Why Does this Exist? - Ender 5 S1 Review

what's up everybody JJ here today we are reviewing the Ender 5 S1 it's a weird printer at a weird price I don't really know why this printer exists but they sent it and I've been using it for a few months and we're gonna check it out and I'm really glad I spent a few months on this review because I've got a lot to talk about but first up I wanted to thank everyone we reached 100 000 subscribers I got that plaque back there thank you all so much for watching and subscribing liking it means so much to me thank you first off when talking about this printer it's important to keep the price in mind and it's going to scare a lot of people away 560 dollars and so is it worth that when you can get the Ender 3s1 for 330 dollars is this huge price premium worth it no but we're gonna get into that so let's go down their specs check it out well we need to review this in stock configuration so you don't get a Pei coated bed in stock configuration it comes with this polycarbonate bed and if anyone has seen my shorts you know how much I dislike this bed it sticks way too hard it's damaged from every you can see every single print I've done on here because it embeds itself and damages the bed every time you remove that print it is flexible but a lot of times it doesn't Flex enough to be able to remove it it's just holding on way too strongly when you can buy a Pei bed at 20 to 30 dollars those are amazing they hold on well when they're hot they release really easily when it's cold you should just upgrade to one of those so they cheap down on the bed build volume is it very big you get 220 by 220 by 280. pretty standard build volume very similar to the Ender three that's not a good look direct drive all metal hot end that's pretty standard you've got a CR touch Auto bed leveling system that's nice to see on a printer but in 2023 both of those features are pretty standard on most printers it comes in this box frame and that's really all you're getting as an upgrade from the Ender 3. it is a box and it should be really stable and it should be really good at high speed printing but they put a Cartesian motion system on here so this motor moves the x-axis and this motor back here moves the y-axis even though it is a box and would make core XY really easy to implement on this Frame they didn't do it it's still a Cartesian system there's a bunch of different differences between Cartesian and core XY core XY is just generally better at high speed Printing and there's other videos that would explain it in more detail in general it's just better at high speed printing Cartesian is fine especially at cheaper printers but an expensive printer like this that's still using Cartesian it's like why am I spending so much money on it they're still using vslop wheels on here they're not using linear rods or linear rails they do have linear rods on the z-axis which is good to see but these wheels are already starting to wear out on me at least this one is really starting to wear out and I haven't been using it all that much well is it very good at high speed printing because they do advertise a ton saying it's a high speed printer but then those numbers they put out there aren't all that good they say 2 000 millimeters per second squared acceleration if you were to go up to the bamboo Labs p1p which is a 700 printer they're giving you 20 000 millimeters per second squared acceleration so it makes 2000 look really bad at 560 dollars speed wise they claim you can print up to 260 millimeters per second this Porygon was printed outer walls were printed at 60 millimeters per second and this is how bad the ringing is on here it's just a lot of ringing and artifacts that are showing up at slower speeds here's some other examples of just pretty poor print quality this is with silk filament so it's gonna show off those results they're stock binchy they do come with a pre-loaded pre-sliced benchy on there and it turns out well but it takes close to an hour to print that benching that is not a speed benching a speed benchy I would call 30 minutes or under gets into the realm of speed benches they're not amazing world class or anything when in the 45 to an hour range of benches that's a pretty standard benchy so when it comes to the specs of this printer pretty normal in a lot of ways it just comes with this box frame on it that makes it more stable when it comes to the usability of this printer full size SD card on this side I do like that a lot of printers use micro SD cards and those can be a little more fiddly on switches on the left the filament loads up through this filament run out detector up through this is called a reverse Bowden tube when it's a direct drive but you still have this Bowden tube feeding over to the spool weird design on the top here that doesn't hold on to the Bowden tube very well so it just slides out really easily if you're trying to push filament up through this side that force will just pop this out kind of a weird design there when it comes to actually using the touch screen here it's a nice big touch screen pretty standard on a lot of printers but there's one big downside and I think you'll notice it as soon as I start showing you how to use it did you notice that beep it's very loud and every single time you press anything on the touch screen it beeps at you to let you know you've pressed a button I guess and there's no way to turn it off which is super Annoying It's louder than the print fans are I thought the printer fans were fairly loud but this beeper wins the cake with how shrill it is it's really annoying to use that touch screen if I was going to keep this printer around I would go in there and desolder that buzzer so that it wouldn't be doing this and you have to input a lot of commands to change filament or start a print and it's going to be beeping at you every single time so that is really annoying the next weird part of this printer is how loud it is at high speeds and I'm not even talking about the fans the fans are fairly loud but a fan noise should be pretty constant honestly I'm okay with it these motors are loud when you try to push it 100 150 millimeters per second they start squealing at you something's weird here where when you start pushing the speeds it gets loud again and I think that has to do with how the stepper motor drivers are configured at least in my usage of clipper if you set those configurations wrong it can leave stealth chop and enter spread cycle it's a different way of controlling Motors and can make them loud again the whole switching from one to the other which can happen if the stepper motor drivers are not set up correctly for what you're trying to do at least that's my theory on why it's happening that way in general it's just loud at high speeds the motors are squealing at you when it tries to get up to high speeds so while I have been pretty negative about this printer I have got some pretty good prints off of it and there are some good things I can say as well I want to make this a well-rounded review their Cura profile is set up really well reality has been around for a while and the community has been working on their profile for so long that's something you can't say for other companies when you get their cure a profile for their printer you still need to do a lot of tuning this one right out of the box worked but it was pretty slow compared to what they advertise a big part of my complaints with the speed on this printer is just their advertising is saying hey it's all these amazing fast things when in reality it's not an amazing speed printer it's a fine normal speed printer reliability is pretty good this extruder on here is really heavy but it works pretty well overall there are a lot of benefits to having a bed razor like this instead of a normal bed Slinger printer I do like these for taking time lapse videos of your print being printed but the problem is the price point here I always say when looking at the price of printers 200 is an entry level printer you might be missing some features there but that's your cheapest you probably should go 300 adds a lot of great features you should get Auto bed level and you should get direct drive at around that 300 400 to get even better but then this one coming out at almost six hundred dollars is not great if you bump it up a little bit more for the 700 you get the bamboo Labs p1p that one has its own issues it's not a perfect printer for seven hundred dollars but when you look at those specs versus these specs there's a lot of reasons to sort of bump up to that one so when summing this printer up I would say skip it go for something more expensive or something cheaper that will give you the same specs as this if you own this printer right now keep using it you don't need to sell it to try to get a better printer if it's working well for you enjoy it use it if you got it and it's not working well for you maybe you can return it if you could get this for 400 to 450 that'd be maybe a hundred dollars over the Ender three I think this could be a really good price if they put a pro version of this out that put a better build plate on here remove the Beeper on there put linear rails on here Core X Y I don't think they're gonna do that but there's so many things they could have put on here at this price point to make this a better printer but right now at this price point it's not a great purchase anyway I hope this review has helped you out if you've enjoyed this video hit that like button down below so more companies will send me more printers and I can let you know how they really are to use well that's one down and I've got several more printers around here I've got a review go out there create something amazing today and I'll see you in the next video foreign

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Length: 9min 41sec (581 seconds)

Published: Fri Mar 10 2023