Theranos: BUSTED!

it's perhaps the greatest fraud in the history of the Silicon Valley tech bomb Elizabeth Holmes was everything Silicon Valley and the media could hope for a brilliant young female entrepreneur who dropped out of Stanford at the age of 19 to start a company called thoroughness this is what happens when you work to change things and first they think you're crazy then they fight you and then all of a sudden you change the world well not quite first they think you're crazy then they fight you then you'll come together for me with nine billion dollars ten nothing and you find yourself on trial for fraud a federal inspection report finds health startup fairness ran blood tests during a six-month period despite erratic quality control results this book reads like a novel about greed about chicanery and all the way about tragedy tragedy for what it did to the people who use the device I promise you that you will hate almost everyone connected with this company and but think they should belong in jail when you're through reading this she is the youngest self-made female billionaire in the world this is Elizabeth second public live interview the first was at the most powerful women's summit in October whenever there is a quote-unquote glass ceiling there's an iron woman right behind it a peak she was worth billions of dollars the company that she started at nineteen is valued at nine billion dollars you own over fifty percent of it right congratulations on that Forbes magazine has downgraded the net worth of Elizabeth Holmes from 4.5 billion dollars and nothing and yes the world's biggest tech scam was perpetrated by a woman along with some commercials that haven't aged quite so well I've always followed a challenge and I think I reason I got into engineering was because I looked at and I said that looks hard that's a challenge so I'm gonna do it I couldn't understand how someone could continuously lie it really changed my perception of her the article stated that their nose offers more than 200 blood tests without the need for a syringe everybody can do this I'm just a scientist who happens to be a woman but precisely how tharros accomplishes all these amazing feats is a trade secret but it never worked and there was a series and series and series of deceptive actions that were taking place usually my doctor asked me what do you do I can tell her exactly what I do it inspires her to it's so empowering and powerful to be a part of a company created by a woman who is so incredibly intelligent the FDA was so worried about patient safety that had banned the use of the Nana Tanner putting an end to all fingerstick tests at Walgreens and also nurturing and I think I think that's the role model that we need CMS conducted a surprise inspection of the Thera nose lab and found the blood testing so inaccurate that opposed the threat to patient safety I wanted to do something with my life that people thought was impossible before likely to cause serious injury harm or death CMS revoked the labs license to operate it we need more of these role models for young women high-flying CEO now facing prison time accused of masterminding a billion dollar fraud to see a woman leading such a strong company and and leading with these huge ideas and doing so in a very technical manner at the end of the day I wouldn't run them on myself I wouldn't run them on my family members laboratory testing because lab data drives 80 percent of clinical decision making and it just didn't make sense that internally we had so little faith in these tests but we're still resulting them on patients though she never went so far as to apologize to the thousands of patients whose health Theron OSes product had put it rest and how much that does inspire other young women to want to pursue these not only technical dreams but not to not be afraid to dream really big homes has been unmasked as a fraud and it's now facing possible criminal charge people talk about glass ceilings I always say that next to every glass ceiling there's an Iron Lady now the sort of money lost that we're talking he's difficult to put into perspective he kind of start to believe that maybe here the one who's crazy right because everyone else thinks this woman's great everyone else wants to throw money at her wants to be on board with this so it must be a part of it at its peak her company was valued at about nine billion dollars that about half of NASA's operating budget hell just send a probe to another planet like Pluto only costs about a billion dollars so for this sort of cash you've got to send a probe to every planet in the solar system but only one of those probes would have landed in the place where some of the locals were gullible enough to think that some magic beans or the promise of sematic beans was worth some nine billion dollars now in some ways I'm late to this party and part of that is kind of excusable this company was founded some three years before I even joined YouTube now bear in mind I'm want the veterans of YouTube going back to when the wider people offer creationist series which is kind of my main thing but even back there had I known about this I would have instantly laughed at it without fear of reprisal why because the original pitch of thorough notes was basically it's like Star Trek but better I mean these things up again like Star Trek but much much much much much better it was she unadulterated shameless sci-fi whore [Music] all that for a drop of blood that didn't withstand even the most superficial of scrutiny you see in Star Trek the doctors they at least had to wave something at yet to diagnose the problem and then inject you with something to solve it sir I was going to do all of that and more in a little wearable patch first it was a wristband that would feature these micro needles that would draw your blood and diagnose instantaneously what ailed you and then also instantaneously inject you with a drug the appropriate drug to cure you she wanted to incorporate micro fluidics and nano technology into a patch where you could sample the blood and detect an infection and then at that point deliver antibiotics to it she was a 19 year old she did ever thought she had any limits she was gonna conquer the world our patch was our first embodiment of an idea of how you could do this type of testing to realize the same dream so this is where it all started to go wrong the United States Patent buy homes a tile from 2007 for a medical advice for analyte monitoring and drug delivery and you get six meetings from the very very start abstract the invention relates to an ingestible implantable or wearable with a biological agent basically they say it's going to detect what's wrong with you and inject you with stuff afterwards and it goes bad very very very quickly so this is going to be the patch this is the skin so you know I mean you're only talking like a few millimeters thick and that's the drug release right this is the detector and this is their drug release I mean it just shows no concept of the physical bulk of things that you might want to release into the body he was gonna have low of microneedles ready to sample your blood at a moment's notice he would then analyze your blood it's going to connect to our Bluetooth to an informatics server and a Bluetooth huh receiver it would then send those analysis results back to a computer yes that little chip is gonna need a power supply and Wi-Fi on it and then the computer would diagnose what was wrong with you and sent that information back to your chip which would then inject you with a right drugs to kill all of your problems oh he didn't any would think of this before so why is this dumb well on so many levels look first of all many drugs are physically bulky let's take the example they were going for which was antibiotics you know the patch senses when you've got an infection and gives you some antibiotics antibiotics tablets are typically pretty bulky and we were talking like half a gram and they're not half a gram you know just so bulk them up that's solid antibiotic you're taking there so you need at least that much on your patch and that's of course assuming the antibiotics have a shelf life you know when they're being kept fairly warm occasionally getting wet and all that sort of thing well which brings us onto another problem how exactly are you gonna get that antibiotic into someone's blood I mean normally if you want to inject antibiotics into people you go for an IV drip or something well you can't do that it's impossible physically antibiotics are not potent you cannot do that does reason you have a big IV bag what you okay so I said I Elizabeth that's fun but I don't think that's gonna work okay so most drugs are a complete non-starter without some and anti freaking technology but that's not by a long way the only straight dead killer of a device like this anything that you inject into your blood has to be sterile because if you inject bacteria into your blood you run the risk of blood infection that can kill you in a few days so for a load of drugs this is a real problem that the aqueous solutions tend to be bug food and so now they can get warm or let the bacteria or fungus get into them it's not so good you've could have put a real effort into keeping this stuff sterile else when you start injecting people with this stuff they start dying from blood infections theranos ass originally pitched was poor for random blood infection patch she came back twice I think and I just really I try to help students but I just felt I can't help you you're not listening and this may be an interesting side if you've ever wondered why historically they've put things like thimerosal which is a fairly toxic mercury compound into vaccines it's essentially exactly for this reason most vaccines contain lots of biological fragments which means that the bacteria will quite happily set up home there so you need a way of keeping it sterile well you can keep it cold and that helps but also if you have kind of like a disinfectant in there as well that'll also stop the bacteria from from turning this this vaccine into a bacterial colony that you really really don't want to inject into people so this is the thing that thimerosal essentially acts like Bleacher a single dose of which really isn't gonna hurt you and just to throw that in too harsh perspective a typical vaccine will contain about 25 micrograms of mercury whereas a decent tuna steak will contain about four times that amount but of course there was lots of panic about mercury in vaccines and vaccines causing autism and even though there was no real evidence that any of this was connected they actually phased out a lot aerosol in vaccines anyway where were we oh yes Elizabeth Holmes and her better than Star Trek device yes this little device is gonna analyze your blood diagnose what's wrong with you and inject you with a right thing to make you better Oh at this point I don't know why she even bothered with a hole let's have it Bluetooth communicate with other computers we're not just integrator a mini supercomputer on a nano chip in there and have done I mean really at this point it would have done nothing nothing to decrease how plausible this device is now there's this suggestion that she was faking her deep voice to make it all sound when she didn't have a low voice she didn't know what was her voice like when she was like a typical undergrad student when I next saw her again was at the Harvard Medical School Board meeting where she was being introduced my god we didn't know that it wasn't her voice until much later I think I was at one of the company parties and maybe she had a little bit too much to drink or whatnot but she fell out of character and exposed that that wasn't necessarily her return true voice and this is before you start thinking of the problems with the device you know all right so I'm gonna have this huge stockpile of drugs around on my arm and a computer that is ready to inject me at a moment's notice I mean justjust consider the ethical problems that we have with self-driving cars now all of a sudden all it's gonna take is like one spasm from this device and it's gonna inject you with everything but what happens if I fall over and land on my patch like I was saying this thing didn't even survive the most superficial of scrutiny and this is before we came up with the idea was being proposed by a 19 year old you founded this company 12 years ago right tell him how old we were I was 19 don't worry about the future we're in good hands he basically had no knowledge of medicine no knowledge of chemistry their knowledge of biochemistry diagnosis or computers so how exactly did this become a billion-dollar idea well believe it or not she actually got over a million dollars for the Star Trek device she was a good storyteller that's part of her seductiveness which why she was able to raise all this money by February 2005 the 21 year old had already raised around six million dollars yes you thought people were crazy for supporting solar roadways and cell filling water bottles although to be fair that was from one of her million-dollar neighbors you know the ones we always go to when we ever have an idea you know just to give us a few million dollars to start things up she didn't actually want to go to some of the traditional investors because she would have to prove that this was something that was even on a remotely far off distant world something that you could do so one person she went to was this guy Tim Draper who was a family friend I ended up giving her her first million dollar check everything seemed possible in 2004 yeah so late billionaire seems to carry a little less weight when you're in the class of people why even just got a a few million dollars cash injection from a neighbor he but even people like Holmes realized fairly soon on but the original idea originally marketed at this real time cures was so far-fetched they wouldn't even put it into Star Trek they toned it down a bit this time they were gonna waltz into the blood testing field without even taking a blood sample oh sorry only taking a single drop of blood basically about this time you're getting things like blood glucose monitors coming out and a single drop of blood you get a fairly reasonable idea of your blood glucose so why don't we just do one of those that runs every conceivable test that you possibly run on blood I mean why is no one thought of this before we've made it possible to run comprehensive laboratory tests from a tiny sample or a few drops of blood they could be taken from a finger yeah what the chances that the teenager who was proposing Star Trek and still has no science medical or engineering education he's now gonna revolutionize an established field like blood testing our pending the existing paradigm this parsley inefficient and painful for the client namely you for innovation has fueled anticipation in the healthcare industry established by thousands of people by science degrees engineering degrees medical degrees it's just she's gonna do it with one hundredth of the amount of blood the company says it can run up to 40 different tests on a tiny sample of blood and a hundred times cheaper her mission is to allow blood testing in every drugstore at a fraction of Medicare costs I mean this is genius why did no one think of this before and I'll give you some spoilers now she couldn't and was never even close to it not that that stopped them from taking it to market the puncture will be made [Music] the collection tubes will now be held up to the drop sorry was that I was momentarily distracted by what it says on the video these technology is not being cleared or approved by the FDA and is not on sale in the United Center blood wick into the channels the Nano tanner tubes are then removed and the sample can be processed immediately they also runs from the most disgusting and emotionally manipulative and misleading efforts that I have ever seen anywhere mom we really are an important part of our family because we really love you so much I didn't need that much blood they're overdoing it well I was wondering if you would take a blood test for us which is one drop of blood one drop your health is really important to us the kids adore you there are no skip cards because nothing is more important than the health of those you love the same little thing can do exactly what the other vials did yeah that's like life-changing did miss Holmes know at the time that their nose could not do so in reality all I did was run some regular blood tests on people for a bit drawn by sticking needles into people's arms finally published its first peer-reviewed paper and a scientific journal about it's the last iteration of its technology the mini lab we've made it possible to run comprehensive laboratory tests from a tiny sample or a few drops of what and what was amazing about it is the study had been conducted with regular blood draws as soon as I sit I start to hyperventilate no it's coming and you know it's gonna with the you know the old fashioned way with the big syringe except that blood tests were all over the place and in the end about a million of them had to be voided now by all accounts miss I want to be a billionaire truly believed in her vision so much so that she wasn't gonna let some trivial details like reality mess it up I had a guaranteed military sale with ed-209 renovation program spare parts for 25 years who cares that it worked or not she surrounded herself with a board of powerful old men well all-star board of directors her board was made up of some of the biggest names in history yep not a single woman on the board so empowering and powerful to be a part of a company created by a woman who is so incredibly intelligent you still don't have any women on the board right okay all right and I think I think that's the role model that we need we need more of these role models for young women no that's the most surprising thing not a single person with the science or medical background on her board Elizabeth has on her board 3x cabinet secretaries two former senators and retired military officers and she lied to them in this 2010 PowerPoint Theron Oh showcased an early version of Edison a portable blood testing machine that could be deployed in pharmacies all over the world according to Walgreens Theron Oh said their technology have been comprehensively validated and was viable and consumer ready the information is only actionable if it is of the highest level of integrity I think about it as my mom goes to get a test in one of these locations I want to know every single time that that data is flawless no matter what Pharaoh's boasted the device could eliminate the need for a lab by doing up to 200 tests in minutes from a fingerprint drop of capillary blood and she sold a magic beans hot the world in which you don't have to say goodbye to save world in which people don't have to say goodbye to say goodbye too soon she lied to the press she probably lie to herself after all she was now a superstar and her active charity and goodwill had revolutionized blood tests and had already made her a billionaire the unique home promises the lying to investors lying to the press and of course they vicious litigation against people who knew it didn't work do you recall a time when Tyler came to your home and there were some attorneys from the boy chiller firm there I wouldn't call him attorney so they come in and they give me a notice to appear in court in about 36 hours temporary restraining order the man was some sort of an animal wild animal and he assaulted my grandson and of course non-disclosure agreements had to be signed a giant stack of paperwork saying you can't speak poorly about the company you're legally liable for any detriment caused to the company it's like who's writing these contracts they used their pile of money and they threatened to see everyone else he spoke to The Wall Street Journal they even hired private investigators to stalk anyone they suspected and you know just people's general desire for this to be true kept them afloat and running for about a year but then thanks to a whistleblower the FDA took a look under the bonnet and in very short order they were banned from doing blood tests for about two years yeah the blood testing company not just a blood testing company the blood testing company that was going to be so revolutionary it would revolutionize blood testing now if you remember Holmes was a Stanford dropout at 19 but she became a billionaire when she founded ther no switch promises cheap and quick blood tests can tell you if you have any health ailments including cancer but the accuracy of those tests came under scrutiny and that sparked an investigation by the federal government now the feds are telling Elizabeth Holmes they don't care if she is the founder of Thera notes are banning her from owning and operating allowed for two years the company had nothing it's great invention of the Nano tanner was never validated for FDA testing in fact the only real sort of intellectual property that they had was a test for herpes how very apt now in Silicon Valley this this sort of unicorn culture of people coming up with great ideas and making billions from it yesterday with the president of Brazil for lunch and this woman had invited me and Eric Schmidt from Google and Mark Zuckerberg but basically all these things are emerging markets and the Airbnb guys and the uber guys and a bunch of other people so for instance if you have the first touchscreen you can really clean up blood test ain't like that at all it's an established market and she says the strategic priority of Brazil is to get access to low-cost Diagnostics that can facilitate early detection and prevention and further it was established by people who understand the biological complexity of this system they're analyzing they're not some dt teenager with the I want to be a billionaire complex is asked by relatives what do you want to do when you grow up and she answers immediately I want to be a billionaire and the relative says don't you want to be President and she says no the president will marry me because I'll have a billion dollars I mean let's start with the obvious ah the bloody obvious blood is in the astronomically complicated system sure there are some things they does that are fairly simple and fairly easy to work out like the main thing it does dissolve oxygen so eating a little finger clip blood oxygen meter for about 20 bucks sigh this here is a little finger clip oxygen meter so turn it on stick a thumb in now or something and in fairly short order you should come up with a pulse no pulse and blood oxygen and all sorts of fun things of this like yeah hold your breath there yeah what's the response time of the blood oxygen quite fun like that anyway if you're interested in that sort of thing I'll put some links to my amazon store below and they give us a fairly sensible result so you can get a blood glucose test which from a finger prick of blood will give you a sensible idea of your blood glucose but then there's the lower concentration of stuff where you need a nice consistent sample to even stand a chance of measuring it accurately here finger sticks start to struggle the water when you consider that most people actually find the finger stick more painful than the needle you know fingers lots of nerves that sort of thing and of course once you've got the needle in you can take pretty much however much blood you want after all this is how people give blood meanwhile if you preach your finger of course one of the first things that happens is the Blood starts to clot and it starts to hila now he's a limited time to get your blood if your pricking your finger so typically you do a venous draw if you want to do lots of tests on the harder to detect stuff you know where all those ruptured capillaries might significantly contaminate the result not really the stuff that you can do easily on a single drop of finger blood prick their fingers and then draw blood and put it in a device and as it turned out like if you screwed up the introduction of the blood into this cartridge like game over so wouldn't work it would be inaccurate yeah you would get a wildly wrong result I mean it's one of the first things they do with those big vials of blood that they get out for you is separate out the red blood cells so you can do tests on the plasma and such like and they want to do everything 70 70 to 200 tests on a single drop of blood so our work is in making lab data accessible and we've done that by making it possible to do any lab test from a tiny drop of blood from a finger then of course when you get your results that will mean absolutely nothing to almost the entire population and you're just gonna have to ask a doctor to interpret it for you that being said when my dad was dying cancer I absolutely hated that everything had to go through the doctors most of which seemed inured to the lousy survival rates of liver cancer which seemed to come through in how diligently they reviewed a lot of these results simply to get access to your data from the NHS required you to fill in Freedom of Information forms and then you had to wait about a month I followed my dad's blood tests daily and was plotting them up and inspecting the CT and MRI scans in a way the doctors simply weren't but I gotta be honest before then I simply had no idea what any of these blood tests meant you gonna show me a series of blood tests and I would have had absolutely no idea what any of it meant and likewise I'm pretty sure most members of the public wouldn't have the slightest clue what any of this meant if the lab data will put directly into their hands so our work is in making lab data accessible bear in mind this was basically the entire sales pitch from thorough noise people don't like being poked with needles so we're gonna make it a hundred times smaller and then we're gonna make you a hundred times cheaper pain free quicker cheaper now there are areas where this sort of thing might be plausible say for instance the early computer chips would be a good example of this this is not one of those areas so it's maybe more wood comparable things like the internal combustion engine so someone comes up and says people are tired that cars need to be full up with expensive gasoline so we're gonna make you a car that is a 100 times more efficient and people don't like those big smelly engines so we're gonna make the engine a hundred times smaller I wondered at the time how exactly or she miniaturizing 200 different tests and how exactly were you gonna get all of this done in small analyzers and we're gonna make them go 100 times faster or a hundred times quieter and she was charging so much less than the others so all of that strained produit e and a hundred times cheaper she would know that these people will full of crap car engines operate fairly near the thermodynamic limit there really isn't that much scope for improvement in the performance but the stunning thing is just how many people sign up to this promise I mean it stuns me to this day the a demonstrably empty promise could be worth nine billion dollars so let's see a quick history of theranos they promised something so futuristic II look not even they could believe it well well that follow the patents of course then they scale that back to doing micro fluidics blood analysis together I can tell you would be immediately complicated by things like just the blood clotting and messing everything up bad whatever micro fluidics these nano container that then they scale this back even further to okay we're now going to do exactly the same blood tests as everyone else we just give it to them a smaller and cheaper o+ we're gonna do it using a totally secret machine then no one can ever say and when they couldn't even deliver that they said okay we're just going to do regular blood tests and they couldn't even do that the gulf between their ambition and their ability was staggering and yes there were actually voices of reason that there are no decent scientist sorts like this guy and what would start off as a very serious brainstorming meeting would turn into a two-hour conversation about the name of the cloud that's gonna process the information who you might recognize comes out with some sort of a fairly familiar grievances about their machine timeout how big does this box need to be to abide by the laws of thermodynamics and actually function and save people's lives maybe that's more important than the name of the cloud at this point I've got one word for you Hyperloop this is another idea the people are pouring hundreds of millions of dollars into like savings since the Indian Hyperloop 500 million just a complete phase 1 of the project it's gonna connect Mumbai and Pune some 200 kilometers away and the trip will take some 35 minutes let's see 200 kilometers in half an hour it's about 400 kilometers per hour brilliant so this thing isn't going to be as fast as current maglev trains whatever happened to a thousand kilometers per hour this is before they've even tried to build a Hyperloop that can take a single passenger hell a single living thing before they try to built a 200 government tube it can merely hold a decent vacuum when they try to do that the fact that the technical problems this thing Allegiant I'm telling you now thorough notes is a much more plausible proposition than the Hyperloop mmm secret pleasure in watching billionaires get duped out of millions of dollars the founders of Walmart invested 150 million media mogul Rupert Murdoch 125 million and the DeVos family including now Education Secretary Betsy DeVos a hundred million and this is a vicarious pleasure of watching really powerful people back really dumb ideas her board was made up of some of the biggest names in history but you'll notice that no one with medical credentials was fooled right I mean and this just beggars belief she was given a chair on the Harvard Medical School big to Elizabeth and was told that she was gonna be unavailable all day she was being inducted into the Harvard Medical School Board of fellows I was just stunned I was thinking in my mind you know the Wall Street Journal is just said that you're a fraud and that your company is a fraud and the company I put on the cover our magazine is a fraud that's great she was given honorary doctorates Elizabeth is getting the Horatio Alger award she is the youngest person to ever get the Horatio Alger award since the Horatio Alger award was invented in 1947 in 1947 it's gonna be said the thorough notes were through and through shameless lies about this stuff utterly utterly shameless liars like in 2014 where they claimed their revenue stream were some hundred million dollars in actuality yeah the company made about a hundred thousand dollars and they would constantly tell that board how well their device worked and how it was even currently being used by the army in things like MIDI fax it's never deployed she was challenged sentence-by-sentence on what she told fortune in that star making cover story but what you're about to witness is simply one of the most devastating act of denial to someone being completely blown out of the water that currently offers more than 200 and is ramping up to offer more than 1,000 of the most commonly ordered blood diagnostic tests all without the need for syringes because that statement correct really you don't think it is for years you were going around lying to people's faces about it saying how it needed to be so reliable that your mom could use it I think about it as my mom goes to get a test in one of these locations I want to know every single time that that data is flawless no matter what the you wouldn't have to have said goodbye too soon to your uncle but of course the TED talk was merely an act in reality she wasn't even close to her uncle and had just exploited his death for her narrative now after voiding a million or so blood tests one of the headlines was 9 billion dollar company down to zero it's probably the most important question I think anybody who's watching has about this does it work yes you're confident in that I am comforting that said that's the story of one of the biggest Kickstarter scams sorry startup scams in history now at this point I've got to say that my recent video on the corona virus got be monetized after manual review which means there's someone actually looked at it and decided sorry too edgy for YouTube advertisers and for reasons that I've never understood Google hates me in that if you know it was recently in Germany and they decided to Google my most recent video so this is what you get when you search in an incognito window for Thunderfoot latest videos now you'd have thought that Google would yeah you know bring up my latest video here - a search for something like this but instead you get a video from an interview I did with Dave Rubin you get a video busting me there's another video of criticizing me another video criticizing me it's underfoot wrong about Hyperloop yeah the other yeller another video critters basically every single video is that being promoted is something that is criticizing me so let's cut this down a bit and just go for Thunderfoot and YouTube and it's basically exactly the same you know when you do a search for Thunderfoot and YouTube you get a video playlist which is not actually one of my video playlists and you I am completely airbrushed out of history here my there is no link if you do a search for Thunderfoot in youtube in google you don't get a link to my channel so let's try Thunderfoot busted right that's one of my a great series and again there is absolutely no videos here at all from Google that actually go to my busting videos none whatsoever now when you do this on YouTube it's a little different you search a Thunderfoot and I come straight up I either Thunderfoot busted and you basically get a load of my busting videos so you know yeah YouTube doesn't mind me so much Google on the other hand it's kinda we had a history so for the obvious reasons a degree of independent support is kind of helpful under these circumstances because it's the nearest thing I'm gonna get to job security here and of course the freedom to be independent and do videos that I think are important like a factual analysis of the coronavirus and if you want to join the people who support this channel you can do it through patreon and I'll leave the links below and [Music] you [Music]

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Length: 41min 13sec (2473 seconds)

Published: Sun Feb 23 2020

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[u/paul081]

What's really new about this ? It started to be extremely interesting and shocking story , ATM it become extremely hard to hear that fake voice and repetitive clips , couldn't pass the 2 minutes mark