Thursday Afternoon Monday Morning Podcast 4-25-19 w/ @TalWilkenfeld (video)

hey what's going on it's bill bird it's time for the Thursday afternoon just before Friday Monday morning podcast what's going on how I yeah I am once again this is like all of a sudden I never have [ __ ] guests and then all of a sudden they all come out of the woodwork almost at the same time on all musicians and once again we have a very special guest mr. Wilkenfeld how are you I'm good you got a new album coming out yep right just glad you know what it is I didn't want to start with that because I know you [ __ ] been talking about all kinds of music I had to ask you cuz we're over your place right now well how you liking the Vitamix I love the Vitamix cuz I gotten into like I'm an old man now I don't know if you can tell I use a lot of lotion I think I'm still in my 20s but I'm but to turn 51 here in June and I've started to do like for breakfast I like to just have like a smoothie yeah as phony as that sounds to everybody doesn't live in it's the [ __ ] greatest thing ever right you just drink it you're full yeah you know rather than doing the Denny's Grand Slam breakfast you feel like a tub of [ __ ] which makes you eat something else bad so people been telling me about the Vitamix my life right now I'm like like that was a thing you have all these amazing instruments and [ __ ] and then thing that stuck I was like oh a Vitamix I wonder if that one Masha's up the [ __ ] spinach and kale a little bit better I have the best recipe - you do yeah I got two really good ones that I stand by they trade I got one that I substitute the kale for spinach spinach tastes better all it is it's just that substitute for dandelion greens just FYI you Swift I use dandelion greens now what do you do to sweeten that up so it's not bitter as [ __ ] I use some honey just a little bit just a little bit yeah know what time my wife took me to some restaurant we ended up eating like dandelions like a dandelion we both trying it out like hey man let's be healthy we both looked at each other it's like it was one of the worst things I ever tasted so when you grind that up we have almond milk in there too or it's it's actually a juice really it's not like a smoothie but it's quite thick which is why I still call it a smoothie but - dandelion greens cilantro a little bit of black pepper oh my god tumeric ginger like fresh ginger which would you call me okay what you stand by that it's the song sing it sounds a little bit of honey what else do I put in there water there's obviously water and and then I get hungry an hour and a half later where do you buy Danny's going your backyard and yeah come out of the [ __ ] grass what do you get you Daniel it's like any health food store whole food sir I never say I gotta be honest with you no I've been to a few of those little health food places I've never I've never seen that but uh alright mine mine is just simple it's just a almond it's a almond milk with some almonds just in case there's not enough almond in there there's some spinach the [ __ ] is a banana a little bit of ice I know I'm forgetting something berries blueberries no I got to get a couple goes because I I basically have to go to smoothies and I'm getting sick of them and then I have like this Greek yogurt parfait and I just sort of rotate that on a three thin I'm just I've had it you know you know like when you've been jamming with people too long you're like we need some new blood or something that's where I am with mustn't me trying to steer it back to the music here so let's at least say the name of your incredible album that I only heard three tracks of cuz I couldn't figure out how to download it for those of you not familiar with Tala she's she's basically played with everybody and I promised her I wasn't gonna bring up all the past like hey man what was it like playing with this person but she's you know IMDB or she's played with literally everybody and you've basically been known as this monster bass player that can just play with anybody and your hidden talent of an unbelievable singing voice is finally displayed like that's what killed me when I listened you just played those three tracks for me aside from of course how up front you know the basses and all the mix which I'm lovin yeah I had no idea you could sing like that I kind of um I I've kept it quiet for a while like I started as a singer-songwriter when I first picked up guitar mhm and then sort of started focusing just on guitar when I moved to America cuz I left home when I was 16 right I moved to America and I went to this music school for a little while and I went from like only being hope you went to a nice place all this crap about the Michael Jackson documentary which I fused to [ __ ] watch why would you do that why would you put although that those horrible stories in your head it's like I get it all right the guy was a creep and now he's dead so what are we doing I guess you got a list somebody's going someone was telling me going you have well you have to watch it so then you you as a parent it's like I'm not gonna let some [ __ ] guys sleep with my kid behind nine doors anyway so you got this album I went to this this school and I went from being allowed to play like half an hour a day to wanting to practice for like six hours a day was that torture for you considering the way you took I remember you hearing yeah I watched that interview you said the first time you actually played a chord you got emotional you cried yeah so you love something that much and then all of a sudden going to you going to school in Australia yeah so they were teaching about Columbus and all the great stuff that happened here in America of course right whatever it was how you guys you got dropped off by the English convicts apparently yeah exactly yeah exactly so then all of a sudden was that torture for you in school it was just it was hard because you know academia was the focus especially like where I like with who I grew up with you know my mom just like really wanted me to you know you imagine yeah I do all my schoolwork and stuff I mean she's probably just being a responsible parent but like I just was not into geography and history I was into did you ever just like to pick up the bass and be like mom listen to this I mean listen to this and then look at my grades in math and you tell me which direction I'm supposed to go in I mean I was just I was a guitarist at that point like I only switched to bass when I was 17 which and I already moved to America at that point but yeah I mean she heard me play I just I think that like you know the music business is a tough place and she probably just thought like maybe maybe that's not the best thing for you to do to be in the music industry it's so uncertain so but I wasn't gonna listen to what anyone was going to say like that's all I knew that had to be a musician and I didn't care if I was gonna be homeless and write and be a musician I just I knew that that's what I had to do so I never wonder how many how many musicians are out there because that story is like you had that inner drive and like I always wondered like how many like Jimi Hendrix they're like working at Home Depot because their parents or something you know they just didn't have that thing to be like no no no [ __ ] that I'm doing it right when really important people that basically taught you how to walk and talk and all of that stuff start telling you you know you shouldn't go in that direction is that's just something that you it was that something that developed was it the love that you had when you started playing guitar that you were like no I literally have to do this or do you feel you always had sort of that that that Drive well I actually think as a kid especially as a teenager like if your parents tell you not to do something you're gonna want to do it more like 99% of teenagers I'd read those days so it probably worked out in the the right way that she didn't really want me to focus on music because that just made me want to do it more oh okay yeah I mean I'm kind of I mean I wouldn't even say I was necessarily rebellious but if you want something that bad and someone's telling you know you're like well I'll prove to you that I really deserve this and I'm gonna work my ass off and I did like I was so focused like my rebellion as a teenager was to succeed as a musician it wasn't like to go off and do drugs or whatever else like that was my rebellion was was success you know I went to I was looking at schools to see which one to take you know put my daughter and you know all the public schools a [ __ ] out here I guess so you gotta sent him to private school and spend like a zillion dollars by the time they're like eight it's so [ __ ] stupid so he went to this one and it was like a french-speaking one right so all the kids was amazing the kids were super smart is a great school and and but the lady given like the tour right she goes the hell did she say I asked her I said hey you know did the parents kind of learn French along the way she's like no we encourage you to speaks a perfect English at home and blah blah I thought what if I want to learn to and she looked at me she goes yes it's too late for you it's just like goddamn I actually respected it but you know what I'm so happy she said that to me because now I got this thing like I and I'll show you yeah and I got flashcards over to flashcards and I'm like looking at I'm trying to put together phrases and stuff I you know listen the back of my head I know she's probably right and I love this goal that I'm actually excited that the potential to go there but like I I do relate to that as far as when somebody says that but there was a period in my life where I wasn't that guy oh yeah like if somebody said that to me I'd be like oh okay forget it oh really so I think I've probably had that since I was really young like like just determination to do whatever I want to do cuz like I remember being super focused on running before I was a guitar player and I was like obsessed with long-distance running like and and in my head I'm like I have to be the best I have to be the best runner goals one girl that was better than me and and it pissed me off so much and I remember like there was this one race that was I don't know it's like a ten mile race it was really long and and I just I just had to beat this girl and I did beat the girl who did but I did this like like celebratory dance afterwards because I was so excited and I threw my back out so then I I kind of was like humbling around for a little while and couldn't run like a couple weeks and then that's actually when I walked past that guitar and started playing i'm een i don't think she saw it she was that far behind me wow that's like a feel-good movie except dated they always run krytus before you blow out your back then you became like your musician so you know the few tracks that I heard in that three the three that I listened to is definitely you know this is really like a very personal album as far as like you know talking about yourself that one you just play what was the name of the haunted heart wanted loved haunted loved the one that's just the basin voice the orchestra yeah yeah that was some pretty heavy lyrics that made me start thinking about my parents I went on a little trip there well yeah yeah thinking about my whole life and I people listening here I can't recommend like the level of quality of the music that you you've done with other people and now to actually hear hey these are my ideas with your voice on top of it the second I heard a few of these I was like oh this is one of these these albums I'm just gonna put in back in that day when you had a CD just stick it in there until the thing just started skipping on it what you mean how your iTunes is skipping on you right now 30 second I know I know you can download it you gots modifies I don't have Spotify I I'm this idiot who I still buy music and then it fills up your computer and now because right now I need a new I need a new laptop I need a new phone and I know I put iPad the whole thing [ __ ] the bed on me at the same time and yeah I miss can I buy it on vinyl I have a record player I already got me a burrito here from coming over so I'll I'll throw some money at towards that but wasn't gonna say so you also mentioned that you're actually gonna be doing a whole tour in this thing too huh yeah now a headlining tour you open him what he had on headlining headlining nice I'm excited it's just your first like big headlining tour cuz you've always been like the hired gun as far as I know yeah this is your first like well I I actually I was opening for the WHO with my band and we played the Boston Garden and something really cool is it called the Boston Garden they called the TD Banknorth Garden key how'd you like that that was fun didn't you do that recently yeah I did some stand-up there yeah and I did jam before with my brother so cool we had a good we definitely had your you know so funny zoo yeah ever no one was paying attention at all when we were playing or whatever they thought it's kind of funny that we're doing it and this is comedian Jim Breuer who does this amazing bid on Slayer fans like how dedicated and crazy they are well we actually played I think it's only play we played a Slayer song and literally this it was like no one was reacting to anything we were doing we sucked right the second we started playing Slayer some [ __ ] security guide like you know halfway if the arena just goes hilarious so now your style of music like going no you can ask me something I was gonna say like like what does playing before a stand-up set do for you it makes the venue not as intimidating I've only done it it like why why it is because you know it stand up in a place that big doesn't make sense you like honey you know I I had all these feelings of like why am I like how did I get here what am I doing here what the [ __ ] do I have to say that justifies all these people showing up you know then normal if you're any sort of like human being that's what you have if you're a psychopath you just like how come we're not playing were playing the Roman Colosseum but I was sitting there and that's what that what was what was going through my head but the first time I ever did one I did for the New York Comedy Festival and I did Madison Square Garden and we got together and jammed in there and I just did that because I loved Led Zeppelin and they did song remains the same if I could just play some drums there and make a little bit of noise and what happened was we were having so much fun and I invited so many people down there they like you know I didn't ever fully forget where I was but next thing you know you know I was yelling hey Josh is that that Motley Crue thing and you just yelling and you just kind of made it yours yeah so that night it just didn't it didn't feel I was able to kind of just like I had already made a bunch of noise in there and nothing bad happened you know I didn't know the roof didn't collapse so I think that that's kind of like what it did for me although I [ __ ] up at the forum because I played it like three hours I almost walked up cuz I was just like I got off stage and I was like wiped out I was just like oh I know oh no but then like the Adrenaline's like oh my god what if I vomit from all these [ __ ] people you know that that'll get you through a good 90-minute why do you not like play on stage for your audience because I respect them no you say that I'm good for a comedian I'll give you that but I am NOT a you know what I like like one of my favorite things to do is to watch a pro play mm-hmm because it's just you know when they're just doing like a soundcheck a lot of times they'll be physically playing something that I could play but I could never make it sound like that and there's always like a personnel you know if you listen to a really good drummer you can hear like you can hear them in the playing which you know took me a while to be able to hear that but now I'm able to do and I've seen I don't know there's just something cool about it it's like watching a professional hockey player like taping up their stick there's just something that when you see a pro doing something it's in you're into it especially if it's your hobby it's [ __ ] mesmerizing so that's that's why when a few times I've come over here like I'm always in there because I like sitting back and just watching all you guys play and my favorite thing about watching a live band is watching a band that doesn't play it the same way every night and even if you've never seen the band you can tell because they're like looking at each other and everything so that's when I get into like oh man they're in the moment right now this is like watching a comic Griff and somebody's gonna do something make somebody's smile and then they add something else and I mean just as an audience member and a fan of music trying to pick up like that thing going on and like my intern like I'm the band's I listened to growing up like I remember Stevie Ray Vaughan whenever he was playing a solo it was like Chris Layton and Tommy Shannon and Reese we're always looking right at him like is he gonna go back in again oh we go we're going back to you know him singing and he just would [ __ ] be wailing it and he had this little thing you just look at him he gives give him a little nod and how they all were like okay and and and they wouldn't [ __ ] that up I'm just having attempted to do you know get together with friends and play and everything I just I have such an admiration for it so I mean that's how I feel about comedy and great comedy and that's why I like watching you perform oh yeah when I do a great [ __ ] joke and I'm not open to somebody who just did a dick joke damn it amazed it's right on the same level no but like because I just started as you know like getting it really heavily into comedy the past like a year or so yeah and like the reason that appeals to me so much is because it like speaks to both parts of me as a musician there's the the jazz musician in me which is like the improvisational musician which like like really enjoys watching you riff like and I'm just and then there's lash bomb then there's like the composer like the the person that's like you know into writing songs and like and then watching you create this amazing material planets it's very sad it's not a requirement for people in your band because I mean when you like when you go and do this tour like I I just know doing the same jokes over and over and over again it's like you have to like yeah do something to break out of it do you on this tour I mean you sell any album you got to go out and and and you know play it and sell the music to them like how how much like messing around do you do I do a lot and then is a requirement and that's why it's been really tricky to find band members and I have found like the perfect guitarist and drummer to play with me because you know my music is compositionally like lyrically for instance very influenced by folk music or songwriter music but then musically it's it's influenced from anything from rock to folk to jazz to whatever it just goes all over the place that's what I was loving but this this some sort of through line maybe it's you I don't know what it is on and because I was just listening to dance sounded so great and then I I really started listening to the mix of it I'm like wow she's the whole bottom end of this song and then it fell I don't I would say technically but I felt like the guitars and keys were like up here yeah and but you were the sort of the meat and potatoes of the whole thing driving the whole song but like the the different tones and stuff there was why I'm unforced I don't know in the names of the corner painter the fella yeah when I went into that bridge it was out so it's sections called that middle sections just like what the [ __ ] is that and then you go right back to that part that really rocks oh yeah I looked at you I was just like that's when the crowds gonna go nuts cuz you taking him on this ride where you coming out and you just you know blowing their wig back in the beginning and then it goes to this other places like whoa what the [ __ ] is this this is this mood thing well that's what it's like a people start taking their drugs in the crowd I would feel that was a time all sudden somebody sparked up a [ __ ] J's we used to say and and then all of a sudden like I don't know what you just punch him in the face again and then the [ __ ] song is over it's just like yeah I think that the cohesiveness on the record comes from like having the same band play all of these songs even though they're they're very different like some are you know just vocal and bass and some are acoustic guitar and and very little behind me and then there's like these full rockers but it's the same band and I just think that that's really important like first how longs it take you to put that together well it took me a few years to sort of search for the sound of the record right and like figure out who was gonna play on it and who like what was the the best sound for these songs and then I finally went into the studio with Blake Mills and Jeremy and Paul Stacey and we cut corner painter which is the first song I played Eunice the first song on the record and that when I heard that back on the speakers and this was no bass it was just I was playing acoustic baritone guitar Blake was playing guitar and Jeremy was playing drums and the sound was so full well I think I didn't even want to play bass on it there's no bass on that song at all I just played it on an organ and then Benmont Tench overdubbed organ as well like a pump organ mm-hmm but I heard that song was like this is the lynchpin for the record and so then I went home and I like wrote a bunch of other songs that I felt would fit with that vibe or complement it and and then once I'd done that we went back in the studio for it was like anywhere from like 8 to 10 days and cut the whole thing at once Wow and so I think that that's part of the the cohesiveness is that we just we cut it all together hey when you put together a band if you had been like okay I know these two people are right and then a third person comes in and so takes it into another direction you got to fire one of those other two people there just because but the other cuz the other person's such a beast I mean it's a it's all about cannot aside pointed at the drums when I said like casting for a movie to like sometimes it's the most important thing is the casting all right how do you like LA by the way miss Australia I don't miss Australia some of my best friends are there I had definitely missed them you know but and I miss the beach I don't really think that the beach in LA is that cool no I got me I'm terrified of the ocean and but every time I go to Australia it's like oh if I was ever you know there's a place to get eaten by a shark it is definitely the coast of your country it's so beautiful I was you know at least you die beautifully yeah I I remember we were there and like I don't know when we were it was your your weird winter down there which is just a different time and it was too it was too cold and windy it's not weird it's just weird to me because I'm in the northern hemisphere but so we were down there and I was expecting it to be [ __ ] hot and all of a sudden was like freezin and but even then I was looking at I was like if it wasn't so rough and it wasn't so cold I think I would and maybe I did actually go into the water when I was in Perth because I just wanted to say that I stood in the Indian Ocean and I literally went up to my ankles and I got back in and then I got in the car and I was listening to the radio and there was a helicopter following it like an 18 foot tiger shark along the beach just to let the surfers and everybody know that the thing was there and you guys had the creepiest terminology ever for when someone gets eaten by a shark you say he was taken that's what I heard oh yeah yeah it was some low light taking I'm like oh my god I'd rather be eaten than taken eating to me is it's over I mean it's [ __ ] horrific and then I you bleed out and it's overtaking means I you took me somewhere I just start thinking a Chain Saw Massacre when that [ __ ] guy just grabbed that woman and yanked her and slam the door taking almost down slightly more polite though now you can know I guess what the next word is taken to the movies right exactly [Laughter] taken to the movies shox oh yeah I was gonna say you know it seems you know what I liked it's this fair play on this album yeah as far as there was a few where it was the other person and that was a few there was you right so that's a that's a that's an important milestone in your life when you at least for me it was when I was able to be like I you know I was going through chicks of [ __ ] psychos you know I did that tall I was about 35 and I was just like I fell you know at what point are you gonna [ __ ] is it maybe you maybe who you're picking maybe what you're bringing to the table and then once I was able to do that I didn't finally ended up meeting Nia I that's kind of why I called the album love remains because love remains as in the remnants of love like the aftermath of her love gone bad or love remains like love still exists oh I thought you meant there was still pieces of other relationships in you it it's both it's like the remnants and then love still you know continues there's always love well this is theory among my guy friends that women are able to cry it out because you're allowed to cry that you're able to get past [ __ ] and then it's just like [ __ ] gone where guys like hang on to [ __ ] I mean I was reading this book on Bob Cousy he's one of the great Celtics and Bill Russell right one of the greatest players of all time and Bob koozies wife passed away and he still has a picture on the wall and he still talks to all I guess I didn't break up so maybe it was that but like you know I still always joke with my wife going you know if I died within three weeks she'd have all my clothes down a good will maybe a DVD in the back of a [ __ ] closet but she's like no I would never do that but I just feel like women are better at either how you're wired and then I also think it's more it's one of the great emotions crying when the great healing emotions is not acceptable for guys and you just shut it off so not only do not get to heal you actually make yourself I think worse by [ __ ] holding it in it's bad enough you know I don't know it's it's a really weird thing so that's it that's actually I don't I don't know what the word is but to hear you say that that you actually some of it stays in there I don't know that makes me feel not as [ __ ] up yeah also like I feel like when when you're in love or when you love someone like it people often like projected outwards as if it's the other person that's making you in love whereas like love is actually just always in you and that that person is maybe igniting it or showing you that it's there but it is always there and knowing that keeps me centered yeah it's it's it's that's not something that you can it's hard to remember that you know I would I would say I don't know I'm actually literally getting uncomfortable just even talking about it it helps my was walled off for a long [ __ ] time and then I had like this massive amount of love in me and it would just come out in these weird ways like about like like animals being abused or any sort of person being hurt I could feel it but like if I was just with somebody and we going to the movies like I didn't even know what the [ __ ] to do I'd just be sitting there like this [ __ ] robot like did you enjoy that now we're getting on the subway and it was just like and I was meeting people I just I mean I I'm embarrassed that we're the kind of person I was back in the day as far as like trying to get through stuff like that but how did you break through that I met somebody I couldn't break up with I would in my head fantasize during tough times of breaking up with my now wife and in my head we were living in this place where there was there was first place was an elevator in the other place had stairs and when she was going to get on the elevator even in the fantasy of being single again before the door closed I would run out and go get her or when she would walk down the stairs and all right I come back and I couldn't I couldn't even and hey for years I did that and it never dawned on me like I've always been so [ __ ] like not in touched with like hey Bill you know this is the 20,000th [ __ ] signal like I used to ride around had a paper route back in the day and I used to ride around in the morning and I had memorized comedy routines with my favorite comedians and I would fantasize that I was doing them in front of the school and it didn't dawn on me at that point they hate bill maybe you want to be a comedian it didn't it was just I had no connection to it whatsoever huh it was just me I think at that point it was all about you know getting people to like me so I wouldn't get the [ __ ] kicked out of me or I wouldn't have to deal with some you know you know you know it was it was before all this caring on social media is just like the hope every day at school is just like am I gonna get it today or how can I get it off for me and get it on to the next weakest kid it was a very weird I don't know some of it was good but a lot of it wasn't necessarily probably the way kids should grow up now we're probably like overly doing it I don't know you don't made me feel good when you came when I came into you place there and you were like oh there's my phone oh my gosh you have massive advi I also unfortunately get phone anxiety which I hate lectures oh you don't have it right yeah if I don't have it I start to like feel like oh [ __ ] where's the phone or like if I don't look at it for for too long I start to feel that and so I have to work really hard at like disciplining myself so that I can like keep it away from me for a certain amount of hours to be like creative and productive because it's just like I feel so sorry for like for kids they're like teenagers right now like just like so attached to their phones and I see what it does to my brain teenager I am that's brutal ya know it like gives you the shortest attention span it like everything's just immediate and so I'm just so glad that like it kind of came a little bit later you realize we're like lab rats because we're like sort of the first wave of like well let's see what this does to people I actually saw you know I went and I got gas today and I saw this after the burrito I know that's gonna be later that's why this podcast will not be a full hour whenever they you know it's hitting me what the [ __ ] is on the microphones that I hear that me nuts piece of fuzz so I was still there say this is the podcast people are used to get them so I pulled up to get yeah I was getting pumping gas and you know this la couple pulls up la meaning beautiful I'm not judging them like they're [ __ ] they're [ __ ] beautiful right so they pull up and the guy gets out to pump the gas the woman's driving the second she barely pressed park you know immediately the phone and was just sitting there and I was watching her and I was just like that's me that is literally me I do that when I'm driving like a lot I know it's it's it's yeah I called a friend up one time this is maybe about three months ago I was trying to do like an intense period of writing and I said hey could you just because I'm you know it takes I think apparently 28 days to break a habit I think could you come over for you know of 28 days apparently like can I give you my phone and then just go away and then I'll meet you back here and I did that for a few days and actually like helped me like reprogram my cell yeah yeah and like once you do that then it's like ah you you feel like you can finally relax it's weird this is something that I learned going overseas and I can't get texting or anybody this is what happens if you don't text anybody nobody texts you like I would come back thinking oh my god I haven't checked my text messages in 10 days I'm gonna have 5 million [ __ ] texts and I had like maybe six really seven yeah I don't what am ia loser nobody like it's like I don't text people you're like now I come özil Ian of them now I feel like an [ __ ] no I came back and it's just like you it's it's like you know like once do you want something in your life not to happen and you don't realize how much of it you're creating yeah okay well so much of the phone [ __ ] I realize I am creating all of the texting that I'm doing like I'm in traffic traffic sucks I just start calling people right just like hey man what's going on I literally have a friend of mine that we like we are friendship because she's married with kids I'm married and have a kid and it's just like our whole relationship I don't think I've seen her in a year and a half our relationship that we have the deal the unwritten deal is that we call each other when we're stuck in traffic yeah then the big joke is a I'm on the 134 and that's in or the other person picks up alright where are you how long a drive do you have and it's just like you're sort of almost like a suicide hotline I'm getting them to get home I do like all of my phone calls in the car too or really really late at night like while I'm getting ready for bed like like my friends in Australia just know that I'm gonna call like 3:00 a.m. my time like facetiming them well I'm like brushing my teeth and [ __ ] now it's like a ritual like oh we ready for teeth brushing time and what is it like seven the next day they're right 7:00 at night fortunately or even slightly yeah something like that yeah right around about then it's great that guy I always call Australia at that time when I'm getting ready for bed time when was the last time you heard some music that made you like whenever I listen to like amazing music I always fantasize that it's me doing it oh yeah yeah I do that run all the way through the song if the drums are awesome I'm playing drums someone's singing great then all of a sudden I'm doing that I'm very self-involved when was the last time you as a musician listened to something and you were just like oh [ __ ] I wish that was me does that happen alright no it doesn't happen but strike two with the texting and now you're fantasizing I don't do that but I listen and admire a lot of people who'd you to listen to coming up I didn't want to ask you any of these questions I know you've been asked this man okay listen to Miles Davis and then of course there was the Bee Gees jazz disco I just really obsessed with is Indian classical music do you remember that time we were like driving back from one of your shows and I played you some Indian Indian classical music Bob Dylan song to you which you really didn't like or you were making fun of but Bob Dylan is like one of my favorites of all time I love Bob Dylan okay but like you were like jerking around like changing the lyrics and stuff I was just being an [ __ ] we do that all the time you made me laugh so much and then I played you an Indian classical piece but maybe you don't remember that but what I remember you played me that blues song yeah that was Blind Willie Johnson yes also one of my fav yes okay yeah dad I remember yeah I love old blues like it's so raw and real right and I also like like because if you you'll notice like on my album like I switch in and out of like time signatures a lot and but it doesn't sound like I'm switching time CP inches at least that's what I do that on that's the things that I yeah I didn't really notice that that's what I'm saying like because I kind of I let the music like the melody or the story guide the time as opposed to like the other way around like sometimes people will write the music first and then that lay the melody and stuff on top I saw an interview with somebody said that said every time I come on with the riff it's in a weird time signature and then the drummer fixes it I remember thinking like he should have [ __ ] kept it right getting that yeah but like why not what I'm just saying that so that's what I that's what I would think yeah I was joking around like with with Bob Weir because like basically he played with lightning Hopkins medium bob weird yeah mm-hmm Grateful Dead right he played with lightnin Hopkins who's one of my favorite like blues players and I know when he started like those guys were all like in their 40s right yeah and blues guys I mean and and he was joking around like saying that like lighten and played like the 12 and a half ba blues because you know if he has to add a beat to finish the the story he's telling there's gonna add a beat like it's not about like just this rigid thing and like I was I've been composing like that too like if the melody wants to go on a few beats longer or you know then make it a bar or seven like and it will feel natural if if it goes with the melody but if you try to fit a melody over the top of the time signature then sometimes it can feel a little bit more choppy yeah I get that yeah because then it's that because to the layperson they're not listening what time it's in know the melody and the story is old folk music to like you listen to some old folk like you hear like Baz five and seven because they're just adding beats to like finish the phrase yeah I know I never noticed and that sometimes why like you know that there won't be drums on it like if there was drums it probably would sound kind of strange but it's just like an acoustic guitar and a voice like that song I played for you that Bob Dylan song that's called it's a right mom and he bleeding like there's some buzz of like five and [ __ ] and that he just like adds some beats and as you wouldn't you wouldn't know it but if you counted it it's odd because he's just trying to fit the lyric in oh yeah it's it's genius I love it man you're so talented in that area like one when did when do you notice that [ __ ] like I would just be like I'm just psyched if I listen to a song I know all the words oh that was just in seven when I first like moved to America and I was playing guitar I and I was like starting to play like six hours a day and I like gave myself tendinitis and I had to stop playing for a minute and then I started like like messing around like with drums with one hand or like bass with one hand and people started coming up to me being like yeah mini Vinny Vinny Vinny and I'm like what the [ __ ] is mini Vinny like you know Vinnie Colaiuta okay so I went and like listened to Vinnie Colaiuta this was me at I guess like 17 now and and everyone was passing around tapes of Vinnie Colaiuta like whoa like the stuff with charisma and stuff and and actually Vinnie was then one of the first people I met when when I moved to America because he came to my school and I'd been playing for two and a half months at the time and like one of the these drum clinicians was with him wait a minute you don't even play in two and a half months and somebody told you to move to a space because I've been playing it for a couple years yeah yeah right what was that like and he was like oh we should play sometime I said yeah and I was so shy like because I'd listened to all this stuff and obviously he's he's one of the best in the world and I was but I kept it in my head I'm like okay okay but then I moved to New York and I'm like I just want to be a jazz musician I want to like play in clubs like five times a night and like Charlie Parker and monk and all the guys did right and and I did that for a few years and then that's when I like I played with the Allman Brothers and like made a record played with the Allman Brothers that was my first gig when I was a teenager Jesus Christ yeah like that's where it all started and then I came back to LA and I like played Vanitas stuff with the OMA brothers in my my solo project and and then the weeks later he got the call from Jeff Beck that like or hit Jeff Beck's management that they needed a bass player and then he he told them about me and then they called me and they asked me to send in tapes I sent in the tapes and the next thing I knew I was flying to England to audition for Jeff so and then everything like you know Prince and her how are you I think I was 21 when I started playing with Jeff yeah Jesus Christ that's the first time I saw you we're talking that live at Ronnie Scott's which I've still never been in there the couple times I've gone to London I already see it it's always like packed a mic I'll [ __ ] want to go in there and just yeah have a drink and actually listen to some music for like two so that's the first time I saw you so were you nervous when you went into the audition well I was food poisoned I just got enough a plane like where me and Vinny went to the airport and I ate some barbecue chicken pizza and I got on the plane and Vinny's like raving on about politics because he's obsessed with politics and I'm like eh Vinny I'm feeling kind of sick and he's like yeah yeah so then this happened and not he yeah I mean he kind of reminds me of you and you remind me of him I thought he was from he's from like Pennsylvania Oh is he yeah yeah Pittsburgh always some Pittsburgh yeah it's a Pittsburgh guy oh he went to Berkeley that's why I knew it was some sort of Massachusetts right okay but anyway he's going on about politics and then meanwhile I just like throw up in a bag and like there it is you think that what is I'm like I'll see you in ten hours and I was so sick that like then I had to like get rushed to the hospital when we landed and like be on a trip and then the next day I auditioned for Jeff and so I was feeling really weird but talk about the worst [ __ ] place to give food poisoning my god but the audition went well because at that point I was so like woozy that I was just like okay let's get through this yeah and and then that was the point where like Jeff pointed to me and said so low on cause we've ended his lovers and like he ended up loving that so much that he like kept it in the set and that's how he was like featuring me every night oh wow which is so like cool of him considering who he is and all of that stuff to like I love when people do stuff like that there's a lot of comedians that I you know that I'm a fan of but what really makes me you know over the top is when I see them like encouraging and helping out you know comics that are coming up because I hate that [ __ ] thing of you know that behavior people get to a certain level then they start treating you know and I'm here and you're there it's all stupid it's just like it's you know you're great like that like the way that you kind of mentor younger comedians I mean I try not to be in it I mean I remember most people were nice but I definitely member want people who weren't not necessarily the names but I just remember how that made me feel so it's it's sort of the same thing to with being like a parent and stuff I remember the good days at school and I remember the bad day so I don't know how much fun it was playing with the other kids at school and then I also remember how bad it was if you know you wore the wrong shirt or whatever it's just it was just your day to take the pounding and just like how you could just literally beginning you know it's literally like your world and that's something that I'm hoping I'm gonna be able to remember which I think I will is my kids going through school as far as knowing that though I mean those days I mean who the hell knows with all the [ __ ] cameras out there I don't like anything my buddy was just telling me you know some he told this story there was some kid everybody picked on that day and then the kids who picked on him they found out who all of them were and they had to go see the [ __ ] psychologist and [ __ ] and I was really thinking about that's the cycle I mean like nobody like there was none of that at all mmm-hmm like the guidance counselor was just some weirdo down the hall and he would just he just would talk to he would only really talk to kids who had no hope of going to college right and he just be down there like well hey man you know like maybe you get into construction you know I mean I never even talked to you I just I don't know what he talked to him about maybe they have home lives and [ __ ] maybe was like a therapy thing but like only the [ __ ] up kids got guidance right everybody else was just like all right you're following the cattle right over the [ __ ] cliff go to school two years of language get into college pick a major decide what the [ __ ] you want to do at 18 and then hit yeah it was one of those things and um I remember when I was 15 there was like this like woman that came to the school that was supposedly like a career counselor Oh God and she came with this huge book that looked like yellow pages or something right and everyone had to have an appointment and and you'd go in and she'd be like okay so now what do you want to do and like someone be like I want to be a doctor and so I walked in she's like so what do you want to do like that wouldn't be a musician and she's like sorry there's no musician here what what else would you like to do I just walked out oh you walked out what did she do I don't know that's it I would have but yeah I would have had like an epiphany being like wow I mean how many of these [ __ ] kids wanted to do something that's not in this book right yeah but then you have to look at earth just like there's no way that was her dream in life they have a yellow book and talk to people half your age what do you want to do I want to be keeper all right let's get to disease all right you have any khaki shorts so you literally have somebody who didn't follow a dream talking you out of yours and you had the strength to [ __ ] walk away from that that's very very commendable so that's that those are the moments in life that haunt me that I think that into my life when somebody said something negative and thank God you know I I didn't latch onto it totally in somebody else like cuz I I have like I have like there's like three mic moments in my life you know like climbing up a [ __ ] cliff that if I went to go this way I would have fell back down and and just the luck of it sometimes when I think of it like god what if I didn't meet this person you know and why anyway I've worked with this guy in a warehouse and I finally found somebody that was into comedy the way I was and he understood that you could become it you know what I mean like he was going like dude these guys on TV and not funny man one of these days I'm gonna take a shot at Jack Daniels and just go on stage and do it and all of a sudden like cuz it just you know it was on TV that was like a million miles away there was no [ __ ] internet or anything and we had nobody had video cameras nothing so it just seemed impossible it didn't even seem impossible didn't even I didn't even enter my brain be like [ __ ] going in the moon and all of a sudden he was just next to me going I'm gonna [ __ ] do it and I was just thinking like well [ __ ] if he can try it I'm gonna try it so if I don't run into him and if he doesn't have the balls to say I'm gonna try it then I'm just [ __ ] hanging out with other knuckleheads like me drinking then then all of a sudden I'm 30 and where the [ __ ] am I you know so but do you believe like in like a destiny like you believe that if that wouldn't have happened someone else would have happened or do you believe like it I don't believe in destiny because of tragedy right I don't think that anybody's destiny is there the hey thank god you're not this person I just think you get lucky you get lucky it's it's like a half-court shot I would say in a lot of wait well maybe it's not that it's it's do you think it's like partly luck and partly men of stationed like if you really want something you're gonna create the path for it and it can and it can go in many directions yeah but I also feel like and there's also tragedy which is yeah unavoidable and unpredictable the tragedy of where you're born right what you look like what race you are what part of the world you're in like how lucky I was to be a white guy born in USA you know what I mean and how lucky I was to be born outside of Boston had this crazy insane scene there's like a lot of like you know hurdles that were like this big fan even then even then because of all the [ __ ] that even does even if you get that much of a head start all of this other [ __ ] that can emotionally [ __ ] you up can you know I mean I think by the time I was like nine I had already just sort of like I had that yeah I don't give a [ __ ] I don't give a [ __ ] I don't yeah I just didn't give a [ __ ] like anybody and and but I did you know what I mean and then that's all your work to get back to that person who did care and did want stuff you just as a defense mechanism you just like I don't give a [ __ ] oh really is that gonna happen no and then then one of that's supposed to what make me cry [ __ ] you like I became that person which is it's it works as far as to get through that [ __ ] but as far as getting anything that you [ __ ] want in life we have to be open and warm and in a track stuff to you that you want and you're over there with you oh yeah I don't give a [ __ ] [ __ ] you really four hundred pounds in my chest put five hundred I don't give a [ __ ] doing that dumb guys [ __ ] yeah there's like yeah it's just yeah that's that that's the thing when you're sitting there and it [ __ ] Boston Garden going how to [ __ ] if I didn't meet this guy if that guy didn't say that if I went out that night went with those people and did that you just think of all of that [ __ ] what if [ __ ] and there's somebody who went out that night went with those people and then they [ __ ] sitting in a cubicle or a jail cell or in a [ __ ] loveless marriage or something and then just like wine if that that's somebody's destiny to be in a loveless marriage it's like I just I don't yeah and Karma's another one I don't buy into I think karma works if you if you believe in it what do you how do you define kama that basically if you're a good person good things happen to you but if you're bad person no that's not what kama is though but in my world it is but comment if you like kama simply means cause and effect so okay well if you do good things then no it's not about good or bad you feel like I'm in school you know no but you do it you don't you just give me the F and all those summer school like you you you do an action and it causes a result right it's as simple as that that's all kama means it's like getting a Satanist people thinks that you believe in the devil and people really just like Satanism or whatever they don't even believe in a heaven or hell or a devil right it's just they just living for themselves and everybody's oh they're into the devil so I always thought combos like if you're [ __ ] this hole then bad [ __ ] happens to you and I know in my business I'd watch these [ __ ] people stealing and doing all this [ __ ] and just look at them and be like well you know good you know nothing's Bad's happening them and I've done a bunch of bad [ __ ] and like over all my life is good but I you know I've heard a lot of people and [ __ ] so no and it just it just simply means that you do an action and it creates a result so all these people are using that term incorrectly yes I just put it in a script incorrectly f is for family well it's correct in that because like a lot of people think that's what it what it is but like when you go to the roots of what comma is it just simply means like you do an action that's cause and effect I saw somebody somebody follow an Instagram they had a picture of a boomerang and it said karma on it so that's actually wrong oh my god I wish I knew the real definition then I could have been that pompous ass on the internet being like actually none of you guys that's like one time I saw this guy talking about how he didn't have white privilege and his idea that he didn't have white privilege because he wasn't born rich and he had to work for the things that he had so his idea is that white privilege just means you're born on a yacht and all of this [ __ ] [ __ ] it's like no that's not what that means that means at no point will you with because of your seating just get pulled over for being white get this [ __ ] kicked out of you you know and and all of these other things that would have happened to you you just you basically because you had to work for things you feel you're not privileged so literally his definition was privilege I always give you any more details of it I'll tell you afterwards all right how do you how do you deal with like um internet troll II type people like have you ever struggled with that or wanted to interact with people like that early on I did but not it has nothing to do with me yeah yeah it has nothing to do the amount of [ __ ] that I hate that really just has to do with me and my day right that I do and other people do that - I don't think um you know any different than they are but like yeah I don't give a [ __ ] I don't have to be a specific thing that I did and I thought it was bad - and then everybody said you shouldn't have done that blah blah blah I don't think I don't know what but if it's just like you know you know so much of whatever you post isn't about what you posted it's about what's in the background oh my god that's [ __ ] great but what's up with that [ __ ] picture on the wall laughing my ass off like that's like but what I learned after a while is like that's their moment right on the thread right like I'm gonna be the guy that notices the thing that starts and then everybody's talking about what I wanted to talk about and then it's just a weird thing where you feel good but like I I I do the same thing if I send out a tweet and it gets a bunch of retweets and like sigh my god people thought that was funny so I'm just on the other end of it so I just learned like I can't get upset that somebody is noticing something in this and now they're doing that little show like who the [ __ ] am I it's like you don't want so I'm going to do that don't post something on there and I just look at like listen you don't want people saying a bunch of bad [ __ ] about you don't put your face on the Internet it's like you're literally asking for it you're sticking your chin out yeah and they're winding up and punching you and then you're acting like victim it's like well you [ __ ] don't post [ __ ] just sit there like this or you know post it take a few shots and continue on I guess as a musician like I will firstly like as an instrumental musician there's nothing anybody can say about like what I'm saying I'm not expressing an opinion I'm just playing notes right but then now I've just put out an album of songs with lyrics and there's only been three alright no what I'm saying is that in the context of the song and I'm very much expressing like stories that are personal but like to go out there as a comedian and like express really strong opinions like I can't imagine like the difference in like the kind of feedback that you get and what people do is you have to understand that what they do is they don't like I've always said it's like you can do 80 jokes in a row and someone will sit there laughing and enjoying your set and then the 80 first one has to do something about them it's a fat joke and they're fat right if it's about women and they're a woman or it's about this state and they're from there and then all of a sudden yeah it's funny is think that then they go that statement you made about Arkansas and it's just like no no they were also they are all jokes except for the one right you don't mean so there's this this that you know there's just that that thing I just II I don't pay it any mind and yep there was ever any sort of big dust-up about something I said if I actually looked at and thought I said something wrong I'd be like I well maybe I'll phrase it a different way but like I I do think it's absolutely ridiculous that people get offended about a joke that was told at a show that they weren't at this is taken so out of context and you know you wanted to show yeah and you chose to click on that thing and the tears another thing - if the comedian didn't film it and post it yeah if just some [ __ ] [ __ ] in the crowd did get mad at them yeah and it's just like well what the [ __ ] are you doing if you're this easily offended about stand-up comedy what are you doing watching watching stand-up comedy the whole thing is so like I just saw I think was in Australia like the first mammal when stinks due to glue fumin global warming and barely barely a word about it but like all of this [ __ ] you know [ __ ] you know it's more difficult to be a comedian if you're a woman [ __ ] me too it's all about us and what we're going through and blah blah blah blah and all of this [ __ ] and just meanwhile all of that pales in comparison to you know if this [ __ ] place is in here you're not gonna have to worry about any of that right that's why I think that the cellphones are super destructive like because they are making everything about me me me look what I'm doing look like where I am look what I'm eating it so and and we're on it constantly and it's like whoa did you see Chris D'Elia Eufaula did you see his thing that he did the the unfollowing No oh my god it's one of my favorite things ever he's talking about just making fun of Instagram models I mean I can do it I don't feel like I'm doing this joke because he put it out there he goes look he goes if you're on Instagram it goes and your posts and stuff you're just taking a picture of your booty and your titties he goes make no mistake you hook it and he just starts calling them hookers and and you know and then he just starts really like something some of these people I don't even know [ __ ] exist it I guess this thing that pretty girls do with a bite into a sandwich and they kind of look up like that right saying like yeah yeah that I'm gonna start this thing called the unfollowing and what I love about it is first of all I'm seeing him turning the corner as a comedian cuz he was always just he just had that this guy is a like a [ __ ] closer you know and now he's getting he's like fine in his like like this razor because he was always kind of fun and energetic and stuff and but now it's it's like it's like it's becoming this you seeing this force going in this direction like I was [ __ ] cry and laugh like nighttime nothing very few things along those lines make me laugh and it's just really [ __ ] was making me laugh but the funniest thing about that is that would really bother somebody like that we're like yes because they're living not that I would want to hurt those people because it's very easy to hate beautiful people you know what I mean it just is they're very hateable as you're staring at them because you hate yourself like why am i this [ __ ] obsessed with like this beauty and all of this stuff like look at you got like I gotta [ __ ] through nine hours of [ __ ] specials to get half as many followings as you do because you wore a [ __ ] half shirt you know so I just there was just something funny to just finally see a movement to make their numbers go down I don't know the more I'm saying this out loud I'm actually realizing that it's kind of says more about me than about those people that take those pictures but it's I don't know I just thought it was it that [ __ ] is funny so I'm actually watching that girl at the gas station I'm gonna try to take like this morning I didn't have my phone you know when I spent the entire like two and a half hours ahead with my daughter this morning chased her around we play with the puzzles I read the books what else did we do was teach her how to play catch and I think she's gonna throw at the left hand which would be really cool although she's really big with the Darryl Dawkins over-the-top sort of two-handed slam I know you're not gonna know that reference you play for the 76ers before you were born so I'm trying to get her not to be into stuff like that but the weird thing is is because they're so hyper with their energy and all you want to do is just hold them and hug them the best way to do that is if you put on their favorite cartoon and then they just totally snuggle up next to but then there's no interaction other than the physical because then you just you're literally saying like hey hey hey you know give me a kiss give me a kiss and they'll go like I'll just sort of lean into you and not even look at you just give you the cheek and they just sort of lasered into that and I'm like I don't know I watched a lot of TV I did all right in life the [ __ ] you're gonna do it allowed to watch TV and look at you a [ __ ] talented or and I'm up there just screaming yelling like a lunatic where can people get this album anyway yeah listen to music can they download it on iTunes yeah Spotify I don't think it sure thing's gonna be set up on this podcast than that yeah I can't cuz my [ __ ] computer's filled up and I forget my password all the time well I just want to congratulate you because I know you've worked so hard on this yeah it's just assembling a band and all of that type of stuff like there's so much more work to this where I just like I need to know write a new hour I don't have to find a mic stand guy and all of this [ __ ] I just have to go out and just go do it but whatever you did the three songs that I listen to I mean it is just it's on such a high level creativity and everything I'm really happy for you and everybody watching listening because there are is gonna be some clips of this on video please download and it is called love remain love remains alright thank you for coming on I was gonna ask you how do you stop doing ohms and Oz and your nose and [ __ ] like that how do i ya know I don't I do it all just do it all the time why cuz I get something no cuz you do it I do it so much oh I do it too oh you do and you don't care no no I don't give a [ __ ] do you listen to uh Keith Richards TMJ people can't understand him he doesn't give a [ __ ] but like what about when you're doing material I guess because you've written the material that's gonna be less of that because you know what you're about to say as opposed to if you're just doing a podcast if I was actually trying to work on something like that then I would be up here which is not where I wanted right yeah I want to be it's just coming down the rain spout and out my [ __ ] would that be like considered technique for a comedian to like at some point work on that yes it would where is like with like I learned when I started taken from lessons from Davey Lich how many like how much you know of the way I was playing was getting in the way of me getting to where I wanted to be with whatever because my my technique I was like sitting like this and I was grabbing the sticks like that was getting blisters and and I like I wasn't making gravity anything had to do with physics work for me so I was literally fighting the drumkit and then he taught me all of this stuff I've seen him in a couple of months and I'm going back to my bad old habits but there is that thing I think that like Y will say with like a musician it's like I want to learn how to read man I just want to you know I just want to [ __ ] be this you know free [ __ ] thing right and just there is merit in that because you do have those people who only can play if there's sheet music in front of them but if you can somehow marry both of those where you actually have technique but you can still play from here yeah and not be up there I think that that's like the promised land and I always kind of felt is a comedian if you could somehow combine Richard Pryor that specially did live in concert on Long Beach if you could combine that with George Carlin where his stuff was just like I feel like he knew every [ __ ] word that he was going to say and it was like yeah just like up up up up up up up the whole time where Pryor you know on that special came walking out it was like a hell gig there was people walking around and [ __ ] and he just started making fun of people and I think the way he was wired that helped him that helped him better than if everyone was just sitting there staring at him like okay begin your your stand-up special I think that he came out and you know sit yo ass down you know sit your [ __ ] ugly ass down what all that stuff that he was saying and everyone's just walking around he's riffing and then he just just got in a zone and what's amazing you know is he began to his own usually that'll last for like six minutes because what happens up to six minutes of that is you're like you'd start worrying going what happens when this ends and I have to go into my act I'm gonna be [ __ ] and you you can't think that because that it's almost like when you ever try like meditating yeah yeah so you know like when you start to feel like you're floating and like leaving your body if you start thinking oh my god this is great Ilia and then you right back down so that's the same way with like like catching a stone so like what I've learned a little I know about technique with like drums is you just practice a little bit every day and then when it starts to become this thing you don't have to think about then all those skills you learned about sort of leaving your body and just like just like I mean your body's there but you're you're listening to what you're playing that's making you do that next thing if you can exist you can go back there with all this technique now you're not gonna get hurt you're not gonna get tired I'm eventually will but like so I think what the comedian if if I was to try to do that like okay maybe I won't curse as much or something like that like I that would definitely be a few steps backwards by that man maybe it would help me I don't know I I don't think I don't think okay cuz if I go up there and I start doing that it's all about not being here um I mean I said I'm obviously thinking like okay I'm gonna it's more like okay you okay just walk out I just start talking and then this joke comes out and then I said this joke which made me think oh yeah I have this joke and look at this [ __ ] guy and then it just sort of just oh now we're over here and just you just do you have a like a set list of jokes like you want to do it in this order or this order yeah but that is all out the [ __ ] window the second I go up there oh yeah and so well some nights it goes like that and then other nights like I definitely have like sections but this some nights I just go out there and all of a sudden I tell the last joke first and I'm switching everything around and then the guy I taught it to go on stage going like dude I don't know what the [ __ ] was going on oh you did you close a bit in the middle is like way he's only doing 35 minutes and then you went on you did like another you know whatever another 25 after that or something I have like the main setlist you know so that's the you know this is the plan the general [ __ ] plan and then go out there and [ __ ] happens you're in a weird mood some he says something's you look at something in the back of the room that makes you think of something and then it go it goes in that direction and and I am a full believer of doing that because then it doesn't become this grind because I used to I used to have I start with this and then that leads to this and I have my Segway zip up right and it just became like you know it's rigid yeah and then I would be on stage and my mouth would be talking and I would find myself thinking about going like well the second show if the headliner lets me not close it out I could probably be home by and then I was just like yeah and then I'll say like wait I'm talking right now and people are laughing and I'm thinking about other [ __ ] what the [ __ ] am i doing right now and I uh it's weird I learned how to free myself up through why more through watching musicians I've always equated it to music because that's something that I sort of started with so I always thought I remember talking to a long time ago late great Patrice O'Neal and I said I was telling him I was like you know I always wish I could see somebody cuz I couldn't gauge how good you were you know you can't see how good you are how much you're improving cuz you're you you know what I mean you're just in there so I always said I always wanted to I wish I could just have somebody sit down and play guitar at the level of comic that I am right now it's like could they change chords could they play without looking could they solo like where am I on that trajectory it's one of the few times he didn't give me any [ __ ] he was just like honey cuz that's actually interesting then probably I reacted to that and then he probably trashed me because he actually opened up for half a second so yeah fascinating fascinating nuts and bolts of how to tell dick and [ __ ] jokes will continue after these messages from stamps calm and now for a bill buzz theme song oh I get a theme song out of this I would have thought it would have been on like a ukulele some sort of Irish jig song do they play ukuleles out there I don't know you have to play though seriously I have to play yeah why do I have to because I'm gonna sing your theme song then you have to tell a joke I have to tell a joke well why do I have to do my hobby do you know what I mean what am i playing do crack I don't have any your [ __ ] jump okay so to play it really softly play it really softly is that pianoforte hey could you just can you just just make sure you do the [ __ ] huh the [ __ ] yeah I learned how we're gonna [ __ ] in the end all right yeah [Music] [Music] that's all I get no no no one's gonna keep oh I didn't know okay you don't [ __ ] like this is so simple yeah let me see what if you add yes I'll be like welcome to Bill best Monday morning podcast on a Thursday afternoon welcome to build buzz Monday morning podcast on a Thursday afternoon yeah I can't be like it's like it's like triple is like how your brain works my brain doesn't do that occasionally don't do that but not really [Music] [Music] that's how Destin that's the [ __ ] [Music] [Applause] like a soldier between [Music] he's [Music] [Music] but I [Music]

Channel: Bill Burr

Views: 671,279

Keywords: burr, billburr, talwilkenfeld, Bill burr, bill burr podcast, bill burr comedy, bill burr rant, bill burr ramble, monday morning podcast, mmpc, tammp, bill burr on, bill burr standup, April, April 2019, 4-25-19, bassist, tal wilkenfeld

Id: 2il_qRwALrQ

Length: 73min 16sec (4396 seconds)

Published: Sun Apr 28 2019