Cartel Bo on "Hoova" Video Getting Him 4 Years in Prison, Maxo Kream, Texas Politics & More

no jumper coolest podcast in the world and today NFL cartel bow is in the building godamn right how you feeling on this uh Beautiful Friday man I'm I'm loving this I'm loving the CID weather you know what I'm saying you know I just did five so five in the Fed so this H it's lovely to me you know what I'm saying I'm loving it I'm digging it baby I ain't lying to you anything's better than the the prison life yeah godamn right all all lock down all that Bo and you know what I'm saying but yeah it's lovely definitely so we'll get into like uh everything that led up to the the prison sentence and everything like that but let's talk a little bit about uh your early days and where you're coming from uh yeah I'm from L this big ass dog sorry about that got mind of his own but hey no I'm from so I'm from Lakewood you know what I'm saying outside Houston Texas you feel me uh killer lake murder Wood Way side Woody you feel me then block blue St baby so that's why I'm from I'm from the north and Sh you know what I'm saying what was life like coming up boy it was wild yeah you know what I'm saying murwood it is what it is you know saying I a speak for itself you feel me it ain't nothing you know you grew up in it you know what I'm saying a't sworn in I was born in you know what I'm saying I ain't knew who I'm grew here so it's just you know you're accustomed to your living you're accustom to where you at what were your parents like oh [ __ ] you know my dad was really dope do mama was really you know what I'm saying pretty much the same but she was trying to make it but you know hard when he had you know what I'm saying so it wasn't that many that many options so you know when you know you come from where I come from trying you know be [ __ ] up like that so you know what I'm saying you just try to make it to help them put put them in a better situation but you know they doing a lot better now than they was then it was real [ __ ] up when I was younger you know what I'm saying one you know have too many do too many options so you know it was It was kind of crazy you feel me I'm a granny baby though my my granny raised me you know what I'm saying my mom had me 16 but you know she I was born and brought to the heart of the hood you know what I'm saying in the blue store on willing and didn't so my grand hi right in front of the blue store so I'm accustomed to seeing certain you feel me that you know the average want like when I was seven years old I watch his brains BW out at the pay phone at the Blue Store saying yeah and you're a kid just standing there no I was like see Granny used to give me the goddamn notes and tell me go to the store and the man to give me a lot of ticket and some you know this that another you feel me you know I'm saying it was just one of them days you feel me it was just going on this back it was real you know what I'm saying it is what it is like you know I'm saying but that that's not that's just that's where we at that ain't the first and only thing like you know what I'm saying it just you learn you adapt quick right you feel me but when you look back on that you're like damn my childhood brain my seven-year-old brain like that's just not a normal thing for a little kid to see well like yeah it really was when you got to the point because it's like you you start you don't know that it ain't normal until you get to going somewhere else you feel me like so you don't know like you just accustomed to that you used to hearing gunshots and helicopters and train tra and all that type so you just like it's just annoying to you and you know like granny tried to keep away from it you know what I'm saying and but you know if that's all you're R that's all you see [ __ ] is like you know so and then mama had me at 16 you know what I'm saying Daddy was 18 he went to the military you know what I'm saying came back a little up and you know mama was trying to get it however she got it you feel what I'm saying so all I had was granted you know what I'm saying and your grandma was just raising you or the other kids that she was taking my mama sister kids too so it was me my cousin here my cousin April April just passed away we just went to a great barrier site so uh now it was up like you know what I'm saying I was the baby though after the three that Granny was Raising but everybody go to Granny High because Granny high right in front of the blue store you know what I'm saying so blue St Cornerstone on the hood and you just it was what it was feel what I'm saying and you were getting in trouble from a young age or I mean it bad but it was just it up you know what I'm saying it it was justed up it was a environment up Hood it was it was [ __ ] up man like you know but I ain't putting that on nobody putting nothing you know you just you don't get to decide where you born and grow up at you know what I'm saying but it's on where you go and what you doing when you get up out of there you feel me you determine your path you know what I'm saying sometime we be fed up and understanding and believing that be regular and take you to actually get to doing something like you know what I'm saying like I had got half my leg shot off with a 12 gug at what age you know what I'm saying I was what 16 17 16 yeah you know what I'm saying but and what were you up to at 16 you already running around on the streets all kinds of man like you know I'm saying it's like no good doing a had no business doing and what were you doing that somebody shot at you that you got your leg no business doing you doing robbery or something something had been doing you know what I'm saying that [ __ ] just it's nothing you know I had te myself out a walk again though that [ __ ] was H like I hated that cuz it was like a [ __ ] had to like it was at first it was like they was like you ain't going to walk again they like we might can walk again then they did the Ser they took the ordering out of here put my le saying so you know what I'm saying my like BW right cuz some people might not be able oh damn yeah like my blew off like so that's like the area that they hit you like it blew out off to the Bone oh wow you know what I'm saying close contact type how long could you uh not walk how long you in the hospital for a minute I was for a minute so I uh long story short though it was like I don't know I was always telling myself man got me I'm a walk it wasn't even about the what the doctors was talking about and all that [ __ ] cuz that [ __ ] was painful once start adapting to the pain I realized pain is really mental you know what I'm saying like it really ain't you know it's just a mental thing it's a trigger to let you know something wrong you feel me once once you get past that part you feel me you really good so I started like At first I used to try to stand up I had the little cane the little Crut and then like I black out fall out blacked out in the hospital my uh my a Judy and my cousin they were helping me you know what I'm saying and uh I blacked out the first time I Tred to stand up then I do it again I black out but then I sometimes I stand a few seconds longer you know what I'm saying they were saying it was because my blood flowing had been doing that I hadn't stood up in so long so then it got to when I start standing up damn now I got to stand up and and then go from the crutches to the Walker I mean from the Walker to the crutches like step by step but when I got to the highs you know what I'm saying I had to like crawl up the stairs and you feel me cuz my mom ended up getting the high about that age my mom end up getting a high you know what I'm saying she had get a nice house she had start doing it look better for herself but it was still around the corner from the hood it wasn't necessarily in the hood but it was right around the corner from the hood it's 5 minutes from granny house you know what I'm understand what I'm saying so it was like so [ __ ] I had to crawl upstairs I used to tread bag cuz I had all the blood and fluid and [ __ ] I to change all them goddamn reps you feel me climb up the goddamn thing and get in the shower and just lay in it B let the water rain on me you know saying to get in the shower cuz I I couldn't walk right to take care like you know what I'm saying but being outside like everybody want to be outside like this cool like a have no choice did you have Sports Dreams before that yeah I hooped I was sorry I'mma talk sh I'm saw hey I'm trash I mean I ain't going to lie dunk had a lot of little jump it was cool but but you got understand I went to school with [ __ ] who actually went to the league like I went to school with J C I don't know if you remember Jonathan Simmons he from Houston he uh he went he played for the Spurs he played with kaai and them he went to Orlando got a deal I played with my boy Big Al he played overseas with Germany he was going to play for the Rockers in Orlando it was just like I played with in high school with some dudes who end up really doing something with that ball so me compared to them hell no like I was trashing but I was cool to me you know what I'm saying cuz how tall are you 66 66 you look like you should be a linebacker man not get the off is that I mean you're probably a lot bigger now than when you were 16 right yeah I was skinny then like I was skinny like you know what I'm saying so yeah it different then man it was like kind of up it was real it it was kind of up but you know things happen you know what I'm understanding what I'm saying how do you get back to normal life after having your leg blown off like that sh you just you got to keep going you got to eat you need money you went back to school yeah I did I actually did go back to school cuz I I I I was determined to graduate you know what I'm saying like nobody in my family had was graduating so like you feel me like nobody as far as my grandy grandkids so I was like the first kid to graduate and that's all she asked me to do you know what I'm saying so the school when they heard what happened they was bringing me to the class work I was work doing some of that then some I had my sister help me with you feel me but at the end day like I ain't no dumb ass you know what I'm understanding what I'm saying like the problem is be feeling like [ __ ] be dumb ass because they from the hood but n you know how to think you know what I'm saying especially if you know you got any kind of hustle you got to know how to think you know what I'm saying it just be certain areas that you strong in certain areas in you weak in I mean you no dumb ass a nothing wrong with going to school get education so I was never no dumb ass like I was just [ __ ] I was just out like you feel me it was just like the circumstances and thing I got to a point I was like I'm going to graduate I'm going to try to go to school I'm going to do this but then my mom end up going to jail for a with a daily weapon you know what I'm saying so when she went to jail for a with a daily weapon then my daddy was still having this episode [ __ ] I had three little sisters that I had to worry about [ __ ] I got I like I got to get some more money like this school here like this cool but you know what I'm saying granny can't do anything by herself you feel me granny raised me granny was old enough to be my great Grandmama raising me you know what I'm saying so see my three little sister my sister need see Fe like we ain't got nobody a coming through blessing game and all that like this this all we got so like [ __ ] I'm I'm outs side you feel me it is what it is good for a couple years went did a little big kind home did good little bit I just like I'm see what the rap [ __ ] do you were outside just hustling and whatnot I mean I was outside I'm just leave it at that mhm you know what I'm saying I was outside there's a lot of gangs in your area when you were coming up M from murwood like you know there this big big yes I feel like a lot of the fans think gangs they think Chicago and la and they don't necessarily think about it in Texas man you got to understand like the gang [ __ ] different in Texas so like like it's more of clicks and Hood like a lot of War like it was Lake Wood City G Wars then you got a lot of Click Wars like it's South Southeast Southwest [ __ ] got a bunch of [ __ ] going on it's so many people dead behind this [ __ ] ain't going to never stop you know what I'm saying so yeah but it's like like [ __ ] be gang like Lakewood is a really a Hoover hood you know what I'm saying it really is you feel me so it's a but you still got a couple [ __ ] that grew up in like what people know their whole life they probably go get put down somewhere else they cousin over here this Treet toop or something or whatever they is wherever they at you know what I'm saying but for the main part [ __ ] Ain't riding and like I have seen [ __ ] get their [ __ ] pushed in on gang [ __ ] just because they was doing the wrong [ __ ] and wrong playing with the wrong people like my [ __ ] jakar my [ __ ] K son he doing a be right now you know what I'm saying blew a [ __ ] Bran's out cuz he was in there doing all that bu [ __ ] we about 17 and [ __ ] you know what I'm saying he just I ain't never that's the first time I ever seen a [ __ ] just say I did it yeah went and there took the be I was me up you know what I'm saying so even try to fight it nigg be fued up in the head like you you think it's something in the water you know what I'm saying like I say it's like you be a custom to [ __ ] like you know text is different like if you don't really know you don't know see Houston a beautiful city and they got beautiful Parts but they got up parts too you know what I'm saying like it's some real the parts in Houston like if you don't know you going to get everything you looking for you know what I'm saying like you come down there thinking you it happens all the time move down there or go down there thinking this this this and you find out this that m you know what I'm saying and you got part this beautiful it's a lovely place to stay if you ain't in the [ __ ] but if you looking for the [ __ ] you going to get everything you looking for right you know what I'm saying so like gang wise and gang [ __ ] like that like you got Gams but more or less be with families hoods and circles and [ __ ] like that you know what I'm saying [ __ ] yeah you have a blood and the [ __ ] kicking with each other like you know what I'm saying like you feel me I'm Groove but my little bro 60 you know what I'm saying fro so it's like you see what I'm saying like [ __ ] Ain't big big on I have seen [ __ ] going down but more or less it be like they killed our people we F to smack four of they people then they coming back to get theirs and then that's what they be on you know what I'm saying so it don't be more or less the set [ __ ] it be a more or less [ __ ] My People G do you even like there a lot of like pretty much all the gang names that you just named or gangs that originated in La I mean some do y'all even give a about that or is that just like ancient history to Y man my [ __ ] come from Houston you know what I'm saying I don't know nothing about you feel me what they got going on this that I know some things going on you know what I'm saying we be tapped in with things that's going on at the end of the day what we got going on is in Lakewood right so we ain't worried about what mother going on we got our own problems we got our own Ops and we got our own people that you know what I'm saying and it's like yeah a lot of [ __ ] migrated you feel me doing I'm going say like the late 80s early 90s a lot of moving down here moving down there you feel me forting and doing things so yeah like when I was coming up everybody was HGC every everybody you know what I'm saying that's all you really s you know what I'm saying so when you like you can't just get out and go in the store with no red shirt on and people going to beat the dog [ __ ] out you you know what I'm saying they going to go in your pockets breaking your car they man you going off like you know what I'm saying you got to know where you at same thing is if you on the other side you might go to brawood and yeah [ __ ] them real live Bounty Hunter they they going to give you everything you looking for you know what I'm saying or what like it be like that like you know what I'm saying like it's just you got to know where you at you feel me and for more or less it really be like be riding with their people more or less versus the gang [ __ ] more on that as youngest older nigg be about money [ __ ] trying to get some chabal you know what I'm talking about [ __ ] trying to help they goddamn kids help they goddamn Mom and Daddy get somewhere so [ __ ] people be having things going on but you know the city it get slimy it get a little greasy you know what I'm saying so you got people playing on people and this that and other you know just a bunch going on you know much going on you know what I'm saying I say all that [ __ ] out there for you but there also a lot of good [ __ ] going on Texas has a historic reputation for Innovative slang so you calling money chabata AKA bread yeah just like in case anybody missed that I'm going give that a 100 out of 100 slang wse that was fire yeah like trying to get some yeah [ __ ] need that Gua to definitely that's what they on okay so you graduate high school yeah and then you're what just like kind of in the street for a few years before you CCH I was trying to go to school like you feel me granny was talking to her like you got a chance to leave your life you got shy think about all the [ __ ] you went through remember you was homeless when you was 12 and I like 13 like I was you feel me she was just like go to school so I was trying to go to school but my mom went to end up kissing a case you know what I'm saying the first year when I was in in college she caught her EG Rob with a deily weapon you know what I'm saying and she got caught up with some [ __ ] on some [ __ ] or whatever however may that be I ain't talking about that but it put my granny in a stronghold where she had to take in my three younger sisters who was still in school not only that she had my other cousin April stay there who just passed away with her kids it was like my uncle spooky was there then he end up overdosing passed away like it was just [ __ ] going on and I'm I'm in school and everybody in need you see what I'm saying like you feel me like I'm in school but my sister need they need school clothes everything on granny though you feel me you ever tried getting a regular job and it just wasn't for you man come on man that [ __ ] slaver it don't work for you that [ __ ] slaver I mean I ain't going to lie try like ain't nothing wrong with no job you know what I'm saying better than being broke being broke is lame get your job doing something you say that Li [ __ ] do it like get you some Chata get you some coins man you need them Chuck and cheese tokens don't live around here broke them a't no mother way like hell no right so it's like uh like you got to do what you got to do to provide you know what I'm saying like you know what if ain't nothing shaking on your end everybody can't hustle some people just ain't got it in them some people just pause to go to work and it's just about what you do it ain't About It Ain't About to work it's about formula a plan what you working for right you know what I'm saying like some people just go to work every day they take the check and pay bills n you got to put a time frame on that [ __ ] I'mma do this for this long and then once I get here I need to be doing this I need to be here I need to have this much saved up I need to be working on this job I think a lot of people with regular jobs at times will think about entering into a criminal conspiracy but then their better instincts will just be like well even if I could make that amount of money it's got this amount of risk and I don't want to risk going toil that come from like they say mother go to work 8 hours a day 10 hours a day sometime over time 12 hours a day right they got damn slave and they doing what they got to do they w w w but they barely paying their bills rent do you know what I'm saying R man ain't trying to hear none of that you ain't got that Tata we going to holler you know what I'm saying what I'm saying like you got to put that together that water get cut off that's on you people don't give a about that [ __ ] people don't about what you got going on here you slave and they take care of they kids or they this and that everybody packed in the hi trying to make [ __ ] easy trying to have some and you know what I'm saying whatnot or whatever and here come this [ __ ] up the street that just made the money you made in a month and 20 and 24 48 Hours [ __ ] come on now a Temptation you feel me that's that's that's that's what you want you know you can do you like damn what am I slaving for if I can my family really need me that put you in a bond you know what I'm saying they put you in a real Bond [ __ ] don't be feeling like they had a real opportunities as everybody else you know everybody get a chance and a choice it's about how you take advantage of it you feel me definitely your choice is determine your destination so how did you end up catching that first case that you mentioned which one uh the first one like while you were uh while like after high school cuz I I don't just been too many or what cuz this is way before the music video thing right yeah I was young at like I I just I doing some [ __ ] I a have no business doing you know what I'm saying I [ __ ] I have no business on and you got locked up for how long [ __ ] they had gave me five I did two on the five I did three on parole came home you know what I'm saying start getting a little money and you know I was catching little other little cases in between that [ __ ] this that and the other but then that Hoover video we did the Hoover video see you got understand when that rap sheep came like I was having coins then I was having some real lot of money so it was just like I had to do something I knew that [ __ ] was going to last forever you feel me and everybody with like like bit you go hard on that mic like you what I'm saying like you got just like I ain't got no [ __ ] around me like there's no groupies or no Partners or no what these my brothers we all grw up in the same Circle together you know what I'm saying ain't no big eyes little you but you start around with rapping at what Edge I'm going say for real like 20 okay but I would never taken it serious like I wouldn't never taken it serious like [ __ ] might go to the studio we do a song when I when I bought my own studio equipment and [ __ ] and I was was in that [ __ ] and I was really like learning how to use Pro Tool taking the [ __ ] sh like I start finding myself in that feel me like I'm really like okay this is me this who I am this my voice this my sound I'm start finding myself getting comfortable knowing how I want to sound coming out the speakers like you got to really do that you know what I'm saying a lot of people just they they they hope it work and they don't know what they working for you know and I didn't know the the hood was going to gravitate towards me anyway because of who I am and you know what we grew up like I'm one it's us you feel me they don't look at me like I'm a rapper we it's one of us you feel me and everybody know it's authentic it's real so everybody just like damn oh yeah oh yeah oh yeah so the city instantly gravitate and once the city gravitate to you Ain a matter of time for surrounding towns and surround the cities gravitate to you then eventually you going to have a Stak and then eventually you going to have a next St and eventually and see that's how this [ __ ] Stu if you're if you're a rapper in Houston do you need like a street rapper do you need to be real in order to succeed yeah [ __ ] ain't really I mean in the game today everybody it's a lot of fuu ass [ __ ] out here so like I can't it ain't on me to speak on what the next man got going on you know if you take care of your family Fe your family doing you but you know [ __ ] ain't respecting that [ __ ] like you know what I'm saying like you got some rappers that has made it but [ __ ] ain't and they jamming people jam it all over the country but at home [ __ ] ain't listening to that [ __ ] like but I'm happy for them like in the city happy for them and they they made it but it's just different you feel me like you know this [ __ ] going through what I'm going through cuz they came from right here we ate the same summer sausage from the same store we had to pay the same water company we all pay the same light bill with center point we all got there you know what I'm saying that's different we had to stand on some of the same corners and go through the same [ __ ] we was all in the same projects hstar project we was doing the same [ __ ] we all had to run from the same laws you see what I'm saying [ __ ] had to run from the same jump out boys hitting the car like it different you know what I'm saying versus a [ __ ] who just you good You Got Talent yeah you go hard they jamm that [ __ ] nice but you know what I'm saying stay in that lane you know what I'm saying you know don't try to put on like you was over here going through all this [ __ ] we've been going through and you ain't went through none of this you know what I'm saying [ __ ] don't know about no bum money and no lawyers and them resets and going to court and [ __ ] that [ __ ] get real like you know what I'm saying you in that [ __ ] fighting them cases them people answer that phone you know what I'm saying them fun getting low yeah that [ __ ] get real you know what I'm saying [ __ ] a answering the phone and all yeah yeah they going to show you it's going to show you it's real so like [ __ ] don't really respect it but if you got a craft and you good they'll [ __ ] with you you see what I'm saying cuz [ __ ] ain't going to just Dy hate on you but when it comes to the kind of music that you make I feel like the people are with it enough that they're not going to listen to somebody who's totally fakeing what they're talking about right pretty much yeah pretty much but if you're like Travis Scott or you're make no stallion or whatever it's like ain't nobody give a [ __ ] make great music it is what it with you yeah you go hard in the [ __ ] stay with you they going to help push you they going to jam you they going to you see they going to be happy for you and all that you know what I'm saying but it's like they can never try to get in the lane of like the lane I'm in or like a Max in or like you know say what I'm saying because but they would never try because that's not them they being themselves and that's why they so successful because you have to be yourselves there's no point of trying to be fooful you know what's funny when you mentioned Texas rap to like more Normy ass people they always still go back to like the early 2000s the Paul walls Slim Thug Etc a switch of house ass era whereas when they were never trying to be gangsters they were shining looking good peace and chame elbows 8 and F Diamond grills pouring syrup sipping drink popping pill smoking like riding coming Downy all that they was never on no kill a [ __ ] bang bang they wasn't like you know what I'm saying they was shining looking good people love it they were they were like like that chopped and screwed era like stands out in people's minds so much whereas when I look at all the rappers who popped off out of Texas over the last however however many years most of them rap pretty [ __ ] fast yeah it it it it's true because people being themselves they not trying to be that you got understand it was a whole way went down with this [ __ ] like yeah y'all don't really understand the real history of that [ __ ] like them elbows and them Wheels y'all be seeing like it was an ERA bro like that one point time for a long time then with dead man Wheels like [ __ ] it's a lot of people souls in the P I'm saying 1984 1983 three kers there was a limited amount that was made you know what I'm saying so that's what come off the 1983 1984 CAC you know what I'm saying the El dog El Dorado barits and [ __ ] in the city that's what you riding on really pretty much if you was riding on anything but them Wheels you lame as hell like don't matter what you got you ain't on [ __ ] that's how [ __ ] looking at you and you got to be complete Candy Paint screens coming down pop trunk all that [ __ ] like that's how they coming and if you ain't coming like that you faking out here you know what I'm saying you really here faking because at the end it's a limited amount you can have 50 ,000 [ __ ] won't sell you no wheels cuz it's a limited amount so it got to a point where [ __ ] robbing and killing for them Wheels left and right mother blowing [ __ ] brains out at lights [ __ ] Rob and kill I know [ __ ] that killed his brother and doing Time by some Wheels like it got real you know what I'm saying it was real real it's real culture and that [ __ ] you know what I'm saying what I'm saying and [ __ ] from the north going to the southide robing them [ __ ] they a lot of them [ __ ] selling though Southside [ __ ] selling no killing [ __ ] that's coming and Rob him like for real like it was it's a lot of history it's more than just you feel me that's why the cult is so big and it's still strong like that you see what I'm saying and then you got screw was the voice for the South you know what I'm saying like a lot of people don't know that screw was a voice screw was just a regular [ __ ] that Screw tapes you know what I'm saying like he made his own little thing he made his own sound and people loved and gravitated to it you got your homeboys coming in there rapping going hard like your Kiki your Pokey all the fat pets oh my God like you got all them coming in freestyling this that up but they leave they go w w w but they end up freestyling by [ __ ] they going through every day too but you're you're a little younger but it sounds like you kind of really got the history lesson like people people care about the history of Texas of because we seeing we grow up in it you know what I'm saying like you growing up seeing that [ __ ] like you know what I'm saying like my my cousin coming home crying because her boyfriend got robbed at the life for his wheels they pissed the wh him shot him and [ __ ] you know what I'm saying like I don't got to be older to know what the [ __ ] going on you know what I'm saying like that's why they was they was laboring We Dead Man [ __ ] that was the name the mother dead man wheel bro CU [ __ ] do do anything about them Wheels you know what I'm saying like anything but it got to a point where Texans Wild Wheels start I guess they got the pattern for them and start making them then they start making them longer and people start liking them better and all them Wheels that people was killing for you can't even sell them [ __ ] for $500 [ __ ] don't you can't get them [ __ ] rims away don't nobody want that [ __ ] now but it's a long history about this [ __ ] so that's why people love that [ __ ] so when they had they block party they holding down they yeah they looking good you know what I'm saying everybody Pimp C UGK everybody yeah like it's a culture it's a real live culture behind that [ __ ] definitely know what I'm saying people don't be understanding that so NFL is a rap crew or is that some other [ __ ] like it's some other [ __ ] okay you know what I'm saying uh you know like I'm uh I'm NL cartel Bo but you know my [ __ ] being cartel Bo cuz like as far as Fe like I got this gang friendman [ __ ] so like I got this I can't have no part to do with no gang this game they they can violate a [ __ ] but you can still call your rap name NFL cartel Bo no I'm cartel Bo and that's just on the safety tip you know what I'm saying because I don't want no reason to be [ __ ] with you know what I'm saying they just took BG to jail for rapping right like what the [ __ ] though like you know what I'm saying they looking for a reason to [ __ ] with you they just want to know if you going to get it to them talk to the rappers all the time from Atlanta and [ __ ] who are terrified to claim any kind of [ __ ] public because they they on the gang friendsman real [ __ ] yelling gang gang gang in their courtroom saying name name name yeah you know what I'm saying now mind side but that don't mean the other [ __ ] solent with the other [ __ ] claiming and [ __ ] you know what I'm saying we stumped down like ain't nobody did nothing on my case you know I'm saying as far as I concern it was just [ __ ] up how they blew it up had me all on The Breakfast Club with Charlamagne all that goofy ass [ __ ] I mean I understand he a media guy I had to get to the part to where like man this man just doing his job man he the media guy yeah he going to put a little sauce on it to make it this that this but any at the end of the day MMA International head lines [ __ ] it and [ __ ] was on CNN dude so what what was your perspective on maxo as as someone who's rapping and he's he's representing the same thing as you it's like cuz we know they just they just like us they on the other side of town you know what I'm saying pretty much but you know like [ __ ] be so closed off and closed minded it was never going like it ain't like we was going to ever go over there or they was going to ever come over here because you know this us and that's them you know what I'm saying but it was all love you feel me once a [ __ ] did connect the do and put the pieces together you know what I'm saying so it's all about progression and seeing the next [ __ ] come up and getting a better situation feel me people want to hear us tell our stories and [ __ ] like that they want to hear about you know this that and other so like broen gave me a whole bunch of gang you feel me like I was doing it and he kind of grabbed the [ __ ] like yeah I see what you got going like but tweak it like this though you know what I'm saying put a little more professionalism in it put a little more business in it do a take a little this off you know what I'm saying you know you know I'm saying you know be more to you know what I'm saying environmental friendly be more like you know what I'm saying he would teach a [ __ ] some [ __ ] but what made you what made him want to [ __ ] with you because as a rapper was popping out of the city it's kind of like by shining a light on you that could also potentially take people away from his I was the hottest artist coming out of Houston uhuh so when he look at that and then I I just figur he like oh Groove and then his Partners tell him he this [ __ ] this [ __ ] got hard in a [ __ ] coming out the north know he from Southwest they for park for Park Square business you know what I'm saying they like the lake so it's like oh yeah this [ __ ] whole go you know he restart you know what I'm saying it was just all love from there you know what I'm saying and like what really gave him love like cuz you know [ __ ] ain't coming to the lake man [ __ ] is not coming to Lakewood like they might tell you they coming to Lakewood [ __ ] when we did that whole video and cuz pulled up like the hood had a whole another level of respect for him you see what I'm saying you said he pulled up solo right yeah so everybody was like [ __ ] up like oh yeah we [ __ ] with this [ __ ] like you know what I'm saying cuz we know and everybody know [ __ ] don't come over here m you feel me then it's like when I came to for Park I came to for Park but I ain't come solo you know what I'm saying I ain't going to no what solo but he came solo it was like okay yeah like it was all love you feel me and it was real because you guys even naming the song Hoover it's kind of was was it like a moment of a little bit of unity that didn't exist previously in terms of the city or at least mutual respect Houston different you know what I'm saying it was basically like C pulled up on me he had been doing a lot of shows and a lot of this and that like I was saying I was hot like with the different platforms the say cheeses and this and W I mean I'm everybody posting that they I'm hot you know what I'm saying but I'm coming so he like man yeah I got to get one with you so he pulled up th like and put some on I played some [ __ ] but I like this what you want I know what he want cuz he grew you feel me so like I know what you want and I played that [ __ ] he like load that [ __ ] up and I recorded him you know what I'm saying cuz I know how to do my own you feel me you're engineer yeah I know how to do all that [ __ ] so it was just like it was all authentic and all real like it just happened you know what I'm saying like you know when real recognize real [ __ ] what you going to get you going to get real you know what I'm saying you put that [ __ ] together that's just how that [ __ ] went so from your perspective that music video was pretty much just a regular ass music video that you just filmed in the neighborhood nothing special nothing crazy no not to us because you got to it's got I'm saying it's [ __ ] in that video that's dead M you know what I'm saying from my My Baby Lulu to uh D to it's a lot of [ __ ] in that video did H 6 seven years old now at this point so yeah I had did the F it's about six years old now so it's like I got some people going on that video homie you know what I'm saying and like you know [ __ ] ain't give a [ __ ] about you being this and what y'all done laid down and who y'all is like they know you out here and they got a chance to get you they going to get you they going to spin on you that's what they going to do so you can't get caught you know what I'm saying lacking and and you you you tripping I ain't tripping I'm tripping you tripping you know what I'm saying I'mma show you like you can't get caught you know what I'm saying it wouldn't like a [ __ ] just like I ain't bring one gun to the video not one and I ain't ask nobody to you know what I'm saying but it's like [ __ ] can't you got to know you not F to come around here like it ain't it ain't good you know what I'm saying you saying that the video put a additional Spotlight on people no that's not it did but it didn't I'm saying it did because in a wrong way definitely for the cops yeah you know what I'm saying like it was supposed to go like that you feel me it wasn't supposed to go like that and like they had been W us off the street they had told they were [ __ ] with [ __ ] tell we don't know what y'all doing how y'all doing but when we find out we taking all y'all down type ass [ __ ] pull you over beat you up you know what I'm saying it's 100 De summertime they handcuffed me throw me in the back seat turnning heat up all the way up sweat me out drive me out try to uh uh what's that [ __ ] called I couldn't breathe and [ __ ] it's the middle of the summertime uh uh police did that to me you feel me like [ __ ] with you yeah we going to get y'all and then that video gave him the reason to come on down and get a [ __ ] that's pretty much what that was and they said a bunch of [ __ ] that wasn't true like Bas even uh my my friend Kareem who's in town from Texas as soon as I mentioned that video he was like oh yeah the one that they filmed in the school district and [ __ ] yeah like that was a lot I'm like I think Mar that that school was destroyed by Hurricane Harvey oh wow right hurricane Harvey had destroyed that school I know and it was empty it was abandoned was nobody there and people who came to with the little kids who some of the kids what they wanted to meet me it was people kids who was at the video that wanted to meet me type [ __ ] it wasn't no pork over and the video was done on the Saturday you know what I'm saying so it wasn't like they lied and said people was picking their kids up from school and seen the whole bunch come on man come on man right come like realistically in the middle school come on man like well come on man we be for real and then the video was shot on a Saturday and the school was abandoned so they were going to try to hang us for that [ __ ] like they was on it took [ __ ] because we from here so we got our kids or people got kids who was going to this school who got to go to another school cuz the school destroyed who got brought paperwork you know what I'm saying and showing like man that school destroyed they line man that these is this this kid is this my kid is my they all wanted to meet both they lying the police lying and it took a federal judge to be like okay no y'all lying y'all targeting these people y'all targeted [ __ ] this [ __ ] shouldn't be even be in federal court it's supposed to be a state court y'all just W but they they they in here now so we going to do it but that that's some [ __ ] you know what I'm saying y'all trying to get these people going for the rest of their life now and we just had a blessed judge the judge we had a good judge man like yeah Nancy atas like she was a real good judge man she seen it for what it was like it was an opportunity for them to get publicity yeah type [ __ ] and they ran that [ __ ] I mean you seen how it did yeah you know what I'm saying imagine that like a story like that come on man like you know I got kids man I got little girl like come on I ain't you know what I'm saying while school going on people picking up their kids from school and see a whole bunch of [ __ ] gang banging with guns right there come on man like praying on people's worst assumptions about MERS and [ __ ] exactly so that's what they did but that's how dirty the police are like they they not right you know what I'm saying they and that's like everywhere from hbd LAPD NYPD Chicago P come on man like the whole world seen that [ __ ] from George Floyd and all the other cases that follow you know what I'm saying behind that with all the people that got killed and they Ste coming up and laughing they walked in people houses and killed them on the couch in they own damn Apartments they getting 10 years and [ __ ] like come on man but these people ain't nothing ain't nothing good or right about these people like you know what I'm saying and they're doing it cuz they know they can do it and get away with it in your mind are the cops racist or do they just hate you know poor people gangster people Etc it's a majority of them are you got to understand it's U but majority of them are but it's just the fact that they feel like they are the law they don't feel like they they uh what's the word protect and serve the Law whatever the [ __ ] they you know what the [ __ ] I'm talking about come onam word going they they feel like they are the law like they not supposed to enforce the law they are the law they Above the Law they don't feel like they enforc the law they not here to protect the they can do whatever they want to do they don't feel like they a part of that they like they not a part of that's why they call themselves The Force you know what I'm saying they're a force you feel me they not the people they a force and that's they they train them to think like that they show them to think like that they mold them and create them like you know what I'm saying and then they do it for so long they end up getting [ __ ] up and caught up mentally bro you feel that's why a lot of them need like therapy and [ __ ] you don't be know what the [ __ ] be seeing every day [ __ ] you know what I'm saying [ __ ] be dealing with this this this this and they already putting [ __ ] up ways of thinking in they man they ain't got no kind of real training like they just out there and they doing all this ho ass [ __ ] up [ __ ] to us but you know what I'm saying that's why [ __ ] is always [ __ ] 12 right you know what I'm saying because [ __ ] it's always going to be [ __ ] us and we just the people people don't think you think they look at look at me and see see the people now they see gang banging niggaer who needs to die and be in jail they don't see a person when they look at me they don't give a [ __ ] about me they want me dead or in jail off the streets they don't care about my daughters with the consequence for them they don't care about how my mom and my dad or my grandma going to feel about that [ __ ] they just want me dead or in jail get him off the streets he's just another gangbanging [ __ ] that's how they going to look at it some racist intent some just perspective of how they looking at me have you situations where cops where they said explicitly racist [ __ ] like hell yeah beat the goddamn [ __ ] out of me I feel like it's probably a little different in California but down there I got my ass whooped why I say it ain't all racist cuz I got my ass whooped by black and white laws some of the black laws worse than the white ones really yeah so you know what I'm saying e it a that's why I say you can say that yeah it is something but it just be their mentality you know what I'm saying like they be [ __ ] up so like you know what I'm saying that's why it's always [ __ ] 12 What charges did they hit you with and did they they hit the whole neighborhood was like it was like 22 so they originally told 22 [ __ ] and if you was there you touched the gun you did anything W and you was a felon they booked your ass but in the state they charged us separately right so they wanted to get us booked statewise and [ __ ] was going to court Texas is a Second Amendment state so they ain't big on gun cases it's not like California New York you get caught with a gun T you can get 15 days of probation 30 days in jail type [ __ ] cuz around here people will talk about Texas or Florida and be like oh they can do whatever with with guns it actually is had problem wrting P bab NFL baby T had five gun cases at one time I'm out on bun you know what I'm saying [ __ ] get caught with two or one gun out here you ain't going to see him for a while you know what I'm saying or New York you know damn well you ain't going to see him forse yeah that's what I'm saying so it's a Second Amendment state so the laws are different they M but the problem with that is they didn't did all this extra [ __ ] trying to make this thing bigger than what it is so when they get these 22 and it was 23 people and then it goes down to 15 cuz [ __ ] and got their case just missing me mind you [ __ ] got other cases they got going on [ __ ] fighting robers [ __ ] fighting this [ __ ] fighting that and they get the thowing you know what I'm saying now they well you know they gonna come at you they GNA come at you right look man uh we'll throw that out if you take six months on this case and we you know what I'm saying you know how it go they we if you just you know what I'm saying [ __ ] in they case throughout when it come to last 11 people picked up that phone hey man guys getting away you know what I'm saying hey man uh yeah we need y'all to step in all you got to do is have a case that's in the state that could go fed and the F and just picked it up and that's exactly what they did and they didn't realize how [ __ ] it was to the motion of Discovery and all the [ __ ] came out well it was like they trying to paint a pencil on the [ __ ] were you the number one dude they were going after though yeah pretty much you're kind of the face of it Max get get charges as well n n really they ain't [ __ ] with CU cuz ain't touch nothing cuz he didn't have any guns on him in the video he no he didn't touch nothing I shouldn't have touched nothing you know I'm saying at the end of the day I can't blame nobody but me I'm a grown ass man you know what I'm saying I did what I did I touch what I touch that's on me you know what I'm saying you probably had a bunch of other videos throughout your life that had guns in them and it was never a thing right I don't want to talk about that but uh it was just like it was [ __ ] up I knew I was being targeted and it was nothing I can do about it you know what I'm saying because I look at it too like you see all the [ __ ] Trump supporters and rallies and [ __ ] the [ __ ] got a million guns ain't no ATF watching them [ __ ] take [ __ ] to jail they ain't taking none of them people to jail they marching with candles talking about the Jews when I replace us and all kind of [ __ ] you ain't see you ain't see no [ __ ] going to jail and you ain't going to see it we did a video they did a video What's the difference you know exactly what the difference is you know what I'm saying so it's selective uh prosecution we going to get who we want to get you know what I'm saying when you when you to be aware is to be alive you know what I'm saying so that's why I say when you were saying race to say that stupid because it's black people involved in that [ __ ] too that's comeing black police coming to get your ass too whoop your [ __ ] ass people ain't going give a damn about that [ __ ] you know what I'm saying is they mentals be [ __ ] up man black cop might go harder cuz he's trying to they go harder yeah they go harder I don't had white cops that let me go in the black CL like what the [ __ ] are you doing you know what I'm saying like it just that why I say I but like a lot of times it be but then a lot of times they don't mhm you know what I'm saying you said that the cops had already been watching you before the Hoover video as well right I mean I would presume cuz I had you know but at that time I was cleaning my life up you got to understand when I start doing music I was on a different path you feel what I'm saying I'm on some man I'm going to do this the right way and this that you know what I'm saying I'm F to get my people out of here I'm going to show them a different way type [ __ ] so that's why a lot of [ __ ] in the hood love and respect the [ __ ] out of the [ __ ] too cuz I'm one of them and I'm trying to show them a better way look [ __ ] you going to sell these shirts [ __ ] that's what you going to do y'all going to get that together clean that money up look [ __ ] y'all going to be secur but y'all to you going to go running and this that nothing do and all that hey look y'all going to be Transportation y' going to make sure we moving the unit right you know what I'm saying you showing [ __ ] who been in the streets on [ __ ] they whole life how to move and really get some chabala oh that's a problem you know what I'm saying what I'm saying that's a problem y'all something to be recking with you feel what I'm saying so when you showing them how to move legit hey we ain't just going to do this we going to go get llc's and we F to do business the right way you know what I'm saying we really making noise and the city really love us you know what I'm saying it's hard to get Houston big but it's hard to get them [ __ ] but when you got them you got the whole state of Texas you pretty much got the whole South when you get Houston What charges did you end up actually uh they had gave a 922g filling in possession of fire on and a uh 924 a a conspiracy to get a fing a weapon like it's different kind of Reco so they got Reco that go up to five years and they got Reco to go up from 20 to life and the SM they just did anything to make us codefendant so it was we wer codefendant in in the state like I told you ear so when the [ __ ] came to the F [ __ ] they made us Cod defense by hitting us with the Rico together you know what I'm saying and but a lot of them Rico got through out and just got the gun cases because the judge seen the truth for what it was you know what I'm saying so just you know but at the end of the day you can say they put a Target on your back but we we put a Target on our back too so you ended up taking how many years they a take [ __ ] they gave me six and a half okay I a take so you took it to try n i Ain take [ __ ] to try oh everybody man you you going play with the feds going to you get 10 Years [ __ ] you going to get the max right you go you Ain playing with them people you know what I'm saying so [ __ ] it was just they gave me six and a half you know what I'm saying she gave me the most time she feel like I'm the reason behind it all you know what I'm saying she was like this is really a [ __ ] case but you got to get the most time cuz you the rapper this your video wow see I can't do nothing but respect that know what I'm saying like I'd rather nobody go to jail than I just do the time if if it was up to me anybody else on the case get significant amounts of time like that or no really n my [ __ ] key Jo got five but uh everybody else on there got like two years two years one year because like I'm telling you the judge seen what they were trying to do like you know what saying it at the end of the day that came down to who courtroom we was in mhm you know what I'm understand what I'm saying and we was in a good honorable courtroom with a good person that seen the truth for what it was and was just was not F to let that happen to us right you know what I'm saying so it just that's how that played out so you ended up doing how long you say four uh I did four and a half I got in that [ __ ] I was on [ __ ] the first two years but I got the uh when I I I started at pen I started BL bloody B Bowman pin then I got down to the medium you know that [ __ ] was lock I see some [ __ ] up [ __ ] I seen [ __ ] stabbed in the face the neck blood cing I se My the [ __ ] in uh the SE next door to me get stabed in the face about the phone that fed pin [ __ ] Some Mo that [ __ ] some boy that [ __ ] some [ __ ] that USB yeah they on some [ __ ] I see a [ __ ] Kill by a stick of deodorant see a [ __ ] uh kill the S by The Breakfast Bag [ __ ] slam the S head in the door cuz he felt disrespected how do you kill someone with a stick of deodorant no about a stick of deodorant oh about it okay yeah so like what happened was my silly head went up there talk to ins say he with the Sano like the Sano really run like the whole all the they really over all the michigans as far as like I guess under the Mason Dixon line or whatever I don't know how they sh go I don't know SOS like all the other missing game pretty much run up on them so well whatever what not that's NE neither here nor there right my S went up there to talk to one of they people about some business he was trying to do and one of his homeboys had just walked out and was like he like man hold on what my deod that [ __ ] was just right there my sh like he a know what the [ __ ] going on so Scarface came down like both and the other sa had said hey man you talking about he cuz he made an announcement over the tier it was like man you talking about this thck of deodorant he like yeah such and such just can got some dope from him he got that sticky out over turned that [ __ ] upside down it was a green degree with a white cap he had his initials carved in that [ __ ] like who gave you that all right [ __ ] came out high for that Deuce watching TV like ain't nothing happen [ __ ] came Hit that [ __ ] like H they lock they lock on their lung Loop bam dropped them it say come behind them stay that [ __ ] like 16 20 times to my tan his ass up you just standing there watching like what the [ __ ] everybody in the goddamn tank just stand there watch it's quiet and the [ __ ] it get quiet it's going to go on whenever you can't hear nothing it's going to go on like you know what I'm saying so bam he he hitting them get up the two Co just sitting in the office they don't hear nothing so bam [ __ ] just walking by hitting the [ __ ] in the head [ __ ] ass [ __ ] walking by hit him in the head [ __ ] ass [ __ ] like the [ __ ] that was watching TV sitting in the chair he just scooted it over that's the law like you know what I'm saying you know See No Evil Hear no evil speak no evil man but I guess probably five to 10 minutes later the C came out the office do a round see that [ __ ] leaking on that [ __ ] like everybody rack it up all [ __ ] and threw that [ __ ] body in the lunder bin put it on the elevator took it downstairs we was down about I'm say we buying about four three four months about that [ __ ] but they didn't lay you out your your sales for three or four months you said hell no really you know what I'm saying it wasn't just that though because every time they give us a chance to come out something else going to happen like that [ __ ] stay up like they be stay on [ __ ] and and so is that just like the rule that this dude is like damn near dead bleeding out on the ground and nobody's allowed to alert the no like sometimes you'll go out cuz they so used to happen you'll come back out in 3 days but it was like when [ __ ] keep keep keep happening okay they F to lock this [ __ ] down for a minute now they tired of it you know what I'm saying then them [ __ ] in there whooping the laws and hitting the laws in the face with lot like they man B my [ __ ] up B my P was [ __ ] up wow you know what I'm saying so [ __ ] like that why I say I was seeing some [ __ ] in that [ __ ] but then like when I got to the medium it would player [ __ ] was phones and doing this doing that I'm like okay my this my kind of vibe you know what I'm saying like you know this gang [ __ ] out that [ __ ] weak you know what I'm saying like this my kind of vibe we really thugging out like really doing you you can do this kind of time make you some money do you some this and that so [ __ ] I got to doing the programs and [ __ ] that past the little law call First up at and [ __ ] I end up working a year off my sentence you know what I'm saying like doing programs and [ __ ] like that like going in the drug classes going to uh Behavior thinking classes and [ __ ] what else I'm doing I'm sitting this [ __ ] you know what I'm saying man it was like I think I forgot what they was taking off like you get 10 days every 30 days that you program or some [ __ ] like that and [ __ ] so [ __ ] I'm in that doing it but then at first I thought it wasn't going to kick in and one day they called me in that [ __ ] like they took y off your sentence and [ __ ] cuz I was going to have to do like on six and a half cuz I was in that whole [ __ ] up too I had like fighting shots and I getting phone shots and [ __ ] like that so I was [ __ ] my time up too but see I ain't kill no more I ain't kill no more and then it cuz I'm I'm in my mind I'm in this [ __ ] for a music video M like I'm sick in this [ __ ] like I'm mad in the [ __ ] like I'm my life is getting wasted away for a music video a rap video you know I'm saying all the [ __ ] I need and all this what I'm here for you're there for the thing that you were doing that you thought was you getting your life going in the right direction exactly so that's the part that was killing me and [ __ ] with my mind you know what I'm saying what I'm saying so yeah man it it it just it was a lot bro it was a lot I ain't going to lie was a lot you know what I'm saying but I got pass that [ __ ] start start making excuses for myself and start doing [ __ ] you know what I'm saying and start thinking a bit picture I'm might Kyle get on the phone with maxo you know what I'm saying get on the phone with uh Li bro my man some might get on the phone with my video man you know what I'm saying like [ __ ] you know when you get out of this up I be I'll be like man that [ __ ] over with you know what I'm saying you thought that the music was done yeah I was like man that [ __ ] over with man I been gone too long now so are you surprised getting out after four or 5 years and having the people really react like the way they have been I ain't going to lie yeah it was shocking it was real shocking you know what I'm saying it was shocking but it was certain things that would happen that are bring me back to life like it was certain things like I open a magazine and one day I open the Rolling Stone I'm going through that [ __ ] I see Maxx on in that ho I'm like look at this ho this my baby look at my baby in this [ __ ] shine I'm happy you know I go through one of them kite magazines I see sauce in that [ __ ] I see little Jer in that [ __ ] I like man look at like you know what I'm saying cuz I'm like he got I watched him grow and flourish you feel me I'm happy for him because that's the life I was shooting for and that's the life I had always wanted got hurt a little bit knowing that you could have been in those positions as well right it hurt but it also encouraged me it's only going to really hurt a hater at some point you can use that to push you up you know what I'm saying because if I'm sitting here hurt because you have you successful doing what you supposed to do and I'm I can't be in here s it ain't your fault I'm here [ __ ] up you know what I'm saying that's that's what that's what's wrong with [ __ ] they hating on the next [ __ ] Max almost really [ __ ] with you too he hit me like I would have done this interview either way but he hit me up like making sure like yo like this dude he got a crazy story like you should definitely do this interview yeah that's my baby you know what I'm saying rock form you know what I'm saying FPC the Lakewood HDC but it it's just it's just like he did my B with me you know what I'm saying he ain't never like just reject no [ __ ] calls or nothing like that he would put money on the [ __ ] books and you know what I'm saying like he rocked with me you feel me like a lot of [ __ ] fall off in that time people don't understand how that [ __ ] go I let just like ain't nothing cool about that that first year everybody with you oh yeah it's cool like everybody [ __ ] that second year some [ __ ] with you they going to still answer that third year is going to get shaky yeah yeah she ain't going to be answering that phone like that yeah like it's it's going to get real I've been that guy I've been the guy that fourth year that fourth year oh you ain't get that answer you you count on one hand how many [ __ ] going to answer that phone be that fifth you you dead you might well over with you dead like you know what I'm saying you Ain exist no more you just got to get out I feel bad about saying it but I've definitely been the guy who was writing and calling during like year one or year two and then kind of like forgot about it about year four year five yeah that [ __ ] you so you know yeah you know what I'm saying you know how that [ __ ] go like you feel me I just that [ __ ] just encouraged me you know what I'm saying but when I came home it was like everybody was like what are you going to do cuz I didn't get to fully see the how it was flourishing you know what I'm saying like when the [ __ ] went viral I was on running from the feds M and video was going viral I'm on the run you know what I'm saying how long you on the run for 6 months I ran from them people 6 months you stay in Texas or you I was ripping and running you know what I'm saying I was in transit you know what I'm saying I just I was scared I ain't going to lie like you should have seen Adam one them people got me that they came bro them people came bro them people really came like they cut off the floor OFA Turnpike they had helicopters put the spikes on the road they had like regular trucks you know what I'm saying they had like cones and do [ __ ] lit up like with police lights all on the inside like they did um I just both throw the keys out the car I'm like damn he okay yeah this [ __ ] real all right Mama uh it was fun yeah this [ __ ] going to get real though like that how this [ __ ] was cuz like I remember when the video came out and then I remember hearing about there being arrest made in relationship to it and stuff but then there there was a YouTube video I think by trap geek that that was called Hoover the the music video that took down a neighborhood and I feel like that video got like 7 million views and like really increased the lore around this where probably a ton of people who didn't even know about you or maxo saw this and we like holy [ __ ] these dudes are crazy yeah pretty much that's pretty much it gave it a reboost it's like saam man did it CNN genius all them people blowing it up in the news [ __ ] all over did it and then it it was like right when it was going away here come trap gate and it like damn like you know what I'm saying but it was like I guess I don't want to was a good thing but I guess more or less it uh it played out how it played out you feel me right bro you know all we can do now is make up for the L times and capitalize you know did you mature or did you have any like important realizations while you were locked up got no choice but to mature in the pin you mature your ass going to die right you going out with that goofy ass young dumb [ __ ] if you want to them nigg going kill your ass M you know what I'm saying yeah everybody it's it's somebody for everybody that's what I learn I learned that and you know what I'm saying we all the biggest baddest this and we all going to do this and we all going to do that yeah everybody going to do that yeah they going to do it too right you know what I'm saying see it's difference when you going in that [ __ ] with 6 and a half years he got life he got life he got life he got life he got life he got life he got life he got life he got life he got life he got three years and then he got life he got two lives he got 100 years he got 40 he got 12 12 years and then he got life he got that's how that pen [ __ ] is you know you know what I'm saying that [ __ ] [ __ ] up so they yeah they don't they don't like you anyway they ain't going nowh anyway no life ain't like the state in the state of Texas life for 25 years you do 25 make R in the FED they life I mean for the rest of your as as long as the day you breathe till you stop breathing your Pap say deceased on that [ __ ] they don't want you to go they trying they want you to die you dying in that [ __ ] so yeah man like you know how you going to win you comeing that [ __ ] with 6 and A2 years yeah play if you want to so how long were you out before you like started putting music out again cu the son's first day after the Fed was that after the first day pretty much cuz I was at the halfway house for a couple months so like I take my hours with my passes I go record and do things trying to prepare myself like you know what I'm saying cuz I wouldn't write music in jail so like I freestyle I freestyle all my songs so like I just was I was just putting it together like okay this how I'mma do it I was critiquing it and I'm like I can't drop the video because then they going to be on my ass like why how you doing this and you know what I'm saying so I just had to slow roll it I had to I had to take it piece by piece and I just kind of planned it and it was just me and Li bro me and L bro the car we was just like [ __ ] it's going to go trust me it's going to go it's going to go and sure enough BLB can't flew down you know he he did all young videos all Uzi videos and that man answer the phone for me you know what I'm saying when I was in that [ __ ] the car was answer that phone for me when I was in that [ __ ] like you feel me and Sh it's like we put a play together and that [ __ ] went you know what I'm saying it's was like people miss me you know what I'm saying you go from being nobody in jail to barely having people to call you know what I'm saying and then you get out in the whole real of you feel like it feel kind of fake I'm going just say they embracing my story I feel I ain't going to say it's fake I feel like it's motivation you know what I'm saying they look at a [ __ ] like me like man that [ __ ] went through all this [ __ ] he still out here doing it ain't no excuses you feel me like everybody got a reason why they ain't got [ __ ] or excuse why they ain't doing something ain't no excuse that man just did f for and a half years and just at the bottom of the Earth the scum of the earth you know what I'm saying and came back and and getting everything back he lost times 10 so like what's your excuse yeah like [ __ ] in the feds going to C get I accept calls all day from the feds people call me from 202 numbers all day they love me down there you know what I'm saying they going crazy about me down there cuz it show them that they can do it too you feel what I'm saying like yeah it's possible it's real does it put the pressure on you though that like the music needs to be as good as possible in order to keep those fans on board no that mean I need to stay on their ass stay on their ass [ __ ] like you know what you just came through [ __ ] you know what I'm saying cuz if I if I was back in that sale they you know what I'm saying what's up cuz you good like [ __ ] get come on let's go same thing come wake a [ __ ] up B come on we going to do a th000 p up today Come on B we F to do uh uh 206 5050 or we going to do 506 20 we go getting up [ __ ] come on who cooking today I'm cooking you cooking come on broy what's up what's up you P how your kids doing how you they don't give you uh like real weights huh so you got to just do body weight [ __ ] n not until I got to one spot I had blue yard they goddamn uh Bowmont medium I blew that [ __ ] [ __ ] playing me by some coins so they [ __ ] my ass across the country about that [ __ ] and uh I got there they had weights and [ __ ] locking they own do it was like Christmas that last year oh my God they go to com week ain't never no lock down that [ __ ] was like I guess it was like a melting calm down point on the way out the door you know what I'm saying and that was just I stumbled on that on the blessing cuz I really like got there on the whim like [ __ ] was playing with me by some money B Mon and like I had went to drive to do the all app [ __ ] cuz they talk about you get a year off you then I ain't qualifi for the year off so they was like you going get a year halfway house and then they was like they ain't giving nobody year halfway house so I I ain't want to do it no way and [ __ ] because I changed Unis and went over there was trying to do that [ __ ] to go home really [ __ ] felt like they can play with a [ __ ] and you know what I'm saying I went over there ate his lunch and they shook my ass across the country about that [ __ ] they were mad and [ __ ] about that [ __ ] cuz it caused the race ride yeah I was reading the the race ride thing so that that caused a race rap yeah pretty much how bad did it get it got it got bad anybody n ain't nobody di now one but I know the only reason ain't nobody died cuz that was at the medium you know what I'm saying that was at the medium that was the pin [ __ ] would have been dead for sure really you know what I'm saying but yeah that was at the medium so it was like but I was mad by my money like [ __ ] feel like they can play with me but they [ __ ] me but it end up helping me because the spot I went to had all these programs available all this [ __ ] you can do like it was like sweet that b was sweet you know what I'm saying and then it was like more of the Midwest games [ __ ] up there the the Coalition I'm finding out about games I had never heard of and [ __ ] like that like you know it's different it's not like down south they got Vice Lords Crips I mean not a too many Crips the vice laws GDs BD it's all like Chicago type you know what I'm saying them black souls and there all these different games that you know I'm like damn what's that what's that okay like they got their whole own culture up here that [ __ ] never know about it it's big like it's big big but you'll never know about it unless you shoot that way so it was like just a different crowd but it was pretty much the same but it was not the same right you know what I'm saying so I go up there and then I see all the opportunity [ __ ] I took advantage you know what I'm saying I took advantage like [ __ ] I'm going to these classes and [ __ ] I'm going to do this [ __ ] I'm going try get home to my baby my daughter on man you know what I'm saying so definitely yeah that's what that was in on so have you've been having a lot more opportunities come your way since you got out in terms of you got labels talking to you or anything like that yeah but I don't want to speak on that because I don't want to you know it's it's beautiful I'm going just say it's beautiful you know what I'm saying we just going to let happen what happened right you know what I'm saying it's beautiful it's going to be a movie but we just going to let it happen we ain't going to speak on it definitely do you tap in with anybody in La when you come out here nah I mean I have before not necessarily tap in it's just love and respect you know what I'm saying like you know just what's up I'm out here I'm in your city like you know [ __ ] tap in in my city all the time damn near every rapper you can think of just hit me Bo what's up baby I'm in time it ain't it just you know what I'm saying not that they got through or nothing but but I always hear La has a bad reputation to Out of Towners in terms of like people getting extorted or set up and robbed and all that kind sh I just die if that's what it is really yeah we just do that I don't know how I don't know how little [ __ ] we just do it like that but is that the kind of warning you hear before you come to La people are like listen don't be careful who you tap in with I ain't wor about it we ain't doing we ain't going so like you know what I'm saying go with your move you know what I'm saying and that's the end of that but uh everything I do it's about love like you know what I'm saying like the homie alshan Martin and his people I I [ __ ] with him before I went in like I was supposed to come down here for like a I want to say a Thanksgiving drive or something that was having I a never got to do like know what I'm saying it was a bunch of you know that why I say it's it's people I was supposed to you know what I'm saying just [ __ ] with but I couldn't I'm on the run from the feds and then I ain't trying to bring that kind of heat out here with me you know what I'm saying and then so when I got out it was just like [ __ ] I'm happy and blessed that I'm being allowed to be a part of like to do my music being allowed to travel being allowed to do this like you know what I'm saying so you know anything I'm be involved in is going to be positive and it's going to be for the good it's going to be for you know what I'm saying you feel me but yeah I'm like I'm I'm going to come out here I got to pull up on Gates you know what I'm saying that's my boy K Gates yeah so how did he first reach out no that's my baby I've been knowing Gates since 08 oh okay so like I know him before he was Kevin gay but it was just like like I met him at the Trey Day you know what I'm saying I used to rock with Trey a lot I was there he was with I think Hurricane Chris and uh I was walking I had met Chris at the other try that [ __ ] this was at the ozone Awards though when Trey punched Mike Jones in the nose that's why I met him I met him he was with Dr in you know what I'm saying it was just cool we were both really [ __ ] up he had the same black boo mod flip on our head it was just a real solid [ __ ] like genuine I heard Kevin Gat before he was a rapper was a very uh yeah he was gen he it was always genuine and silid so like you know what I'm saying like I went did that little time and then I got out and then I'm look on TV he on never pushy te I'm like oh that's cool I'm like Dam I'm happy for homie I wasn't rapping in or no [ __ ] like that but I was like going to try eventually then I start rapping he caught this case so when he got out he was seeing me he was like a man look at my baby you know what I'm saying and it was just genuine it's always love so it's like that's another thing when I say encouragement like yeah I had quit but then you know I me [ __ ] came to me and say hey [ __ ] G just solders you out time about Cel both like then [ __ ] like is that his name or what is he say I say he said whatever he want to say that's my baby right like you know him like yes I know him that's my guy like you know what I'm saying like that's my baby where did the cartel B come from well my granny name me both okay that's my granny name you know what I'm saying and Cel like that's was they name of like that's how I was going to run it like you know what I'm saying pretty much not like a as far as like I had Straight Cash cartel but it was like I'm not doing that [ __ ] like that and people would just calling me cartel like it was my name right and they and it was like just cartel BR so I just ran with it like you know what I'm saying my granny named me bro and everybody kept calling me cartel you know what I'm saying so it was like [ __ ] it I just ran with that [ __ ] like that that [ __ ] people love it you know what I'm saying like and Houston is really like cartel City for real people don't know that [ __ ] like is right it's right there man usou [ __ ] up bro it is like like Houston [ __ ] up bro like this really you know what I'm saying is it [ __ ] up with like crazy Mass immigration type [ __ ] well that's been that so it's that's no that's old news yeah that's no you know what saying that's family so but as far as like how the cartels be how they try to make like they like them [ __ ] really ain't that Houston like you they y yeah yeah you know what I'm saying them the people you don't want to play with no I never forget on Lakewood on Woodland Street man rest in peace Perkin man I think I was what 15 dude had his head cut off and his uh dick cut off and his mouth and like I to say bro houst to [ __ ] up that's crazy that's statement right there like you know what I'm saying like that I say like Houston [ __ ] up it could go this but it also can be this it also can be a beautiful city to where you can raise your family inste it's so big that you can live on another side of town and be a whole new person with a no [ __ ] never see you and be on another side of town or another side of town or another side of town so like you got to either be financially in the RT or just want to be a part of the [ __ ] you feel what I'm saying cuz you got options in Houston you know what I'm saying you got options you know what I'm saying it's all kind of money out there though too so it's like you got to pick and choose it's your choices you know what I'm saying your chances and your choices baby definitely um did you catch wind of the fact that a few months back uh a fellow Texan came on the podcast and declared himself to be basically the the number one gay [ __ ] from Dallas I don't I don't look man he was wearing a full orange jumpsuit oh my God those are actually the sunglasses right there I I man I don't know man fresh out of prison might hit a little different saying you know I prison taught me not to judge people okay because a lot of [ __ ] homeboys who they don't know is end up [ __ ] with boys yeah you know what I'm saying like like they like you you it'll [ __ ] you up like them [ __ ] is you know what I'm saying so it's just nasty and to me I'm not gay so it's nasty and disgusting to me so but see no evil speak no evil hear no evil you know what I'm saying what I'm saying so it's like it's just wild but I'mma say I'mma say with that note to each they own you feel what I'm saying like that's what they allowing y'all to do with you from I who the [ __ ] am I to speak on but did you see the clip where he's saying the big X the plug he's like he pulled up on me and big X is like no I did not pull up on like he's like trying to make it very clear I ran into homie it's cool but I did not pull up on you know a little there a line there I mean big ex cool I [ __ ] I met him he cool dude man I I plan on we got some [ __ ] coming too oh really but uh I mean like I say man Different Strokes for different folks you know what I'm saying that's how the GD said so I'll just leave it at that man you know I don't want to offend nobody I ain't got no R but that ain't how we moving where I'm from like we ain't going for no [ __ ] like that but that don't mean it's wrong from where they from they may be going for that [ __ ] they may be cool with where they from you know what I'm saying that don't make them no hoes that don't mean because he doing that he probably possibly won't push your [ __ ] in you know I'm saying PE your potato y don't know that [ __ ] you know what I'm saying like he don't strike me as the killer type but anything is possible yeah like you don't know like I don't be knowing I'm not worried about none of these people I know how it go where I'm from so like I can't tell you about the next man you feel me and I just leave that [ __ ] at that but where I'm from like no like yeah that's what maxo said cuz I called maxo about that he said hey man that's Dallas don't don't ask me about that hey hell no like hell no hey it be weird though because the time different now you know what I'm saying so you got to you know I just I got I see was just way different man just seeing how the internet was and how this was and I feel like old man I ain't Li I feel like old man the world is just passing you by changes ain't no way this cool ain't no way this is like but this what is going on and if you got some a problem with it you know what I'm saying they'll cancel culture your ass like you know say I feel like you're probably immune to that yeah I don't really give a [ __ ] because I'm not worried about the see the problem come when [ __ ] worried about what the next [ __ ] doing right what is you worried about what the next [ __ ] doing right the same way you how you ask me that question you can ask many people that question they got all ho ass [ __ ] to say but I'm not him he not me and I don't give a damn right you know what I'm saying I'm not getting paid out that that ain't feeding my family ain't got nothing to do with me like you know what I'm saying like people be so worried about what the next [ __ ] got going on get your [ __ ] together you know saying like whatever [ __ ] doing like get your [ __ ] together the world has changed a lot cuz like even when I was asking KPM about that kind of [ __ ] that's basically what he was saying too hey I respect whatever people want to do with their lives but it's not for me it's probably the best best thing for anybody to say in that situation yeah I don't where did you get the Rich Forever chain W that's that's nothing I don't even talk about [ __ ] like that you not signed to Rick Ross or anything nah what about the true life chain under it too it's like took a wris in peace tuck a tri but uh I don't I don't care about [ __ ] like that talk about [ __ ] like that you know what I'm saying you don't like to talk about where you got your chains oh yeah that's because it's [ __ ] that [ __ ] don't matter like [ __ ] what I'm saying to me like [ __ ] be making me put clothes on and [ __ ] I really be institutionalized and burnt that I'm burnt out like a [ __ ] so like I come in this [ __ ] with a musle shirt on and some slippers I don't give a [ __ ] about this [ __ ] okay you know what I'm saying I got a team saying Bo you got to put clothes on bro you got to do this BR you got to do this you got to put some other people's chains on yeah no you got to be [ __ ] up but uh like they just be like here so okay go here so is the comment section going to fill me in on exactly where the chains came from who I I guess but uh I have to rely on them yeah so uh like it's just it's just crazy bro like people be expecting and adapting to a lot of [ __ ] you know what I'm saying like the [ __ ] that supposed to matter don't matter and the [ __ ] that do matter don't matter you know I'm saying like Rich Forever that's a slogan that I always ran with because I love after reading Rick Ross books than the motivation you know what I'm saying like that [ __ ] tatted on me like you know what I'm saying that rich for on me you feel me so it just like always something it was like if I do want to get some some super live [ __ ] I don't know what to get because it's like I don't care about [ __ ] like that you know what I'm saying and it's like I like I be thinking about buying land real estate houses like that's what prison did to my mind you feel what I'm saying it's like [ __ ] got bad value in the wrong [ __ ] you know what I'm saying and that's why a lot of rppers and a lot of people go broke you feel me they don't know what to invest their money in you feel what I'm saying they don't know what to do with this and they don't know what to do with that they don't know what to so they they go and try to impress the Joneses and they try to go impress this and then they look up three four years later they don't have [ __ ] or they stuck in a rut because they don't know what they do with their money you know what I'm saying the label ain't doing this for them or they ain't doing that for them no you got to invest in yourself you got to learn about IRAs you got to learn about stocks you got to learn about that's what that's you know what I'm saying get something to put up for your kids you feel me so that's more or less what I be on definitely what's with the mob ties tattoo yeah you know it is what it is you [ __ ] with J prinson though it's family okay you know what I'm saying like that's family family honeycom braier finesse 2 times uh uh that's them in they business I [ __ ] with finesse I got songs and [ __ ] finesse cool dude finesse pull up on me all the time in the city okay so like that's my guy I told him I going to go out there and see him but at the same time like I don't know brazy you know what I'm saying I don't like I don't know dude you feel what I'm saying like that's some [ __ ] they got going on from an outsider perspective they definitely created a bunch of [ __ ] drama and a bunch of controversy that everybody couldn't avoid even if you're out here everybody was paying attention to it I mean it's cool but you don't know what tip it on you don't know if you them [ __ ] can be on the phone talking like yeah keep doing it you don't know what [ __ ] going a lot of people were suspecting that cuz they're on the same label but I've seen that many times I said like can't get you got to you can't go off of what you see with this [ __ ] man you just got to be you real and thoral to the Bone you know what I'm saying you can't go off of songs [ __ ] boom boom bang bang all that old [ __ ] that don't mean they Killers you know what I'm saying [ __ ] uh holding this that that uh what 100K 200k that money probably be fake as [ __ ] you don't know like you know what I'm saying you got to go off with stero bread I think that's what that's that's part of the main reason the city love me you know what I'm saying cuz I'm th I ain't trying to be like nobody [ __ ] see me here with a thousand [ __ ] in the club pull up doing my best [ __ ] and then they might see me the next day A Chicken Plus on ways side with some slippers on thugging you know what I'm saying give me something to eat I'm myself I ain't trying to be like the next [ __ ] man you feel what I'm saying and that's a problem also because I got to learn like I'm not as I'm not regular no more my people stand on there in my ass about that [ __ ] because they like I me I'm just B I don't give a [ __ ] about none of this [ __ ] I don't give a damn about none of this [ __ ] you know what I'm saying but at the end of the day when I go somewhere and 20 30 people running up to me asking me to take pictures you know you see what I'm saying that's when you realize I'm not regular even if I want to be regular yeah like and it really Clacks on me that's what I'm saying like I got you know like BR you got to be I don't got to be dressed here I can go in here with some that's why my [ __ ] [ __ ] is Mexican OT I love that [ __ ] to the to the death dope cuz we are we ourselves like we ain't trying to be all that [ __ ] like you know what I'm saying you feel me like we just ourselves this come up is crazy man that's my baby It Go Hard than a [ __ ] like it Go Hard than a [ __ ] we got [ __ ] coming so it's like what I'm saying like I [ __ ] with people like that I don't have time to people trying to figure out how they going to keep up and how they going to do that man be yourself man get you some money man I seen enough [ __ ] out here to yeah for the both of us so I'm going tell you man if you get some money out this music get your money out music stay your [ __ ] ass up the streets you know what I'm saying stay out of jail you feel what I'm saying get you some coins and do something with your money don't waste your money don't go try to keep up with the Joneses TR try to go buy all these CS you don't understand how you for don't try to get this big old ass house you don't want how you going to pay the rent they go buy all this drill that's going to depreciate and value and do all that [ __ ] go get some IRAs you know what I'm saying go get you some [ __ ] CDs go get you some stocks learn learn the more really spend your money real estate get you some highs build you some high you know I'm saying get you some rent money coming in from your highes build that get you some fun and some count for your kids and [ __ ] like that you know what I'm saying [ __ ] get out here doing all this that and other then you know they die cuz somebody try to Rob them or playing this that and other broke or whatnot and then who gonna take care of your kids you see what I'm saying like who gonna take care of your kids 100% takes a different type of Dude to go out and take those serious felony chances when you got kids at home ex exactly you know what I'm saying so that's why I say man it really be on you it really be it really be on your mind State it's like what you moving towards you know what I'm saying and that's why I say that's why I feel like my city love me like that like the South love me like that because a [ __ ] don't care about a [ __ ] being they self I'm trying to teach the next [ __ ] how to advance in life I ain't encouraging no [ __ ] you know what I'm saying like if the [ __ ] come my way I'm th% with the [ __ ] I don't know how to turn it off I saw that cuz I saw a video of you fighting some dude in the street back in the day man that [ __ ] bad I'm I was skinny the [ __ ] yeah you know what I'm saying but [ __ ] like that's [ __ ] like [ __ ] encourage the [ __ ] you know what I'm saying it's good to see a fair one in Texas though yeah no but I I actually pulled up to his hood okay you know what I'm saying and I was his [ __ ] I was nervous and a [ __ ] that day but like [ __ ] got me [ __ ] up but once again and I was on the ankor monitor I saw that too I dumb than a [ __ ] like man a doing dumb [ __ ] you know what I'm saying just so happen I'm right here and I'm coming entertain [ __ ] you know I'm saying but that's neither here nor there you got live you learn from your mistakes shut the [ __ ] up for real audio listeners that was me talking to the dog just want to make sure um okay are you on good terms with SCE walking now we would up on bad terms oh okay y'all got if if you your if you got a real part y'all you going to get into it to fall out about something and it ain't like y'all want like on the next level [ __ ] you just y'all falling out about something right you feel what I'm saying like you going to have disagreements with people that's how you know it's real if you got a friend that you ain't never had a disagreement for something ain't right with that that ain't your friend you know what I'm saying cuz it's like I'll give you another example yeah you [ __ ] be be these [ __ ] in the industry and they everybody successful you don't know these [ __ ] I need to know who you is when you got it I need to know how you is when you broke I need to know how you is when you're going through it with your woman I need to know how you is when your family members ding I need to know how you is when you got [ __ ] going on with your kids that's how I know who you is I don't know you cuz now if I just see you and you always up you always just successful I don't know who you is cuz soon as a storm come you might switch up on me I don't know who the [ __ ] you is you know what what I'm saying so like that's my genuine like that's my homeboy like we kick it play the game talk [ __ ] so we get into it from time to time I don't give a [ __ ] like you know saying I know that man daddy like you know what I'm saying like that [ __ ] different we that's my man like that's cool do you think it hurts his Legend status that he's [ __ ] [ __ ] on only fans no do what the [ __ ] you want to do yeah to me that helps [ __ ] it makes them more legendary man you do what the [ __ ] you want to do like that's the why is somebody worried about what the next man doing once you see the image of S Walker beating some cheeks up it is is kind of hard to forget it I still got it stored in my brain I ain't seen it so I mean I don't know but it's like [ __ ] so that's I'm not trying to think about it but I definitely got it stored up here but that's him and his thing you know what I'm saying he's doing his thing yeah that's him that's him and what he got going on you feel me Life's too short to just make money from rap if you can make money off your dick too you got to do that man whatever you doing to get yours who how can the [ __ ] judge you when they rent do or you need that bit money for that business or you trying to advance life any kind of way you know what I'm saying so that like who the [ __ ] or what are you going to do with your commentary to help me get where I got to go cuz if you don't have any ideas or you ain't got nothing for me I don't give a [ __ ] about what you talking about I could commentate a scew walker sex tape any day I could probably add a lot to it as well man wow voice over walk I'm coming all right last messy question is um I interviewed a podcaster from Texas named uh tte n recently I don't know who that is you don't know about this no all right I'll spare you then well what was it well apparently he he got arrested recently and he he snitched on the spot about his homies planning to kill a rapper and like on the spot told the cops about it which was kind of insane for us because he's been telling everybody he's gangster and [ __ ] and I don't know hopefully those details are not correct but that was just kind of a shocking thing that I had really seen happen with a podcaster up till now I mean I I mean that's that's between him and the [ __ ] he quote unquote gangster in the gang with like you know what I'm saying I don't know what the man these [ __ ] live by different laws I'm under the Old Law so [ __ ] I can't tell you about this dude and all I say I be associate myself with everybody you know what I'm saying but where I'm from you that's a noo that's a new generation that's also that's that's in Austin I came home and I was [ __ ] up out people makeing like that [ __ ] cool the snitching oh man there's just so much of it now it's kind of hard no it's just that just been places where I know they're going to kill you if you come in at USP they take your paperwork and they see anything like that they are going to kill you really death that's what's going to happen Jesus you know what I'm saying so like if you get to a medium you they'll just not [ __ ] with you but if you go to that pen they are going to kill you I don't care what race you are what you got going who you affiliated with where you from they going to [ __ ] kill you so it's like if that's what a mother choosing to do with they life I don't I just don't associate with them you know what I'm saying that's that's just you know hey man do you like you know what I'm saying I ain't I don't have no comment for you you feel me that ain't me you feel me so that is what that is makes sense um okay so where do you feel like you're at right now what do you what do you need to do to get your career to the next level keep doing what the [ __ ] I'm doing you know what I'm saying keep getting this to bottle keep getting the corn keep uh dropping the hits keep collabing with these different artists and keep making these hits and doing these numbers like you know what I'm saying if ain't broke don't fix this just keep going forward people going to gravitate they like I said they love me for me you know what I'm saying it ain't about all that other [ __ ] they want they know where I came from and they want to see me keep going definitely no I mean it's super motivating to see you getting out and having the people really embrace you because as you know a lot of times people get locked up they do three four five years [ __ ] forget about them exactly so that's that's it's very motivating to see that the people are behind you you know yeah I I appreciate it I love it you know what I'm saying I just love the fact the [ __ ] know they can walk up on me and we can have a regular conversation you know what I'm saying sometimes you know with some artist they don't be cool they be nervous a [ __ ] but you know I'm I'm I'm him where I'm from so it feel good you know what I'm saying knowing where I came from I can get something that encourage [ __ ] man go get you some money go get you some money man [ __ ] all the [ __ ] go get you some money go get your [ __ ] together man been out 60 days that's it I ain't have no hand dots I ain't nobody come out beat me at no gates with no 100 th and I ain't I ain't had it ain't no [ __ ] come just keeping all the way solid yeah yeah [ __ ] w w this I ain't get none of that I had to get out the mud from the ground you know what I'm saying what I'm saying from the ground like so it's no excuses you feel me [ __ ] I just ain't have no money on my books [ __ ] is you talking about [ __ ] like you know what I'm saying what I'm saying I just couldn't buy some noodles so what's your excuse you feel what I'm saying so you can have any excuse or any reason to be out of there or you can use that [ __ ] to go get you where you need to go it's just on you like it's it's what you want you want to stay broke okay you choosing to stay in that lifestyle stay in that lifestyle you want to get you some money go get you some money you know what I'm saying you got to use the resources around you to get somewhere baby you got some kind of resources around you to help you get something together you got something going on something in some shape way form of fashion you feel me like the next time I come on here I want to be on here I want like him you feel me I want to be they want to be able to tell you yeah I just bought some land over there you know what I'm saying Adam I got this going on over here you pulling up I got this like yeah I just I got three houses and I'm getting real estate in three different states that's what I want to be able to tell you about I don't want to be telling you about yeah my partner just caught another murder case you know what I'm saying well I just paid my lawyer Bond and yeah that's going always being the fake I don't want to talk about that [ __ ] though I want to tell you where the [ __ ] I'm going to life I going to tell you about uh the car that I'm putting by my daughter I want to tell you about that [ __ ] you feel me you know that that [ __ ] there because a [ __ ] was born in the [ __ ] that wasn't even an option slanging that [ __ ] was never an option getting out here was never option I ain't had no choice with that [ __ ] I was born in that [ __ ] [ __ ] I want to talk to getting out that [ __ ] [ __ ] that [ __ ] that [ __ ] don't mean nothing I've been out here 60 days on tell tell me about what you can't do don't tell me nothing about what you can't do you know whatever the [ __ ] you want to do like that like for real yeah and that's that's why I stand I am weirdly motivated by what you just said because I can feel the energy of a dude who was just locked up in a [ __ ] cage for four years and how you actually are really taking like not taking [ __ ] for granted right now and you know that you got this opportunity in front of you and that is a very special important place to be in your life you think I'm [ __ ] around think I'm going to waste it I like it [ __ ] I ain't got time to be playing you know what I'm saying I mean I got to adapt to some [ __ ] like you know what I'm saying like it's some [ __ ] I gotta I'm burnt out on some [ __ ] you know what I'm saying like feel me my baby my people we F to go to state 48 we F to go to [ __ ] I'm going to go to uh McDonald's [ __ ] you talking about like really you're not feeling the highend steak houses [ __ ] that [ __ ] like you know what I'm saying I'm F to go you like B you got to get a custom B you got to do this B you got to I don't have to do none of that yeah I'm going to go spend $9 [ __ ] up you know what I'm saying it's like strip club like like I never understood how [ __ ] could go I mean it's cool I made money off of it before so on the other end but [ __ ] go trick off all they money to impress people right like you literally going to club and you'll throw all your money in the on the [ __ ] to make it look like you got money to everybody else the richest people in the world try to don't show you don't even see it in them m War Buffett got the same house he was born and grew up in he drive the same little Toyota or Honda that little bitty called you'll never know it you feel what I'm saying like it's a message in that man what is we doing the first time I ever got booked at a strip club and they paid me to be there and gave me a th000 ones to throw really made me think differently about all the other times in my life that I went to the strip club and spent my own money own money dumb assig like you what I'm saying like yeah like come on man you got to change the perspectives like you feel me you got you you have to change the perspective you got to [ __ ] want to say stand on business all right stand on that business get you something [ __ ] what you got to show for all that [ __ ] you out here doing you know what I'm talking about yeah oh you like that what you got a prison sentence what you got your mama said your kids ain't got their daddy what you got [ __ ] you standing on business that seem like you ain't standing on business to me you do a boot camp no I ain't [ __ ] have a bunch of aspiring rappers come stay there and every day you just yell at them and tell them how to be better I ain't got to do that it could be a good business model though they can go to Lakewood Lakewood my boot camp your mom ain't never sold all the food stamps nah yeah yeah that's why I say like [ __ ] trying to be something that you really don't want to be homie you know what I'm saying you really don't want to be like you don't you don't really want that like my the the the realest [ __ ] I ever seen what name that movie didn't say that uh equalizer part two when he went got the little boy from upstairs he was going to ride and kill for his brother that came now you want to kill somebody kill me H the gun point to kill me come on now five pounds of pressure you can't do it you took the gun say [ __ ] come on you want to kill somebody you know he I lied to you [ __ ] I lied to your punk ass put that gun in his face yeah [ __ ] I lied to you [ __ ] you you know what you don't know what death is [ __ ] [ __ ] is you talking about you don't know what death is [ __ ] you you don't you don't know what death is you think you know what death is [ __ ] you playing you can really be something you got a chance [ __ ] you faking out here [ __ ] stop faking homie [ __ ] really do that to you cuz you going to [ __ ] around and scare somebody yeah and when you going to scare somebody you know I'm understand what I'm saying you feel me so before you scare somebody go on handle your business and be somebody I haven't seen it but sounds great I'm just telling you what I just put a little T on the two but most definitely got a message out of it you know what I'm saying so yeah that's all that d c your but man I'm impressed I feel like you got a big career ahead of you most definitely I so appreciate you having me too man I I got on I flew out here for this H man flew out here for a couple reasons man but I most definitely want to come see you since the time I talked to you on the FaceTime oh yeah I was in halfway High then I ain't see all this [ __ ] being this far you say I Ain see I ain't see a few views later I ain't going to lie but it happened how it happened man I'm happy for it a man I appreciate it you got a great story and I feel like you're going to be a a Texas Legend and you going make a lot of money in the next couple years yeah most definitely that's the plan baby that's the plan hold me to it you know say hold me to it I'm going hit you up when I come out there we coming out there soon I a come out there pull up on Tommy G coming out there too he want to come Lakewood oh really damn I wonder what title he going to give you I ain't going to lie mother don't come to the lake man like they a that Lake they ain't coming to the lake but tell me you say you going to come I seen the [ __ ] I'm like okay you know what I'm saying it's all it's it's going to be like hanging out with the most dangerous Hoovers in the world oh man it's going to be something like that it's always like the most dangerous of something but that should be a good one I'm for that all right I appreciate you man I appreciate you huh C appreciate you g the most def no jumper coolest podcast in World check us on YouTube Tik Tok patreon and Instagram like comment subscribe nojumper.com if you want to support and go turn my man up on all social media platforms and streaming services yeah appreciate y'all

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Length: 90min 28sec (5428 seconds)

Published: Wed Apr 10 2024