This Rocks and Crocodile Theory Could Break One Piece

like Roger and so many of the other greats in one piece did Rox D zabek have a child that made it to the current generation it would make some sense since every rocks pirate that our crew has met had some because big mom is named big mom for a reason kaido had Yamato and Whitebeard went on to adopt tons of kids to call his own and even the other stars of God Valley had children because Gart presumably had Dragon which in turn led to Luffy and Shanks even seems to be connected to figurlin Garling before film read Shanks was probably the most common choice to be the son of rocks and while still technically possible I think most people are looking in another Direction now like maybe Blackbeard because he's obviously paralleling rocks in a lot of ways or potentially even buggy who I just talked about for like an hour with three volking Recon par vision and hidden island there's even theories about rocks being cloned or something like some of the other rocks members but none of these answers ever sat right with me at least that was until about a day before I started recording this video and that's all thanks to a Reddit post from Queen flower hours 91 which you can find down below the post itself is super convincing but the additional evidence that I found afterward pretty much seals the deal to me at least that the child of Rox dieselbeck is crocodile this Theory really starts with the Egyptian gods sebec who is a crocodile you may have heard of this goddess Sobek before but sebek is also a common spelling and obviously this name is pretty damn close to zebek and since crocodile took over alabasta which parallels Egypt there is obviously something going on here if you play old school RuneScape that's why the crocodile boss in the desert raid is named zaback not to mention crocodile has sand powers and sand literally comes from rocks that have weathered down but currently crocodile is 46 meaning he would have been eight years old during the time of God Valley so the timeline is certainly valid he was just one year older than Luffy was when he ate the gomugomunomi or the hitohito no me model Nika whatever so crocodile could very well have have been influenced by rocks in the events of God Valley just like Luffy was by Shanks and maybe that even spills into the reason why crocodile has always hated Whitebeard even since Croc was basically a rookie he had some issue with Whitebeard during SBS 78 Oda was asked about a newspaper that we saw during the Corazon flashback that actually featured crocodile and was reporting him as a hero the reason for this was originally he became a rising star in the pirate world just like Luffy and then he quickly accepted the role as a warlord and became known for hunting down Pirates and one of those pirates was Whitebeard but why him specifically Whitebeard actually asked that same question about Ace to mass Deuce during the ace novels which if you haven't seen my man marked by Flames Theory yet I definitely recommend checking that out but on one hand Kroc may have just wanted more notoriety and to become an emperor on his own but Whitebeard was closer to his prime back then we don't really know who the fourth Emperor was at that time because shanks only became an emperor about six years ago but white bird was Roger's rival and known as the strongest man in the world so why would crocodile pick a fight with him of all people well it could have something to do with whitebeard's past with rocks did Whitebeard maybe be Trey rocks at some point or at least that's how Croc perceives it and if Croc did have some kind of history with the Rocks pirates that would kind of answer how crocodile knew something about pluton even though he was wrong about the actual ancient weapon being there the fact the ancient weapons ponoglyph was there meant whoever told him that knew what they were talking about at least a little bit and this history with the Rocks Pirates could even tie to the secret that ivankov knows about Croc being the child of rocks could potentially answer every single one of these Mysteries Whitebeard has always been kind of the odd Man Out Among the Rocks Pirates to me big mom kaido and Shiki are all a little more evil than Whitebeard ever seemed to be perhaps this differing ideology was Illustrated during the Rocks days and May maybe Croc's hatred for Whitebeard stems from that did Whitebeard potentially betray rocks at God Valley like Squad betrayed Whitebeard maybe I mean in fact that very thought drove me to go check out that scene in the manga because if you recall crocodile saw that event happen with his own two eyes in the entire War up until that point Croc had just one goal kill Whitebeard Edwin Squad stabbed white-beard Croc even complained about him being weak but then Whitebeard hugged his son claimed he still loved him and said a son does not need to Bear the sins of the father and he then offered a chance for every pirate to escape if they didn't believe him once Croc saw that he immediately turned around to help save Ace that speech from Whitebeard caused crocodile to do a complete 180. even sengoku was surprised at this turn of events because he thought he could use crocodile against Whitebeard and sengoku is the one who told us about God Valley in the first place so maybe he knew something here was there some reason that what Whitebeard said changed crocodile's mind could it maybe be that crocodile sympathizes with Ace a man who had to hide his true name from the world because of his father if Croc has been hiding the name Roxy crocodile or whatever all along then seeing whitebeard's display of Parenthood in that moment may have shown him that the old man isn't so bad especially if he's helping somebody like Ace who lived a life so similar to his not to mention rocks and Roger were obviously Big Time rivals in the past so having their children parallel each other by both needing to hide their true names in the future generation just makes so much sense to me and if you think about it Ace and crocodiles share a lot of similarities both were formally introduced in alabasta both have had logia powers both fought Whitebeard when they were rookies both were offered to become Warlords very early in their career even though Ace turned it down which in and of itself could parallel Roger and Rock's wills and and you could even say they have somewhat similar Aesthetics with both of them having a kind of cool guy feel with medium length black hair and even facial markings with Ace having freckles and Croc having his iconic scar I mean look at their pictures as kids if you slap some freckles on the crocodile he would just be one hairstylist away from looking like Ace these two have a lot of parallels but if they are truly the children of rocks and Roger then there may be some interesting inversions Ace wanted nothing to do with his biological father and he just wanted to carve his own path into the world but Croc may be following in his Father's Footsteps creating these big shot organizations with the goal of creating his own Utopia both of them needed to hide their identity but for opposite reasons Ace just didn't want to have the same name of his dad who he didn't like and crocodile may have needed to in order to fulfill his dad's dream a dream that is somewhat similar of the other rocks pirates that we've met extensively kaido and big mom kaido wanted to make a world of war where the strongest reign supreme basically and big mom wanted to create a place where every race could live together both of these were their forms of Utopias you could say and even as recently as chapter 1082 we hear Croc talking about forming his own Utopia maybe that was what United the Rocks crew in the past while they were known as a crew back then there seemed to be constant infighting and big mom said rocks was a good for nothing and kaido talked about how Pirates always betray each other it feels like rocks was more of an organization than a typical pirate crew like the straw hats have and that's something crocodile has kind of specialized in he never has a prototypical crew but instead has organizations like Baroque works or the cross Guild other than maybe the exception of Mr one there isn't a true loyalty to Crocodile by any of these members and similar to God Valley which was erased crocodile even wanted to destroy Alabaster when he finished with his plan yet another potential connection between these events and what would a crocodile Theory be if I'd didn't at least mention croco-mom which some of you may be disappointed to hear I don't think is necessarily true but crocodile being a female in general does gain some traction here because as I mentioned ivankov knows some secret or weakness of crocodiles and if his goal was to hide his true identity from the world so he won't get hunted down because of his father what better way than to just change your gender maybe Croc was originally Rock's daughter and was well known for that and so was chased around the world after God Valley and then Ivanka was probably one of the only people in the world who could really save crocodile from that lifestyle by turning him into a man and hiding his identity Croc may have been pursued after God Valley somewhat like Robin was after Ohara Robin was eight years old back then and Croc was eight years old after God Valley Robin was known as the demon child and maybe Croc was known as the child of a demon Robin was pursued because she could read the ponoglyphs and maybe the government had a hunch that Croc knew a thing or two about them as well from his time with rocks which might even be evidenced by the fact he knew pluton was connected to alabasta and of course these two also ended up working together as Mr zero and miss all Sunday within Baroque Works two people who may have had similar paths in their own right who are also pursuing similar goals the first time we saw crocodile he was introduced with a white lily and Oda Associated the white lily with Robin during an SBS furthering the connection between these two and there's actually a lot of other characters who shared a similar feeling at the age of eight specifically Sanji left germa at the age of eight Momo was sent to the Future at the age of eight Shira Hoshi called for the sea Kings for the first time when she was eight years old even though Flamingo killed his dad when he was eight years old and he parallels crocodile quite a bit which I'll discuss later a lot of important characters went through some serious stuff at the age of eight so the fact that crocodile was ate during God Valley should raise some red flags in tying this all back to ivankov if Croc really was a female at some point then Eva would be the one person who knows the truth of his identity nobody would know where this male crocodile guy came from other than ivankov and that's what makes the secret matter so much it's not even that Croc would be embarrassed or anything about the gender swap it's that it would reveal his true identity as the child of rocks and this makes sense because ivankov has been the king of name drops in one piece most recently Eva told us about narona emu which is just massive but Eva also knew a bunch of level 6 prisoner names who eventually became Blackbeard Pirates ivankov seems to know all sorts of names from history so having Eva be aware of crocodiles could be poetry and the interesting thing to me is that if Croc is really related to zebek in any way then Alabaster in God Valley may have some uncanny parallels obviously God Valley got erased and Croc wanted to eliminate alabasta with a giant bomb after his plan Croc's entire goal was to get the ancient weapon pluton and I've discussed in probably three videos by now that Uranus is very likely tied to God Valley check out this vegapunk mother Flame video or just this Uranus video for more info there but the big piece of evidence for all that is Shiki who was a rocks pirate because he said that he knew Roger was aware of the location of an ancient weapon Roger didn't meet Odin yet at this point in the journey or gondawano so Uranus is kind of a safe default for this perhaps the Beck's plans at God Valley were similar to crocodiles at alabasta get an ancient weapon eliminate everyone on the island and then use that power to form a Utopia I mean it is kind of uncanny that crocodiles den den Mushi has the same markings as the egg on Roger's ship just like how Croc went to alabasta but only found pluton's ponoglyph I think the same thing might have happened at God Valley where rocks found the pony glyph instead of the real weapon now I do think there's a chance that they found the egg there and someone with Bonnie's Powers aged it up so Uranus returned temporarily but that's an idea for another video since Shiki said Roger knew the location of the weapon specifically it makes me think that Roger would have read or heard that poniglyph similar to how he heard Poseidon's ponoglyph talk about a great power Croc went for the god of the underworld and maybe his Dad inverted that a little bit by going for the god of the sky maybe God Valley showed Croc that the god of the sky was unattainable right now so he went for the opposite one instead he could basically be pursuing some alternative version of his dad's dream pursuing the power of the ancient weapons in order to form his own Utopia Croc wanted pluton maybe his dad wanted Uranus and funnily enough the banana Gators are the only natural predator to the Sea Kings it's like these crocodile adjacent beings just can't stop hunting ancient weapons it's like they're all the ancient weapons Kryptonite almost this could be the reason that Croc is getting so important again in the end game of the story we still don't know who Caribou is working with for sure but I love the idea that he's actually Mr 10 from Baroque Works to tie this all back together shout out Randy Troy for that one because this would truly give Croc the ancient weapon that he's been looking for all along and if you think about everything from oda's perspective he thought the series was gonna be like five years when he started he didn't know it would go on to be almost 1100 chapters and counting but Oda is also an author who knows the ending to his story so that means that if you want answers to the end game you need to look at the early game and alabasta was a massive Turning Point early in the story because it was where we found our first Pony glyph we heard of our first ancient weapon and we met the nefertari who we now know turned down the chance to become Celestial dragons and they have the will of D and we have to remember that God Valley happened towards the beginning of Roger's Journey someone who we know parallels Luffy obviously so there may be a mirror between the events at God Valley and what we saw in alabasta I mean sengoku did say that rocks was both Roger's first Foe and perhaps his greatest crocodile may not have been literally Luffy's first foe in the entire story but he was the first warlord and for sure Luffy's first serious challenge in the grand line and while Croc isn't as strong as kaido or some of the other enemies that we've seen since then the fact that we are seeing Croc pluton the nefertari and all this other stuff from alabasta coming back into play now in the final Saga I don't think it's that crazy to say that Croc is at least one of the biggest villains Luffy has faced I mean GARP teamed up with Roger at God Valley and alabasta is where smoker first started realizing the straw hats may not be the bad guys because at least early in the story it was clear GARP and smoker Were Meant To Be Parallels for chasing Roger and Luffy respectively smoker may have fallen off in the Post Time skip since we barely see him but the connection still stands and might hint that these islands are a little closer than we realize Oda may have set this up where Luffy the the son of the Revolutionary and most dangerous man in the world Ace the son of the pirate king and crocodile the son of Roger's Nemesis basically the children of the three biggest enemies of the world government you could say were all together at one point in Alabaster there's even a great parallel to doflamingo here you've probably heard before about how similar Alabaster and dressrosa are with both of their countries being taken over by Warlords the royalty having history from before the void Century the countries were ruled by people whose families at least had a chance to become Celestial dragons and even a few other things but the arcs are kind of inverted as well because dressrosa was an example of what happens if the warlord successfully takes over while we saw that Takeover in progress during Alabaster but the thing with Dopey is that he was the child of a good Celestial Dragon family which we don't usually see could Oda invert that with Crocodile by making him the child of a bad d-clan member if people like Sabo and even the nefertari have Wills similar to d-clan members without actually having the initial D or at least knowing they have it then surely there are people on the opposite side of that right who were born with the initial D but don't really carry the will that's why it's called the will of D the initial only means so much really so maybe rocks and crocodile to an extent are from Bad members of the clan who still use that initial for whatever reason when Robin and Cobra headed down to the pony glyph Crypt in alabasta Cobra mentioned how the nefertari Were Meant to protect the poneoglyph a statement which Robin scoffed at and knowing what we know now the nefertari were one of the original 20. so Robin may have assumed they weren't good people that protecting the poneoglyph was a charade and they were really keeping that information hidden from the world but now we know the nefertari were true d-clan members maybe Robin was working with a fake d-clan member and Rox D crocodile or whatever against the true D's being the nefertari because the nefertari having the D was only mentioned in the letter that Cobra had from Lily so this will likely be news even to Robin despite knowing how much of the history she knows already this could change a lot of context of what she knew and speaking of good and bad d-clan members you might be wondering about Marshall D teach a man who undoubtedly has some type of connection to rocks Illustrated either by him taking over his old home base in Hachi nosu or his main ship being the saber of zebek there are other things you could point to as well but the point is if Croc is Rock's child then what is Blackbeard well the interesting thing here is that Blackbeard is ironically the warlord who took over for crocodile and then after that was law who was a hidden d-clan member all three of these people shift their alliances with the wind Blackbeard used his warlord status as leverage for more power in the world and now he's using Kobe to make hachinosu its own country law was a warlord and then worked with Caesar and then Luffy and now he's back to himself so his alliances shift as well and obviously Croc LED Baroque works and now he's part of the Cross Guild Oda is telling us that there's some connection between these three I think when Croc and Blackbeard met an impel down crocodile mentioned how peculiar it was that a no name from whitebeard's crew who Croc despises took his position and then Blackbeard mentioned his grand master plan which Croc wasn't really interested in for some reason these are two of the most cunning forward-thinking characters in the story and Croc wasn't interested in that plan why is Oda keeping them in the dark from one another while I don't have a solid answer on Blackbeard's true identity yet that is something I hope will get revealed soon but as for crocodile what is his true or original name Ace kept his name Ace but changed the family name where crocodile is just one name so far I mean yes he's usually called Sir crocodile but sir isn't his family name so whatever crocodile's true name is it's probably something different than just roxd crocodile if I'm taking a guess I mean the name crocodile itself is almost Loosely Rox D Isle we all love to pretend people's names have a hidden D like con D oriano the goat so I want to see you guys leave some comments down below for what you think crocodile's true name was I mean it's gonna be roxd something I assume but the true first name is kind of the linchpin especially if he was a female at some point my favorite idea so far comes from talking with Kev dog who thinks if Croc was actually a girl first her name could have been Ally like an alligator so her full name could have been roxd Ally which would just be hilarious but again it could also make some sense because this all ties back to sebek the crocodile God of Egypt so we're still keeping with that theme here but one thing I've been thinking about is what did Croc do between the ages of eight and whenever he could go and sail out on his own who was his parental figure during that time and my current guess just right now is actually Dew felt parvision had an awesome theory about crocodile being a clone or something of dewfeld and while I love that idea I think it may just be more likely that dewfeld cared for crocodile over the years dewfeld funded mads which is confirmed to have cloned rocks members so there is already a connection between the groups here and obviously crocodile has such a similar mob boss aesthetic and as I mentioned earlier he was loaning money out to people which is similar to dewfeld and his philanthropic Endeavors it is kind of funny to think of dewfeld as Croc's dad or dewfeld being to Croc what white beard was to Ace but I mean mads is proving to be incredibly important so maybe we really shouldn't sleep on the guy and all I can ask now is please hit like And subscribe if you enjoyed the video because that's it for this one guys and I do want to take a second to give a big thank you to a few folks who really helped with this Theory I mean first off thanks again to Queen flowers91 for posting this on Reddit but also Kev dog Saran wrap from the Discord three day from The Last Arc Channel hidden island 3 volt Matt Cipher and really anyone else that I bounced ideas off of for this theory if any of them have channels you'll find them down below but alright that's really it for this one guys please check out one of these on-screen videos right here if you want or if not that's cool too but for now later

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Length: 21min 16sec (1276 seconds)

Published: Mon Jul 10 2023