- The RTX 3080 is the most powerful GPU we've ever seen at this price point. But, we've said that before. And in fact we say it every time there's a new graphics card generation. So what makes this one so darn special? I mean, the hype
surrounding it was so huge that even we got caught up in it. I mean, look how excited this guy is, it's infectious, but as we
all know, hype disappoints and absolute hype disappoints absolutely. Unlike our sponsor, GlassWire. GlassWire is the tool that shows you which apps are slowing
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really went out of your way to set yourselves up here, didn't you? Like I don't get it. Spoiler alert, you're shipping
the fastest graphics card on the market at half the
price of the previous kin, why don't you just leave it there? Why push your luck with claims like, twice as fast as RTX 2080? Because it's not. (slow upbeat music) Now to be very clear, it's not like I'm saying, you know, boo, 3080
biggest disappointment ever because, right out of the gate at 1440p we're looking at a performance lead over, not just the price
comparable last gen 2080, but even the 2080 Ti and even with RTX disabled, I mean, this is a freakin'
awesome leap in raw horsepower. Overall, we saw anywhere
from a 20 to 75% uplift over the 2080 with the
biggest benefits coming in DirectX 12 and Vulcan titles. So then, the only reason
I'm disappointed at all is because NVIDIA told me to expect double the performance of the 2080. Which as it turned out was, anywhere from a small embellishment to a fish this big whopper. But wait, okay, because
perhaps there's more to this. could our lackluster CS:GO
performance numbers hold the key? Look how CPU bound this
game ends up even at 1440p. So let's kick it up a notch to 4K where we're gonna leave
out our RX 5,700 XT so we can test out DLSS, NVIDIA's deep learning
up sampling technology. And ooh, is that 41 frames per second in Microsoft Flight Simulator? At 4K Ultra, no less? Holy (bleep). I mean, not only that, but the minimum of 34 FPS, that is perfectly playable in a game that's more focused on
visuals versus fast movement which means that we can
definitively say yes, it can run Flight Sim 2020, like damn. Now in general, we're still not seeing
that 2X performance bump with results closer to 75%, but we're also still
outpacing our RTX 2080 Ti by anywhere from 10 to 30%. And at 4K, CS:GO really lets the 3080 flex its big gains in memory bandwidth, thanks to its 10 gigs of GDDR 6X memory. That is a very small drop in
performance compared to 1440p. So all right then, while
it may not be exactly what NVIDIA promised us, the
3080 is still a gaming monster. Maybe productivity will give
us a clearer understanding of what they meant by that whole double the performance thing. And yeah, okay. That's double and well
ahead of the RTX 2080 Ti. In fact, in Blender,
the RTX 3080 CUDA score is so good that it rivals, excuse me, scratch that, beats the RTX 2080's RTX optimized optics render time, like, excuse me, pardon? And don't even get me started
on the 3080's optics times. I mean this, this is game changing for students and prosumers
and even professionals looking to build affordable and powerful 3D rendering stations. SPECviewperf does bring us
back down to earth somewhat, with performance that's more in line with our gaming numbers,
which is a bummer, but at least it gives us a hint as to where NVIDIA may have been focusing when they came up with that double figure. Interestingly though, team red pulled off a
couple of wins here too. So, while the 3080 tops
the charts in most cases, it's not all powerful. And AMD's Big Navi announcement next month could extend some of those leads. Now, part of the rationale for choosing a Ryzen based GPU test bench was so that we could
test PCI Express Gen 3 versus Gen 4 starting with our review of the RX 5,700 XT. Unfortunately, we had
some issues to exercise, so that'll have to wait for
another day, get subscribed so you don't miss our deeper
dive on PCI Express Gen 4. For now, let's look at power draw. Using NVIDIA's PCAT tool, we captured this data
while running SPECviewperf on our NVIDIA cards here, and we can see that the RTX 3080 is sitting roughly 100 Watts
higher than the RTX 2080 Ti. Impressively hitting a lofty
maximum above 350 Watts. That is lot of juice,
ladies and gentlemen. And if the trend continues, it definitely explains why NVIDIA felt they needed this
new 12 pin connector. This power draw translates
into a significant increase in heap output as you
might expect as well. But it turns out the new
Founders Edition cooler design is nothing short of incredible. In spite of it drawing 100 Watts more, our 3080 maintained lower temperatures in a closed chassis than our 2080 Ti and boosted to roughly two gigahertz under full load throughout our testing. I mean, hey, it's
unconventional, you know, blowing air up here and
sucking air up through there, but gosh darn it, it works. At least for the GPU itself. One small detail NVIDIA
glossed over in their marketing is that all of this heat
has to go somewhere. And when we dug a little deeper,
well by jove, we found it. As it turns out, dumping heat
directly into your CPU and Ram makes them run hotter. We even made this little graph where you can see System
Thermals climbing by 10 degrees in a gentle arc across the board, indicating that it's not just SPECviewperf putting a load on these components, or we'd be seeing a spiky graph similar to our CPU and GPU temperatures. There is good news though, when we ran the same test with a Founder's Edition RTX 2080 Ti, we actually got even worse results indicating that the more
efficient system airflow that NVIDIA boasted
about for their cooler, actually manages to extend to the rest of the system as well. So good job guys. And there's more to the story here than performance and power alone. NVIDIA has become laser focused on system latency as a way
to market their products, even going as far as to seed press with the internal tools
that they use to measure it. And as it turns out,
that's for good reason. Now more frames per second does result in smoother animations, but since most gamers would probably say 100 FPS looks butter smooth. It's clear that this
smooth animation's benefit has already hit a wall
of diminishing returns. What doesn't seem to have
a limit yet, however, is the effect of higher frame rates on a gamer's actual performance. Last year, we demonstrated a
benefit in competitive play all the way up to 240 Hertz in this video featuring Shroud, Mr Grimmmz
Corey and Paul's Hardware. So then if the reason for this
improvement in gaming acumen isn't smoother animations,
well what is it? It's the responsiveness of the system. The more often the
image updates on screen, the less delay a gamer's gonna feel between the movement of their mouse and the corresponding crosshair, making it easier to track down opponents. Well NVIDIA Reflex, which
is launching today as well, takes this research NVIDIA's done and goes a step further than
even the ultra low latency mode that's been enabled in both NVIDIA and AMD's drivers since last year. And NVIDIA has worked with developers to improve rendering latency
directly in the game itself. With a CPU bound scenario,
it's not exactly a big deal. You're getting a very slight
improvement in response time with a bit more consistency. We're not sure what that plus
boost option is all about, but in Fortnite anyway, it
doesn't seem to do much, at least at high frame rates. Other games implementations may be better. NVIDIA says that Reflex
works best in GPU bound loads anyway though, and in that scenario, latency goes from 90 to 120 milliseconds to around 45 to 80 with Reflex enabled. That's huge. One of the biggest problems
with a low frame rate is low responsiveness. So the small sacrifice of one to two FPS ends up being a really good trade. The best part is that this
feature works all the way back to 900 series Maxwell GPUs. Great stuff. Also revolutionary is RTX IO, which uses the same
direct storage technology that Microsoft is integrating
into the Xbox Series X and Series X to allow the GPU to stream and decompress data
directly from an NVMe SSD using the CUDA course from an
RTX 2000 series card or newer. Now we can't test this feature yet because there are no games on
the market to support it yet, but we would expect gamers
to see similar benefits to what Sony showed off with
their analogous technology, with improvements to everything from texture resolution in
game, to even level design, eliminating things like
unnecessary elevator rides while the assets load in. But wait, there's more. What we also can't test is the reports that all AMPERE based cards support SRIO V at a hardware level. For the uninitiated, SRIO
V allows a single GPU to be shared between
multiple virtual machines, nevermind two gamers, one GPU. With performance like this, you could run a whole freaking land center off a single Threadripper
3990X and like four of these. I mean, this would be a
monumental shift from NVIDIA, considering that they've
locked down G-Force and virtual machines
since basically forever, or at least it would be. NVIDIA clarified with us that the reports of their change of
hardware sadly overstated. And as it turns out, just because they can support the feature, it doesn't mean that it's enabled. And sure enough, when we
fired up our 3080 in Linux, it didn't report any SRIO V capabilities. NVIDIA does say though
that the final decision on whether to enable it
or not has yet to be made. So it is still possible they'll enable it. Maybe if enough people tweeted them, Jensen will get the hint,
wink, wink, hint, hint, nudge, nudge, please. In summary then, just like last time we have no way of testing
some of the headline features and no time to test others
like NVIDIA broadcast, which we'll be sure to
do a follow up video on, but unlike last time, the raw performance and pricing are compelling enough story on their own. Even if NVIDIA overplayed
their hand a little. And unlike last time, the
big feature, you know, the one that's right in the name, the hardware support for
real time ray tracing has had a couple of years to mature with a much longer list of supported games to go along with graphics cards that are now actually powerful enough to turn the feature on without
tanking the frame rate. To be clear, it's still
not the kind of thing that I would personally
buy a new card over. But as far as added bonuses go, Ray Trace Minecraft is pretty sweet. And if you're looking for
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Well with all things considering. By the time the 3080 restocks I’ll have enough to buy a 3090.
Here are the relevant screens:
Moores law is dead on youtube allso discussed a compareable behaviour which was from digital foundry benchmark before the cards released.
In conclusions, some reviewers select specific game scenerios where fps is really good to make benchmark results favour in this case the 3080. To be honest I dont trust those youtube revieuwers like linus and digital foundry.
the bench marks on red dead are really whats make me want to upgrade my 1080ti. I get like 60-70fps on custom settings (most things on low or medium) @ 1440p
Benchmarks are at: 1:40 to 2:05, 3:16 to 3:44, And 11:45 to 11:52
https://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/geforce_rtx_3080_founder_review,12.html
Results on the ultra preset and these are accurate.
The scores in the video are not accurate at all. I have a 2080ti and it doesn't do 79fps on the highest (ultra) preset or even the high preset. Laughable for them to be implying that. It's more like 49 to low 50s.
I get 71fps with optimized settings at 4k which is a mix of normal, high, ultra. The 3080 with optimized settings should get around 100fps going by the 41% gain it has over the 2080ti at ultra.
Looking good, now to wait weeks for my preorder... (hopefully only weeks)
Would this thing be bottlenecked by a 4790k?
I bet I'll still get 0 FPS on it... given that the stupid fucking game wont load.