Thom Reed Answers The Behavior Panel’s Questions About The Berkshires UFO

hi there usually the behavior panel will take a piece of video we'll chop it up and then we'll talk about what we see in that person's behavior that we're supposed to be analyzing right we're not doing that today what we're going to do today is um we're talking to two different people but pretty much at the same time in one section of the video and this video is long it's really long as long because we've been really selfish in this this isn't for the regular old viewer who like really likes the kind of stuff we do that's not what's going on here what you're going to see here is a there's an interrogation and you're going to see um we'll ask a question and then we're going to be quiet and we're going to sit there and you're going to get bored watching this hitting it you're going to get tired of it you're going to move on that's fine but i'm telling you ahead of time that's what's happening we're trying to elicit information from these two people because we saw them on unsolved mysteries on the berkshires ufo incident that's on netflix so what we wanted to do after watching that we believed him we believed what they were saying as we watched it i was like i don't see anything wrong greg was like i don't see anything mark said i don't see anything either and chase said i see nothing so we did one on uh jane green earlier and then after that we get we all got an email from this guy named tom reed and he's and he's the guy that's in you'll see him in a few minutes if you'll watch this for a second and he's in he's in the berkshires ufo incident on netflix he said look i'll talk to you if you want to talk to me about it so this guy says look there's four people who are going to profile me my body language and they do it professionally for a living and i'll go talk to them and i say i've seen a ufo so we were like yeah we want to talk to you man so that's what you're going to see you're going to see us talk to him and his mother because she was in it as well and we believed her when we saw it as well and we talked to them and you're going to see an interrogation again it's not the kind you see on tv it's not where's the girl where's the kid none of that but this is one form of interrogation i can't tell you all the details about how we go about doing this you know some people who are interrogating will say yeah that's that's normal but you're going to find it horrifically boring if you're used to seeing or you want to see what we usually do okay just so you know it's a little long but it has to be that's that's the way it is that's and in the real world it takes a while to get someone to tell you things and to get information from the information you need so that's what we're going to be doing it's going to be boring this is what we usually do and uh that's why we need to let you know ahead of time that this is different than what you're used to seeing so there you have it and here we go like i told you i'm so pale when i take my shirt off i'm so pale you can see my heart like a newborn fish this haircut makes me look like i'm a 1950s bible salesman who just walked out of the town you know how to you've now had it [ __ ] amber did that fresh i just cut mine good hey chase take a big hit off that and blow it out and go welcome to the behavior panel no because you're going to record it and put it into some video that would be for us no just take a big hit off and go welcome on chase hughes this is the behavior panel [Music] here we go i'm scott rasmus body language expert analyst i train law enforcement in the military in interrogation and body language and i'm also a trial consultant chase hey i'm chase hughes i teach behavior profiling and interrogation also develop tactics and techniques for our intelligence agencies and i've written a number one bestselling book on non-verbal communication mark mark bowden expert in human behavior and body language help people all over the world to stand out when trust gain credibility every time they speak i've written four books on human behavior and body language greg i currently am a former army interrogator army interrogation instructor resistance to interrogation instructor i've written a few books on body language and behavior and i primarily spend my time with wall street and corporate america today usually what we do is we have a video we analyze it we tell you the body body language we see and we did one on jane green when we after we watched the unsolved mysteries uh berkshire's ufo uh incident after we did that after we put that one out we got we all got an email from tom reed and he's the guy that's on the the covered bridge out there on on the show that tells what what was going on during that and so we talked to him he's going to be our guest today so greg why don't you introduce tom tell us a little about what we're gonna how we're gonna approach this today yeah so tommy and i have had a few conversations and tom reed is going to be our guest today he was when he was nine years old if i recall correctly tom was one of the people in the show this unsolved mystery show and he was with his mother and his brother and his grandmother traveling across a bridge and we won't take any thunder from what he's going to tell you the way we're going to approach this is we're going to listen to tom's story ask a few questions as we go and hear all the details and facts that tom has to share with us and his mother nancy is nancy correct dancing yeah yeah his mother may join us for a few minutes as well [Music] okay so thanks for having me guys i appreciate it i'll let you introduce yourself and then i'll just get you started so tom please introduce yourself okay um well i um i grew up in the berkshires southern berkshires um until i was about um i was 18 years old my mother had a diner in town which um is now renowned in the in the area and i grew up with horses and uh i uh funny thing is when i had the horses i wanted a dirt bike or a mini bike and then i ended up getting the dirt bike and i wanted the horse's back so that's never a greener on the other side tom you and i share the horse thing we said yesterday the only problem with the horses they eat when you're sleeping you know that's right so yes when this thing happened to you tell me a little bit about that horse let folks get to know who you are and what you did with your horse and that kind of stuff just like when i almost fell yeah yeah okay so i was riding um at a horse show a 4-h horse show in uh great barrington which is uh was held at ski butternut and uh yeah i was um probably i was nine and uh we were using a a horse that i wasn't used to riding it was a larger horse and um when they put the saddle on it apparently it was gassy or whatever so the stomach was a little bigger than normal and uh i was in a competition and i was going full speed and i had a thing in a full gallon and all of a sudden the saddle started to slide to this off to the side of the horse i'm grabbing the mane because i'm like this you know i couldn't even stop the horse and uh there must have been 20 or 30 other horses and i was somewhat up front you know the better part of it and um yeah by by the time i just felt these hands grab me and and slide it back up and took me out of the out of the race um you know that that was why we left ski butternut and started heading home that night that we saw this uh we were involved in what we were and um yeah that uh scared me quite a bit i didn't go on a horse for a while after that i mean i was actually shook up on that but uh so uh with what um happened back in in sheffield i i wanted a camera my mother was like what do you want for you know your birthday or christmas or whatever it was and um i told her i wanted a camera and um because if we ever saw this thing again i was gonna get a picture of it and so my mother got me one of those little polaroids we had to wait three minutes and you pulled the thing out and you watched you know um you rip the paper off of it and uh and uh and so that was kind of what believe it or not um fueled my career because i got into the photography club in great barren high school and then i started shooting a fashion runway in hartford and then um i became a stage manager for uh northeast concerts and i was working with some bands uh john kaye from steppenwolf and um and then i started shooting for st and fashion shows you know say gentlemen you know was a store in the new england area and um i met uh danny gilgallo who was uh with penthouse form in new york city and i was trained on slide film and studio lighting and uh so then i went to miami and and over uh probably about five or six years of shooting for other agencies i opened up my own agency and it was quite successful and i had the five year package campaign for those diapers and i was working on a lot of uh staffing a lot of the um girls and tv shows like csi miami and i became a one of the booking agents for the miami dolphins and had season tickets to that so miami was kind of more my home than anywhere else until uh about 2006 when um i decided to get a fresh start and move over to the tennessee area which to me was more of a warmer new england so it kind of felt more at home and that's kind of why i'm here okay cool well thank you for that thank you for the introduction get to know you a little bit everybody here will have a different thing so i'd like to shift gears then let's talk a little bit about the incident in 1969 and rather than me say and then what and then when then what but let's just let you tell us about that night because this happened after your horse show incident i think right yeah we uh we had left ski butternut and uh we were heading to um well we were actually going to a place called the meadows for by and um rather than our diner my mother didn't want to cook and the diner was actually somewhat close at that point and uh so we had a burger and um it was uh probably uh about 8 30 or so and my mother said well let's go back to the diner and close up and she had to make a night deposit drop and that kind of thing put the chairs up for the next morning and get it ready and um so we pulled into the back actually near the dumpster we came in the back door and um i was sitting on the the stool and my mother was uh was uh working in the cash cash register my grandmother was um helping them you know put the chairs up and and we were we weren't there that long but uh enough that um it was getting dark and so my mother went next door to the bank and dropped the money in the slot it was a bank it's still in sheffield to this day and we started head home and uh we got in the station wagon and we were pulling out of the the the green there and went up about a mile or so and what took a shortcut over the bridge was that uh unusual for you to take a shortcut across the bridge um yeah we normally went down kellogg you know i don't know why we she went that way i know she really liked the uh the drive but it was too dark to really see anything anyway um but we did we took a shortcut and you know it was it's very new england the bridge the old club i don't know maybe because i was almost trampled that day you know maybe i don't know she was just feeling a little bit differently i can't i don't know why we look that way and um but anyway we came into the bridge and the headlights the way the headlights were reflecting with the boards and everything my grandmother had later on mentioned that she saw what she thought was a different bleed of light coming to the boards uh the planks at the bottom of the bridge and um but that was something she mentioned afterwards and as we came out the other side um you know i've mentioned a million times i was giving my my brother a candy which caused my grandmother to turn around and look in our direction and um and that's when we saw what looked like a white sphere it was just uh i'm guessing maybe four times the size of a volkswagen beetle and it was solid and uh so when you say you saw it where exactly in relation to you did you see that it was basically right out my window it was right there i mean it was a time we were driving forward so yes of course we it went to the back but i saw it like within probably 50 yards from where it was and you know i've mentioned that you know that it looked like it was coming from the water or the banks of the water i don't really know where it came from but when i saw it it was rising up a little bit and started to go behind a tree line and we mother kept driving forward and my brother had looked to the right and saw something that looked very similar but orange in color and uh so she drove a little further down the road and she pulled off to a near telephone pole and how far do you think she drove oh maybe uh 30 yards 40 yards to the clearing just the other side of the tree did you hear anything no i didn't hear anything any burning scent smell anything else no nothing it was like it was quiet i mean we matter of fact it was almost dead quiet it was almost too quiet okay near anything you know i mean it was like i mentioned it was like being under water it was just like muffled and uh and you would have thought you would have heard something you would have heard birds would have heard something nothing i mean it was dead silent and i could i was looking at this thing while it was dead silent and it was just like and as crazy as it sounds it seems like once we came out the other side that bridge things were changed i mean the atmosphere the everything was just different were you all talking to each other during this while that weird feeling was happening to be honest with you i don't remember but i'm sure we were because it was hot the windows were open uh my brother was sitting next to me it was late i almost got trampled i had a a green ribbon and a brown ribbon which i was pretty upset about and uh and so i'm sure we were but we were also tired um i i can't really remember but i can't imagine we weren't you know um but i do remember just nothing nothing and uh and just seeing this thing and as i said my mother pulled off to the right and uh we looked out the window and and uh there it was i mean it looked like a turtle show i mean it really took me looked like a turtle shell it had um different it looked to have different lines or patterns to it and the right side of it was a different shade than the left the right seem to have like goldish tints or a computer or a bronze color into it it was not one solid color it didn't come to a point it had a big band around the front of it almost it looked it's it looked like a snake is it it looked like a snakeskin around the middle of it like a tire and it was very it was fat it was wide so the top was very small from the top up and smaller from the top down the middle was the fatter part of it and we looked at it i'm everything kind of went uh um you know from quiet i remember um i've talked about little sounds of stones tapping underneath the front fender wall of the cars we came to a stop um after that everything seemed somewhat muted uh then there was the car lit up there was an eruption of crickets and frauds and canadians did you leave the car or were you in the car the whole time well no i just stayed in the car i mean as far as i know um it was uh it was a powerful night man um but uh we're pretty shaken about for for a long time we're very shaken about that you know but i also have weird memories of um you know that night of things that i saw or recall or which are very difficult to talk about i don't talk about it for a lot of reasons i try to stay very palatable um but there were a lot of things that we came back with that night i do remember being in what looked like a large open area like a walmart if you were empty out of walmart you know just empty um big open area which was much larger than what we saw and that's why i say to people you know people say to me you know were you on a craft i'm like no you know i don't think i was i mean i've never said that i was um i was somewhere we were extracted from the vehicle all four of us were remember different clips and moments of fragmented memory of what happened but you know we uh we don't know where we were um a lot of time went by when we found ourselves back in the vehicle my grandmother was now in the driver's seat the car was off we didn't shut the car off when my mother stopped that car it was running and the lights were on you know we didn't she never shut the car off and we just sat there and looked at this thing it was running and um so my grandmother found herself in the driver's seat she goes down to dirt road she turned around and went back to town because we're only a mile from town where our house was about seven miles from there and she went back for help and we had no idea or she at the time had no idea how much time had passed and so she went to silks when she got out of the car she believes the car door slammed which woke me which was something else we all came to at different times you know i was the second one to wake up from this thing my brother's head was on my leg um my mother was out she wasn't responding so i followed my grandmother into silks we went in the front door she went right past the clerk and um and she went back and she went right back to the back of the store and got like caught up in these bikes and strollers and things that were in there i'm grabbing her hand saying nana nana i remember that and um the the clerk you know was looking at my grandmother she's i stopped for a minute i don't remember everything but but um she never really asked for help for anything and we went back outside my mother was standing in front of the car so your grandmother drove after when she when you came back to your grandmother was in that seat and she's the one who drove away when i'm sorry when we drove to silks yeah yeah she drove my grandmother my mother was driving originally and after the incident my grandmother was in the driver's seat which is another thing to me speaks of human error which is hard for me to get my head around this is why it's so confusing right so when you went into the store when you the silk's place what time of the night was it uh it was just before they were closing probably quarter of 11. okay and i don't know silks i'm assuming it's some kind of department store or something like that oh it's a little mom-and-pop shop okay and so what exactly when you went in the door who was there who was still there just uh a guy guy running it um one of the owners probably okay and your grandmother just went in and had she you were saying she got tangled up in something yeah she walked in the front door and she walked right to the back of the store right to the back so when you when you were and and guys you're welcome to chime in here as we go but when you're when you were stopped and you had all of this encounter where were you in the car which okay yeah were you sitting in the car yeah where were you sitting in the car right behind the driver's seat okay and my brother was to my right and my grandmother was to the in front of my brother and my mother was driving and when you came back the first thing you remember when you when you first remember i assume it was already left the space yeah we were already back at silks my grandmother was already out of the car so she was the only one awake yes so you're back at silks did you start how could well silk store is you know you could hit silks from our diner with a frisbee small town it's right there yeah i mean okay okay i didn't know it sounds like you'd been there twice i didn't get that part of it so let me let me ask you this when you when you were in this this thing that seemed like a building that wasn't a spaceship or whatever did you see these the other people with you did you see them or anyone else in there that's a good question too because i um like i said i've got little memories of things um i uh i remember hearing voices i remember hearing my mother's voice crying or you know calling out for me i've said but then again i can't swear it was her voice but i do remember hearing voices um while you stood there yeah actually i was sitting um in a chair or just on the floor yeah i was sitting on something that was fairly low to the floor um i had uh this is where it gets really confusing for me it's hard to digest because it sounds so bizarre um but uh you know i can't help the memories i can't it's been with me my whole life and what i remember seeing i've never seen before i never saw it beforehand i never saw it afterwards you know what i mean i remember things vividly and we all do you know and that's what makes it so tough but do i remember um i remember markings on the floor like swirl marks i remember hearing my mother's voices i remember um seeing uh we weren't alone there um you know i remember that like very well do you know you're talking about this space that you're in that you didn't think looked like a craft or whatever it was like a building smells sounds sights anything you remember what do you remember about it i remember seeing a wall that looked glass it kind of bowed like a coffee can it was rounded um i remember uh very tall hallways how tall well again i was small but um i'm gonna guess maybe 10 to 12 feet high were you walking down the hallways or you just saw them from where you was by my left arm and i was kind of not nicely brought from one spot to another it was very abrupt they drug you i don't know i mean they dr they're dragging you is what i mean yeah i was grabbed on my left arm and whoever the individual was was somewhat behind me and moving me forward like this and took me out of the door um i remember going to the right took me down a hallway and when i got to the end of the hallway i was it went left again and um i was brought into a room so were there were there bricks on the walls or was just one color wall or that was all just white everything looked white tonight so there was no light i did see a couple lights in the ceiling where the ceiling met the wall almost looked like a fluorescent tube i remember some carts that reminded me of what we used to put our projector on in sheffield center school so it was kind of a lot of carts empty space singular tube lights um nothing so i got a question for you so you know you know how and you'll know this if you get nudged by a horse you can really feel that it was a horse that nudged you rather than a human being yeah like they feel they have a different rhythm when you were being moved what did it feel like was moving you it it felt uh i was grabbed hard it hurt by what what grabbed you it's uh again you know um i i'd like to say a a person you know um an individual um you feel like like a human hand oh it was yeah but it was it was hard it it was like around my whole arm so um and it was dark it was dark in that particular area until i went out in the hallway um you know the whole thing is very difficult um to really put myself there again you know um but i can the area or the spot that where i was grabbed where these carts were reminded me a lot of an airplane hangar and my mother and father were pilots so that's kind of i gotta this is how i put it together you know um it did remind me of an airplane hanger but when i was taken out the other side and through this door and i was abruptly you know removed if you will um that hurt um i don't remember seeing the person for whatever reason um i just remember being nervous being scared i remember being escorted and um and taken from one spot to another and so when you when you went through the door did the door open did you open the door was there a door no it was just open it was a very it was uh it was a pretty wide door i guess all things considered but it wasn't the kind that does that does this number where it's swinging honestly i don't remember seeing i i don't remember seeing the door i remember seeing an opening and that's where i was taken out so when you when you went through the door and you said there's a hall where did you go i mean when you let's assume the door's in front of you when you went into the hall where did you go next well i was escorted okay it's not bad i i went straight and then to the right and then we went down maybe i say we um maybe uh 15 to 20 feet an immediate left no no angled cornered stuff it was lefts and rights it was very sharp okay it wasn't like high-tech that's another thing that's confusing so when i got to the end i was taken to the left we were taken into a room and the room i was taken into had a very bowed in glass looking area um say we who do you mean whoever escorted me okay so okay so then when you went to the room with the bowed glass what happened there i was sat on a table um and i was staring at the glassed in wall and i um and this is something else too because one minute i'll go from feeling or at least remembering i was sitting there i was cooperating those i was whatever and then all of a sudden i ran so i think i went from feeling very nervous just to uh you know calm to scared to my i think my fields were all over the place and i think that's probably one reason i remember it because it was emotional to me but i ran i actually ran out the side of this this room into a hallway that's when i walked into this you know large area and i had no idea where to go and i was grabbed again i was brought back in i mean that's as crazy as that freaking sound so that's that's what happened you know i don't know why i don't know what caused it i don't know where i was but you know that's what happened so when the cricket started when the uh did that start when the um did it start slowly or was like a switch coming out or did it gradually start someone had we came out the bridge it was like someone had flipped the switch off on life itself everything was muted except for a tapping sound which sounded like stones underneath their car um and then lit up and boom everything just seemed to come to life again how far away was that other that orange thing from you when you when it started how far away was that um 80 yards a little less than a football field actually about a football field and it was a lot smaller it looked smaller yeah and it was over the water everything was over water the craft was over some water though the big white sphere was over water and the orange one's over it was all thriving over the water what did you all say when you first saw these these objects you know my recollection i just remember being fixated and staring at it just locked on it you know excuse me um it was uh you know to see this thing move and and to and then stop and uh and to to witness something like that and and to be part of that and just you know you're sitting there what is it what is it and at the same time you kind of know maybe what it is a little bit but you're it's and then it just moves the way it does and you're like you know you can't take your eyes off and what did you say after all of this when when people were waking up and you know what what do you remember is the first thing that anybody said you said or anybody said to you honestly i don't remember i don't i think that we were all just fixated and locked on on what was happening my brother was the one turning his head my brother was the one going back and forth um for a moment there you know um because for whatever reason he something caught his attention off to the right which was that orange ball um but for me i was i was actually at the time i was looking for the white that white sphere um and it was really i i think it was my mother that saw the crap first but the thing about the craft too the disc it wasn't like it was hidden that well it was night right i mean it was like it was dark but you could see it so it was like the shell kind of had a sheen to it there was a light underneath it um the white ball you couldn't you couldn't miss that after all of this after all of these events what was the first thing that you heard somebody say i don't remember anyone saying anything i remember the next next thing i remember was going into silks and i was calling my grandmother i was grabbing her hand and she wasn't responding to me the best of my recollection she didn't even talk to the clerk then she went in there to talk to the clerk and she walked right by him and walked right to the back of the store how do you know she was going to talk to the clerk what did she say i'm going to go talk to this guy said that she went back for help and then we're talking the next day we're you know because we went to the diner we we opened up in the morning and uh and we've talked about this all our whole lives right well she went back to silks for help because no one in the car was responding and uh and the guy never came out there was no paramedics there was no officer and we just drove home i don't think any one of us were thinking clearly it seemed to me like and my brother has said this that you know he to him he feels that we were it was like a sodium pentathol or some medication or something that that you know something got into our system you know that's why we all came out of this at a different time so if you ask a lot of other people who had instances or what have you they're like oh this whole thing was like you know one minute were there one minute we're here it wasn't like that for us at all it was almost like we were drugged how much time passed between the bridge and when you first remember well we got back to silks before 11. so they were closing at 11 and we left the diner probably 8 30 or so it was just us yeah so when you were in these rooms you felt something grab your arm did you see anything any person any kind of a person in that entire time yeah i saw i saw something quite disturbing you know um so i you know i don't know why yeah um it uh looked like a bug or an ant to me with a large football shaped head which is not something i talk too much about because you know there's no point well i think the way your memory works at that age you're going to remember things a certain way for sure but as much as you're willing to share with us there we're certainly willing to listen and i appreciate it time i know that could be disturbing yeah all right i saw something that looked uh it wasn't human you know and i've said to myself well it wasn't robotic was it was it um you know genetically engineered is it you know we've had a lot of species on the planet i keep saying we've got eight million species what's up eight million and one you know i've tried to justify what we saw i tried to play with it i've tried to make sense of it i've struggled with it um but uh yeah i saw something that um was quite troubling was it tall short that was like four and a half five feet tall it was bigger than me um it looked like a bug it had a head like a football and it had um stick like legs like bamboo when i was in florida you know we had you know some bamboo and i was like that's what the legs look like to me and i've had it sketched and i've hangs it raw as well but um i certainly avoid talking about that because it's probably the only thing i cannot actually you know validate in some way and um and then again you know we thought well maybe you know there were magnetic anomalies maybe you know with our vehicle maybe there was some our neurons in our head were affected you know i struggle with why i remember these things why i saw these things um you know is it was a clear conscious memory was my mind infected by what we saw because there were three moving parts so we were in the middle of all these three moving parts there was a craft there was one of the right one on the left so if there was some type of a magnetic anomaly you know maybe that's why i um have the thoughts i do or the visions that i do or you know could have been manipulated did it ever happen you know did did you know i don't know have you had an mri since that happened uh yeah actually i have did you find did they find anything that no no my son did too actually but not that it matter he wasn't there anyway but um yeah we've you know we've um that was our car wreck in 2006. do you remember the color do you remember the color of the of those that the bug do you remember what color it was yeah how many colors was it it was like a mushroom color with a like a orangey head so the football shape it was like this this way or was it like this way like a sideways like football it was just like you know uh and if the head was bigger than a football um so the points came out here on the end like that it would go like this or it would go like this neck and the stem went up the middle of it and it had very stick like arms and legs and the body of it kind of came to a like a like a tear drop and that's what i remember in any way talk to you no no i just saw it i saw two of them actually they were facing a wall their heads were almost into the wall did they move do they have eyes or what do their eyes look like like brown just round like uh marbles so let me let me just get this straight so if it's a football it was it like this or was it like this like the tip like the mouth would have been at the tip and the in the eyes so it's sideways in other words like straight on football not not point not point up here and point up here but points on the side you know what i mean yeah i was holding the football like this when i throw you all the face would have been right there oh okay i got you that's like i said this is the one area that i i struggle with because it's like so it's not it's not the big almond shaped eyes or anything like that what did their hands look like did you see those you know i've tried to fill in some things that what i might what it might have looked like so to be honest with you i i don't really remember a lot of detail i remember the fear of it i remember sketching it i remember i i drew it and hung up hung on my class i'm sorry on a chalkboard in one of the classes i was in in fourth grade and a lot of other kids were drawing stuff too and mine was the only one that you know was a of something very different you know no sound it didn't make a sound or did it make it sound nope i don't remember that you know this my brother seems to think that there was a rhythmic feeling like that i don't really remember that too much but um then again we've all collectively talked about this a whole lot so um you know there's a lot of things like we my brother remembers like i do being on a table somewhere but we don't talk about that either because it sounds so freaking you know tabloid so in a document that that you have massachusetts state document they call it an off-world incident what do you think they mean by that well it's funny because even now we're seeing the off-world um that verbiage used in the and pentagon statements now and so i uh i don't think the governor or the state wanted to run with ufo um so i thought maybe maybe that term is something that's a little more palatable to them or something that maybe nasa is using or bigelow aerospace wherever whoever's working on this stuff all those rockets or whatever um spacecraft i i think it's a more um readily uh used term than ufo i think ufo's kind of tabloid anyway but off world i don't think that they had any idea where it came from or what it was um there were obviously when you've got this ball of light and that's what i remember more than anything was this ball of light um you know and it the way it just moved um what do you think it looks like well you know my my thinking i i believe that um and i've you know and i struggle with this a lot because i am a really grounded person okay so you know i really have a hard time with some of this but um it is what it is right um i think that and this is now you know going you know looking at it you know the housatonic river was some of the most polluted water in you know in america now it was so toxic people were um fishing out of there dogs drinking the water the corn grows enormous height there um there's something wrong with that water there's something and uh there always has been and i think anybody who knows the area knows it's a very toxic area and these things are all over water you know the ball was over water the yard was over water the craft was over water um there seems to be a connection to water so i think whatever these cylinders were had something to do with possibly drawing waters testing water extracting some water had something to do with water you know and um and i think that they were working in conjunction with the disc that was we saw further on down the road they're much smaller i mean the disc itself was like a 100 yards or so it was huge and then again i was smaller everything seems bigger but i spoke with the jan green and she kind of remembers it the same way um there uh nothing was really moving too quickly everything was kind of moving at a slower pace but but then again i think we were moving at a slower pace too um everything was muted um was was what we remember really happening in real time was it not happening in real time i mean there's so many freaking things i think about you know i mean what about those those things that were shooting off those rods you talked about now that there was uh only i believe two but when the thing rose up there was like like rods that came down and they weren't from the bottom of it they were like from the sides of it and just like poles like really direct poles and it was just for a moment or two and then i've said well maybe that you know did i see a reflection was it was a reflection of this thing off the water you know um the windows were open it wasn't gleam off the window you know but there was again there's water there's light my grandmother said there was a bleed of light earlier underneath the planks of the bridge so you know was it also giving off light and if it was and that would make sense that it wasn't actually light that it was given off you know could it have been a reflection but then if it was a reflection it had to be light to begin with so you go back and forth and you think well these poles of light i mean they were probably um i don't know maybe uh you know as round as a tire and they were very boom and they then they either went up or just dissolved and the thing rose so the same thing people talking about this craft or the other or the um the balls of light the craft those two what rose after the two spikes went down oh the the light the the sphere okay yeah yeah orange one never moved that i remember people who hear this might might be thinking to themselves so uh there was an uh an alien spacecraft you were abducted by aliens if somebody thinks that do you think they're right to think that yeah i'm thinking something else i've never once said i was abducted by aliens you know i we we encountered something we were part of something um surreal something uh and in some ways i feel like it was a privilege to see what i did it changed my views on a lot of things um you know i've always uh i've lost my faith if that makes any sense um i don't think that you know i think that we all come from uh you know we're all part of a bigger picture you know i think that uh we have about eight million species on this planet you know they're coming from somewhere um to me earth is our galaxy's arc and we're made up of a lot of different species from a lot of different places and maybe there's you know with the tainted water maybe there's a reason that you know hey you know nobody's gonna survive with tainted water right so there maybe there's an interest in that maybe there was something um life that was being taken somewhere else maybe there was life that was pretty brought down i don't know um but you know to uh i there was definitely um seemed to be some type of there was definitely an interest whether it was a mining interest of some kind but i think that we were at the wrong place at the wrong time and and we were affected by this and you know whether government was there too and extracting us from a vehicle because we were hit by something um and maybe that's where we were maybe there was a mixture of government working with some you know some species i don't know maybe i'll ask you this do you do you think you feel that way because you saw that and and somehow we're given that information but but it's just kind of stuck back there and that's what that feeling is um because that's pretty clear i've got a lot of ideas and thoughts right and i wonder where they come from because they're not like other people that i talk to which is why i keep some distance in the field to begin with i um yeah i um god i'll tell you after this happened i'm gonna answer this let me answer that by explaining something after that happened my mother had a stable on our it's still there and i used to sit on top of the stable and i would just look out and think to myself you know and look at the stuff you know the skies i would look as far as i could in the distance i was felt like i was uh off my path you know that i was meant for something else i didn't belong there um that i mean this kind of like separated me from the other kids too because i didn't want to throw the ball around and i wasn't interested in that anymore you know um you know i was very uh recruits and you know i kind of stayed to myself a little bit you know and um they wanted my camera and so i was going to get a picture of it this happened again and we were also very um you know uh felt some uh scrutiny and and that kind of thing at the diner so we were outsiders to begin with you know and um it was difficult my mom was single single mom at the time and um you know she certainly couldn't defend herself against a 250 pound drunk redneck and suspenders right so it got kind of tough you know um and so we kind of shut up about it but then again it was kind of like when you get your hair cut right you the person cutting your hair knows more about you than anyone else and so when there's only a handful of people in there you start talking about what happened again and of course reports were coming over the radio so our diner became very um known for the known for what happened and as much as we at the time tried to stop talking about it because it wasn't doing anybody any good you couldn't really it was like i said before you can't you can't jump into this with one foot right so the damage was done for lack of a better word and so you had to talk about it you had to try to clarify you know clarify but um you can't clarify something when you don't really know what happened you know and so uh it's been troubling you know it's been tough you know um but at the same time you know i look at the fact we're making some form of modern day history and for that i think there's um you know right at the end of the tunnel you know uh we feel you know uh you know with the documents that we've gotten from the state and everything that uh we've gone further than most people and um a lot of other people in town are able to talk about it and not feel so uh victimized by it or scrutinized you know there's a part there i mean for us that's for me that's that's enough you know i do think i need to write a book to preserve what happened um but then again i get two parts where i don't know what to write because i don't know what really happened um if that makes sense so i i get caught up with that and i don't want to fill in the blanks you know um but um i can say and all certainly we were we were removed from the car um we were taken somewhere um you know we were there for hours um who took us from the car i don't know the car was running when we stopped it was off we got in it my mother and grandmother were reversed um you know we had we saw stuff i can't you know for life may make sense of you know so uh it is what it is i guess you know but tom is there i mean you've told the story a lot a lot of times so i know it's it probably never gets less stressful but is there anything else is there anything that we haven't heard or somebody else may not have heard that you want to share i mean just um god well yeah i guess the uh you know looking at the positives you know looking what this has done for the topic i guess um you know we uh we've gotten two letters from the historical society you know we were inducted in the history in the state of massachusetts um you know we've got two citations from the governor there is the here's something that um this has to do with with where we stand or what we feel how we feel that we've at least gotten to a point where um you know this wasn't for nothing you know uh the case did go to the u.n did get mentioned at the united nations in support of 33 426 and there's a display in the roswell museum about that part of it we were approached by an attorney in manchester connecticut his name was robert butchman and uh he was working with mufon at the time i had no idea what refund was and this was in the late 80s and um he was the public relations director and i was working with mohamed ramadan the president of the parasitology society and um you know they were looking at the hudson river valley case and uh because the housatonic uh crafts on the housatonic river were also over water there was a connection there a dad was a lawyer and a politician or a mayor at the time acting there and um and so he was like well would you mind if we mentioned your case in conjunction with um this particular hudson road valley case to show some you know that you're uh you know you're not lawn care vehicle maintenance you know you have some you know it would be nice to mention your you know your credentials and um of course about uh 12 years later he lost his life on the same date october 7 and that was something that really fueled interest with the historical society and some other people in the area to pay tribute back to him by looking at this further and that's kind of how the whole thing snowballed and got to a point where it was that part of it's always lost you know so for me when the monument was unveiled and the whole thing i dedicated the date of my late father and um and now it's more like hey we've got a tour spot now let's move the monument out and you know we could put our hot dog wagons in there and you've got all these other people running around saying well i saw it too you know and i got hit by a light and um you know the whole thing just gets turned on its head you know it's turned into a circus but when in fact it wasn't an easy thing to go through you know we've been talking about this for our whole lives and we feel like we've gotten somewhere and we don't wanna we're not gonna get dismantled you know over um you know uh you know the uh you know the hurdles we've had to overcome you know but it's made up for a strong family you know we've got a very strong family so i would imagine it's an emotional soup that whole night what what would you tell me you felt like throughout the night i mean i doubt you had one feeling but if you had one that's okay too what did you feel like that night inspired in some respects um you know what i i remember just being completely still and just you know awestruck i don't remember feeling sick or happy i just emotionless maybe just kind of um kind of like my gun you know i mean that's what it was like i wasn't scared of anything maybe i was too young to be scared i don't know but i wasn't scared at all i um i was more uh intrigued um i uh i remember i remember seeing the thing just kind of stay still and then move to look for one you know it actually i remember at one point lowering um but uh i mean it was it was it was like a bubble you know i feel like you blew a bubble as a kid you know those little bubbles that's what it looked like a bubble with a light it was like a two white mold and it was solid it was like a sphere and this is the thing too it didn't like bleed light off the the piece itself it was almost like if you if you had a perfectly round light bulb and and it was just bright and intense and self-contained you know like if it was looking at it you could almost look like a moon if you know what i mean not that it's given off light that it's just self-contained that way i mean you know there's i've thought back and gone yeah it could have looked like a moon you know um that locked in in in that contained you know way so it wasn't um you know like a sloppy type of mix of light and whatever it was very definitive it was very jason i know you look like you've had something you want to ask a couple of times what do you got yeah thanks scott and and tom thanks for doing this by the way this is something a lot of people would absolutely refuse to do and i think there's a there's going to be a lot of people that really appreciate it and especially coming on a show like this or coming on our channel whatever it's called uh is is incredible of you so i just wanted to say i appreciate it to begin with thank you thank you thank you very much thanks for having me our pleasure for sure and uh i i wanted to ask you're pretty close to a lot of these horses that that were on your property when you were nine yeah i wrote them a lot of them did they did they treat you differently after everything happened okay um i'll let my mom answer that one okay if that's okay um she's down here um but i i i've always had a unique that's a really good question not so much with the horses although there is one incident with the horse where my my my brother i'll tell you my brother um was on a horse lost the reins and the thing was going a full gallop and he was probably he was like six it was going to fall off and i ran right in front of the horse and put my hands up and it just stopped in its tracks um not long after that i had a raccoon come up to me and my fam on her near our carriage house totally wild a wild raccoon wild raccoon and it came in the house and sat near the fireplace and i'd feed it once in a while go back out the carriage house my neighbor eventually shot it because it was eating his corn so that was again you know but would you mind if we met your mother mom you okay yeah yeah you ready there's mark mark good to meet you greg good to meet you there's greg we talked on the phone earlier oh did we okay yes i know we talked i didn't know who yes yeah i'm the guy you look to you look and i'm sure your son says this you look just as pretty on this as you did in the in the uh netflix special you just made my day thank you yeah you were you were my when i saw you on the show i was i just said we got to talk to these people because your your everything was just right on spot on everything you said i don't know what i could possibly add that thomas hasn't covered unless you have something what it's like to ask me um like after the after the incident or something like that which i probably could answer better than thomas i i heard you yeah you know from here yes so if i could ask you a question while while tom has given us lots of details he had a nine-year-old memory but you're not nine could you tell us just what you saw just five minutes just what you saw personally because i think you're edited a lot in the other you mean with the incident yes ma'am with the incident oh yeah actually uh everything tom told you was exactly right i mean uh i not heard you ask him um you know what did you say when you saw this and all that kind of thing and actually it was i have a little different spin on it in a way that i really believe we were privileged to experience something that it was a phenomenal and i don't look at it as necessarily a negative it was at the time it was awe-inspiring it was uh let me say jaw-dropping when you see something like that but i also think that we were fortunate enough like with a lot of other people to be in the right place at the right time to actually see something that very few people actually have an opportunity to experience and um so it's as disturbing as it was at the time um um i feel that in hindsight which is always not always the best way to look at things but in hindsight uh i think that we were fortunate along with about several hundred other people who had an experience also we weren't the only people um but i think um it's something that has stayed with us for a long time uh it's 51 years old actually when that's remarkable when you think about it but i also wanted to add that um i gave thomas all the credit in the world for spearheading this thing to come into light again because all the people that are still remaining that were living in the town of that area uh had had to keep quiet all this time and when he went back and revisited it uh all of a sudden now they're coming out of the woodwork or closet if you as it were uh and talking about their experiences and in lieu of the news lately and we see that now the government's going to release a lot of things that have been harsh for 50 plus years i think it gives it a lot more credibility and a lot of skeptics i think of thinking twice about it quite frankly as to the genuineness of it chase did did your questions were they did you have some a couple questions for tom but i also wanted to ask you did you have a similar experience of of traveling to to another place i'm sorry did i what yeah i think he's asking for your mom about the experience oh oh no actually um this is why i don't add a whole lot to what tom has already told you uh because once the car lit up i have very little memory until we got to silks that's that's my next memory and so no i don't have that experience of traveling at all if i did i have absolutely no memory of it on the other hand um i i don't think i probably did i don't really know um uh well what about when it when it first started when you all got into the bridge when the whole thing started what is it what is yours your side what you explain it to us this time we heard tom's version let's hear your we'd love to hear your version of it well i really as i said tom explained everything beautifully but the thing i think i remember the most at the very beginning of the incident was the bridge and the lights flashing through the slats in the bridge i remember that very well sort of a heads up something's coming you know yeah um the um uh i remember the lights i remember that the uh seeing the ship actually um and tom described that very accurately by the way how would you you describe it you tell us what you saw it was a turtle shaped type of thing with a middle band around it there were lights under it um it was huge um how big would you say huge was i'm not really good at this um thank you because i remember being big but i was really young so well like a football field would you go with that it's kind of i think the challenge would you it would fit in a dollar general or it would fit in like a super center that's a good one um who's dollar general probably walmart i think it was easily that that size i would have to go with that over the dollar general here um um and i remember the dead silence i mean that was you know recently not too long ago what was it two or three years ago we had the full eclipse okay well i remember we were all together watching the eclipse and just as the sun and moon kind of collided covered each other i should say uh everything was quiet it wasn't a sound it wasn't a chirp there wasn't a cricket there wasn't uh any sound whatsoever and then once it passed over it came again it was that's a great analogy amazing absolutely amazing um and i think that's thrilling i don't see that frightening i think that's thrilling i really do and that's i remember that vividly and then you know next i don't remember after that i was out do you remember any smells or no i don't i do not remember any smells at all any sounds other than sound in nature because this is a tremendously rural area so i mean just a normal sound you would hear on a hot summer night did you see the rods as well that tom was talking about yes yes i did and where did those go just into the ground and stay or what happened to [Music] i'm those to think 51 years back um yeah i'm not helping with this i just saw a moment and like it disappeared but you were also driving so i was busy driving that's true and i was also um you're it's so hard to take it all in when you're looking at something that's off world if you want to call it that um um well did the car stop when you were driving or did you stop the car in the bridge but i i didn't shut it off and i remember i pulled over why did you do that i wanted because things were happening and i was a little rattled and i wanted to pull off to the side and actually see believe what i was you know seeing actually you know so you saw that and then you pulled over yeah okay okay and but do you remember the light coming in the car oh yeah that i remember very well it was like an explosion inside the car of light and it was awe-inspiring and that's when i lost it i don't remember anything yet that's the last memory i have actually remember when you were talking about how it sounded like things got tight how felt like you were uh tom said underwater but you said it got kind of the i guess the atmosphere you'd say got kind of weird like you're like like you're underwater did you try to talk during that or was anybody talking during that to you or no i think we were just fixated on what was going on around us at the time in fact i know we were yeah so with the boys in the back were you turning around trying to see what they were doing were you worried about them or were you did you were they yelling or making any noise at all no actually not and uh the things that happened after the bridge happened rather rapidly so you didn't have a chance to turn around you had to we were reacting rather than reacting to the situation and i didn't have time to even turn around and say are you okay i was sure they were going to be i guess but no i didn't um did you have any feeling that you needed to do something or you wanted to do and buy something anything like you needed to leave or you needed to go somewhere or you needed or didn't feel like something was that you had the feeling you needed to do something or something was telling you to do something or go somewhere i just was in the moment at the time and i wanted to observe and experience it i mean i i wasn't afraid that fear wasn't act in it at all and to this day um i when i think back about it i i don't think we were in harm's way actually but we were experiencing something that was very unusual why do you feel like you weren't in harm's way what makes you feel like that now because we weren't really harmed we weren't harmed actually i mean whatever it was and probably a long time before we ever really know what really it was um nobody was injured uh nothing was destroyed not even the landscape wasn't destroyed so uh um i think my feeling was correct that we weren't in harm's way at all but it was frightening at the time yes um as a matter of fact um i think for several days afterwards we probably pinched ourselves to and try to find out whether we really would be but and that wasn't the case of course but i mean it was a uh you kind of walked around in a little bit of a daze i guess as close as i could come to it uh mentally i mean it was um did you get the feeling that you saw a spaceship or or did you yes i did and actually i believe i have seen two ufos since then um when louisiana and one in florida and i was with other people at the same time not this kind of encounter but i do remember looking up and everybody was saying wow what is that and it was there one minute and took off the next and so and you have to remember ufo is only unidentified flying object it doesn't necessarily need something weird you know so i'm not afraid to use the phrase a lot of people are but i'm not me it just covers it did did you ever did did you have a similar experience with religion where you you started to doubt what was actually going on like tom did uh with religion no yes ma'am i don't i believe that we make creation much too small we try to make everything reduce down to something that we can understand and i think it's much larger than that i think uh just with the galaxies and everything that we we're being discovered almost on a daily basis practically uh i don't at all um i think we make uh um we limit what the creation actually is i think it's much larger and bigger and more wonderful than we probably um no really have you always felt that way excuse me have you always felt that way or is this yes i have i have um uh then this just magnified it a little bit i guess but um i hate to break in like this but if i don't go take a pee let's let's break for five minutes let's literally come back and let's just leave everything on and come back in five minutes okay that works for me thank you i need to okay i'm just gonna go on mute so has this whole thing been weird for you a little bit um i i'm one of the people actually that didn't speak up about a lot of things so i'm here to support thomas and his efforts and for history at this point at 81 years at this point um um this is only the second time i've spoken about it um in the media although i did work for radio station for years so i should be used to it i suppose but yeah what was that what was that with all that going on what was the part that scared you is there anything that actually scared you about all that when it i really don't think i was ever scared i think i was just overwhelmed um oh it struck basically i really don't think i was ever afraid i'm not sure anybody in my family was at that point to be honest with you um when something like that you don't have time to get scared probably yeah but you know that kind of thing so um is there one part that you always think about when you think about it you ever wake up and go wow i remember that part of it or just something that anything that requires the bridge and the lights coming through the slats and the bridge i i always remember that but i'm also a covered bridge fan so i would i'm glad we can cut a little bit i think this was in the shot when i sat down yeah we we're all show up top as well i think we're all wearing shorts look at mark that's funny any good any good news that's what they do on the five which i do watch it that's true all news i've been on cnn and you're sitting across the table from a guy in a great coat and all that you look down jeans or something else [Music] so chase chase excuse me i'm sorry chase what were you going to ask yeah please yeah uh well thank you for coming on and we were hoping if we could we could just ask tom uh two or three questions and we'll we'll wrap this thing okay let me give him back to the chair okay thank you ma'am for being with us thank you thank you so much great to meet you we really appreciate it thank you my pleasure all right so what do you what do you got uh so tom i just wanted to follow up uh i didn't get i didn't get to ask you very much tonight uh but again i appreciate you coming on and i think there's gonna be there's gonna be i don't think it's a stretch to say millions of people who appreciate you doing this for everybody and just having the balls to come come on the show especially facing four behavior profilers at the same time which would give most people a heart attack i think i'm all right i mean just the first time i talked to greg hartley on the phone i was nervous so and that was fun so well i wanted to say thanks and just maybe give you a follow-up question or two here yeah please you know absolutely when when you were nine we talked about how the horses started you know that there was something that that that changed or something that was that was different for you there uh with with the animals and i wanted to ask who was your who was one of your good friends when you were not like a neighbor or somebody you hang hung out with a lot well be honest with you it was uh probably the the uh linda farrell who lived upstairs over our diner who i miraculously just ran into about a year ago and she contacted me on facebook um and she remembered everything because the stuff that came over the radio should be in the diner and and um as far as good friends back then yeah um two twins joe and steve hozier were very good friends of mine um one of them was found drowned at lake mansfield um you know it was a a i don't know what the hell is going on over there um and then of course uh the girls i walked to school with you know who lived on my street uh gina and marisa paul merciful um i still stay in touch with them to this day they were witnesses to this thing they also gave testimony they were big horse people um they had snowmobiles we used to bomb around on the stomaches back in the day uh you were able to keep those relationships with the people you were already very close to you had some some run-ins outside of that but those relationships stuck really close and it was they stayed pretty much close to you well it was made in great barrington yeah absolutely i mean there was uh the heirs actually there's three um family members the last name is heirs and um they were witnesses they could have been on the show too but they they didn't have them on it either there was a lot more witnesses that didn't get on that show there's a judge kevin titus who actually sealed the documents um he was actually shot for the show they cut him um so i don't really know what happened there i mean there were so many other people that could have added something and take take the binder the binding they showed the great barrington binder the officer opening up the binder yeah there were only two incidences and one of them was uh the garbage or something right beer cans okay yeah well this was a holiday weekend with people drinking and over at all the the police department was getting calls wsbs was getting calls and there was no page in the binder that is that uh strikey was a little bit odd i mean all they had to do was click the binder take the page out and shut it for the show or whatever or that was never put in there to begin with but that to me was like are you kidding me and then even sheffield's um galada's father had gone out looking for uh with the with eddie his son to see if they could spot something that's how much it drove the sheffield police department to go look for something and yet the bigger town three miles down the road only had something in there about beer cans come on but uh the episode as a whole i think did a lot of good um it's um it's not just a another ufo story this is beyond that and it's an experience story it's it's yeah and it's lots of people and it's documented it's documented so tom the only other question i wanted to ask you is you know with everything that that's coming out this is a something that lots of people saw and the governor's verified this it's been verified by the historical society there's there's just a mass amount of evidence here to support all this stuff and i can tell you i have probably haven't been doing this as long as greg but i've been doing this a long time and i just wanted to ask you is there something that maybe happened during your experience when you're outside the car and you don't have to you don't have to say what it is but is there something that you still don't feel comfortable talking about absolutely it looked to me that way no question okay and the reason i i don't want to go there is because right now uh we have the support of the governor i have the support of lieutenant governor we have the support of historians judges bankers and i have a responsibility to them too not to make them look silly and i have uh agreed to that that makes sense sure and i respect that you know my father was um in office and um if someone said hey listen we're gonna go on a limb for you you know we're gonna go the extra mile we know this happened um your family was you know key in this and um you know we are going to vote on this thing and um if you know one of the questions that they have or concerns that they have is how are you going to handle it afterwards you know do we have your god's honest truth you know would you mind signing something for us that you will not uh use verbiage you will not um handle this in a way that um you know we feel it needs to be a more grounded fashion and if you'll agree to do that then um you know i think we can get this thing pushed through and so for me to start um going down a path or or being too particular over things that but at the end of the day doesn't really matter you know um yeah i'm not going to betray their trust and i and uh you know i gave them my word i've signed something saying you know i'll handle things a certain you know i won't go too far but yes there are lots of things i remember that i i and i and again i i i struggle with that part of it anyway you know uh and and that's probably the one area that i i'm more confused about so i have mixed feelings about it i'm conflicted um i i know what happened you know my brother remembers it too um my brother had a club foot by the way he had a brace on his right foot and he remembers attention being put to his club foot why i don't know um so there's little things like that um that uh you know you know that uh do i want to talk about it yeah you know probably but is it necessary no you know not at the end of the day scott you're all new so what if i stopped recording would you tell us about it because you can see where it says recording up there when i stop and hand to god i promise you on video we will we won't release that won't do anything with that i just want to know what the hell happened me too i'm just like oh the edges are going holy because when as soon as if we got off of here they're gonna go what the hell so i'm gonna stop recording so if you just feel like it you can't if i do start you'll know if i was just starting again we can give tom a preview of what we're going to do in the after show when we analyze this right now hey it's your you know i i uh i agree to you okay i'm going to stop recording so if you so if you'll tell us about it i'll hand to god i won't record this note we promise you that will that [ __ ] here we go

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Keywords: body language, unsolved mysteries, netflix, ufo, berkshires, berkshires ufo, thom reed, nancy reed, greg hartley, chase hughes, scott rouse, behavior panel, human behavior, read people, how to read people, how to read body language, read body language, how to, secrets of body language, body language of men, body language of women, lies, lie spotting, joe rogan, documentary, netflix berkshires ufo, mark bowden, the behavior panel, ufo sighting, joe rogan ufo

Id: ViBvs04iWuU

Length: 79min 58sec (4798 seconds)

Published: Thu Jul 30 2020

Reddit Comments

[u/Dave9170]

They also analyzed the body language of Jane Green

[u/cmwpost]

This was a fascinating watch - I can't wait for the analysis of this episode.

[u/popinjay_electric]

Brilliant interview. Really amazing of Thom to to do that. I'm convinced by his testimony,and when you bring in the other witnesses that makes it almost a dead cert. Which means insects aliens. I'd never really considered that.

[u/Juney2]

Yeah. This was really good!

[u/jeenasirfmereliye]

How they do abduction ?? People in Berkshire events only remember seeing lights from ufo before abduction. Can light suck you into ufo??

[u/DepressionFiesta]

Sounds like he saw the alleged "Praying mantis" type aliens? I wonder what they did to him..

[u/sendingourbestcats]

I want to know what he told them when the video ended!

[u/Beatrice4711]

If someone swings back and forth with his eyes closed and says "it's what it is, I saw a UFO". Then I know exactly what to think. In his dreams he saw a UFO.