Tay K's Uncle JayR & Beefy Loc Tell Us The Real Story of Tay K & His Crip Upbringing

no jumber coolest podcast in the world and uh today we got a very very interesting conversation taking place on this podcast um okay let's just do the introductions first so that everybody can get on the same page introduce yourself beefy L from East Side Long Beach you know I mean Dad gang dog Pam okay and and I'm Jr uh J.R McIntyre uh people know me as TK's Uncle Ricky Harris's nephew um I'm really tapped in my city Long Beach and that's my uncle right there for sure yeah and so okay I was under the impression that we were going to be having a conversation with his mom as well what what is the status of that and exactly what's going on with that well his mom you know she deals with a lot of uh backlash I'm sure you know social media a lot of hate a lot of texts a lot of DMS a lot of uh people don't that don't understand my nephew's case and what my sister been through to go through that she went into depression she went into hid and she started taking drugs U my uncle will let you know a lot about that but she I had to go get her recently and Rehab her and get her and love her back because she took that heart on herself that her son got that situation and she wasn't there fully to be his mother all the way you know what I'm saying so people don't know that story they know that my nephew went to jail but they don't know what my sister did to try to prevent all that situation and what happened right so she's still in Texas nuh she lived with me okay in California no in Florida in Florida yeah okay yeah I live in Florida now got it yeah okay cuz yeah I was going through the details of the case and stuff and one interesting thing I don't know if you know this is that I do a podcast with a guy named DW flame from Long Beach who represents my baby insane Crips out of Long Beach one of the bigger gangs from out there and at the time of TK being born she was actually associated with that although I believe that she later on left that no no she's still from I mean my mother from insane my mom my sister a lot of my cousins a l of my uncles and then a lot of my uncles and aunties on the other side is from 20s this is Beefy Loki from 20 [ __ ] um from East Side that's my mentor that's my big homie um he told me a lot of the game when I was little So Long Beach is a big family so yeah we know DW okay yeah and yeah okay definitely great man uh but so the the interesting thing I guess about TK well tell me a little bit about what you know to have been his mom's situation when he was born because a lot of specul when the story is told of TK online it's frequently told as a story about you know a kid whose parents basically weren't around or were kind of fully in the streets that wasn't true though okay yeah so that's why I'm here to clarify that because you know what I'm saying I am her brother she lives with me we went through a lot so me and my sister was born in uh Long Beach California uh our mother was uh she was a crackhead so we was born in that that crack that 8s crack baby uh uh situation you know um after we were born we moved to Los Angeles to 101st in Avalon and um you know it was me and my dad and my sister my mom was still dealing with a lot of situations she happened um to sell my sister to a drug house for and that's really started the The Snowball Effect for a sister of what age my sister uh I think she had to be four or five years old sold her to a house for what purposes get more she didn't have the money they took the my so the story is they took my sister through the window my mom got the and she bounced what what were they supposed to do with the kid back in the 80s you know what I'm saying we don't know what happened to my sister in the house and she experienced a lot of trauma that's where the story ends you just you never were able to figure out what happened well um they they said that she was touched on in there it was a lot of things that that speculated she was a little girl in house so I mean everybody got to put they their imagination together what happened so I I don't like to to talk about it I was I was younger but experienced these things before her kids were even born and my mother you know so to after that my mother passed away of HIV when I was eight or n years old so we we suffered that we lost our mom yeah at at a younger age and um it was hard for us so my sister was never right after that you know my we had our dad and my dad was strong he's from Long Beach uh he's a preacher you know um he did his best to to to instill discipline into us but all we knew was gang activities and Drug activities you know when I was in the third grade I got put on my hood my sister started gang banging insane when she was like in her teens so my sister and my mother both from Insane [ __ ] and Long Beach so I mean you you could tell the story so now you know what we saw and what product we was coming from so then on after that my dad took me after my sister ran away cuz she just you know she wasn't getting her situation together I let her out the house when she ran away in North Long Beach so she ran away and I never seen her no more after that really so I was like sporadically see her um in the streets in the park hanging out with her with her Section doing all these all these things as a kid growing up I would see her because we two years two and a half years behind M so I graduated from high school she didn't so she was out there in the streets um you know down on the east side of Long's doing what she had to do and then yeah just to survive because that's all we knew you know our mother left us in that situation I listen a little bit more to my father and she she went the other way to figure out life and I always tell people all the time if my sister wasn't she would be dead because she was I saw her do things harder than the hardest you know that I know and it's no no no diss to anybody else but she was with all the because we saw it with our aunties our uncles our cousins all our cousins gang bang all our uncles all our aunties my mama was from the so Environ the environment and I can't tell this lone be story without bringing you know a beefy Lo because when we were growing up we were looking at them he ran with Snoop he ran with dog pound if you look at their old footages you will see he was like one of their bodyguards but he was he was the he was the the muscle man he was really in the streets whatever they was rapping about that's what he was doing so he would go to prison I couldn't see him he would come home go to prison so his mentor [ __ ] will be brief with me but hey stay on the right road but then my other Uncle Ricky Harris is a comedian I don't know right right yeah so he died so when he died it brought me back to Long Beach to get more um integrated back with my family because I yeah he pushed me to the Army push them to because the choice was outside but the point is the circumstance where we at you hear the gang bang or it that's it yeah so you you you speaking to a generation of people to where their their circumstance was like a bowl a fishbowl m but that because these women we were never given morality or spirituality we were given condition so like for him to evolve and come from these things the better thing is to understand that PE some people will always be a victim of what happened to them right and the strength to get past it that's the issue because we can blame blame but people don't understand that a a child that missed something will never get that back so every wounded child is the thing that is a product of these things yeah like you are who you are but you have a moral and a certain Compass about yourself because your parents gave that to you but other people when it's your choice they're not as strong as you and other people can't but you look at things and say why but I won't judge you because of your actions I'm going judge you on what you're trying to do and that's and that's what I said cuz he's he's a very reputable OG in Long Beach so he was a reason why my life started to change because him my Uncle Ricky Harris a lot of the people in the neighborhood was like Hey after I went to County Jail go to the Army so we talked about it and I my dad was pressing me to go and I was rebuking it and I was running with the homies and um when I once I got out of County Jail I was in the Army 2 weeks later and I never looked back and I left because the towers fell in 200 and I left in 2002 to go fight a different War I I was leaving one war in Long Beach because it was rough and then going to the Army so I rather do it for the Army so from 2002 to 201617 I was away so that mentorship years a lot longer than the average person does exactly and I and I and I I was in combat you know what I'm saying I got injured in Iraq and Afghanistan I did my thing and I got out and I wanted to selfly serve but that mentorship my sister didn't have a lot of people paint that story on on social media about his parents but they really don't understand the struggle she had to even be her she didn't have a chance to do anything all we knew was turmo and I know this story goes around and it's poor me but no I wanted to justify it and clarify it at the same time and say you know why she was having kids she was still a kid and trying to figure out why her mama died of AIDS and why she was sold to a drug house at an early age so me to me and her why did our our mom give up on us right because a lot of people their gut reaction even to me see to seeing me having this conversation would be to say TK was a monster why are you trying to humanize him why are you trying to show a portrayal of him when he allegedly you know took people's lives and all this type of [ __ ] then you rewind the clock and you look at his mother and you realize the situation she was in but then the stuff you said about her mother you got to rewind it even more and say look this is a long systematic series of events that are very unfortunate to just say t was a monster is a gross oversimplification of the situation right and I have to deal with that sometimes the fact that that's is my nephew we had we carry the same last name I had to discontinue a lot of people that was like your nephew's a murderer you don't even know what happened in that situation you know if you first of all if you had a child or someone you loved you would you be cautious how you stepped on that situation third of all F like you got to understand we all human beings right we go through some things if if you take the shell off to covering then you could point the finger at me because what I did in Iraq and Afghanistan I I I did the same thing but he never did that I really went to war and did that this was a baby out there trying to figure out why his mama was away dealing with situations foster care him and his sister Kayla shout out to Kayla and my other nephew Cameron that's his brother that my sister left in Mississippi so they don't know these stories of my sister kids and once she had her kids she dipped out because she didn't understand herself because of mental health so that's why I had to go back and get my sister she been living with me now for almost 3 years and I had to love her back to health because God was like Jr like if you going to continue this path and Mentor kids and beat yourself up for not mentoring TK that S 55 years you got to go get the go got to go get the beginning which is my sister and and love her and when when it's time then she can give that love back to her kids it's not over paint the picture for people who are listening to this of exactly how out of control Long Beach was at the time because I feel like a lot of people might go there now it's been gentrified there's a lot of nice little shops and [ __ ] there's nice areas like Signal Hill that people move to to live nice comfortable lives but let me say this I'm sure it wasn't always like that let me say this it's like this see me there's always right and wrong in everything mhm okay now when you outside and you choose a rule that you don't know what it mean and so everybody makes a mistake but the mistake gives us the courage to be a better person M so the depth of what you know and how you look at something because when people get hurt when people get hurt the person that did it is wrong and the person that got hurt was wrong but there's always a space right here that a reality like this myself to die and my survival and if these environments produce that I'm a product of my environment I'm not defending my wrong I'm defending my life mhm see what I'm saying the Cho it's like my opinion is any man or woman or child that has been hurt if you have the courage to share that and teach somebody else that pain that you acquired you're selfish in Long Beach for me man like growing up like it was it was it was a different like element like people judge Long Beach of what they see now but it was a war zone you know growing up especially against each other and then like people don't know uh lom's our biggest rival is the Mexican right so growing up walking to school as a 8 9 10 year old we shut our Middle School down with a riot Mexicans against blacks and we shut our high school down two years in a row with a riot two years in a row and people stabed people hurt people throw over thrown over the science building and these are gangs right so and these are situations that we go to school and deal with and have to be able to succumb that and understand and build hard skin because either you get bagged on or you on them back or you get socked on or you or you sock on them back so what you going to do so where you going to be from and all my all my my family was all from the east side of Long Beach I'm the only one that stayed North Long Beach and I rep I reped that part really well and because that's where I came from but all my inspiration is from from from from L beast period and we sck together like our family everything like if we go to like cow wck or if we go out to a park or somewhere you see some like like P nice I know P nice shout out ni out to P shout out to SAI like back in the day I was Sai bodyguard really I was his body like I got footage you know what I'm saying shout out to them and they they and they keeping the city lit and when when in Long Beach we stay strong and and I got that concept from back in the day in the ' 80s they used to call Long Beach strong beach and why because we all programmed we all ate good we worked out we were educated and people don't understand a lot of the martial arts came from Long Beach so that's why I study my martial arts and that's why I do what I do because at the end of the day Long Beach what they is Warriors you know you understand you got to be a warrior and that's the Army we don't have we don't have other gangs it's 90% Crips everybody else in the the Hispanics MH and the issue with the Black and Hispanic thing is just because of the The Elements of Life that's it but see the thing about it I know the platform you say and but what I'm saying is the issue of the way that we communicate as far as gang people it has to come to a point to where we evolve to understand that we're hurting oursel and the the results of this is the damage that we commit to even though you're defending yourself because there is a right and wrong and there's a a right and and right but nobody gets the picture of our society it's like yeah he miss 20 19th Street feel me West CO so what but it's like you know you know where you were born but guess what where were you born like New Hampshire okay listen so if a from New Hampshire fly here right now and somebody kicking his ass just because he's from New Hampshire isn't it your job no you get it now different place thank you no you hear what I'm saying it's not like long bit no no no that's not what I'm saying no that it is but got nothing to do you get what I mean and we have to grow up now that what you just said forign is my point no it's not it's my the exact thing I'm saying you're like this I am above that but I was raised under this fatherless condition right you understand what I mean so a child only can blame the parenting but the child would never take the blame because they had to a lot the parenting but us being human feel me and cuz we're not being Mankind we don't we're not mankind because okay whatever happens we're supposed to judge him I got dirty hands I'm supposed to judge you but we in a we in too much in a depth of a way of judgment and characterizing things that situationally happen as a great event but we can never change yesterday we can only be the better us I'm not I don't a lot a room for to pay exposure of to determine right and wrong when a when no this guy when you have a baby there ain't no handbook nobody gave you a handbook on how you're going to be your father you don't evening know yet but what you're going to do to maintain and do that and learn how to do it is whatever condition you're liveing so the better man you are but when you get an opportunity to be spoken to and speaking with the opinion of comprehension should be portrayed first right not a portrayal of I this is my understanding I believe right and wrong [ __ ] that I don't know what that person chose to be right and wrong somebody's dead that's [ __ ] up but there's always a uniqueness no matter what tragedy to find courage to better something mhm because we you're you're going to be put in a situation where you have to defend it he is everybody is but everything and every individual don't have the audacity or courage lacking to be great at being a great person for sure how well did you know TK's father um I knew Kevin a lot he's from Long Beach no he from Compton Compton okay yeah so he was a Compton [ __ ] okay yeah yeah so he was a Compton he was he was from uh uh Compton and um you know I remember him and my sister going to the prom I remember meet uh meeting him the day uh after I think they they I guess they linked up and stuff like that so you know he was he was active in the streets actually his father um before the kids were born was in a a driveby shooting sitting in the car and his best friend and him got shot in the car his best friend died and he got shot a bunch of times riddled and almost died so wow and that was in Compton and that was in the in the 90s okay I remember that and TK's mom your sister had how many kids before him before TK yeah she had Kayla okay Kayla yeah Kayla It's Kayla TK and then Cameron who has done interviews on like seese and [ __ ] like that so her story is out there as well but so then how long at what point did they move or at what point did his dad get locked up I guess cuz he did a long bid there right yeah his dad his dad and both and his mom was back and forth to jail since the uh early 2000s back and forth and so he was in foster homes a bunch and stuff yeah so when my sister would go to jail he' go to foster care when um he his daddy would be getting out his daddy would get for U go for the kids but I remember vividly when I was stationed in Fort Bliss that I had an opportunity to um get them as foster kids and bring them into my household they came and checked out my house they did all the paperwork I was good and then his dad was getting out of jail so the dad took the kids and I felt like that's where I hold my myself to the fire was I was almost I because I would see my nephew and my niece when I got back from deployment I would go pick them up they was in Colleen Texas and I would go see them in in different parts of Texas and bring them back to me and vacation with me for a couple of weeks or a month and get to know them and love them because I I was the one that brought them back from Mississippi to California as babies people don't know that story my sister got left for dead in the in the in the um in the woods in Mississippi it was a um domestic violence charge that her father um that their that their dad did to my sister and I never forgave him for that and um almost killed my sister and left her in Mississippi so I had to take the babies and bring bring them back to California wow yeah and I was only 17 or 18 holy [ __ ] yeah so people don't see that story too so cayb was four he was two so he was a baby okay and so he spent a lot of time in California as a young kid or was he did he spend most of his childhood in Texas no so um California in Mississippi as a um like two to like six and then from like 7 to like the rest of the time they went my sister in Vegas and then to Texas so people they got took in Vegas from a foster care my sister went to jail and then they got put in the system and that's how they ended up in Texas okay and so do you remember um having any conversations with TK about the gang thing because he had a lot of cripp related lyrics like even at a certain point him doing all the crazy stacked gang signs together became like kind of like this iconic image of him for a lot of people they just couldn't believe they were looking at a kid this young who knew you know 15 different gang signs that he was putting all together and [ __ ] like that like what was his Early Education into all that well you know he saw he was a product of his environment he saw his his dad his dad was a [ __ ] his mama um was still banging so they like that's that's a [ __ ] family so he saw that and then who my sister had him around early early in his baby years and early in his his um one digits from like probably one to about nine probably probably more than that he he I don't know if you guys know the legendary rapper that come out of Long Beach tryd so my sister on here before yeah yeah a shout out to trye um he my sister was best friends with his wife so TK was raised around his current wife too right no um the wife before that I think oh okay cuz I remember he had a woman with when he came to do the interview a few years back yeah I don't I don't want to cross you I don't know which one it is but I know my sister was um best friends with his wife before so um TK and Kayla was always around all the insanes all the babies so Tamar start claiming babies because a lot of my uncles and a lot of my cousins are from babies in insane so that's twoo different insane is the umbrella and underneath is you know babies and and all the other stuff that goes on with uh East that part of Long Beach so he started to develop that way so when I would get him and see him I would try to get teach him more tactical stuff I was in the military so hey this is what you do because he was always infatuated with um martial arts and um shooting so I would go out there and do certain things with water guns and BB just to show him and do some things with him and that's what he wanted to do so I was like okay he might be a cop he want to be military but you know what I'm saying you know in his mind it was still fresh but he always been smart at uh music though I remember him making music in the closet in Texas and um buying him some um keyboards and doing certain things he's always been lyrical always wrapped all the 50 Cent lyrics shout out to 50 Cent always wrapped all the uh Eider Lyrics Always wrapped all the dog pound like he knew him like it was that little kid you put in the back of the car and you put on the song and he he he uh wrapped everything M so definitely and so how how much time did you end up spending in Texas while he was out there and was he just out there with the Foster [ __ ] or his mom ended up meeting him out there at some point his mom his dad and his uh his grandfather lives out there so he bounced around them situation so I would see him like probably every spring break summertime him and I got some pictures that I could I could dump to guys is s that at his earlier years before he was anything so um he he was there with my kids hanging out um I was still active in the Army I didn't retire till 2016 so right which is like immediately before he ended up catching his charge and everything right right exactly yeah so I remember that day vividly um his uh video going viral and people was playing it and it was like uh his last name is MacIntyre and I'm like oh I you know I ain't tripping I'm all over the world like this can't be nothing nobody I'm talking about and when they showed me it was my nephew and I was like that's my nephew and people didn't believe it like no you saying it so candidly I'm like that is that's my sister's son so you know and it was crazy cuz I don't know if you saw my conversation I had with my sister on my my platform she was telling me I said how did you hear how did you find out about this type of song and she said she was walking up Compton Boulevard and the beauty supply story was playing the music and she heard it she was like that's my son he played that for me before who got that song and was on the radio circulated and she get she went in there dancing and doing her thing they and they was like get out of our store like she was like no that's my son look at our picture so yeah so so okay but before just before we get to the race and everything were you aware of his dad abusing him because that's something that's been kind of reported in a bunch of the uh documentaries and stuff is that his dad when he got out of prison that began like a different type of life for him where he was getting beat up and [ __ ] right Kayla um I heard her talk about it vividly and I heard um him talk about it on platforms it didn't get told to me but I mean you know I just told you already what happened to my sister in Mississippi so you put two and two together you know just like again it ain't no shout to him or try to damage his character but all I know about is what happened with my sister and I heard the abuse with the kids so right and then okay there was another situation that I believe would have happened while you were still overseas where basically they're coming home from a party and take is in a car with his friends and they get into an argument with another car and I don't believe people really know like what the argument was about or anything but one of the guys with TK ends up pulling out a gun shooting at the car and killing like a young white girl like a teenage girl and uh I saw like you know the news report of her parents talking about it and everything like that but apparently TK was so young that his name didn't even make it into the police report and he was basically like didn't have to deal with any consequences from from this or whatever but you could imagine that that was probably a pretty traumatic event and something that would have probably like really normalized murder in his mind to have been so close to a situation like this and then not have to really deal with any repercussions right I heard about that and um like I said it was Trula through the news through my family in situations like that but we didn't know who was involved and how how he was involved and how much or how deep so when you start reading the tabloids and you know that is your nephew but we are so far in a situation where you know he's with his his dad now but he was in a foster care but hey I thought you guys were you know what I'm saying looking after him what's going on so and then on the search to try to find my sister like hey are you okay what's going on what how was your Mentor you hear this what's going on so it was it was a lot going on around that situation so you know um but you know you you hear the stories you hear the ugliness and you know it's sad that people don't they don't take time to open up that that package to see like really things that you hear and then you DM the kid's mom like she had she didn't have anything to do with that but you you can feel how painful it could be to open up something that you know what I'm saying like we're not expecting everybody to be nice but damn like you know be respectful right and understand the story it's crazy how much I expect that at this point that like I didn't even need you to tell me that people were harassing his mom I just assume because people do things that are 1% as Extreme as what happened with AK and the family gets harassed the mom gets harassed it's just like such a consistent thing online these days which I really wish was not the case because almost always the the people getting harassed are basically innocent I think right right definitely yeah and you know it's sad because I have to pick up the pieces and and deal with that because my main thing was making sure I Usher her back to health right her mental health was damaged before these kids got here now that the kids are here and she's having to go through this it's been a a tragic seven to eight years from the moment they picked him up to till now she didn't want to do anything because it's like y'all blaming her for something that you think that we had control over but we were a product of our environment but we're not looking to say poor me but at least understand like right like you know what I'm saying our mother left us you think she know how to raise kids she love them to death but you think anybody but nobody gave us instructions on how but you think that that she knew how and after everything she was dealing with and going with who knows what she been through out there my sister living under bridges in boxes my mama lived on skro so it's a heavy cycle of what we saw so that's what I saw I saw my mama on SK roll I saw my mama selling drugs I saw my mama in late night parties she you know what I'm saying back in the day she had me dressed up like I Was Easy E so I was I was that's what she was Raising that too and if my father didn't step in then I would have I would have probably been the first take care right because that's what I saw what what was his living situation at the time that he ended up catching this case that ended up in a murder charge like who was he staying with in Texas at that time I believe he was staying with um his um manager at that time okay who Ezra Ezra but he's not his manager now um and uh he was uh living from house to house with friends and pimpy and um um it's another friend that he was with that's from Texas right um forgot his name but yeah he was back and forth between them homes because he had run away too you know what I'm saying Kayla tried to provide a better situation because she was a big sister but he was out there already yeah and it's crazy cuz when you read read about the details of how that uh robbery turned murder happened it's it's just like it it sounds so childish when you're reading about it because they show up at the house they think that it's just going to be one dude it's a bunch of dudes and they think that there's going to be a bunch of money or a bunch of [ __ ] that they would want to steal and it ends up being like almost nothing there so it's like when you're reading about it it really sounds like this is the kind of you know robbery that you know a 16 17year old kid would put together with and and just the fact that he had like two of his friends involved plus a bunch of girls it's like anybody who knows anything about committing crimes you're not supposed to just involve a shitload of different people that's the number one way you're going to get caught right but that ended up obviously being kind of the primary uh thing that sent his life into turmoil do you remember when you first heard about it because you probably heard about that before the song came out right I did I heard about that I was still in the Army and um I think I was I just got home home for work and I was look I think it flashed AC cuz I lived in Texas so it flashed across the screen and my heart dropped you know and I was like that's my nephew but I can't really like really like Keen in on that because it's like this is a real situation unfolding and I want to get to his mom to figure out what is happening and how can how can we assess so his first his first court date I was there so I don't know if you see this the the picture Circ circulating when it was a video he was in the jail cell and his sister and brother they was talking to him face to face that was me I was there um from the first court date until you know current situation because I wanted to put hands on because we couldn't find my sister so I wanted to be there I was there with Ezra so if you know Ezra he' tell you he Uncle tapped in uh with us but you know my nephew he was so of a leader so he had his team really really really tight still to this day so yeah me and his mom we still you know we um I make sure that you know he's safe and he's mental but his mom talks to him every day his sister talks to him every day but he has his team team really tight his manager and his whole uh productivity and everything he's got going on on anti anticipation of whatever is going to happen just as a sidebar it sounds like you have some complicated feelings about your time serving our country uh sometimes I do because I beat myself up for um juggling um serving my country or mentoring my my nephew right so I did a lot lot of good things for my country and I and I and I did a lot for myself and I'm proud of myself but sometimes I go back in a in a closed room and I deal with my anxiety on my PTSD from the Army and I and I think about my nephew and I'm like how cuz I'm a mentor now I'm a motivational speaker I speak to kids and one of the bigger reasons why is because I felt like I didn't give him that that attention he needed but but in a sense did the Army did that kind of save you from the streets save me yeah it took me away from um one war it took me to another but at the end of the day I I got you know I get benefits for this war I'm I'm retired for the rest of my life so I'm happy and I'm happy them conversations happened between uh my father and uh my uncles and everybody that was pushing me hey you know what don't stay here and gang bang Jr go to the Army and when I got out the Army I mean of course you saw me um a few times you know I I transitioned in from uh 2017 to a body and being all like a lot of aess celebrities bodyguards and protecting them because I like selfless service so I did that for a while especially for um for a lot of people you know do you feel like TK was the kind of kid who would have benefited from uh serving his country or do you feel like he was such a rebel spirit that he wouldn't have been able to fall in line like you have to to live that kind of life I think he he would have been a good soldier um because he like he likes the contact he likes the Tactical stuff he like he's very intelligent he's very smart he's very articulate um I don't know what people or what social media think of him but he's a smart kid if he was able to do that at 145 imagine now you know imagine so if you if you take that time capsule away and that never happened how far would he be right now in the music industry he came out with the Playboy cardies the XX extension he was the leader of that SoundCloud so imagine now what he would he'll be probably and and I mean this like I said there's no hit to anybody else but he'll probably be leading a young school like NBA young boy probably way above that situation Little Durk probably with young uh little baby all them he'll be up there with them you know what I'm saying because I saw his talent I hear his music I hear his unreleased I talk to him he reads he's he's he's he's getting into a mode of more maturity so it's like I just you know I pray for him every day and I pray for his mentor and I pray for my sister so you know one day they can reunite so then he's on the run for three months he makes his way to Jersey he's being relatively flagrant uh throughout that time kind of just going shopping and just ending up on people's social media and stuff and I guess the Marshals are like after him the whole time and then during this time period he ends up catching this other murder case which hasn't even gone to trial yet right yeah they go on to trial and so the crazy thing about that too is that the first murder case that he's already been given 55 years for he didn't pull the trigger in that situation right he just helped to plan the robbery he was just is there he was he was a minor there you know he was influenced heavy you know um we all know that he didn't pull that trigger so I think the guy who did got 20 years and then my nephew got 55 because I think it was the mockery of the judicial system you know the song he made and I remember uh what the judge told him when I was there when he first got here so it's like I knew why it why that judge you know he felt that way because you know Texas is hard on um on on their their criminals especially africanamerican so I believe if he that that stuff happened in California he would have been out already but in Texas is different that's what I was thinking watching this documentary about it because I'm like seeing people get 40 years 40 years just for being for being there and [ __ ] and especially like okay the guy who pulls the trigger gets 20 years he gets 50 years I'm not surprised that he got a harsh sentence as a result of the song and the fact that this was a whole social media spectacle but the fact that he got two and a half times as much as the guy who pulled the trigger is kind of shocking and nobody's spreading a light on that and that's what I've been saying from the beginning because um he was 14 15 going in right he went to prison right and and and this is by no means to to to for and this is for social media people that want to beat me up this is no means to go that way but you locked him up with grown men so now we challenging his mental health what happened to my nephew in there what did he go through what is his experiences we're not talking about that right so if you did that now you times that he been in there seven years right so it's like what are we doing are y'all sitting on it to a r what are we talking about because this is a human being in a situation where he was there right but if he didn't pull a tricker and y'all know that can we figure this other equation out and there was a girl who was there who got 10 years probation right she was there too and she I mean she might not have been as instrumental in planning it or some [ __ ] like that but she basically had like a similar role to what he did and she got really prob slap on the wrist in comparison to 50 years right so I mean we all know that's unfair and I think that right now even going into this year and next year you know he should already have time served it'll be eight nine years right all right he was he's about to be 23 years old you know in June he's a Gemini you know so um I don't know nearly as much as he does about his own case but on the on the outside looking in as his uncle that's not fair at all you know and um Charleston white me and him tapped in with each other but we were supposed to have a conversation he called me we talked but then you know the powers that be had that conversation that happened so it was like you know there's a there's a lot more intelligent black men out there that can actually articulate my nephew's story right so if I can be there as a power hitter in a positive manner to to just help him shine a little light on whatever is going on let us be there but what was Charleston's perspective on it and why didn't that conversation happen because I feel like his perspective is usually take all the gang bangers and lock them up well first he flamed my niece right oh see so he flamed her but then he came back and apologized he he they had an altercation you know and he did the same thing he did with everybody else you know you know [ __ ] the gang bangers this and this and that everybody should okay we got it we got your we got your uh you know your narrative but you told my niece that and then she don't understand what's going on with her situation right and then his mama hear it yeah you said sorry but we don't take sorry for to you know what I'm saying cuz we not from like we are from the streets so it's like what are you saying like if you got something to say say it to us say it to his mama don't say it to his sister and then when I heard he was changing his narrative to speak positivity and help my help my nephew okay that's what we but let's get together talk to his mama talk to me talk to talk to some adults that can talk to an adult and figure this thing out or what you embarrass of his mother his mother been through a lot you should want to talk to her now because of what she been through you should want to see the positive story now but I guarantee you if she was still in that [ __ ] you want to going to bring cameras in her face and and force her to talk about that but what about the positivity she's doing now she's in school she's working she's getting love back to life she's making money and she's waiting on the day that she get to even do what she has to do for her son so so she totally changed her life at some point what do you think what triggered that um just all she needed was love really yeah and we we used to beef a lot you know what I'm saying that's my older sister but you know um when when my mother died she did a lot of raising me and then as I got older I drift apart from that so you know we would argue every now and then every time I see her to take her something to go get her out of drug houses all these situations until God was like J go get your sister and when I brought her this time back like she's the best she ever been and she's at her highest power and I love it because she loves herself it took her loving herself first right and and that's the Nina you want to see the anxiety that she has that she's scared of the the comments uh backlash getting in front like yeah I want to do this for my son and I love him to death and I feel like I owe my kids the world but taking like me you you can take it you've been doing it for years I can take it because I don't care but this is a a woman that been through a lot and I'm not saying nobody else has but be cautious how you step on that cuz she still has wounds you know what I'm saying and I don't want her to run you know I'm I'm pretty sure you have people in your life that did drugs and when they did when they ran they ran I don't I don't want my sister to run and we know how fragile a person who's addicted to drugs is mental state can be especially during that time period that they're getting clean or that they're freshly clean the first couple years or whatever I mean it's I know tons of people who are are still in recovery and they've been off drugs for 10 years and it's still a daily practice to make sure that they don't give in but she she's doing really good for herself she she had to come she had to love herself first and she's very very stable now and I think if you give her um about um six months you you can bring her back and she'll be here to smile and answer any questions and clear up more than probably would that that I I probably didn't give you but she went through a lot ad him she went through a lot and like I said I don't want people to be like oh that no you know what I'm saying we everybody got a hard life but hear the story before you judge the person right and hear it from multiple angles and I'm just here to tell that side and what we did to prevent it and how we're doing now you know right you know definitely so there's that case that he's already been sentenced for and that's a case where it does feel like the the sense that he was given is just basically like a a a mockery of Justice because it's just such an extreme sentence for something where somebody on the same case got dramatically less time even though they pulled the trigger but then when you talk about the Chick-fil-A situation where basically for for people who don't know we're talking about TK and his friends while he was on the Run playing to rob a cameraman they they attempt to do so the cameraman essentially ends up jumping onto the hood of the car while TK and his friends are trying to make a getaway and then TK allegedly like pulls out a gun and shoots the guy and kills him while he's on the hood of the car at a Chick-fil-A and this was all captured on video by surveillance cameras and stuff like that and that's the case that's about to go on trial in the relatively near future what are your thoughts on that situation because it feels like even if he had got a more lenient sense for the first murder that the second one would probably be pretty pretty bad for him regardless yeah definitely you know cuz you know the eyes are everywhere so you know if there there's a footage in a situation that that has happened and and um you know um I guess coming from his uncle standpoint you know looking at that you know I was in awe you know but at the end of the day you know these kids in that time frame that was coming through that SoundCloud we all know what they were doing right they were all on on on some type of drug so we don't know if he was you know what I'm saying on high or in in a in a different state of mind for all them to go through that and play out that situation like that that was crazy I saw it um and at the end of the day you know it's just it's sad but we don't know what's going on in his head and and what was going on in that situation you know no definitely no that that that's a crazy one and I don't know I I respect appreciate and I thank you I want to come back and tell you it was emotional I talk okay thank you for the platform for giving my nephew opportunity to communicate the human and the individual involved but I just want to take consideration this I I I appreciate the way you talking to him about it but someone was hurt and this young man made a mistake is he's a child it happens but what I want y to understand this if if if if if he he don't have to tell his sister story it's his story see the injury but what I I I understand everything has a reason and and and everybody has a right to feel everybody from both ways but the life that's lost doesn't add to more life to lose what people have to understand is the situation and circumstances and his story of the condition that they were raised in let you understand their choice and decisions they make they don't have it you know what I mean but the man the boy has talent the but you understand what I'm saying I know the mother like the way was brought to this world and the rules it was [ __ ] up man we loved her we you know what I mean we care for we did the city Long Beach 20s insan but like but but you we was a family like all the gangs Al no everybody don't [ __ ] get along bro but this environment for a child like ain't no [ __ ] Chuck-E-Cheese bro the [ __ ] swings and The Spider and the jumble JY that [ __ ] don't mean [ __ ] they that it's it's not a jumper out there feel me like it's not and these children are so victimized by growing up under a circumstance where they don't know cuz what you think is right is is is wrong do you understand what I mean everything that you're taught ABC is is is right but it's wrong because those things got you [ __ ] up every day and you have a daddy to go or somebody to go get to fight those demons or those things outside the courage of being a man and and and it should be somebody there judging us on that factor because if somebody tries to harm you I don't I don't have a problem with you defending yourself from what but the circumstances go the other way you should take that too you understand if I'm willing to shoot at you right and you shoot me first my family should understand and see if that hey I started this [ __ ] you got me but what I'm saying is we all got the right to believe in this loss feel me but the thing about it is how much more loss do we have to subject oursel to before we change our environment our environment this is what exists this societal Gap and it's [ __ ] up because yes you godamn right these is crack babies it's not their [ __ ] fault it's the people before them that had them and they were born off crack all these [ __ ] issues they're not [ __ ] ghosts it's not Casper man this kids are [ __ ] up kid people are [ __ ] up and they're just afraid bro the question is is like what does the legal system do nothing they they have with a young teenage kid who's you know been involved in multiple murders and from their perspective it's like locking him up for 40 years as much as we can say that's egregious that's over the top it's like from their perspective they're protecting the public right and from their perspective there needs to be punishment for this sort of thing to let other people know that if you kill somebody that you're going to get locked up for it right look but there is also called help them you give them 40 50 years but as you go Ed or or but now you take that time let did you help them and what are we doing to eradicate that situation while you incarcerate them yeah educate them and give them their capabilities that they need because do you you must understand that those choices are only a comprehension and an acceptance from a people that was purged from the understanding and the need if my growing desire feel me is to have these things and acquire these things but there's no one there to teach me the words or the know how to teach my hands the teaching of my hands is going to become a burden and so a child every man should step but when you step up to your personal gu and accept what you did wrong then you can be right everybody know they wrong and they [ __ ] right but everybody's a human but guess who's never coming back so are they victims forever yes so everybody if there's a understand if there's a [ __ ] up little middle part about just this that affects us as being the human and the Mankind we are is it's not white black blue it's us we're generations of acceptance cuz we're still here but yet the only difference is judgment and that's what's [ __ ] up that child yes he has talent yes he yes he does but does the talent supersede the actions or does the birthing mechanism get blamed why I'm not going to blame the water if he drunk the water and he [ __ ] up why you think we was on him cuz we CH him because you're going to be better he got the same [ __ ] DNA feel me you don't know what your parents did none of us know what the hell we did that night when our mom and dad met and how they bent over and made us but it's us and we must try to find a way to find to be kind as men we're not kind as men anymore none of us the gang gang [ __ ] too far the cryp the blood [ __ ] man you are my blood [ __ ] cousin there's too much [ __ ] here that's allowed to go too [ __ ] far because all the real G [ __ ] ain't standing and saying hey I taught those children that [ __ ] television the first drive by ever saw you did it that's how you know how to do it so to have the courage to go out there and save their life instead of encourage what life don't come back y'all gang banging and [ __ ] for what you ain't going to stay man you got to stand here and understand when you fight for your culture and your race and your self but why are we not fighting for societal Harmony how is not a war out this [ __ ] to prevent hunger and and the need for this [ __ ] to to to sit up here and victimize everybody that little dude's a victim the guy that got hurt was a victim but his momb is a victim but when do we sympathize with what's allotted to victimize to change it society's the [ __ ] blame you're the product of your [ __ ] society and Society push you they say you better you're not better than what the [ __ ] you are I am the better what's perfect look in the mirror you are but this is wrong for people to not have compassion and understand how do we got have compassion for us as a human race as a kind of our motivation should be different this is [ __ ] up because so many kids have died because another kid tried to prove to somebody else something that he didn't know what the [ __ ] it meant there's too much depth and Mis it's too you know I mean and it's it hurt me because so many people when I go to the grave sites you know many people die for no reason brother and I died for no many too many many times for no reason so before I lock you up I you a thousand years let me make sure I can lock you up next to a cure for you so when you do get out this [ __ ] you can be the better you I mean we we just [ __ ] up [ __ ] up you mean thank you though but get get his ass [ __ ] that man we good I like give his ass tell me the [ __ ] Tru [ __ ] this bull we good I love you [ __ ] what what condition did you grow up in you not us you say it pretty normal conditions no him oh him no because take yes how the [ __ ] can I tell you about somebody else when I tell about me no that's your condition tell me yours what happened because godamn it you had kids from it and they're hurting people and people need to understand that that's what this [ __ ] did they were what moral person would do that to a child that would do it to another child because that's what made it okay and that's the condition and now he in a [ __ ] environment and they said oh he can swim no he can't he's drowning that's that that boy his mother she did with her mistakes her mom's mistakes and her you hear me that's what he understanding that's [ __ ] up and that little dude was and the way they said oh my God you got talent you should see the tears of my [ __ ] eye when that [ __ ] came you hear me and I said damn it's the only time to hear him now he been tried but but I'm mistake man God damn should have cost him his life not even you yeah I'm mistake but you I should I should be allotted every man no matter what tragedy the better and if I'm guilty take the Judgment thank you but that you understand me man went wrong wrong but you can't bring back the [ __ ] gone man thank you uh I love him passionate he's very passionate um I heard them speeches many times growing up he was a OG 20 [ __ ] um very a huge Staple in the community um back and forth to prison um always had something intellectual to to give me and and show me why not to continue down his path and I I would not be right to come tell a little bit about my nephew and my sister what if I don't introduce Long Beach in a different perspective right and I like to tell that type of story because that's why what's what hunts me at night is the mentorship that I didn't give Tamar right you know what I'm saying because it's like all this game I have and all these kids that look up to me now I could have gave that energy to my to my nephew but was it destined and I think that's what he was trying to say that you know me and my sister came from the same product she went one way and I went the other way you know yeah cuz like he had a he had a tweet at one point where he just said I just need one shot at adulthood and that was like a really sad statement because it made you really kind of think about the fact that he never got that never got it and his whole life like the trajectory of his life from here on out has been decided by decisions that he made when he was a little kid right and you know what's crazy was I think you had a guest on the other day um he was from Compton and um he had a similar story that he um he got into a shootout in Compton and um somebody lost their life he was like 16 or 17 and he just got out guno oh yeah and I and I and quickly I don't know him but quickly I gravitated to my nephew right like something happened when he was in 14 15 and him getting out in his 30s how would he be so you imagine that every day and if I'm doing that how is his mother dealing with that situation right because you know I can say she's good on the surface but she can go her own room and think about things that she did not do yeah and I mean it's it's crazy to even just see him in the videos when he's 15 and then you see him in court in recent memory it it looks like you know a child rapping in these videos holding guns and yelling into the camera and then it looks like a full- grown man sitting in court and he's being held accountable for things that he literally did right seven eight years ago right which is you know it's I'm not exactly sure what Society should do with a you know a 15 or 16 year old kid who who commits murders and everything but you know it's just a it's an awful situation to have to try to make sense of and I don't know right it's it's been awful too so it's like he's a product of his environment he saw a lot of that stuff his mother his dad um his his surroundings and everything like that so um all we can do is sit back and even from my perspective is just pray and just you know just hope that things is going to turn out because not only do I want to see him home I want to make sure that he's home for the right reasons right he can come home but not come home and that's what we talk about the military a lot of guys come home but they don't come home because mentally his mind can stay in there we don't know what take we going to get out when he get out right we don't know what's going to transpire we don't know I know he's reading he reads me and him talked about books I know he's writing he has over hundreds of songs I know he's creative he's very creative he has a lot going on he draws but we don't know what mind capacity when he gets out or if he gets out is he the same one from one y'all saw 10 years ago or is he a different one A one that's trying to tell a positive message we don't know cuz we've seen dudes who get locked up for 10 years and they come out and they're changed men right they got the kofy they're moved on they become completely different people and then a lot of times it just pushes you deeper and deeper into the gang [ __ ] CU you're going to war in there you're having to fight every day to defend yourself and you're probably seeing other people get brutally wounded or killed in front of you and you've got the cosos treating you like a piece of garbage for your entire life and I mean if he came out and he wasn't you know very well adapted you wouldn't really be able to blame him for that either given the situation that exactly been put into right exactly cuz we had tons of family members to get out and they was never the same never either they got smarter or they just remain the same person like right so you could somebody can go into jail in the 90s and probably early 2000s and get out now and they still they still thinking about the '90s right and they mind frame is still '90s Tupac 96 97 98 99 all them eras right there cuz they left it behind you know so it's like playing catchup and I kind of correlate that sometimes with the military when they send us away we lose so much time my deployments was a year long so I was gone 55 months but not consecutively so every time I came back I had to introduce myself to my family my kids my situation even the man I am you know so I know that's difficult even for incar incarcerated guys and it's got to be weird for you too because it's like nobody understands what you were doing out there and nobody really like could understand besides other people who have been through the exact same thing and I feel like that's got to make you feel kind of isolated and lonely right it does because you know um people don't talk about mental health in the military and um when I started to address it and talk about it especially for African-American males we don't tell each other that we hurt it's like you got to be tough so when I was going through my my my my issues in the military with PTSD and TBI you know um the first thing about it was to address that you needed help first like I need help something is wrong I am coming back to the States and I'm not the same and I remember when I was um I came back my third deployment from Afghanistan and my my boy Ken shout out to Ken Hunter um his family is really rep both in the um in the uh fruit town pyes so that I grew up with them too he he saw me at the gas station on L Beach Boulevard in artisia and I had just came back and I had I had $100,000 pors I had just bought it I'm at the a gas station like midnight and I have all the doors open and I'm just sitting there chilling and he said you know he pulled up he said you know somebody can try to come up and Rob you and my mind frame coming from deployments and already being in war was I didn't give a [ __ ] so I was waiting for the next idiot to come up so and and I can legally blast you you know what I'm saying I got my license so it's like all right come on come on come if if you dumb come tonight and that was my mentality and I was taking that back into my era of growing up in Long Beach too so it was like it really taught me how to to hone in to who I am as a person like hey you got to calm that [ __ ] down if something's wrong with you go get help all right just cuz you could beat the murder in court doesn't mean that you should necessarily be putting yourself in situations where you're kind of like inviting like a mouse trap yeah yeah and if a guy drives up and pulls a gun out on you it's like this this could go either way either way yeah you know there's no telling that you're going to be able to get your [ __ ] out and handle it on time it's just like as you get older and older you know when when I have conversations with people on here and they're telling me about you know shootouts they got into while they were hanging outside the liquor store and when I think about when I was younger you know obviously I wasn't on any kind of like gangster [ __ ] or whatever but yeah I would hang out at the [ __ ] liquor store all night I didn't give a [ __ ] right and then you get older and you just sort of like as you be get a a less and less of a tolerance for risk you just start to feel like well why would I put myself into that situation why don't I stay in the crib why don't I stay away from this element in general right and it's you know when you're young that doesn't necessarily make so much sense to you right you just want to get out there and do some Tarzan [ __ ] but yeah but like it was it was it was strictly mental though you know even though me being the the the best trained in my psychological profile and in my situational awareness I felt like I always had the better hand in a situation out there like that so I was putting myself like you said in situations to cuz I knew I was the better person and that was something mental tricking off that I'm not supposed to do that I could just be chilling at home why why I'm out here doing this know so I when I when my friend quickly noticed that he was like something's wrong you got to go get help and then I quickly started to try to go get help and um you know they put me in impatient for a while because I had to figure out who I who I was again really yeah it was bad yeah so I I did uh three combat tours Iraq got a bronzear in combat and I did a lot of crazy [ __ ] out there in missou and turit Baghdad fuia all that [ __ ] so but like especially being that it sounds like you were kind of like energized by 9/11 yeah but in retrospect a lot of people look at the the overall tone of what was going on in America at that time and I mean the numbers were staggering at that time if you asked people like who supported uh the invasion of Afghanistan and everything it was like 90% of Americans agreed on it which if you were to ask 10 20 years later it would probably be almost the other way like you know where probably 80% of people would think it was you know a war that was started on false pretense like and I've heard like a lot of interviews with soldiers who come back and and they feel very conflicted about it because and it's not like this is a new thing with 9/11 because you know it was the same [ __ ] with Vietnam and there's there very few Wars where all the soldiers end up feeling like they were you know Vindicated with what they were doing obviously something like World War II is an exception but even then I mean you you go you killed 20 Nazis I mean it's not like your brain is just like oh there Nazis so it's all good your brain is still dealing with that [ __ ] trauma yeah you're still human you know yeah yeah pulling that trigger is different but so how do you do you ever feel that way you feel sort of like resentful of the government or the the military that put you in that place I do have mixed feelings about me but um I know the Army saved my life but I I do um going through certain situations feel um biased to a lot but if you asks me now right now is like I'm here and I'm here for a reason and I and obviously God had a plan for me me to make it out that situation way before the military going in the military making it out of three Iraq tours and being here now front of you the biggest podcast in the world and you saw me as a bodyguard so it's like it's and I kept quiet for a while because I always wanted to I selfless serve I I help you what you need you got this I do this for you whatever because that's what I'm used to doing in the military you know definitely so what what what change are you hoping to make by like publicly having this ation about T and what his childhood was like and and what his current situation is like like how like how do you think that things could improve for him or are you more just trying to like kind of raise awareness well both we we doing both um we rais an awareness for the the the youth right so that's why I brought my uncle but not only he's a OG in Long Beach to see where I got it from it's not like just me talking crazy or going against the grain which I love to do but I leared this I saw the this the I saw the intelligence of cripping growing up and that's what I saw like if you going to do something you better know why you doing it right so and I also want to show the kids that it's important to have mentors and accept the mentorship right there's a there's a bridge between old and new right now and you hear you hear some of the young guys is oh that's an old guy or you would say you hear some of the old guys oh that's no we got to be able to disseminate that information and my failures of not doing that for my nephew you is the reason why I'm on your platform to show the world that he had a healthy mom but his mom went through a lot of stuff he had a healthy father his father went through a lot of stuff he was mentally damaged before all that he was already had he had a losing battle before he started doing anything so to to explain that story and also be a educated black man because sometimes when we get our our platforms and we talk on it you know people glorify the [ __ ] what about the positivity I wouldn't be in front of you if I didn't feel your energy every time I met you you a good dude you got your you got a lot of stuff going on I don't want your clout but also I want to be able to say you know what I am intelligent I am from the hood I came from that atmosphere this is what I could provide for the people who look like me and want to follow my story and understand that I didn't think it was a way out of Long Beach until I went to the Army but that wasn't my story no yeah I think it's it's valuable and important for us to have conversations like this just because it is so easy for people at home to just put T in the Monster Box and then not provide any further thought about that and it's like clearly it it's super cliche but hurt people hurt people right and when you look at TK it's just like [ __ ] this is a kid who came from an environment that really didn't you know guide him in the right direction ultimately with how it worked out and and he ended up lashing out in a pretty terrible way it's just it's not as simple as just writing somebody off and saying that they were a monster definitely and and that's why I wanted to come on and and I appreciate you allowing me to come on this platform and tell that because a lot of people do look at my nephew in my family as monsters Who rais monsters but if you really look at it we were raised by monsters but look at us now you know what I'm saying like it's okay to be a monster when you're little because you got to protect yourself but now as you get older you have to mature and and figure out who you want to Lash at and my sister didn't have no choice and I will be her voice until she continues to grow back into health because she had like my my son I mean her son was the top rapper in the world and she was living underneath a bridge really she was under a bridge when the race was blown up and everything she wasn't yes she she been out there so people got to understand like when you see that and you see motion yeah my nephew got motion but nobody can find my sister right so where's his mom where's his Dad what's going on you know because if you take away the the the the the cases that happened he would have went straight to the top how would I would you know what I'm saying yeah I mean a ton of people like me when we first heard the race were like holy [ __ ] like who is this kid this kid sounds incredible like the song is Amazing then you find out like oh there's this whole backstory and this is why he's not going to be able to you know he's probably about to be locked up for quite some time and yeah it's just a shame that he didn't get that chance earlier although honestly I look at a lot of people too like a shyy who he got signed he had hit songs he made it he couldn't forget the person that he was fast enough in order to avoid getting locked up you know when you look at the couple of different situations that he got himself into I really believe that if he had been you know let's say he got probation for those cases that he probably would have within a few months or a year he probably would have like started Living different enough that he didn't end up getting locked up and it's just a shame that with TK we're never going to well might never get to see what that's like but right guess we can't can't give up hope either no we can't give up and that's why we do what we do too because it's the kids that want to be signed to sports uh uh college and NBA NFL and kids that want to be rappers we need to have a medium in between so we can help them with their mental capacity of yeah we got there but how do you stay there right so cuz you get a lot of artists that are hot and they get there and they crash out because there's no m ship there's party party party there's hey go do this this and this but hey let me sit you down and ask you are you okay and that's what rightand of God my company does for management is take these kids and Mentor them to a spot to where a lot of these kids never had dads never even had a figure of a male that you can look up to right or even a positive male my figures of look of males looking up when I was growing up in Los Angeles Long Beach was tuy Williams you know what I'm saying was was was Cody uh uh was Monster Cody was my uncle beefy Lo was uh uh reesei cup from 20s was the gther from uh from from insan was the Fullers so those were my people that I looked up Peter McIntyre from 20s my Uncle Pete McIntyre he's a world champion my Uncle Ricky Harris who's a comedian so I had all these positive men in my life that I can pick and choose my grandfather Richard Harris who who ran from City Council in Long Beach so we we was very deeply embedded in Long Beach so I I looked at this especially my father so I think a lot of kids that are doing this need to find or create mentorship situations where they can be guided in financial spiritual energy and how to act character because you know how many people that get to where they going and they throw their deal away because of one false move look at my nephew what if he had me in his ear to say hey don't do that right so you Adam 22 but I got to go to sleep at at night thinking about that because and I see the aside of the situation my neph you I can see that he's he's a he's a he's a top rapper in the world but then I come to reality that he's stuck in there right 100% well I really appreciate your time yeah and uh it was great just getting more backstory because he's one of the more pivotal figures of that era of rap and everything and obviously his name still Rings Bells still gets discussed all the time right uh so yeah I mean free take I guess like we we we got to just stay on top of it I guess cuz I mean there's been a lot of people throughout my time doing this where I see him get 20 years they end up doing five shout out 03 greo and you know it's like you just can't give up hope you got to like make sure that you you stay in touch with these people and and put money on their books and try to just keep the word alive I guess our hope is that he gets out and you know hopefully his first interview will be with you that' be good you know I tell his mom and his sister and know he listes a lot to his sister shout out to Kayla shout out to Cameron uh shout out to Long Beach for real cuz this is U why we do what we do and appreciate you Adam thank you you didn't have to I'm not a rapper I'm not nobody in your atmosphere that you probably would keen on but thank you for giving a positive message and I am the hood motivator and I want to be able to do that I would love to come back again as security or whatever you need me to do this is what I do man and I and I love it I appreciate you for sure yeah I mean uh my man vad always told me that maybe I won't be able to get the Superstar rapper but if I can get the people around him they might have even more of a real perspective on the person than the Superstar rapper might be willing to give hopefully I shed that light for you hopefully hopefully you're not disappointed in that interview I I appreciate it no it's fascinating stuff man I appreciate you so much thank you so much and shout out to uh beefy L hold hold on you want to uh tap in with my sister she want to tell she love Yeah know I got you real quick yeah let me FaceTime her real quick so she could tell you she loves you she was like I love Adam can you hold it up to the mic a little bit yeah or you want me to take it okay I gotta Addam real quick okay okay he waiting for you she working you can see it6 can see real life real life [ __ ] right real life [ __ ] she working she in school she grinding hey hi how you doing all righty you excellent so shame you couldn't be here today but I understand we had a great conversation with your brother thank you yeah um I'm not going to dox uh where you're working right now but uh oh okay I just don't want to I don't want anybody to bother you at work or anything like that right but um okay if is what would you say is the number one thing that people uh need to know about your son that they don't necessarily understand said again I'm sorry what's the number one thing about your son that people don't understand um where he came from who his parents were and that um like he was just a child he didn't like you know he was doing what he was doing to survive 100% yeah I feel like did what he had to do he did what he had to do to survive right I mean your brother uh definitely filled us in a lot on the details of what his his upbringing must have been like and everything M so I guess hopefully people understand at least a little bit better right uh where would you just where would you say you're at mentally in terms of like dealing with your own mental health and where your son is at in life right now um I'm better but I'm still messed up about it um that's my baby you know um I feel like I'm supposed to be able to you know those like you supposed to be able to save your baby and I can't you know I I gotta just let give it to put it in God's hand and let God deal with it no that's real [ __ ] okay well I mean I would love to have you on the podcast sometime if you're ever feeling up to it but in general I mean I'm just glad that uh your brother kind of filled Us in and let us hear more of the story thank you yeah uh have a nice day huh I was just saying have a nice day what were you saying no I said just let me know I guess like if you won't ridicule me I come on there I'm not no no no I mean I'm sure you're GNA see this interview and you'll you'll probably feel like it's a accommodating environment okay okay sure take what you give mama okay I appreciate you okay thank you much love she was definitely taking chances right there because I'm sure she didn't want her boss to see her to see her yeah definitely but I mean that's a real life scenario and I appreciate you and you know she she speak highly she just don't like you said criticism and what's happening and and and if we push her too much she'll go off the edge and that's the last thing I want to do you know what I'm saying definitely and um I think we had a positive conversation like I said I appreciate you you know and thank you for bringing them all bringing me on and you know shout out to Snoopy badass too for real that's like that's that's that's a family member in my in my situation too man and then you know what I'm saying he got something big coming so that's what you're telling me yeah I got nothing but left for Snoop yeah I know you do yeah I love you I got a little uh a relationship and I love it that you you make sure that he has a voice you know I was his bodyguard back in the day now I'm the president of of his label oh so you're with killer Inc yeah I'm the president of his label yeah yeah because um I know I got a master's degree in business so I know a lot about business nice yeah so appreciate your time and also uh beefy Lo appreciate you as well man Beach for real man it was honor and a pleasure to this I've seen you before but honestly I just I just want to this to be communicated like today what he what he was doing what he's really at at tonight is trying to really just humanize an individual but like I said the circumstances of people and you know his his I know I know the mother and her struggle and and I was there for and you know nobody should ever have to survive like this or be a victim of their own societies like this we're victimized by the way that we're treated by society and nobody blames that our our our element is the blame for 90% of our wrongs and you know like I said you know you know Snoop lost family members dad's lost family members we lost family members I just lost my mom so and that's why I'm you know like that's why I pushed him to be because her story is his story but his choices was his and the problems that we have in our society is we determine that everybody listen man that gang [ __ ] is the death of our cultural beings we got to look at this gang [ __ ] and now for real that we're the only victims of it so you can't blame the KKK you can't blame any other odds against us but us so as a a people we got to stop harming ourselves over colors and words and streets and things we don't own we need to strive ownership and collectivity and responsibility for morals because this [ __ ] is getting too far where we're we're you know we dominated by it don't matter if you're a crack baby you don't have to act like it is so we we we must choose betterment in self and that's why I love him because that's what he chose he long beat but it doesn't M you know everybody is but you don't have to be from a gang to be brave and I want to tell any child or anybody listening to right now that that's what this means you don't have to you can read a book and be brave the bravest thing is to have knowledge the only accomplishment a human being can really have is knowledge you're not acquiring anything with a gun but violence and perpetuating violence and hurting things everybody teach your children respect cuz they don't know it we don't know it I don't know respect I'm 51 homie nothing fed me so this I know the wounds and the choices and I'm right and wrong but I'm [ __ ] still right though because I survived it's that bad of a jungle in this [ __ ] up little world over a dollar you know what I mean and so it's beautiful thank you for and and I'm saying don't give no [ __ ] break bro you [ __ ] no break if somebody you make them tell and share because it can save life her story real but be gentle because but the truth is we're raised [ __ ] up and we're choosing [ __ ] up things and but we're human and in the better places you don't got to be a thug to be something just be brave and be it let me give a shout out to Long Beach real quick I just got a text let me shout out Snoop Dash DW flame tryd goie Savvi stap uh Vince Staples OT Genesis the whole L be scene Northeast West South man I appreciate you that's go l i mean that's uh beefy Lo man I appreciate you thank you Adam thank you thank youu I need you to hear this he he was part of the DPG I needed you to hear this shout out Cherry Park shout out hton Park King Park told that's a skate park too those are the two skate par so you either on the east side or you there a good definitely they keep the lights on at night I know a lot of people got their bikes sing over years there but don't be scared you'll be all right shout out to myom J too my family JD yeah all you old ass rappers don't be afraid to go out there and check the young they need us too but everybody can say things but listen man we in a game of words don't let words hurt you you know the other day I was telling a Chicago rapper that I think a difference between Chicago and La is that in La at least sometimes there will be a situation between two young Gang Related people and the ogs will be able to step in and make it stop yeah and they they laughed in my face they said Chicago that'll never happen but ultimately I think they they know that that is an important thing like it would be it would be a good development for Chicago if they had a little bit more of that kind of thing it's basically it's the environment breeds itself and the circumstances and the response of people are because of their environment and so you have to understand that life is the most precious gift but the choices in it is bigger than what we doing and so it doesn't matter the comparisons only bring insult and bring harm but the understanding of it and the respect of it because if we love ourselves the way that we Loy to this [ __ ] as a people we'll survive longer [ __ ] is taking too many pats on the back like I no you're killing yourself because when the when when the aliens or whatever [ __ ] come and turn on us we're not going to know how to defend ourself as a human mankind because we're too busy sharing hate with each other every level of the world economically has hate and selfishness in it and that's not survival the only thing that can survive in any element in any life form any time is love and compassion those the only things that can coexist anywhere and change and balance that thing and so when you got a lot of people are choosing to be [ __ ] up them it's not nobody's fault you're [ __ ] up but it's your fault when you're [ __ ] up and don't try to get help to change it now when you in a circumstance in a situation [ __ ] happens but when you're [ __ ] up and nobody helps you change something traumatic happens to make you change I should be man enough to accept your change and not judge you on yesterday but it's too much judgment and not enough compassion cuz if we were taught and bred compassion we would neighbor it we would feed it we would water it but we're victimizing ourselves because of our choices and that's why I want better men to take the stance don't be like that be better definitely [ __ ] that [ __ ] D just stupid [ __ ] that don't want to understand it definitely you're afraid to knowledge knowledge is not a forest it's a [ __ ] ride go join it shout out to nutcase too that's my cousin coming home insane too well appreciate you guys no jumper coolest podcast of the world check us out on YouTube Tik Tok patreon Instagram like comment and subscribe nojumper.com if you want to support

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Length: 84min 45sec (5085 seconds)

Published: Fri Apr 12 2024