Rare - Muhammad Ali and Joe Frazier appear on same talk show - Part 2

but for yourself so we know your style you're sort of you know high style would you guess how he lives out in the country roll his film and I'm gonna show you how Muhammad lives in his very home out in the training camp I think it might surprise you have you ever been there you can see that's your Bell I take it that bell rings every morning at 4:00 throat and every fight in those two bunk houses must be down here dressed by five red run it rings again at eight o'clock for breakfast and five o'clock for dinner ten o'clock everybody's in bed but the neighbors get sewers they know they don't give me no trouble most of them hear that bill and they go to church I want to see the inside of your passes this is all antique house a replica of a 200 year old cabin design everything all antique bed in it yeah coal stove no electricity coal all lamps everything is real just like in the days of Jack Johnson no come right in just like the days of Jack Johnson don't phrase you don't stand a chance we met through wiping my feet oh come on hey I love what you've done with the place yes old antique I did all this up myself dig this 200 year old rope beard here it's just about about 190 years old I think he's had it reinforced and very nice everything the bench rope the walls are solid yeah I told an old bridge of 95 year old bridge trailer old bridge and how do you make it look like real dirt on the walls well this that is real dirt nothing harder Mario the construction manager bill just place he's gonna clean all this off for me I like it it's okay it's the way I like it picture of a loved one all right old table over here I couldn't use this table weighs about 850 pounds this is me that's a real oak tree it was 600 grit right laws about 850 pounds try to lift growing this is all antique or if aztlán I picked up this is my real 150 year old coal wall lamp come from a rich man's mansion in Virginia back in 1817 something does he know it's missing no he don't know he's missing but like it inherits me energy crisis don't bother and have coal all lamps I got the big old coal stove over here yeah and the water pump right from the whale underground everything ante real can we look at that's a real cold Oh show me this coffee I'll follow you yes dick this is my only electricity no this is my old coal stove I like that I did getting up in the mornings making my coal getting real naturally something you don't get nowadays everything's a gas electric and during the energy crisis if things do get too bad I can always retreat the right here I got a big two or three tons of coal outside mom timber and I start making my own fires to have a good time I don't know why I figured you more for lace curtains and let's assume you know well after the fights after the fights I'll go back to much earlier home and I live in the modern things but I like this rough thing what's here this is no antique water pump or dick this goes 300 feet in the ground I don't drink all that water you drink in the city they'd like to be more green and stuffing this is this is real no pollution just comes right out of a nice cold take a taste of it all right looks nice something swimming in it Naz best bubbles oh let me get let me get another when you're in New York you stay in Central Park or work well I rather prefer seeing there's more wrestling oh that's good dishes and stuff here you get things the hundreds of years old no electricity no electricity idea watch television no television I'll go over my kitchen to watch television what do you want I do i watch the chart across they can't be so sometimes who's got the most color guess what Co is do you prefer me and now that me and Joe phrases on you show I guarantee you everybody think he'll show up I think he'll sure he told me he's the only one who's got enough guts to call you Cassius well I'm gonna straighten him out after this fight he will be glad to call me Muhammad Ali I promise you that Joe Frazier after this fight will be glad to call me Muhammad Oh we'll see about that and we'll see you right there you know I can walk Joe Frazier and can you work John Carson have another glass of dirty water I'm still working I got a couple more bunk houses the veal and on my friend Lou Beltrami he's a big construction man up there and Harvey Mario they went out made family a little publicity once he's getting ripped off on this two mobiles cab boom Lou Beltrami yes one of my business advisors was Gene Kilroy he's also operate a boy's camp yeah same to you what kind of equipment no say watching that but watching these films have you learned anything from each other were you surprised that he lived that crudely I wish I'd gotten under your killer right no that's that's really all right for people who believe that you know yeah but you know you gotta have a I don't I don't believe that you can have a high coat you know the man is up there trying that's true and but I'm looking at that building I don't really see how he can be comfortable in the cold I know better what is all about everybody he probably let you believe that one else wouldn't but they're for late at night it's like what 7 : it's the 18 of that mountain I know so you think that's a fraud he really has a nice electric blanket in yeah phones in the car I didn't want to come down to your camp well Michael and I flipped a coin and I lost well I think my go ahead enjoy himself and take a look in the gym I believe this in England you know check the Gmail like you wanted but the gym is really more than a real nice everything is is the beautiful at my hand where I live now it's I live out of my home since October I got a great Joe I got interrupted I got a great idea get that shot up on the screen again okay face this way face this way no face this way and lean it lean this way a little bit no no turn just turning head face now pucker your lips up like again no way we just keep agitating I'm gonna tell the people what's happening Nicole stone are there any things we should really be discussing here it has it I mean there's a lot of anti ask you questions yeah I hate to come all this way around ask a question what about what happens if you lose to all that all that stuff you're going next question yes a good question but look here's why it's a good question because after all you've said about him if you lose for the next the closest communist country fine what catch the next jet for the closest communist country to America what does that mean communists get out of here really but to lose the Joe Frazier after all of this talk in the neck you mean you'd have to go behind never guy have made no preparations for loss you come down to 210 I'm moving like I should move I'm no longer plan I'm boxing this man comes in anybody can hit him all the sparring partners are ramming him every day and they are nothing to me no class no footwork no speeding when I get the little bitty gloves on and be real serious and no plan no no we're gonna hold on me you're sticking and moving all he's got is some books in the what kind of gloves I'm around everybody know he's going on gloves like we always have what I'm saying in there Michael you want me so bad that's king with boy you can be in trouble my turning my bells bummer because what I'm gonna do you might be against the law they may put me in jail after this fight they won't come to get me off of the victim I listen we do have a commercial I'd love to see a fight but but the audience no your trainer just fainted because he knows you can hurt a finger this way or certainly gonna fight with you over what's behind we have a message I seem to be um say I think it's time to announce that that man on my right in the red jacket I looked this up in an in current biography and I found out that as a kid you were a marbles champion like crossed my heart and the obvious question is do you still have your marbles and no we were serious about shooting Marvel today and he wasn't for the two girls when they one was black and one was white and the white girl was on proposed to be on my side yeah and someone would switch around he said he had going Harlem so he didn't want the white girl on his side so I'll take the white girl he take the back girl and somehow the gang got the other way and the white girl knocked out to model one time was fun it was two kids two kids may I evil match wits with me I'm speaking colleges in uniform I'll just turn down perfection ship with officer did you know I'm porky right I barely got out of high school and I have so much common sense until they offer me a professorship at the highest university in the world right not gonna have time to think it and you really can't I saw Angelo Dundee get very frightened sick it is you can get no crazing me don't be acting like you're crazy you can stop feeling but you can't block me guess you got your mascara because you because you got the connection in the complexion it's and it's you and scaring me it's a deal okay seriously as if folks has anybody ever asked either of you think hard and Ana answer honestly to take a dive pick a guy yeah ever in your career once just once seriously yes tell about it in a calm voice last I'm using my camp you told me to take a dive can I ask another serious question since it's so quiet in here and we've all could use the rest visit cross either of your minds that one of you could kill the other in the ring never just like airplane palace they have a worse job to me yeah you know flying through them thunderstorms and big old jets and one thing go wrong to explode having like car racers riding that thing 200 mile an hour all that iron is still blowing up burning up it happens in England it happens horse races ice hockey football more than football than boxing so you just figured it'd never happen to you I'm sure the people who are now watching this show I hate to say it but next week we know show come on or whenever it comes on allowed those people gonna be dead so where we gonna say yeah it could happen our intention is not to kill yeah I mean we believe it could happen yeah you in a mood to talk see I'm not I'm ready to fight I'm gonna get you a you food Elena you bear anyone over that's what you think I'll promise you you finished you think in this one one one of it one of the questions a question what about this thing though have you ever considered though me a professional prizefighter you're taking lots of blows to the head both of you throughout your career with the possibility of say permanent brain damage sure just like you say you know the football player basketball player anything could happen you can wait more than this country and cause the war what we can do quit driving cars we heard that let me tell it put it anyone know you're not concerned about two black father's brains been hurt that much now I know you not that wrapped up over our brains you really consider your the word about my brains anybody else's brain we're not worried about it so why are we not worried about you should worry about what else is happening in the world Wayne so why are you so obsessed with our color I have a thing you have a little white job statue look at me like it's so bad because we are the world's two greatest fighter and we're making million dollars in one night and it just don't seem like it you just don't like the idea of us doing it you do it you got own countries you you you own role bosses and you got more mixed in here man me and you ain't what nobody so we just wonder why you upset over what we make a why we hurt why us it happens every day to all of them what if a 12 year old kid came to you a 12 year old black or white kid either one no listen listen and he said I got a good physique and I want to fight him twelve years old no no 1973 would you tell him to go into professional boxing see what he say Joe well I think I would anyway the kid first had to have the mind into it that he wants to be a boxer can't is go out there - well I'm gonna be a boxer take a lot of time let me let me had to add this to it for years it's been a cliche cliche that a black man in this country had either athletics or show business and that was about all he could make it big in and you know four years that's not true anymore with that in mind would you still tell a 12 year old kid of your own to go into question number one I say kid your chances have been a great fighter are good enough to make a good living it's about a hundred thousand to one and if you spend the most of your life trying to be afraid of and you get hurt or you don't make it your whole life is ruined it's too late to get education it's too late to look for a trade or something to fall back on I say no take your education take your mind while you quickly developing go to school learn to read learn to write be a mechanic dear doctor be a lawyer door now learn get your man conditioned then one day same with basketball same with football same with baseball you can be like Muhammad Ali or Joe Frazier we are two little black boys who came up to be the biggest drones in the whole world and don't think because I made I'm gonna tell you to go box no get your brains together boxed exercises but get your brains together get educated and get a trade because you might not make it as too much risk involved No that's the best thing to tell them they come to me all the time sure I want to be a boxer can I train Johnson no can you read you can't Halloween you're right no I'm luck you know a lot of kids will be influenced by hearing you say this tonight you tell me truth what about the people though don't like boxing educator don't box look I ain't makes it how can you justify boxing as a support to those people who say it's not a sport but it's hateful hateful yeah well it's your esta pista action I'll tell you this it's immoral number one when the blacks are dominating when marsan was fighting it wasn't so much protest when Jean tune is 5 I don't see no let me tell you no I'm telling you I'm telling you I'll give us what boxing you know let me let me tell you let me tell you let me tell you I don't hear the argument nowhere well let me tell you it's the action that makes it it's the purpose that makes a thing right or wrong not the action I can kill him and kill you the same judge can say I'm right for killing him wrong for killing you while I kill him I called him my lesson my wife I don't get a day in jail I killed you because even arguing over who's gonna win this fight both of the actions was killing but what determines them right or wrong is the purpose my purpose is not to kill when I'm going to ready our purpose is not to kill it's not a moral as long as our purpose is not immoral what kind of sport is it can it be what kind of sports right where a guy goes in a ring and guess it Joe Brooke watch your hand watch your handlin what kind of sport is this when a guy get into the damn car in your country and go around a damn track and hit a pole any burn-off get on those four we don't have nothing over in Norway but the job and few of us can't get nothing unless we can box and then you want to run that out when you go to England stop some of your sports well I don't see no black folks off that 119 million mouths I gotta ask you this Joe tells me there's a rumor that Ella Fitzgerald let's see hits high C can fracture your jaw he's shined the same just change the seven star top of some food is he's going to be right back we'll be right back my apologies to Larry Merchant backstage we ran out of time thank you Michael you're obviously two great athletes and I want to see I hope to be there Monday no well it's just obvious and that's why I said it and thank you both for being here we'll see you you

Channel: MuhammadAli_GOAT

Views: 274,723

Rating: 4.8118196 out of 5

Keywords:

Id: UWtnAGWF2lw

Length: 22min 29sec (1349 seconds)

Published: Sun Mar 27 2016