Waste of Money: NVIDIA RTX 3080 Ti Review & Benchmarks

[Music] give me all your money [Music] uh really can at least have a 30-90 come on we're gonna apologize in advance for wasting your time and hours with this one we'll get to the point as fast as possible here we did a full suite of thermals power acoustics we did flatness testing surface pressure testing everything spent like a day on just the accessory testing alone for the 3080ti not even counting the games and you know at the end of it ultimately we just grew increasingly frustrated with nvidia's rtx 3080ti which is launching tomorrow from date of review going up but review embargo lives today so we're here to review it and tell you why we became increasingly frustrated with it it's a number of reasons one of which is the price twelve hundred dollars before that this video is brought to you by corsair and their 5000d airflow the corsair 5000d airflow is an atx tower with high material build quality and a focus on cooling performance with attention paid to small details the case has a unique look with deeply indented cooling pathways on the sides of the front and top panels and has carefully matched colors across the case available in both white and black learn more at the link in the description below so ultimately with nvidia saying twelve hundred dollars and arguing with us uh separately that it is okay at twelve hundred dollars because it's better than quote better than amd's 6900 xt which is a thousand dollars two things one no it's not not always some scenarios yes certainly but not all of them two we didn't recommend the 6900xt at a thousand dollars either we also thought that was a waste of money just like the 30 90. this was way back when we were all much more naive but it was the 30 80 and the 6800 xt they looked great for the money compared to a 6900x or 3090. that was before the the gpu shortage was really as well documented and known as it is now or at least shortage versus the insane demand so we're gonna save you all the time here we decided to cut this review down to the base components to prove our point which is that this card is not worth the time or the money in fact it is so not worth the time or the money that i didn't even bother to disconnect it from the test bench to put it on the table for the shoot in gaming the 3080 ti versus the 3080 is anywhere from 2.3 percent to max about 13 percent better than the 3080 non-ti and everything else kind of scales from there based on what you're looking at we retested the 3080 non-ti for this review specifically slight moving numbers upwards as the drivers have advanced and things like that so that's fresh data but ultimately the average was closer to maybe eight depending so that the tens were rare and it was mostly in 4k higher resolution scenarios high load the 30 90 it doesn't even matter it's just not relevant it's not something you should be buying for gaming it's a card maybe for artists for game developers people who can work in unreal engine or something make use of that vram but it just doesn't make sense to really run it as a comparison for games we didn't recommend it for gaming when it came out and there was a reason for that so the 3080ti when it was announced in nvidia's keynote which at least it wasn't intel's but it was boring when it was announced nvidia shocked everybody by announcing it at 1200 which is 200 higher than expectations were before launch and from what we understand speaking with a couple of people it sounds like that price was up in the air for a little bit prior to launch but the extra 200 gets tacked on at the end because nvidia knows that it can make it and nvidia is playing like a gamestop second hand seller here at this point where nvidia knows it's going to get sold for a lot of money by someone else anyway secondhand so it should be the middleman itself it should middleman its own product at a higher price and collect on some of that cash that any other market would not allow this product the 3080 ti would be doa in any other market condition than right now that's where it is so this is an egregious money grab is highway robbery and that's the current gpu market the offensive thing though is that it's coming from nvidia the first party which has apparently lied through its teeth about how much it wants to support gamers for the last six months now nvidia is taking advantage of the current market it probably regrets ever launching the 3080 at 700 for technical msrp and the 3080 ti simply put is just it's not worth 1200 period you don't need the rest of the review we have some numbers in here kind of back it up but the real problem is the the percent difference in price versus the percent difference in gaming performance because that's where it's targeted so 12 gigabytes of memory that's the change it's a cut down 30 90 die in a sense where you're you're running slimmer cores and sms but you've got half the memory of 30 90 2 gigabytes more than a 30 80. that's not going to make a difference in anything the extra 2 gigabytes extra 12 gigabytes in the 3090 will that will matter for things like 3d art but the 3080 ti it can't really fill that gap it can't be a 3090 alternative so that makes it useless as a 3090 alternative and it makes it overpriced as a 3080 alternative and the pricing if you do the simple numbers on it msrp to msrp because that's all we can base this on it's about nvidia after all not the secondhand market msrp to msrp it's 71 more money for a 3080 ti than a 3080 and it's less than 10 more performance that's insane it's it's so insane that somebody should check on nvidia and make sure everyone's okay there that there's not some sort of noxious gas leak in the building that's making them think that this price point makes any sense whatsoever and video right now this is this isn't video right now it's just a money printer over there just get all the money out of the architecture that you can that's nvidia let's get into some of the benchmarks we're gonna keep it really simple today and go through the numbers and it's uh movie prop money by the way before anyone gets the wrong idea frequency validation helps us understand how a card is performing and understand its performance better the 3080 tia tai the geforce rtx 3080 ti fe starts at around 1970 megahertz then immediately drops to about 1920 then 1905 megahertz and eventually it settles at about 1890 megahertz this is normal it's because of how nvidia's boost follows a temperature gradient so as the temperature decreases the frequency increases and vice versa in our original frequency test of the rtx 3080 fe back at its initial launch we plotted this line with the 3080 fe at around 1935 megahertz average in the time since there have been changes to boosting behavior to ensure that some cards don't crash if they're boosting too high these numbers will move around a little bit based on which model you're working with and the silicon quality itself so even another fe would plot a little differently from this one fan behavior looks like this as the gpu ramps to about 74 degrees core and we'll look at memory momentarily for temperature we see the fan has a delayed start of about 10 seconds after the load begins the fan ends up in the range of about 1970 to 2020 rpm average combined overall hysteresis looks fine on this and fan ramp looks standard we don't get any high pitched whining annoyances until overclocking or unless dealing with super high fps where coil wine kicks in more on the overclocking stuff later rainbow six siege is up now at 4k the rtx 380 ti pushed 201 fps average effectively the same as the rtx 3090 the performance landed it ahead of the rtx 3080 eagle and the retest by about eight percent so wow cool that's worth four hundred dollars that's almost two percent per 100 here the rx 6900 xt remains disadvantaged at the higher resolutions running at a peasantly 168 fps average at 1440p the rtx 3080 ti pushed 350 fps average allowing the rtx 3090 a lead of about two and a half percent the 3080 eagle is led by the ti by about five percent mapping out to about 100 for every one percentage point improvement at msrp for both it probably has good value if you scalp it if you want to start a side business but for actual use we'd buy one of the other ones at 1080p the rtx 3080 ti held 450 fps average out doing the 3080 eagle by about 2.3 percent the 6900xt holds a slight lead but they're basically the same nvidia's argument about being better than the 6900xt was poorly reinforced to begin with but also not universally true it's not actually the opposite of true here we talk about this more but at this point we've run out of dead horses to flog so we're moving on to the next game in shadow of the tomb raider at 4k the rtx 3080 ti ran 104 fps average with lowe's overall fine and expected nothing's really wrong here other than the price hint which makes it all the more boring the 3080 ti led the 3080 eagle re-test by 6.4 the 6900 xt ran at about 98 fps average so roughly the same as the 3080 and the 6800 xt isn't far behind the worst part of all of this is that the 3080 ti looks even worse as you drop down another run in the stack instead of comparing to the 1 000 6900 xt which is definitely what nvidia wants or the 1500 3090 neither of which we recommended by the way the comparisons should really be to the rtx 3080 and the rx 6800 xt which we actually recommended for gaming the 3090 needs another retest on our charts technically speaking but would gain maximally a couple percent here versus its current positioning with the older numbers you'll forgive us for not freshly retesting something no one should be bind purely for gaming anyway considering we'll be invariably only getting comments about how there's no supply of them to begin with at 1440p the tie fighter [Music] landed at 169 fps average which is three percent ahead of the rx 6800 xt the latter of which remains technically better with lows the 3080 allows the ti a lead of 3.9 percent which is approximately 102.56 for every one percent increase not that we're counting it's like reviewing a titan-class card except moving on at 1080p the 3080ti and the rtx 3080 are the same they're both bound by the cpu a limit which amd can overcome due to driver level differences but otherwise these are all pretty close to each other in total war 3 kingdoms at 4k the 380 ti ran at 50 fps average this shows the limitations of performance in this heavier workload our total war three kingdoms benchmark with the ultra settings we apply is it's a future looking benchmark because it's one of the most challenging for any of these cards to run the 30 90 is allowed a lead of about two percent here versus the 52 on the 3080 ti and the 30 80 ti leads the 30 80 by 12 to 13 this is the biggest gain that we'll look at in today's testing and it's at the outer edge of what we saw at 1440p the rtx 3080 ti held 103 fps average with our ultra settings led by the 3090 by about four percent or leading the 3080 eagle and the 6900 xt by about 9.6 that's a rare occurrence with these two and this is one of the only scenarios in which we were able to find such a difference 1080p is still hard for these cards given the ultra settings of total war the ti sits in its firmly established position right between the 30 90 the 6900 xt and the 3080. the lead over the 3080 has diminished here to 6.8 percent with the 6900 xt encroaching but still running superior and it's 1 and 0.1 lows for frame time consistency in red dead redemption 2 at 4k the 3080 ti held about 95 fps average leading the 3080 eagle by about nine percent here the 6800 xt and 6900 xt run at 75 to 84 fps average in this one so we've got a similar pattern to total war for at least this resolution at 1440p the rtx 3080 ti ran at 138 fps average reducing its lead over the 30-80 non-ti to six and a half percent that'll descend as resolution falls in most cases the 6800 xt holds at 125 fps average encroaching on but not surpassing the normal 3080 non-di the 6900xt leads here so nvidia isn't always better than the 1 000 part despite a 20 hike in price and also to be clear we don't recommend the 6900xt either 1080p establishes the 3080ti at 165fps average allowing the 6900xt lead at a significant price drop the 6800 xt is led by the 3080 ti by about six percent here with a 3080 not far behind this chart shows the noise levels in our standardized testing measured at a 20 inch distance and every 5 step in an rpm the hard rpm number is listed at the bottom and you'll also see a white star at 41.5 dba which indicates where the card ran when left auto controlled for its fan speed and temperature in a constant load nvidia auto sets fans to match the rpm between fan one and fan two so auto under full load in a 21c environment established on our card roughly a 20 30 rpm speed for each that's 55 for one 59 for the other that'll change per card due to manufacturing variants in the fans and the pwm on them but the card ramps as expected and it follows a standard fan noise curve for gpu coolers power testing is up now tested out the card for board level power consumption we're not measuring at the wall so you can use this as a rough gauge to get an idea for how big of a power supply you'll need if you do happen to buy one of these cards for twelve hundred dollars the 3080ti f tie stock card pulled 363 watts in fur mark and in gaming although that's not shown here it's the same the original 3080 pulled 322 watts here so we're at an increase of about 13 percent more power from the 3080 for the 3080ti with the 3090 pulling actually a little bit below the 3080ti stock cart both of these cards have the same tdp so we're roughly in the right range compared to the 6900xt the 3080ti stock card pulls 20 more power which makes it a lot less efficient overclocking the 3080ti pushed it to an expected 413 watts so that's for the benchmarks now we mentioned a few things in here that didn't get charged overclocking our car there's like something screwy with the drivers or the card because when we try to do a power offset uh 100 baseline it goes up to 114 percent for power offset that any amount power offset our card starts boosting too high and it black screens flickers and loses display out that's a problem that happened when nvidia launched the 3080s we didn't understand what that problem was at the time though and so when we heard about it when we eventually encountered it we didn't really know how to describe what was going on and so it looks like a driver issue and drivers can fix that issue but at the end of the day the 3080ti was boosting too high that's going to inflate the numbers it was stable stock in our test bench we suspect given that a simple power offset gets it to a point without overclocking just overpower gets it to a point where it's flickering and dropping display we suspect that there might be cards out there stock that could encounter the same issue if it's a better gpu core or something uh in some aspects maybe worse than others so anyway overclocking didn't work on hours it this is the first time i've ever seen something quite this strange where it would apply the settings i could stability test it we could get numbers out of it that scaled but then you look at the screen and it's flickering black every maybe a couple times every 30 seconds so not usable that's why overclocking is on the charts we've got footage of it too but end of the day it's busted and that's something something that nvidia is wrong they can try and say you got a bad one all they want but if env it's like you know either you're incompetent for not testing the card at all because i know they get tested at the factory we've been to the factories 100 of the carts and board partners get tested before they ship either it's not getting tested at all which is incompetent or they're pushing it too hard and they're saying it's not getting tested and uh i guess that's also there's there's a problem maybe not incompetence it might just be a mistake where they rushed it but either way we had issues with it and uh that's all we can say about that memory thermals 90 to 100 degrees celsius in our benchmarks depending on which module we were looking at what benchmark we were testing we don't need charts for this that's all you need to know 90 to 100 c uh not a good spot to be thermally for a car that's twelve hundred dollars nvidia get real 80 degrees for the memory backside so that's on the other side of the pcb flip chip module it puts a little closer to the pcb than to the top of the uh memory chip packaging but on the opposite side you're going to get some heat soak and spread and so the number is always going to be lower it's typically about 10 degrees celsius in previous testing so 80 lines up with the 90c memory for the other ones and uh that's about it that's it for this card so don't buy the 3080 ti uh it's it's a waste of silicon that could have been something else and it's it's not bad in an objective sense but it's a terrible price and it's offensive that nvidia would try to sell this for this money so whatever that's it for this one thanks for watching subscribe for more i will say we had fun in nvidia's live stream i had fun trolling the live stream uh we got chat to say f a lot so that was fun but that's it for this one thanks for watching subscribe for more get a story camerasex.net or patreon.comgamersnexus.directly and we'll see you all next time

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Id: Vtkk-_0jrPU

Length: 18min 55sec (1135 seconds)

Published: Wed Jun 02 2021

Reddit Comments

[u/Macketter]

In the end the only indicators that matters to Nvidia are how many 3080ti they can sell and how fast it will sell out.

[u/BootySatanTheSequel]

71% price increase for at best a 10% gaming performance increase over a non-Ti 3080 sums up this product perfectly. it will only sell because of the current market. in a normal market this product makes 0 sense and if you have $1200 to spend on a GPU, you probably have $1500 to spend on a GPU and would be better off getting a 3090.

[u/winespring]

If you just look at the msrp of the founder edition 3080 and 3090s, if availability was not an issue there would be no market for the 3080 ti and that has been apparent since the 3000 series launched. There is not a large enough gap in performance between the 3080 and the 3090 to add another card that splits the difference in a meaningful way.

[u/Firefox72]

Steve is absolutly pissed in the video. And who can blame him.

This card exists purelly to cash in on the desperate population. Its not here to help games or anything. If Nvidia wanted to help gamers then all these chips would instead be turned into 3080's to increase the suppy of those.

[u/Bobbitto]

Gotta love Steve and the gang, they say it like it is.

[u/Bucser]

I will slap my 1080 and Say "This bad boy will last until the 4080 comes around next year..."

[u/LaughingLoser]

Not surprised at all with the price. Watch them drop it back to “normal” ($1000 USD) when the market isn’t as fucked as it is right now.

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[u/87mave]

I feel so damn jammy I've had my 3080 for about 5 months now at a cost of £650. I really feel for you guys out there wanting a new gpu.