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866-743-8267-8667 kingdom-based call-in talk call callers in the world looking forward to speaking with you this morning as we talk about those issues and events that are significant to you relevant to you life impacting to you pastor nick is here with us again hey man how you doing good morning how are you doing all right doing all right a lot going on this week um a lot of talk about the texas abortion bill um and the supreme court's response on the other hand the supreme court decided to lift the eviction moratorium i know some people are saying with the abortion thing yeah the supreme court it's not that they're not going to take it up they just didn't do it in time for texas i think mississippi has another one so they may do it at that time but i i think there is a i'm pro-life yeah we're absolutely prolific absolutely i think but we're wound to two movement two yeah the contradiction where kids don't can't wear mass in texas but you gotta protect the baby in the womb is completely contradictory it's stupid the other thing is this is the thing that gets me about abortion these people aren't asking the questions why are these women getting these abortions you've counseled a lot of them yeah i have two yes a lot of them isn't a birth control mechanism oh i got pregnant oh no you go get an abortion no no we don't address the economics no the social part that's right all of those things that play into um why a woman chooses to a life-changing decision right for both people for both people yeah who sits down and talks to them right about you know the ins and outs and you know in 20 years you may look back with regret you know who i'm just i'm not sure that i agree with you i'm not sure that um you know that the whole if you are you're a regular citizen and you want to sue somebody for oh yeah you know for ten thousand dollars that anybody on the street can you know the insanity of the bill i understand the focus of the bill will pro-life will always be pro-life but the insanity of it is it's it's politicized and there are many people that don't know that for this particular um the evangelicals and the moral majority and all that the the abortion platform was a choice not their pick segregation was the platform pick but they realized that that was going to cause too much fur so they they do the abortion thing and do the segregation and discrimination thing underneath and um you know i've said it before in our program a lot of the guys that i was had some semblance of relationship with uh they broke those relationships broke during this pandemic season because um uh i i don't ever i don't ever deny people their opinion at the same time if you're free to give yours i'm free to give mine absolutely and if mine happens to be different from yours i'm not judging you right i'm just giving you my opinion yes so in a lot of these political things a lot of my peers and contemporaries we're disagreeing politically but what i found out is that they can't exist with disagreement yeah yep yeah that's what blows my mind it's all or nothing yeah you know so so we we can't we can't um and and something as as uh i wouldn't say unimportant i i measure everything against kingdom sure something as consequential or in some cases inconsequential as a political point of view if that breaks a relationship that's that's yeah it says a lot it says a whole lot but i but i'm i'm looking at this thing in texas and i'm wondering who's asleep at the wheel i mean it's it's a over the top way over the top um type of bill that these guys are going to have to wear around their necks and i believe i could be wrong now i believe that a lot of women in texas are not in favor of this thing oh no no the way that it is yeah because you can be pro-life the danger is in politics i'm pro-life but if you don't support every part of this they're saying you're not pro-life but this nonsense about joe blow can walk up to you because they see you driving and sitting in the parking lot of a clinic and and they can sue you and take you to court not what what that's ridiculous and we want to get down to it again pro-life absolutely we got to talk about it though absolutely the incest and the rape part they're not talking about that they're saying even in a sense of incessant rape it's fine it's fine again i'm we i've i've grew i knew somebody went to high school with who's mom his mom was raped that's how he was conceived okay right she chose to keep them you know that kind of thing so i'm not making a choice either here right all i'm saying is it's especially difficult if your daughter walks in and says yo this happened you end up find out a couple weeks she's pregnant after an assault most parents would consider i'm not saying they may do it but the thought will come through your head am i going to make my child carry this memory the rest of her life i'm just saying i'm not sure everybody's wired to do that you know but he here's here is here is here's where i have the problem with the whole political climate that we're in if you're pro-life and you're a christian i don't think you i don't think i have a right to inflict my belief on you nationally right absolutely totally agree i don't think my right or my belief takes away your choice absolutely now i don't know how people are going to take that but you know as far as i'm concerned and my business pro-life all day long but do i have the right to tell you exactly how to handle your situation exactly i say no i agree with you i agree with you now we're talking the difference between policy constitution scripture because they love to throw the constitution out when it's convenient when it's convenient it's convenient yeah because here's my here's another issue i got they want to legislate abortion but then say only the gospel will fix racism so let's not have no anti-lynching bills let's not have no hate crime bills but to me the abortion is a gospel issue because it's a matter of time absolutely but why they're picking and choosing they don't want to legislate one but legislators it's it's it's let jesus fix all the other stuff yeah and we'll handle this yeah it's it's a contradiction it's it's um i think it's i think it's to me it's embarrassing uh as some of my some of the people i've known a long time i've had to re reclassify their status with me yeah some people i've known a long time have this um we don't need to do anything about violence in the streets you know we do we don't need to do anything about people of color being mowed down by policemen we don't need to do anything about that but we do need to do something about the pro-life issue yes we do but we also need to take care of people after they are born absolutely we have to have the same i believe we have to have the same value for life outside the womb as we do inside yep yeah but this same group that i know will fight all day for pro-life but send your teenager to a war that's about oil and not about anything else thank you and let them go over there and die i don't get it i don't either and i don't understand why that dynamic is so hard to see yeah yeah i and and you're right the politics of it i wonder what's going to happen and this happened before when we see those conservative republicans they end up finding out it comes public that they had abortions on the side with their act with their um side piece and with their own children with their own children you know the the the i think that it's the southern baptist convention that's going through a whole lot of turmoil right now regarding these types of um infractions yeah that are happening with children and young girls and and that type of thing but they're they're kind of just not saying i don't know how you can be concerned about a child that's not born and not concerned about one that is yep segue into the covert thing yeah i know we've been redundant about this but there were several times in history in my lifetime that i thought that politicians all the politicians because all politicians have children yep you know republicans democrats independents that does not prevent people from from having kids i wondered several times in history to myself this is going to be the thing it changes the gun laws it changes the way we see each other's lives that puts value in each other's lives and every time we fail and now they politicized mass on children and would rather expose the kids to the virus just to make a statement yep you can't tell me you care about them you can't when they're closing down school districts uh left and right i'm all over the place and and you know i've had my grandkids aren't going back no mine aren't either no they're not going back right because you don't have to be a biologist you don't have to be an infectious disease specialist to recognize patterns they're sending these kids back to school and delta's breaking out in the schools so why would i knowingly if i had a choice yeah send my kid in and roll the dice every morning when i drop them off at school absolutely and then knowing that some parent has to go to work they know their child's sick but they're like i gotta go to work so send them anywhere anyway and then blow explosion in the classroom yep well you know before covet yeah people send their kids to daycare sick knowing full well that it could impact other people's households to school sick knowing full well the impact of it yep and then you got the other group says well they got to work well so you send yours to the school someone else's kid gets sick that person loses income because they have to stay home because your kids started this started the slide yep yep there's never a thought of there's never a thought that no and my thing is during the pandemic this is a special time it's not like a regular no time no there needs to be more assistance because we we got the money we can spend 300 million dollars on a darn military uh uh device we can use that money to help parents either stay home to help homeschool their kids during this time because we got it it's not like we don't well here's his death i mean did you see this just the statistics on the afghanistan war oh three hundred dollars a month 300 million dollars a day every day yeah yeah 300 million a day a day and that's been that war has been going on for what almost 20 years trillions of dollars we got the money don't give me that whole budget stuff come on man they have it's a budget when they don't want to do it yeah yeah if they want to do it then it's fine when the tax cuts came all of a sudden budgets wasn't concerned and the deficit wasn't a concern so now we got deficit through the roof again thanks to our republican administration which is a which is a you don't have to be a politician or a historian every time the republicans are in office the deficit goes through the seal all the way up trillions of dollars the next administration has a choice contribute to it growing or bring it down yep all right and how do you bring it down tax tax increases yep yep which got first pushing trouble no new taxes from the reagan then all of a sudden taxes had to go up because you can't live off the withdrawing all the time you can't do it you can't do it in your own house yeah because it's going to come back if you cut the income coming into your house something else has to be cut yep yep people think government has new money no they're shifting money from from just like normal people do yeah if you have you get they cut your salary by 30 at work some stuff doesn't get paid yeah you got to make you got to cut some stuff off yeah you got to do something you got to make some adjustments yeah but we don't do that because there ain't no new money there's no new money right but but it's always back to how much money did people make over in afghanistan from all those private security companies you know they made millions and millions of dollars lobbying to stay over there and i think that's why some of them stayed because they're invested over there they're invested over there what would make you stay in a hostile place except for profit absolutely and good money too yes sir not not talking about a little bit of money yeah even those who are doing private contracts over there for a year yeah making almost a half million six hundred thousand just over there just doing contract we're in individual i'm i mean i knew a guy that was a private contractor defense i mean fighting type of guy and he was training people and uh he would go over for six weeks at a time and i think they were paying him 30 grand every six weeks so he was so he was just he'd just go back yeah train some more guys six weeks come back stay over die that's tempting he was on a hit list okay by the opposition state that 30 grand was good to him because in his in his mind if i can do this with if if i can go to war for two years and get shot at bombs thrown yeah devices going on i can train these guys in the same conditions yeah and make more money in two years than i'll probably make in my life and then just sit on it i kind of don't blame them they just sent it home to the bank yeah 30 grand every six weeks and you know he'd come and when he came back on leave he'd come to church for a while talking he used to go here yeah he talked to him going you're going back i didn't even ask him if he was going back anymore when are you going back hey i mean i i get it but i mean but war is profits war a lot of money and we are forced to pay for absolutely absolutely how many lives were lost over oil i'm just you can't count them which is why it makes sense why they don't want to do the um the uh like the windmill the solar and all that stuff like that because all that money over there yeah i don't know we have a new caller vicky from shiny oklahoma six seven 866-743-8267-8674 three eight two six seven eight six six seven four three eight two six seven this is on point number one saturday morning christian based call and talk show in america live every saturday morning on any smart device 9 a.m to 10 am at david g evans one let's go to vicki um the rest of you come on light these lines up so we can start having some great conversations good morning vicki how are you i'm doing good bishop good to hear from you thank you you welcome nick good morning welcome to on point today yes i was listening to you talk about um not sending the children back and how the kids are coming home sick and everything i have a son um and back when he was going to kindergarten we have a little community that only had like 16 kids in the school in a rural area okay and they would have shown show-and-tell every you know friday and this child um he never had anything to show and tell but he came to school with pox oh my god and um the teacher asked was there you know anybody else have anything to show and tell and he got up in the front of the class and said yes no come on vicki no no he did that yes he did yes he did now there was only 16 kids in this small class okay everybody got them except for wow and then the school even you know the parent sent him to school because she had to go to work and they kept saying didn't you know he had chickenpox and she was like no well the child knew the mother the mother's lying okay and my child ended up being my goodness from head to toe oh no it's i mean i remember i remember when i was a boy very infectious very virulent you know if you were in the room with somebody you were going to get it yes kids are wiping their nose and rubbing up against me oh yeah sharing food oh yeah you know rough housing all of that and with this thing all you have to do is breathe the same air for a period of time that's it yeah that's it tell me where is shiny oklahoma near it is 45 minutes east of oklahoma city okay a buddy of mine recently passed away bishop tony miller from the gate church are you familiar with him no okay yeah i think he was in tulsa uh where was tony that's two hours that's two hours from you yeah you want to do you want to give a shout out to your church this morning bethany i hear you girl that connection's a good thing in it yeah it truly is trying to find a church that's not dance into what the world is dictate yes ma'am yes ma'am we come under criticism for that but we're sticking to it yeah well sticking to it i i mean i stick to a lot of things that people you know tell me i should change and i'm like uh no no well you shouldn't be like that oh well i'm like i am yeah yeah i think i mean people later on you know when when the ship falls or sinks then they're like why didn't you get on the boat well i told you that ahead of time i wasn't going you thought i was crazy yeah well how did you know i talked to the board every day yes sir i hear you vicky i truly enjoy listening to you all god bless you morning god bless you thank you so much for joining us and i have to remember that you all are uh hour ahead of me sometimes i forget when you all say nine o'clock i'm like oh okay nine o'clock but that's eight o'clock my time okay yeah okay i'm glad you told us that too thanks for getting up to listen to us yeah thank you and you all keep doing what you're doing thank you so much i'll talk to you soon huh all right all right bye-bye 866-743-8267 that was vicky from shawnee oklahoma give us a call let's talk about these things so um social security is having an issue due to covet yeah a lot of the retirees a lot of people are retiring yeah because of it so they're pulling earlier than they thought absolutely so uh i'm sure they'll probably find a way to because it's about 12 years away so we have time yeah for those who are in that age bracket that that are on social security now they're on it now they're on it now because they i think it runs out in 12 years so does that mean that those of us that are old enough to get it need to go ahead and file and get and get the money if you can if you can i mean i don't know i don't know i don't know what that does to you everything else when you yeah if you're working yeah all that i don't know i don't know the ramifications but yeah it sounds like um you know because i know some people that are getting it yeah and it's it's not a i mean it won't change your lifestyle but it's not money you would throw in a trash can yeah you got it every month yeah you would hold on to it yeah do something bank it up or something i got family members that do that yeah just okay yeah we got tom from florida he's on come on guys you guys come on now look at this um the five individuals who are indicted for the death of elijah mcclain did i hear right that they actually gave him a needle some type of injection yes they gave him um i can't remember what the name of it and attempts to calm him down why did he need calming down i guess he got scared because he was just walking home from the store and they came and thought he was doing something suspicious and i think he had like some sort of um uh he had a mental challenge something like he's like i'm a good kid i'm nice and you know and they saw that as well yeah what i saw was you know three guys it took three guys to hold one teenager down he looked like he weighed maybe 98 pounds soaking wet yeah and and that's the thing like you i don't know how does how do you how you how do you how are you coming home from the store yeah and end up dead yeah in the hands of five adults five adults yeah he's autistic yep yeah and it's just saying i'm a nice kid i'm not doing anything wrong and i guess he just got scared and why wouldn't you get scared i would be scared too my kids are still shook up from the time i got pulled over and they thought the guy was going to shoot me i i had to stop talking to the officer to calm them down yeah yeah because they don't we're gonna be fine it's okay yeah he's gonna hurt you that no we're fine yeah you know i what you gonna do let's go to time in florida hey tom how you doing this morning welcome to on point good morning bishop how you doing pastor nick um i was gonna talk about crazy florida but first the young man who was arrested by the police and then died in their custody uh just pastor nick was saying i i heard the current you know the transaction that was going on and he actually said that he had a mental problem that he told him what his problem was did he and please don't hurt me i'm just going home you know and when you hear that it's like wow this this kid is walking home from the store um just going home and you know this happens to him unbelievable yeah unbelievable and fear and fear can give you a strength that you didn't know you had well sure but you're really scared sure you know you hawk up a little bit yeah so i mean if it's still three off three of them come on now yeah and they gave him ketamine three of them like come on bro three yeah come on man i know and what's the thing with injecting this kid's academy i don't get that at all i i don't get that at all you know you got let's say that each guy weighed 200 pounds so he got 600 pounds against a kid that may have been by buck 25 yeah you couldn't handle that kid yeah right right even if he was adrenaled up yeah you couldn't handle it yeah exactly and it took this long almost two over two years for them to indict them this is two years old it happened in 2019. oh yeah i think more because the capes are hitting and once that happens everything you know so they're delaying the release of the tapes as long as they can oh yeah okay yeah they're trying to cover all this up and keep it okay okay i'm talking about our crazy state bishop uh yeah what's going on dates which happened to be leading the country with the craziness my goodness i don't get it tom it seems like he just he searches for another bizarre thing to do you all have the same impression down there oh definitely and he's losing a lot of um a lot of support from his republicans i guess who have kids the other thing is you know he lost the court battle but he still took the money from the school board he did it anyway he didn't not only did he do it showing now that they actually the day before the decision he actually had the money removed from the board of education so he did it before the decision and afterwards they didn't put it back in he uh he's running his own um his own his own government so he's lawless right now basically and is anyone saying anything anyone who has any influence saying anything about this um nobody um in the state but you know our president is actually saying you know what he's doing is crazy and um the superintendents down here in south water are saying they're sticking to their guns they'd rather lose money than lose a kid so i think as time goes on and the court system he's going to lose anyway but he's you know he's trying to save face right now does your governor have children ridiculous i'm sorry does your governor have children i believe he does i'm not really sure he doesn't act like he does i got to tell you one thing though i can't believe and this is a touchy subject the abortion thing they're thinking about introducing legislature here in florida and he actually said he doesn't like the texas law because i couldn't believe he said it but he agrees that the law needs to be beefened up here but going after suing people you know anybody can see you for sitting in a parking lot he didn't agree with that aspect of the law and i was like wow wow actually a uh a glimmer of common sense a moment of clarity huh well let's not give that's not given that much 30 seconds of clarity yeah because he goes right back to being who he is but uh wow i'm praying for all my friends that live there you guys and i'm really concerned that the uh i you still have a lot of people coming to your state for vacation though which i'm trying to figure out time you that's an understatement i just saw in the news last night that most of the hotels uh surrounding where i live are at 80 to 90 capacity wow and uh they usually at this time of year at about 60 to 70 on a bad year so so people are going where the danger is people are ignoring it they are living it up like uh there's no tomorrow you should have seen um the football college football's back okay they packed out virginia tech stadium 80 000 people in the stands yelling and screaming yelling and screaming just i mean just all packed in there like sardines i know i saw a report on they had a concert in england last weekend 50 000 people in attendance and as of uh like four days afterwards i believe they had registered 5 000 new cases of delta or some variant yeah of delta 5 000 already so 10 within days yeah right i don't know i don't understand in chicago i don't think that hundred thousand people doesn't make anything break out just i i knew it was coming yeah yeah not surprising tom you man you stay safe please yeah oh well definitely now you start if you start feeling crazy you call us and we'll talk you off the ledge okay i'll come back i'll come back to new jersey first all right doc talk to you soon all right man bye-bye we got keisha from elizabeth and robin from delaware let's go to this is keisha is that you yes hi good morning hi um i have a question i have a friend that i've been knowing for like maybe about three years so he um went to the doctor and got a um a bad report about um when he got to call him he got up he got the corona virus but he's been saved he's been watching his hands and everything but he feel like giving up because he got the um corona violence and he got to stay in rule for like at least 14 days uh-huh yes and so i've been talking to him like every day to cheer him up but you know it it feels like he he just wanna just he's like real sad angry all the time because he got the corona virus but they said after 14 days that um it should be you know cleared up for something yes but he hasn't been around a lot of people though it does you know i i have i have friends who have been extremely careful and they still don't know where they caught it right you know so trying to figure out where um you know can be a help for other people but you just don't know where you caught it yeah right right some people are catching in the doctor's office oh wow yeah because you don't know who you're around and it's in the air keisha that's the thing is it's in the air so i tell people it's not like you hear a mosquito flying at you and you can swat it away you don't know so what you have to do is keep your circles as small as possible right and be consistent with that because uh most people you know and some people they got to ride the bus and the train and they're working in offices where things are relaxed or you know going to places where people are communing together it just it just um raises the odds that you might be infected right and it's nothing to play with i've i've got friends i've got friends that are in their 40s and 50s that are on rehab right now from golden wow yeah i mean rehab for their heart their lungs uh whatever they whatever they do for your liver that kind of thing so it's a serious business out here yeah now also one more question and then i'm gonna let you go i have another friend i was waiting at the bus stop on saturday and um she said hector never went outside i think he's about five or seven years old and um and i said to myself he never went outside and he got the commodore virus somebody who came in the house had it that did that didn't appear that didn't appear to be sick somebody came in the house wow yeah that's all that's what i wanted to ask you um bishop yeah i'm glad you called keisha you stay safe here take care i will all right bye-bye now all right bye-bye we're going to delaware robin and then we're going to danny from florida hey delaware robin how you doing hey bishop and pastor nick and everyone how are y'all doing today we're doing fine welcome to on point once again [Laughter] when he said um the peace on the side the woman on the side that might push him from the bottom anyway he ain't right anyway i was trying um i just have a couple of comments only a couple right right right yeah just a couple what's a couple defined is [Laughter] first thing you always talking about was the abortion and i don't agree abortions um i think i talked to pastor nick about a youtube bishop where i had one i was in was in the 80s i think i was like 20 21. and it still bothers me and pastor nick said you have to find a way to forgive yourself but it was a situation where i didn't have a choice but my thing is how can they tell women what to do you know with their body and i mean i'm pro-choice because i believe once you can see but you know i just pray that god has forgiven me but we we as women we don't want men to tell us what to do with their body we don't tell them what to do with their bodies and it's usually mostly men making these laws right she got pregnant somehow i'm just saying this yeah you can get it by itself it just you know you know like back in the day in the old church when the young lady got pregnant they only brought her up in front of the church yeah i'm i'm used to mom yeah we're the boys right exactly exactly did y'all see where the um there was a student that was exposed to the cover 19 at the school and the school sent them home and said to the dad they have to be quarantined so the dad and a couple of his friends went to the school with um plastic ties it ties you like you can't tell my son to go home it's it's like saying that they were going to arrest the principal are they crazy yeah they were going to arrest the principal for what for protecting the other kids because they're saying it was against the law for her to require his son to quarantine and wear a mask and he has covey well he came in close contact with somebody so they're like he's got a quarantine yeah and i believe i did the right thing um i was called to deploy to louisiana okay but because louisiana is a hot spot i have a heart moment so they called me twice because i didn't make myself available and i explained to them i'm saying louisiana is a hot spot plus the inspectors can't find hotels the water has it and i'm like i don't want to take that chance because they did remote inspections a while ago when they had another one right so i'm asking i asked them why is fema not doing the remote inspections like they did before for this one yeah does it want to take one person to get that cobia i'm not taking that chance it's good money oh yes it's good money but it's not worth me getting coded no i agree with you right now yeah i agree with you okay you don't have anybody to impress i ain't trying to press i'm just you know no you don't have you don't have to impress those people you by going no oh yeah yeah you have to impress somebody no you got to protect yourself you got you got a lot a lot of people do you i thought that was the last one right she said it was the last one no this one she's like a black preacher you know i'm closing i'm closing i'm okay go ahead no now is it okay um is it hard make sure the parents love their kids hard and do i need social security numbers for uh to do a trust fund for my grandkids and that's it i think you need the social security numbers and i think discipline is situational sometimes it's light sometimes it's more stringent so it's not just i'm hard all the time you have you have to know when um to put pressure on and when not to so it's not it's not it's not it's not i love our kids it's not it's not too much you know you can't love them too much but loving too much doesn't mean permissiveness okay so loving and permissiveness is not the same thing okay okay you know the bible i was a trained of a child in the way it should go bible says um chastisement should ultimately come out of a sense of love um so so so there are times when you have to be rebuked strongly and there are times when you don't have to rebuke strongly and people have to sometimes we want to throw a um uh activity blanket over an entire thing i'm just gonna be hard well that doesn't work we gotta you know we have to we have to flow so i can pop some air upside down when i want when you see her do two things for do two things for when you when you see it for me kiss her and then go outside [Laughter] all right all right guys y'all have a blessed day and be safe and love you talk to you bye-bye eight six six seven four three eight two six seven eight six six seven four three eight two six seven going to danny from florida and then we're going to teresa from reston virginia hey danny how you doing good morning uh pastor and uh bishop how are you doing we're doing fine man thanks for calling us all right pastor nick staff everyone everyone's great yep yeah man what's going on down in your state we already heard from time now we're going to get the danny report you can't you just as soon as you think that well they can't do anything crazier it just gets worse and worse oh my the concern for the citizens is not there the only concern is how can we make more money what can we do and what have you but i noticed that some of my friends co-workers and what have you that were non-believers are coming to be more believers and they're not talking things that do not make any sense and what have you they want to hear more as to well what's your opinion about this and that to help you to understand what i'm saying is that this time of the year mainly here in south florida everyone's talking about because everybody's foot all crazy but the trend has been going away from that and i know of some people that said that well i'm not going to get a shot and what have you that they came to work and they proudly showed the band-aid on their arm and saying that i have my injection now three weeks i'm going to get that final one and the reason for that is that it's hard to say that it's somebody that you don't know or somebody that you do know that has come up with the virus yeah before it was far distant to say that you know you didn't know of anyone or you heard of someone but you didn't personally know them it's to the situation now where you do know somebody that's personally a neighbor or a friend that comes up with it and there's not anything that uh you can say well they were senior citizens that was the story well you know they're senior citizens but there's younger and younger yeah you gotta you have elementary schools closing man yeah the situation with the schools they're sending the kids to school and then these kids are coming up with the symptoms and you have 40 of the class that's not there wow yeah and they're not mentioning that amazing i'm i'm i'm i said it earlier in the program i'm just um the national lack of concern for the kids is startling to me i mean the you want to make a point that badly that you would put your kids in jeopardy yep it's ridiculous and they're saying some of the kids now are having long-term effects not just the adults now from africa oh yeah the kids are having bad folks having asthma issues now heart issues yeah and neurological issues arological stuff yeah in elementary school wow it's just yeah and and then what other protection do you have for the kids other than saying let's go ahead and do what we were doing before if we have to do a virtual type school situation or keep them out let's go ahead and do that until we find out some type of cure or some safety measures to go ahead and prevent this from happening no one is talking about that and then ones that do have a concern for it like our school board all except for one person all of them the salaries have been frozen it's crazy how nationally we're behaving as though we don't know how this thing spreads because we're doing the the very thing that energizes the spreading of the virus it doesn't make any sense not at all and it's it if the children depend on adults to protect them yep not put them in a position where they're exposed to a possibility i don't get it it's crazy it was it was easier to get an opinion from you and pastor nick on something that we were talking about uh at work is that we were noticing the things that are happening in the world uh we're having earthquake quakes we're having wars rooms of wars we're having things like this that we were told before there's no global global warming but we're seeing the weather doing things that has never ever happened before yeah you're having floods where you never had floods yeah wildfires out west that's taking up all kind of equity my belief is that god is trying to talk to us but we're not listening as a nation i think i think we have been uh one of the things one of the revelations i think that may be missed by many in the book of genesis is that god gave the responsibility for stewardship of creation to people yes and in the context of that of that responsibility it looks as though we have not done too good of a job because we have sacrificed environment for profit so we have delayed doing what's necessary and now generations that are coming are going to suffer because of the previous generations who were just profit oriented and not profit and environmental oriented and both can be achieved i believe you know that pursuit for oil caused a lot of damage in this earth and and um all of the ancillary impacts that oil has the use of it the exhaust the i mean just and it's a marvelous commodity that can be used for many things but the manufacture of it the the discovery of it the the the acquisition of it has caused a lot of environmental things so we've been god has given mankind the stewardship of creation and we've not done a good job with it and we're paying for it now and and and the patience of god is in how long it has taken for this thing to come to come to this point yeah did you see the school yesterday no yep oh vine street i heard it was underwater underwater the underpass going to brent franklin bridge yeah all under the water was almost hitting the over chest overpass yeah um riding down the school board well the water was high up the river was right there yeah it was and these these fools were jumping in the water swimming i'm like there's probably lysterian there and um i mean all types of stuff they're like it's sewage in there and they somebody jumped off so school kill's already dirty and now you got the sewer system added to it wow these people are sick i've never seen the school do that before it hasn't okay i have not in my lifetime yeah you should see the pictures there it was up it was a lot of water a lot of water i wonder what's happening with those people who live in maniac and all because yeah they were flooded i'm sure yeah uh mantua new york i hit you know they set the subway system down to new york because the water was coming down yeah i saw it it was i saw pictures of that yeah it was something danny go ahead man uh question for you are we gonna have the uh the the communion tomorrow outside yeah we're going to be streaming live we're streaming it we're streaming okay okay all right should be pretty cool yeah all right all right we appreciate y'all all right man you too talk to you soon be blessed bye-bye got teresa from reston and christina from sicklerville let's go to 866-743-8267-866-743-8267 hi teresa this is evan how you doing pastor nick i know you all don't have a lot of time but i listen every week i've been listening to you since 2011. god bless you thank you yeah a long time in fact i i was listening it was in 2012 and you had a gentleman for naca remember yes ma'am yes yes yes that was a that was a great program but anyway on the abortion issue i'm just gonna uh a few bullet points people say okay the abortion issue but they don't want to pay higher taxes for these kids that are being born for the children that are being born for them to go to public schools so they'll say don't raise my taxes no i call it what they are a pro fetus they're not pro-life from the womb to the tomb okay on that's a good term afghanistan deal you know you do hear that uh now you hear fox news saying well we gotta vet these people remember they were like well we're leaving all of these uh you know and we sh there has to be something done with the sid program but we're leaving all these afghanistan people now they're pretty much kind of whispering but i don't want them in my neighborhood i don't know what they're gonna do i don't know what's happening away from us that's their thought process oh man so that's the bullet point on that and then the last one is the climate uh crisis yeah you know so you hear christians and i'm a strong like you evangelical tongue shocking christian people will say well we got to let god do it god's like i gave you all the planet you take care of it i'm my hands are off of it until mankind comes we got to do something we have got to change the policies and i think each individual we can do it ourselves i have an old car but i said my next car is going to be uh electric or at least a hybrid we've got to do things at our level but anyway god bless you all and i'll be listening next week god bless you girl thanks for calling okay bye-bye i i think the whole stewardship piece of creation um is missed on a lot of a lot of christians and that you know uh the bible says in psalms that god gave the earth to men yep yep to the children of men yep i somebody brought this up and it made so much sense they said our issue in america is not evangelicalism it's fundamental fundamentalism invading evangelicalism okay so a fundamentalist view of scripture can be very bad where it's like an overly literal interpretation okay so their thought is when it comes to creation god said heaven and earth will not pass away until the end so you can just do what you want so you can do whatever you want to do because god's going to take care of it because adam and eve had to tend and tell the guard okay let's go to christina hi christina good morning welcome to on point hi good morning um bishop and pastor nick how are you thanks for calling us today you're welcome i just wanted to hit on the point about schools okay go ahead um i am a teacher so i do teach in person so i do understand the risk of covet the problem is and what the officials are having a problem with like the school board officials when you go virtual all the kids are not getting on so now you have kids that are in fourth grade who are on a second grade level or kids who are on in third grade who were on the first grade level because when covet first started their parents didn't put them online they didn't teach their kids so that is the struggle between having kids go virtual and having kids in person and even though it's like a hard choice to make as a teacher i would rather them be there in front of me because at least i know they are getting an education at times when we did go virtual last year i had like half my class logging on and then they even wouldn't stay on all day and then there's no accountability to parents and then they just get pushed to the next grade so now you keep dealing with these kids who are getting further and further behind and then even kids who have come in this year who were all virtual last year they are not engaged in school at all they don't want to do any work they don't even want to pick up the pencil and put it to the paper so that's like the other side of the virtual learning the dynamic would cover it so it's kind of like a catch-22 where you have to kind of put the kids in school because you have some parents who are just not getting their kids online or making arrangements for their kids to be online so do you think that well just like i guess with anything else getting the school still is a parent's responsibility getting the kids to school steals the parents responsibility and and i don't think that is eliminated because your kid is not able to go to school i so what you seem to be saying is a big part of the problem is not the children as much as it is to parents exactly they said a lot of inner city kids like in philly it was really bad for the kids because they just weren't engaged because the parents weren't so the parents were putting putting them in front of the computer and walking away walking away yeah just letting you can't you can't do it you know i i literally told my grandchildren's school that they need to put me on salary as the assistant teacher because you can't like you can't leave them alone yeah no you can't no you can't leave them alone thank you christina thanks for that point of view thank you appreciate it now talk to you soon all right bye-bye bye-bye so we are we are um getting ready for our 11 30 drive-in service today we're excited about our driving communion tomorrow at six yep so we got 11 30 server encounter today outdoors we invite all of you to come over and see us and then tomorrow we have a full day 8 a.m uh encounter worship 9 45 begins our engage live 11 a.m is our second encounter worship service of the day and 6 p.m is our communion encounter at 6 00 p.m and that's going to be outdoors tomorrow driving communion we're looking forward to it now the people can pick up their elements where fascinating we're going to do it only on sunday okay everything's going to be right there right there right okay everything will be out there um even what about the people that are not gonna come they're out of luck okay so email your prayer request well because we're having service yeah we're having services if we're indoors we don't do it yeah we're having service that's right they've got this so you got it right yeah if you have a prayer request write us at social email us at social go to bethany.com um we want you to subscribe please to our um the david g evans one and bbc of nj on youtube watch us on youtube you can get everything there if you haven't watched or gotten engaged in chestnut checkers and you haven't watched or gotten engaged in 10 times better you want to jump on that but also the power of confession on saturdays is really helping people in their walk with god subscribe to d gems and on point on our podcast platforms and we will uh for pastor nick i'm bishop david evans remember faith acts like a thing is so even when it's not so that it might be so god bless you see you at 11 30. bye-bye you

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