Should There Be a Limit to Gender Identities? | Good Morning Britain

you are transgender i well i transitioned from male to female but i don't i've never referred to myself as transgender and if i did i think my friends would go ballistic my opinion is there are two genders male and female sometimes you're not lucky enough to be born into the right one so you transition into the one that you see me it's eminently sensible and i have complete respect for people that do that it's not an easy process physically psychologically emotionally or any of those things i salute you for your common sense now let's bring you into this equation you think it is right do you identify i'm a man that's right so in gender what are you I'm a cisgendered man I mean so that means if you were so you were born a woman and therefore nice to identify as a woman so you're a cisgendered women okay nothing because of my physical that's because female now who identify with how you marginally why serious is gendered I'm honest anything if I if I may assume not assists anything whereas to mister man we know but you assist gendered matters gendered anything but hang on this mean well that means that you were born the way that you identify it I'm just born a man but someone who transition are you is just you calling me something I'm not well you can refer to yourself as just a man if if if if you like but most people identify as male or female man or woman that's right the vast majority of people but that doesn't mean that there aren't other people who identify differently there are no different genders on this BBC list apparently right one of them is two-spirit person poly gender pangender new Troy's inter-gender I have to say I have no idea what they mean and I'm I can't don't ask me to list off spirit person I think that's someone who identifies with their native background into their gems you know I think this is just like a vibe that somebody's having like when you tick a list male or female doing your passport or something is this not just this is just they are this is just a bit of an agenda is I know you support what the BBC's do this by the way this is the public broadcaster now the public broadcaster paid for by mass with the licence fee is now instructing children there are a hundred genders they can identify as you have come to defend it and you don't know what half of these are but hang on peers ignorance isn't a defense you're the ignorant one and you're the one defending it well here's you're the one that doesn't nobody is as well of course I'm about to tell you you know what agenda is a fairly new were stemming from the Greek a poor meaning separate app origin there's an umbrella term meaning a gender separate from male/female and anything in between must all having a very strong a specific gendered feeling that latter part is key then distinguishing it from a gender somebody a bully can you explain that to me what does that mean well that means that someone identifies differently to you and that's what is it can you explain which is one of the hundred genders that kids now have to be what is it but how good a you know it's not it's not it's not University Challenge I just told you what it is this is what my problem with when I was a child university level for us to get our heads around a hundred different gender identities and I think Nichol makes a really good point it's actually it's about personality it's just their thing if I was that I mean I spent my whole childhood watching the animals of farthing woods you know I you're impressionable you know you've got to be careful i but you didn't I don't know but I thought I was a squirrel I thought I was gonna grow up and be surrounded in a tree surrounded by nuts you know I'm German what is new troy's oh come on are we gonna go through a 100 you know any of them national television to defend the BBC telling kids are a hundred genders I'm now reading out a number of these hundred genders I've never heard of them we've no idea what they are but see you want to encourage my BBC to instruct our kids that they should be one of these genders but that isn't the point the fact is that is the point the fact is that people identify in different ways and when you get bogged down by the idea that children might know that they're different that there might be helped to understand why they're different that the teachers teaching them might be prepared with the apparatus to explain it to them that is a good thing absolutely you know what new choices you might find it strange and unusual and we might not be able to answer what everyone if the 100 is that doesn't exist wellyou've is suspect you picked the picking them around you have things like no for I picked three then you have no idea what they are do you know what new troy's is tell me tell me well okay I don't know a mention you a nine year old kid and the BBC's told you to be one of these so what's new choice well no that's not what would happen what would happen is the kid would say how they're feeling here's what new choices each I might you want to explain have you got any kids no I don't know I've four kids right including three boys right so I'm just trying to imagine a conversation with my three when they were nine and my daughter's nearly nine as well seven and a half right new toys someone with a null or neutral gender being neither male nor female and in some cases a person who may also seek to reduce signs of their physicals eggs right new toys which is absolutely fine if that's their vibe right we should be teaching children not to be black kids can be awful we should be teaching children to just let people get on with it let people have their own vibe I'm not what is wrong with just being male female or trans and just have your parity in other words three things that you're male or female or you identify something else right but they don't do it has these ridiculous terms that even you the world expert on gender has no idea what any of them are and I can't even myself be an expert to experience on transition I feel a bit like Dinah but being tested all these details here I'm not yeah you sound a bit like Dinah she never knows she's talking about either so this is my point you're not on charge of your brief Benjamin I switch to having a go at Diana Baur conversation actually I think the truth is that kids identify in different ways and the real thing that we should be focused on here what's the job of a parent and a school teacher with a child it's and make them feel comfortable in who they are or also oh let me throw you some here you having been a parent of four kids not using that as a stick against you right I just happen to have had four kids and I believe the job of a parent is actually to navigate them through life which is difficult especially to keep things relatively simple and to let the child know that they can come and talk to their parents if they feel a bit different I know if you start telling those kids will reach a stage where - just to be mischievous and to play up a bit they'll all say dad I'm new toys today right no I don't think you do that that's exactly what kids do me I'm telling you not any more kids do this long actually if they've got a little label they can attach themselves to and be encouraged to do it find the Biba say your child they will do well they know they can talk to you but if they you know if they feel differently and there are things that we can do to help them adapt in life that's the whole world shouldn't adapt you don't agree that there are a hundred let me get a word well I agree that people have identified as all these things and the truth is I don't accept that you can convince a kid that they are something other than they are we talk about kids being confused by this the truth is that if you're not assist man or women then you've been controlling for hundreds of years I'm a man well fine and that's how you can identify insulted and offended that you're calling me assist man when I'm actually a man well you see but let me give the offense business right when you give the offense business where everyone is offended by all this terminology right actually I'm offended by you calling me assessment and it is actually used as an insult when people are called sis well I was soon I'm being called a right now and I don't like it but as soon as you box people into identities and splits people off from each other doesn't it why is this all happening now I think it gives people a sense of who they are and I don't accept we could promote this you know I learned about World War two for several years at school but I'm yet to think invading Poland is a good idea you can't convince identify there's a penguin at the Sea Life Aquarium in London that is currently being reared gender neutral apparently has gay parents right mum something to say on this subject this new world of self-identification can as I did earlier now identify as two-spirit new troy's penguin well you're not a penguin because Jesus bit guys who says I'm not well I mean that's not a thing that how I this is the distinction people do identify that year Tuesday merit new troy's pangender penguin and how dare you how dare you tell me I can't identify as that how dare you offend way make it ridiculous well only if they want to make it ridiculous you know common sense says that these are different normals Benjamin genders that real people have identified as they haven't identified as a penguin we've been male and female for two hundred thousand years we have what is risen in the last of the last two or three decades we've got a large number of people transgender ring quite rightly as our wonderful guest has today and I they have my complete respect what this does it actually makes I think people who have transgendered it makes them a figures of fun it exposes them to needless mockery it makes the whole thing look ridiculous you more and actually the real victims tend to be people who have transgendered and have to put up with this nonsense no I don't think that's a defense of being ignorant the fact that people when I went to school my teachers couldn't believe there's more than one sexuality they're incapable of dealing when I came out as gay as a teammate right we're con journey we're making progress how many sexualities do you think there are well don't ask me - well I'm gay there's bisexual there's pansexual there's also how many other sexualities do you have an answer yourself no tell me well but no because I'm not the I'm not you nor a hundred I'm not gonna leave any choice gender non-conforming basic five second your own sex or you love the opposite sex or you like like a bit about yeah I mean II never have to go back to be attracted to more than one gender into their agenda probably won't really put me a hundred different sexualities now well then you because if I define like bizarrely attracted to new troy's people right which I didn't know I was but maybe I am maybe if there were 100 you choice people here now I would suddenly feel sexually attracted to does that make me a sis male new Troy's ility or something what I have no idea what you just said it won't make you pansexual because that's when you attracted to someone regardless of we don't all have to adapt to that we just let people get on with their business okay let's just let people get on with their B yeah the BBC told us this is an informed professional view from a qualified teacher who is a personal social health and economic education specialist her opinion is based on her own extensive extensive research and many conversations were young LGBTQ people she is not saying these and medical definitions of gender but is talking about how people identify to put it another way she's talking complete cobblers okay thank you both very much indeed I think and apologies to anybody who doesn't identify with having cobblers or if you're a cobbler and you make shoes I meant shoemakers if you if you have a problem a shoemakers maybe you're a new choice cobbler and you feel ourselves strangely attracted to cobblers in which case good luck see I respect you nonconformist who knows you

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Id: vDT-Yj5n6zE

Length: 12min 29sec (749 seconds)

Published: Wed Sep 11 2019

Reddit Comments

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How can you honestly invite someone on your show just to mock and ridicule their perspective?

What fucking grifters.

[u/D3ADCONT3XT]

Piers Morgan needs to take a long walk on a short pier. Cretious fuck, when he pissed off to the USA I was so happy, only for him to crawl back and the idiots at ITV to give him a platform.

Our media figures here in the UK, both liberal and conservative, are disgustingly transphobic. The few leftists we have are good though, Owen Jones and Ash Sarkar are cool.

[u/CyberSynGang]

Transphobes have been telling the same jokes on repeat for the last five years. The Tumblrites they're making fun moved on with their lives long ago. How come they haven't? Are the three braincells they use stuck in a loop or something?

[u/CambriaKilgannon11]

Has someone like, actually told him to his face why that doesn't work?

Does Piers actually attempt to engage the public discourse or does he just try to say something worth watching so that he can keep making dat skrilla

[u/Mortazo]

Ahh Piers "hacks murder victims phones" Morgan, a truly trustworthy arbiter of social values.

[u/Lingenfelter]

If you go to GMB, you should know that Piers have a long story of clashing with diversity people, so this person is just stupide to go on this show. And piers is right if you wanna defend something on national tv or everywhere you have to know your subject.

[u/VeryDistinguishable]

He smells like soiled underpands swirled in seaweed wine and left in a warm, airless place for a few years.

[u/zchans38]

Poor guy couldnt even finish a fucking sentence jesus christ