Ranking the Best HAND CANNONS in a Tier List 140 RPM (The Final Shape)

no weapon is as iconic as the hand Cannon when it comes to Destiny it is the preferred weapon for most PVP players and they have pretty much always been viable if not meta for most of Destiny's life cycle I made a tier list over a year ago but there are several new additions to the game as well as major balancing changes that have happened since then so today we are going to rank every single nons Sunset 140 RPM hand cannon in the game quick thing before we start don't stress where they are ranked amongst each other individually like I I always get a ton of comments how dare you rank this below that and then I look at the list and they're two apart from each other so look at them more so as whole tiers basically all the weapons in the tier I think separate themselves from the tier below it and so on so anyway as you know we always start off with our patent pending dog water tier first off we have a weapon that pains me to put here because I like this one it it's so bad but I swear it slaps like this is my my cope weapon you know we all have one but unfortunately mine is going to kick off our dog water tier and it is the finite impactor from Iron Banner uh 36 base range low stability low handling and bad perks low aim assist it it's just it's got nothing I guess pretty average aim assist it can be worse um even the perks are not great iron reach is really the only way to up your range and it gives you 20 range and minus 30 stability like why uh slid shock gives you 20 range and 20 stability it's not even close I don't know this thing needs to get keep away slid shot or something to make it usable but until then it's just it's awful so it's going to kick off our dog water tier it fits right along this is a nice home for it okay next we have the annual skate now I believe you got this from The Crucible and the only issue with this is that it it's just the the stats are not there right 40 range isn't great stability not great handling not great a assist pretty low at 75 it overall it basically just it's not good at anything all it really has going for it is it does have slid shot opening shot isn't bad either I mean slid shot is god tier on a hand cannon that's going to be I think the best perk in the game I'm going to say overall now especially after explosive payload has been nerfed I think FL what you want so it does have that going for it um I do have the god roll for this actually on my own account it it's just I have a slide shot opening shot it's just not very good it it's just been power crept I mean it's not even that it's never been great so just we have some god tier hand cannons nowadays so this just doesn't fit in so it's down here in the dog water tier next up is the crisis inverted this was also grabbed from The Crucible uh you can still get this one I don't know why you'd want to uh first of all you can see there are about a thousand perks so good luck getting the ones that you want as far as which ones are best on this probably in the First Column you would want rapid hit or moving Target I don't really know what else you'd go for it doesn't look like there's anything else too useful um and then you'd probably want opening shot or maybe EAP I guess I don't know they're all pretty mid it doesn't really have much going for it Rangefinder got nerfed so that's honestly a big issue with this list compared to my old one is Rangefinder used to be god tier so uh big mixup a lot of guns only had Rangefinder going for it this is kind of one of them so yeah not a very good perk sele selection stats are okay I guess not great nothing to really carry it no perks pretty average stats it's going to be down here in the dog water tier unfortunately the main issue with this gun actually isn't even that the the main issue is the like muzzle flash when you shoot this there's just lightning effects all over your screen it's very difficult to see I I don't know I I just don't like this gun it's going to be in the dog water tier okay now we have waking vigil in the dreaming City I used to love this gun back in the day but this is one of those that just needs to have its stats updated I I believe this was one of those 150 RPMs that just got changed to 140 but the stats weren't aren't really adjusted for that most of the hand canons have so it's just sort of stuck in a weird spot where it stats don't really uh line up to its frame basically it has the old 150 stats I believe because 37 range is pretty rough at base I will say it does have extremely high handling and actually a decent origin trait on the newer ones it pretty much maxes out your handling it just it does not have any good perks though is the problem it only has 37 range like I said which is awful and the best perks here are really I mean what you got rapid hit or perpetual motion and then opening shot I mean we keep seeing all this like opening shot on the bottom ones and when that's like your best perk that and Rapid hit it it kind of says something right opening shot is good don't get me wrong but on a hand Cannon it it's not it's not as good as it is on like a shotgun or a sniper or something it can be pretty good but when it's your best perk that kind of says something so yeah um waking vigil is going to be down here sort of in the upper dog water tier so still not great ancient gospel is up next you get this from the garden of Salvation and I have to say I unfortunately don't have too many Clips with this I only have like some random gameplay from using it back a while ago but I was able to test it out on someone's account uh it does get slid shot which is pretty nice I would say you probably want slid shot Rangefinder I mean Rangefinder isn't what it used to be but it's I mean like there's four perks here as you can see so there's not really much to choose from I would say kill clip is actually kind of okay but if you're running slid shot which you should be I don't know slideshot and kill clip don't really go together that well cuz you're going to be reloading uh but overall it's not terrible I mean it feels okay to use actually it's just pretty average across the board it doesn't have very good aim assist at 74 we have some that get to like base 90 I believe so it just shows how uh low it is in that category as well it just doesn't have a whole lot going for it as all of these do I'm going to keep saying that but it's just how it is down here there's it just needs more perks this one really needs to get the raid like revamped like Last Wish did something we need something here because this these four perks in each thing is just not it so yeah it's going to be sort of in the upper dog water tier all right and now we have our first potentially hot take here in the Z Bane this one is both craftable and it can be Adept as well so you can have enhanced perks and or Adept mods as well now on paper this should probably be higher just because of that I'm going to be honest though in practice this gun I I hate it I do not like this gun at all I think it feels horrible to use I love it in PVE don't get me wrong this is awesome in PVE but in PvP man this I did noty enjoy using it this was one of the hardest weapons for me to get the uh clips for I just I haed every second using this thing it feels awful it shoots awful I don't know what it is it only has 77 aim assist I guess the stability is okay like nothing's like terrible on it but I had a rough time I did not enjoy this I I was using explosive payload and eye of the storm I mean those are both okay perks they're not god tier anymore but they're they're okay it should be good on paper so yeah if you wanted to bump this up I could see that but for me in my tier list I do not think this is very good honestly you shouldn't be using any of the guns down here but yeah I I did not enjoy using this I had it a little higher in like my initial outline and then I started using it and like it was rough um I will say the origin trade's kind of nice you do sort of like get some extra ammo um so I mean there's that that's about the best thing it's got going for it I think if you're not using explosive payload I guess could use opening shot but I think eye of the storm is really all it's got going for it in this last column so yeah this is going to be our very top of the dog water tier okay now we get into the C tier and these are all decent guns this is a pretty big step up from the last few honestly we have several adepts in here and some craftable weapons as well like these are solid for the most part so C tier we're going to kick off with the canata 57 canata um the role you want is probably eye of the storm and moving targets you could use Rapid hit moving Target as well other than that I mean you got opening shot obviously you used to run Rangefinder but that's been nerfed this thing actually feels pretty good to use I think it's cuz it has 82 aim assist um and decent stability 51 I mean not the best pretty average I guess but combined with the aim assist it seems pretty solid um I will say I I it's definitely outclassed in the energy slot I think this was very popular when it came out and it's kind of just because all we had at the time really was paland Drome but we have a lot more options since then so I'm going be honest you're never going to run into someone really using this it's just I mean it's in the C tier for a reason so yeah it's going to kick off our C tier it's going to be at the very bottom unfortunately but yeah canata 57 okay next up and I was trying to put this higher up but I can't really justify it so here we have the dire Prim promise this used to be the goats but Power creep is crazy it has been power crept so hard it just does not stack up to the sandbox anymore I mean it it kind of makes sense if you look at all the ones that are going to be going above it uh most of these were not in the game when this was like meta and dominating the scene right it just shows how much power creep has happened since then uh it has high aim assist but essentially it has no perks the aim assist is good at 83 that's pretty solid ID which used to be like insane but now it's we have several like that so 83 a assist pretty solid but basically range finder has been nuked so I mean it's still okay but it's not what it used to be and then you have opening shot or snapshot and it it's just that's it like we have guns with slid shot explosive payload keep away stuff like we have all sorts of weapons now and this just it just doesn't stack up it's been power crept I hate to say it but uh the one thing that I don't like on it is the sights I don't like it's it just feels so chunky like you just aim down the sight it's just like you're holding a brick or something I don't know I've never really liked it so I'm okay that it's not used anymore yeah a lot of people put a lot of kills on this this used to be like the best hand canon in the game at one point pretty much so yeah it is Fallen pretty far it is now in our C tier next up is one that I don't really like I personally do not enjoy this gun very much I'm not a DFA enjoyer uh I will say it's probably because I don't have a very good role but I I have used one before I used someone else's account last time I made the video it was okay I mean it it has some okay perks the only issue is it's so hard to farm when it was out like most people don't have a very good one anyway but I would say you want perpetual motion or fragile Focus both are decent perks and I guess you want opening shot that's really all it has going for it over here uh I mean there's time payload but I think time payload is actually kind of a bad perk it it sort of lowers your ttk or raises your ttk I guess um yeah I wouldn't really mess with time payload that's the one that I have so I was using that it's not good but I will say opening shots okay and fragile Focus or perpetual motion I like perpetual motion that' probably be my recommendation uh but yeah it is adept you do get ad depth mods so that kind of puts it up above some of the other weapons but overall it's just again again the these these perks or these weapons down here are mostly missing some perks uh like these stats aren't terrible they're actually okay but just there's no perks so it's going to be in the C tier next is the Judgment which kind of has the opposite problem of the DFA it has very good perks but lower stats stability and handling aren't great for this tier but you do get slid shot as well as eye of the storm or opening shot it also has the crossing over trait that gives it extra range in handling very solid um and it's now stasis so I don't have a stasis one but um I do have like a really good roll on the old one so I was testing that out uh I would like to try one with this crossing over tra I know it's good but uh yeah I just don't have I have one with it but I don't have the same role I have a good slides shot opening shot one uh I have the storm is good too but I think I prefer opening shot with slides shot sort of gives you like some crazy like your first bullet is hitting almost every time so yeah I like that combo um overall it's just very solid it has very good perks it's just missing out on those stats with like pretty average range and stability a lot of the weapons in this tier are higher in both those categories the aim assist is okay at 75 not bad um but yeah really really good perks for the most part just doesn't have the stats okay next up and this is one of my controversial ones because I really like this gun and I would probably move it up I put it down cuz it's hard for me to justify it but like I think this thing is actually pretty good I was when I was testing it out for this video specifically I was having some really good games like I didn't even feel like I was handicapping myself like with the ones below this like some of these were rough for me to get clips for I'm not going to lie I was I was in the trenches but this one was actually very easy it took me like one game maybe um yeah very good you want to run keep away and eye of the storm for PVP I will say it I was using it with the harmonic resonance with conditional and then a raid heavy weapon this just Stacks the handling and the reload it makes it feel really good to shoot uh but if you don't want to do that you can also run this the the Rockets the Rockets are good too it has two very good origin traits but yeah when you crank up like keep away and everything and this like the stats actually get pretty Juiced like you have 70 handling 90 reload 52 range not bad and I mean when you get I have the storm proced like your handling is at 100 so yeah very solid overall um I would probably bump this up if it was just my like preference but I mean I don't know I guess I could but it's going to be at the very top of our C tier okay now we are in the B tier these I feel are actually not bad to use and they are really just missing some of the sort of top tier perks we're starting with kept Confidence from Season of the Witch this one is actually really fun to use and honestly feels great this is one of my favorite guns to just use for fun it's really good the range isn't great for this tier and the perk pool is a bit lacking I like to use Quick Draw in eye of the storm um but it's just it's missing those top tier perks but I will say this feels very clean to shoot as far as just like how the guns feel to shoot this one is definitely up there like I don't know what it is uh maybe it's the recoil direction or like the pattern or whatever I don't know but this one is actually really clean really nice to use um it was very easy for me to get the clips for this too so yeah I am going to put it in the B tier sort of towards the bottom just cuz it's missing some perks but I do really like this gun all right now we have the nation of beasts so I I hate this gun I used to like it but I actually hate it I don't know what it is I think it's awful if I was just going how I felt about the gun this would be in its own tier like below the dog water this is like like pond water right this is I I hate this gun so I guess what you want well you definitely want keepo and then I don't know I guess you want explosive payload there's just nothing else really here you can maybe do golden Tri I don't know like you basically got to do keep away and explosive payload it's just I don't know if it's explosive payload or the 71 aim assist something with this I had a hard time using it I despised this gun but I can't really justify knocking it all the way down it does like on paper it should be pretty good I think it might be better on M andk potentially uh maybe it's just bad on controller I don't really know it does have kind of low aim assist at 71 a lot of the other guns are like in the 80s or 90s so that's probably what it is but yeah on paper should be very good you can enhance both of these it's craftable so you can get a god roll something like I don't know probably like this is what you'd want or maybe stability range something like that is basically what you'd want for a god roll um it it it's not bad I I just I don't like it but I would say like mid to low B tier is pretty fair so that's where I have it here um it it does have decent perks I think the EP Nerf kind of hurted a bit but yeah B tier okay now we have the exalted truth from Trials of Osiris so I actually really like this gun I think it is pretty slept on as far as like how how strong a gun is compared to how much use it gets I will say the rangefinder Nerf hurt it pretty bad because in that First Column there's just not much else for it I guess killing wind is what you want in that First Column which this is the role I have I have killing wind I have the storm which I would say is probably the god roll there's not really much else you can get in here maybe Encore that's about the only other decent one I really don't know why they didn't give this better perks that's kind of what's holding it back but I mean killing wind is okay it's kind of mid though it's not ideal but it has good stats like as you can see here we're sitting at like pretty good stats overall it's just without the top tier perks it's going to be here sort of in the mid to high B tier all right next we have an OG the midnight coup now this gets now this gets enhanced perks I believe and it also has some solid options you can get uh moving Target and you can get explosive payload you can get opening shot You Can Get Zen moment there's lots of good perks on this and they are all enhanceable so what should you go for well honestly I'm not a big fan of explosive payload these days I don't know what it is it used to be god tier but I think that kind of Nerf is just um I don't know it seems like it it's cut the range down a bit it's definitely not as good as it used to be I'll still use explosive payload I like it better on some than others I will say if I was going to like enhance one I would go for moving Target Zen moment um I'd say that's probably what I would want that that's a pretty solid role right there both really good perks the one I have is explosive payload Zen moment but I do have a moving Target opening shot one I messed with that a bit too this gun is very solid overall it has 90 aim assists as you can see like some of the other ones we're looking at were like in the 70s so 90 is pretty good like this is a high uh aim assist only issue is the range is at 40 That's not ideal so it's okay um but you'd really want like a range boosting perk um overall not bad it has pretty good handling it's 60 pretty solid aim assist at 90 it's like one of the highest almost if not the highest so yeah overall it's going to be at the top of our B tier all right and next we're going to cap off the highest weapon in our B tier and it is the Lumina now this is our first exotic on the list and Exotics are hard to rank I feel like because how do you account for your gun healing someone does that just make it s tier do the stats or the gun even matter because other guns can't do that um I think the thing with Lumina is that it requires kills then you can heal and buff so that kind of holds it back a bit and there's just better Exotics out there it does take up the Exotic slot um like I want to live in a world where running Lumina is worth it but we just don't so aside from that there is some like unique builds and some fun stuff you can do it but I will say the gun itself is actually pretty good it it is not a bad gun the stats are decent as you can see we got 63 range and uh 60 stability pretty high handling and decent aim assist at 88 so it it is decent like this is a solid gun it even if you don't even do any of the healing nonsense you just use it as a weapon it is pretty good I will say I always end up trying to hipfire someone and just healing the enemy even like just shooting the stupid healing bolts at them but obvious viously that's a skill issue uh but yeah it's a solid gun I will say I I think if you're going to run it you need to run like the Warlock like boots of assembler or something like you kind of got to build around it otherwise you're not going to get much use from it but it does function as a gun itself so I am going to put it at the very top of our B tier okay now we are in the a tier now we got some big dogs these are actually guns that I would use like unironically so these are good weapons don't get me wrong the B weapons are good too but you'll never hear me load into a game like oh these guys look sweaty let me grab my Lumina no uh these guns are all very good you will see me using these all the time and we're going to kick it off with the Adept fatebringer From the Vault of Glass raid one of the OG hand cannons from Destiny 1 now this used to be a lot higher I actually used to have this as like number one overall at one point besides Exotics because explosive payload used to be broken when I made the last list like rose wasn't even out so I think this was probably at the top because uh explosive payload is was insane back then but it is nerfed so it is not as good as it was but I would say you want something like this as the god roll which is basically what I have I I basically have this exact role I have a very good roll as you can see with this you're getting up to like some extremely high levels of um while handling when I have the storm is pro but you get some very good range you get explosive payload you have very high stability you can also you you can bump the stats even more like you you get an Adept mod so you could have 83 range if you want like I believe the one I have has 86 range this is the rooll I have is very good this gun is super slept on you'll never see anyone using it I mean now you have rows so it makes sense but back in the day this thing was actually pretty solid like I it was super slept on I had it at number one but it's been power crept a bit and nerfed explosive payload Nerf I mean it cut the range in a little bit and I think it's just it's just not the same it it's just been power crept and nerfed a bit so it's going to be still in our a tier just towards the bottom all right now we have a fan favorite the spare rations I'm just going to get the elephant in the room out of the way 36 range 36 base range look at that why did they do this to us I don't know this was another one of those 150s I believe that needs to get it stats scaled a little bit I could be wrong but but I I wasn't playing as much back then but I do believe this was a 150 um yeah the only the only thing that saves this is it gets slid shot so I prefer slides shot opening shot um if you're not using that I don't even know I guess I guess uh swash could be good but you kind of that's something you kind of got to build into so yeah I use slid shot opening um the rule I have is this right here very solid I do really like this gun obviously the range is lacking but when you proc slide shot and opening shot you're yeah you're at 100 so for the first bullet basically you're at 100 and then it kind of I don't know it gets some funky range because sometimes you're going to be hitting and then the other bullets are going to fall off so it's a little weird but the thing that is so good about this is just the feel and The Recoil and the sights like the sights are so clean that's why everyone loves this gun uh the stability is very good I know that doesn't matter as much on M andk but you'll hear me mention it as a controller player stability solid when you have slid shot on I mean it bumps it to 94 like it's just very good the sights are super clean 100 recoil Direction it more so comes down to it's like one of the best feeling guns of all time so that's why it's going to be up here I will say if it didn't have slid shot it would be like no it it it it would be needing an application to Burger King it's it's not yeah not very good without that but since it does get slid shot god tier perk it kind of saves it it's going to be in our lower a tier all right next up we have another fan favorite and one of my favorites we have the is Luna now the issue with the is Luna is that Rangefinder has been nerfed and you no longer uh have a good perk in this column basically the one everyone's going to have a range find like if you have one of these in your Vault it's chances are it's going to have rang binder on it so I wouldn't really go farm for another one I don't think it's really worth it but that's only issue is Rangefinder has been hit pretty hard so H I guess you'd want perpetual motion moving Target or something like that Rangefinder is still okay I just use Rangefinder um it's just a solid gun as you can see we have 85 aim assist and with moving Target that puts you at 955 a assist so you put a targeting Mod on your helmet you're rocking 100 a assist pretty easily yeah just very good overall gun um it just feels good to use it has high stability high aim assist decent range like at least on a controller this gun is very good this is the one I would use in all my attys back when those were like more of a thing not that I'd win or anything but I would always use this it felt very good definitely can compete at the highest level it's just a very good hand Canon overall so it's going to be in our mid a tier okay now we have the one that pains me the most because this is my favorite hand Cannon or at least the one that I have the most kills with all time it's not even particularly close that is the paland Drome now the problem with the paland Drome is it it just has no perks now it it's been nerfed like all its perks have been nerfed or reworked or changed it's basically got nothing it it has one perk basically and it's quick draw like that's it that's the only thing that even does something Rangefinder used to be very good but it's nerfed high impact reserves used to be very good but it doesn't kill anymore you used to be able to hit two head shot and one body shot and like I was saying this was the god roll for like way back since always but you can't do that anymore they have to be like like too resilience for it to happen so if you just run into some random Hunter it'll happen but it it's just not worth running there there's no perk in this column that's even worth it like I I don't even know what you would use um I guess Rangefinder but it's just I mean even Quick Draw is not really ideal anymore I mean I'm big on Quick Draw but we have guns with slid shot and stuff now so I mean it's just been it's just been nerfed it it hurts it hurts I'm not going to lie but yeah you want something like this I guess I I don't know uh you can't really Farm it so it's kind of just whatever you got the ones that everyone has are going to have Rangefinder on it unfortunately so overall it's just has monster stats like the stats are just so good it's still a good weapon it doesn't even need perks to compete I mean realistically if you look at the stats you'd have something like like this I mean you're at 85 range without anything so I mean it's obviously a very good gun the stats carry it it's still going to be in our High um a tier even though it has no perks so yeah paland Drome still very good all right now we are in the S tier these are the best guns in the game the best 140 hand cannons in the game I should say uh and apparently we're going to start with the hot take I guess because I just saw like Walla put a video where he hates this gun I mean to be fair hating it is one thing but it being bad is another and actually if you watch the video he was just like frying everyone with it I mean he fries everyone always but like I'm like okay well he can hate it but he's killing everyone with it so I don't know maybe it's a controller versus m andk thing but I think this gun is god tier so we have it in our s tier and that's because it gets Zen moment now Zen moment needs to be on more hand cannons I maybe at least for controller players but like it is so good just not being able to Flinch or or like just the everything you get like Flinch resistance you get like less recoil and less like reticle bounce uh it's just so good I think it's probably up there with slides shot for the best two weapons uh what best two perks on hand cannons so yeah Zen moment and then I I went with eye of the storm and you can enhance both of these this is craftable so you can get a god roll you can get something like this um is probably solid roll here you get very good range you get very good stability and um you can you can get more aim assist too I I don't know I I think 75 is is okay it's not great but um definitely run some targeting mods I guess you could run like opening shot if you really really want to but I think Zen moment is just goated so yeah Zen moment and then you want eye of the storm or snapshot both are solid you can enhance both of them I don't know maybe it's a controller thing maybe it's bad on M andk I don't know but I think overall it's going to it fits nicely to kick off our s tier now we have my favorite gun in the game which is the thorn now we all know how good Thorn is it's been in the game since Destiny 1 so really don't need to mention much about it except for the fact that it now has a catalyst which is solid uh typically I would have this higher than some of the next few but with the like kind of Health changes and like Precision damage body shot damage Thorn just doesn't do what it used to do it used to be able to like hit body shots and twap people and stuff it it just it just doesn't really do that anymore the health changes and the sort of body shot kind of changes that but it doesn't even matter though it's still very good it's very good at like delaying revives you get the perk rolling you get extra handling you get extra range a little bit of stability it's just very good um once you get this perk going is this is the most fun gun to me because it promotes like like a healthy play style for the game in my opinion it promotes like being active running to running around picking up the perk getting kills getting in gunfights picking up the perk versus I mean think of something like red death with the turret like you sit there and like I don't think that's very healthy for the game I think Thorn is like what more like how guns should be like you're rewarded for going to do something and it gets you moving around like I don't know I think Thorn is a great gun it's designed perfectly so I think it fits here in sort of our mid s tier all right now we have the iconic Ace of Spades now we all know how Ace of Spades works you get that kill you get Six Bullets from momento Mory basically it turns it into like a 120 hand Cannon so you're doing like 120 damage at 140 RPM so it's pretty crazy you hit for like 104 or something on a head shot I don't remember uh but yeah very very solid um the only issue with it is it did get nerfed they this used to be like the best gun in the game by far the stats are just crazy as you can tell uh but it it's just they nerfed sort of the momentto Mori it's very weird how it works now like you kind of do less damage with it proed if the range falls off I don't know they they mess with it and it's kind of annoying but honestly you don't even need Mory for it to be a good gun like the stat it has 85 range so it it's just solid all around it doesn't even need it it has like 10 perks like you have momentum Mory then you have the thing where your like radar is always on and then you have Firefly like it has like five perks so it's just a very good gun I feel like it flinches harder than other hand cans I think it might be High Caliber I don't know but I can always tell when I'm getting shot by an ace because my screen is just shaking so I don't know Ace is cracked we all know this so it's going to be sort of in our mid to high s tier all right all right the next few were very hard for me to sort of pick the order of them but I've decided to put Rose next we all know how good rose is everyone uses it you see it everywhere if you load into a game chances are at least one person is going to have rose on even in this kasta of hell that we're currently in uh but yeah I will say you will always find a roseen Lobby and it's for a good reason this thing is just so good it has these grips too so it has like an extra perk it's basically like having adep mods uh you can also now you can enhance these so these are enhanceable uh very solid gun it's just I mean I wish they did the most guns that they brought back what they did to Rose right like this thing has the best perks in the game like the moving Target is insane ecap is pretty good as well slides shot is god tier I mean even perpet like perpetual motion is like the fifth best perk here and on some of those other guns like DFA or something this was like the best perk it had and this is like the fifth best perk in this column uh even Quick Draw is good I mean rapid hit same thing some of that was like the best perk some of the other guns had and it's like the worst option here almost so yeah everything every single one of these perks is good like Rose had Rangefinder Rangefinder was God tier they nerfed it then they had EP EP was God tier they nerfed it now now it still has opening shot and snapshot and eye of the storm um I I don't even know you can really run anything you get slid shot and then whatever gets here like you're good even vorpal good I wouldn't run it in like normal Crucible but like if you scrim and stuff you you know how vortal works you just like twap all the golden guns it's kind of dirty but yeah um basically you can get anything here I've been running snapshot I actually really like it it feels pretty nice I will say opening shot seems to be what a lot of other people prefer uh if you like explosive payload definitely use this I have this roll let me see here I have this here very good roll I got super lucky I think I have the best grip too I don't know I have like a I have a handling yeah I have this grip I think um I don't know they're they're all good honestly you get extra stats just for having this so really any of the grips are good most people I think like this one I think the one you don't want is heavy grip um because you lose 10 handling I don't know I guess it doesn't really matter I don't know which one's best probably depends controller versus m andk whatever um yeah obviously when you get rain uh slid shot going the stats yeah 95 range 992 stability I will say it has like pretty average aim assist 85 is okay it's not great a lot of the ones up here are in the '90s or like close to that but yeah rose rose is cracked we all know how good it is so it is going to be in our High s tier okay these last two I definitely went back and forth between the two and maybe controller versus m andk could make the difference but I have Hawk Moon here so I have this Above the Rest because I mean k right like I I don't even need to explain really it can just onot people straight up and it can also twap people and I mean even if you don't even mess with all the like final bullet stuff all that you just ignore it just the gun itself is very good um it has 93 aim assist and it it also gets moving Target so you have moving Target you're 100 aim assist out the gate I guess you don't technically even need that if you run like a helmet mod but um as you can see oh you also get a grip let me don't let me forget that I don't know which one you'd want here um I guess probably handling or whatever you want uh just pick one they're all pretty decent um so yeah you get a grip and then like as the the perks go up like your um your range also goes up like it it it's cracked if you have this on yeah there we go as you can see as you start to build these so like by the time you're at like like what is this this is four you're already at like 80 range like look at these stats dude like this is insane 100 a assist 80 reload 96 handling 75 stability like this is just crazy that the thing just ramps up as you start to hit head shot so you really even if you ignore like the final bullet like just look at these stats like this is crazy I don't know I I could probably put this at number one it's going to be tied with we know what the last one is but they're going to be tied um for me basically but I do have it in the very high s tier we all know what HW Moon does it it's cracked so now we have the Luna's house so we all knew that this was going to be up here at least maybe it's better on controller I've heard I don't know I don't play M andk but you basically you want something like this maybe Precision instrument or you want mag how uh I like opening shot but I don't know it's really up to you whatever you want here there's so many good options slides shot is a given and then you can go with magnificent how opening shot Precision instrument those are probably going to be what you want now ultimately what made me put this over Hawk moon at least as a controller player is that this is the only hand cannon in the game that as a controller player that I would even dare to shoot in the air like I I don't like after the AE changes especially I don't even attempt to shoot in the air it it's a waste of time on controller maybe I'm just bad maybe it's a skill issue but like as someone who's played as much as I have and used hand cannons as much as I have and like have gotten to a certain level I cannot hit people when I'm in the air like it it just doesn't happen but on Luna's H it's actually pretty easy like I'm actually so surprised when I jump and the bullets actually go like where I'm aiming I don't know that's ultimately what made me put this over uh HW moon was just the fact that you can actually shoot it in the air I mean the stats are crazy too you can tell when slide shots up you're you're going like 83 range 100 stability uh the aim assist is okay at 80 again it's not great it's a little low for like the S tier but doesn't even matter uh there's no recoil like it has that weird frame you know it it doesn't the Precision frame it doesn't kick like the other ones I don't know some people don't like it but really you just got to get used to it I didn't like it at first but this thing is nuts like at least as a controller player I just hit some three tap like I could just chain three tap after three tap after three tap I I don't know it just doesn't kick it's so easy so yeah ultimately it was a tie for me between this and HW Moon and then I really thought about it and I was like you know just the fact that you can jump in the air and three tap someone with this just sort of put it over the top for me but yeah honestly any of the S tier if you wanted to move them however you prefer I mean they're they're all great so it doesn't really matter but yeah this gun is just a monster especially I didn't even talk about like the perk once you start getting the stacks and you can just chain it to be like more forgiving on the kills Precision instrument is very good it sort of helps with the overshields I'm going to test this out some more against like this kastav turret nonsense we got going on maybe it'll be good against the turrets I don't know we're I'm still testing that but yeah it has lots of good options this is the main roll I use you can enhance it so I use slid shot opening shot but I'm going to give this Precision instrument another go here and see if it can kind of help counter the turrets I will say I didn't mention it during Hawk moon but Hawk Moon kind of counters those turrets right now too so yeah both of these two options are very good for that and I I think they're actually pretty decent in today's meta so that's going to do it that is my entire tier list let me know if I forgot a gun first of all I probably did it's actually a lot harder than you think to like get all these guns on here I will say like I feel like I always forget one or almost forget one so first let me know if I forgot a gun uh nons Sunset if it was sunset at one point even though it's not a thing anymore I I don't want to include it because I probably don't have it and most people don't have it so yeah non Sunset let me know and also let me know what you would change obviously this is my preference this is like a mixture of my preference and then like trying to be objective as well like it's pretty objectively clear that Luna Hal and Hawk moon are very good guns now if you wanted to move them around like that that's where it sort of comes in so yeah let me know what you think what you would change but as always I'm awake and I'll see you guys next time again [Music]

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Keywords: Destiny2, Crucible, PvP, Speaker’s Sight

Id: _DAmxlWnkQE

Length: 42min 9sec (2529 seconds)

Published: Tue Jun 25 2024