- For years now, you've been able to buy compact ITX motherboards with support for all the latest features, 16-core processors, 64 gigabytes of memory,
(packaging crumpling) even things like
high-quality onboard audio and high-speed onboard networking. But one thing that has
always been the bane of many ITX's existence has
been the lack of expandability. That's right my friends, that's it. A single PCI express 16X slot at best, means that if you want to
run dedicated graphics, you will not be throwing
in any network cards, (thumping) high-speed PCI express SSDs,
(thumping) or storage controllers. At least that used to be true. In today's build, we
are gonna be splitting this single PCI express
16X slot into dual 8X slots for two expansion cards
on a mini ITX build. And we're going to be
doing it on a budget. (banging) This thing's not even expensive. And it's brought to you by Seasonic. Seasonic makes high-performance, high-quality power supplies, and all kinds of form factors like their Focus Gold
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and 80+ gold efficiency. You can check it out at the link below (techy music) (whirring) (beeping) (loud techy music) We're gonna blow through the rationale for a lot of our hardware choices today, because I think they're
pretty self explanatory. We went for a Ryzen 930 900 XT. It's a 12-core processor that offers not just great multi-threaded performance, but also great single-threaded
performance for gaming. We've gone with 32 gigs of
G Skill TridentZ memory. We're not going RGB today
because this isn't gonna be as much of a flashy build. It's gonna be more of like a versatile high-performance rig. And then for storage, we've actually gone with a
Sabrent four-terabyte N.2 This is only PCI express gen three, even though technically
we could use gen four, but I was more into capacity
for the game library today than, you know, the absolute
fastest benchmark scores. So we're going to go ahead and pop this little heat shield off here, get our drive inserted, take our thermal pad peel off. Then the whole thing goes
back in with the screws we used to take it off. It is truly remarkable
how much they can pack onto these mini boards these days. We've got not one, but two RGB headers supporting different standards,
a 12-volt and addressable. We've got four SEDA ports. We've got both the older style
USB 3.0 front panel header, as well as the newer type C one. We've got USB two, actually
a couple of USB twos front panel audio, of course, that PCI
express gen four, M.2 slot and check this out, there's
another gen three M.2 slot hiding on the back. One of the coolest things about this board is that we don't even have to worry about putting high-speed networking on, unless we want to go 10 gig because it's actually got
two and a half gig networking on board, along with a bunch
of USB three onboard video, as well as- Ooh, that's a pretty limited
onboard audio selection, but frankly, most people these days are probably using their HDMI audio out, or in the case of what
I would use this for, a head-mounted display. So I'm not gonna take too
many points off for that. It's also got AX, so wifi six
onboard wireless networking. Freaking nuts, look at it! It's not enough to just have
a motherboard that's capable of splitting or bifurcating
the PCI express slot, though. You need to also have a case that's built with that functionality in mind, or there's not going to be
anywhere to put the card. (crinkling) So this right here is
the SM 580 from Sliger. These guys are a very
niche case manufacturer that I actually used recently (whirring) for a personal rig update for my VR setup, because they've got kind
of a unique approach to small form factor and modularity that I really like. So check this out. This case is designed to be
used a number of different ways. You can either install a
triple slot graphics card on your, you know,
standard ITX motherboard using these three PCI slots at the back, or as we're obviously
going to be doing, you can- (metal clinking) There we go... Ho ho, install a dual
slot and a single slot using this special riser
cable that's available as an option when you purchase it. Now it does cost extras. These are nice, high-quality
shielded cables. And this is generally considered to be more of a server feature
than a consumer feature. But I think in the grand scheme of things, to be able to achieve this kind of size (plastic crumpling) (thumping) with dual expansion slots, (crumpling) it's pretty compelling. Maybe the reason it impresses me so much, even though it is like an $80 adder, is that I know the alternative
is way more expensive because if the functionality
is built into your motherboard, all you need is this relatively
simple cable, you see, there's no actual chips on this PCB. It's just the 16 lanes
wired up to two 8X slots. By contrast, if the motherboard
didn't support bifurcation, we'd be in a situation where
you have to put some kind (whirring) of switch chip, like a
PLX chip that would, yes, allow each card to use all of
the bandwidth individually, if the other one wasn't doing anything, but also would add a ton of cost, not to mention more complexity. (whirring) Before we proceed with the build, let's go ahead and install some
of our optional accessories like this carrying handle. It's actually secured with
this bracing on the inside. Seems like it should
hold up reasonably well. And for installation of the
pass-through power cable, I'm gonna use this blank plate here because while you can use one that just kind of passes through the cable and leaves this dangling outside the case, if you have a tall graphics card, (metal clinking) I don't, I'm gonna be using a founder's edition RTX 2080, super. And it should fit just fine, Even with-
(metal scraping) Agh, see this, this potential
clearance issue here. Oh shoot. I can't have the handle in when I wanna take out
the radiator bracket. (thumping)
Oy! Hey, there it is. So it's just the two screws on this side, the corresponding two on the other side and make sure you don't
have your handle installed. Now the orientation of this
is apparently important. You want the bumps here facing
toward the front of the case. So I gotta make sure I remember that. I also need to give a
little bit of thought (thudding) to how I want to orient my AIO. That's right, my friends. You can put a massive dual 140
millimeter AIO in this thing. Wait, is this even gonna fit? No, no, there's your problem. You gotta take the top of
this puppy completely off in order to get the radiator in. Lower the whole thing in as an assembly. (metal clanking) Ah! (zipping)
Cases like this, it sort of raises the question for me. Why even bother shipping it assembled? (zipping) Let's have a look here. How are we supposed to get
that block to that CPU? (scoffing) I don't know if this H159 is gonna fit. We might have to go with
something with thinner tubes. (whooshing) I think we're good, now. I pulled this H115i Pro
RGB out of the stock room and I think... This should fit fine. Yup. Let's go ahead and pop this
power supply bracket, yeah. (zipping) We're going deeper and deeper and deeper at every stage here. Okay... Maybe... Through here? (metal clinking) No it's not gonna go like that, It might have to go like
that and be upside down. Shoot, I was hoping to
have the fans on the top for easier dust removal
from the radiator fins, but it looks like I'm going to have to go the other way around. (thumping)
Cause it doesn't... Go in deep enough here from the mounts for the side panels. (ticking) Now that I've got the fans loaded in here, this is an unbelievable amount
of air flow in this case, like check this out. Dual 140 millimeters that take up the entire bottom of the chassis. Then, that's gonna run
across our motherboard, across our graphics card,
and we've got dual 140s that are gonna pull it out the top. I'm jazzed. Let's get this motherboard installed. (ticking) Here it is. This is like the big
moment I just have to like, not break it. Wow, it's a really tight fit. Eh! (clicking) Now it's comin' together. Now that I'm done taking
it apart the whole time. Ah, power supply. Oh yeah, right. Sponsor of the video. Can't forget that. Yeah, we're done with the computer. (host whining) No way to turn it on. (cardboard scraping) In terms of orientation,
we're gonna put our SGX 650 in with the fan up. So this is an SFX L-power supply, which means you get that
nice 120 millimeter fan instead of a little tiny 92 mil. And we're gonna pop it right there. Just do a quick little test fit. Oh yeah, that- (metal scraping) Ugh, that looks great. So we're going to have
just enough clearance between this fan and our power supply for our modular cables there. I'm a little worried about this power run going right next to
the PCI express cables. So I'm gonna, I don't know. I might just leave it hangin' over here. This is one thing they did
not really account for. Once I plug this 24-pin
connector into my motherboard, unless I've got a real short cable kit, I don't know where I'm putting this. I think I got it. So I tucked it. Do you know what I mean? Give it the old tuck. Strapped it right here. And it looks like both my fans spin. So I'm just gonna run this
up to the graphics card and we're in pretty good shape here. It actually doesn't even look that bad. So, David, what do you
want to see in here? We've got a secondary slot
that we could use for... maybe a...
(tapping) dual-input capture card, raid controller, high-speed SSD? Mmm, I already got a high-speed SSD- - [David] Duo slot yeah. - We're doin' the capture card aren't we? Let's do the capture card. Alright cool. For those of you who don't
know why you would want a dual-input capture card,
this thing is pretty cool. It's called the Live Gamer Duo. It's got 4K pass-through or
240 Hertz, 1080P pass-through. (plastic crumpling) So you can actually gain
at a higher resolution or higher frame rate than
what you're broadcasting. But what it allows you to do is have one with pass-through, for your display. So that's what you'd use
for an external device, like an Xbox or PlayStation
or whatever the case may be, another PC. And then you've got a second
one that's just an input. No pass-through for your camera. So you would have,
instead of like a webcam, (whirring) you'd have like a mirror less or DSLR or something like that,
plugged into your capture card. So you can do the whole
thing with just one card. (whirring) Let's go ahead and throw our
RTX 2080 Super up in this biz. Oh yeah, remember when this (plastic crinkling)
used to be sexy? You know, these are still going
on eBay for like 600 bucks? I mean, you can't buy a 3000 series. So if you like actually need
to play video games today, I guess I can see why you
might buy one of these but. Come on guys, just wait a little bit. Just wait a little bit. Yeah don't enable the scalpers. Let their inventory rot. So check this out. Because, at least in this configuration with the bifurcated slot,
the graphics card is not right up against the motherboard tray. You might actually be able to get away with a Founder's Edition card and you could certainly do like a double or triple card here. There's enough air flow coming over this. I think it would be okay. This is frickin' sick. Now I feel bad having
a 2080 Super in here. Should I change it out? - [David] Yeah.
- Should I put a 3080 in here? - [David] Yeah yeah! (ticking) Found one. This is like actually a blast, getting all of this to go together. In goes the 12-pin connector. Let's just throw a little
cable tiey-tie across here, keep this out of our fan blades. And now, the final piece. (plastic clicking) (gasping) Holy crap, why is this
not fitting in here? See, I love small form factor cases. I hate getting stuff to fit in them. I can't even move it back
far enough to not interfere. (blooping) (serious music) I have an idea. (banging) (clicking) Oh... (laughing) It's in! Well, it doesn't actually affect anything. Like it's not... It's not even... It doesn't do anything. It's just, and it's not even aesthetic. You can't even see it. Here we go boys! (clicking) Oh, I see it. (clicking) I see it. - [David] Oh my gosh. - Is it in? This is dense. That's right, that's how confident I am. I'm using a thermal pad. (David gasping) It's like a good one though. This is really not my finest
cable management work. But... There's nothing in any of the fans. Shoot. (clicking) These won't close. I need to hammer the radiator some more. I don't even think I can get
the front panel all the way on with how the radiator's right
behind the plate behind it. I mean, David, can we just say
it's like PS5-inspired now? - [David] Heck yeah! - I mean off camera, I
would definitely feel like I have to fix this, but like... Can we test it? - [David] Yeah! - Okay, so you'll have to use... you'll have to use an AIO that
doesn't have like a really, really square profile,
but let's give it a shot. (clicking)
Come on. 3900 XT, 32 gigs of ram
detected, everything detected. Very nice. What do you think? XMP? Just gonna-
(snapping) work for me.
- [David] Oh yeah. DDR4 3200 CL14. Shoot, I kind of wish I had a 4K monitor. This is 1440P we're going to run the game at Ultra Nightmare, but like. I'm not expecting 3080
to even break a sweat. I'm starting my min-max
average values timer. Let's jump in game here. I wanna see what my max temps
look like on CPU and GPU. (gasping) Should I go get a 4K monitor? - [David] Yeah. I might have to. This is running at 220
FPS, it's too maternal. Holy crap. You know what I just noticed David? - [David] What's that? - I noticed something I didn't notice. It's not even loud. - [David] Wow. - GPU maximum 75. CPU maximum 73. (jazzy music) ♪ I can do anything just to kiss you ♪ This thing's awesome! (whirring)
All we can do now is try and push it harder.
(blooping) (clicking) Let's step the game up to 4K. Actually, this is a
really great visualization of how many more pixels
4k is compared to 1440p. Boop! Pa-pow! Aw, I wanted to land on him. That sucked. This is amazing. We are gaming at 4K (tapping) 120 FPS. Rock solid here. All right, I mean, if this
doesn't drive up our temps, then I don't know what's gonna do it. Let's alt tab out and have a look here. CPU max 77. So we did hit it a bit harder there. And GPU... 75. (thumping) That's it? We're maxing out our
turbo and the GPU fans are running at 1800 RPM. It's still quiet! Oh wow, it's heavy. I was like- And look how portable
with this great handle- I'm, d'ugh! It's a lot of hardware in there. Look at that it's all fanned. Only fans. (whirring) ♪ I can do anything ♪ (clicking)
(whistling) ♪ Just to kiss you ♪ (chiming) That's great, I was expecting
to have clearance problems with the GPU pulling air
through the side panel and then not really
having anywhere to put it, but these bottom fans make it, like, I can really feel the heat moving away. Like here's hot. Here's not. And fortunately the radiator's
still getting access to a decent amount of
not like super heated air from, hem hem. The other side. (metal clinking) Power supply fans definitely working. It's still quiet though. So not only does this mini
ITX case have better cooling than most of the other cases
I've seen in this size class, it manages to have an
expansion card in it. I mean, I think this thing's a big win, but I'll let you guys
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Thanks for watching. And we will see you
again on the next video. If you guys enjoyed this video and you love RTX 3000 content, maybe check out (snapping) our 8K gaming experience
with the RTX 3090. It's crazy!
He ignored the statement on Sliger's website about Corsair AIO's not fitting because of their non-rounded corners on the radiator.
TLDR is 3080 FE is fine in the SM580? Or is it still recommended to go AIB?
This was EXACTLY what I wanted to do with my elgato card!! Is this expansion cable sold standalone??
The 3080 temps look pretty darn good for a sandwich case and the PSU isn't even getting boiled alive. Might even be a bit cooler with a better fan configuration (bottom exhausts) but this is promising.
I hope that in a theoretical SM5x0 v2, Sliger enables the single-slot PCIe riser to be offset in their 3-slot models so that one could put a 2-slot card in the outer two slots
this exactly what I was saying about Ali's video. He said that the T1 is the best airflow case of all sandwich style cases but that is too broad of a thing to say. The sm580 is bigger and we all know that but it definitely right up there in airflow and probably better overall unless you are purely talking cpu cooler size. So unless he is talking 9-10L and under there is no issues with the sm580 to handle these cards. There is plenty of room behind the card and room for 4 120x25 or 140x25. So it's not a sandwich style case issue it's just purely a size issue which makes 100% sense. Ali should test the T1 and the sliger cases in his next video. The sm580 absolutely has zero issues handling this gpu
All this talk about sandwich cases got me craving a BLT. I'll have to settle with a PBJ.