"Navigating the Spirit Realm" | POWER HOUR | Ep.34

[Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Laughter] [Music] good afternoon par our family all around the globe and much love to us from us to you this afternoon we're so glad that you join us and you are alike and comfortable old slippers let me in that you know we feel connected and comfortable and I need you guys truly it's become a power our family don't be offended if what I call you comfortable old Ripper's it's a sign of endearment that we are enjoying this time together repetitively and genuinely I thought we would only go for three weeks and what did I know here we are seven eight weeks later and raring to go again on Friday he have four Fridays so yes wilds plans bearing in mind England has an lifted locked down but Scotland I mean we were still very much locked up here so how are you guys doing and what you got planned any news to report mm-hmm that was a face no except we have very big news drumroll we have a GPC covenant family quiz tomorrow night that Lindsey and Sam are organizing a forgot to say we are very competitive motivate motivated motor okay compelled relax the bigger family will know actually for every bigger family Alice has got three brothers and we big family and the cousins will join in as well and the grandparents have also been joining in but the bigger family in this house have lost every week we have another one on Sunday so we have Covenant family Saturday night and then is another question out this weekend covenant family is what we call our church membership here at glass through prophetic Center if you're wondering what she's talking about so we're going into quiz land so yes excited to be able to be the winning high-souled I'm really jumped in we just make not knowing well this afternoon we are going to look at navigating the spirit realm and mainly it is because I got in my hands here is pages of your questions and a gorgeous member of our team at Katrina took all the questions that you have been asking and chic elated them into like a book of questions so boy you lot are determined spiritually and I love that about you and really an articulate intelligent deep and meaningful questions that you guys have asked and Katrina with all her skills she put them in two sections so that we could make them and in a hi-low she must have spent hours on this I don't know how long she was not different but well done Katrina and and I had you know what I just have the most amazing staff on the planet I feel like the most blessed women we have an outstanding team here who work behind this minutes and and deliver a ministry and I tell you what there is good prophesying in and exorcising demons as they are at their admin and cleaning toilets so you know that's aquatic remarkable human beings so you will be an unsurprised to know that the EM section which is literally pages long is all about seeing in the spirit realm you wanted to know about seeing in the spirit realm more than anything else it so then I actually took a pen and I just started to underline when you said I want to know how to see in this spirit and I think I got writers cramp in underlining the number of times you'd asked that alone oh yes somebody said now I have another book try actually working on two other books at the moment I really want to write a comprehensive book on deliverance I think we need to know more maturely about deliverance ministry and demons very comprehensively so I'm working on that I think that might be my next one but anyway this morning let's not get distracted we are going to just chat more than teach about encountering Jesus and seen in the spirit realm you also ask I mean every underline the words angel how do I see an angel that is in here fairly repetitively I love these questions actually and and some of you will have to come and do schools of ours we're just about to upload and film some schools for you to download great detail but we're going to wait your appetite and give you some top tips today and so where will we start Sarah Jane do you want to pick us off because a lot of you are asking about the the words here s EE R and we'll start by looking at the difference between the seer and the Nabi let's start there and you're gonna have lots of top tips and lots of activations at the end of this so this might be a pen and paper one and as as we go great well great good morning everyone and yes we will go as slow as we can because this is a subject that we are very familiar with them and all of us have taught on over the years and and no it really inside out I guess so what natural and just second nature to us and is going to be brand new for some of you so feel free to to ask questions as we go and if we're not making it as clear as you would like and and so the important thing to note is that there are two types of profit and you're seeing two types of profit in front of you right now one is a seer capital S II er that is myself and and the other is an RB prophet and a bi Nabi and and you see two of them above you above my head Sam and ever they are dominant Nabi prophets so what did the two mean so in first chronicles 29 29 we see that they are both mentioned alongside each other the nabi prophet and the co-prophet there is Samuel the C and Nathan this sorry Samuel and Nathan who are reckoned instructed as Nabi prophets and GAD the seer and David King David who we know from the psalm writing he and was a king who had these prophets in his court and who were helping him rule and instruct and so 1st chronicles 29 29 is where you find that reference to the Nabi and the seer so they're both basically prophets but they're dominant in different ways of receiving revelation the seer receives revelation by sight seeing and sensing and the original Hebrew word for SIA is chose a and that you really don't need to know how to spell it but if you do it CH o se chose a and the pictorial language of that Hebrew chose a word is a a tent like this drawn basically like a tent like you might see now in camping and above that a scythe a cutting instrument of old that they would use to cut grass to cut wheat and to clear ground so those two symbols together basically mean a cutting of the veil between heaven and earth why do I say that because the tent sort of image is used to depict the stratosphere the the veil between heaven and earth and so we see that instrument and being used to cut so basically the Sierra prophet is somebody who opens up if you will the realm between the scene and the seen between the permanent this that what we see in the natural right now before us the tables the chairs the door the carpet before you and the invisible realm beyond the heaven realm or the spirit realm that we would call it the nabhi is dominantly one who receives revelation through words and Nabi means to bubble up and she flow forth so you'll hear Nabi prophets very often speak the Spirit of the Lord says and then this tumbling of words comes out of their mouth very easily because it's almost like they've hit if you will the the river of God that is on the inside of them that just comes out of their mouth so often seers are seeing and describing what they see for revelation and then interpreting that and Nabi prophets are just speaking forth the Spirit of the Lord says and so for both of us here we have learned to work in both the Nabi stream and this seeing realm so all of us here and sound myself an mo we operate both in the nabi of releasing words the spirit of the lord says and in seeing and and activating in the spirit realm so i'm saying to you that these two streams of revelation really come together in this pool and which we could all swim in and so we can swim in the revelation that comes from seeing in the spirit realm and we can swim in the revelation that comes from the nabhi bubbling up of words but these realms of revelation are distinctive to prophets but they are also open to anyone who is born in the spirit of god and so that i think i pass it back to you Emma in the sense of we can navigate this realm and if you're born of God and it's not just prophets that get to access the revelation yes and you can see the questions coming through can both work together can you have yes yes and yes okay but you will have a default setting you will have a default way that you hear from God and so Sam and I it's just like words words words words words and and it's not necessary that you feel or seen you just know and words and you just know and there may be no emotional experience that you're having you just know something so some of you will just know and you'll not be able to explain it any more than I just know okay and now almost signed a little bit dull in comparison to the seer which is where our emotions I feel I see I sense I have pictures okay and so we tend to find that find that the seers are much more emotionally orientated not always but they are because it's working with oh I I want to weep over that because I sends it like steer and I feel it whereas the nobbies are just a little bit more look here's just the light here's just a language here's just words I just know this I mean I just know this stuff you know and it just bubbles up so those at we are we're talking about two two weeks two extremes but you can be both and in in Glasgow prophetic Center we do train people to do both and to behave in both but mamrie watch you never see but they actually are great prophets and great people of Revelation and they know God well because they just know things there are are are deep inside okay and so and as I've pastored and lead both groups of people it's utterly fascinating to see the differences I think we think Oh Revelation is revelation is revelation know Revelation is not just revelation it comes in very different forms through very different personality types and who-who need very different things to feel good so I Sam and I as predominant wordsmiths predominant navvies you know and we must get on with it it Sears love workship they love the environment of and or whether space to feel and emotionally and woken up so but it's very easy to read scripture and figure out who is it who is in what category so for example let's have a little look you know Ezekiel is a seer oh I see wheels within wheels it's all about sight language you know that Isaiah is a seer you know I jesus honest a God on the throne and the Train of his robe fills the temple it's very pictorial by His stripes were healed you can almost feel the lashings of the whip on the back of Jesus it's so richly pictorial in high he is navigating at Revelation so M we have Zoe of sight and an emotion and feeling and sense and then we have just those who just know I just know I just have this sixth sense I just know this thing and this is what I feel God as I know God is saying and I just know it so you may be all along the spectrum but what I would like to train you it is to be able to do both and somebody is saying is there a difference between being a seer and being caught up into the spirit realm yes there is this this fear and the prophet are an are governmental anointings of God they they are your would be my comment on that who senior in the way that they steward that revelation but all of us can get caught up in this spirit realm now what I would like to add to this is really where we go to where we went yesterday in the scriptures in the New Testament that say fix your eyes on the unseen so alone then in the Old Testament we see the different ways that we perceive revelations by the New Testament there's the command look you locked out there fix your eyes and get on with sight you know so there is this sense that in the New Testament it's open to all would be what I mean by default setting a good questions keep we'll keep an eye on the questions default setting it's the standard way if I'm going to engage with God it standardly gonna be I'm just gonna know or I'm just gonna flow with it with language Sarah Jane her normal way her default way her original wiring is to see okay nice mr. Brown do not comment on that because you really and were such a strong I just know I'm you really moved into but it was work for you to move into visions it was work for you to start to dream it was work for you to see in the spirit it wasn't your natural start point and so I think that's where we need to go because that's what the questions are all about your natural start point hmm yes so that as Emma says it wasn't my natural start point I've always kind of been Nabi in terms of bubbling up and not being at the way that I would prophesy was always through that vehicle and I think it the first thing that I would want to say to you is don't get too confused or complex about this and not they are very different and you're either one or you're the other and there's no space in between there's no cross over what we're seeing as you you all will have a way that you tend to enter into prophesy so for some of you when you stand in front of someone or you are listening to God for yourself you will automatically be looking for a picture for others of you you will automatically go and you will begin to look for words or for a saint or for annoying insane no just because that's the first thing you do does not mean that you can't then enter into the lighter waters of Revelation that God has made available to you all by his Spirit that is with em so for me I started there being Nabi and that would be where I was dominant and to be honest I didn't venture outside of that because I think in my mind I'm in a separate people Nabi and fear as two separate entities but I could only ever be one and not the other so I really have to start to train myself and interstate when I realized that it was and something that I could offer II and know the biggest challenge came because I was surrounded by people like Sarah Jane who were who's able to see in so much detail that I expected my entry into seeing in the spirit to be at the level that she had trained herself to see for a decade and actually when you're entering and to seeing in the spirit realm at you me just by the hand of God see at that sort of level but for most of us you wouldn't so you have to became to yourself so for me it would start very simply with closure item and Jesus described to me what you look like describe to me what you look like in the room and I wouldn't see him with my eyes or even see him with my mind's eye but there would be a description or you're waiting next color your and there's there's the shape you've got des in your hand and so there would be a picture slowly but surely that God would paint onto my mind's eye and then I would start to continue God can you show me the colors in my mind that you are waiting or that are around you and so I would start to just see the colors you know there's blue today because he's talking about Holy Spirit revelation or I can see gold is God you're talking about glory and I would start to see colors and that would then be a little bit more of a journey and then God can you start to show me some shapes can you start to show me the shapes and the outlines of how you look what of hope the different things around you are of what and your hands of what you're caddying and so I be seeing shapes and I'd be seeing colors and that was time he got can you show me some more detail I want to see the texture on your garments what's the texture like I want to start to feel what that looks like and so you see that the journey for me to see was one that was highly intentional it wasn't just I happen to partner I all of a sudden arrived and say I had to be intentional and training myself to see particularly for those of you and the Western world who are trained that logic as the ultimate logic and straight lanes are the ultimate that we meet now actually you have to train your imagination to come back into the hands of God where he can then breathe on you with color with visions with pictures worth with shapes and with all that and it's slowly but surely am i moved and to then being able to see with my eyes open having s seer encounters where I would say although I'm a dominant seer just like all three of us now I think we operate and them both equally and something almost more seared and and these days protecting my personal things with God then nabhi the nabhi is my dominant when it comes to prophesy so did you did you hear there what Sam was saying that although there is a sense of well sometimes I just know something that we have been in kinetic center hugely intentional hugely intentional to practice this and that in the spirit realm God is not stingy God is not there to to lock you out of anything he wants to lead you into more and he wants revelation to be natural and normal for you and so the practice and intentionality is a massive part of this it doesn't just happen or it's rare that it just happens and so if you're waiting on oh god I'm ready I'm ready I'm ready for the site oh I'm ready oh I'm ready for the vision oh I'm ready to be caught up in this spirit it is unlikely to happen like that though it can do it is much more likely that you will be a little bit like Jeremiah and I think we have to learn a couple of things about ourselves and from the lifestyle of Jeremiah and the first thing is you and I are probably much too formal with God we are hearing you are probably not too informal with God and we tend to think that there is a lot of protocol around heaven and we forget that Jesus Christ is our best friend and that the atmosphere of heaven is predominantly a family atmosphere so whilst you like to think of formality and protocol that is just not what we find in family dynamics nie there's hierarchy is God is the boss but the hierarchy that you get with a daddy not the hierarchy that you get you know in in some organizations on the earth where is yes or no sir and you you feel you know a lesser being but actually you got to think of your relationship much more in the context of I can run up into his knee which is why Rose talks about and come boldly before the throne of grace the instruction that you are coming into a family dynamic and therefore we do need Michelle Smith you are right we need delivered from a formality in how we think about Jesus and Jesus is not a B is not a protocol person and yet you and I think that we have got to go through some and oh listen you and I will all have little secret protocols about how we approach Jesus well I've not done repentance yet well I've not I've not done this I've not prayed for my family that I'm not so therefore you know and that list that we put in front of ourselves or that we feel we ought to or we should get through before there can any there can be any further interaction interaction with Christ and that is absolute nonsense you know you run boldly before the throne of grace and actually the only biblical instruction apart from the fact that you need to be bold is to enter his courts with Thanksgiving and of course Thanksgiving has a little bit of a giddiness about it doesn't it so I come with bold courage and I come with Thanksgiving that completely changes the tone of how you meet with your God not are there moments yes I step in from your toes but are there moments of reverential fear and awe absolutely there are but but always within the context of a family garden know when we go to the life of Jeremiah this is remarkable Jeremiah is a kid and of course there in Chapter one it talks about air - Jeremiah you know don't let people despise you because of your youth how old do they think he was sad 14 14 Sam is a bit of a Jeremiah export partly cuz he's a Jeremiah prophet but you've written essays and preached multiple sermons on Jeremiah so I'm kind of stealing you can you could take over for me on Jeremiah but Jeremiah is one teen years old when told Jeremiah 1 verse 10 is it Sam you know that you can you're going to build up and you're going to tear down nations okay and so here in chapter 1 we have God in fatherly coaching mode what do you and I know about fourteen-year-old boys because I've got one concentration the concentration span of a gnat to try to get them focused on anything it's a complete life skill you know what did you do to take nothing why are you fine with skill fine fine like fine is the words their vocabulary it's a lotta mites my 14 oldest your I am battling the word fine in this house the I want you to replace the word fine with the word glorious and he's like oh you're so annoying mom you know I feel like I've succeeded disappearance when I'm annoying so um you're lovable are you this morning glorious you know begrudgingly glorious you know so what we're talking why do I paint that picture that's the age and stage of Jeremiah this this is not a thirty year old guy who's learned the art of Revelation and he's got no life experience he has no experience of the spirit realm really whatsoever of 14 and so God has saved him Jonah Jeremiah Jeremiah what do you see don't you love it don't you love the coaching you lord what is it you see Jeremiah and as oh oh I'm supposed to be seeing something I got a minute I got a minute you know leave your kicks in you know and uh I see a Naaman tree you know and it's not particularly remarkable revelation oh I was supposed to be seen it's a nama tree is Lama tree and yes you know on what do you see Jeremiah and here we go again I'm coaching you what do you see boiling pot from the north you know and so there is this wonderful this in scripture where you and I can be actually quite dull and quite spiritually pathetic on occasions but here it is father God's in coach mode a coaching mode what do you think about that what do you see about that you know what our witness and so it is much less of I sit and I have a sovereign experience and God invades my thanks it is much more what do you want me to sing Oh what do you see here oh god what are you were with this oh let's have a look over here it is much more conversational much more relational and much more interactive than you and I have ever thought it was to see in this group Rob is why in Ezekiel 8 and yes it is he kills in the middle of a vision and he's actually being caught up by the hair and so I love that you know that clearly is he kill is not paying attention and God reaches in and grabs him by the hair and those right you need to start paying attention it's like that sense of God saying come on pay attention Ezekiel and then in Ezekiel 8 he stops and godness start digging through that wall and that sense that he's got to work to see he's digging he's digging his digging he's digging his digging saimin is when a sense of I've got to push in for the revelation I will God what more do you want me to see if you know I don't know say a big snooker table descends into your midst you go to Ezekiel 8 what does this mean God why are you showing me this is there more I've got to see I'm gonna start to dig for revelation like is me kilted in the middle of the vision or in the middle of encounter you lose your formality and get relational so I'm digging for the revelation same concepts in Daniel chapter 7 and it says I looked again I looked again I looked again so he's got a little hint of something but the relationship is like well or I see nine and I'm looking again and I'm looking again in case I've missed something you know and you see very normal ordinariness of these prophets who are extraordinary in their revelation but they're ordinary in their humanity and ordinary in this sense of well I just I'm gonna I'm gonna keep looking and I'm gonna keep looking and I'm gonna keep cooking and I'm gonna dig a little bit and I'm gonna ask questions if you do not ask questions you will not progress in any spirit adventure ask questions why are you showing this to me God what do you want me to see God what do you want me to see today God what is happening in this spirit realm god what is happening over my family God show me you know if you do not ask you will not have what the word ago say you have not because you ask not and that is not a one time God I would like a spiritual gift once okay it is a lifestyle of questions absolutely son expert but you see you see that play in Jeremiah's life and so you have that chapter chapter one the training the early days training of his prophetic gift and he actually grew up and an area where it was known as still as known for almond growing for almond trees and so God took a very ordinary object a very ordinary branch of a tree that Jeremiah knew everything about and he blew on a revelation that would then hold Jeremiah for years to come of a rod of arm and he saw every single day of his whole entire life anyway and he would see that same rod of almond for every other day that way on after but this very simple picture as God started to Train Jeremiah this very almost one-dimensional or 2d picture that God gave Jeremiah became this wild adventure of finding out what God was saying but really and that particular passage you see him being trained to the point that where Jeremiah then gets called in Jeremiah named team to go to the potter's house that interpreting revelation and asking questions as instinctive to him so he just has to look at the potter's house and he knows straightaway what God is saying he just has to look at the wheel and he knows straightaway what God is saying he just has to look at the mess that is made then he knows straight away what God is saying because over years and that's there's decades and between those incidents that actually that there as years of training prayer automatically almond not alum almond ALM or Indian Scottish even I do almond tayo suggests here I mean and it's got a Lin it almonds oh yeah well not not we'll call it and actually that as soon as he sees a picture he knows how to interpret that straight away and so that takes time over years of training of questions and honestly that I know it sounds almost to a sample but as when it comes to seeing in the spirit realm questions questions questions you can never ask enough questions of a-all of God and all is showing you I mean you know I used to ask my mom and dad make fun of me from being a child of asking them so many questions and what about that card and what about this over here and what about that over there and why is it called that and why is it that color but that's how you wear as a child and saw it as when you're seeing in this better you can never ask enough questions and God trained you in that and it goes from the place where you have to be super intentional you have to try really hard and over time you train yourself into the point whether it's just instinctive to you as who you are you automatically just go to that place of asking and answering questions with God and 30 I'm gonna jump to you to give us some activation because I mean you've written more activations and most people just because you've trained so many seers over the years just to give us some things that we can practice at home but let me tell you something that happened to me and yesterday before we jump into that I'm sitting on my thirty over here where I do lots of her praying and I suppose because we're caught up and in the spirit realm there's so many times we have such a history of that that I sit there and I expect to go I expect to go up you know and I can picture the places that I've already been to well I was shocked to my knees literally because I was expecting to go up and I close my eyes and talk to God you know what just show me today and where are we going and and what you want me to see and hi are you God and close your heart you know if you ever gasp got Heidi is because you asked your friend is that so why wouldn't you ask your best friend got that you know how high are you what you up to and what's your heart weren't you excited and we're just in that kind of we're just beginning a chitchat that I would have with any of my friends you know is that it that's how it should be and and I I think something's different something's different this is yesterday so over my eyes and God is right in front of me and he's comes rather me go up he's come down and I read were low what are you doing what are you doing you're right my space you know which is but I was just a little bit shocked so of course he's like come and have a look and I'm like what so he is well one half of my room I'm a nice way to eat and as I put my face forward like I'm about to guide my chair to move I hit what can only be described as like a meniscus a force field in front of me and as soon as I put my face through it I've only moved like millimeters as soon as I put my face through it my face is in the spirit realm and my back of my body is clearly on planet Earth but my face is in the spirit realm and God is in the spirit I push my face through the meniscus layer and I'm like oh my goodness and because in heaven when you read descriptions of it read a lot of my colors you eat a lot of like movement you read a lot of things that look like they are on fire in different ways so when you see interest but you expecting movement you're expecting a lot of color you're expecting a lot of things that burn and God says this is how I see your room and I put my face through and suddenly everything is burning but burning in a contained way in different colors everything and I look at my Bible and the it is burning red like glorious red but the Bible is on fire sitting on my desk here where always sits and it's burning fire and then I have a look around and the books are burning different colors according to the different truths that are in them and everything is colored by what it carries everything is colored by what it will do for me and of course my makeup bag which always sits beside my Bible on my dad you know here we go and what comes up and and go saying you know that doesn't clearly burn the same color as other truths that's warm you need to watch and then you know because of course you don't want to become too cosmetic and then my computer is burning a different color why because actually it's not all that comes through the computer screen is good for us and so I'm looking around my room and I go oh my goodness you see the world completely differently God different colors and hues and movements of being in this spirit realm and that was one moment of of one encounter and there was a forgotten his name the antipodean prophet who died not that long ago the older guy his name he's the only prophet who had the veil between the natural and the supernatural completely disappear and is that for a only live like that for a few months you said it nearly blew his brains but he never Johnson no I think he died last year my husband's typing it into the comment I Bob Jones did a lot of this kind of stuff as well so did Paul Kane but the antipathy and profit and although I think it was born in Britain was Neville Johnson and he would say he could see fear as a color on people for up to 5 miles it was the most dominant of all the emotions and that kind of question you know can a demon read your mind or can an angel read your mind was completely immature and obsolete because it was obvious what you were carrying in the spirit realm because of what we're going what was going on there and so these are kind of the things that we want to get you towards these kind of daily we're actually please please please do not be seduced by the spectacular I want you to be comfortable with the supernatural there's a massive difference rather rather adduction by the Supra neither spectacular but comfortable in the supernatural we must be comfortable in the supernatural Sarah Jenga give us some top tips compacted some guidelines about it yeah I think I mean there's so much we could say isn't there about all of all of this experience and realm but I think what's really important to remember and to acknowledge is that many people get stuck when we try and make it a functional gift you know how can I see so that I can do something or so that I know something and actually it's so important to get this and in our spirits that it is a relational a relational access and key to the spirit realm just as Emma and Sam have been talking about the relational the conversational the experiential with the relationship with God and it all begins from that place of intimacy so if you really want to experience more of what is available to us as the sons of God and the children of God then we spend more time in worship we spend more time in intimacy and cultivating that to access the more that he has for us because that's like we were saying yesterday that's our home that's our natural atmosphere it's our natural place of being because we are spirit beings first we are spirit and flesh therefore this is our environment and so the more we focus our gaze on seeking first the kingdom as we're instructed in Matthew the as we seek the face seek my face jesus said seek my face and seek my kingdom the more we do that the more that realm opens up to us and it won't just break through in little little ways but it will it will open up as if almost like on a stage at the theater that that veil opens up and everything becomes very real to us and so I'm I was so encouraged to hear you say what you just said Emma this morning because yesterday when we were praying over the nation's the Lord showed us that this era is an era of him revealing himself Jesus himself in a new way and he said this is the era of Jesus being Lord and being revealed as Jesus the light bearer this light subject that we've been on so much but what I was seeing was things like translations you might want to experience explain this in a minute and translations traveling in the spirit like Ezekiel did like John did in in Revelation and Paul alludes to you know a man who may have gone in his body or in the spirit I do not know you remember that that scripture this sense of the translations being very much fringe and mystical on the edge of the church that God is bringing in this decade more central that this sort of moving but Queen realm so Emma just experienced explained of putting your face ahead of you if you will and moving beyond and actually Karen Brown you asked about portals openings we would say doors doors to the spirit realm I'm gonna give you an activation for that in a minute doors from this realm of the earth and the scene realm into the unseen realm openings that will be right there in front of our face that we can see right in front of our face just as Emma described there and that will be more normal and so I believe we're moving to this era where the the movement between the angelic coming into our realm and being aware of them and as as as the children of God and the sons of God moving into the spirit realm will become more obvious and more central and we will experience that as the people of God more regularly and it will be less fringe and so we need to get a hold of this but how we get a hold of it is knowing God more and so I would encourage you how I got here and initially was praying and Ephesians 1:17 God you know I pray for the spirit of wisdom and revelation so that I can know you more God I want to know you more I want to know your ways I want to see you God I want to see you more and understand more of you and just get to know you if that becomes your prayer and even that song knowing you Jesus knowing you you know the chorus and I want to know you more I want to see you I want to see your face let that be your prayer because that will open up that veil and so an activation for this what do we mean by activation basically a key a hook if you will to focus your your spirit eyes to focus your spirit gaze on getting to the place of understanding Lord and this this spirit realm that's available to me how do I access it so one of them that we've used very often would be the door so you read in revelation one and about the John being in the spirit and then this door opens up and God's voice says come up here as but he sees this door opening up in the spirit some people say portal but the the scripture very much says this draw away opens up and so one activation that we find really helpful is to say okay you've quiet in yourself you focused yourself it might be that you've got worship music on for many of us that really helps just quiet worship music on to focus your spiritual senses and say Holy Spirit or Jesus can you show me the door that is in front of me right now what is the door that you've opened up in the spirit realm that is giving me access to something today and as you do that I'm sorry I'm just but in there because you couldn't you confine your of the confusion rinder bite let me be really really really clear on this this is biblically normal this is biblically natural stuff this is what we see laced through the Bible from Genesis to Revelation encounters heavenly encounters visitations being caught up being moved by God open spiritually this is more biblically normal in in its quantity than something like laying right beginning and we have all lay night Gideon so God do you want me to do this or do you want me to do that we've all asked those questions and yet that kind of concept of Gideon's fleece is once in Scripture and yet seeing and hearing and feeling and having spiritual encounters is ladened through the scripture why isn't it spoken of the church because I think through the Enlightenment and in the 17th century we threw out the supernatural from the church and we enshrined an academia and a Greek thinking in place of what was biblically normal and we are getting back what is biblically normal we are talking about living you know myself so I know somebody wrote the comments about snake oil no this is biblically normal stuff that's what impulsing searching its biblically normal stuff now here you listen to Sarah Jane really carefully here because if we do this ourselves if we make ourselves travel stone us if we generate the encounter last is wrong and the New Agers do that and that is called astral projection we don't want to get caught up in that these are God led God inspired God's ways of communicating with his people and so what we do is we ask questions and it is up to God how he wants to answer it is up to God how he wants to lead us it is up to God how he wants to take us but we start relationally by asking questions okay so as you listen to Sarah Jane this is not magic this is not you know some kind of trick if you do this you know because that's witchcraft you are in a relationship with an encounter orientated gods and you are asking questions there are top tips from us well you know how do you get started because your questions I mean millions of them have millions quite a number how do you get started okay and so these are the ways we get started we ask God questions so Sarah Jane sorry to interrupt it was a lot okay lately I think tell us what the questions are yeah I wasn't and I wasn't following the questions as I was speaking so thanks for that and I just you know I really feel that I feel the emotion of that as you're sharing it because I feel like you know as to church we've been we've been blindsided by the new age and and so much of the the gifts and the inheritance of the children of God has been locked up because of fear because of mistrust and actually you know that makes me want to weep because so many of us have not had the fullness of the experience that God wants us to have in relationship with him remember it's relational not functional if this ever becomes functional because to get something then we're like they forgot his name the guy that went around asking pop you know pop Peter how do i how do I do what you do you know I'm gonna pay you and you show me heat how to do that you know there's a sense of actually that that's the functional transactional there's nothing functional there's nothing transactional about this it's all to do with a relationship and I had two years after being baptized even before I was baptized in the Holy Spirit of praying God open the eyes of my heart that I may see you because I just wanted to know God more that's what drove me was the relationship because it's all about him it's all about him and you can hear and feel the emotion that's why Sears is so you know strange because we feel it and we because we love God and we just want to be with him if you're ever in the functional then go back to the basics and begin again you know start over but if you look at revelation 4 and so John has had his encounter and he's had the letters scribed to the 7 churches and then he's still looking and it says in in chapter 4 of Revelation verse 1 after this I looked and there before me was a door standing open in heaven it wasn't on the earth it was in heaven he was seeing it and the voice I had first heard speaking to me like a trumpet said come up here and I will show you what must take place after this so there's this continuing interaction he's heard the voice is already in Chapter 1 of Revelation turned to see the voice and seeing Jesus and then we keep developing and there's more because then this door opens so there's a door in the spirit before John and so you you want to ask the Lord okay god what door is open before me right now in my life what are you opening up to me what do you want to show me and there is this door that is available to you that is open to you and everybody has different experiences with this activation all of this question that is asked and as God begins to show you the door you may see things in front of the door you may see even your your angel you may see some objects you may see some things that Holy Spirit wants to draw your attention to so do what Emma was saying earlier and Sam asked the questions what are you showing me why are you showing me this what does this mean God you know or offer some the door is there freely standing with nothing in front of it and then you might ask you know is it okay to go through the door you know is it okay to to move beyond this place that I'm in now to move over the threshold is the door open or is it closed and you begin a conversation with God and you get to the place where you can freely move through that door and this may take some time to actually go through this activation when we're doing it live would take 10 15 15 minutes to just go through so give yourself time to actually and go through this with the Lord so you're asking these questions what door is open before me is it okay to go through this door or if there are some things in front of the door ask the Lord what they are and why they're there and then you move across the threshold when it's safe to do so and then you move into something like Emma was explaining you move beyond where you are now into another place into another realm into another room in the spirit and then you begin to ask what are you showing me here why are you showing me this you know what is going on in this place often people move into a spacious place like a garden or a field or another room if tight place and there are things that the Lord would want to show you there and we would say don't be afraid to ask questions this is about knowing God it's about knowing his ways and he's just wanting to share with you what is is close to his heart for your life and for for what you're called to and often it's extremely personal it's all about you and as well as it's all about God and sometimes you will see Jesus and it will be Jesus and what do you want to speak to me about what do you want to share with me and so I would just encourage you to be open ask the questions and if you're at all and she read revelation from chapter 1 through to chapter 7 and just get yourself immersed in the language of heaven and the language of Revelation so that it becomes more familiar to you because just as what Emma was saying we've spent years reading Ezekiel years reading daniel years reading revelation getting used to the language which is very much I looked and I saw and so you you have this interaction and Daniel asks a lot of questions in Revelation so get familiar with the Bible and the language of the seer and the seen realm if you're at all unsure and you want to navigate it there will be some potential invisible blocks you may have fear which you will need to be dealt with if you're struggling to access this this realm of seeing you may have trust issues with God or trust issues with other people that need resolved and there'll be a journey to go on there and there may even be in your in your previous history you may have accessed the occult realm knowingly or unknowingly and so some of these things may be blocks to accessing that which you will need to go on a journey of working with Holy Spirit and you may need help doing that and so I again would encourage you you know and let us help you with more detailed teaching but I think immerse yourself in the Word of God and yourself in the books of Ezekiel Jeremiah Daniel and and the first chapters of Revelation which will help you enormous Lee and above all remember it's just about knowing God more if you get that you will go there naturally it won't take it won't take anything so challenging so really think that's probably enough very good very good so God show me a door what do you want to show me where does it lead what are you opening up to me and we start to ask questions what do I need to see a top tip it would be sometimes we can get accidentally a little bit idolatrous about gifting and we idolize the gift more than we would then we are preoccupied with the encounter that is really an Achilles heel for people working in this Oprah oh you saw wow you're so special Wow you saw you know an actually how we we wouldn't we don't want to be those people remember I talked about being comfortable with the supernatural rather than seduced by the spectacular and one of the ways that we deal with that is we asked Jesus's question why are you showing me this and what would you like me to know and as the very second we go into what would you like me to know what would you like me to know it is not like I saw Wow me it is about oh hang on I am learning and I am encountering what would you like me to know is one of those killer questions that take you out of idolatry into well look at me you know I just have this experience and it takes a out of the experience into the realm of where I'm training and learning through an encounter with Christ what would you like me to know is it mostly for others know what the encounters are mostly for you encounters are mostly for your heart before Christ in conscious sometimes we we do share them we share them but they are and they're mainly for our deepening of our [ __ ] with Christ okay and another couple of top tips and Sam then you can share your top tips and pray talk to other people about them I've seen this I've felt this I felt like I learned this I do not ever say to somebody I just saw this you must know why you must know why you saw it why were you showing me this Jesus what would you like me to know and get somebody else to test it you are part of a family you are learning from the family of God in the family of saints on the earth get it tested okay run it beside a you know alongside somebody and see what they say somebody who is a good editor in your life everybody needs a good life editor who can say did you really tell me that again now what are you learning through that okay and that keeps you you've got to find a community no it's not always personal but these encounters at Sharon are good questions are mostly personal because they're to do with relationship some do you unpack as we finish Hebrews 5:14 sorry your scientists signed there's a better I actually had Hebrews 5:14 on my top taps mr. chair with you as our fate one of her favorites solid written for the mature who by virtue of practice have trained their senses to distinguish between good or evil as what Hebrews 5:14 can you can you just read that again because it's so key is right so solid fit so the weighty substances of God's solid food is for the mature so then the verse says okay so how are you mature Nessie's this is where it really kind of flaps our concept of maturity on its head so solid food is for the mature who by virtue of practice have trained their senses to distinguish between goods from evil or by constant use once there one translation says by constant use have trained their senses to distinguish between good or evil and so if you want the solid food want the latest substances of God the laity encounters you start by developing the virtue of practice by giving yourself to practice and you do that by factoring practice time end to every single day of your life where you're saying look I'm gonna get myself to this adventure of knowing you more gods and of encountering you more and you train your senses and you start to see what am I feeling what am i sensing what am i seeing God train my senses wake up my senses and the seer gift seeing in this better it's not just about sight it's about emotions it's about feeling that's about all your saints he's coming alive to God so you start to ask him what do you smell like what do you feel like what's the taste what can I see what can I sense around you that all your senses start to get engaged with who God as if I could give you another top tap and not that kind of a caveat of practice as this is not a race to see how quickly you can get to the end of a journey of the of the of the road is a lifelong journey of encounter and devotion and my top tip would be this savor every moment with Jesus do not rush the process allow yourself with each encounter not just to get head knowledge but to fall more in love with Jesus and to become more devoted to him it is not erase take your time enjoy savor every moment you're on a life long journey it's not a hundred meter sprint so do not rush the process you want to savor every moment and sometimes it's like I see I saw so I saw so I want a rush I think I can tell as many people as possible stay with Jesus Langer stay where he is wait with him and enjoy the journey don't rush over and as that actually as you go slowly and you go up the pace of Jesus your life becomes an encounter with him rather than moments your whole life becomes an encounter so that be my top tap and shall we finish oh yeah things cuz my goodness the comments have blown up this morning you know what it burnt partly it makes me want to cry because oh we're so dull abite some basic spiritual issues aren't we and what is leading through Scripture is so alien to us how can only be so familiar with the Word of God and yet so far away from its practices we read it like it's some kind of fairytale book that has no application to our lives in terms of what's normal in Scripture should be normal for me and so you get the crazy comments you know about us being in witchcraft this morning which it makes me giggle because actually we love the Word of God and this is what is normal in Scripture so therefore it must be normal to us and makes me giggle in that scripture some because it's a wild we don't even know what to do with it he was five 14 the word sentences you train your missus and we're like we thought are good we thought you know training our sentences was pure evil you know helping in traditional churches and yet there's a verse that says train your senses you know it's right in the book and we're all I'm like whoa whoa whoa is that right and we've not bothered to read this scripture says train your senses you know know what's going on and what makes me laugh as well is this you and I family on Facebook and YouTube land we're gonna be living forever in this realm I mean you've only got a few short years on earth but you're forever your forever is in the realm of the Spirit because you are a spirit you're essentially a spirit okay so you better get used to interacting with the spirit realm or the afterlife in eternity is going to be a little bit of a shock to you okay o m and somebody's saying are we doing online at training yes in fact and just to let you in behind the wall into the world of our battle plans salmon Sarah Jane and I are currently actually brainstorming lots of online courses and in June we are going to be like recording ninjas and we're going to be recording lots and lots of skills so that you can actually download whole teaching because some of the suffrage is touching so surface level in these last thirty however many are that actually you really need probably to sit in courses of a sere school for a few hours or profits to go or deliverance skills so that you actually can and will be recording those and so that you can actually download whole schools and that's the plan anyway on part what will become par TV so I mean we're not going anywhere will there be certificates I hadn't really thought about it I'm quite sure we could we could make one yes so at lots lots more of a journey to go so just remember what we have said you want to pray to be biblically normal you want to ask relationally good questions but you want to show me take me to a door what's on the other side and you want to kill your peculiar formality that God has never asked you to become that formal and if somebody saying they love a sticker and a certificate yes not like a security certificate waiting is right okay so and different people are wired for different things and I'd rather have a cake a cake given to me on completing of course but anyway so well happy Friday and happy weekend go and do some homework to kill kill your formality and start to ask some site questions and we will be back with you again we take a long weekend because we need it and we will be gloriously joyfully back with you next to use day Tuesday Oh somebody did say do I cover some of this stuff in the book I do if you've not got it there is a chapter that looks at translations third heaven ters David just type I did put that in here didn't I trances translation search ever encounters partnering with angels - I put the partnering with angels and here David can you type in the comments he added today yes it definitely isn't here so there there is a chapter on that and in there so we will see you on Tuesday bye [Music]

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