Why Did We Fight Illidan In The Burning Crusade? - World of Warcraft

illidan returns with the legion and from this expansion so far we see cinematics of his past self from when he was born before the time of the War of the Ancients to the time of the War of the Ancients and finally did the time of where we fought him at the Black Temple but why exactly did we attack him in the Burning Crusade what was the reason behind it in this video you'll find out why during the events of Warcraft 3 my EF tells Malfurion that Tyrande had been torn apart by the undead when in reality ta'rhonda had held a line against the undead but in doing so she was swept down a river after the bridge that she was standing on had collapsed my F does this in order to focus malfurion's full attention on hunting down and punishing Illidan instead of trying to save Tyrande later it is revealed that Tyrande had survived Illidan helped save her and for his actions the pair allows him to escape but Maiev doesn't allow this she follows him through Outland captures him but then ultimately was ambushed by lady Vash and Prince Kael'thas which results in Illidan breaking free this ambush enrages Maiev because not only this Illidan escape her grasp but most of her Watchers who were killed in the process leaving only 30 of them left to wander the alien planet of outland now as they struggled to recruit allies find food and water while fending off creatures native to the land Illidan begins building his army and he started by defeating magtheridon imprisoning him and using his blood to create fel orcs loyal to him not only this but he also made the Black Temple his main headquarters which angered a comma because he wanted the temple to be delivered into his hands so that it may be purified instead however Illidan kept possession of the temple and began bolstering his forces to defend against a possible legion invasion and to train demon hunters to strike back at the Legion themselves he did however say to a comma without any intent of deception at all that after he did what he needed to do then the temple would be delivered back into the brokens hands a comma hearing this and faking his allegiance to Illidan nodded and thanked him but what he ended up doing was he started to conspire with Maiev and her Watchers he told her of how Illidan was strengthening his forces which worried but he also told her that Illidan was doing it to defy the legion which she did not believe seeing how her watchers would fare no chance against illidan's vast army she too began to bolster her Forces recruiting broken drat I every race that wanted to dethrone Illidan and delivered the temple back to a comet so that it may be purified along the way she traveled to shatter earth where she spoke to a doubt the Naaru and it refused to aid her as the comet told her before the Naaru repeated it told my if the Illidan was bolstering his troops to divide the Legion and at this point in time there was no point in aiding her in her mission infuriated and enraged at the beings refusal to aid her she ends up going back to a comma where the to devise a plan to assassinate Illidan in a time and place where he would be vulnerable a comma told her of how Illidan planned on creating some sort of ritual and that he needed to be outside of the black temple in order to conduct it outside where he would be vulnerable and together they attacked him what she and her forces did not know however was that Illidan had discovered that a comma was a double agent and for his treachery Illidan ripped a portion of a comma from his soul this portion was known as the shade of a comma and should a comma betray him again Illidan would use the shade to consume a comma from within binding both the comma and his entire Ashe tongue tribe forever into Illidan service with no choice he betrayed my F and her forces leading to my f being captured in all of her forces being slaughtered she was then taken back to the black temple where she would be held prisoner until the time of where we raided the black temple but let's put them aside for now let's instead talk about Illidan and us the players why exactly we attacked him Illidan wanted nothing more than to destroyed the Legion this led him to the mindset that the means justified the ends although he didn't have beef with the natives of Outlands such as the broken he was willing to sacrifice everything if it meant dismantling the Legion in time others thought the way he did blood elves who admired him who resented the Legion and who would do anything to stop the Burning Legion from returning traveled to him natives who heard of his deeds who admired his mindset and who had lost everything in the war of the Ancients sawed him out and thus he trade them all to become demon hunters his Elite which he would lead not only against demons still loyal to the Burning Legion in Outland but which he also led on missions across demon home world such as the homeworld of the Natha regime however a huge flaw in Illidan's mindset was that he did not share his plans with others outside of his circle of trust that means that when we the players came into Outland everything was an enemy to us the demons felt works Naga literally everything these guys have been hostile in the past we don't know what their intentions are now so in our minds they are pretty much still hostile however unknown to us was that we would have never been able to step foot into Outland were it not for Illidan when we entered the portal and fought against the Burning Legion demons at the stare of Destiny a doom Lord by the name of high Lord cruel and his personal elite was about to flank and ambush us before they did however Illidan and his hunters dismantled the doom Lord and his forces saving our lives and allowing us to journey into Outland Illidan did this because at the end of the day what he did he did for Azeroth and he thought that we would fend off the demons still loyal to the Burning Legion long enough for him to put his plans into action plans such as invading Argus and killing kil jaeden which would deal a massive blow to the Burning Legion however he miscalculated not only did we attack his enemies in Outland but we also attacked him we saw fel orcs and magtheridon a pit Lord that for some unknown reason to us was not yet killed and a citadel which was ran by orcs juiced out by demon steroids so what do we do we kill them not knowing that these fel orcs were tools to ultimately be used against the Burning Legion following this one of illidan's lieutenants also fell Vash hoot astronaut with enslaving the broken to fuel their means was killed by us the Nagas were hoarding water so that the races of the land would have no other choice but to ally with them in order to survive again Illidan stop process the ends justify the means if the cosmetic you slaves work for him in order for the payoff to be the destruction of Argos it would be well worth it we however did not know what the hell was going on we didn't know that Illidan really was leading attacks on Legion homeworld so we killed the Nagas in Zanger Marsh freed the slaves and ultimately set back illidan's plans by a good amount of time now as time goes on a comma continues to feign his allegiance to Illidan for the good of himself and his people while also conspiring with us he explains to us that Illidan has control of his soul the shade of a comma and so because of this he cannot openly declare his allegiance to the naaru so he resorts to dispatching us to talk to a doll in his place and update the naaru on the commons plants to siege the black temple upon reaching a doll the naaru shows us a vision of indicators and blood of magi already at the black temple which we pieced together as the distraction that we were waiting for in order to infiltrate the black temple and dethrone Illidan when we return to Akama he leads us through an opening in the wall since the bulk of the black temples defenders are already distracted which allows us to then defeat many of illidan's lieutenants and finally make our way to a commis shade where we defeated and ultimately allow a comma to once again control his soul with nothing left in mind but to defeat Illidan libery Outland from his tyranny and regain control of the black temple a common leads us directly to the lord of outland where with the help of Maiev who was freed by a comma some time ago and despite his past betrayal she agrees once again to ally with him if it meant killing Illidan with her help we managed to defeat Illidan and that is pretty much the reason why we fought Illidan guys a comma and his people were enslaved a comma soul was ripped from him demons and fel orcs who were running rampant across Outland and we viewed them as enemies the Nagas held full control of the only source of water in Outland and Illidan kept his true plans to attack the Legion a secret from us so we really had no idea what was going on in his head from our perspective he was just another person who posed a threat to us when in reality he was trying to save countless worlds from the legion some may say that it's messed up he enslaved the broken made the shade of a comma used Mac the rodents blood to create more felt works but in the end if it meant destroying Argos the arid our home world kil Jaeden and possibly the entire Burning Legion it would have been well worth the trouble [Music] you [Music]

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Keywords: World of Warcraft, WoW, The Burning Crusade, Illidan Stormrage, Illidan Lore, Who is Illidan, The Story of Illidan, WoW Demon Hunters, Demon Hunter Lore, Burning Crusade Lore, Why Did We Fight Illidan in BC, Why Did We Kill Illidan in the Burning Crusade, Lore, Legion Lore, Illidan Stormrage Legion, World of Warcraft Legion, The Burning Legion, Illidan Novel, 'Black Temple, Akama, Maiev Shadowsong, Illidan Questline, Illidan Cut Scenes, Is Legion Good, Hellscream

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Length: 9min 29sec (569 seconds)

Published: Sat Oct 22 2016

Reddit Comments

[u/Semlohwerd]

This is a great summation. We came through the portal because it opened again and we knew it was trouble. Basically if the portal is rockin we come knockin.

From our perspective Illidan was just on a power trip in Outland. Enslaving people, hoarding water to oppress the people into slavery, etc...seems like a pretty bad dude.

Without knowing that he was doing it all to attack the Legion it just seemed like a power trip.

[u/TheBaconator3000]

We fought Illidan in BC because he was enslaving Broken, we thought his Naga were up to no good in Serpent Shrine(wasn't actually his Naga though) Kael was up to no good although he broke off from Illidan but we didn't know that right away and other similar "someone was doing bad so blame Illidan" stuff and all in all he just caused too much collateral damage.

Edit: I was thinking of Kael leaving Illidan's forces, although Vashj could have been working for Azshara more than Illidan but draining the lakes was for sure Illidan's doing

[u/Lolrog]

Because my set looked awkward without the chest piece

[u/sj2011]

Because he was a bad guy from WC3. He's just being retconned now into some 'it was all for a higher purpose!' anti-hero now.

From the very beginning he's been all about gaining power, more and more of it, and it led him down a dark path to demonic influence.

Just kidding, nope, he's been a good guy all along.

[u/[deleted]]

Because he's the hero that Azeroth deserves, but not the one it needs right now. So we'll hunt him. Because he can take it. Because he's not a hero. He's a silent guardian. A watchful protector. A DEMON HUNTER.

[u/ddubspecial]

God I hate the way this guy writes and speaks.

[u/kiwisavage]

they messed up the lore pretty bad in the first few expansions, prob because they didn't expect WoW to be such a hit.

[u/NuArcher]

Honestly - if Thrall was attackable and dropped... say, a cool hat. Do you think we'd hesitate for an instant to attack him?

[u/bigblackcouch]

Because before retconning the shit out of the expac, Illidan was written as becoming a batshit crazy evil dickhead. Although the story wasn't as well fleshed-out as Wrath's as far as establishing the main villain, a large chunk of things wrong with Outland were because of Illidan and his crew.

The Tempest Keep instances and raids, along with how fuckity Netherstorm was, that was Kael'thas doing what he wanted to with Illidan's blessing. Same for Serpentshrine's instances and raids.

Basically, Illidan was Megatron, Kael'thas was Starscream, and Lady Vashj is Soundwave. Everybody needs killin'. It was bad writing to begin with, but even worse writing that lead us to where we are now. NPCs telling me what a stupid shithead I was for killing Illidan, what a load of crap. It would've worked out just fine if Illidan was just a necessary evil to deal with and we got him back, vs him being SpaceJesus.

Good writing lets you work within the confines of a story to change it up if necessary. Bring an old bad guy back because you need his help? Let him still be a grumpy asshole but go by the whole "the enemy of my enemy is my friend." schtick. Bad writing just tells you that you were secretly wrong the whole time and that you're the bad guy for doing good deeds but being too dumb to know they were secretly bad deeds.

And this is why, much like the points on Whose Line Is It Anyway, the lore of WoW is all made up via improv and doesn't matter.