Microsoft and Sony had better trading options so like I upgrade my phone maybe once every two or three years because Samsung's trading program is incredible I traded in my Galaxy fold 2. for uh s23 Ultra and that gave me 800 off the price you know if Microsoft had a trading program where they were like we'll take your Xbox series X and you know we'll give you 50 of the cost towards a mid-gen upgrade I think that that is the burden a lot and it would allow them to iterate more quickly you know and you know it's not like Microsoft can't repurpose that Hardware either they could take those Xbox series X chips slap them in a server and use the use the bandwidth for Azure or something you know so I think that would be the ideal scenario I think smartphones have like these great trading programs I know Apple does as well they do that apple plus or whatever it's called I don't know but yeah I don't know um but also it sounds like potentially Grand Theft Auto 6 might come out next fiscal year which for them is April 2024 to March 2025 because they said um looking at fiscal 2025 it is a highly anticipated year for our company for the last several years we have been preparing our business to release an incredibly robust pipeline of projects that we believe will take our company even greater levels of success and fiscal 2025 we expect to enter this new era by launching several groundbreaking titles that we believe will set the new standards in our industry and enable us to achieve over 8 billion in net bookings and over a billion in the dusted operating cash flow I mean that's got to be Grand Theft Auto 6 right yes it has to be yeah it absolutely has to be and I I do see a lot of PlayStation fans thinking that place eight Grand Theft Auto 6 will be at the PlayStation show and that is going to be a timed exclusive for PlayStation what do you think I mean I don't know I mean I think that's the amount of money it would take to get any storm any form of Grand Theft Auto exclusivity would probably not be worth it but I mean what would what would take to ask for for just say six months of exclusivity for Grand Theft Auto a billion dollars um yeah I mean more it could be worth it to PlayStation I mean maybe wouldn't that be something it'd be it'll be it'll be a devastating mind share blow for Xbox yeah dude you better not will that into existence do you know is this true is this something that you know of is this one of the things that the PlayStation showcase Grand Theft Auto 6 I don't know I don't know a damn thing about Rockstar you know I don't know anything they're pretty good at keeping lid on things generally apart from when they their service get hacked and the whole build leaks but yeah I don't know anything about that game yeah uh senju says I think the priority should be making the next console easier to develop for not just increase power we've already seen how that turned out fair enough well it's there's no issue with developing for the console the issue is like the PC market you can't you can't like that can make the console as easy to develop for as you want but the issue is like the fact that the PlayStation architecture is going to be different a PC architecture is going to be different as well I think like the fact that um the PlayStation is like you know re-fast SSD kind of talk Microsoft by surprise and now like a lot of a lot of the techniques develop third-party developers are using probably rely on having the you know the maximum speed M2 mvme drive you know which is why I think a lot of these games have issues on PC because not everyone has this kind of drive and I think like some some games run into real issues when they're running off a slower SSD like um you know I was running uh I was running Diablo 4 and OverWatch 2 off an SD card and this is this is an extreme example by the way it's an extreme example obviously I'm not saying the Xbox is slow as an SD card but I was running I was running these games off an SD card and it just gave me loads of rubber Band-Aid because the the texture streaming of the world just couldn't keep up with the speed that the SD card had so I had to like literally give in and wipe Steam OS completely off my steam deck and use the internal SSD which is way faster than the SD card you know so it so these games will run like the CPU is good enough to run OverWatch and the GPU is good enough to run it um but the the SSD became the bottleneck then so the issue with Hardware is always that there's just so much of it out there so many different types I think developers should just start saying look our game requires mvme SSD you can't run this off a mechanical hard drive let that die please they're not even expensive but I suppose if you don't have a motherboard for it it could be expensive but I don't know uh Joaquin brush since hey Jen says the Persona rumors turn out to be true then Sega really is Xbox only Xbox is only Japanese friend makes you wonder about that super game project oh the Sonic oh yeah sega's so-called super game yeah the super powered powered by Azure yeah and targeting what is that 2026 game release or something what if that right is a Sonic MMO where you can sort of make your own furry character it's like the ultimate so instead of a super game it's a super fail dude you have no idea how big that game would be it wouldn't be big nobody would care dude don't underestimate the furry community I know some of you in here right now yeah probably um I bet cult secretly a furry you think so yeah I just I just get that vibe from Carl that is a furry well if you guys are enjoying the show make sure you hit the like button and subscribe to the channel if you haven't already um let's transition to patreon questions you guys shall we yeah yeah let's do it patreon questions so this is uh you know one of the tiers you get is to ask questions we'll read them off at the end of every show so you can always easily find your questions uh because we we will answer them patreon dot com slash xb2 let me just load it up and I'll probably there'll probably be like 25 25 questions here hopefully got some we got some bangers Let's see we have um 24 looks like at least 24 comments so all right let's let's begin we have uh Silas says Mary Friday I love to know what a week in the life of the Xbox 2 podcast is for example who how do you handle business sponsors who manages a patreon do you have weekly visiting sessions where you talk about long-term goals Rand what is the process like to get your interview questions or for jazz approval since jazz is a big time editor do you have to deal with someone on his team for approval the day of the podcast what is show prep like do you share a show sheet vocal exercises to prepare for for our podcast I love the content you provide I like to get a peek behind the curtain learn how the sausage is made all right we'll go through this one by one how do you handle business sponsors usually do one by one well really quickly we do nothing well here's the thing how do you handle business and sponsors uh lately let you late in the past Jazz did lately it's all been on me uh yeah I like it's easy it's it's complicated because like I've got full-time employment so like because of the patreon and stuff I have to like submit a separate tax return for that money on top of the money that I earn that I automatically pay money to the government not this year because patreon's under my name now yeah but I still I still have to submit a tax return for last year for last year but we didn't we only had it for a few months last year yeah but you have to submit a tax return anyway and I still have to submit a tax return for last year so but you it's it's potentially simpler for Iran to sort that stuff out because he has to submit a tax return anyway my tax return is more complicated because I have to you have to do two yeah normally just handled the manscape stuff and I handle some of the other ones who manages the patreon jazz jazz made the patreon without even talking to me he has access to the patreon he runs the patreon so that's him yeah one of the issues too with patreon I just want to let people know is that we we can only have one login to the patreon so like all the tweet all the posts and stuff made on patreon is generally me and that's purely because of patreon won't let two people log in unless you're a huge patreon if you're a massive page or something yeah yeah yeah if you're a huge patreon there's patreon for teams which means we could both log in but right now only I can log in because we're just a small business um do you have weekly visiting sessions where you talk about long-term goals never I don't think we've ever had something like that no no uh Rand what is the process like to get interview questions for jazz approved um can be tricky sometimes uh he has he has somebody that I need to go through uh to see if it's okay uh first because he's such a big wig now uh the day of the podcast okay so this is what it's like right uh I'll usually set up the show an hour beforehand that's why you see the Tweet like hey join us in an hour because that's when I set it up and then about uh 30 minutes after that so like 1 30 my time I kind of I have like things bookmark on my Twitter that I see and I'm like okay I want to talk about this I want to talk about this and I have a we have a secret section in the Xbox 2 Discord uh that where I put like notes be like okay ABK like kind of just small notes to keep my mind like okay we'll be talking about uh and I usually so I'll do that at like 1 30 so like 45 minutes before the show starts and then I'll hop into the Discord at like 1 45 and then normally in the past Jazz would drop in at like 210 like five minutes before the show would start and he would have audio problems but lately Jazz has been good about joining right when I join about like 145 and if we have his audio issues we work it out and then we'll talk about some stuff usually the leaks that jazz has heard or some of the things we get like Insider you know his Insider information so when jez says like he knows the four games that are Xbox has I also know those two uh because Jazz just shares information like that you know what I mean um sometimes sometimes but not all the time but sometimes uh and we'll do some talk about some stuff and then we'll start we'll we'll you know stream stream the YouTube start the show get the music rolling and then begin and then after that it is usually we'll say we'll talk about something after the show jazz is usually pretty tired and he goes to bed and then I download the show and send it to Jazz to put it up on audio for the next day it's essentially how it works um but yeah very little organization I was very impressed when I visited sessions though to think about goals um we had no goals when we started this it was just like personal goals so this this is why I just made the patreon without Ron's permission because I knew like it wasn't permission it was like you didn't even ask me for input you just did it I was just like yeah because I was like well if we talk about it you'll you'll overthink everything and nothing to get done so it's just like yeah screw it I'll just do it and then I'll deal with round afterwards yeah that's part of the reasons why I love doing the show because it's not like a job and it's never like oh we have goals for it I mean sure we want more people to listen to it but it's honestly just a conversation between two friends that you guys can all listen to because then yeah you know I often get these like emails like improve the SEO of your podcast and stuff like I'm just like I can't be bothered with any of that like oh see what happens clip some stuff and put them on Tick Tock or YouTube shorts and I'm like nah like no no I can't be bothered like whatever it's just gonna it's gonna be fun it's a hobby you know and I think like when things get too corporate and too silly and and you take it too seriously I think something gets lost you know there's something about there's something about the rawness of everything we do that makes it more fun and not treating it like a job and I really need it to not feel like a job so I can feel like I actually have something beyond my job in my life oh yeah I love doing the show man yeah it's fun me too uh oh my God Turtle 73 says Hey guys hope you had a great week keep those Rose Tina glasses on if you want I'm on the phone to Big Philly Spencer right now and he's stressing because he forgot to play in the Xbox showcase he needs to give the CGI team two to four IPS four to make trailers for I guess the games will be greenlit too and you know that team that would be perfect to make a new one yeah they're making it so don't worry about the detail what IPS would you like to see Xbox bring back no matter who owns them I said The Saboteur and death spank hope you had both had a great weekend oh geez okay well no matter who owns them yeah like Microsoft Microsoft's got a deal bought an IP I I I I think we kind of have to like cut that part out because we could be here all day thinking about like oh no matter who owns them I think it's got to be like IPS that Xbox are in control of that they could do you know what I mean because it could be like um I don't know like Starcraft 3 because who knows if there's a Starcraft in development let's have Xbox do that you know what I mean uh that's literally what I was thinking of stuff right uh or some other huge franchises that have kind of Gone by the wayside like you know we know Splinter cell's a thing but I would have said Splinter Cell so I had to keep it like structured to just things Xbox could make to make it more realistic so what would I uh green light well like if I'm part of the business see there's there's like Rand and what Rand wants but if I'm Big Philly Spence and I need to think about what's good for the brand I'd probably be like all right we got a banjo game coming we have we have a Killer Instinct game coming um we have we're doing one versus one hundred bringing that back in in some form or format and yeah those would be the three that I would probably make sure because I you know what do you think jazz oh wait hold on this also includes Bethesda uh a Fallout a Fallout uh CGI thing for some Fallout game yeah yeah I'd have hex and Mike I'd have ID software make a new hexing game I think that if I think that's going to happen eventually anyway personally um but I'll have them making a new Hicks and game I'd have uh arcanes a team make oh a new de SX you'd have uh Arcane Austin make their sex uh nope no they don't they don't own this their sex you mean you'd want them to make Shadowrun oh are we not do oh yeah you said we're not doing because we'd be I mean I guess you you know you so you be you dancing I was thinking I was picking accent because he's Activision right right yeah yeah okay fair enough um I obviously pick Starcraft 3 but I'd also like to see I would really I'm curious man what would what would it look like if CD project Red made a Warcraft action RPG interesting where you play as like I don't know uh maybe maybe it's set during Warcraft 3 maybe you play as a paladin or something during the you know the the whole zombie stuff going down with the with the Lich King I think that would be pretty cool like a Side Story something that people didn't hear there's a load of books that deal with like con stuff that was happening around the events of Warcraft 3 but not actually in the game so you can make a whole ass game about that I'd love to see a photo realistic Warcraft that'd be awesome thinking you know since you said like anybody I'd be like well you know what let's uh I I I'd uh get an exclusive uh Kill Zone we're bringing back Hill Zone despite PlayStation owning it because you said anybody and kill someone said right now you know uh just just to have it so uh Raj he says on the Xbox 2 ultimate Xbox showcase Fantasy Draft neither one of you mentioned about is being there as a likely 2024 game it's got to be shown next month don't you think well sure but like the rules for that fantasy draft were six first party or platform announcements and four third-party things so 10 games out of potential 30. and a vowed I came up with five games and one platform announcement and just came up with six that's not to say that we I think we both think about will be there because we both think it's a 20-24 game don't read too much into the fact that we didn't have it in the fantasy draft yeah the fantasy draft was literally just a fantasy well it wasn't a fantasy I tried keeping mine realistic as possible which is you know the whole point but also yeah there's a little bit of fantasy to it a little bit but um but yeah no we both we both think it's there uh Jay Foley says happy Friday do you guys believe Xbox could acquire exclusive rights to a big game title from EA like Mass Effect Dead Space Star Wars or even Dragon Age to help in their fight against PlayStation exclusives I know back in the day Mass Effect was supposed to be an XBox exclusive well it was because Xbox funded that game it wasn't until EA bought EA bought uh BioWare and what was the other Studio that there it was BioWare and uh the team that did mercenaries oh pandemic yeah pandemic name yeah yeah and EA got the Mass Effect IP cause uh I think Xbox let me like buyer wear on the IP in exchange for doing it so yeah it was always supposed to be an exclusive but it like EA came in and snatched it up but no I mean EA doesn't really do exclusives at best you'd have marketing deals I think does Xbox have the marketing deal for Star Wars maybe I think in the the commercial with um Mark Hamill I think he was using an Xbox controller because I believe PlayStation cropped that out of their video if they did have marketing they it wasn't really good for it or really good so at most you'd have some sort of marketing deal for these games um yeah no I don't I don't see EA do EA doing exclusives and I don't I you you would agree with that right yeah I agree I I I think a lot of people are hungry for Microsoft to do third party exclusive just because Sony's been doing so many but I still don't know if that's on the docket for Microsoft's philosophically but I really think they should reconsider a person but we'll see um we have Nate Miller says happy Friday what games do you play the most regularly what's your rotation typically mine is fortnite OverWatch 2 MLB the Show in a single player experience I find this the great way to balance playing casual or service based games with keeping up sort of with new game releases uh well mine is just basically whatever game I'm currently playing I play one game at a time most of most of the time I haven't there isn't a multiplayer game I'm cycling right there used to be hey I'm playing Pub G or I'm playing Call of Duty war zone but that hasn't happened in a while so it's basically I'm playing Star Wars at a Survivor right now and that's all I'm playing until I'm done and then I'll play whatever's next like last case the Benedict fox or planet of Lana right those are two games I want to play soon and then when those done I'll play another one I'm I play one game at a time and if there's a multiplayer game you can maybe add that in but Jazz you're you're different you're playing all over the place yeah I just play random games whatever takes me fancy like I played I played um uh call of the Lamb like religiously for a couple of days and then just stopped again so like I just played stuff completely randomly but right now I'm sort of I'm led by the stuff that I need to review so right now I'm reviewing a certain massive game that's coming out in the near future interesting I wonder um I wonder what game look that could be yeah I wonder what game that could be indeed so that's sort of taken up all of my time but when I'm when I'm not reviewing games I've been re reviewing games a lot more recently because I've had some really great feedback from people and some people were like how come you didn't review any games recently I was just kind of like wow people actually like my reviews maybe I should you know actually write some reviews maybe strike the fear and the guard of these Publishers who are like oh we can ignore Jazz he doesn't review games anymore yeah I guess I guess so um but yeah it's sort of where we're at with some of that stuff um in any case I but when I'm not reviewing any games I just play I just sort of rotate between over I'm basically just play OverWatch and then a single player game I always try and get in my dailies in OverWatch because I want the stuff from the battle pass and um I just like playing OverWatch because it's kind of mindless to me now you know it's a great way to switch my brain off and then I play Warcraft World of Warcraft when the new Season's up because I mean I'm in a super casual Guild that just does The Raid and then once they've killed the last boss they just stop until the next season and that really suits me with my lifestyle so I'm I usually play through the the warcraft season and then stop and uh then I just play random single player games I'm trying to get through Persona right now as you all know and yeah that's the way it goes baby uh Parker Griffith says it's always a great week knowing we get to hear you guys if you were to send each other to do Naked and Afraid and in a video game world where would you send them that's a great question Naked and Afraid in a video game World hmm well hide in the video game world I wouldn't want I wouldn't want ran to get hurt but if we but let's say for example there's a full there's a full production team there you're not actually gonna get hurt if like there's a crocodile or something this is probably a guy with a gun around the corner ready to save you or extract you like no no one actually really gets hurt in that show so what would make a great TV show I would put Rand in hmm I'll put Rand in the world of hmm I put random World of Warcraft no actually tell a lie I put random in Pokemon world oh see I wasn't I wasn't gonna put you in Pokemon like so I want just to be happy I don't want him to so I put him in the gunch and impact world with all the waifus around oh wow that's brilliant yeah okay fair enough that's very nice for you yeah well I I want Rand to be happy then I'll put Rand in Bobby's Horse Adventure so thank you thank you you got the the Barbies man the hot Barbies yeah Lazar wolf says hey guys I'm sure you already talked about the canceled OverWatch 2 PvE we didn't my friends oh yeah we forgot yeah my friends and I seem to be the only ones not upset and still enjoying the game anyway my question is for jazz who are your Mains in OverWatch I mean May pharah and Bastion I um I also made Bastion so I often play Bastion when I want to play DPS and I just don't want to when I actually want to win I usually pick Bastion when I'm having fun sometimes I'll pick junkrat or um oh what's her name now Echo I really like playing Echo especially I actually got an elite controller just for playing Echo so I could control the I can control um her altitude without letting go of the aiming and stuff because you have to hold a to fly but then you can't aim because you've got you you've got your finger on the the a button instead of on the joystick so you kind of need an elite controller to play Echo on on a console um but I also play I play all the healers um when I want a fast queue I really like the new healer can't remember his name off top of my head my memory is so bad um oh God what's his name the new healer they added I really love playing him but my main healer is probably Moira like again if I want to win I pick Moira because I know that I can smash people's faces as DPS Moira which makes everyone mad but I love it but yeah I love OverWatch and that the comment you made really resonates with me about um everyone's mad about the PVE a lot of the people who are mad about the PVE never even played OverWatch so kind of don't care what their opinion is on it um and from what I've what I'm hearing it hasn't affected monthly active users anyway so well it is it is also like the reason for OverWatch too right because we're supposed to have that stuff and now it's canceled and it's kind of like oh so there was no reason to do an OverWatch too you could have just done updates and everything right yeah it's dumb it's dumb as hell it's dumb as hell that they did this and it just smells of Activision it's it's Destiny 2 all over again Destiny 2 shouldn't exist either you know um what is the point of Destiny 2 is literally exactly the same as Destiny one they didn't do it they didn't do change anything it was even full of the same locations and stuff like that so um that's Activision all over you know but uh from what I've heard it's probably a good thing it was canceled put it that way um yeah I don't really have much to say about it other than like laughing like you know another live service thing that's kind of like oh we were gonna do this and it was the basis of doing OverWatch 2 but now we're not uh which is just funny I I couldn't I don't care about OverWatch so it's just yeah um I'm gonna skip this one for now and we'll come back to it because it's so long uh all right Ralph Wiggum says Hey guys hope you're doing well ran sorry about for the hard question last time I'll go easier this is for both Rand and Jazz do you dip your fries and sauce pour the sauce over the fries or pour sauce pour the sauce and Fries in a bag and shake them to eat I never even heard of the last one what pour the sauce and Fries in a bag and then shake them to and what that's the thing people do uh I I don't know maybe Ralph does it I may be I'm gonna shock you I'm gonna shock you right okay what do you do I actually don't have sauce for my friend well normally I don't have sauce with my fries I don't normally have sauce either but if I do if I do I pour the sauce over the fries so pour the ketchup over the fries and that's kind of always what I did when I was a kid I I I don't I don't dip it it's I'm a Dipper okay you're a Dipper okay I spread it okay fair enough Mythic Marty hey Ren Jazz listening to the recent shows I can hear Jazz's opinion on cloud gaming has shifted due to the steam deck and the Rog Ally I also heard absolutely absolutely correct like um I think I was I actually meant to bring this point up earlier but forgot but yeah my my um my mood on cloud gaming has completely changed since I slapped since I slapped um Windows on my steam deck because it can run all those games natively and it was it was actually like when I went on vacation recently I traveled back from vacation I think I told this story everyone on the train all the little kids they weren't playing on cloud they weren't even playing on the phones they're playing a Nintendo switch there's no signal on a train I was on a nine hour train journey from vacation it was just like man like I've got xcloud but it's useless and then I started to realize that nine times out of ten when I when I want to use xcloud I can't use it because I need I need powerful home Wi-Fi and yeah when when my girlfriend takes over the TV xcloud is great that's like the only time I get to use it you know when I'm when I'm in my room with my Xbox and it just so happens that someone's taken over the TV that's not a compelling use use case to me anymore I spent it was it was compelling before the steam deck existed and before uh especially the Asus uh Raj Ally existed and they these are the first generation PC handhelds really I mean yeah I know GPD wind's been plugging away and the iron Neo but they're like they're the Distribution on those isn't particularly great in the west but um you know these are gen 1 devices at the end of the day and I think the opportunity is absolutely massive I really want Microsoft to adopt that instead of push so hard on the cloud because I don't think the Cloud's going anywhere I really don't right so he also says I also heard the sentiment RDX I have to ask though was cloud gaming not about lowering that barrier of entry and getting the getting on devices people already have how many people are willing to Shell out 600 700 on these dedicated machines steam deck has done great so far but we don't know what the size of the market actually is it'll be interesting to see if it quickly saturates with all these new competitors arriving in the current economic climate it's also hard to see Steam deck or any others hitting switches sell through as its price was very well placed but that came with the cost of performance cloud is limited by latency but Portables are limited by cost to Performance ratio so I don't think we can write either off interesting to hear your takes even though I know Rand is no interest in cloud or steam deck hope you both are doing well I mean he is right I mean that's what cloud was supposed to be it was supposed to hey you don't need this 600 steam deck or this 700 rug Ally to play these games these console quality games because it's extreme to the device you already own the problem I also always thought was like it's not fun or intuitive to play those games on your mobile phone right you want like so yeah you have these devices like the kishis and the boat like what what's the the bone one is there in a bone one or something am I thinking of something um backbone backbone my bad I love the backbone yeah backbone right where it's like yeah but then it's like you got to carry that with you plus your phone but the phones where you like text and do all these other things I don't know it but yeah you're right I mean he's right that's what cloud was supposed to do but now you these these handheld and it's it did seem like handheld gaming was was gone and it was like oh well but now that handheld gaming seems to be making a big comeback I don't know um I'm still personally not interested in either so and I I do think it's interesting because you aren't the only one's opinion on this who shifted who was like big in the cloud gaming and thought whatever but now that you have these bigger you know handhelds coming out it's like well what's the point uh yeah I mean I always thought Cloud would be Niche sure but I was really bullish on it because I was I I like the idea of it you know and I kind of I always thought like you know this and it was useful to me you know because I didn't me and my girlfriend fight over the TV um and you know sometimes I need to play a game for review or whatever and it's like yeah well I already know the graph is good no no I can just check out the story on my phone or whatever oh well my tablet which I use it for but there's so many so many things about Cloud that frustrate the experience whether it's whether it's screen size whether it's the text size on a phone whether it's like finding a tablet that is the right size and shape for it like originally I like um what I did first I bought my steam deck and I was using Steam OS and whatever and then I followed Microsoft's guide to put xcloud on the steam deck so I was like well okay well I can get my Xbox games like that you know without having to install full windows and then I was just like well why don't I just install full windows and yeah it was it's it's not you know completely straightforward it takes about like 30 minutes to to do it once you've done it you know it's like well why was I ever using cloud in the first place you know and it's just sort of that Eureka moment that this just doesn't need to exist and yes it's a 400 device now everyone can just go out and buy a 400 device I'm like sort of in a privilege privileged position where I can sort of like I can just literally write that off for tax purposes because it is for work I did write an editorial about it and I've done multiple guides about it so I can sort of put it on my tax return or whatever but um I also think about like if I was just you know if I was still working back in the hot in the hot in the high school that I used to work in it's still kind of making me think like I probably would prefer to get a steam deck over something like the cloud because there's just so many barriers to entry there I don't know yeah we have a tuber who says uh Randon Jazz let's play Naked and Afraid oh the second Naked and Afraid One console edition a game franchise can only survive if you reskin it with a comic or anime IP which game would you save and what would the combo IP be for my example would be taking the gameplay concept of Phantom Dust and using with the dark the doctor strange franchise that's an interesting question uh I would take I would take Hilo I knew you're gonna say Halo [Laughter] and I'd make it look like tension impact we'd make an anime yeah we make an anime Halo we'd have a Cortana in fact this would be this would be the Hilo reboot right um the Halo reboot would be anime Halo it'd be a gacha game and it would uh Cortana would be an anime waifu and it would be amazing it'd be absolutely it's interesting that you say Halo because my suggestion was going to be take years of war and uh skin it like ancient impact so you could have gears wipers oh man yeah that's that's a storm that makes no sense okay I mean because hello is already halfway there because the the their enemies are so cartoony looking you know it could be even bored you could have gotchas we'd have like you know gears would totally work bro no giz is too realistic man I mean Halo is basically an anime I read it in fact there has been a Halo anime if I'm right well there's about to be a gears anime as well now this is terrible this is a terrible idea and instead of like the chainsaw it like it it uses power of love and hearts and stuff it's not like it's a magical girl anime yeah like Sailor Moon or something like that I don't know it'll be that though but thank you for that Randall jazz19 says hi Randon Jazz hope you're doing well me and my friends are always on Discord hoping for new placing games to come to out on PC now that the new show next week is upon us do you know any of you know if ghost of shimo will be announced for PC I know it's not an Xbox question so I hope it's okay it's perfectly fine you can ask whatever you want you can ask PlayStation Nintendo questions as well yeah um I don't I don't know anything about ghost Shima uh PC or whatever but I mean I would imagine they talked about they're gonna bring all their stuff to PC so I would imagine before ghost Shima 2 comes out goes to the Shima one will be ported to PC at some point yeah yeah I think I think ghost shame is probably like high on their priorities priority list to get to PC because you know that game has like really broad appeal I goes to Shima is one of the games that I'm like really like God I this is one game that makes me feel like I need a PlayStation but hey if they bring it to PC then saves me some money ma'am uh Omen I ran in jazz when this generation is over how many years do you think will take most Studios to make a game here's some helpful stats I ran to help you out the average time it took for Xbox Bethesda came to release using last release as an estimate is currently sitting at 4.38 years Bethesda software has taken the longest at eight years for Starfield playground games is the most efficient with two-year intervals well not recently in this kind of three years but I get what you're saying there used to be too most Xbox games released since 2020 have taken five to six years only exception is doom and Forza series I mean yeah I mean five and six years seems for anywhere between four and six depending on the scope and how big it is right the games take a long time these days even even smaller games even Indie Games take a while so I mean look how long silk song has taken right you mean slick Zone Slick song yeah that's just kind of the way it is uh Christopher Marlow says do you know David Jeffy enough to get him on as a two plus one guest I don't know David Jeffy at all um um I actually might be doing a show with him um he reached out to me a little while ago and we talked about doing a show and talking about Xbox I said I don't have time in the short term because we're doing we're doing three shows this month because we missed one last month so I didn't have my Tuesdays free and then it's the Xbox E3 stuff so I'm going to be super busy doing that so um but yeah I I I spoke to him and he seems like a cool dude so we'll see what happens yeah we could probably get you know after you know if Jazz does a show with them we might we might have you know Jeffy on that'd be it'd be interesting uh it's quite small but smells like a big one hey hello Randon Jazz what's your less favorite lesser-known bands bands that are significant to you but have a hard time turning even close friends onto also Rand you got to play breath of the wild you own the system you own the game to Jedi Survivor is an excellent game and I loved it but you don't need Nostalgia to enjoy the new Zelda games also mad props for consummating with Zelda uh reference to last week's question Cheerio mates we'll see we'll see about ever playing a Zelda game uh as I want to play a Zelda game I I I I've breath of the wild I own it I just never got around to it yeah I don't know I'm gonna bring my switch back with me when I come back from England this time um for no what smaller bands have a hard time turning even close friends onto I I don't know well that's that's one band that I really love that I think is really underrated although they they did enjoy some popularity in the early 2000s is um a band called the Young knives I bet I'd be surprised if anyone here knows them they were big in the early 2000s they're still putting out music I think they're awesome they're very weird alternative British sort of I don't I don't even know what the genre is it's almost like Post Punk kind of I absolutely love them but yeah that's mine I I don't really have one I'm sorry yeah Iran doesn't listen to music I mean I do I just I wouldn't say any of them like are small I mean Mudvayne maybe oh God I used to love Mudvayne man you know like be like hey but I also like listen I like Coldplay I like slip knot I like Pink Floyd and The Who I mean like people have heard of them so it's tough to say like an Undiscovered gem that nobody else really knows or whatever I don't I'm really happy yeah I think mudvayan fits that Bill maybe Mudvayne does I mean but my friends like mukbang too so like it's just oh whatever you know they're still going they I think they reunited uh yeah but I absolutely I loved their first album but hey their second album so much I stopped listening to them let's stop listening completely oh I just thought of another band uh I know if you're into metal um there's two British bands that you should definitely check out uh one's called employed to serve uh British metal band and the other is called sixth uh spelled s-i-k-t-h they are both absolutely incredible if you love them at all so definitely listen to those they're not that big though alorhan grogo says Hey Jones unfortunately I won't be able to listen live but I want to say thanks for putting on the quote most AAA Banger podcasts of all time Joe Rogan's got nothing on the Xbox too you were talking about podcast self self-proclaiming the other week feel free to use that one in the future both of you stay strong during the not E3 season and know your Works appreciated can't wait for your takes over the next few weeks months cheers welcome to Xbox two podcast the most AAA Banger podcast of all time reviewed better than Joe Rogan yeah quotes from yeah uh blade to oven now that we see more and more evidence potentially showing that the series s is holding back Xboxes Jen do you think they could find a workaround by allowing games to run the series s through Cloud similar to the switch runs games such as Hitman plague's tale and control no I don't think no have they started doing that for the Xbox one yet I don't know have they can you I don't know I don't know I'm not sure stuff I don't have an Xbox One to check I think they're sort of locked into that so supporting Series S with digital games or physical well not physical but digital actual native versions for as long as the console supported which could be another 10 years realistically I just don't see a scenario where it's like well now all the games on on the series ask their Cloud versions I don't think that's gonna happen uh yeah I don't think so I could I could I could easily see it like it like I can imagine a scenario let's say that does happen I can imagine a class action lawsuit of like hey Microsoft's you know said like these like and now all the games are Cloud streaming but I don't really have reliable internet to do that sort of thing I could easily see some sort of cloud game like a class action lawsuit or at least a lawyer wanting to do that Microsoft promised this and didn't deliver and change I could say it proven how many games announced that the 2020 showcase do you think could show up at the upcoming showcase Fable stated K3 about ever while stalker 2. uh I mean two I think two of those two of those hmm what do you think uh what was the question again how many games how many of the games announced at the 2020 showcase do you think could show up at this showcase Fable stated K3 about ever wild stalker two and I said two of those I'm gonna say four four of them oh man that's almost all of them except one yeah okay and we'll see who's we'll see that's not bad that's not based on anything that's not a leak it's just a vague prediction right cracking 56 hey guys I saw a take from Cobra on reset air today usually agree with most of his takes but I couldn't disagree more on this one he said Don't expect Fable because it would overcrowd the show with big RPGs the Optics are not good right now for Xbox big games they need to change that and it starts with showing off great games to excite people did anyone care in 2016 or any other Sony showcase when they showed off multiple third person action adventure story games not everyone talks about how good they are they were because of the content Fable and Starfield may be more popular than a vowed but if the game shows well and is good to do three big Western RPGs in one show doesn't really matter they can also have more developer directs as well if they want to shine a light on a vowed well so his take was basically don't expect Fable because it would overshadow a vowed I mean it's it kind of reads like that which is interesting because you would just are you assuming you're getting a gameplay reveal for fable I would I would doubt that very much if Fable was there um you know so I don't I I disagree with with clover as well if you got the games and the games and they want to show the games and they're ready to show the games in a good light show what you can if you Starfield is you know going to be after the show in its own thing um do you not show a vowed because well it would be overshadowed by Starfield if I was not coming out till next year How Could It Be overshadowed by Starfield starfield's gonna be out in September right I don't know I'm just of the idea if you got something good to show show it even if it's something if even if it's a very similar sort of thing so yeah I think um XBox feels the same way for what's with yes so there you go I disagree I guess I I usually agree with cobra stuff I love them talk to him quite a bit but I disagree on this one if it's ready to be shown and they want to show it I don't think it it overshadows anything at all yeah I mean just think of many RPGs I've actually got in development they can't at some point they've got to accept there's got to be some overlap yeah right I mean maybe you don't show project Cobalt because it's too too early or whatever but it's like if if playground games wants to show Fable and obsidian wants to show about then you show them simple as that I agree uh lee Sanders says afternoon gentlemen love the ultimate show with the Showcase Fantasy Draft anyone that hasn't dived into it patreon I really recommend it was Zelda out last week and feeling somewhat left out with everyone played while it turns to my 500 game backlog I thought I would steer the question towards the chat of the deep backlog of games being an early Achievement Hunter and now more of a Casual Gamer while chasing them have just surpassed 300 000 gamer score I've fallen massively behind a lot of games famously games like Mass Effect Assassin's Creed gears I have fallen just fallen way behind and such and which pains me when I see the latest game arrive and I want to play it but out of all the games that you want to get back to and play which game is always recommended to you that you want to play but have never played honest and on a second note I am more like jazz when it comes to gaming jumping from game to game currently I'm juggling Forza Horizon 5 Hi-Fi Rush Star Wars Jedi Fallen order and Psychonauts but you Rand are one and move on how do you manage them any tips because I would love to be able to do that but I think I I have this deep down worrying feeling of it's if of if it's finished I would be sad it's over but then it explains the above cheers again for the great show CMA sucks massive donkey balls Lee Sanders um yeah nicely yeah um surround so you've got to answer this question um the other games that we want to go back and play which game is always recommended to you that you want to play but have never played the one game that is probably on my uh list to play there's two and I'm planning on going back to them at some point is Guardians of the Galaxy which I mentioned a few times and cyberpunk 2077. yeah I forgot you I keep you then you implied that those would be the two um that I that I have that are that are at the top of the list and it's more like okay are there any there are no more new games coming out there's some time where it's like I can develop I can devote 50 hours to cyberpunk but then there's also books and it's like sometimes when I I'm really in the Jedi right now so I'm not reading that much um but but that usually happens because I usually kind of like go all in on one of these things so for me to be both of those and I don't know any tips about playing one game at a time I don't know I just it's kind of what I've always done I play something until I'm finished and I move on maybe it has to do with the fact that like maybe it had to do with the fact that I was always trying to maximize my game Fly right because you get a game game from GameFly and just a game Fly GameFly is a game rental service where they eat where they mail you a game to your house right right so I always was trying to maximize how many games I could get out from GameFly versus how much I'm paying for it right so if I get four games from GameFly but I'm going in between all four it'll take longer and longer before I finish one to send it back to get a different game so I always kind of focused on okay well I just mailed this game back and you know it's gonna take two days for to get there and then if they send one right away it'll take another two days to get to get to me so in the meantime I'm gonna finish this other game I have from GameFly and then okay I'm finished with this so we I think maybe it comes from that of trying to maximize my return where I'd be like I finished this one game boom it's out the door and it's mailed the game Fly and it's on the next one and then while that game's coming back going back and forth from GameFly to me I'm already on the the other game I have and boom I'm done I send that right so it was constant flowing of games in and out because of the way I would finish something where if I just was playing a whole bunch at once it could take months before you would finish with it and you're just wasting money on the service right um but yeah um um yeah so achievement if XBox had more invested in the early Xbox One days was third party games I didn't I didn't say what game okay all I need okay which one I'm sorry probably Star Wars yeah okay you need to get I haven't I haven't got around to him yeah achievement says it talking about it if XBox had more investment in the early Xbox One days which third-party games do you think they would have made exclusive that gen probably would have at least ponied up to keep the Call of Duty marketing rights right probably yes 100 yes uh maybe they would have spent more to try to get FIFA rights you know like like the like and maybe NBA rights like the the games that the casuals sort of play the maddens the fifas the 2ks uh Grand Theft Auto stuff like that they I think they had that during the 360 days too uh and I think PlayStation's gonna have it for this one maybe so it'd be it'd be those bigger games right um Governor Grimm just a quick question this time why do journalists suddenly think Starfield is going to bomb between Dustin and Ryan there are suddenly very strange takes on Starfield do you think Starfield being 30 FPS is equivalent to it bombing no but uh people might look at the series X in a weird way of like oh most powerful console can't run Starfield at 60 or whatever um and I think we when we talked about the Starfield Under Pressure both me and Jazz agree that starfield's important but I sort of feel like the Articles and the takes are reaching ridiculous kind of levels of importance where it's like it's their last chance of redemption right uh leading people to say Xbox is basically dead if Starfield doesn't deliver um I mean it'll be bad if Starfield doesn't deliver don't get me wrong but like I don't I don't like the brand won't die you know I don't know like it's it's it's a weird maybe it's just the way the article was positioned as like uh as like it's the last hope because people have been saying that about Xbox for for an almost all last gen to now I mean Halo infinite was supposed to be like the last chance for Xbox if you remember yeah I mean and that's sort of the thing I think is like it'll keep getting the goal post will keep getting put pushed further and further back it wasn't Halo infinite it it's Starfield oh it's not Starfield it's Fable or something right I don't know I I just sort of feel like it's not fair to Starfield to put that insane amount of pressure on it where you're already setting the narrative well in advance of everything like oh it needs to deliver or else like nobody says that about any of PlayStation or or uh Playstation or Nintendo games but like and I understand Xbox is yeah it said about 18 months they didn't deliver right and they didn't have any launch games like that's not to say people shouldn't you know be like concerned about certain stuff like after redfall I'm like yo what the hell is going on this can't ever happen again it shouldn't have happened in the first place but also it's like the idea that if Starfield comes out and it's not good well that's just further proof that Xbox has ruined Bethesda that Phil and Company can't run the business that people will leave Xbox One and like the numbers right now paying an opposite picture well sure the hardware is low but their monthly active users are more than PlayStation and the money they're making is more than ever before and I would imagine the next upcoming to fiscal quarters will be higher than the previous ones so does the actual facts based the actual facts facts based on like the brand will die does that align with what reality or is it just like a huge Twitter Echo chamber that has no basis in what's actually happening like you know does does Starfield matter does God of War matter to all the people playing hankai Star rail whatever the game is that at 20 million downloads in a day or whatever I don't know um I just I don't know I I just agree that starfield's important but I just kind of laugh at the idea that it's the last chance at Redemption I don't know I I just find that kind of absurd yeah I think like if Starfield isn't like say it's like in the low 80s like for whatever reason you know are these people who said that Xbox is dead are they gonna be like oh yeah Xbox is dead now because starfield's scored in that low 80s or something uh I I doubt it very very highly so of course I hit 30 million monthly active users Microsoft owns Minecraft for God's sake you know it's it's absurd to say that any single game can you know lead to the end you know I don't know but you know people people got to get clicks man yeah and like you know narratives and all that stuff right like it's just it's like Oh The Narrative will be this it's well it only be this because you're setting the narrative you're IGN your Forbes like people pay attention to what you say so like you're whether you you know it consciously or whatever you're setting up the narrative you know uh so we'll see Starfield you know we'll see we'll see what it does um cyberized says first time asking patreon question just wanted to say that y'all host the best podcast around and even my wife who doesn't care about games knows Rand and Jazz and listens into the podcast every now and then keep up the good work wow that's awesome that's that's kind of crazy and then we got this big one from Bitcoin man he says Hey guys let's listen to Jeff gertzman's podcast episode 49 around the hour 19 Mark he was talking about Xbox and how it manages and handles the day-to-day I have some quotes from him that gave some insight on how Xbox policies get in the way for developing and trying to do anything on Xbox I wanted to see if you guys have any inputs on it sorry if it's a little long I actually listened to this podcast so I'll just pick some Tuesdays here yeah Jeff said my read on Phil Spencer is that he's very genuine does care about the stuff he cares he cares he does he does care he says he does care about the stuff he cares about or he says he cares about that is necessarily that is not necessarily a front obviously he's also running a business and you know like doing all that too so you know you kind of have to factor that in there the thing I've heard over the years and this is kind of older stuff at this point but it's not to say that it's still not there but it's kind of put some of this in perspective the thing you hear about a lot and this is something before Phil Spencer was in the job before he was in uh this position and after you still hear about it is that Microsoft people are Microsoft people something that you uh I lost my my place um something that you always heard about the way Microsoft has ran is that they would make a decision and go with it and you could go to them and say hey this policy you have is screwing me over and they would be like well that's the policy the policy is there for a reason obey the policy and sometimes those policies impact Developers the thing I've always heard about Phil Spencer in the way that Microsoft the Xbox businesses run and Microsoft is that there's a shell around him or there's a shell around even just a leadership team to a certain extent with people who are used to being yeah the policy is the policy I'm not going to be one that takes that up the chain and so if you can get through that and get to Phil and say hey man this is bad for me a third-party external developer this thing that's making our job harder can we get an exception here that 10 times out of 10 he does the right thing that he's like oh this is crazy we need to not do this we need to rethink this I don't know how much of that is still there because obviously he's been in the chair for a good long time now but when he was first coming into the role there was a lot of BS policies around Xbox of like this is the way they do things because they built all these policies when they were on top with the 360 and then they didn't get away fast it didn't get away from them fast enough when the Xbox one came out and tanked but generally speaking they all want to do what's right not only for the players but for the industry and developers which has led to this constant chirping constant chipping away at those policies and those other things but in order to get the ball rolling you have to crack that shell and get in there and be like look this is crappy and then finally there'll be someone like wait how come you didn't tell me that this policy was still like this we can't do that we have to make it right and it's probably disrupted to some of the other things that they are trying to get done because they're dropping everything to fix some brain dead policy so he says so do you guys agree with Jeff's doing with Jeff that doing anything in Xbox is difficult because they have to keep chipping away at these policies and it's hard to get in contact with Phil because of them in the Shell around Phil and the leadership team thanks for the great content you guys put out every week um and put simply yeah everything he said is completely in line with what I've heard and um yeah there's no other way of saying it everything that Jeff goes with said is is completely in line with what I've heard um you know I've been I've been covering Microsoft for man almost a decade now like eight years seven years eight years I think I'm in eight years now at this point and the kind of scans heavily you know I know when I remember we used to talk about how um one of the issues that Microsoft had was that um XBox was under the windows division you know which led to a lot of a lot of these policy issues you know especially around funding and around money which is why like you had um uh uh ah man I can't remember his name now my memory is so bad that dude on Twitter the analyst from Nico Partners why don't I remember his job uh it's a huge yeah that chap yeah so he um he famously said Xbox has got no funding left um like that turned out to be wrong but to be fair to him at the time it was right at the time it was correct and that was partially because of the the way Xbox was on the window so one of the first things Phil did was being fully aware of what Microsoft is like it was like okay I've got to get Xbox sort of shifted to be its own thing to be its own Division and not be part of windows so that was part of that chipping away that policy and I think like over time like this this the stuff that feels still discovering even now that needs to be fixed and needs to be repaired and I the one thing I would disagree with is it's not necessarily a shell I think it's more of the fact that it's very complicated being at Microsoft very complicated and it's not so much a shell as it is there's just not enough man hours in the day to to tackle all the stuff that needs to be fixed so like they're kind of like it's kind of like triage they're kind of fixing things as they come up and as they're a problem and as they're they can be amended and I think redfall is a big war shed moment honestly for like the the I already know that they've implemented changes about how they sort of do some of this stuff because of redfall and I also like last year with the the Xbox event being the 12 months thing um and then not panning out to 12 months I think like some responsibilities have shifted for like setting messages for marketing events because of that as well so like some of the some of the policies and the disconnect between um some of the stuff that you know over time is gradually getting fixed and I don't think it's because of a shell I think it's just because they're just very busy you know and there's just so much to do and there's so much that needs to be done and um I've already said Microsoft's like this slow lumbering Behemoth and it takes ages to turn them around because there's such a big complicated 40 year old business with like crazy amounts of you know polit office politics and you know like you go to Microsoft HQ man it's like a city it's got its own Starbucks and so its own shopping center and stuff like that it's huge you don't you don't get how big this company is until you physically go there it's like oh my God you know I can't believe you know they call it Microsoft campus but they really should call it Microsoft City it's it's massive you know so yeah I think that's where some of that stuff lies and yeah I think they're gradually chipping away yeah Jeff Jeff's right I mean I don't know if it's like that anymore but yeah if it was under you know I mean even even look at just a quick example the Xbox app on PC there's like XBox doesn't fully own that it's also the windows team right so there's like they've gradually chipped away yeah they're gradually chipped away at that and and it would say more about that build I think yeah if it was always in the possession of Xbox it would probably look different but it's like two teams with whatever and it's like that's three teams that's part of the it's part of the stuff that you know Jeff's talking about here um we have jax what do you guys think of the battle pass in OverWatch personally it needs to scale down a bit some of the challenges you have to win 50 matches come on uh I don't even I don't know anything about the Battle pass I think like the battle pass is a bit aggressive I think like even I struggle with it like you know um as someone who plays quite a lot of OverWatch as someone who owns the premium tier so I get 20 extra I think the bottle price could be a little bit more friendly especially given the fact that those skins disappear forever once or maybe they'll end up in the shop later I really like the multiversist battle pass like the well no more verse this is basically dead now but the first battle pass was like I got I got through that pretty quickly and I was like oh that's really nice but the problem there is like once I finish the battle pass I pretty much quit the game and never went back to it so maybe it's like maybe it's the way it is for a reason keep you playing I don't know yeah achievement says so is that Arcane Austin the D team well right now probably yeah they're at the very bottom right yeah Forte remember for 31 months I've been blessed by having the ability to listen to random Jazz while playing future Game of the Year tears of the Kingdom great show homies Xbox ain't done hold the line Forte although get rid of that oh the line yeah math speculation so showcase new game announcements Xbox or Playstation who has more and will Xbox have a big game at the Keely show I mean uh I mean Xbox all already has a lot of known games MAV so just off the basis of that I would say PlayStation has more new game announcements because they're just the only only people only games they know from PlayStation are from first party is Spider-Man 2 and Wolverine we still know a whole bunch of Xbox games so just based off that I'll say PlayStation has more new game announcements but but I don't know I don't I don't know anything that's just a pure guess and will they have a big game at the Achilles uh what like at Summer Games Fest um I can't imagine X maybe something small maybe something really small they do have a prisons idea Xbox uh the um Achilles well there you go so no I don't know this makes sense to have a big game at the keeleys when you have your own show literally a couple days later uh biggity says this China approved the deal indeed they have uh Daniel even if Starfield isn't a 10 it still has mods and long after we stop playing all these games this year we'll still be playing Star field some people definitely will be yeah I will yeah it's good it's a game yeah but you know what I think I think that comes to the end of the show um I hope everybody enjoyed it before we end the show I just wanna um fun speculation Marv on on Twitter he just posted a leaked Xbox showcase bro what the one that we already read or a different one no no a new one okay ready for this ready for this I just I just run through some of the games GTA 6 is exclusive to Xbox Thundercats Ninja Turtles Red Dead yeah okay I mean he just typed it up as well it's funny Hello Kitty MMO exclusive to Xbox I mean Xbox podcast simulator oh I like that one yeah that's pretty cool but uh yeah let's get out of here bro yeah thank you guys for being here we love you all hope you had a great time if you did and hit that like button subscribe to the show we'll be back next Friday with another episode of the Xbox 2 and maybe it'll be our prediction show because who knows what we doing that week before but uh yeah I hope you guys have a great weekend keep it gaming love you all bugs laters

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Published: Fri May 19 2023