- For the longest time,
Intel reigned supreme, all the way from the
highest power workstation and gaming rigs to the
tiny power sipping chips that you'd find in an
ultra portable laptop. Fortunately for consumers, AMD got their crap together
a couple of years ago, bringing the world Ryzen. A return to at least competitiveness on the consumer desktop, and even the high end workstation, but one area where Intel was on top, that isn't until very, very
recently was super small PCs with their NUC or next
unit of computing lineup, which possibly changes. I can't get my hand on this today. This is what appears to be one of the very first AMD Ryzen based NUCs. It's tiny it's light, and I have very high expectations, just like you have very high expectations of my segues to our sponsors. Like Vessi, Vessi footwear
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the DMAF5 on Indiegogo was like, what a weird number? Like $13,500 or something like that. They ended up raising over 400 grand. So why don't we do a quick unboxing and have a look at what we get inside? So we've got a VESA compatible mount, so you can pop one of these
on the back of your monitor. If you want like a, an
AIO look to your setup, we've got wow, really? Apparently it includes what appears to be a little Bluetooth keyboard. So the receiver just tucks into the back. You plugged that puppy in. If you wanted to use
this as like a media PC, for example, this would be great. I have something very similar at home. It appears that there's left
and right click on here. Is this an air mouse too? - [Jake] I'm not sure, but it only comes. It only came for like the early backers. - Oh only the early backers get this? - [Jake] Yeah. - I'm actually I'm jazzed to try this because mine is super bulky. It's one from Sedeko and I haven't been able to
find an alternative to it yet. You also get a power brick, HDMI cable. That is a really short HDMI cable. That is a pinner HTMI cable. I mean, I guess it's good enough to go from a VESA mount to the
bottom of the monitor, but that's about it, ladies and gentlemen. You get an equally Pitzer
display port cable. I'm bringing back pinner. You know that right? - [Jake] It's just cause you're a pinner. - Hey, there's no shame in being pinner. You've also got a USB type A to micro B charging cable for that included keyboard. I kind of inadvertently showed you guys how easy it is to get
access to the internals, but let's, take a tour
of the outside first. On the front, we've got our power button. We've got a Headphone
Jack, two type A USB three. Now this one, according
to the Indiegogo page anyway, is 10 gig and this one's five gig but this one provides power
even when it's sleeping, but it used to be color coded yellow. Like those normally are, now it's not. So I don't really know
what the deal is with that. You've got a Type C running at 10 gig and then nothing on this
side, nothing on this side. I keep accidentally popping that top off. And then over on the back, we've got a couple more 10
gigabit per second USB threes, display port HDMI, dual
gigabit LAN and power in. Okay. So that gives us a total of one, two, actually, apparently this
front USB Type C can be used as a display output. So that's three outputs. And because it's got dual LAN ports, one of the use cases that they advertise for it is actually as like a pfSense box. Although personally, I think I'd feel kind of
limited by something like this. Anyway, let's formally open it up now, you've got two clicky do duds right here and you just pop it off like that, that reveals, looks like we've got a SATA drive
connector right here. It's not immediately
apparent to me exactly where that's gonna mount to ah! To the bottom of the lid. I have two SATA memory slots for dual channel DDR4, as well as an M.2 slot over here. Now what I can immediately
see is the cooling solution and socket for the CPU, or rather, I should just say the BGA SATA point to the CPU. Reveal your secrets. - [Jake] Well we don't
have quite with you today. - Secrets. - [Jake] It's plunged in
its probably not best. (laughs) - Reveal them. Why is this not coming off? Oh, I see. 'Cause there's probably
some clips or something for this back part here. Ah, ah. Hey, wow, that was awesome. Knock that screw right
into the parts tray. That's an advanced dropping
technique right there. Oh my goodness. (chuckles) Why? Is this screwed in from the other side. Why? Maybe I over complicated things for myself I bet I didn't see these screws because there was memory
in the way there they are. Way to go Linus, see, the
whole thing would have just popped off like that. I blame, I blame Jake. This seems to be a VRM
heatsink of some sort. So let's go ahead and pop that puppy off. Here we go. Oh, interesting. Well, I mangled the Jesus
out of that thermal pad, so that's cool. But yes, that is in
fact what that was for. So that's good. And you know what? Let's just pop the M.2 out who needs this thing to ever
do that again anyway right? But am, - [Jake] We do (Jake laughs)
- And but am okay Yeah, we haven't really
done the video yet, so that's, challenging. Wow, why do they have these little rubbers on the M.2 stick here? I don't like rubbers on my stick. - [Jake] Does anyone? - Don't appreciate it exactly. Well, they have an operation for that. (Jake laughs) Let's give you the rundown here. It's available in two configurations with 256 gigs of storage and eight gigs of RAM for 429. That's early bird pricing those. We have no idea how that's gonna shake out to regular pricing or double that for, I
think it's yeah, 529. Now we do have some concerns. This is a SATA drive. So it's M.2, but you can tell by the
key that that's a SATA M.2 not an NBVe drive. They have gotten that feedback though. And apparently the newer
ones are gonna be NBVe as for RAM, unfortunately the
eight gig configuration ships with a single stick. So you're not running in dual channel, which means you kind of have
to go with the higher end one. If you want the full performance, speaking of full performance, as we all know rising benefits from higher memory speed in a big way. Unfortunately not only is
this 2,400 megahertz RAM, but we actually tried installing
some higher speed stuff that we had lying around at the office. And the bio seemed to still
be locked to 2,400 megahertz. So we'll see how that works out for us when we do our performance testing later. Oh nice. So we got ax wifi. So that's wifi six in there. That's pretty sweet. Hey, they took the gamers nexus approach to thermal compound. You can't have too much. So don't even try. I have no idea which
screws go where anymore. This is quite disassembled. Now we get our first look at the Ryzen 5 3550H, APU that's installed in the system. Now don't let AMD confusing
naming scheme mislead you here, even though this is a 3000 series Ryzen, it is not Zen 2 it is
unfortunately Zen plus. Don't feel bad though, if you didn't know that right off the hop, I too was bamboozled. The fact that I thought
this was Zen 2 was one of the main reasons that I was so excited
to check this thing out. So it's not seven nanometers. It's 12 nanometer everything
is PCI express of Gen 3, and all of that good stuff. With that said, this is still
an utterly unique product. And one that I really wanted to look at just because it's
finally an AMD alternative to Intel's NUC lineup. Now we can go ahead and put
this puppy back together. With it mostly reassembled. All that remains is to pop
in some dual channel memory so that we're giving it, its best chance possible as well as throw in some more storage that we've got room for all
of our, games about warfare, that's very modern and all that, all that kind of good stuff. So we'll pop that in there. Now, one of the things
you might have noticed about that cooling solution as we were looking at it was that it's pretty darn
robust by default AMD specs, this particular CPU for 15 Watts TDP, but it can be configured to up to 35. And that is apparently the route that Minisfirm has gone. Now we're still not expecting it to compete with a Zen 2 based CPU. And Asus actually has some sort of NUC competitors based on Zen 2, that are probably gonna beat the stuffing out of this thing. But I wanna give it a shot anyway, just because hey, first
out of the gate, right? Got our screen capture working, which involved poking around in Radeon software a little bit, but yes, Radeon software, that's right my friends, it's a Nuc like, Hey, can we call them that Nuc likes? That's not bad. That's not bad it's a Nuc like running Radeon graphics. Now Intel actually did
a Nuc with AMD graphics in it a while back, but this is different. And unfortunately not as powerful. These are Vega eight graphics and they are clocked at
around 1200 megahertz. And our expectations are basically that we should get
a pretty solid experience in esports titles. But beyond that, probably
not that amazing. While performance as we expected, it's not, jaw dropping or anything. to their credit it's not loud. Like that's very reasonable for a mini PC and check this out. The whole strategy of more than doubling (Linus chuckles) the suggested TDP from AMD seems to be working out pretty good. 3.36 gigahertz at a 100%
load across all course, 60 and 67 points puts us right in range of a mobile skylight core i7. So that's pretty respectable, but well behind even a
quad core like desktop CPU from that generation, a little unfortunate, but maybe we'll make up some ground in, let's say rocket league. I mean, obviously this is not
a gaming oriented product, but, Scott Radeon graphics
compared to Intel onboard so. 1080 texture detail, high performance world detail, high quality, most stuff turned on, but not everything. Okay sure. Yeah. Let's see. Let's give it a shot right? Okay. So we're getting anywhere
from around 30 to 40 FPS. Not bad. - [Jake] So like game console territory. - Yeah. Look at that. Oh yeah. I mean, obviously it's not amazing, but like if you'd showed
me this, like, 10 years ago I'd have been like, of course just cause it's
quiet doesn't necessarily mean that the thermal performance is good. So I wanna take a look at
what our CPU temps are like when we're hitting it hard. Okay. That's respectable 80 degrees. I mean, obviously it's
not like my favorite thing in the world to have a
CPU running at 80 degrees, but it's not like your water
cooling the thing in here. And given how quiet it is, not bad, not bad Minisforum. Is that how you're
supposed to pronounce it? - Minis, I don't know. - I don't really know They can play Valorant, I'll
be pretty happy with that. Okay. - [Jake] Looks like its
playing valorant to me 4k (Jake laughs)
- Wait what? Shut up. - Client FPS. Here we go, graph - [Jake] Show both, show both.
- Show both, alright. Well, why not both? Okay. What are we looking-- - What?
- Client FPS? 50 to 60 FPS Valorant 4k, hold on. Get over here Brandon. We're gonna have to do a quick check. We're gonna have to do a quick check here for alternate computers
plugged into the thing. Nope. That's it. That's pretty good for onboard graphics. - [Jake] I mean the
settings are probably pretty oh, is there a render resolution maybe? - Let me check. Let me check back-- - [Jake] Even the settings are
low people play esports games at low settings to get better performance. (Linus mumbles) - Okay yeah, it's pretty low. It's pretty low - [Jake] That's what
most people use anyways. - Let me just see if
maybe it's like rendering at 50% res or what not it doesn't seem to be.
(Jake mumbles) - Okay. That's pretty cool. What was the thing 500 bucks? Sure. Now for fun, let's try
some media Encoding. Now, one of the ways we could do this is fire up handbrake or FFN peg. But the reality of it is most
people aren't doing that. So let's take something else most people aren't doing, running a Plex server at home and let's put it through the paces there. So the idea behind Plex is you
rip your favorite blue rays or DVDs or whatever the case may be. You throw them onto a NAS
or a little box like this. And then from anywhere,
whether it's on a computer, on your TV or on a phone, you can access it kind of like your own little personal Netflix. So Jake actually has his
account signed in here. He is firing up his phone and let's see how hard
this puppy's getting hit. So Plex Transcoder is asking
for about 22% on video and about 20% on audio. It's running nice and nice and quiet. - [Jake] It should be playing-- - And what is this? Is this 4K - It's original quality 4K. So the only thing that's
Transcoding is audio. - That's fantastic. It's actually kind of crazy
how heavy audio is hey. Look, I didn't realize until
I started running Plex, how video is like no
big deal in some cases in this case, it's because
the 4K video stream is actually just directly streaming because a Jake's phone has
built a decoding for that. But it's the audio that
you actually have trouble with in some cases. So this is, this is freaking awesome. - Oh, no way. Oh, it looks terrible. Something that's not happy. - That's horrendous. - Come on give it a sec. Oh, there we go. - It's back to a 100%. There's no way. No, you're done. You're out. - All right it can't handle a 4K. Oh, well. Oh, it's no, it's dying. - Time for a 1080p Transcode test. 4k was ridiculous. - It's playing it hasn't buffered. It might be building up a buffer - Oh
- and then maybe it'll relax a bit. I don't know. - Yeah there it is. It's chilling out a little bit now. Well, that's fantastic. - So it's enough to do
probably one 1080p Transcode. - And then maybe one 720
or something like that. But I wouldn't count on it. Still for an all rounder little machine. I'm impressed as heck by this thing. Of course I'd be more impressed if it was Zen 2, but fortunately, we're gonna be checking out something like that very soon. Make sure you guys are subscribed. Because Asus has an absolutely
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TL;DR 3550H, if only it was a 4600H
its a old one and to expensive
ASUS VivoMini PC PN50 AMD Ryzen 3 4300U its 300E in my zone
Does anybody know what chips they use for the LAN?
Why review this trash when the ASUS PN50 with Ryzen 4000 chips are available?
Does anybody have any info on the mini keyboard that was shown for a hot 5 seconds and never mentioned again?
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Doubt it's possible on such a small pc, but does anyone reckon you could upgrade the graphics card on the DMAF5?
Anyone tried to run Linux on this machine? Just had my hand on one of those and I'm having some difficulty