**MUST WATCH SATSANG** The Mystery of Awakening!

[Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] you [Music] [Music] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Music] I'm very sorry for this interruption I forgot to say one important thing today it's about tomorrow tomorrow at 3:30 Mooji Baba will be in the hall here with us to offer a silent or guided meditation and these usually lasts around 45 minutes to 1 hour we'll tell you more about it tomorrow but I know some people who come to the satsang they're not looking on the internet and it's important that I tell you we just decided this this morning that tomorrow 3:30 there'll be a meditation here with Mooji Baba so sorry for the interruption [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] you [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] Oh namaste welcome everyone to satsang this morning here in Rishikesh thank you and welcome of course to all who are joining us via broadcasting for today's satsang thank you I will take a little time today to look through some of the letters that's also coming in from the online participants particularly we will make some space for that okay let me hear what you say but thank you thank you I need to expose something so I wanted to write you a letter because it felt easier but thank you for giving me the courage to be here I'm fully here with you and I have many challenges every day but I'm happy to be here habit about to come home I see all my attachments especially to my daughter I have a daughter she's 9 and I feel it's a struggle being here and being far away from her but I feel this is true and you feel or what is true that I'm here for this and you feel or you know I know ok I know and then thoughts arise like maybe I'm not a good mother we know who says that don't we yes I feel so blessed to be here to be able to come and for all of us to be in this space with you you show us so much love and I see so much purity in you I feel that if we are all open-hearted we can all see it very easily yes you I will take this point if we are genuinely open-hearted genuinely open-hearted and the deepest wish the purest urge or desire in you is to awaken to that which is timelessly true and then of course what could be an obstacle we know of course that mind in the play of identity desire attachment and all of that which is connected to personal identity it's going to come up and seemingly more powerful because of your your choice for freedom you see you will notice it if you are still asleep meaning that you are deeply identified with a personal life and so on you probably won't notice mind you see because you are cooperating like that but as soon as it arises within you the urge to be free from the the hypnosis of personal conditioning from the psychological identity you begin to notice mind changes color it starts to be more as though attacking or criticizing or reminding you you are not ready not good or something is coming and some people initially are put off by that they see more go to fool I won't they may even pray to the mind please please please have mercy on me don't give me any more trouble and then they go back we are fine but if you are one of them who have the courage and the power to press on say yes in fact this very attack is an indication that I'm on to something and now the energies of resistances are coming you may come to a certain point when you just know however throw your best punch but I must find this this one will go through for sure you see in your case you mentioned also of course being a mum away from your daughter I don't think she's on her own no she's with her dad who is approves me being here ooh who disapproves disapprove here yes it's all a part of the play it's all a part in the whole world is not gonna go darling go along comes out we want you we'd love to live in a world where I feel where even every government says to its people every year we must send you know a million of our people to satsang to increase and improve our nation but I don't think it's gonna happen okay so you came here by your own some urge some power is motivating your being to go in search of its own source so you are the one giving me courage and love and everything reminding you of the love and the courage in you to to make those steps and to complete this great opportunity that life brings to come home and to be home and still be your physical body will still be here the senses will be here the capacity to use your mind with but it will be under a new government you know it will be directed from a new center where you are not a prisoner you're not a prisoner you'll you will see with godly eyes and godly senses yes but before you reach this place you're perhaps experienced not perhaps very likely experienced a lot of resistance will come and the resistance will come some much of it from what we have imbibed in our life many things that we are believed that we're not true but they will come to the surface and they will seem to somehow challenge you know their contest the things that you are discovering now and we see how you how you make out with that they are happening already seems so years uh-huh so what is happening challenges but they feel stronger yes yes you now understand that these challenges can be for your strength also not for your weakness if the challenges come and your in your person you will experience a sense of becoming weakened by it frustrated you know not discouraged even if you are holding on to personal identity but the minute something sparks in you and you have taste you know the the immensity of what really exists in you as soon as that happened you see and then you start to use the things that feel like challenges or even attacks you will turn them to your advantage there become steps for you to somehow raise to higher altitudes of consciousness let's keep it simple like this you see but what we call challenges will come how do you go beyond challenges also faith comes in something you must feel I am NOT just this person on a little journey may be forgotten by the whole trotting through the sludge of the mind to get to the self no grace is with you yes when you open up to grace when you open up to grace mmm yes you open up to universal consciousness your life becomes wind assisted Martin Maher grace this Trust is very important you see a lady came here a little while ago in the first round of satsangs and we were told now that she has terminal illness and she will probably be listening to this satsangh also I don't mind to share don't think she minds and so she came with her husband and they came and I saw her privately and I made blessing prayers with her that not only will I cannot help but also ask physical healing also but also healing in the mind and the spirit and somehow that she comes to that recognition of her timelessness I did but when she left afterwards something felt inside my heart and I had to give a message to one of the Sangha here who knew her from the thing from cannabis Sangha to say please tell her from me I think I even sent voice recording to say I made prayer for you the blessing for you but you you must not be thinking about dying you must not be thinking because somehow I feel the grace of the self is being brought you must open up and accept the prayer except that when you do this then it can flow in you and now the grace is waiting at your door are you going to open up to that so don't pray or please do this for me to do this me I'm not saying she's asking like that but sometimes people ask please bless me please bless me this this this and that is not bad it's better than being negative you're asking for blessing this is a good thing but also sometimes you must make the first move to show that this is true for you and then the grace comes the power come boldness come you see and and carry what needs to be carried along the way we are still speaking largely about movements and changes in the phenomenon realm in the realm of personhood and life how life flows but those who come to satsang are not going to get stuck on life situations they are always going to come to a point that whatever happened in the life of the mind and the senses and identity this is simply an appearance inside the infinite consciousness that stillness not as an idea they will know it intimately they will see always everything is moving everything is moving inside a great stillness and they are themselves located as an in that stillness this is what is the result of your your earnestness in satsang and it need not take years and years and years it could take years and years it could take lifetimes but in need not I say that some people this very day you will cross over from time into timelessness the exposing that you want to talk about is the attachment to the daughter or your you know yes and also that I'm just thinking how to say it are you sure you have not escaped into the internet now and finding it difficult to talk about the finite sometimes it can happen it's somehow everything is gone and then you think I'm asking you to describe your dynamic situation which now doesn't exist and then if they are let me see yes let me try attachment to the situation at home yes attachment to the situation even right now in this instant no but I needed your guidance for a practical reason the practical reason the cause of that attachment is sometimes fear or so yes sometimes we we have love but easily can slip and have add-on add-on attachment and it feels almost unavoidable that the mother's love father's love grows into attachment to the state to the extent that there's fear fear means really also we have less trust in life that life takes care of life if you are moving in your own righteousness not egoic righteous and if you're moving in righteousness your aspirations is for the highest good which includes the good of your family and all as much as your open hmm then trust must also come but then the mind the fearful mind you know which you must overcome also is telling you you know what what if what if yes yes because I lost my brother ten years ago mm-hmm so yes I am afraid to lose my daughter yes yes or for her to not have a mother as well yeah why should she not have an enlightened bundle why just mother I think that would be the best for her yeah I'm not gonna tell you how to work so much on freeing from the attachments to because we see how it works also once you allow that those kind of thoughts then they become a kind of scenario that's playing through your mind you know time your children go out you're imagining the worst what if what if and so no rest is gonna come to your heart so that is not an automatic burdening you take on by being a mother your your primary focus must always be to awaken to the truth because by doing that everybody benefits everybody benefits you know even those who don't like you so that would be my husband we have suddenly turned into a talk show and I don't know if he's watching sometimes these things are good you've never here's a here's this thing and you know it can shake you a little bit no we're not gonna talk too much because he's not here to speak for himself so much but from your perspective whatever it is like that so while you're here because that is what is happening while you're here now you in spite of that pulling feeling that is always looking about your daughter and so on you are going to have to learn to just leave it aside for now and trust a little bit you see because leave her in the safe place of the supreme you have to offer that I I did that for two weeks I'm here since two weeks but now I have to take a decision if I can take if I can stay another week that would be my heart yeah wish but at home it's not okay for me to stay another week so I needed your guidance because my heart I feel I want to stay yes but at home it was like an ultimatum then if I stay another week that's it what means I don't know he's going to abandon his daughter somewhere away no not the daughter but also things like my daughter needs me and I have to be there and things like that she needs you to be free but I don't want to get too involved I know that kind of trouble already I get I get caught up in the crossfire and concentrate on your awareness self that's all I don't know how far you have come in your your contemplations in the invitation and so and through the two weeks you have been here now what have you secured in terms of your understanding your experience I know I am the stillness I also feel a lot of love sometimes I feel guilty I see guilt feeling feeling love for other people here I feel this strong love for some beings here and I feel I see guilt about that because I don't know if it's normal it is normal to feel love I don't know okay let's see why that come let's go back to mr. now I just feel I feel love yes that's it no I don't know there's nothing to feel guilty about love is because the love is also stretching to be beyond person and more impersonal no it's much more yes a flow it is connected with the the lightness of being also now you are being set free by your own presence no you're getting but even this feeling of I this I feeling no you must watch and see is it personal or impersonal every day I do that every day and sometimes it's pure and sometimes it still has a mix of personhood and the stillness yes but the awareness that allows that seeing to be seen this is what I am interested in you see if you are established here that all these things you speak about you know your daughter being here two weeks love emerging in you all this is the scene and come and go these things come and go but what but you are very much at the place that does not come and go yes well put your full being an attention and presence here the rest you may watch the the the pool or the magnetism of certain thoughts that relate to the strongest part of your personhood they will come and they will feel like they pull the attention to get more involved and you have to just persist in looking and holding to unchanging place to see them not to push away because if you push them away then you retain an identity of the one who must push away in guard so even if something is no no I can't think like this and mustn't think like that that also is observable yes so don't lock into that identity stay in that immense field of neutrality can we relate to this yes in the stay in the unchanging this is you're at the you are at the very summit of your seeing now if you stay here and of course more subtle thoughts will come appearing to distract your attention to bring you back into the state of personhood yes you can see that yes yes and so sometimes it will feel like sometimes I am here sometimes I am there and this I that is that is trafficking between hereness and their nests is also observable yes this is the power of pure awareness doesn't matter how tricky are cunning the mind might play it's like it will always be seen you see it will always be seen or seeable but the moment you identify you lose your your distance and it is as though you get caught up again in the traffic and you'll be saying please help me to get back to the place which is still just an idea speaking but an idea with identity and passion and it will feel more cloudy how to do this whereas as you get more established in your neutrality in the emptiness you see you see everything doesn't matter even a tsunami of thoughts and feelings can happen in the being and the mind and you see that it's it's it it cannot touch this and so it's not that you're trying to escape from feelings you're looking from the truest place and you see that all things at some point even the entire world like an illusion including the sense of yourself living it we must be strong enough to hear the full truth without wanting to you know chop and change it to to make it sound appealing to your sense of person you see hmm one second let me see now as I'm speaking I'm looking miss if I can find something relating to this maybe this one I take a chance yeah just few lines it's for you and for you or all of us us I am Shiva I'm gonna read a little bit from this mr. Parker Gita I am fulfilled listen to this as though you are speaking it I am fulfilled the elements of nature the body and the senses what are they to me or my mind what is emptiness or despair what are holy books or knowledge of the self or the mind even when it is free of the senses or happiness or freedom from desire I am always one without to knowledge or ignorant freedom or bondage what are they what is I or mine or this or the true form of the true self I am always one I am always one what what do I care for even freedom in life or in death or for my present , I am always without even I is this to be andhe see if you offer it to the mind I don't understand this I don't get that speaking or what this dish now simply hear it in the in the immensity of being just here don't judge this is where I want you to be listening from all that come and go you are aware of them don't try to even adjust them don't put too much attention on trying to correct how things appear better than that is to remain consciously aware conscious of consciousness aware of awareness it might sound irresponsible to the identified mind oh you're dropping out your abs or you're running away from your all of this canister you stay even that is also seen what are you doing are you avoiding life no you are affirming truth and like this somehow all these scratchy ideas and thoughts and stuff they just subside into peace peace is their origin they come out of the self easy but while we have identity it's as though we are scratching at something you know and the mind will come it will feel like something wants to engage with it like the the pool - if you ever had athlete's foot as something wants to eat but if you do it if you are scratching at least what is the greatest pleasure until you stop and then your pain pure nonsense will come if you and keep engaging every time the mind puts this end up your you go there you stay learn to just keep remaining as the self it's not that you're closing your eyes and stopping the senses and hide no not like that in your sober observing just stay here amazingly and maybe unexpectedly you find that something still moves with life but in a higher way automatically spontaneously you are addressing things with a greater level of appropriateness without even planning you are more moving one with life things that seem like there's no way out of this trouble suddenly a door opens unexpectedly and things are flowing you did not even survive you went through in abundance even learned is trust this also I am not binding your hands and legs and just setting your heart free yes you are yes like this so the mind will come don't trust it so much don't go to it so much don't think of what I should do wanna know just keep checking in here and at a certain point you will find the effort to stay as the self also falls away there is only this and everything that appears my good or bad sweet or sour is appearing in this but the one who would feel attacked by certain things is no more even if it is there it doesn't command the same attention that it would do when you are still identified with personality you have transcended the personal and all of its its play gently by and by you find your balance and harmony a great trust happen peace is there and natural confidence is there fear subside all these things gradually gradually you come some people tell me you know yes yes I'm aware of the expanse is there but I don't feel loved I don't feel the love yet so don't worry about that it's not a shopping list that you have to tick off you know yes you know the the piece is there you know the space is there but the love no no not this one the magic ecology oh no no that doesn't come here you know just be here don't think about what is missing and you know what has come what has gone just like this this actually may seem to be very naive and over simplistic but it's fruit is incomparable this is the gem of self-knowledge I feel it stronger in your presence when I'm with you I feel it stronger yes then when I go home take me home I would take you home yeah just as secretly just remember what it is it's not a physical presence so much but what happens that you are more strongly reminded and more than reminded established in your natural state you see then maybe a mind might come and say haha now you have to go you are going to be on your own and stuff and you have to get used to these thoughts and transcend their influence by just remaining in the neutrality wherever you go this the self is equally there you see it's not the self was born in India and it radiates to the rest of the world and if you live way way in the Antarctic you will not get so much I live in India so I live here or that put a different light okay okay yeah but I understand yes yes is the same I feel it would be good if you somehow stand in the confirmation of that because is the self waiting to be reached no where is it it's here yeah and you I'm just here in a different place of hereness than the self no it's beyond time and space yeah as a feeling or as a reality no it's not a feeling it's without form yeah yeah yeah when mine comes up does it move out of the way to let mine go on the stage no no but I see this false identity you see the false identity I see the false identity which it's not even existing just trying to grab the thoughts it's like a play really are you compelled to be giving attention to the false identity can you turn away from it yes I can however when it's about my daughter is very challenging yes for for this false identity yes would your daughter be better off with the false identity or without the far side without the false identity definitely what could you know I am if the false identity has its own Authority does it say listen I am saying here no no where does it derive its its life and potency from I think it's from the mind it's from the habit of attention from the attention it keeps receiving out of maybe a habit or you know like this but when you look now from a fresh place where you are not identified with any particular background just pure looking hmm and then there's no emotional content in this kind of looking it's just very neutral very sober you see this kind of looking throws back into the source you become more aware of the place from where you're looking and rather than being pulled into the traffic of what is appearing to the mind yes so simultaneously you can see what's appearing in the mind but the greater power lies in the source of the seeing so true yes yes you hundred dots confirm that you see it is growing stronger and stronger inside you you see don't be afraid that you're becoming less caring no but you are caring without fear and caring in a very positive way in a way that is healthy but you're not even attached so much to the outcome even of that you see leave it to God leave it to permit man you are your very good actions are already satisfying within you and you trust the results will show themselves one more this relationship you will feel the fruits of your higher functioning thank you so much that's good I love you love you too thank you thank you thank you who is it who really needs to come but not just personal you dare my dad yes you comes easy I'm not saying the rest of your not talk a bit just I can't true as the five people at the same time okay hello like you were saying yesterday we we should not we should change not exchange and when you know I said you should not worry too much about changing because something is being exchanged freedom we think freedom is not for the person the freedom is from the person you understand that what I mean as long as the person is there it will be a little bit seemed like it's a trying for freedom but another way it's avoiding it at the same time so with the identity it will always be creating some avoidance some seeming attraction some he'll there's always this yes and no maybe this is playing so when the person itself is being observed rather than embraced as the starting place of the seeing when the person itself is seen a space is there and an awareness of what it is that is perceiving so I call it an exchange of identity in fact you don't become a new identity the self is not an identity and it is not an entity also so so what is that space are consciousness like I feel my mind plays with it so my mind shift from this old to the new and I feel this is the new self or this is self and then I get into that trap of the mind the mind doesn't play with it the mind plays in it the mind cannot play with awareness it reminds me one time one man he said to me you know I I'm so frustrated you know why is God keep playing around with me why he's got playing with me you know God is not playing with you God is playing as you then he goes huh something changed a simple way of looking mind is appearing now that you know yet the mind itself is discussing awareness yes you know like if you imagine like I say a book and all these characters all these varied characters and you imagine that the characters in the book are arranging a little demonstration about how the next chapter should be written and they're going to approach the author and say we don't agree with your ideas you see so whatever mind is doing it's only a play inside the unchanging self in which it is being perceived also can you take that view can you see like that my doubt is what I see is not just the part of my mind or is beyond mind how to differentiate this so your doubt is that that what you see is what it's not my mind it's really me you being what I don't I don't have any experience but what you call space or awareness so this awareness and space is coming from my mind only know how to differentiate coming from your mind so the mind has created the awareness itself so therefore there can never be awareness without mind I think it's the other way around the awareness can be by itself but the the the mind cannot be without awareness consider the example of wind and space if there is wind also you cannot see the wind you can see only its effect now now the wind needs space in order to blow under travel you see so if the wind is there automatically space must be there but space can be dare without the wind with wind or without wind but the wind cannot be there without space the mind is like the wind the awareness is like the space so what is what I have experience of wind is because of the space I don't have any experience of this space so whatever I know about space based on my belief based on the definitions I read in the books yeah so how to experience that space you know I gave an example what happened also with myself so it's very intimate story because when I finally went in front of my own master I had sat with him for quite a long time and for a while I didn't really want I was educating to go and see my new I had to meet him at one point and benefiting from everybody's question you know but I didn't go out but the day that I wrote to him and went to see him he read my letter and he said you know you want to you want to find God you want to dare to be God and you who find God and that cannot work you see if you are going to find God or truth you must disappear you see but but if I disappear how am I going to find God this is my end you see if I disappear how am I going to know I find God I won't be there you see so this is the kind of logic of the personal identity so those words master tells us some things that your mind cannot solve the person cannot do I said well how do i vanish you tell me vanish vanish abracadabra Paul nothing happened no no what of what a useless advice but it was not an advice that my mind could carry out that words those words the Grace and the power of them started to twist and turn inside my being I was experiencing them and actually interpreting them like you know this fire and I just want to get away from these people over some point it just detonated from madness and what happened I could not say what I'm going to say before but I banished something vanished listen something vanished and in that instant the vanishing the absence of the person I believed I am was not there the reference from my private self was not there but something was there to notice that this one is not there this is the one you must find this one appears to be hidden by they are the one who have been thinking I am in that instant when somehow it was not there and somehow I found looking in my hands I see but there's no there's no one here I would not have been able to say that I don't know that sounds like madness how can you know somebody the person that the body is there and someone is saying I can't find myself or so in the story of Shri Ramakrishna one of his one of his devotees who later became known as Swami Vivekananda as a young boy I think his name was Narayan or something like that at one point he was or he had more of an advising temperament for non-duality the master was always talking about Kali and mangas so there was a little bit it'll tension but one day I think one of the other disciples recalled or something ran up to the Masters room and says master master you know it was a bit agitated he said najran or Vivekananda is going crazy because he can't find himself he's running around my everybody thing but I can see you but within himself he that's not him this is not me my myself knowing the idea I have of myself where is it where is it where looking around you see so they would or the disciple went up to the master and said Naren is is going crazy he can't find himself please must have come the master said leave him alone like this is caused enough trouble that have run around for a bit it will soon be okay no so this is the same thing almost everybody has we have lived with a certain idea about herself constantly upgrading and the things are a self-image of ourselves which I call the idea we have of who we are and that somehow is masking the reality of what is it seems to do that that's why I use the term the mask of God and so the mask is asking but how can I meet my true face the shadow if I put my hand and is a shadow of the hand no matter what I do I cannot turn the shadow into my hand so this thing you are saying is similar you see you're saying but I am how can I you know I'm aware of the space but how can I be the space I'm aware of space may be the space you're aware of is as the phenomenal space the sense of spaciousness there's a sense of space that the seeker even though it is phenomenal and still carries some personal characteristics the the sattvic aspect of the seeker is already sensing that there is there is something really immense but how can i how can I be I can't be that because I am seen that space but the one who is showing is not saying it's not that space the space you are talking about is also housed inside the space of the self so space using the word space as a synonym for the self is not quite accurate in fact no word can convey what this is it is beyond all concepts then imagination tries to imagine beyond let's Google and Google is gonna tell you something it's gonna give you an image of nothing or something method so it's the same so now what to do now you say but I how can I be the space I I'm only aware of senses and mind and everything tangible the everything on this side of the eyes I can see the play of the elemental world I can see this behind the eyes is like a realm of feelings and thoughts identity emotion that also somehow I can see where is the location of that which can see outside and inside simultaneously where is it outside or inside it is aware of outside and inside also it's unaffected by the sense of outside and inside who is receiving this question is it the mind the mind is thinking where I don't have a reference for beyond outside and inside seems to capture everything really yummy so what can perceive this so it will not be a mental answer it has to be an experiential answer or a revelations of some sort but to who who will receive it I said I'm searching for truth Master save vanish but then something happened and then the truth whatever you may say which could not be imagined before is seen as the most obvious but is not seen as in one thing seeing another the very seeing is seen how to solve this will is nobody there solving anything it is justice it is even just this now in you or self but the mind is saying yeah but you know but how can I change from here says not change it's not change maybe change of perspective will happen you see but it's not the outcome of a doing and understanding and understanding is taking place so refresh me again know what you want to know now let's start from now now with your thoughts I I tried to see that self yes and I went to that space but what I can see with within few seconds or minutes this is captured with my mind you know yes I mind pound yes yes okay stop now when listen to my words I went to that space so this I went to the space is still your person your person is trying to see now I go to the best thing as as much as I can come near to what I think Mooji speaking I go to the space that is as close a synonym in concepts that I can come to what you're speaking but the I who is going to that place to to the space is also an image perceived in something yes what is that something and where is it something is the one I felt I am the one you feel you are and the one who feels I am this are both perceived without effort they are appear and they disappear they appear in this moment with passion and feeling and doubt and everything all of that is registering somehow momentarily in some kind of knowingness I'm not getting you I am NOT getting it is also if see the sense I am NOT getting I'm not getting it is also perceived without ever I could say it's not getting into my mind as to all this is perceived the or disappear you're not going to get away today [Music] all this is perceived you know but still something is holding into the standing place of the person which has been your singular reference place all your life you're looking from the perspective of person I you know but I don't see it now I've gone look I've gone to space now I'm looking at space and I can see the space but I but I some but even this is also seen without effort by nobody it is seen you yourself admit the fact is already there and now we are searching for proof but the fact is the proof but we want to experience our Tiffany but and now I agree or experience but if you say yes well what you I got it is also perceived what are we speaking about can the mind catch it you see have you ever tried somebody told you when you close the fridge door and your coat does the light go off when you close you don't let go off when you open it was a light on you cannot know automatic you are I know can I see yourself gotcha gotcha ha ha and that even if it happens in a billionth of a second is still also seen by that which is not moving what is the problem look and see what is the problem if they if you want to call problem who are challenged the strong attachment to the perspective and the belief in personhood that the person must see something and get it the finder the seeker is looking to catch what it is searching for and then to say I got it so who can get the infinite one can the finite capture the infinite can the relative conquer the absolute what is absolute from the relative standpoint absolute is an abstraction it's a myth maybe an idea how can we know it really exists how can we really know if the absolute exists maybe it's just an idea from the mind did you study something what did you study I'm used to red Porsche uh-huh and other books related to spirituality and self-searching okay if I say now I feel I have trust in you you can do if I say I could do this and everything that you have learnt including the idea you have of yourself just leave it we don't want it right now right now because your aspiration is to discover that who can discover the self we are going to see so if in an instant you can cut all this you know it's not going to all the books you've read has helped up to a point to prepare the mind for the darshan of its own source now we don't need we are going to the tenth step you take each one is important on the way up but now you are the ninth or the tenth now the steps are not necessary now in the brought you to where you are now so now leave all the steps leave all the learning all the understanding you've collected there in you their their essence is in you now you leave everything everything altogether like is everything and even the idea of next so you're not waiting for what's going to happen so no next just leave everything now so only what is which is not a construct it is not a belief it is not a learning all that we say leave aside now everything including the idea you may have of yourself what you have done how much meditation what books your what temples what pilgrimages what introspect leave everything everything everything everything why am I asking to do that leave everything because if we leave everything what remain do we need to go to thoughts no leave thought look some power in you will know what remain if everything all my ideas all my learning all my practices has brought me to this point now everything is gone everything is gone including the idea I have of myself what is here now don't imagine imagination also you live don't we don't visualize don't create leave everything so there's nothing to boast about now do it something remains that cannot be removed it cannot go because it never came it must be just what is here what remain is it something that you can see as an object or something no no is it personal anything there no is it anything that needs believing in is it knowledgeable or ignorant no I don't know it's a feeling or what it is exactly but it's the most closest word I can use this expansion expansion expansion expansion that even expansion or expansiveness is also perceived it's okay don't get rid of that a sense of expansiveness is perceived yeah but by what is it perceived in what is it perceived don't follow expansion let it happen because just to see it's not a trick of the mind don't follow expansion you're noticing that don't get any further involved don't look don't create don't imagine what is here by itself which you did not create you did not put what is here expansion is a movement moving in what expanding in what every it's a feeling of being just being even not just it's big it's big yes the sense of being is also perceived don't judge just you notice even a sense if something is there it's looking it's looking and it hopes to find something but whatever it finds becomes something and even the one searching is also perceived even the act of seeking is also perceived that in which the act or the functioning of perception is itself perceived don't create what is here anything tangible an equality and that which is aware of this is where that which is aware of even the subtlest of the subtle is itself where apart from it could you say you cannot say anything now yes you who cannot say anything is what what I'm experiencing if I try to put in words it vanish yes I being what to would try to put it into words is that not also perceived when you ask me I I need to bring my mind to answer otherwise when I ask not when I ask you a response take place hmm a seeking is activated and the very seeking being activated is also perceived who can deny what is here that cannot be caught cannot be owned it is not a religion it's not a philosophy it is not a belief system is it an entity of some sort we are searching for now and the one who is searching also is what the very seeking or if there's a one behind the seeking seeking so the seeking and the seeker are also seen perceived what is here know what is it is it something doing something is that itself seeking the seeker is seeking it but what the seeker is seeking is that seeking is that seeking the seeker now there's a silence the silence is also perceived can that be caught can it be photographed we are trained and cultured to the mind to find something at the end of our research we must have some data we must have something we can investigate and we can say yeah this is constant this is a fact and this apply here who can catch it when the one trying to catch it is already perceived in it and is irrelevant also even the trying is perceived even the intention with closed arms seeking is perceived we may say what what to say now anything that come from the mind is perceived what remain even the idea of yourself searching is perceived so what is my word what remain what is here that cannot be removed and cannot be brought what is it this year it is not other it is the only one who is not other everything is other but it is not other the first principle of knowing even of phenomenal knowledge must be the I principle that says I know and I am this I itself is perceived can you confirm can you confirm yes therefore the confirmation must be happening we're out there we're aware is the confirmation happening can it be answered who will receive the answer can it be affected by that speak speak where is it where is it not where is it can you bind where is it now you paralyzed what has happened if you are paralyzed also this is also perceived you are at the you are at the pinnacle of seeing now what is here on the very top of the mountain after a lot of climbing climbing climbing the very top the top on top of the top is what if she was there he's also seen I would really like no way these people are leaving even to go to atta do it in call of nature this is call of God you I don't want to see anything you being what it what is feely you put pointed me then I have to use this I you know I don't want to say when did you become that I because of my question did you become an eye or you've always been there as an eye or both are seen it's likely human consciousness is like a series of number on a combination lock and one by one in satsang we are listening [Music] last one last one [Music] but that is also seen can it be like that the last thing to twist is also seen there is nothing to happen to that you take up a position that you are in a position trying to see that but you are that watching the idea of yourself trying to see it I'm helping you to much the most profound concept is that I I there cannot be you before I because you are in relation to I the first phone must be I I am we all say I am then why do you regard God as you you alone are everything you why you when your very eyes is shaped in front of that which is prior to I must we leave it here yes No he's going even that you see this is the seeming riddle the mystery after human experience in its search for its own source and look what is happening because till the eye wants to have an a result a result the eye that is the familiar I one star a result III just want to catch it over G help me to catch it so you can catch that which is the infinite one in which you yourself cannot exist outside of the infinite so please speak correctly what is it yet the insistence the persistence the faith the what you may call loyalty to the sense of I as a private entity it's like I say a fingernail can hide the Sun what is this fingernail I son is there fingers here I am here where is the self is it on the other side of the tunnel when I say self what comes to you what does it arouse in you yeah weakness is that is that is what what is but for the human mind even what is he's like an obstruction we need evidence we need proof put it under the microscope which they will look we need proof this is mind it once proof and proof is proof in the tangibility measurable it must have quality in order to be perceived if it doesn't have quality it's relevant cannot be proved so how can you prove well thankfully you don't have to prove this to anybody you must become the proof that this is embodied but adore December didn't matter but that this is you only can confirm no need to go to scientists you can't confirm maybe just through conditioning we are accustomed to like we've come to the edge we need something the proof is missing we have done everything will come finally and the final analysis is something tangible measurable perceivable possess able what so until you discover this yourself hmm we continue in ignorance of our fundamental nature you cannot know it and be apart from it here knowing and being are one and there's no one being it it gives even the sense of beingness it's been do you wish it was something easier something that we can catch because you believe more in a fact about yourself as a person than the fact of yourself as awareness in which the person appears is this a good song [Applause] raise your club bar me it's not [Laughter] you're still there huh no matter what I'm holding on in there nothing can remove we have had this also yesterday I met with some of the Sangha and it was meant to be for 45 minutes three how many hours four hours on their one amma are you here a month today she told me I have to get it I have no time where you say she said I have no time where are you yes she is she said she has not I have no time I must get it today come four hours finally she said I just can't this this me is still there you can relate yeah discipline after everything this mean it's just still there except what so what does it matter this me is only a sense a sensation watched isn't it in that which is not a sensation so this is great because this is something that we must face otherwise all our practices all our rituals or our reading or meditation is stopping short because we are preserving this I identity which is not going to cooperate with anything that threatens its existence it's true it even wants to conquer the infinite I want to find my true self but I want to be there to receive it and I want to be photographed I wonder if there is some fear and we hinted at this some while ago that perhaps there is some fear that this is my last everything all all the fingers have let go except one if I let go this one thing I can't let go because we don't know what's going to happen and maybe it's all a trick and I will lose myself and gain nothing at all maybe there is some fear and if there is fear you may find you do everything that is religiously and spiritually asked and listed you go to all the step but at the very at the very gate of Nirvana hmm you'll find somebody a real estate person is selling apart apartments outside the gate of Nirvana at a good price all this imagined all this is dream all this is gym so I pull the fear card up to say is there fear that somehow I need proof first and then I'll take it so the fear card and the faith card are both pulled I don't know because in a sense I'm sensing that there's nothing and there is something comforting about being something I have my privacy I have my apartment if I'm everything I'm gonna be spread too thin I don't know maybe this but maybe not that what is it sir this I want to sit back is that I that want to sit back what you are is it a reliable one because we understand that it was duo is getting a bit hot here I want to sit back could you not take somebody else now I've been here I've been here long enough I don't want to take somebody else's pay is there apologetic I know why am i staying with you because I know what you may discover and love to see you go through but something somebody else is in there also vying for your attention and he wants to sit down was he the one who put the hand up was he the one who put the hand up in the first place and is now retracting my I went to sit down I'm happy you're honest enough to say something want to sit down we know this one we all live with him he is the same guy living in everybody's house we know him very well he lives in every country and in everybody now he wants to sit down he could have been the one who want to stand up a so what do you stand to lose you being what what is losing or gaining for you who are you this is perhaps the most important discussion taking place on the planet right now but it's just my view ah you want to come there are you going to let him [Music] you relieved her you know boosted he's coming [Music] okay relief I want to admit that all he is saying that was the same thing what I want to say I wanted to say yes the same questions the same efforts I was doing since last so many years I am returning your satsang for four or five years but there was always a not it was not open in any section I was trying my best I was bitter also also and with so many other gurus also but this one did not was not open this was not open not all the time here and last week when Shri Anant Adi was here I met him at his room and he told me he asked me so many questions did meditation with me and he told me now you enjoy there is no need to be sincere in your satsang and you enjoy the rest of the season but I was not satisfied but today when he came with all these questions I found that that but whatever serpent searching for it was already it was but I cannot explain it yeah yes of you he has come to the last step yeah I love you of you of you of you because the last step yeah yeah that's announcing I want to say what names is I was doing how are not trying to look at it yes it was never possible yeah I can say but I want to say it was it yeah how can I see yes couldn't I couldn't say that I can never say no one can see it yes right because all the first define to see yes why you can nobody can see it because it has Vesta first it was rest because it is it [Applause] my heart is jumping my heart is jumping I can hear it I want to touch your feet now because I do not want to talk with you just to show that events are waste yes one cannot can cannot find it yes it is if it is itself fun to come power then it otherwise cannot cannot cannot oneself is it one true self is it there is no you seeing it you cannot see it even the you even the you are trying to see it is seen in it one there is only it I don't miss don't want to waste your time please just tell us where is my feet don't do with this me okay come and give me a hug good [Applause] wonderful wonderful wonderful for this reason I come [Applause] [Music] well so many years I wanted to come down and talk with you but I couldn't I didn't there but thank you my brother you brought me here [Laughter] [Music] you see you will not leave me how can i you can [Music] I don't wish don't want to raise children it is enough yes that was the best use of time you have got the best use of time oh you can waste my time I have no time to waste thank you okay okay very good okay you are happy to go back now I'm happy happy just happy just happy that's good about what that you helped to deliver papa [Applause] because he came here he came here to be born but the end up being midlife [Applause] what fun real [Music] [Music] so now before you go back what happens I this is not that I yeah will not will not go back yes let's say will not or cannot is there maybe I'm doubting it can but it's there for now I can only accept it's there for now if this now is timeless but if this now is for the moment it will not be if you say I will not go back there I will not go back and then you have taken on a task you will have to be there to make sure I don't go back but if you realize there is no one to go back or even to stay you're free who sees this yes do you follow yes yes maybe right now there's a disassociation from that something is seen and this is very good but don't leave this one to keep an identity of the one who left that one you follow or not yeah because very subtle is identity you see I leave this one or that don't want this one anymore I will not go back to him but this I has to stay somewhere and that staying will become an effort what is that which is not an effort it just is there's no distance it's not separate it's not apart it cannot be reached it cannot be owned it cannot even be lost it alone is everything else is dream everything else is passing except this the eye feeling even in its loudest even in its most pronounced manifestation if it as a content as a person as someone as an entity is also traffic also watched effortlessly without eyes it is seen without eyes it is perceived only and of no real consequence it is not the outcome of determination only determination as a power determination may say doesn't matter what comes I will stay I will continue and that may have a power but determination cannot be determined into the self because there is some entity behind who is the determiner and that is also perceivable naturally naturally it is there what is hiding this you may call that the the essence of Maya something is being looked for because when we embrace the idea of a someone as an entity it is a thing and it is searching for other things even things which are not made out of the elements may be things as an idea even it becomes a thing a thought becomes a thing also it is feeding on things but the self is not a thing the world of thing fulness includes the sense of person although the person is seemingly a mixture of personal identity and beingness the identity with the name and the form is leading more and more towards the sense of personhood the sense of beingness is going more towards the self you may say in the play don't want to speak too much know all this time you're standing there something has not moved if 1,000 people wake up to the self the self has not grown bigger it is beyond quality beyond size it alone is imperishable unborn uncreated indivisible and it is not a thing nor are you we have a thing like being the body and the body mind the sense of identity gives us the sense of objective existence this is a time body but the timeless is existing and experiencing through it when it takes on identity with the body and believes it becomes a person and the person is always pursuing the personal at best true pain and difficulties in the world and the realm of the person the sattva of the person aspires for the impersonal all of you have come to that point already and now only what this final seeing is that sometimes whatever you think you have grown whatever you think you have developed whatever you think you have accomplished we want to take it forward but it all stops here for the infinite does not need it it may be still beautiful to continue beautifying the manifestation for a while and this is fine this is fine but for the ultimate seeing this final one even in its most sattvic expression must also be seen as phenomenal awesome and it is it's not that there's some big mountain to climb to see this I cannot say what it is some twists of seeing and what happens it is admitted you confess yes I have that the one who confesses is not a person and you know something maybe it's the last word spoken with the mixture of person or presence and the absolute and then no more I am I am dance so if it is worth anything my blessing and prayer is that each and every one in whose heart genuinely is beating this urge for ultimate seeing that each one comes to that ultimate understanding that final seeing and his timelessly happy and free so much so that your presence shines with the light of real knowledge godly presents wisdom and that whoever meets you on the road of life who carry within them some urge all so that they will be so so touched by encountering the truth in you the peace the joy the love the openness the compassion the silence that they be so they be so impacted by that that they are compelled to search within themselves to find that which they perceive in you and also win freedom may that search for freedom be contagious again in the human Kingdom that which brings lasting and everlasting happiness and peace and joy but be reminded that their forces functioning inside our body-mind system inside our being that will play to oppose your liberation in the beginning only later at the mature stage will you be able to use the energies coming from there to convert them into auspicious spiritual vitamins for awakening but in the beginning it can feel like oh it's too much it's too much as to my mind is attacking in order so if this path is not for me and you'll give up at least for a time but I would see and sense from the the atmosphere and from the energy field that is in this room that there are many beings are here mature ready ready ready ready for that final scene grace virtue Oh God virtually to complete your seeing I don't see any natural impediment apart from transcending this final attachment the first attachment I am this person first attachment maybe is to the eye I am this person brought such diverse experiencing painful and beautiful and it will still continue even the sense I am is still there and we will still taste the things but now we will not be complaining because you are skill the self to live the life of the manifestation and still you are beyond it as pure awareness it's not that we are dismissing cynically our life is not know life is beautiful it can be beautiful when your eyes are clean and the mind is clean it is ugly when the ego is still vile and is playing as the landlord in this house but this house is the house of countries and we are awakening to our original nature that's all it is this is this is the possibility of satsang and I have no doubt I would not have come not just by my own will but I would not have been allowed to come if they were not the space and the hearts open to receive the paintings to take flight into the infinite but it is not for me to keep a score after this attitude if I say 100 people here will wake up will you be one of them [Music] thank you love you love you love you all this is love without a love story this is the love okay thank you good to be generally have thank you thank you [Music] leave it stay be high like flowing water free of sadness yesterday is gone it's tail is tall [Music] today new seeds are growing the time has come to turn your heart into temple of fire your presence is cold here Amanda to reveal its splendor bird in the fire [Music] leave it stay behind like flowing water free of sadness yesterday is gone it's tail is tall [Music] today new seeds are growing the time has come to turn your heart into temple the fire your presence is called hidden and the don't move you expander burden the fire of Lao [Music] the time has come to turn your heart into temple the fire your presence is cold hidden and I to reveal its splendor burn in the fire burn in this fire of love burn in the fire of love burn in this fire of love [Music] 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