Piper Cherokee 235 - Amazing Useful Load

I'm Tom and this is my 1964 Piper Cherokee 2:35 the Cherokee 235 was built from 1964 with a few name changes up until 1977 what really sets the 2:35 apart from other Cherokees its its useful load it can carry almost 1500 pounds of useful load that's full fuel for passengers and 200 pounds of bags Thomas been great attention to detail updating and modernizing his aircraft it has new radios and electronic displays completely eliminated iris Copic system I featured his tomahawk in an earlier video and he has a few other toys at his hangar as well as airplanes have been featured in magazines and actually want an award at Oshkosh so let's talk to Tom and go fly his amazing airplane I bought this airplane in 2000 technically in 2012 previous owner had owned it for 27 years and he put the paint and the interior and it did a real nice job my wife just happened to casually mentioned in her wisdom that she thought we probably needed a fourth-place airplane because going back and forth she's a big quilter and there's a lot of selling and she needed more room for some of her sewing equipment and so wisely I agreed with her that we probably did be the fourth place airplane that could carry a lot this airplane the 235 is noted for its carrying capability uh has a max gross weight of two thousand eight hundred and fifty pounds but it has a payload carrying capability of over 1,200 pounds so you know when you look at an airplane like that they can carry that much weight even though it's not the most efficient you can put four people in baggage and still put on almost five hours worth of fuel and go somewhere and still be perfectly legal and be under the gross weight and it airplane flies as if nobody was in it because it's still even at that heavy weight and still flies real nice yeah the 180s and and 140s or 160s like you said those airplanes typically will have a 700 pound payload maybe 800 pounds on 180 horse but so this is you know 400 pounds more than those airplanes which is pretty significant and an airframe this size this airplane was built and designed and built in 1964 once they've got this airplane put together they realized that this wing was so impressive it has four fuel tanks and can carry much more weight than it was originally certified they actually used this wing for the 6 passenger cherokee 6 it's the exact same wing and that airplane grosses out about 600 pounds more than this airplane this airplane once it has a maximum gross weight of two thousand eight hundred fifty pounds carries 84 gallons of fuel and typically on an average flight bar in 15 and a half gallons an hour let you cruise with 140 plus knots my flight plans for 140 in reality its 145 sometimes 100 and almost 150 if I'm light and it's nice and cool which is a great speed over the standard 235 because this one has the modifications that we talked about the wheel pants the wing fill it's some nice improvements well the most current thing that I've had done I installed a factory rebuilt a lycoming engine just has 15 hours on it since I installed it when I went through I put new baffling powder coated to baffle II all new hoses all new electrical cables the Boggart electrical cables powder coated the exhaust system that has a new heater a new muffler I put a new alternator on it the air power alternator 70 amp alternator going through and basically replaced all the hoses and I'm currently working on tightening up all the baffling to close up all the leaks so we can control the head temperatures a little bit better unfortunately the other engine that I had that had been overhauled in 2002 started making metal some of the bearings were going bad after about 700 hours after the overhaul so don't want to take any chances making metal uh means that the internal components in the in the engine are the bearings and rings and things like that begin breaking and chipping and as a result that leads to a failure of gears or pistons or bearings and that's what I had I had a couple of bearings that had gone bad and failed I found it during my normal of engine oil change I noticed that the color the oil was a little bit different so I started investigating it and I was having some oil pressure problems and I talked to us and for instant on the airport we just kept working with it and finally we pulled the case drain and when we pull the case tray in the bottom part of the engine we found some pieces of metal roughly the size of a pencil eraser and that means that the engines no good so that's why we had to pull the engine that engine was new with the airplane it actually had about 3000 hours total time on it this engine is new from the factory so now it only has 15 hours on after doing some research I found out that in my opinion the best deal out there is a factory rebuilt engine basically you send them your old engine and they throw it in the trash and give you an engine that goes down the new assembly line but this is called a rebuilt so every part that goes on this engine in theory could be used but in practice every part that goes down there is really new there's only a couple of components that were reused on this engine yeah so you get a 2-year warranty 500 hour warranty so if anything goes wrong parts and labor are picked up by the factory that wouldn't necessarily be the case had I got it rebuilt locally so anyway it's a much better deal I think I have a brand new logbook that goes along with the engine it shows that it is essentially a new engine the only difference between the new engine by the factory and a factory rebuild is about $20,000 so that's why I decided to go with this engine which is a factory rebuilt engine with the help of a friend of mine Jimmy and Steve friends around the neighborhood here we've added a lot of modifications to the engine to the airplane one of the things that we added was a the wheel pants down here these are the modern type piper wheel pants that enhances a speed gives a little bit couple more knots another thing that we added on this early model the 64 models did not have the third window and going back to the tail the extended perf in there is like the later models the early ones were cut off a little short so this one has an extended vertical fin right here in LED light one on each wingtip my friends say I look just like a 737 coming into land when everything's lit up because I've got to wing lights here and then a weak light on the nose and they're LED so it greatly reduces the electrical load it is required on the aircraft put the strobe light kit on it and also we put the wing root ferret fairings right here these are a speed enhancement from Lopresti speed they're a wing root fill it to fill in this area right here well the whole kit from Lopresti which was basically the wheel pants the fill it and then we also part of the kit we added a aileron flap and stabilizer gap Coq and with that whole kit in there we've probably picked up pretty close to about 15 knots it's pretty nice most Cherokee 235 cruise about a hundred and twenty five hundred twenty-eight knots and with this one I'm pretty typically will do about a hundred and forty three I basically gutted the entire instrument panel well I had it done my friend of mine Jimmy on the field he did some of the electrical work Steve who was a previous owner did some electrical work and then farmed out most of it to avionics first at the Red Bird Airport they did a great job I put in a I had them put in a Aspen 2000 system which is basically a dual a hearth system and in addition to that he rewired the entire airplane back behind the panel got rid of all the old 1964 wiring put all new wiring harnesses in put the upgraded ATSB so we're 2020 compliant we can see traffic coming in and out redid all the throttles and the prop cables and the mixture cables all those cables were you when we did the panel also we updated the lower panel we completely rewired or avionics first completely rewired the buses and made me an avionics bus that is a electrical system just for my radios and then he split off the rest of the airplane so it has a split bus system so that I can kind of operate the radios independently of operating some other things and 2014 some friends of mine around the airport we're headed up to ash Kosh and one of my neighbors said hey ma'am I should take that thing up there and have it judged and I just finished the panel and I thought well you know sure why not so the guy who owned the airplane previous to me Steve he had owned it for twenty-seven years we got together and we flew up to Oshkosh together because he was rightly proud of his baby - it was kind of a collective effort it's the first part of it so we flew to Oshkosh and parked up there and signed up for the judging Lindsey Trophy judging and didn't think much about it I thought well I'd probably you know get a little ribbon or something or get you know fifth place or a hundredth place or something because there's so many airplanes up there and really high high quality airplanes up there so finally on the last day we come out to the airplane and as we're walking up to it the guard comes running over and says oh your airplane won your plane won it's like what do you mean so we walked around to the front of the airplane on the propeller they had the trophy announcement ribbon and you know come pick up your awards and nice placard congratulations and unfortunately we missed the dinner because this was Sunday and we didn't know that the airplane had won it's contemporary class so it was like well gee we missed the dinner last night well sure we would have been there to get the award but they were great to us they I called them up and they said ah no problem and they should be the plaque real nice plaque hard and the trophy and some other stuff so we we you know we're very proud that this airplane scored that well amongst its competition and peers and little happy we're all fueled up oiled up preflighted and I think we need to go fly and get some lunch [Music] there you go yeah all your engines start right up now good usually the first blade or two brand new engine you house knowing yeah Eagle's Nest traffic Turkey eight seven seven of whiskey fax it out for a north takeoff at Eagle's Nest any traffic today goes does [Music] I'll send buddy coming in either direction here clear right are they [Music] one thing I really like about the type of products is of over the Sesto see the no steering is real positive ya have a spring-loaded so they feel kinda wishy-washy on the ground turkey products are really hard okay line up we got the transponder off pitot heats not required today fuel pump will be on for the takeoff and in line so I'll go ahead and light everything up turn on our recognition lights and I collision strobe lights and our landing light on our nose and now we're lit up as my fridge say like a 737 all right off hey we're gonna climb out at about 100 dots and out is this a separate one or do you have a different transponder there oh yeah it'll come on all the power really oh yeah yeah one of those automatic tanks alrighty so we're all done here Eagle's Nest traffic Turkey 877 one whiskey departed monthly three five Eagles Nest traffic at Eagles Nest please uh pull out here we'll check downwind no traffic what's going on final Hey clear-rite nobody there all looks good just a little bit slight left cross with and we'll come on up doors lock flaps trimmer set bumps on everything that's good all pressure checks good ears please arrive $60 here we go little white federal office you in 230 horsepower yeah it's working good that's a nice clear day Wow oh yeah look at this well if we have 50 miles of look at you seek downtown for work yeah oh wow you can't yeah all righty I'll just print the overhead out a little bit how many take off the landings come out of your airport every day you know if we average it I think the average is only five a day yeah but you know you get a nice pretty day like this on a weekend you know we may have 50 yeah but then you know typical in a week you know a lot of people are working still so you know maybe now especially if there's any kind of weather no yeah right yeah I always know approach or anything Yeah right yeah running real nice I got yeah everything's in the green here we're running full power right now 25 25 everything still looking good that I'm still keeping a real close eye on that with only 15 hours well you know that's a it's a little bit you would even think it's the exact opposite but most engine failures happen within a few hundred hours of getting a new engine exactly yeah 200 hours is a statistic yeah postage and failures happen within 200 hours yeah you know I guess it just that you know when older engines all worn in and you know it it's you know if it had if it had a part that was gonna fail and start a failed it would appeal that's a little field already and there's a lot of guys that take their engines well past you know eighteen or fifteen hundred our tbo you get 2,500 hours if you if you take care of it yeah well you know the engine that came out of here that field that engine like I said actually had 30 100 hours on right it had had been overhauled but it was still the original crank right you know the silver has it been changed but right the case was original the crank was original I've replaced a few a cylinder heads I had it older they're not too bad I mean I think it was $900 replaced the cylinder head yeah they do about that now they're typically for a like Coleman is about $1,100 for a Dewback break yeah well these days you know you can do compression tests and everything and you can you know if you got you'll know with one cylinders not faring well and you can get that change yeah yeah you get good indications you know wall pressure changes cylinder head temperature exhaust gas changes angel inspection you know what to do the compression check now that's a dead giveaway if you have one that's flat Franco lots of lots of warning signs it or say it hey wake up smell the roses you know something about working yeah and that's what my last engine was doing it told it had been telling me for about six months that you know who stopped happy yeah and I was listening to it I finally figured out what oh so you normally cruise do this thing with 20 you about 25 25 yeah I can't I'm not a try with this new engine I've been running at full throttle for this last 15 hours yeah so I'm gonna set up about a 24 square which is about at this altitude it's about 65% power yeah that's good economical cruise yeah [Applause] and then I'll go over here start pulling back on this mixture a little bit you can see we're doing 141 not so no it's so with the speed mods that we did to this thing it it really is out grunts the other chair keys by gentle 15 knots let's see okay so here were 14 75 percent power 145 knots true pretty smartly 17.9 I've got it a little bit fat since it's still a few engine yeah typically this power said it would be 15 and a half to 16 gallons the do hundred forty five knots I could pull it back to 65 percent and probably do about 135 knots so I'm about two gallons an hour less fortunately low Christie and all the speaking of airplanes came along and decided to do something with the piper line and so they made the wheel pants and the wheel bearings is that the vertical stabilizer kit all kinds of speed kits don't end result you go 15 knots faster all the same fuel is it's pretty expensive the full kit for this airplane today I think it's probably runs about ten or twelve thousand dollars plus labor to put it put in the yeah so you probably get another two or three thousand so yeah probably fifteen thousand dollars to do the cool kid maad you know if you're gonna put it on paper and say yeah this works I don't think it will okay I'm gonna get 15 12 b 15 Val $2 yeah 15 I mean it's been how long you're gonna hold the airplane and what you're doing with it yeah that's food so yeah you're just it's just if you're just screwing around on it but if you're if you're doing if you're commuting with it or doing some like regular or long haul stuff it probably might be worth it you know yeah yeah if you doing some long trips and certainly would pay for it but yeah it almost God paying for it - it's your time you know 15 knots us sound like a lot but if you over if you're flying 300 hours a year yeah that adds up that adds probably 1520 hours yeah it'll get you there in a hurry so yeah you see here we're plot long lead ever have a visual display of our whole approach here we have a direct to display of the instrumental ports chart overlaid with an airplane and then a full HSI over here was synthetic vision so it's just what a great safe wide tool yeah lancaster traffic turkey eight seven seven one whiskey about ten miles south be landing straight in Hawk way three one plant a story all right we planted checklist here we go we're gonna turn off my fuel pump and we're gonna switch over to the left main tank because it has a boat fuel in it and I'll start slowing down I'll get the power back extra up to four rich yeah Turkey eight seven seven pump whiskey is a walk mile final in Lancaster now yeah yesterday was horrible fois yeah pretty bumpy Doughboy yeah I've just hit the 26 nozzle entered its leave removal 26 not west quarter in crosswind sounds like fun yeah turkey does a good job though it's it's a pretty good cross with airplane all righty views check down welded extras up drops coming up go pop song by the atomic re [Applause] well we arrived well done alright get some launched here in Lancaster yeah sounds great yeah hey Tom hey Bobby thank you sir hey man thanks for coming out enjoyed flying but yeah you got a great machine there oh thank you very much yeah it's a lot of fun to fly makes lots of memories hey that's good good good cross country place so we'll see you next time we fly again sometime I'm sure I'll look forward to it yeah thank you thank you we're watching well thank you for watching another episode of flying duels I would love to fly with you if you have an airplane or you have an interesting airplane or good story and want me to comply with you and do a little interview in flight I'd love to do it we're planning to do a little road trip at the end middle of march through April we're gonna get I don't know we're gonna buy some kind of travel trailer say if you got line on that let me know to buy some kind of little travel trailer not expensive we're very poor and and if we're gonna go around the country filming people in their airplanes so really afford that there's a link to my email in the show notes if you would like to do that please click the like button and subscribe and patreon.com slash flying doodles that's how we fund this whole thing we got to buy I'm actually going to buy more camera gear today because I decided I don't 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Keywords: piper cherokee, cherokee, cherokee 235, piper, flying, flight vlog, general aviation, piper cherokee 140, beechcraft, cockpit, airport, airplane, aviation, piper aircraft, aopa, travel, avionics, pilot, steveo1kinevo, private pilot, cessna, plane, boeing, avgeek, mzeroa, flying doodles, sailing doodles, piper warrior, pilot vlog, cessna 206

Id: N7YJvU53onQ

Length: 25min 26sec (1526 seconds)

Published: Sat Jan 26 2019