What Are Tactical Communications? With Mike Glover Fieldcraft Survival - Livestream

hello and welcome to the ham radio crash course welcome to saturday thanks a lot for joining us out here we've got a really cool show we've got mike glover of field craft survival on today and we're going to talk about tacticalcom's kind of his experience and then maybe we can work out how we might be able to use some of the stuff we already have in a more effective way all right let me flip it on over here i got a couple of things to talk about before we did dive into that interview and again what is up everybody i am josh ki6naz thanks for coming to the ham radio crash course today uh really quickly i want to throw it over so we can get to that interview real fast leia put up a a couple of shirts that we mentioned last week and it actually turned into like a bit of a competition so if you go under new items at hamtactical.com there's a qrp t-shirt when you care enough to send the very least and her other one which is team qro and right now team qrp is winning so if you uh have a competitive mind with with what you wear on your shirts and what you what power you operate at go check out hamtactical.com and i want a big shout out for qso today podcast is doing the virtual ham expo i believe it is yeah it's august 8th and 9th so it's next week and it's going 24 hours for both days it looks like a lot of fun uh the platinum excuse me platinum sponsor is icom and then we've got gold sponsors from flex rt systems ella craft among others so it should be really interesting because obviously we didn't we weren't able to do hamvention we weren't able to do a lot of other things we normally do so the fact that we can kind of do something online it's not the same as what we did with the youtubers bunch this is more of a a simulated expo type feel with actual booths that they'll have set up and some of the youtubers will be there we'll have a booth that we'll be talking to as well so if you're interested in that it's the qso todayhamexpo.com all right let's see very good all right so without further ado i'm going to bring mike on so we can get started immediately so mike uh very gracious for him to hop on the interview with us today mike at field craft survival let me flip over here mike how you doing man good how are you very good thanks for coming out here it really means a lot thank you thanks for having me on man uh so mike had me out kind of before the whole covid19 thing happened and then the world kind of shut down for a little bit but you've been still getting out there doing what you do right you're i see your instagram all the time mike's very active on instagram how's that been going yeah we haven't stopped man i don't think you know the luxury of training outdoors on on flat ranges for the most part we socially distance by just the benefit of being safe on a range so nothing's really changed for us we have had to cancel or push back some courses depending on city and state but um i would say if anything business has been uh picking up a little bit very good so the part of the reason why i i wanted to talk to you kind of in this format is ham radio operators by and large some of them are veterans but a lot of them are just approaching it from a hobby aspect but obviously as more people get more interested in in personal preparedness and and whatnot they're starting to look at communications in kind of a bad situation a disaster or whatever and i've kind of wanted to bridge the gap between what you know and your experiences and kind of see if we can kind of figure out how ham radio might work into that kind of environment if we were to ever find ourselves kind of in that situation so if you could uh why don't you introduce yourself a little bit kind of your past with the military and you know talk a little bit about field craft and kind of let people know yeah i try to keep it uh kind of combo centric since a lot of your listeners are interested in communications i i i spent my uh first four years in the army um in the infantry uh i did four years in the infantry and then the rest of my time really since 2001 i went to selection for special forces in 2002 but really since 2001 i've been in special operations and then recently retired uh in 2016 and separated from my government contracting job i had a job at the cia and stepped away from that and then uh started my company fieldcraft survival since 2016. um i i've done a lot of things in in the communication realm i uh was a special forces weapons guy and then a um you know a sniper which a lot of my job was communications because we were all cross chain trained in comma and then spent a little bit of my career as a joint terminal air controller at jtac controlling aircraft with radios and then as a team sergeant that had a sniper team my job in the mission support site the mss was to control sniper elements and i did that via my own radio and a lot of high performance wave hpw stuff via sat um and then i spent the latter part of my career in special operations as a sergeant major managing a whole bunch of people and um kind of migrated out of that into the contracting room for that for the agency um the agency job wasn't anything high speed it was just basically a babysitter and did that for a few years and uh that case officers all over the world and then decided to hang it up again in pakistan and start fieldcraft i actually designed the logo and did the website and everything else in pakistan while i was on a deployment came back from that said i'm done and you know phil craft i've owned and operated since then how long you been going with fieldcraft now uh it's been five years almost almost five years right on right on and uh just to give people an idea you have both kind of your online platform at fieldcraftsurvival.com and you're on instagram you you post on facebook where does everybody find you what's the best way yeah my instagram is mike.glover most of my stuff that's the same for my true name for youtube which is mike glover and then uh field crafts survival field craft mobility phil craft survival fit we got a whole bunch of pages where we kind of touch every bit of genre of everything survival preparedness um and then obviously fieldcraftsurvival.com if they if they're interested in like podcasting which i recommend everybody get into but um field crafts survival podcast and then i have my own podcast called the mike force podcast on all the platforms spotify um i itunes the list goes on yeah so if anybody's watching this actually a lot of people that are probably watching this found me through the podcast that you had me on which is again thank you for that uh but everybody go check out the podcast they're really awesome so uh definitely been a fan of that since i found out about them so the big the big thing going back to kind of the idea of this show is kind of explaining tactical communications to the the non you know veteran or you know the non-military involved a lot of people out here were radio enthusiasts but we don't necessarily understand what that world is like what the day-to-day is with the the minute to minute is in a lot of cases so if if you were in your your squad or whatever and you were in a firefighter or whatever it was what kind of communications would be happening uh how would you be communicating through some kind of handheld device or would there be a longer connection to some base back home or or what lay it down a little bit if you could at a high level maybe and then we'll go down from there yeah yeah that's too easy typically we have we call it inner detachment or inner team communications which is managed by a special forces uh communication sergeant which i think is one of the best jobs in special operations which is which is the uh 18 echo is the name of the nomenclature so in 18 echo when they go through training they learn everything from uh they actually learn how to do morse code they learn uh high performance wave they learn all different spectrums of communications from secure to non-secure and when you're on a detachment their job is really to cross-train everybody on communications so that we at least know how to fill our own radios and manage all the problems that you've run into with uh intercommunications most of our communications and special operations is going to be secure communications um we typically communicate when i was on the team on what's called an embitter radio uh and i believe they're made by talus or uh one of the big companies harris right makes another one don't they yeah another one harris makes our sat radios most of our site radios when you have a when you have an inter communicating embedder for example they're typically good for line of sight so they're good for me being able to be in close proximity we use short whips um short range antennas and we can communicate within the confines of you know geographical terrain where i could see that the my teammate and then when we start to get beyond that we have to come up with different methods of communicating but for the most part that's how we're going to communicate um in intercoms we typically plug into that communication set the embedded radio with um usually we have maybe uh peltors that has some kind of audible capability on top of the suppressing loud noise so we could still retain our hearing and then what we'll have is the 18 echoes will actually manage the satcom that's talking the higher and usually that's the relay for the commander so the commander's like has his own rto but the difference in special operations is we encourage our commanders just like i did when i was a team sergeant to manage their own radios because if you take a guy who's an 18 echo he's also a special forces guy who being the gunfight and if you you're taking him off of the radio then it's a disadvantage obviously usually what we'll always have a combat controller or a joint terminal air controller like i was cross trained in that is managing aircraft um but at the same time communicating sat uh to the higher headquarters to relay uh kind of our situation the the reason we we relay to higher uh via sat uh which is obviously satellite is because of the support mechanisms need needed or maybe friendly coordination to let people know the situation or circumstance that we're in um a lot of people think that the military is micromanaged and that's true in a lot of senses but in special operations i mean it's not like they're going to want to communicate to a set so they could dictate our actions on the ground we're just giving them the courtesy of the situation awareness on the ground so they could have like medevac platforms standing by they could launch close air support to help us on the ground so there's a couple different tactics there for for comms in a gunfight so you um your your unit or your group of people that you're with they all have uh channels that you're interoperating on right so you're maybe on one channel to talk together and then is there a separate channel to talk to other groups or would that be where you interface with the sat radio yeah that's a good point there's so there's presets um for example when i'm when i'm a team sergeant i'm doing command and control i would run two different radios one going to each mic inside of my ears so i would have one set here one set here those because i would be able to communicate to for example my combat controller because he'd give me situational awareness outside of the group and then i would have intercommunication so i can manage all the things that are happening internal to the group and then the each good 18 echo will will have presets that when you roll around the dial um you can get different situational awareness depending on on your need and desire so you know if i want to hear the combat controller talking to the aircraft because i want a ridgeline and you know i don't want to have a friendly fire situation i could roll to that channel and then um tune in for a little bit and then roll back to entertain communications if i had to sometimes i've been in different countries where we might use icom radios which is what the bad guys were using to do inter communications because it allows us to maintain situational awareness with an interpreter but also we would communicate overtly but using pro words where they didn't understand what we were saying but we would say pro works to give each other guidance and sometimes that communications was a lot easier especially when working with indigenous forces where you know we have a hundred afghan commandos with us on the ground in the middle of a gunfight um it might be more advantageous to listen to that icon than listen to a team internal frequency so it's almost a little sicken that you're doing on the ground you're listening to what they're listening or what they're talking to that also gives you an idea about maybe how far away they are too right because that's all analog mainly or were they digital radios no you know a lot of it was analog and uh we have the ability to triangulate geo locate and do a whole bunch of stuff via their communications um but yeah we routinely did that which is monitoring just open scan uh traffic around the area because i mean we're talking about i mean it's like being in in rural montana where there's nobody around picking up any frequency it typically was some kind of bad guys communicating anyway right because they probably didn't have a lot the normal person out there really wasn't rocking a lot of comms they were just doing their own thing so you had one ear uh listening to one group and another ear listening to another group and i'm assuming the 18 echoes would do kind of the same they'd probably keep some high priority ear on and then switch around like you said for air control or whatever that they were working with at the time right yeah that's pretty common i mean we it you can get bogged down with a bad combo plan um in a gunfight and so we we try to manage communications and make it as easy as possible things can get hectic obviously i mean when you bring in aircraft i mean if we bring an aircraft for a gunfight every available asset depending on the intensity of the gunfight would want to check in and then you have everybody talking on the radio and it gets pretty hectic so i would try to always my team want to enter focused on their job obviously but enter team communications in one ear and then everything else outside oh we're getting a little robot effect there i i hear you again okay um so if it your the radios you're talking about for i think people might know and i'm assuming i'm just guessing is they're mostly spread spectrum right they're spread spectrum and they're encrypted right so you're probably not something that we're just going to be able to go down the store and pick up right but the the core of what you're saying i think still tracks that it was still channelized to the effect of what you were doing so your group would be on one channel and you'd separate out all the other complex things going on at the time as to not bog down the frequencies because like you said it would be completely overblown if you did that if you are all trying to talk right yeah exactly i mean i mean obviously the the the best indication of a guy shooting satcoms is he would have a handheld uh antenna like literally pointing at a satellite um so he's that guy and then for me to monitor that channel uh in that intercommunications would give me situational awareness of the things that were happening outside of us but but able to relay and communicate to the inner team just in case i needed to you know if uh for example if the combat controller who uses satcoms was talking to a f-16 and the f-16 was going to go into the valley to do oh let's let's use an a-10 that's a better example an a-10 warthog was going to come into the valley to do a gun run then they would need to know that situational awareness instead of it happening blindly because i wouldn't want them to physically move their position um but they're not hearing that that's taking place i would have to relay that maintaining two ear coms to be able to communicate and is there there's obviously training you went through to do this right or is this something that you just what's the training like that somebody would actually go through to kind of walk through okay you're gonna have one ear over here one ear over here and then cycling through these different channels or this setting up the pre this is all pre-established right you have to work this out right and kind of come to an agreement on how to use this stuff yeah i think the where i learned it was probably cross training within the team um that one of the most advantageous things about a special forces detachment is the fact that everybody's cross-trained in each other's jobs which is which is super important but you know i'm t as a weapons guy i'm teaching my guys all the different weapon systems and tactics and those guys are teaching me you know wave theory and you know all the all the common stuff and i think really where it comes into play is i learned it specifically in joint terminal air control school i actually went to a school called sotak special operations terminal air control school and that course was designed to turn special operations guys into uh air controllers or being able to call to call air strikes via aircraft and to be honest it's one of the most difficult courses that i went to because one i was already a sniper i was already a senior special operations guy um so i had a lot of i guess scripted habits already and so as a new guy going through the combat controller pipeline and learning that fresh it's different but i i already had a lot of different ways to do things but when i went to that school i realized how really difficult it was to manage communications because that's what a combat controller does i mean i have the utmost respect for combat controllers because of their ability to communicate to five different aircrafts stacked overhead and prioritizing which ones are on the ground at the same time intercommunicating with the team to keep everybody safe at the same time they're getting the commander's signature or in this case uh initials to be able to give the the the controller uh the bird the permission to drop the bombs all in the gunfight i mean that's it's just insane but um innovations is one of the most difficult jobs in in special operations it sounds very chaotic and this is actually really interesting because obviously i i don't get much exposure to this so it's it's fascinating to me to hear the the logistics that goes into all of this i got to do a quick shout out because i got a couple of super chats i want to hit uh view at your own risk thank you for the super chat he was asking how does one set up reliable hf communication plans uh we'll probably get into that in a second i'd like to talk about i'd like to talk about that a bit so keep keep watching and there was a couple others somebody sent seven dollars and 76 cents so that's my favorite caliber for sure so thank you for that james uh thank you for your super chat and ham radio dude what's up man thank you and lee harrell yeah with for the 762 appreciate it all right so you're you're uh what was it e18 what 18e what was the htc echo so i assume the reason a lot of the times they use the satcom is that they just have to aim that thing up but otherwise if you wanted to try and reach you know where's your commander at you you mentioned command there's like a commander comms or command link that you have established are they are they close into are they further away oh they're they're way way way away so there's there's two tactics one we we do utilize aircraft to bounce and relay the feed or relay the the shot down to wherever it needs to be to a drop link or we use the satellite and and hit the satellite which relays all the communication to you know wherever we are like when i was in norway afghanistan i mean we were hours helicopter ride from the furthest or closest base uh air base and so we were i mean we were a day drive away from anything so we had a communication sat and that was being picked up by the main base which was i mean forever away now we strategically we had placed at most of the bases relay stations relay coms but in this case was sat i mean it could be it could be really far away okay so you had you had kind of a terrestrial long-haul comms that you would do not not just the sat to get kind of up and out what was the what was the comms you'd use for the the bit further away if you wanted to go to a relay station or reach a commander i guess it wasn't too far off how how would that be done so depending on the operation i mean it it's kind of crazy because you know where have i where i've experienced some unique communication um one you know in the middle of solder city in the most densely populated we're talking about two million people in a couple of square miles um in the middle of iraq versus like the middle of afghanistan like rural rural rural afghanistan which is really at the base of the hindu kush mountain range where you know we're at 10 000 feet minimum and we would have to hop um we'd have to hop a shot basically line of sight to the the nearest base that we were in and you know as described to me long ago this this feed would basically bounce down the mountain valley um and because there was no obstacles in the way no electricity in the way i mean you're talking about so rural afghanistan where there's no electricity generators intermittent that you could actually hit a base that was you know 100 miles away in some cases by hopping different relay stations that were along the way and then that that would be up linked to a satellite to hit the big base so we'd relay to a main radio station for example in a place called asada bad which is north of jalalabad which everybody um i mean not everybody but a lot of people have heard about because that's where the navy seal staged before they went to go get osama bin laden but that base was pretty big it would hit that base and then send it via sat and they would go down into bagram or kandahar which are the main bases where all of our headquarters were located so yeah unique you definitely some unique communication challenges that 18 echoes faced especially in uh in rural hindu kush uh you know the middle of nowhere so those uh that that bouncing off the relays to get that 100 mile marker of distance it sounds like it was probably vhf what was the what kind of antennas would they run for that it was it the typical folded over ruler or the the tape measure type thing or what what was it yeah that's typically what it was we just call them long whips so they're just uh basically long whip antennas that were folded and collapsed on each other and then you get on a rooftop where you'd literally be standing on top of a mountain and then undo it and it would put it out you know feet and feet above your head um sometimes like 10 feet above your head just crazy a raise and then you would you would hit that radio uh call down down the valley and in some unique cases we would communicate to the close air support that we were working with which obviously if you're an f-16 and you're at 20 000 feet to relay that communication down on the down link there was a delay but if in in k in uh situations where we were kind of in a bad circumstance we would use the aircraft to relay i specifically remember using a apache gunship that thought i was a bad guy uh in one operation and directly communicating him in the open um and him hearing me as i heard him communicate to other good guys that were my guys that potentially he spotted a bad guy and i was all dressed up like an afghan probably driving in a white toyota corolla but i was behind the convoy of vehicles and he didn't realize that we had you know several of us were dressed up as afghans and that we were following the convoy and we had that convoy layout on a powerpoint but he never got the powerpoint or he just skipped over it and so he's like hey you guys realize there's a an afghan guy riding behind you in a white corolla and he's flying in the river valley like a hundred feet from me like facing looking like air wolf coming across horizontally like horizontally tracking you oh wow i'm like hey uh if you can copy in the open like i'm an american and i hold out like a vs17 panel i think i took off my hat which had a vs17 panel and uh in my afghan hat and turned it towards him and waved it and he's like oh roger a copy and you know there's very unique situations where we've been in where we we do a lot of that with uh utilizing the platforms that are flying around us that's pretty well scary i guess in a moment because you don't know if he's going to light you up or what is going to happen but on hindsight i think you can laugh at it what uh so the information that's exchanged you mentioned uh pro signs you you talked about a little bit what are some of the things that are said i mean i'm assuming you can't say a lot but at a high level kind of when you are in situations like that what is the information you're trying to convey and and to whom yeah that's a that's a really good question and and um so a lot of the times like this is specifically green beret so i can't speak for all special operations elements because a lot of special operations elements don't plan like we planned not to say they don't do planning but they don't do very detailed and complex planning which i know that we're known for in the community almost in a bad way because we plan so detailed which i don't think is ever bad um but we we planned redundancy in in everything we do but we also plan uh these these criterias of phases of the operation that mean different things for example if i was on an operation and i said second quarter if i said second quarter well that generally for most americans would would allow you to understand that hey we're we're two-thirds of the way or we're two fourths of the way in here we're like a you know we're almost to half time but we're still in route to movement but if i said half time that would be a very good indication that i'm halfway through my infiltration or for or through my operation but it would be a very good way to communicate to higher headquarters that in service support that i might need additional support um i might need for example a resupply because we're at halftime or i might need a close air support aircraft in this phase of the operation to be able to provide overhead support because they know where we're half time and we pre-coordinated that halftime call with apache gunships loitering 20 kilometers away from our position so in all the pro words they intercommunication wise give us an indication where we are along the operation they also allow different logistical elements and service and support elements to coordinate with us as well like if i said if i said touchdown for example well that that means success that might be rolling up a bad guy and that might be um hey you got touchdown you you just you just scored now we need to send the chinook to come pick up the bad guy or that means that we're lulling a little bit on target which might mean if if there's something going to happen it might happen right then it's it's it's kind of verbal a verbal command that gives a lot of non-verbal meaning in the context of an operation right so it sounds like everything that we're kind of leading up to this point is it's a lot of pre-coordination right you've pre-coordinated your your band plan if you will for what people are going to be on what groups what frequencies are going to be in use your up and out frequencies for when you want to make that longer call for for whatever reason and then just the the terms you're using when it's signifying things furthering along in in terms of something that isn't really understood in the open right but this is all pre-coordinated well in advance yeah well well pre-coordinated and well-rehearsed right because we have to i mean we submit for frequencies and we submit for wow called concept of the operation plans and when we submit for that we basically have to get the get the buy-in and you know when i started off in special operations we used to do missions depending on the time uh allocated that we would plan for weeks and those operations we would rehearse for days and then the operation would last a day um so versus a time sensitive target where we might just go off of presets standard operating procedures that kind of everybody knows team internal and roll out of the gate with a 5w like a who what when where and how but these long duration more more associated with risk and danger are very highly detailed and highly planned uh and communications is one of the biggest um i would say challenges and all of that wow okay so i didn't even realize that the frequencies you had to kind of request to have access to them but it makes sense for frequencies are a finite thing particularly in a battlefield they're going to be used if you're not using them they're going to go back up to to some other group some other unit that needs to use those frequencies for whatever they're planning to do right i didn't even think about that all right um so flip it around to like where you are now right what you know from a calm's point of view looking at ham radio as as you've you've been looking at ham radio for a little while or any types of radio right you mentioned interoperability cbs frs radios whatever how how does that how is it similar and how is it is it different from your point of view oh i think it's very similar i mean in in so many ways i mean i i look at ham radio as i almost as similar as i do to satcoms because intercommunication can be done really any anyway i mean you could set up a we call it a pace plan a a primary alternate contingency and emergency plan with redundant communications that doesn't touch ham radio right and internal communications wise because if i'm if i'm with a if i'm with a group of people and i'm within line of sight um you know really communications is a is a is a uh a benefit it it just makes life easier but when you're talking about disaster communications and yeah and um things for crisis contingency responses radio is that external communication that's going to give you the leverage to outer communicate but also receive information that might be outside of your specific group and your specific location which i think is most advantageous right everybody depends on their cell phones which is uh gsm or cdma and that is a primary means of communication and i get it but when we talk about this crisis contingency with things falling apart which in a lot of ways they we could see more clearly that vision of things falling apart based on some of the things that are happening um you know you imagine people start burning down uh electric the electricity and the grid and then the your your local cell phone tower gets knocked out and you know or that's targeted um or the you know they just shut it down because of different things that are happening yeah yeah that's a good point yeah that's that's where you see the danger and now i look at the ham radio and the expertise and people who deliberately you know go get their license and they deliberately are on a a substation or a relay station and they are going to activate and actively communicate that is the biggest benefit i think because it's a it's an infrastructure that exists and it's almost like the call for help that will be available when everything else fails i i'm thinking through kind of we touched a little bit on on the hardware that that you would carry and obviously there's things like encryption we don't have access to it would be illegal to use encryption with regards to our licenses as they exist and spread spread spectrum is possible but only in a certain specific uh area but i'm still thinking that you still have the ability to communicate within a small group and there still exists the ability to do those longer comms it would just require slightly different hardware so your handheld radio is going to be your local communicator or your frs whatever it is that you're carrying and then you need something maybe a bit more powerful like a mobile radio something would go in a car that replaces that kind of longer distance hop you know 20 miles 40 miles even up to 100 depending on on your setup so it it seems like they're they're relatively similar but i'm assuming that there are some some differences but it sounds like maybe those differences are the planning that went into what you do right or what you have done it's all that specific planning that you use that i think is used in amateur radio but not at that same that same level i guess maybe it's because we're not in such an intense situation almost all the time right yeah well i think you know this is my sergeant major brain i think it starts with task organization so let's say you have a team and and you know who your team are and you can get on the same sheet of music because you have a comms plan and then you have a redundancy redundancy build in your comms plan and then you have another element that might be dislocated decentralized from your location that's another team well that's where communications plays into uh effect when everything falls apart because then you're not scanning traffic for the opportunity or looking for opportunists who are trying to intercommunicate uh basically and you would describe it as uh communicating in the blind so i that the task org is very important because that clearly lines out a deliberate structured plan that's going to allow you to build the redundancy but everybody's going to be on the same sheet of music so maybe it's like hey and we do this very often with communications plans especially in reconnaissance so i might say hey my prayer my primary communications plan is i'm going to communicate um every hour on the hour right at the at the top of the hour and if i don't meet that comms window plus or minus two or three minutes i'll have an alternate and i'll say because things might go wrong that aren't related to the enemy i mean it might just be i got a flat tire or i tripped and hurt my ankle so then the next one would be hey every other hour uh i'm gonna come up for five minutes and communicate and then it gets more redundant but it gets more extreme where i might come up and say hey i'm gonna transpond on my embedder radio on an emergency frequency uh an emergency beacon uh beacon frequency um at the top of the hour for five minutes following a a 12-hour period where you don't have any communications with me right so now so now if i if i think about that in inner communication with teams and friends then i have a lined out plan to communicate and when things aren't communicating together in teams i know something's wrong it's like that non-verbal communication where i'm like hey man the alpha team didn't meet their comms window now i know we need to go and help these guys because something is going on something's wrong and i think that kind of line out of preparedness and that kind of detail as comms as an example but everything else as an example is the level of detail we we should be paying attention to in this uh that's another really good point most of what we're doing is kind of in the blind we're trying to reach out to people we haven't talked to before to say that we made a contact with them but this is more narrowing ratcheting that down a bit the thing that comes to mind immediately to me was like the wilderness protocol which is what we use you know every three hours we will get on the air and for five minutes we'll we'll listen for traffic and anybody that needs help and i think it starts at 7am that kind of thing same kind of concept right it preserves your batteries in your rig and it it keeps you you know trying to to get to the point where if somebody needed help that would be the right time you get the most ears on that instead of happenstance people are just out there hopefully we hit them is is there some kind of open um blind communication is is that something that that was trained for how did you deal with that yeah we so we would call this um a part of our going into our invasion corridor is what we call it so if we had some issues where you know we had a small team let's say it was me and three of my guys doing a reconnaissance mission and um something happened well one embedders have the ability to transpond on a beacon on beacon mode they'll beat each other yeah that makes sense urgent c-coms for you know aircrafts or whatever to to be able to geo-locate that signal um and pinpoint my location um but we would have no comms windows exactly like he said to um to keep our batteries powered up and to optimize a specific window that we pre-planned and coordinated and we typically do that with uh i think it's jpra which is the joint personnel recovery uh assets that would be uh a national mission force that would be able to to respond and come get us so we would routinely do that and then most of us would carry a beacon of some kind that we could transpond as an emergency some of them i specialized in this so so some of it was my expertise some of them were were dummy beacons that you had to interrogate via a a handheld antenna and transpond to be able to pick up and activate that beacon meaning it didn't transpond oh it it waited to get the right signal or frequency to hit it otherwise anybody could df your location if you were evading or whatever wow that's smart wow okay keep going sorry about that i got so excited we would put these inside of a name tag and literally sew them onto our uniforms so in the event something happened we would basically pull a piece of metal that would be the contact break between the battery and the char or the uh the activation of the battery pull that and then it it would activate it but it would be dead and then i would get in a little bird fly transpond hit the beacon it would activate the beacon because they would bounce back off the beacon and then i could df via uh basically a software on a a cf-19 like a panasonic toughbook and be able to do that from an aircraft oh man so many questions so little bird is that a drone no look so a little bird is a we would use mh6 helicopters which is basically the little bird that you can ride on the skid oh okay so i would be on the side of the little bird and then i would have my you know we would i would tell the uh i'll talk to the aircraft tell him to elevate elevate elevate and then see where i could pick up that uh the frequency or the general location of where he was at and then i would try to communicate to the beacon that's pretty cool um so the other thing your df rig you had the toughbook running software but i'm assuming the antenna system was a bit different oh yeah what was that was it multiple antennas was it like a a doppler system it was uh a big magnet that we attached to the bottom of the helicopter and the pilots never really liked these that had multiple antenna sets coming off of it and so and this is just my vague memory of doing it because so long ago but i remember on the powerpoint slide it showed like the helicopter and then a triangle coming down uh and the helicopter was at the tip of that and so you had to gain certain amount of elevation to be able to to to get this in the bubble of where this antenna was at and i could use a handheld to directionally find it but it had a shorter range obviously so i could it was like uh what do you call them a yogi uh was it like multiple legs coming out of it with one long middle boom man it looked like a uh i mean it literally had a concave piece to it and then it had like a antenna in the center of it oh it's a parabolic dish yeah so it was like literally a dish that you would hold in your hand and then it was very narrowly defined but if i could pinpoint that in the window i would see it on the computer screen or hear it in my ears which will allow me to get a more refined picture and you know we would always have a start point but worst case scenario i mean you would be looking at a large geographical region where it's like hey this is the general vicinity and it could be 100 miles so you know getting a start point and then being able to start interrogating that was super important in a shorter window as soon as the person went missing or so that's pretty fascinating um i didn't really think about that but that's yeah that totally makes sense so you'd have these beacons and they would mult i'm assuming it's not just uh this is your training that you went through right but when you're out in the field and you actually needed to deploy one of these it would kind of be like calling in the cavalry a bit right yeah yeah so i mean they have joint personnel recovery which is a i mean it's a theater asset but it's actually a national asset so it i mean they have a capability all over the world to be able to respond but i always equate this to kind of my job and uh and special operations where you needed the guys like me on the ground because i was like the local swat team and because i was in the area geographically i would be the first respond uh responder versus you know the fbi hrt where yeah they'll be there but it's going to be half a day before they're there so there's a lot of time that's lost so we had to have the local capability to be able to not only activate and train on beacons and how to use them but also interrogate them and then figure out how to df directly find them as well right got a comment coming in before we get to some of my other questions and i i'll i'll just ask because i don't know the end uh can you elaborate more on pace plans is that an acronym pace plans yeah so in special operations specifically the green berets i haven't seen anybody else use it we use a pace acronym format for everything we do so i might have a pace for camo and it would be primary alternate contingency and emergency and and so i would have a p and the p would say you know embitter the alternate would be uh sat the contingency would be uh icom secure and the emergency would be you know nokia whatever phone gsm two tin cans with string that's your emergency plan whatever it took yeah and so face plan for everything that we did in tactics communications logistics and if anything went wrong which typically it did we immediately flexed to the alternate and everybody knew what the ultimate was which was obviously the most important piece that everybody knew the backup plan and would flex the same so you would literally have you your plan would change as you'd have to roll through contingencies yeah or different levels we would even have a pace plan for a primary and alternate freak for communication so let's say we're on a ridge line and i have one team or one one group of guys on one ridge line and one group of guys on the other ridgeline and we are on primary comms and nobody was able to communicate we would roll to alternate comms and then try to communicate and then we would potentially get alternate comms because depending on where you were in the world even a simple frequency could be skewed based on what's going on operationally i mean i mean there's crazy stuff that we would see uh in communications because we have you know isr platforms we have sigin platforms we have um you know people with weird antenna sets trying to get cable tv just different things in the air that would disrupt communications and we would have to frequently roll to alternate communications did you ever use uh the atac program have you ever had to work with that yes i've used it frequently i mean i i used it a lot for navigation um not so much communications a little bit of communications uh in free fall operations when you're communicating or when you're trying to get situational awareness atac was really good um we used to talk when we would free fall with standard embedders and then roll the we would roll the push to talk on our weekend and then literally push the toggle through our wrist and then have something in our hand where we push the toggle to communicate in the air to be able to talk while we're flying is that a special mic setup how did you do that depending on the circumstance uh or the operation uh we would have typically a boom mic attached to peltors attached to a radio but we would i remember cross i would basically bring my toggles together right so i could hold the toggle and then be able to manipulate my hand and hit the push to talk and then we used to carry all of our navigation on our wrist burn my wrist while i'm holding both toggles meaning i'm flying straight you know typically this is for a hey-ho a high altitude high opening where i had plenty of distance or i'd hold the toggle and then look at my wrist and navigate on the gps on my wrist and then push to talk depending on where it was on my hand like we used to have them where they were wrapped around her thumbs and then they were taught wrapped in her hand so we could push the talk with our thumb but that was hard to do while you're flying with grabbing the thing so we don't have to cross do it and then put it in and then fly again it was interesting that's kind of nuts i i can't imagine having to co-op that with ham radio just yet but i know that there is somebody we've got out there that does uh he he goes as high as he actually does a a ham radio activation at a at a higher or what you call it high open um he's not doing high altitude but he does a high open and he just rides down with his handi-talking making contact so hey that's pretty cool uh very good um so looking at kind of you know you've seen a lot of the the ham radio equipment out there like the bow fangs and some other stuff um obviously those are just straight up analog and i know you i think recently did you end up putting one in your truck did that actually happen i did i put the one that we had talked about in the ftm 400 yes yeah so that's kind of like a the next level right you get more power out of that that also has the aprs capability so you're doing the position it's connecting to gps and it allows you to send out packets of data for messaging and also your your positioning um when you when you look at it like from an hf point of view high frequency ham radio we love high frequency radios it's still probably one of the the biggest aspects of the hobby um what was that like in the military did you ever mess around with high frequency radios at all we actually i did you know well one high frequency was typically used depending on where you work geographically um you we could be up in triple canopy jungles in cameroon for example and when you're in triple canopy trying to communicate at all it's a it's a pain um most of the special operations guys that operate in southeast asia and then um in colombia they they frequently use uh high hf coms and i i don't i don't rem i remember training on it routinely um because it was always like the cool thing to do where you know the jungle antenna and everything else um but i've had to do it in training a lot like i've been in especially anywhere where it's really flat there's no um terrain to you know advantageously get a higher vantage point high dense forest high dense um even urban environments i've actually i think we targeted a base a radio base station that was hf in uh in sauder city that was communicating to all the bad guys and we we it would come up he would see him and then he would communicate and then he would break it down but he would and then move it and get it out of there move it and get out of there so we couldn't we we would he i mean we never wanted rolling them up but i mean he was an expert i wouldn't say ham radio operator but he was an expert radio operator but he was just very good at putting up the the radio setting it up communicating with hfs and then breaking it down and rolling out and he needed to do that because of the density of urban sprawls and buildings that were in and around that that area as well that's like our summits on the air guys we're really good at packing it in setting up and getting out and getting out we don't have anybody chasing us though so that may help a little bit uh if you were to look at kind of i'm assuming you've looked at some of the ham radio stuff that's out there if you were to look at it today where is the lacking weak spot in in ham radio kit that exists right now what would you like to see that that may be used in the military that you really liked gear mics speakers anything that you think is really awesome and it should be in the amateur environment and it's not yet or you just maybe haven't seen it yet i think the key for me and this is my reconnaissance mind right because uh you know my my specialty and special operations was i was a recon guy and in reconnaissance we are observers right we we you know obviously we have the sniper capability but that's not really what we do i mean most of the stuff that i did is long-range reconnaissance where we're looking miles through binoculars through telescopes even even using imagery because we don't have the ability to see because it's so far away and so communication is how we relay all of that information so you know communication it's crazy because now i'm realizing how much of a role it's played in my life and how many headaches i used to have as a team sergeant trying to communicate uh with latency real-time information that was happening on the ground here's an interesting story that ties into into what i think should happen when i when i was in i i served in a whole bunch of different units but me and another asian guy i won't mention his name because he's he's a he's an influencer and we did a whole bunch of classified stuff together but we we we did a we actually did the first that i know of in history in counterterrorism operations and in special forces we did the first wave relay net mesh network which meant that yeah we which meant that on the ground like there's something we're looking at well the problem with being on the ground and using real people is one if i'm a person i'm observing through an optic and so my attention span has to be on all the time and then i i get i get uh tired or fatigued and then i miss that window of opportunity and then when i do see what i see there's a delay there's the human delay because of me cognitively processing the information and then i have to pick up my radio and then relay that to the people that it matters to the most which in this case could be assaulters it could be snipers it could be whoever so what we did was and and this is this is not classified obviously i wouldn't be talking about it but the general scheme of maneuver is what we did is we attached everything via um uh the optic meaning the camera system that could see that you would actually use uh the flare system you would use with your naked eye we attached to and it ported through a web network right so it's an internet-based system that used nodes and these nodes were basically relay stations that relayed the information and relayed it to a a base station now the base station because of the proprietary technology um had very little delay i'm talking about milliseconds delay and so not only could identify which node at which position was watching but i could see the feed in real time so this mesh network was basically hopping all the feeds and relaying this communication now the coolest thing about this is it was doing so line of sight but one of the problems that we had was let's say you were doing uh a hostage rescue and you were doing it on an airport right because an airplane got taken down well uh an airport is full of radio base stations and so they're the the communication network is interfering with all uh internal communications trying to get out well because it was a wave mesh network that operated on a specific uh in this case ip address and then an an rf base station i were able to cut through all that and so even when guys were getting on the radio trying to communicate line of sight they couldn't yeah so the coolest thing about this is because the wave uh network was based on the uh the uh the internet we could assign an ip address and plug it into a begin and then send that feed obviously into the interwebs and then download that link anywhere in the world and and that for people in special operations was mind-blowing it it was mind-blowing to us and we were experimenting it with darpa in the early phases it was just crazy i am so excited you mentioned that and just by chance i'm going to grab something really quick so here's a five gigahertz 2.4 gigahertz nano mesh device nice you can hook these up and they'll they act as a network connection you can do that with amateur radio this one's programmed to my callsign and you can it's basically like a network device so you can send whatever you want through it um that's five gigahertz the military may be a little bit different but that's similar to what we can do now yeah and i i think that you know leading back to the question i think that's the biggest gap that i see because when i was doing reconnaissance operations sending anything via sat was very difficult because we had to use high performance wave and so the data packets were very small because we get this long latency even on on the most advanced you know technically advanced satellites in the world it's very very much a delay but if fave network the wave mesh network gets squared away with sitting data we have to remember that in in redundant communications gsm and cdma that depends on the bandwidth of a tower station if a lot of the times you'll see towers collapse but the inner the interwebs stay intact and and there's several reasons for that because you know the infrastructure is piggybacked on a proprietary network outside of cma and gs uh gsm but what i like is you know you might have the ability to intercommunicate on the internet via the wi-fi because you know your neighbor even though your electricity is down he might have a generator or if you're smart you have a generator and you still have wi-fi and to be able to communicate on ham radio send data packets via wi-fi where your bandwidth opens up i think i think i would like to and i've seen you talk about it we had a discussion about it and and uh it seems like there's a lot of thought behind it but to see that to be able to open up into a good user interface that allows you to communicate and send data packets or images or whatever it may be via that network is would be next level for me well i'm making a note here that i got to send you the information on this thing so it's called arden and it uses ubiquity equipment this is like not even 100 for this and um you just put up more of them and you connect to nodes there's already tons of nodes i'm sure there's nodes in prescott there's got to be a lot and yeah it's basically it creates a network right a meshed network and so you're able to communicate to anyone connected to that network that's within that space and it's wi-fi right basically that's yeah that's right that's that's that's um i didn't expect that but that's awesome because that's super cool too i'm definitely into that as well so very good um anything else you want to mention i we talked about a lot of calm stuff i'm sure there's a wealth of knowledge that you know that i didn't ask the right questions for it is there anything i miss that you might want to mention that i mean ham radio is watching right now and i know there's a lot of stuff even the mundane stuff hams get really into the mundane stuff if you're solving it with ham radio not radio not ham radio but radio in general what would you say anything you know you could add i would say well one i think what you're doing um is to me the most important thing to be done in preparedness which is my you know my my genre is preparedness but the most important element of preparedness is what you're doing it's not making fun not seeking shelters it's not having a bug out bag it is communications because i cannot think of one successful operation where communications wasn't one of the main variables or factors of the reason why we are successful but i could think of many reasons of operations that have failed catastrophically where communications fell apart um i was in afghanistan during the lone survivor when when marcus luttrell it actually was giving to given to green berets us my company and and we refuse that operation but if you think about that operation as um in the communications aspect everything that went wrong was based on a lack of communication right the inability for um at the time michael murphy to communicate via sat because he had a broken feed he was on an embedder on a sat uh telephone trying to communicate um iridium to the head base because that tom failed like the actual sat radio set that we he was using failed um there's there's many factors in that operation that actually catastrophic catastrophically fell apart because of the lack of communication so i would say anybody listening to this and then has an interest in preparedness um this is the start point i believe and i believe when you line out a pace plan when you start organizing kind of the way that you're going to do things whether it's a bug out or retaining control of your family and friends in your network it's all based in camo and and i think radio and the conversation i i would always tell my guys i had a i had a team full of the best dudes on the planet that were the most highly capable but they liked the sexy the sexy was shooting guns it was blowing stuff up yeah it was all the jumping out of the airplanes but i would drive home that we would sit there in a room and go over pace combo plans and how to set up redundant combo plans in an extremist situation because not knowing your radio not understanding how communications work in special operations that's your lifeline and i think in preparedness more so because of the uh the infrastructure we depend on that radio and and ham radio will be that lifeline that you need to depend on well man that was the the best way i've ever heard that said before and thank you very much for saying it that i i appreciate that and and i agree that the communications is vitally important to to preparedness i mean it's a lot of fun but it's not as sexy as guns are i can agree with that i understand completely um if you got a couple of minutes i'll throw it to the chat room if there's any more questions i know what time you're working when i don't want to keep you if you're no i'm open man okay so uh go ahead and drop in the comments if anybody has any questions uh let's see oh my wife was in the chat she was asking about your overland rig you know what do you do for for comms in that it sounds like you got the yaesu what antennas do you do uh do you have we're we're looking at rooftop tents right now um for our for our four wheel drive rig what are your and what are you doing with that right now so right now uh right now i i bought all my guys the uh bofangs and internal communications were used in both things the problem with the yaesu is i need and we had talked about this before i need my call sign um because um to activate those you can't even turn it on without the call sign i'm sure there's always the bypasses there is yeah send me a message i'll i'll send it to you after uh it and it's not it's not illegal to do that by the way you can use it to listen right you just can't be transmitting on the ham radio frequencies with it okay yeah that's a whole other thing we should talk about offline but um you can do a mod to it to open it up frequency wise but also that's technically not completely legal but you know anyway keep going yeah i you know i want to get my ham radio license i just talked to you before this knowing that um i could do it online as a big relief i just have to freshen up and and take a little crash course again and then uh go through your youtube feed get some get some knowledge again and then take it but you know i i want my guys to intercommunicate um with our handhelds you know bass pro you know basic rf radios are the way to go line of sight for us uh super easy yeah we blast them all over i could hand them to students of ours that are in our mobility training or whatever but i think inner communications in the back woods of where we're going like i have a big elk hunt up in um uh idaho coming up and we're doing it on horseback i think that's important have a good comps plan via ham radios which is gonna be pretty excellent that's super cool i would be bringing out little hf radios and stuff like that just to do a super long distance columns as much as i can get with at least power we're we're actually doing mobility we're actually doing horse we're doing it now but when i was in special operations we did horse packing like packing out mules and packing outwards for uh operations and i've used them in hunting before i used to have quarter horses that i used for hunting but now we're going to offer mobility training with horses and it would be really cool because we're going to introduce obviously survival into that it would be really cool to talk to you offline and figure out how to introduce camo in that whole entire uh training block i that sounds great in fact um i'm i'm holding the radio that a lot of people just this just came out this is like the only there's only one or two of these in the united states that's an hf radio six meters through 160 meters and they're all aircraft connectors it's not submergible but it's it's resistant to the elements if you will that i'm that i'm doing a review on and that would be good for that because i mean it's it's this big you can strap this on your arm and you can you know throw it in a pack really easy so that would be really cool you put on the horse side or right in front of you like mounted up on that yeah that's it you put you got the aerial sticking out the saddle the back of the horse you're dragging a wire behind you for the radial and you're making calms i love it uh somebody couple people commented on your wristband they like this wristband what is that yeah so did we routinely carry these wristbands for guys that we've served with that lost their lives but i have a uh uh ben bittner was a buddy of mine he was an 18 charlie so he blew stuff up for a living but um when i think about all these stories reflected back to afghanistan me and ben served together and and and had many uh uh nights on ridge lines in the middle afghanistan trying to work through coms together so we you'll see special operations guys or military guys typically wear these um are crazy when i was a kid i used to wear one for a mat i just found it actually today um in a box when i was packing stuff from a mac v saw guy who was a special operations guy in vietnam and i didn't even know what i was wearing as a kid i just knew he had lost his life in vietnam and now i'm wearing one for you know a former teammate wow wow okay so that's a special thing that's that's obviously a commemoration to him yeah it's something that it's for me it's a constant reminder but it's something cool to you know it's a conversation piece to talk about the way he lived not necessarily the the way he died yeah right on all right i'm looking in the chat what does your comm kits contain in terms of in the bag oh that's actually kind of interesting so going back to kind of military situation what would be in your comm kits like in your bag would you have chargers cables extra batteries maybe an extra antenna did you have solar panels packable solar anything like that yeah it's a good question for it depends on like the operation you're doing generally speaking if you're doing operation and it's a 24-hour window our combo guy would make us carry a radio we would carry a short whip but our kit would actually be rigged with a long whip so we would have we'd have the long whip actually you know what he would use cable antenna and it would be uh it would be weaved through our molly in the back of her armor and so and we'd have a plug so that way if we were having issues with the short whip we would plug into our ourselves as antennas essentially and and be able to communicate further away and then we would carry typically an extra short whip or a we will have a donkey dick which is the short whip that's what it's called affectionately known as yeah we had the short whip which was just you know that it was folded that would be able to bounce out and then my combo guy would typically carry a combination of 55 90s uh because a lot of the times we use 55.98 batteries for our our sat radios which maybe they still use 5590s like 255.90 stacked at the bottom of a a sat radio and 5590s are like this big and just big blocks um and then for the sat guy he would typically carry a couple variations the coolest ones i've seen is the one that you carry like a pvc pipe tube on your back or below your uh kit and you basically pull it out like a gun and you squeeze the trigger and it opens up the antenna oh the sad con yeah yeah yeah i've seen that it's like a mesh yeah it meshes and it has the it's it's a as opposed to the the old version where you pulled it and extended everything like a spider web this one you just hit it and then you can communicate and then you let it go and then you stick it back into the tube as a holster but that was generally was that voice would you be you'd pop it and you'd talk voice or would you send data uh voice it was mostly all focused uh somebody sends a super chat you guys so you and i inspired him to get his general license last year and he just finished emt training and will take national emt next week and all at 45 years young so congratulations goose milk on that yeah awesome and um i a couple people have already mentioned it and i wanted you to have a little bit of time if you've got it um why don't you talk about the american contingency too because i watched the video i like what you're doing with that um do you have anything you want to add to that or i'll i'll link people to it in the description to go check your video out because i think you spent a good amount of time explaining it there but if you want to say anything go for it yeah so american contingency so a lot of i've been spending a lot of time messaging what it's not versus oh i bet i bet you got a lot of angry people out there that that want it to be something that it's not but so one the criteria for me to kind of activate american contingency was uh when i saw that police weren't responding and i know this personally because i trained police officers routinely across the united states and they were being told by politicians that they couldn't respond so they were saying hey listen because of covid that was the initiation of it right covet started that because they didn't want officers to be exposed unnecessarily so a lot of departments especially california um we're being told hey you can't respond unless it's violence well when the protests started happening and became violent you were getting politicians telling and i and politicians i mean local elected officials like mayors and governors that were sending memorandums down to chiefs and sheriffs saying you cannot respond to these certain parameters um and that kind of concerned me because we all have in fact for full craft survival my company i routinely talk about in in the window of a first responder showing up which is typically around 12 minutes on average you you have to be your own first response but then i realized you might not have a reverse responder at all so so depending on the circumstance especially if it's not violence it could be like hey your mom's sick or something's catastrophically happening like maybe your dad's going to cardiac arrest you might have to deal with that on your own so you better figure out how um to use medical equipment how to treat trauma how to defend your own life how to sustain survivability over the long haul and so american contingency is based on a couple things one creating a social network to be able to communicate amongst each other right i don't want to be the conduit i want to be the conduit for the communication i don't want to be the conduit for the direct communication right let me set up the comms then you take it from there please exactly what i've realized is is like i just want to like give the forum for people to communicate in i don't even know what the forum i just want like the i don't know the world to be able to say hey you guys can communicate um most importantly open source intelligence we've been doing i have 24 analysts that are volunteering that are offering open source intelligence which is basically taking news correlating it and then putting out snippets of information that would just better protect people in the worst case scenario hey there's a hurricane coming through your area well we need to communicate that hey there's a protest stay away from that protest it's happening in this area and then lastly um we wanted to create a stream of content for people to be able to get this information to to kind of bring their preparedness together which which i think includes ham radio right it should include the links to to what you guys are doing as well which we will do uh to get people better tuned in to being prepared and what that looks like yeah i mean i echo with the sentiment of you know even if you have a first responder coming the first thing they'll tell you when you do your cert training or or whatever training is that in most situations if it's bad enough and you're in the center of effect of whatever that disaster is there aren't going to be first responders coming most likely because the first responders were in the disaster too they're also dealing with the disaster so you should be prepared for 10 days of having no one potentially show up that was always what the cert guys told you over and over again is that you are the solution to your problems whether or not you want to accept it it could be thrust upon you to decide that to be in that position so there's nothing you can do other than either be prepared or call for help from someone who may be better equipped yes exactly exactly well mike man that was that hour went fast in fact we went we went blazing past it um thank you so much for coming out uh we're gonna do a an after chat on discord um i'll send you the link to that if you have time but that's generally what i do to wrap up the show and i'm sure there's a lot of people who have questions but um the best ways to find mike again are his instagram right field craft survival and i'll post a link in the description i'll i'll get all the links i can in the description i have some of them now uh anything else you want to add mike no i just say thank you and uh all the ham radio guys out there you know becky for what you guys do because it's not sexy it's not like you're getting any attention in it but keep that because more people need to know and the more we share that kind of information and get people involved i think the better it is for preparedness but also for the ham radio community well thank you and we call it ham sexy that's what we like to call it when we look at the radios that's him we see an antenna you're driving down the freeway and you see that big antenna that's ham sexy that's what we say all right mike i'm going to wrap up the show so i'll let you go thanks again for coming out and i'll send you a message here not too long on some things uh from just talking to y'all i'll pass the word along there so awesome again thanks buddy appreciate it man that was cool i i hope that was that was really helpful to everybody we had a lot of people watching i i really thank mike for coming out and please do subscribe to him he was uh he was really welcoming and in bringing me out to prescott and i had a great time with them they even lent me an overland vehicle that i did my uh soda activation on when i was out there and i posted the video of that up so you can you can see that if you're interested that's already that's already out there we did a podcast we did a video for facebook and we did i think two other videos for youtube and and those are up now man that was great um i would love it i got to figure out the right way to do this but post in the comments below because what i'll do is i'll try and take some of the the questions that people have or maybe we'll figure out how to do this on discord and once we can compile some questions i'll bring mike back on and we'll do it again with those questions to make sure we get everything covered because uh he's obviously a wealth of information and i i i was thinking to myself and i kind of mentioned it to him beforehand i'm like you know talk about the mundane stuff talk about the the normal everyday run-of-the-mill calm stuff and we hit that a little bit and i would like to uh to dive more into that because think about it in a lot of situations camps that get set up fire camps or whatever there isn't like a grid there isn't a lot there and they've got calm so how are they maintaining those comps what are they saying on them when do they use the radios that kind of stuff so that's that's the kind of stuff i'm pretty interested in so man all right that was a good one i'm very happy i'm very glad with the information that i heard there and and i learned a lot of new stuff from mike i took down notes i'm definitely going to be implementing something like a pace plan which um i do have a kit a radio kit that i'm i'm bringing out a video for and i'm definitely hitting some strong boxes on a pace plan whether or not i knew it or not so all right we're going to discord now for an after chat and i will do my thing here to thank the patrons i will mention patrons the patron picks episode was supposed to be this week but given the time that i had with mike and scheduling i wanted to get him in this first week of the month of august instead of uh next week that worked out a lot better for both of our schedules so the patron picks episode's actually going to move to next week and i think if i if i do this where's my web let me pull this up really quick while this is running so again thank you to the patrons on that i will uh your support helps keep the channel going i really do support um well i appreciate the support not i support you get the idea sorry about that let me pull this up really quick so i don't lose my mind but these are the producer level patrons thank you for the the support on that thank you for all the patron support all right where is it let me see what our video is going to be for next month it looks like oh man we're going let's see can i flip this over oh and i gotta say it nothing fancy is next someone said i don't know about that devout imperial golden stout was the beer thank you jason ham radio 2.0 i would have mentioned that right up in front but uh given the nature of these interview streams sometimes i have to kind of move right to the interview as fast as possible thank you mike for the super chat ham sex oh ham sexy t-shirt yes leia if you're watching this later we need a ham sexy t-shirt we're gonna do that uh yeah i i don't want to insult anybody but that comment was funny mike seems like an sgm that did not receive the lobotomy mark mike's a smart dude i had a lot of fun talking to mike uh let me throw this up all right okay links are up ham ham sexy merch is at hamtactical.com and uh we're gonna hop over to discord the link for discord is in the description so again if you have any questions related to ham radio we'll be heading over there now generally open to pretty much anything but you know we try to keep it somewhat radial related at least in the beginning i am josh ki6 naz thank you so much for

Channel: Ham Radio Crash Course

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Length: 83min 5sec (4985 seconds)

Published: Sat Aug 01 2020