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foreign foreign [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Music] uh [Music] [Applause] [Music] good morning good morning bethany family hi we're so glad to see you out here this morning happy to see everyone if you guys are you know tone into the chat this morning welcoming into our engage live service here at bethany baptist i am sister desiree and i'm reverend kelly mobley and we want you to definitely drop into the chat where are you streaming in from i know that we have people from new jersey philadelphia delaware i know we're like right in this particular area but what about outside of the area outside of the country where are you streaming in front of us know where you're tuning in from this morning and make sure that you guys tag and share with your friends with your family with your co-workers people you don't like you never know who needs to hear the word this morning absolutely absolutely and really all of those who are vips you know you are our very important people you have streamed in for the very first time welcome welcome and we are excited to have you with us so let us know who you are so that we can engage you so that we can connect with you we never want you to feel like you're um you know i had the first time visitor yeah you know and they used to when the church was open oh call our visitors please stand up that's what we wanted to stand up raise your hand let us know that you are in the building and allow us to welcome you in we are the family of god and although we are locked out geographically from being inside the building we're not locked out from being able to touch your life and we're excited to have you with us this morning and we pray that you're going to enjoy this this this experience as well as i hope you've already joined the morning worship experience yes you're going to tune in for the next service yes guys and if you do have those prayer requests don't be afraid to drop them down in the comments below no matter how big or small and if it's anything that is too sensitive anything that might be a little too tender make sure that you guys uh email or call the church so that we can have someone touch and agree and pray with you personally so ref kelly i think we have some praise reports and testimonies that we want to share with our family this morning so our first one comes from felice wilson he woke me up this morning started me on my way isn't that a is that a song yeah come on please all right yeah it started me on my way allow me to get to work without any hurt harm or danger bless my children their families and we are so blessed thank you lord amen amen i'm going to have to let you be all on i can't even pull mine up right now but i know one thing that with the storm that we had recently in our particular area i know that many of us are just grateful alone just for the fact that god covered us protected us and enabled us really to be here yet again today so i know that's part of everybody's phrase report your hands is up the tornado passed you over god is still gonna touch this area no it did not my god and honestly praise reports i praise requests for everyone who did get touched by that storm we are praying for you guys absolutely oh my god our next one is from teresa watson he woke me up he protected me gives me unconditional love health and family you know those are like small things that you don't really think about but we're thankful for god for you uh sister teresa and we have ronnie williams i'm here to let you know that that i've been blessed beyond measure thank you jesus he said beyond measure yeah beyond what he even thought right from patricia barclay as the old song we sang just another day the lord has kept me from all evil with my mind stayed on him and then one more we have angela franklin amen he lifted up the heaviest the heaviness from my heart that had been causing great pain and released major financial blessings on my life you know what that is amazing to release the heaviness i love it thank you guys so much for uh bringing in your praise reports and your testimonies because you never know who's no you don't touch me and i feel like whatever god can do for somebody else he can also do for us that's why the testimonies are so important and the praise reports are important it's not only important for us to pray for one another but it's also important for us to share what god is doing for one another you never know what your testimony could do for somebody else so we ask that you would share that you know get into the connections church and share it there or you can write us at social go to bethany.com let us know how god is blessing you how he's overshadowing you how he's protecting you in this season let us know so that we can share that information with somebody else that is the way that we encourage the body of christ as i've said before we're not actually here physically so we can't talk to each other you know the way that we used to but we can talk to each other online yeah we can share about what god is doing and in that way we become stronger because of it oh yeah that's the best way that we can still connect and touch and agree it's all about connecting you mentioned the connection church earlier can you tell us a little more about that because i love it you know a little more to get more people in it you know well the connection church is really all about connecting with you being able to touch and agree with you in a more intimate setting not just online with everybody there but with the body of christ together we're able to connect with each other in the connections church was created by our pastor by the leadership so that you and i could have a private place where we could come together and learn about god's word um all of the videos all of the teachings all of that is in the connections church from fresh friday to morning worship experience to this engaged live to the women's ministry men's ministry all these things are here in the connection church just for you they're all available for you and guys you know we're a visual church so you know we have a video to show you guys so check this out hello wherever you're watching from around the world we welcome you to the encounter worship with us one god one community join the connections church hey so i know that you enjoyed that video about connection shirts so make sure you get online go to the bethany page look up our group and make sure that you join today absolutely guys and you know without it wouldn't be engaged live without having a little fun up here right uh a little fun but also let's let them know that the fun is really geared towards the services oh always it's geared toward the message we want to make sure that the message that bishop has been preaching we are able to retain that information you know i believe that's why we have the monday recaps so that we can make sure that whatever we've been learning has been taking place inside of our hearts that we can grow and learn by and we know that we've been in what the angels angels serious angels and demons angels and demons and so desiree is going to pull up these questions and we're praying are you paying attention pretty much so all right so the game is called true false so angels appeared to us to deliver their message for our lives true false say that one more time one more time angels appear to us to deliver their message for our lives true false it's not their message they're delivering god's message she likes to trick us all right next one god works in simple not always spectacular ways that is so true so true so true word is always simple and the reason why it's always simple is because he never wants to be above our heads you know he wants to be able to relate us directly that's why the word comes to us in different ways that through our dramatic presentation we're able to get the word of god through singing we're able to get the word of god and through the teaching we're able to get the word of god even with this engaged session we're able to get the word of god simple easy for us to connect and it's always the simple things we don't want to do all right one more here faith makes the tangible intangible that is true ma'am it is false faith makes the intangible tangible it's the word play guys it's the word play i promise but that's okay one out of three it's all right she gave us a word so we'll let her have it but guys we are just so excited we love to have a good time and we are getting ramped up getting ready for our q a session with our dynamic duo bishop and pastor nick we're so excited for what they have to say what god is going to say through them yes and guys you know we love to hear your questions they love to hear your questions so don't be afraid to write them down in the comments below because my is going to read them off a little bit later as we get ready to head into our dynamic discussion right yes absolutely that's one of the things that this whole thing has been set up to do is to make sure that you're able to connect with the men of god as they share the word with us you know and help us to understand the things that sometimes we don't understand and there's nothing there's not i remember pastors always said there's never a dumb question yeah you know that um the dumb question is not asking the question at all so if there's something that god has laid on your heart something you don't fully understand something in the message that was preached or taught today or even in times past feel free we want to hear from you we want to know what your questions are you never know how it might impact somebody else yeah and guys in all of that we even though we are out of technically out of our transforming lives month we are still transforming lives in time yes we are forever and always so we have a video promo for you guys to watch so check it out now [Music] look around you there's so much work to do this world is in no condition for us to simply sit back and watch there is a tangible desperate need for jesus a glimpse of hope in the midst of hopelessness [Music] jesus experienced this he saw it firsthand the need broke his heart and filled him with compassion he turned to his disciples and said the harvest is plentiful but the workers are few this alone should stir our hearts it's a calling a calling to make a difference to share the truth of the gospel to be a light in the darkness to be the church it's time for us to look beyond ourselves to turn our focus to the field to answer the call and passionately share the love of jesus this is our mandate this is our mission are you ready to do the work [Music] what an empowering video that was you know knowing that we have to share the good news of jesus christ which is what we've been talking about early all morning about our ability to share that the fields are ripe and that they are waiting for us to share the word of god with them and speaking of that this church has been here for i think it's 50 or 51 years something like that somewhere around it that that uh that year yeah and we're celebrating church anniversary next month for the month of october and i know for one without this church i wouldn't be where i am today and i wouldn't be who i am today i've been here for over 21 years and god has just grown me from the time i first walked in until where i am today i remember my daughter was still even in high school and who was now in college you know so i'm sure that there is a story that you can share with us that we can share with others about how the church has impacted your life you know um even when we were in the building even while we're outside of the building the church is still impacting our lives i love the fact that god is not contained in the walls although i miss being in the woods yes absolutely i love the fact that he is not contained here because he resides inside of us and one of the things that i'm really really encouraged about even in this season is that bishop has given us such a rich word that even outside of the building i still carry the word with me i still love jesus he's still inside of my heart and i know that i'm not the only one and so we want you to send your videos we want you to send your testimonies about the church how many years you've been here how you started where you're at now you can send that video to social go to bethany.com and if you're not that person that wants to get on the videos i know how that can be sometimes write us send pictures from when it was before or how you experienced it like old photos that we may not even have that make up a part of our church history feel free as i said again to write us at social go to bethany.com desperate can you share with us your experience like when you first got here well what was it like for you my experience i think i've been here three years now but one thing yeah only like three years it's gotta be more than three only like three or four years yeah okay but one thing i do think is really interesting is in the grand scheme of like churches we're fairly young church but so impactful and there's so much that goes out into the community here so i appreciate that even though we are technically still like a very young church we still are so impactful you know i like the fact that you say in the 50s we're still young because you know churches are like hundreds of years old you know in the grand scheme of like church right but i just i appreciate this church so much and i guys i'm so excited about our church anniversary i hope you are too like right kids rev kelly said make sure you email in some pictures uh send some videos because you know this is how we keep the body growing it is how we keep our church moving and going forward is by continuing to lift each other up and continue to build and guys we one way we continue to build is again asking questions yes so we're gonna get ready to head into the discussion but make sure you guys ask those questions make sure you guys tag people share and let people know that we are here this morning so we're going to get ready to head over to our dynamic duo bishop and pastor nick but after the discussion don't leave because we're going to be back here yes because we definitely want to pray for you today we want to connect with you and we all want to give a quick shout out to innovations ministry for all that they are doing and the seven week classes getting ready to start on september 14th stay tuned for more information see you guys soon praise the lord hello how you doing so good to see you once again um yeah getting into this angels thing man and yeah yeah coming out of it uh hopefully uh we're going to end it on uh something real personal called angels and you ain't just in your yoga yeah so everybody's uh answer the questions as to what they do for individuals people of god yeah how to actually call them into action and what what god does and he is providing us with everything that we need for victory and the angelic is just a part of that yep yeah yeah he'll never leave you defenseless yeah never leave your defenses god says i'll never leave you for sake it doesn't mean he's going to show up in the way that he deems appropriate for the moment yeah yeah yeah yeah it just rings more and more the old saints will keep you from dangerous seeing another yeah you don't know what you don't know how they're working behind the scenes yeah and what you're being protected from i wonder sometime if i offer faith has become a little too sophisticated for our own good and that the more knowledgeable we become about worldly things the less faith we have concerning things in the kingdom and that that invisible realm the more you depend on reason that invisible realm becomes more difficult to perceive so we have to make sure that we understand the balance between the natural and supernatural and that part of that supernatural existence we have is everything god says he's provided for us in that word how do you think that we slip so far away from dependence on him to dependence on our own abilities i think there's a family familiarity with our own ability okay so it's easier to trust something we know versus a god we're still getting ready okay to know so it's that man at the pool do you want to be made whole usually every time i try there's nobody here to help me one takes faith the other one takes experience right an experience is easier to believe in faith which is why god continues to give us experience after experience because he knows experience helps build our faith but but but jesus greatest challenge on one of the greatest challenges jesus had walking the earth yeah was not the folk walking with him it was the ones with him every single day his biggest thing was y'all don't get it even after the resurrection y'all still don't get it yeah you know um who the men say that i am no now we finally got oh you are the son of god then something else happens well who are you it just yeah there's a cycle it's that nonstop cycle of uh it mimics israel's cycle with god on off on all of you on off miracle after miracle deliverance after deliverance it did not it did not who said this i think we do get drunk on grace yeah you get used to god moving god yeah yeah just you know stuff going he's being so good that we get spoiled by it yeah and then start to behave almost um i wouldn't say in a bratish way because i don't want to put that on us but he would call it carnal yeah you know we start to to take for granted you know what what he's doing the small things he's doing all the time for us yeah that's that's british is that because cardinality is immaturity that's true cardinality and you know back in the day was always you're not carnal spiritual people took that too far every saint goes through a period of cardinality if it's immaturity and if we're real we're mature in some places and not in others another place you know grossly immature i think the biggest challenge for the people of god is not the enemy i think the biggest challenge is uh the emotional deliverance maturity that we have to attain yeah and i think it's easy to mimic maturity yes you know because there are there are traditional things you can do in worship and and in speaking of course because the lingual of the church will give you the impression that someone is spiritually mature absolutely but i find that people that specialize in the lingo yeah usually are the least mature absolutely they're hiding some yeah and and lord have mercy we've made the demonstration of power glory and spirit spirituality on praise worship prayer and watch this even the miraculous and the supernatural yeah when you read scripture what revealed the glory of god the most when jesus was walking the earth was not raising lazarus from the dead no was not all the miracles it was when he died on the cross the scriptures clear that the greatest presentation that jesus ever made that he was god the s and the savior was when he was willing to die on that cross yeah and that was an act of love so scripturally love is spiritual maturity well love is supposed to drive our faith absolutely absolutely yeah which made which is the reason why his miracles were so strong because love was driving absolutely if you i remember one time we did a lesson on teaching on on god and love and if the bible says god is love then that tells me that love has the same authority power integrity as god does in its purest form it can heal you in its purest form yeah it can it will raise you from the dead yeah he didn't raise ladders because he didn't love him he raised ladders because he did kill him yeah but and it's but it's easier because how many times have we seen somebody move greatly in the supernatural move greatly in preaching and teaching praying and all that stuff and then when you get to know them as a person you're like just horrible either grossly immature or some kind of crazy personality but just mean as the devil because because we we've emphasized gift anointing and watch this because god uses us in spite of yeah rather than you know does my character match yeah all these other things that are being presented well we live in a world where people are qualified by ability and not by who they are yes you know so you can have some of the most successful people in the world who are horrible at people yeah just just just horrible absolutely because so much of the unregenerated person i was looking i'm doing a study now on worship and i'm concerned about worship and i'm concerned about church practices in that man is three-dimensional body soul and spirit flesh soul and spirit and i'm i'm looking at the way it appears as though the body of christ internationally is headed and we are appealing to the first two dimensions and not moving the third dimension because praise worship um all the things that we do to represent ourselves as god are supposed to move us spiritually closer to god yeah but i think what's happened is if our soul is stirred up and we're excited it we think that's the spirit yeah if my flesh has moved and i'm really this was really good today you know we had good church yeah but where you moved closer to god by the air yeah so we we're we're in danger of becoming not just more fleshly but becoming more soulish yes yep in our approach to god you know the the and the demonstration for the modern church has a lot to do with how you physically present yourself yeah so the more energetic you are the more spiritual you are yeah you know the less energetic you are you're not as anointed as someone more outward going so it's it's it really is appealing to the flesh and at best to the soul yeah when the goal needs to be the spirit right jesus spoke spirit to spirit he didn't speak spirit to flesh yeah well we're going to jump into this okay because it reminds me it's like this all growth growth can be good growth can be bad because viruses grow [Music] infections grow so it's like if i feed my kids all sugar everything it'll appeal to their feelings you'll see them grow but it's not healthy it's not good growth it's not good growth so you're right we appeal to what excites us and cry in church but by the time we get in the car we're cussing again and doing whatever a real move of god impacts you well and here's the time here's the thing the thing that i think has to happen is when the soul is touched then the deliverances that we need internally in the inner man starts to happen right but if i'm always limited to flesh and soul and my spirit has never moved and that movement is not for me to feel like i just had a good time that movement is to move me closer to god why because the closer i get to him the more i reflect him yep and and the more my issues are overcome so a lot of people don't have spiritual perspective but they have a whole lot of uh flesh and soul reference that feels spiritual that's that's that's the craftiness of the enemy yeah you know that that that making us feel spiritual yeah when it doesn't move past the second dimension of who we are yeah because god does move your soul but you said but it does appeal to your emotions but it's not all emotions uh you know just got to move a spirit you got to move it spiritually closer to god positive impact yep because a real to me a real experience with god changes you as a person absolutely well it there is no experience with him yeah authentic that does not change yeah because we've said this a lot the last couple weeks that renewing of the mind is not a one-time event right it's on it's on go and and you know how did i say it yesterday somehow we've gotten the impression that the supernatural is a one-time event right when actually the supernatural is supposed to be a lifestyle for us so the lifestyle is supposed to be one of renewal and transformation yeah yep if that makes sense no it does yeah because it's possible you got questions first question is from sid are we to understand that we are forgiven but angels cannot be forgiven when the third were kicked out of heaven there was no forgiveness for them right yes god just booted about yeah yeah they lost their privilege yeah yeah all right so the next one is it feels like i have been battling demons all my life how do i finally break free and live my life in freedom without fear of failure of making bad decisions that hurt me and my family you want to start passing it i would say first self-forgiveness which is one of the hardest things to do it's easier sometimes to forgive somebody else it is to forgive yourself yeah um but it's giving yourself the same grace that you choose to give to others right then after you self-forgiveness pinpoint those areas that you need to change start working on those areas so you won't make the same mistake again i think sometimes we get into you know we forget that part and wonder why we keep failing yeah because we're not addressing those reasons those reasons we continue to fail the other thing is part of giving yourself some grace understand that you will make mistakes we never get it right all the time but we strive for it every single day but i think a big part of it is getting to the heart of why of why we are the way we are yeah who we are so we can start making those adjustments change and transformation is not god like putting some glitter on you while you sleep the bible says we have to participate in our own sanctification the good thing is the holy ghost helps us where it's not a striving as we've been talking about the past couple weeks where you're not forcing it it's an empowerment that you have to walk in we're going to talk about tonight a little bit knowing who you are as a church and living that out yeah i think also to add to that um it takes a little forethought not to make a mistake so most people think about accountability and responsibility after they do a thing yeah when if i think about what i'm accountable for and responsible for before i make the decision it'll help audit my decisions the next thing it has to do is even though we're not perfect and even though there's grace we can't hang grace in front of our faces and i'm not perfect can't be our bailout right absolutely so i have to move that out of the way so i'm not giving myself an excuse to make a bad decision the other thing is that you have to think about how the decisions you make are impacting other people's lives and if you say you care about them then you must behave as though you do yeah because concern is not a concept right we've been saying this for a long time love is not a concept all of them require action to be real in people's lives so if i want if i want to stop making a mistake i have to stop doing the same thing over and over again and giving myself the excuse you know everybody around me needs to forgive me you got to kind of pull that net from around you so you can start thinking before you do a thing instead of thinking after you do it i am really enjoying this series can you talk a little bit more about learning to trust god even when we can't see or feel his presence in our lives well i think i think one of the things that uh there's some there's a lot of extremes in the body of christ there's there's a camp that says you should feel everything and there's a camp that says you shouldn't feel anything i think both are wrong i think the the the actuality is is there are some things that i will not feel that i have to believe because i trust god and the the successful belief will give me a feeling of satisfaction and trust so in order for this thing to work to trust god i have to behave in ways that align me with his will a lot of times we want to make mistakes and then want him to fix them that's not trusting him also yeah yeah so so what we need to do is start to the the quickest thing i know is to begin to walk in his will once you begin to walk in his will then he begins to you give him the opportunity to respond in the ways that he desires to you it's amazing to me how trust doesn't happen overnight i think we talk about faith and trust being the second dimension of faith and knowing him in the power's resurrection being the third dimension so so trust is maturing my faith to a place where i trust him implicitly and then trusting him implicitly until the resurrection power of god is coursing through my life and in all of that my decision-making begins to mature and all of a sudden i'm not making the same mistakes i made five years ago all right this is from robin on facebook which robin b robin uh does the angel god assign to you have to have a knowledge of your personality and characteristics well god knows them the angel does and a lot of times when you see angelic conversation with human beings angels are pretty direct you will do this you will do that this is what's going to happen if you don't do this blah blah so they kind of move personality out of the way by saying thus saith the lord in other words you need to listen to what i'm about to tell you so um god does give if you look at mary's situation he did give room or space for her to reason and then to come to a conclusion in a conversation so he's not above conversation but he does know ahead of time what objections you're going to raise you know you never see an angel say well i don't know let me check with god on that see what he says he comes down with full knowledge of who he's talking to yeah i go to a church that teaches anything bad that happens to us even sickness is a result of our sin or disobedience this doesn't seem right to me but it's being taught from scripture [Music] it's not right it's not right it's just it's bogus it's bogus yeah you know it's as silly as if you get sick and die it must be because of a lack of faith yeah um some of some of my contemporaries who are faith people have died of illness [Music] and everybody knows they have a reputation for faith so that's just bogus that's that's incorrect teaching and unfortunately you may be able to find a couple scriptures in the bible and turn them on their head and make that point of view seem relevant yeah yeah there's only a few miracles if i remember where the issue was a result of sin but it wasn't every single miracle of scripture and even in john 9 when they come it was a back then same thing jesus did his parents sin and jesus is like no there's nothing to do with his parents and you're right that yeah you know you can't go out and drink a fifth of jack daniels every day and then end up with a bad liver and say you know why did this happen right right you can't you just can't do it that way but the reality is there are some sins that cause sickness and not it's not all of them it's not all of them i am a new christian and this series has really helped me to see things in a different way i am trying not to go overboard and see everything as a spiritual battle can you explain how to find a balance between the spiritual and the natural that's a lot of wisdom for a new christian yeah because there are there are christians that i know um they've been saved 30 years and they think there's a demon behind every door yeah or under every rock so that's really really admirable good question to have that much wisdom and have that kind of question at this time in their walk with god um go ahead pass nick you started well i mean i i think i've been thinking about this correct me from wrong okay i've been thinking about this for a while some things are just life yes it's not the devil it's not god it's life for instance we're all going to get old mm-hmm and our bodies are going to start breaking down that's called life well yeah because there are laws there are laws yeah if you decide yeah to go up to the 15th floor of the building and jump off there's a law called gravity that's going to bring you down through it wasn't the devil it wasn't the devil yeah it's like somebody being 80 years old and they're getting sick it's like a part of you know and then some people don't know some people don't it's just the whole premise is that there are times where it could be spiritual there are times where it's just like you said a law that is a part of this world the rain falls from the just and the unjust you keep driving your car through intersections through red lights and you do it habitually sooner or later the timing is going to happen yeah that was foolishness this the foolishness was sin yeah yeah it's just but it's a law yeah some are natural laws some things are spiritual yeah no good question that was a good question yeah all right this next one is from vicki what role does our soul play understanding i understand flesh and spirit but i get confused when speaking of flesh and soul okay i i think the confusion and you jump in and out on this the confusion comes on on their proximity to one another flesh and soul my soul needs to be saved so i start doing different things with my flesh but the soul includes um if i can my emotions my personality um the the my my mental things all that all that human flow is in the soul that's why the soul needs to be saved or if you will sanctified made holy so that so that the body and the rest of what i do comes under the auspices of redemption um but that can't be done without the holy ghost so so the soul part i can say this is the you part and that's the you part that has to be saved so we got flesh soul spirit that's so part of our personality who you are as individuals that's why it's so much in the bible about transformation thinking transformation of your heart transformation of the way you speak transformation it's it's a it's a you change and that's where the you is that makes sense yeah i've never been asked that question before no it's it's god creates adam he's a embodied spirit and he becomes a living soul and after the fall eventually our bodies will be saved or redeemed or whatever you want to call it but you're right it's that that mind piece and the hard part is your soul and your spirit in the sense of they feel so close yep that's why we can get i think it's god but it's really our desire yeah yeah man because it's that strong feeling and the bible says the word of god is the only thing that's precise enough to get between that soul and spirit all right so we have a tithing question next uh does it display more faith to pay my tithes weekly or can i sew it all at once i want to make sure i'm doing the right thing whichever your discipline is the the thing to do is to pay god before you pay yourself if you're disciplined enough to do it every week or discipline enough to wait once a month and and to me the once a month is a challenge because stuff can start to challenge your commitment so what we want to do is is be true with ourselves i would say a habit of doing it twice a month or whatever it is once a week if that keeps you disciplined great the type of person that can do it every two weeks and hold your discipline great person that can do it once a month great but it says it it's better done if when you receive you immediately now if that's once a month that's fine but if you're getting something every week with me everything that i get the first thing i do is give it to god every single thing and that's the discipline i have because you know grandkids can call something happened here you know two days later did i did i did i no no no no so this is from uh luke skywalker on youtube i'm doing i'm doing uh one thing in life but i feel like god has something entirely different for me to do with my life and i just don't know what it is okay i wouldn't be concerned overly concerned about what you don't know i would ask god to reveal it to me but you may be suffering from something that a lot of people go through and that's trapped by what we call the tyranny of the way of the word or this or that there is no law against you doing what you're doing now and something else very well yep and there's in this bible for that um david gets anointed to be king goes back and starts tending his father's sheet so he's he didn't say i'm annoying it now so i can't do the sheep job i'm anointed and i can't do the sheet job so you don't you want you don't want to step away from a skill that you've developed and something that's productive you don't have to throw that away to do something else all right so this one is from shirley on facebook can someone that passed away and used to deal in the darkness of the spirits can they still have power over you even though they are no longer here do it now i i don't particularly the whole concept of generational curses that's taught and you know i do believe we saw prophet ambatain coming here you talk about you know this person did this with this they were younger this is why they had these problems and stuff like that i do believe the demonic is real i also believe that jesus has the power to break all that stuff absolutely and if you walk around believing that that person has more power than god over your life they will they they will they will they will continue to have that influence because it's a spiritual thing spiritual thing so so it's a matter of weather we allow that history to influence our thinking and our behavior now that because all that's all a curse is is an influence so if the person has died but i am keeping the calf alive in my heart then that will influence my behavior my thinking my spiritual well-being my mind my heart so so it's a matter of i'm saved now i don't have to allow it because it has no authority over me yeah we just talked about yesterday the lord has made it so we have joined him in heavenly places and that heavenly place is far above all principalities powers the demonic yeah so the it's time to exercise that privilege that position and that authority that that stuff that historically was real no longer has any hold on any authority over me so the change in behavior change in thinking will signal the change in spiritual life okay um this is from sid i read i read an article that music is therapeutic and even improves the health of some people depending on the type why do some people resist the spiritual praise and worship that stirs up sometimes that could be a loaded question well okay might as well worship and praise are based upon relationship with god if i discount the necessity for that i'm revealing the degree of relationship i have with god so a person who's saved or says they're saved but doesn't see worship as a necessary part of their life even though it's taught in the bible from front to back is really indicating they have no real relationship with god because a part of that loving relationship worship is that praise is that prayer is that service is that stewardship is that giving is that sacrifice is that so if i those are indicators of relationship and maturity so if a person doesn't you know they well that's not in my personality i got a question sincerely what kind of relationship you have with god that you don't think he's worthy of the worship that the bible says we give him we made worship and praise about us about him yeah all right y'all we're out of time don't forget to join us eleven o'clock service um tonight at six o'clock um driving service we'll be back outside again yeah for communion they're gonna pass the elements out uh this evening at six o'clock so we would love to see you all there those who were distant it's gonna stream live like normal uh just have your stuff out and we'll have a good time see y'all later see you later welcome back guys coming off of that hot discussion my gosh you guys are incredible with your questions wasn't it amazing it's always amazing you know one of the takeaways that i got from the message this morning is when pastor nick began to talk about how things grow and he said you know in the season that we're in this virus is growing um but to counteract the antithesis as we used to talk about in our preachers class which is the exact opposite is being able to grow in the word of god yeah that all things are growing and all things are changing and we're just excited that they share the word of god with us the way that they do and they answer the questions that we have and we look forward to more questions from you and more time when we can engage with you this is donna mcpherson i see you every single week in here on the chat in the services and we're just grateful to god that you have been getting what god has ordained for you to get in this season and this time and we wish you a happy labor day as well i saw her in the comments and i really appreciate her you know so how about you desiree i love what you said about growth like yeah and and it's so interesting like you said he said bad things grow but also good things grow um one thing that really stood out for me for the discussion was the comment about being a new christian and how to decipher yeah you know what's spiritual and what's worldly like that's a i still consider myself a very like a baby christian i do because you know we're still growing still growing you know still forever growing so that is a very real conversation you know like how do i know what is god and what just is right you know so i really love that question and i more so love that the response to that question so i really want to deep dive a little more into that and like probably ask some more questions myself going forward because you know the reality is is we're all still growing right um as long as it the scripture talks about as long as your seed time and harvest summer and winter that the earth still grows and bishop has always related us to the earth you know and that we're a part of that's how we were created and so we're going to always be growing as long as there's still life in us and so any baby anyone who's halfway there mature in their faith we're always growing and evolving and learning a little bit more about god what i saw in scripture two years ago is totally different than what i see in scripture today you know and so this thing is you're not by yourself as i guess what i'm really trying to say whether you're young in the faith or old in the faith you're never by yourself because we're all growing and learning about what god wants us to do that's funny you said like new scriptures because i'll hear a song and i'm like oh that hits different now okay you go through something and you like feel it right but um we have an engaged question um for us as well for you guys what is your favorite catch the fire experience we just came off of our catch the fire book back drive we're getting ready to gear up for yes our thanksgiving drive so is there anything that stands out for you guys anything that stands out for you ref kelly that was like your like top moment my top moment um has always been catch the fire for thanksgiving um i was able to be a part of it when it was first incepted and i remember the excitement that we had when we gathered all of the materials you know from all of the giving that the body of church really gave you know the tooth brushes and the toothpaste you know i remember us going out even in the street and interviewing some of the homeless people and they let us know how much they appreciated all that we were able to do for them the sandwiches that we got the blankets that we got so catch the fire is not about us celebrating ourselves but it's about what god has commissioned all of us to do which is to give back to the community and having been a part of that having been out there on the street and watching and seeing all of the individuals who were able to benefit from what we did it gives you a sense of what god feels about us and how he loves us so much that even in spite of ourselves he's still able to pour into us and being able to pour into the community just made me feel like wow we are really doing the work that god has commissioned for us to do i love that this church love like that's that's something i love so much about this church is that we do catch the fire because we are in fact on fire for god like this is not a game this is not a joke we up here we're clowns sometimes but like it really is like true life and another way we're on fire for god at all times is because we're at the church that never sleeps we have a bunch of content coming up this week yes and for um yeah this week to come so yes so let's get started on what is coming up this week daniel well i know the business professional association they're always out there and for anyone who is an entrepreneur you want to be a part of this panel they've been talking about a book about leadership and we're talking about the principles and things that you need and you think in a business you are the leader you know you are the brand you are the representation and so they give us tips and tools of what we need in order to do that even better you know and i know that there's other things coming up like we have our recap that we have every monday and before our recap we have um minister maya or minnesota and pastor nick for that maximized monday then we have recap we have our focus ministry coming up we also have our um our wednesday night service yes we have a bunch of stuff coming up this week guys so we want to make sure that you guys stay in tune stay connected with us because like i said we are on fire for god and we want to catch the fire and more than just giving tangible things but also intangible things right because you got fresh friday and i know we got a nice video coming up this is for our young people our millennials come on and watch this fresh friday [Music] friday [Music] [Music] did you see jazz no doing all like this in the video i was hoping you didn't call me out lord of course i was going to call you out fresh friday y'all hear that song make sure you guys tune in make sure you guys tune into our fresh friday because we always have a good time we're always clowning and joking and throwing shade at each other it's the way we love on each other so yeah yeah that's still love but you know what we have communion tonight and we're excited because we get to drive up um this is our opportunity really to get to see each other and at the same time it's our first driving communion yes it is oh man yes and we're partaking of the lord's body and blood you know and they talk about the elements you know the little wafers and the juice and so if you want to be a part of what's happening here tonight we ask you to come on out join us at this time this is something that god had commanded all of us to do is to partake of his body and blood he said that we're supposed to do this often in remembrance of him and i'm so grateful that we're doing this that we're instituted this way because we've been away from the church for so long and have not been able to commune together but god has given us the opportunity tonight through our worship experience and also to be able to take his body and blood together so make sure you join us here's a clip right now yeah check out this video of brother kev yes hey bethany family is brother kevin here and as you can see we are out here for our first bible study out in the parking lot under the stars and this will not be the only time that we're out here you know we're out here for saturday driving service but we are also going to do our first communion in september out in the parking lot as well so we want you guys to come on out at 6 00 p.m and join us as we enjoy some more worship some more words and you also do that communion and you will have all the community elements so please make sure that you let everyone know your family your friends your neighbors your co-workers to join us for our communion in september see you then [Music] oh wow so we know that you're going to join us for communion service but right now we want to take care of all of your prayers absolutely bring them right to the altar yes prayer is our way of communicating with god and it's so simple that we can do it all you don't have to rely on me you don't have to rely on desiree but you're able even when we're not together to be able to call on him but sometimes we need people to come alongside of us and pray with us and for us believing god for us and the things that we're going through and so right now i want you to join me in prayer i want you to help me as i intercede not only for you but i want you to help me intercede for others father we thank you for the opportunity that you've given us to come together one more time just to give your name honor and to give your name glory god you've been so good to us you have been merciful you have spared our lives god you have comforted comforters in our time of weakness you have comforters god even in those things that we've been experiencing during this entire pandemic i feel like god that we are like the children of israel god where you have been the pillar of cloud by day and you have been our pillar of fire by night god that you have been behind us and that you have been in front of us and so father we give you praise and we give you honor and we give you glory for leading us and guiding us during the season and so father a few of us have gathered together on this line this morning god because we're standing in need of something from you we realize god that when we call on you things begin to change and that you're able to answer all things you said at the name of jesus that all of us god could feel your presence when we begin to call upon your name that when two or three of us are gathered together touching and agreeing father you promised us that you would be one in our midst and so father we have met that pre-wreck there is more than two or three of us and so father we ask right now that you will begin to bless us that you would begin father to give us those things that we're standing in need of for everyone that is streaming online this afternoon this morning father begin to touch on their lives god you know what the situation is i love the fact god that you have seen us in our best in god you have seen us in our words but yet god you still continue to love us anyhow and so father if we need a financial breakthrough give us the financial breakthrough if we need peace of mind god give us peace of mind god if we need to restore relationships god help us to restore those relationships god continue to protect us as we go traveling to and fro from the grocery store to our jobs god wherever we have to be father for those of us who are grieving on today those of us who have lost loved ones god i asked lord lord that you would go by in comfort as only you can allow this time in this situation to be the time that we draw closer to you i pray oh god for that one who wants to know you better i pray oh god that you will begin to invade their space right now i pray oh god that as the word of god they say read it lord that the pages that the words on it will lift up up off to them father god and would help them to see you more clearly i pray oh god right now for every leader god for everyone who is in charge of a church god who's in charge of a body of believers god i pray oh lord that you would give them wisdom and knowledge from on high how to navigate during the season how to hold the body of christ together i pray oh god that you would continue just to comfort our hearts continue to lead us in god as god continue to keep us wrapped up and connected together i pray oh god that you would help us even in our areas of disappointment god even in our areas of confusion even in those areas god we have no control over god we give it all to you thank you jesus and we trust you for the outcome this is your servant's prayer in jesus name amen amen amen amen and amen we love you guys yes thank god for you and for just being with us one more time we pray god's blessings for you as you enter into our 11a worship experience enjoy guys

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Published: Sun Sep 05 2021