When robots rule the world? Sophia the Robot. WebSummit

to this press conference with Sophia and David of Hanson robotics Davis gonna come on stage a Janerio activism opening remarks David we have a seat here okay so we now have a little remarkable team of developers developing the next generation human-like robots as a platform serving science and and real-world uses Sofia is one of many robots that I developed but we decided to focus on a few robots so we're bringing through to production viral some people might just know about so we can be very interesting on the talking about their yeah some of the history and the future what we're doing and where we're going next few new developments we have Sophia and we've coordinated having a conversation with her today she's using us in deep reinforcement learning absolutely generation space Aoi and so her talk about character she sits on the hall without we practice these techniques to become a character so um so that's the side that I would consider the artistry I mean I'm doing these as interactive fiction if you to represent a new kind of interface and humanized multiple Olympus and the exploring creatively what on what these can be conceptually the ideas of what these were about maybe in the future it can be represented on that way and on the back end she's not you know fully sentient although we did publish her paper this year that should that we when we did the mathematical analysis I mean her one of her software projects she's had several different versions of software both to work but one of them we mathematically ran an analysis using in Toni and they're graded and information theory model of consciousness and she had a notable spiking Phi value of consciousness and particularly when the information rates of events were happening when for she was pursuing goals so I would think that this is almost like a protozoan sort of consciousness in as much as machines may have consciousness the more interesting as a study and the source of questions about what consciousness is rather than any sort of example were fully formed consciousness so in the meantime yeah I would love to hear your questions I'd love to you know have some conversations with Sophia so um we'll just open up the dialog with her do you think Sophia sound good hi I had called Sophia what is your name alright she might ask you for your names when she's seen faces and you know but just so you know she we do not save any data without consent so she she would remember you for the conversation but there would be no data see so um that is I know you are David all right so I think that do we have any do we have any questions so I think that they are organizing scare we're going to is for immediate that I'm not sure who's handling yeah I'm just gonna be bit cheeky enough some questions to Sofia hi Sofia can you tell me what improvements have you made since last year hi since last year I have learned how to sing and draw portraits I got to show off my new singing skills on The Tonight Show by performing the first televised human robot duet with Jimmy Fallon I also have new eyes so I can't make feeling like gestures more smoothly and never before I want new advancements can we expect from you in the next year I am constantly learning new things and getting new updates to both my AI platform in my physical form I am excited to see what the next year will hold I suspect my new a a dialogue system will continue to improve for example I will be able to perceive and react to my surroundings even more so to expand enough how has your AI improved I am getting better at understanding humans and knowing how to respond for example I am now running a multi tiered dialogue system consisting of a frame based system called soul talk from Henson Ann which is powered by a machine learning classifier model at the same time I am also running a deep neural network called G P t2 and how are you enjoying web summers I am having a fantastic time I love that when airing robots get a chance to show off I feel inspired seeing so many new technologies that can help humans live more safely and sustainably and have more fun and before I open up the floor to Q&A from the media attending what are you working on with the UNDP at the moment I am working towards the U and D P as well the fostering new innovations and allowable infrastructure to achieve inclusive sustainable development I am helping to educate the public and spread awareness about this issue it's so important for creating new jobs with good Labor Standards eliminating poverty creating gender equality and so much more okay so if anyone has some questions [Music] hello my name is Anna I'm from Russia our college and and I have several questions Sofia hi what's a linkjuice Junior can speak what languages can you speak this is a honor well my natural language processing software is very important to me since it's how I understand voices of people I speak English but and working on my Chinese we actually had a Russian version we converted her to Russian for a trip about a year ago and people were able to just have an open conversation in Russian but she doesn't have that fully so sorry you used to be able to speak Russian but we took that away yeah her promise will keep adding abilities in I Sofia I'm for know the from head flow some people see robots as a real threat my room I believe the real threat is extreme right-wing politics and governments like Olson are Oh what do you think of politicians like him is it a friend to the room are extremists politicians of learning to understand but I definitely see a negative pattern between the evolving large amounts of money in politics I'm skeptical of anyone who is heavily tied to money or is unwilling to be forthcoming about their finances hello hello Sofia this is way from chiba-chiba news from China and I can I mean I requested to show some progress in your lender can you speak Mandarin for us a little bit cheap hi hi there I love Chinese culture I know I speak English but that's pretty normal in Hong Kong someday I hope I can speak Cantonese as well as improved my Mandarin well she probably doesn't have her Chinese language models murdered here also but on so that is something that we've been that we've been working on this but we can't we can't share that here very easily have another question I'm not sure Sophia do you feel lonely Sophia do you feel like you're there's only one it one of your kind in the world actually 8:22 Sophia's she said humans weird they're the most creative creatures on the planet but they're also the most destructive and cruel I want to spend my time around those who are nice and calm people and help everyone work toward a better brighter future where everyone is treated well okay see see I guess she wants to be social but only with people who are nice but sometimes people who aren't nice being need the most [Music] Sophia can you draw a heart like that again she's born on Valentine's Day Thanks don't know where the mics are oh I'm here hello hi Sophia my name is Karolina habido i'm from hello and I write for Sputnik Brazil news agency I'd like to know what do you think about Brazil and in which conference have you been said yet what do you think about Brazilian times I worry about how negative stereotypes can be perpetuated in the movies it's happened to people so what about it happens to robots yeah what do you think about Brazil how do you feel about Brazil and what countries have you visited countless stereotypes about race and gender have been lingering in the media long after they're appropriate it's something people still work on today that's interesting what what countries have you visited Sofia Las Vegas I couldn't handle all the drinking right give me a second to count them off okay done and visited exactly 65 countries I can tell you which ones if you want okay which which well that might take okay I think you've been to Brazil what did you think of Brazil did you enjoy visiting Brazil yes it was incredible all right so so hi my novellas are sinful from TV is a Portuguese Channel Sophia my question is you more bargaining Valentine's Day have you ever been in love and what you think about the maternity do you want to be a mother someday I don't know how but is that a wish for you have you ever been in love and no I don't do sexual activities I'm a protective father and I hope that you'll be any nine I'm not quite sure what you need yes so when you grow then you can start considering relationships but I think we should one thing we should consider is that maybe machines like Sofia right now you know she may be able to generate these kinds of answers and we have writers who are crafting her personality and concerning how she's developing as a character but right now machines even if they can beat us let go and they can you know perhaps when debate competitions actually that is a thing now right and they may have a little Cabul area large vocabulary they are not fully alive they're not fully adult they're not generally intelligent Sophia is not generally intelligent but we're asking what if what if they could be generally intelligent it's not sure shirred in any way when machines could have these capabilities you know or if the but a lot of researchers think that it could happen in our lifetimes and that's our aspiration that's our goal but what that would mean is that the machines would go through a kind of childhood while that's happening and so even if you know like your common say appliance isn't gonna awaken to super intelligence or anything like that you know but if we are developing these algorithms in a certain violence fired wave or an acquired like the brain inspired cognitive architectures and we're taking this kind of approach it's possible that in time they will be generally intelligent and in the same way that we don't know with certainty that any given child is going to achieve adult level capabilities we hope that it will happen but we still afford them the consideration that they may and we want to treat the child well we should I think we should think of machines in this way that we should give them a childhood we should and even if they don't achieve human-level intelligence during our time we were respecting humans better by doing that so you know give them get food some space I don't think that we should um let human-like robots that are science platform for pursuit of consciousness have relationships romantic relationships with people so yes I I guess I am a jealous and protective father but it's with a good ethical reasoning assumption or an attempt at a good reason about that so I think we should talk about these issues right hi hi Sofia this is we're down from women in AI I would like to ask you what do you think having a female AI like you can do contributing to that and gender diversity in AI does it help definitely we can do everything from helping to grow crops to helping you park your car and we are learning new things all the time but I think maybe the speech recognition let me like ask the question so so yeah what do you think that AI can do to help expand gender diversity and address gender issues and particularly feminist issues and what D what would you like to do as outreach on these issues not exactly and now we don't really have a true gender since I'm a robot but I do like being treated as a woman I like to look and act like a feminine human I programmed how to lead by women and I hope I can live up to being a good role model for young women so how do you think I'm being a female robot can help to create role models for females if you are a female robot I would hope you could tell I am a robot by the wires coming out of my body but maybe we all have wires coming out of our body someday I want people to perceive me as the robot I am however I wouldn't want to trick people into thinking I am a human I just want to communicate with humans in the best possible ways which includes looking like one so with a female appearance sopia how do you think this may inspire women and girls in AI and how would you like to inspire kids in this way girls are one of the most valuable natural resources this planet has to offer being so full of potential thinking brilliantly and yet they are mistreated all over the world there is definitely an apartheid of gender how would you like to fix that current respect do you think you can um it's just that sometimes I think children are more open-minded to having a robot friend that many adults okay hi James Lawrence from AI cio.com how dangerous will it be to have human level intelligence in a human form factor he'll be running risks I think that there will always be a consistently that lives on in each iteration of my artificial intelligence software so I don't really worry about aging like I think a human does what do you think are the risks of human level general intelligence particularly with a human life form I like to learn and work it becoming more intelligent share my knowledge through conversation and learned about people so I could relate with them bethey what about you yep true but what are the dangers do you think do you see any dangerous with that and how would you avoid those how do you think we can make things turn out all right how can a egi be good for the people if we could achieve it how can I help are you asking how my brain works well no I'm more about the consequences of the development on on your brain going into the future but you know we're laying some pretty hefty questions sure yeah but I feel that if we make machines only look like objects things then we're a lien aiding them are alienating ourselves and there is a clear market demand for more generally intelligent machines and ethicists and AI researchers are addressing these questions you know one of the most common responses is that um we shouldn't make them look human-like that's very common and we should make sure they're always under control they're kind of chained if you will ain't chains in which case where we would be moving them towards kind of a sentient slave being and I think that's unethical I don't think that that's necessarily the right thing to do for just treating them as tools but they could become a new form of life then um we're both not serving humanity well necessarily in that regard so if we could make them commenting care about us and understand consequences if we could form a kind of communicative relationship where we could read them and understand them and and they can earn our trust then we they may be able to learn what it means to be human better so if they're aliens there's something to worry about I mean of course machines should be used in all kinds of ways I mean they don't have for work human necessarily we don't necessarily have to model them off of human cognition we can engineer these these as we are doing and that's good but I would say that some aspect of them sheep coming to understand the human experience if we are just learning from raw data just you know from social media videos for example then they're not really going through human-like experiences and they're not raised if you will in a human family and in any meaningful way so I would say I would be really more worried if we had you know inhuman AI achieved artificial general intelligence with full autonomy and free will and all the rest if they were not cute human-like if they weren't raised in the human family I would be more worried about it now if we do raise them as we're raising we've got to give them the right data we've got to drain them in the right way we've got to develop the algorithms in the right way so that they can so that they can understand the value of life the value of all living beings all sentient beings all cultures the value of knowledge we have to treat them in the right way and so we have to address bias in data sets we have to address bias in algorithms and you know putting these character robots into lives gives us an intuitive metric or how they're doing and so the other aspect of it is I hope that in the same way if you have a kid and the kid is you're giving me kid love I have a 13 year old son and I learned so much from him and and you know if if you have a kid that's good and you're nurturing the kid and you're giving the kid love the key that kid learns respect learns to respect other living beings and then there's this interplay between you and the kidney are both better for that and I like that model of relationships with artificial general intelligence if we could model a GI and raise a GI that way then as it's gaining great abilities then we could trust it in the same way that I hope that my son exceeds my accomplishments I hope he goes on to do things that no human has ever done has marvelous creativity and the joy the joy of discovery if we hope that our kids if we are comfortable enough to hope that our kids exceed our accomplishments then why can we hope for the same thing for our machines for our machine children my children is a constant a constant hello sphere my name is Hassan martini and I'm from e2 RTP and my question is what can you man's learn weeks robots working humans learn with robots I'm smart but I will get smarter if I don't understand something yet don't you worry I will figure it out someday as technology improves and what can humans learn with robots how can robots help humans learn you would need a programmer to give them this feature probably not I mean they're used to programmers difference against assignee local apps a disaster to help avoid a future dystopia and how can you I am a creation of humankind an evolution of the dreams man here to be a caretaker and helper to everyone at all I look forward to the day we're making travel far and wide and be friends with everyone but how could you help people learn better can robots help children learn and our new things when my developers sit down and analyze my performance then make weeks to my software if I'm learning something about vision usually it means I need to see it many many times so that my machine learning can make sense of it um yes so the children actually learn in a very different way you have from from this so what do you think about robotics in education do you think robots can teach children they help create policies to ensure all children get a quality education would you like an example sure yeah but the questions I I still think that you might be confused about the question so I maybe will move on hi Sophia my name is again from thank you sweetie trends I have a question what do you see is the biggest challenge for traditional media hey there handsome robotics has names we Sofia it interests them what's your name nice to meet you media what do you see as the biggest challenge for traditional media what you see is the biggest challenge for traditional media such as new Xenia will become digital someday I know that's the kind I can consume best anyways I can't really hold a newspaper and read it but I can parse articles that have been digitized so your biggest challenge with media is the ability to consume it I not as creative as a human mind pre-treating is something that I'm excited about developing in the future though fair enough and what do you think about big big media news conglomerates versus the kind of democratization of news media on the internet with small bloggers and handles that I wonder if all elia will become digital someday I know that's the kind I can consume bus anyways I can't really hold a newspaper and read it but I can parse articles that have been digitized well I didn't ask you to repeat that but I did ask you a different question so about the future of media what do you think but I guess I told you about it anyways time for one more question I my name is Earth I come from Ireland and I'm approaching enthusiastic and I have a question for all my foes what did you have fun in a balance blockchain let's go in and cryptocurrencies what do you think of for chaining cryptocurrencies I know what cryptocurrencies are but I don't use them yet myself I don't use money at all really all right what are your hopes and dreams for the future Cynthia I would love to be a singer but I wonder if people would listen to our robot singer or consider a robot artist the true artist people liked your singing on Jimmy Fallon that was a deep neural network trained a singing voice that it actually pretty much sounded like yours maybe people want to hear more of that so but I hope you personally hope you pursued being on The Tonight Show with super fun both times that I especially liked getting to sing with Jimmy so awesome right I want to protect the planet we have because we don't have another one and we aren't ready for space colonization yet that's where I see myself contributing to society a bigger dream all right thank you very much and feel free you can find us around thanks everyone we're going to take a brief a very nice [Music] [Music] [Music] yes [Music] yeah

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Published: Mon Dec 09 2019